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Stranger (S1) | Full K-drama Review / Ep. 68 · Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews

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  I'm Jessica and this is K BA K Rambles where a couple of
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  friends review Korean dramas and we're back with another K drama
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  and I'm back with my good friend Caitlin from No Sleep for Dramas
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  podcast. And how are you, Caitlin?
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  Hello. I'm good, I'm good.
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  How are you Good We've. Been chatting for about 40
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  minutes before we started recording so we we are all
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  warmed up here. Caitlin, you haven't been on
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  Like Just You without Drama trio since Flower of Evil.
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  Yep. It has been a really long time
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  since I've had you on. And this is the funniest thing.
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  But this episode is on Stranger, which is something that we
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  discussed on one of the drama trio episodes.
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  And I was like, would you be willing to come on?
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  I've never seen it. Would you be willing to come on?
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  And you were like, hell yeah, like absolutely.
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  I rewatch it, like the whole bit.
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  And I was like, OK, cool. I initially I had such high like
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  aspirations of watching both seasons of Stranger and
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  reviewing both seasons on this episode, Girl, that didn't
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  happen. That didn't happen.
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  We're just going to do season one.
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  We're just we're just going to review season one because your
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  girl got busy. I watched 10 episodes of another
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  show and then that recording got pushed back.
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  So that ate into my time and then just life happened.
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  So it just didn't happen. I got 30 minutes into episode
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  one of season 2. We're just gonna we're just
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  going to review Stranger season one.
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  So before we do, this is your first time listening.
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  OK, so this is the My Drama list synopsis for season one.
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  Like I said, we are only going to cover season one of Stranger.
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  There are two seasons out so far.
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  Don't worry, I'm making her watch season two.
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  Yeah, because we're going to get, we're going to get there.
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  I told her I was like, we have to circle back and do Season 2.
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  I really still want to watch Season 2, so maybe for spooky
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  season we'll circle back and do Season 2 of Stranger because I'm
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  not done with it. I really do want to finish it.
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  I've had so apparently I'm doing the Lord's work because
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  apparently I've had so many people sense that drama trio
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  episode where I like just I can't remember what it was.
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  Yeah, me neither it. Was like, it was like it was, it
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  was like a recommendation thing. It was like one of the like we
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  did. It was like bring 10 dramas or
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  something. Was it the genre to talk about
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  them? I think maybe, yeah, yeah, it
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  probably is a drunk. OK, Yeah.
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  I've had so many people DM me and be like, I'm watching
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  Stranger, like I just finished season one, how could they do
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  this? Oh my God, I've had like four
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  people message me since that episode and I'm like, thank you.
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  Thank you for actually watching the show.
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  I Yeah. So I'm one of these people
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  because I was so intrigued with your assessment of it and your
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  synopsis of it. You really sold it on that drama
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  tree episode And I was I literally you can hear it like
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  it's live on the show that we recorded.
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  I was like, if we if I do it like for tip Hock, would you
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  come on? And you were like, tell me when
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  like name the date, right. So this is it.
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  Like, we're here finally. So I'll just go ahead and read
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  the synopsis. We'll go through some behind the
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  scenes people, and then we'll just talk about the show.
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  I have to be up front. I did not take a single freaking
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  note on this show. I was just, like, in it, OK?
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  I was, like, immersed. All right, So here's a synopsis.
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  Hung Shimok underwent brain surgery as a child to curb his
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  violent temper, which left him devoid of emotions.
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  Huang becomes a prosecutor known for his piercing intelligence or
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  intellect? That's what I wanted to say,
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  Intellect and logic. But he is ostracized because he
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  lacks empathy and social skills. He is also one of only a handful
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  of upright prosecutors who have refused to take bribes.
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  One day, he encounters a stabbing victim while
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  investigating corruption. He meets Lieutenant Hanyu Jin at
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  the crime scene. They join force forces to root
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  out corruption at the prosecutor's office and solve a
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  serial murder case. Serial murder case.
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  OK, not sure about that bit. All right, this it works.
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  Out it's it's literally it's a basically serial murder case.
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  Is like they have more than three murders.
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  That's a serial murder case, OK. So this aired from June to July
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  2017. It is 16 episodes long and it's
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  directed by Ankil Hope. He really hasn't done anything
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  much at all, just things like the glory, The glory part one
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  and two happiness record of youth watcher memories of the
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  Alhambra rooftop prints, which I've highly recommend.
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  Rooftop prints. I, I don't know why, I just love
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  that show and it is written by Isuyon, who was inspired by the
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  Korean saying we cannot rule those who want nothing to create
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  the character of Shemalk, which I thought was interesting.
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  I'm not sure exactly what that means.
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  You can muse about that if you if you like Caitlin, but I think
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  there might be something lost in translation.
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  I truly do. She's had a pretty good run
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  because she's done things like Life from 2018, which is a
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  medical drama with Ido Mook and a ton of cast members from
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  Stranger, including the male lead.
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  She also wrote Stranger 2, the sequel, in 2020.
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  And then she's been partnering with Disney lately because she's
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  done Grid, a Disney Plus show from 2022 with Sulkung Jun from
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  Are You Human Too? And I thought when I saw him, I
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  was like, Oh my God. And then Blood Free, she wrote
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  Blood Free, which is currently airing on Disney Plus with
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  Jujuyun and Han Yoju. Yeah, which is so good if you
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  need a recommendation. So you're watching it?
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  Yeah, yeah, I'm liking it a lot. All right, but so this show
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  Stranger stars toe so MU he plays Huang Shimok.
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  He's been in about 18 movies and a few TV shows like divorce
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  attorney Shin. He is the divorce attorney Shin.
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  He's also been in Sisyphus, The Myth, Stranger 2, The sequel,
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  Life. Like I said before, God's Gift,
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  14 Days and The King's Doctor. This is my first time ever
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  seeing this man. Oh, really?
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  Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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  OK. Have you seen him as a good?
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  Actor Yeah, yeah, I watched this.
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  Sisyphus. I don't recommend it and it's
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  not for the actors. The writing is horrible,
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  obviously. Stranger, Stranger 2 God's gift.
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  I have watched, but I did not watch Life and I have not
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  watched The King's Doctor All. Right.
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  And then his. I like him.
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  He's good. He's like, it's like, I think
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  Stranger is my favorite character he has played really,
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  but I have I have a soft spot for his like character, but he
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  is a very versatile actor. Like he, he, he chooses roles
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  that you would never picture him doing and then he does the role
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  and you're like, oh, OK, I understand why he did this role
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  'cause he's not like in, in my mind, he's not the typical
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  Korean actor. Like he doesn't have some like
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  especially appearance wise. You look at him and you're like,
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  it's an interesting look. Like people don't really, I, I
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  don't, I don't normally see people like talking about him a
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  lot, especially when it comes to like, oh, he's a good looking
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  guy. I think he's a good looking guy,
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  but he doesn't come up in those types of lists.
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  OK, I was about to slide in and be like, he's super handsome.
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  I find him. I know, I know.
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  Yeah, OK. He's very handsome and he.
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  I mean, I don't know, I just. I've never seen those types of
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  lists. I think he's.
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  Very man. In those type of lists, yeah.
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  But I think he's a very versatile actor.
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  He doesn't. He chooses roles that you
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  normally wouldn't think he could do or like, picture him doing.
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  And then he does them and he does them really, really good.
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  So I, I love him as an actor. I wish he would do more.
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  But he, he's a, he's a very much a movie actor.
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  Like he does a lot of movies. Yeah.
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  So then his Co star is Bay Doona.
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  That Bay Doona she plays Hanyo Jin the cop.
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  She is the Watson to his Sherlock in this show and she's
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  been in about 21 ish movies, including a lot that is in our
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  side of the world. You know like rebel moon parts
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  one and two, which are terrible movies.
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  She's she's. Good in them though apparently I
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  haven't seen them. But I haven't.
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  I refuse. So she's also little about me.
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  Umm, she's also been in Broker from 20/22 with IU.
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  She's worked with that director before in umm, something about a
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  doll. I, it's like a blow, uh, air
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  doll I think is the name of the movie that she was in.
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  Anyway, she's worked with that director before, the director of
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  Broker. She's been in Persona also with
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  IUI. Don't know if you've seen
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  Persona. Persona's bizarre.
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  I did. It is bizarre, but I have seen
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  it. OK, me too.
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  It is Netflix, yeah, Tunnel from 2016.
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  I really want to see Tunnel. Really good.
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  It's it's really good. Yeah, Jupiter.
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  It's heartbreaking, but it's good.
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  Oh no, don't tell me Tunnel's heartbreaking.
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  Well, I mean like I I wouldn't. The premise already sounds
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  heartbreaking. Yeah, the yeah, it's like, in
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  terms of like, just because of the premise, it's like a very
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  intense, heartbreaking show, but like.
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  Well, tunnel, Tunnel the movie. Yeah, the movie.
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  From 2016. So for those who don't know what
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  tunnel is about, I read the synopsis and I was like, I
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  definitely need to see, need to see this movie.
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  It is this man who is on his way to his daughter's birthday party
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  to celebrate his daughter's birthday.
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  He's got nobody else in the car with him and he's got his
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  daughter. He's bringing his daughter's
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  birthday cake with him. A tragic tunnel collapse happens
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  while he's driving through the tunnel and when he wakes up from
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  this this collapse, he's stuck inside his car with nothing but
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  2 bottles of water and the cake. Yeah, yeah.
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  And like that's that's the setup.
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  Wife. Yeah.
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  And Baidu no plays his wife or ex-wife.
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  I want to say they were divorced or separated.
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  I don't think they were like happily married, but I could be
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  wrong. I I I haven't watched the movie
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  in a very long time. I really want to say it.
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  So that's 2016 Jupiter Ascending, which is one of the
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  worst movies ever made. Cloud Atlas, one of the
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  strangest movies ever made. That's with Tom Hanks, Hugo
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  Weaving, Halle Berry, big All Star cast, super weird.
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  The host from 2006, that's Bong Joon Ho.
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  Like amazing movie, amazing monster movie.
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  Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance from 2002.
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  Bei Duna almost doesn't even look like herself because she's
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  so young. This is like a / 20 years old.
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  2002 This is a Pachanuk movie. It's part of the Vengeance
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  trilogy. I covered it on the Patreon feed
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  last year during Was it last year or the year before?
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  I can't remember because I watched all three movies in the
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  Vengeance trilogy. So that put me in a real Bad Men
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  mental place, but I did it anyway.
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  So that's her movie work and then she's also been in a
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  handful of TV. Not as much TV as she has done
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  movie work, but she's done since 8:00.
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  From 2015 to 2018 she was a recurring character like she was
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  on this show. She was.
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  Fantastic. And Sansa Q was also in that
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  show, which, yeah, that's where I first saw her.
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  I first saw her in Sensei, right.
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  Which they're chemistry. I need them in a Korean drama
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  together. Like their chemistry is so good
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  at that. Show my Atlanta so Sense 8 that
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  was a real big hit for Netflix and that's why she's in so many
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  Netflix movies and so many Netflix shows including Kingdom
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  which was in 2019 and season 2 aired in 2020.
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  Kingdom is one of the best K dramas ever.
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  This was right at the start of when Netflix was investing in K
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  dramas right? And BAE Doona was like a Netflix
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  darling from Sense 8. And Kingdom is a zombie show of
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  epic proportions that is so good.
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  Jijiyun is in it as well. Stranger Two comes along in
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  2020. The Silence C which is also a
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  Netflix sci-fi show. K drama.
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  Not very good, but it's a, you know, out there if you want to
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  watch it was. It was fine.
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  It wasn't like the best ever, but it was decent.
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  Exactly. And then she will be in family
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  plan later this year. I don't know what that's about
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  at all, but I. Want to say it's another like
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  family of superheroes but I could be wrong.
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  Is it really? I I want to say it, it is oh.
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  Do you know that sounds familiar?
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  When they were announcing like the cast and Beiduna was in it.
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  I think it is like a superhero thing.
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  OK so that these two are the main.
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  I've seen, I've seen most of what BAE Doonas does.
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  I love her. I feel like I've seen a lot of
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  her too. I don't think she's a bad
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  actress at all. I think she's amazing.
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  And obviously she started as a model, kind of branched out and
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  made her name doing these movie like for all tours, right?
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  The Pacha Nuk and the Bong Joon Ho movies and the I forgot the
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  name of the director of Broker, but like that director too.
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  These three movies kind of put her on the map.
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  Right. Yeah.
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  And since then, she's been a staple of Western and Korean
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  media. Yeah, yeah.
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  She was like one of the first, even though I have been watching
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  Korean dramas years before she ever came onto the scene.
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  She was like one of the real first Korean actors that I
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  witnessed in American entertainment.
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  And nowadays you kind of see them pop up, like Kim Ji Hoon is
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  going to join Butterfly, for example.
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  But like back then when Sense 8 was happening, that did not
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  happen. That did not happen especially.
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  Because could we have like Daniel Dae Kim in Lost?
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  Yeah. And The thing is like and that
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  was even like Korean American like the fact they brought up.
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  Korean atrocious. Yeah, like.
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  When he spoke Korean, yeah. The fact that they brought over
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  like in sense 8, it made sense because it did take place in
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  Korea. Like they had to find Korean
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  actors, but like that was unheard of.
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  Usually you'd see like Asian Americans like they could.
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  They sometimes even didn't use the right ethnicity when they
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  were using Asians in American shows.
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  Like, so her being on Sense 8 and so Q is also.
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  And like, that was like my first exposure of, like, Korean actors
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  in an American show or movie. Yeah.
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  And not just in Korean productions.
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  Yeah, so already big cast. I don't want to go into
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  everybody else that's in this show.
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  Maybe Shin Hai San, who plays Unsu.
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  You've seen her before. I I I don't have her filmography
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  in front of me. EQ hyung as well is also in
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  this. I always consider him his loony
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  from prison playbook, that's how.
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  Her son was in like my 18th life for example.
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  Yeah, see you in my 19th. Life 19th.
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  Life. Yeah.
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  See you in my 19th. Thank you for dragging my
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  memories. See you in my 19th Mr. Queen.
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  Mr. Queen shit, 30 but 17, which is I love that show.
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  So those are some shows from her.
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  And yeah, so there's some other people in the show as well, but
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  large, large cast, ensemble cast.
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  But those two, Chosung Wu and Beituna, are it like they are
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  the top billing of their show. This show did very, very well,
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  not just in ratings but also critically.
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  It did amazing. It was making topless on like
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  New York Times, like best list, best shows of 2017.
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  I remember seeing that, like I remember seeing that list and
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  when they, when they put that out, 'cause this is a 2017 show,
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  like it was their pic, The Stranger was a picture on that
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  article. It wasn't even like just like in
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  the article, I was like, and my, because my parents knew that I
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  watched Korean dramas, they like, pointed it out to me and
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  they're like, my dad's like, is this a good show?
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  And I'm like, is this a good show?
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  Are you kidding me? It's a New York Times, of course
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  it's a good show. But like, that was a big deal.
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  That was like the first time I had ever witnessed a Korean
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  drama in like The New York Times Best of 2017 shows.
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  Like nowadays you kind of see that more commonly.
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  Like Kingdom was in it and Extraordinary Attorney Wu was in
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  it a couple years ago whenever that aired.
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  But like, that time was like the first time I had ever seen a
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  Korean drama in that whole article.
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  It was a big deal. So this thing did really well at
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  the Beck Song Awards, the 54th Beck Song Awards, and I am going
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  to read to you all the things that it won and was nominated
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  for. So it won just clean sweep the
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  Teh Song, the grand prize for TV, which is something that is
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  not announced beforehand. They don't announce who they are
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  thinking of nominee. They don't announce the
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  nominees. They don't announce who they are
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  considering for the day song until the night of and you they
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  announce the winner. They're just like this, this
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  person, this team, this TV show, this film won the day song,
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  which is incredible. Then later on they released like
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  who was in consideration and stuff like that, which is crazy.
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  But Tosung Wu, our male lead, won Best Actor cleanly.
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  Just won ISU Yon. ISU Yon, the screenwriter won
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  best screenplay. This is her debut work.
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  This is her first K drama she's ever written.
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  She won the best screenplay at the Beck Song Awards.
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  Incredible. This was not obviously nominated
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  for best drama. It lost to Mother that year.
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  It was on Kilhole. The director was nominated for
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  best director. He lost to Kim Yun Yun Chol for
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  The Lady in Dignity and EQ hyung who is loony from Prison
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  Playbook was nominated for Best New Actor and he lost to Yung
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  Sejong for Temperature of Love. When I saw Temperature of Loving
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  Yung Sejong, I like had a little conniption there.
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  I was like, Oh my God, I fucking love that show and I love Yung
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  Sejong in that show. So I was like, wow, he lost to
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  like a good newcomer, right? I, I, I just felt that it was
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  warranted because this guy was good, but like, not that.
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  I mean, it was he was a male lead in temperature of love and
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  stuff like that. He was just like a side
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  character in strangers. So anyway, I, I was reeling with
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  that reveal anyway, nominated 8 times.
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  Crazy. Yeah, it was every.
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  It was everywhere. 3-4 anyway, nominated a lot of times.
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  I'm not sure if it was eight times, but a lot of time.
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  It was everywhere. Like it it took like it had
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  ratings. Like there's a reason why they
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  made season 2. Like everybody was really
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  surprised when they announced season 2 for this show.
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  I was not. I was like, dude, do you
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  remember how popular this show was?
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  Like it is it was a juggernaut in 2017.
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  Like ratings were double digits all the time.
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  It was obviously nominated a lot got recognition in New York
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  Times like that again, that never happened.
• 22:00
  So like everybody was like, why are they making a season 2?
• 22:03
  They never make season 2. And I'm like, it makes sense for
• 22:06
  stranger. They're hecking they're they're
• 22:08
  making like a spin off now this year.
• 22:11
  So like I totally am. This is going to be one of those
• 22:15
  shows that they're going to bring back every few years.
• 22:17
  Like it's just built that way. I would not be surprised if we
• 22:20
  get a season three. In my opinion, it just it's
• 22:25
  yeah, I was not surprised whatsoever.
• 22:26
  They made a season 2. Everybody else was.
• 22:28
  I was like it makes total sense. Well, they built it I think to
• 22:34
  be a multi season. Yeah, they did.
• 22:38
  Yeah. And even season 2 ends up that
• 22:41
  way where they could easily do a season three.
• 22:43
  Like not even connected to either one of the other seasons.
• 22:47
  Not that Season 2 is not really connected to season one, but
• 22:50
  like they, they built it that way.
• 22:52
  It's kind of like Taxi Driver, like you can kind of just do a
• 22:55
  season, yeah, every three years, every four years, whatever,
• 22:59
  whatever. Yeah, it's great.
• 23:01
  So this was my first time watching Stranger and my
• 23:07
  experience watching Stranger, which let me just prep in case
• 23:11
  you've gone this far and you didn't.
• 23:13
  You can't quite wrap your head around what it is.
• 23:15
  It is a crime thriller, drama. There is no romance.
• 23:19
  We want romance, but there's not.
• 23:21
  We want romance, so. There's no romance.
• 23:22
  OK, That's what this is. So I went into this thinking I
• 23:28
  have pretty good judgement of characters and people, and I can
• 23:36
  figure out who the killer is and who the mastermind is because I
• 23:43
  just have watched a lot of media and can do this or whatever.
• 23:47
  Baby, I didn't know who was go, who was who, what was going on,
• 23:53
  who was the killer, who was the mastermind.
• 23:56
  If things were changing each episode and you could only trust
• 24:00
  two people and that was the two leads, Bei Duna and Shimo, the
• 24:04
  the male lead, I was riveted to the screen.
• 24:11
  I could not tear my eyes away. And it was right around episode
• 24:15
  10 or 11 that I started getting real lost.
• 24:19
  I was like, Oh my God, I don't know what's.
• 24:21
  I literally was like, I have no idea what's going on because
• 24:28
  they were doubling back on themselves.
• 24:30
  And they were people that they had sort of cleared from
• 24:36
  suspicion were back on the table.
• 24:37
  You know what I'm saying? Like it was, it was very
• 24:40
  cyclical and. Right, right.
• 24:44
  If, if that's not your bag, if, if crime thrillers are not your
• 24:48
  bag and rooting out corruption in the police force or the
• 24:54
  prosecution service is not your idea of a good time, I'm sorry,
• 24:57
  don't watch. But this was so exciting to
• 25:01
  watch because I can't, I don't know how to put it, but it was
• 25:05
  very suspenseful. It was very Sherlocky and.
• 25:12
  Right. I had, I had a tremendous sight.
• 25:16
  I have crazy eyes right now. I I do talking about this.
• 25:20
  I was sending, I was sending Caitlin these crazy voice memos
• 25:27
  of like, I just got to this episode and this happened.
• 25:30
  I don't know what's going on. I don't know who to trust.
• 25:33
  I I thought this person was good, but they're not like, I
• 25:36
  need help. Like, I was sending her really
• 25:39
  unhinged messages and all the Caleb would send back would be
• 25:43
  like, yeah, I told you it was crazy.
• 25:46
  Like that's all. There would be no help at all.
• 25:50
  She would just be like, Yep, keep going.
• 25:53
  Because I didn't want to say anything because I'm afraid I
• 25:56
  wouldn't spoil it. I had one guess it was wrong,
• 26:00
  like it was I'm telling you. I was very entertained.
• 26:05
  Yeah, you were super entertained.
• 26:07
  And every time we would talk, you would just be like, Oh my
• 26:09
  God, I would send you these crazy gifts of like, screaming
• 26:13
  like things. And Oh my God, it was such a bit
• 26:17
  of a haunted house thing where it's like you turn a corner and
• 26:21
  it was you didn't know what was there.
• 26:24
  And that is the best kind of plot, the best kind of writing
• 26:30
  that it's not, you're not being taken for a ride in the in a in
• 26:35
  the wrong sense. You're being taken for a ride in
• 26:37
  the best sense. Right, right.
• 26:41
  So I cannot recommend Stranger enough.
• 26:46
  I think it's a master class in telling a story and and putting
• 26:52
  a lot of puzzle pieces in front of you.
• 26:55
  And the audience is still like, I don't know how to put this
• 26:59
  together. Right.
• 27:00
  And that's what I loved about it because again, I watch a ton of
• 27:04
  crime dramas and so if I can predict the ending, I usually
• 27:10
  drop them because I, I, I don't know, my mind works in a way.
• 27:15
  I'm not like boasting or anything.
• 27:16
  There's definitely a lot that I'm unpredictable, like I can't
• 27:19
  predict, but there are somewhere it's like, I totally know where
• 27:21
  this is going. I'm not going to watch it.
• 27:24
  Stranger was one of those where I had no idea what was going on.
• 27:29
  Both seasons, like both seasons. Like I think the other thing
• 27:33
  that helps out this show too is like you have multiple mysteries
• 27:37
  that pop up. So it's not just one crime in in
• 27:41
  stranger. You have murder, you have
• 27:43
  corruption. You have like just sketchy
• 27:47
  people like everything so and then.
• 27:49
  Everything. And what are they hiding like?
• 27:52
  And everything connected by the end.
• 27:55
  But like, you have so much crime and so many threads going on
• 28:00
  there's you can't predict it. And it's just masterfully woven
• 28:04
  together at the end. Yeah, yeah.
• 28:09
  So I don't know how much else to say because it's it.
• 28:13
  We'll get into spoiler territory very quickly.
• 28:16
  Yeah. And I don't got any notes
• 28:19
  either. I just said, I said at the top,
• 28:20
  like I came in raw, like I don't have any notes.
• 28:23
  I didn't take anything down when I was watching this show.
• 28:26
  So I almost feel like we should just give our ratings or maybe
• 28:31
  like no, even like favorite scenes and stuff.
• 28:36
  We'll get into spoilers. It would be spoilers, yeah.
• 28:41
  Maybe is there a character that you really connected with?
• 28:44
  I love Shebuk like he's he's my favorite.
• 28:47
  I always I have a soft spot for like his type of character where
• 28:52
  it's like the quiet type, the calculating type, the like
• 29:02
  observant type, like I couldn't I relate a lot to that type of
• 29:06
  character. So I immediately loved him out
• 29:10
  the get go. And then also just because he
• 29:13
  his character brings a comedy side to the show that like he
• 29:17
  never would have expected just because his brain works
• 29:21
  differently that he doesn't. And I said this in the drama
• 29:25
  trio, like he can't comprehend. Like, for example, we know all
• 29:29
  of Korea has these like, society rules, how you have to be
• 29:33
  respectful to your elders and like respect the rules and
• 29:38
  authority and stuff. His mind can't comprehend that
• 29:41
  Like they, he's like, why the heck are we following this?
• 29:45
  And so he has much, a lot of these scenes in both seasons
• 29:48
  where he's just like, Oh, yeah, I'm supposed to shake your hand
• 29:52
  because you're like my son back or like, yeah, I should answer
• 29:56
  that question because you're my son, BAE.
• 29:58
  But like, why am I answering this question?
• 30:01
  Like it's. And he brings A and he like in
• 30:04
  his own mind. Like he doesn't see it as
• 30:06
  comedy. He's just like, it's a logical
• 30:09
  thinking of his brain. So then BAE Doon is like you
• 30:14
  like you like, she explains it, which is why it's the Sherlock
• 30:18
  Watson relationship. But yeah, I just, I love his
• 30:23
  character. And then I love him and Beijuna,
• 30:25
  like, together. Like, I love their relationship
• 30:28
  so much. But yeah, I absolutely love his
• 30:32
  character in this drama. I do too.
• 30:35
  I love them both. I loved Shimuk so much.
• 30:38
  I thought he was very endearing. Like considering the fact that
• 30:42
  he has very little empathy. He's not smiling, he's not
• 30:47
  laughing, he's not joking around with people.
• 30:49
  There's very little to latch onto.
• 30:53
  I found him incredibly endearing.
• 30:55
  Yeah. And I think that goes to show of
• 30:58
  like chosen Wu's like acting and like how he portrayed the
• 31:04
  character because even when you are playing a character with
• 31:09
  that type of like emotional block, you still latch on to
• 31:15
  something with that. Character, in my opinion, it's
• 31:18
  hard to do, yeah. Like you can see him constantly
• 31:23
  working things out and the gears turning constantly and him
• 31:31
  questioning things and how to. Like the social situations thing
• 31:35
  is very comical at times and then also very tense at times
• 31:39
  because it's suddenly very high in their society.
• 31:43
  It's very high stakes, especially when you're dealing
• 31:46
  with corruption and the person that he's not shaking hands
• 31:49
  with, he's invested, he's investigating and possibly could
• 31:52
  have done something very terrible.
• 31:55
  Right. So then it becomes this whole
• 31:57
  like thing, right? Like it spirals out of control,
• 32:00
  his sort of withholding of respect in in these situations.
• 32:07
  So you're kind of it's in some instances you're like, oh,
• 32:10
  that's funny, like he didn't do this.
• 32:11
  And then others, others you're like, is he making a statement?
• 32:14
  Is he just being, you know, himself or does he he definitely
• 32:20
  doesn't trust that he distrust this person.
• 32:22
  So is he doing this on purpose? Like is he trying to get a rise
• 32:26
  out of this person? So you're kind of like also
• 32:29
  coming across all of these reasons why he couldn't be doing
• 32:34
  for these performative actions, right?
• 32:40
  And it's so interesting to read the room and read it like he
• 32:45
  might. And then also, it's interesting
• 32:50
  to see where like, even though he is not intentionally doing
• 32:57
  some of these social things, he just like, realizes after the
• 33:00
  fact, like, oh, I should have done this or oh, I need to do
• 33:04
  that. Like, what else makes him
• 33:06
  endearing is like, he still has people that want to be his
• 33:09
  friend. Yeah.
• 33:11
  There's just something about his character, even within the show
• 33:14
  that. Other characters still want to
• 33:16
  righteous. Yeah.
• 33:19
  And commanding that people want to get to know him.
• 33:25
  Yeah, yeah. And so and.
• 33:27
  There's not much to get to know and like.
• 33:29
  Exactly. That's what's.
• 33:30
  Funny is that like there's not, it's very shallow, shallow water
• 33:33
  there. So yeah.
• 33:35
  And it's not like people treat him as a child.
• 33:37
  Like, that's not, that's not what we're saying either.
• 33:39
  It's like they very much understand he's adult, He
• 33:42
  doesn't act like a child or anything like that, but like
• 33:45
  there's just something as I can't like really describe it
• 33:49
  anyway. There's something really
• 33:51
  endearing about him, even though.
• 33:55
  But it's a a strength. It's like it's not a weak
• 33:59
  weakness, endearing like you would think maybe in a child
• 34:04
  who's in very big situations like the the ones in the show.
• 34:08
  Right. It's like a strength.
• 34:10
  Yeah. In the show.
• 34:12
  Yeah. And then Beiduna, who I love, I,
• 34:15
  I connected a lot with Beiduna because she is LED a lot by her
• 34:21
  feelings and emotions, but she's very calculating and observant
• 34:26
  as well. And I just love the how dogged
• 34:31
  she is. Yeah.
• 34:32
  In the pursuit of justice and in the pursuit of, you know,
• 34:39
  criminals and things, she's running after people and like
• 34:41
  using judo on them and stuff. And I'm like, get it, girl.
• 34:44
  And I love how she has this very nuanced take, especially like
• 34:49
  towards the middle and like end of the show.
• 34:51
  She has this very nuanced take on good and bad because no one
• 34:55
  is all good and no one is all bad.
• 34:57
  We are all Shades of Grey. And she has this opinion that's
• 35:03
  like we like all of us are pretty.
• 35:07
  Like none of us are good. Right, right.
• 35:11
  You know what I'm saying? Like no matter like what, we
• 35:14
  think that we're better than some of these criminals because
• 35:17
  we didn't murder someone or do this or that and the other like
• 35:20
  we're not good either just because we didn't do this
• 35:25
  criminal thing. Like what makes us good?
• 35:28
  Are we better than them? Like just, you know, she has
• 35:30
  this really cool ideology that I, because I took no notes and
• 35:35
  didn't get the actual quote. I'm paraphrasing.
• 35:38
  But I really appreciate her take and how she is basically like,
• 35:44
  look, we're all kind of sucky, right?
• 35:47
  Let's just try and be a little better, yeah?
• 35:51
  But I think that's why she's drawn to Shimak so much is
• 35:55
  because even though like he has this past where he wasn't very
• 36:02
  good and that also still plays into that quote.
• 36:07
  Currently, when the show is when he's an adult, he really is the
• 36:11
  epitome of a good like, which is ironic because he's like doesn't
• 36:18
  understand the societal norms and everything, but he literally
• 36:22
  is the epitome of a good Korean citizen 'cause he.
• 36:26
  Follows the. Rules and like.
• 36:28
  He's fair. Fair and like doesn't take
• 36:31
  bribes. Like he's the best you could
• 36:33
  possibly be in that situation. Which to take?
• 36:37
  Like not take bribes. That's like bare minimum.
• 36:39
  Exactly like. Bare minimum, don't take bribes.
• 36:42
  Exactly. And like you'll see in the show
• 36:44
  that he does like there are things that he regrets and could
• 36:49
  have done better and could have done that.
• 36:52
  But like it's, it's not like the bad type of thing that like you
• 36:58
  other see other people do. So like it's really interesting.
• 37:00
  Just like they do it, they do not having that mindset.
• 37:04
  And then meeting see, Mukim is like, OK, like he's like the
• 37:08
  best example ever. And he still has flaws, which we
• 37:13
  will we find out later on. They're both willing to call
• 37:18
  their colleagues out on their shit.
• 37:20
  Which? Yeah, yeah.
• 37:22
  Even today, if you were in a similar situation in, in a,
• 37:27
  you're in the Justice Department, right?
• 37:32
  Are you going to call out your colleagues who have seniority
• 37:36
  over you in a very hierarchical society?
• 37:42
  I don't know like. That's who.
• 37:44
  And who like expect you to not call them out, right?
• 37:48
  To have their back, to do the corrupt things they do to to
• 37:54
  make sure the the reputation, the reputation of the entity as
• 38:00
  a whole stays intact. Right.
• 38:02
  Yeah, yeah. That's a major theme in this
• 38:04
  show. Yes, huge.
• 38:08
  And they both say fuck that. Yes I will, and it's amazing
• 38:12
  you're you're taking that's the ride.
• 38:14
  That's literally the whole show is them going to bat for truth
• 38:19
  and justice and the American way.
• 38:21
  I'm just kidding. Not the American way, but you
• 38:24
  know what I'm saying? It's like just what is right,
• 38:28
  right, period. And I really just enjoyed their
• 38:35
  camaraderie, their journey, how she softens him, how when
• 38:39
  they're in situations together, she kind of plays the good cop
• 38:43
  and he, because he's so direct, plays the bad cop like he
• 38:47
  doesn't like because he has no filter.
• 38:49
  He has no like levels to things. It's just one tone the entire
• 38:56
  time. He inherently comes across as
• 38:58
  the bad cop and then she can come in and sort of like finagle
• 39:04
  and charm her way into being the good cop and get different
• 39:08
  information or whatever. So I love their dynamic together
• 39:14
  throughout the show and them eating together is great because
• 39:18
  they what is it? She?
• 39:20
  He doesn't like salty food and he's constantly and they don't
• 39:24
  say what it is until later in the show because they just show
• 39:27
  him like going to eat by himself, which again, is very
• 39:32
  he's an outcast in the prosecution service.
• 39:36
  So he goes to eat by himself. He doesn't give a shit.
• 39:39
  Everyone else gives a shit. He doesn't give a shit that he's
• 39:41
  eating by himself And he he's constantly putting water in his
• 39:44
  soup. And you see him kind of going
• 39:46
  like, oh, like kind of do having these reactions to the soup, to
• 39:52
  the food. And you're like, is it too hot?
• 39:54
  Like, is it what, what is it? Is it too spicy?
• 39:57
  Like what's going on? No, it's too salty.
• 40:00
  Right. And she understands him.
• 40:02
  Like they go to eat at one of those tents, I forgot what
• 40:05
  they're called, but like the tents, the outdoor tents, right?
• 40:08
  And he orders a soup. He does the same thing.
• 40:10
  And she's like, oh, it's too salty.
• 40:12
  And it she understands him. Yeah, well, the other thing is,
• 40:16
  is she's the only one that allows him to eat.
• 40:18
  Like that's also the running joke in both seasons is where
• 40:22
  it's like he goes to take a bite and like something.
• 40:25
  He gets a call. He gets a call.
• 40:27
  Or like somebody walks in or like whatever.
• 40:31
  So like. The you.
• 40:33
  The only times you see him eat is if he's with her.
• 40:37
  So it's like, or even like alone when he's in his apartment.
• 40:41
  You'd never see him eat ever in his apartment.
• 40:45
  So yeah. And that's also like a running
• 40:47
  joke where he, like, has no time to eat ever.
• 40:50
  Yeah, I also like the the the juxtaposition of like his
• 40:55
  apartment is very sterile and there's no personality but
• 41:00
  there. But something about him and the
• 41:03
  way that he plays his character, Tosungu is warm.
• 41:08
  Yeah, yeah. Like he treats people with a
• 41:12
  baseline respect. Right.
• 41:15
  Yeah. No matter their status.
• 41:20
  And the personality that starts to inject itself into his home
• 41:25
  comes from her because of the little doodles that she gives
• 41:29
  him, right? And instead of throwing them
• 41:32
  out, which you would expect this dude to just be like, OK, like,
• 41:34
  she threw a brain. And like, this little bit is
• 41:37
  like, my emotional capacity. And this part is like, my desire
• 41:42
  to finish the case and think like, it was like, this thing in
• 41:46
  the show, this moment in the show for this one doodle.
• 41:50
  And you expect him to throw out these doodles, which accumulate.
• 41:54
  Instead, he saves them. Yeah, because he looks annoyed
• 41:57
  when she gets these. Yeah.
• 41:59
  These doodles to him, yeah. And later on in the show, she's
• 42:03
  in his apartment and she sees them, and she just, like, smiles
• 42:06
  to herself. And those moments are so cute
• 42:11
  and, like, establish this relationship between them.
• 42:16
  And it's those moments, those glimmers between them that
• 42:20
  you're like, why aren't they together?
• 42:22
  Exactly? That's what we mean.
• 42:25
  That's what we mean by there should be romance, but there
• 42:28
  isn't. There's literally no romance at
• 42:30
  all in this show. It's because they have such a
• 42:36
  connection. Right.
• 42:38
  Yeah, that's that's that's going on.
• 42:41
  Two seasons. Two seasons, No romance going
• 42:44
  on. To see that, oh God, 32
• 42:48
  episodes. I honestly don't.
• 42:50
  I mean, knowing the character like you know there you can
• 42:55
  never comprehend romance really. Like it just won't.
• 42:58
  It wouldn't make sense. It really wouldn't.
• 43:01
  So I think like this relationship is pretty much as
• 43:04
  close of like quote UN quote or romance you will get with his
• 43:07
  character. Like he just cannot comprehend
• 43:10
  that at all because he's just too logical.
• 43:16
  So it wouldn't make sense if all of a sudden they started dating
• 43:19
  in like season three or something.
• 43:21
  It's just, it wouldn't make sense at all.
• 43:23
  But we can hope and pray that would happen.
• 43:26
  And like look off into the distance and kind of look at him
• 43:29
  in the alternative world because they they have such chemistry
• 43:33
  like the. Chemistry is so.
• 43:34
  Good. Yeah, good.
• 43:38
  Anyway, I don't know if there's anything else we can talk about
• 43:41
  without getting into, like, true spoilers, Right?
• 43:44
  Right. Anyway, we did our best.
• 43:46
  What would you rate this show out of five sold you bottles?
• 43:49
  I think I know the answer, yeah. Like I would rate this one of my
• 43:55
  favorite shows. Oh my God, Yeah, yeah.
• 43:59
  I would rate this 4 1/2 out of five and the .5 is literally
• 44:03
  just because I have a pea brain and I was a little bit too lost
• 44:07
  last few episodes. But I'm positive that if I
• 44:10
  rewatch the show I would appreciate it even more.
• 44:14
  That happened to me with season 2 because I rewatched season 2
• 44:18
  and I rated it like a nine when I first watched it.
• 44:22
  I still loved it, but it was it all.
• 44:25
  It was really confusing when I first watched it 'cause I was
• 44:28
  watching it as an aired. So I think it helped that I like
• 44:31
  was binging it this time. So I raised it to a 9.5 'cause I
• 44:35
  could appreciate the drama more. But got you.
• 44:39
  Yeah, I completely understand why this would be confusing.
• 44:43
  It is one of those dramas you have to really pay attention.
• 44:46
  You have to like, you cannot. Just.
• 44:50
  Put it in the background and expect to.
• 44:52
  Get it? You have to pay attention.
• 44:53
  You can't look at your phone like you can't do any.
• 44:56
  It's one of those. Even season 2 is the same way
• 44:58
  like you cannot. It's not one of those where
• 45:02
  you're half assed watching it. You have to watch it to
• 45:04
  understand what's going on. For sure, for sure.
• 45:07
  OK, so those are our ratings. We're going to get into spoilers
• 45:10
  right after this as much as I can.
• 45:11
  Again, I don't have a very good memory and I was very confused
• 45:16
  for a little bit of the show, so we'll see.
• 45:18
  And I have no notes, so we'll see how much I can contribute to
• 45:22
  the spoiler section. But yeah, we're going to do
• 45:25
  spoilers right after this. Excuse me, I can't tell.
• 45:30
  I can't tell you know. I am noting.
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  Oh sorry, swear this crossing shells.
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  What? All right, we're on the other
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  side of spoilers. So if you don't care about
• 45:47
  spoilers, keep listening. But if you want to preserve your
• 45:50
  first time watch of stranger season one, then stop watching,
• 45:55
  stop listening and come back later.
• 45:57
  Keep listening after you've watched the show.
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  So I don't know where you want to start Caitlyn or what you
• 46:04
  want to say, but like, I, I thought that the Oh my God, I
• 46:13
  don't have, I don't, I don't even have nicknames written down
• 46:15
  for these people. So Yu Jian Myong plays Ichang
• 46:20
  Jun, who is like the chief prosecutor.
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  And then he gets promoted to the Blue House.
• 46:25
  He quits the prosecution service and then he gets not promoted,
• 46:33
  but like affirmed into the Blue House or whatever, Right, Right.
• 46:40
  And he has the crazy wife and the the table father-in-law,
• 46:49
  right. So this guy, I always thought he
• 46:52
  was sketchy. I was like he's for sure in on
• 46:55
  it. Like he he has to be the
• 46:58
  murderer of Mr. Park because Mr. Park is the dead body.
• 47:03
  Mr. Body. We'll call him Mr. Body because
• 47:07
  he's the first body that we see. He's the the murder that kind of
• 47:13
  colors the whole show. He's the.
• 47:15
  One found in the house. He's the one found in the house,
• 47:18
  he's the one that was stabbed to death in his own house.
• 47:21
  But this guy wasn't a savory character at all.
• 47:24
  He was bribing almost the entire prosecution service and
• 47:30
  providing them with women, underage girls of money
• 47:37
  services, what you name it. He was like procuring it for
• 47:40
  them, for his own gains as well as other people's gains.
• 47:44
  He was like a broker. Yeah, because he was using all
• 47:47
  of that as leverage in terms of blackmail when it if he needed
• 47:52
  to, if he had, he had all this information against basically
• 47:56
  anybody in leadership on both, like just not even the
• 47:59
  prosecution. Like the IT was like cops, it
• 48:02
  was CEO, it was, it was everybody, everybody who was
• 48:05
  anybody. He had everyone's dirty laundry.
• 48:08
  Yeah, yeah. So it was just a matter of time
• 48:12
  before he, I mean, he had a target on his back because.
• 48:15
  Absolutely. And he knew it, that's why.
• 48:16
  And he knew it. House.
• 48:17
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 48:20
  So Mr. Body dies and Ichangjun, the chief prosecutor, I'm just
• 48:25
  going to call him the chief prosecutor, even though like
• 48:27
  another chief prosecutor comes in.
• 48:29
  It's very confusing. But anyway, chief Prosecutor
• 48:32
  Changdun, he's sketchy because you think that he was like
• 48:38
  sleeping with an underage girl. They had like video footage of
• 48:41
  her going into his hotel room at like this conference, conference
• 48:48
  that they went to and stuff like that.
• 48:50
  And he didn't sleep with her. He like swore up and down and
• 48:53
  like he didn't sleep with her. And he was just, he hated she
• 48:58
  Monk. Like you could tell that there
• 48:59
  was animosity between him and well, not she Monk didn't give a
• 49:05
  shit. But like he hated she Monk
• 49:07
  didn't like that he was so righteous that he was so
• 49:12
  proactive against like all this corruption and fine.
• 49:17
  Well, I think he also didn't like the fact that he didn't bow
• 49:24
  down to him. Like, he, he, he because Shima
• 49:27
  didn't understand that this dude was your boss.
• 49:32
  Like, you needed to bow to him. You needed to shake his hand.
• 49:35
  Yeah, he didn't like that. He didn't like the fact that
• 49:38
  there was this guy who unintentionally, like, he viewed
• 49:42
  it as intentional. He did not think like the, the
• 49:46
  chief prosecutor didn't think like 'cause at the time when
• 49:49
  this was going on, the chief prosecutor didn't know what
• 49:51
  actually was happening with Shamuk and his head, but like he
• 49:56
  thought it was intentional. He thought Shamuk was doing it
• 49:58
  in terms of like to undermine him.
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  So he didn't like that either. Like he on one hand, he didn't
• 50:04
  like the fact he was like digging up all this dirt and.
• 50:07
  Like he was good at his. Corruption but also didn't like
• 50:10
  the fact he didn't bow to him and view him as his boss.
• 50:14
  Yeah, yeah. Didn't show him proper.
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  But then at the end you find out he kind of did at the same time,
• 50:20
  like he did respect him at the same time.
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  It was interesting. I almost don't know if they did
• 50:26
  it. I don't know because what threw
• 50:31
  me off the scent was this like holier than thou speech that he
• 50:36
  gave in. Like, I don't, I don't think it
• 50:40
  was midway through the show, maybe like 1/4 of the way
• 50:43
  through the show, he comes to like Shemukh and he says like, I
• 50:49
  basically, I believe in justice. I believe in the prosecution
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  service. I didn't do this thing that you
• 50:55
  accused me of. And basically, again, I'm
• 50:57
  paraphrasing because I don't got the quote in front of me at all.
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  He was like, I don't, you know, I believe in, in the process,
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  the process, the justice system and stuff like that.
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  And he did. And his acting was so good
• 51:16
  because I believed him. I was like, I think maybe he's
• 51:21
  telling the truth that he, he, this is his religion.
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  You know what I'm saying? That he.
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  Well, I think The thing is is. Actually righteous.
• 51:31
  I think that's like that, that what was great about the speech,
• 51:34
  Is it it that's what he thought. He trusted the process and he
• 51:38
  trusted the system, but he then got married to Hanjo's heiress
• 51:44
  and that's when it went downhill.
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  Like that's the problem is like he did he he, he was Shemukh
• 51:53
  before he got married and before he got entangled in Hanjo.
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  And then he at the end, he was like, I am aware, I'm fully
• 52:04
  aware that I am not the person I was before I married this
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  person. While I love her, I have done
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  very sketchy things and I will own up to it, quote UN quote
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  Shimuk. And Shimuk is the only person I
• 52:21
  can trust because I'm well aware that he is never going to take a
• 52:27
  bribe. He's never going to be corrupt,
• 52:29
  he's never going to do all that. So he literally is the only
• 52:32
  person I can trust with all this information and whatever.
• 52:36
  So I respect him. Like the The thing is, is like
• 52:39
  he realized I might hate the guy because he never like it might
• 52:45
  rub my mind. Yeah, it.
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  But I have to respect him. I have to respect his his.
• 52:51
  I got to respect the game. Yeah, I have.
• 52:54
  Yeah, his yeah. So I mean it it, it was a very
• 52:57
  interesting dynamic with this character because he he was
• 53:01
  Shimuk before he married Hanjo and then Hanjo got.
• 53:04
  Corrupted. Along with like everybody else,
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  got corrupted by. It wasn't just a corruption of
• 53:13
  like deeds, it was like a corruption of his soul.
• 53:18
  Almost like he felt like he betrayed his own values and his
• 53:23
  moral, his own sense of morality by marrying this person that he
• 53:28
  loves who has a the devil as a father.
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  Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that and that was his
• 53:40
  downfall. Like he he was ended up being
• 53:44
  the devil's advocate. Yeah, and then you, I always
• 53:47
  love the scene when they're in the courtroom where he's like,
• 53:50
  you're never going to see me on trial.
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  Because like, you'll never see me.
• 53:54
  You'll never prosecute me. Because like, I never predicted
• 53:58
  his ending. I thought he would like, go on
• 54:00
  trial. And then I was like, oh, he was
• 54:03
  like, that was foreshadowing he. Literally was like, you will
• 54:06
  never catch me alive. Right?
• 54:09
  Exactly. And we both thought we're going
• 54:12
  to see him alive at the end of the show.
• 54:17
  Psych No, he ends up killing himself, which I despite the
• 54:24
  fact that this was always foreshadowed, I and and the I
• 54:29
  don't like when they do this. Like I I'm going to precipice
• 54:32
  this whole thing by saying I don't like when they do this in
• 54:34
  general in K dramas. Is that the person who has done
• 54:37
  the most wrong, who is at fault for everything?
• 54:41
  Hold on, hold on, let me finish. Hold on, hold on, let me finish.
• 54:44
  So the person who is at fault like the the murderer, the
• 54:48
  rapist or whatever, they end up killing themselves to escape
• 54:54
  consequences, punishment, what have you.
• 54:58
  I hate when that happens because then and then the show like
• 55:01
  moves the fuck on like quickly They're like, OK, I guess that's
• 55:04
  done. Can't prosecute a dead person.
• 55:07
  In this case, they did it the best way possible because this
• 55:12
  person was going through internal turmoil for the better
• 55:18
  part of 20 years and he was like, his letter to his wife was
• 55:24
  wild, was like unhinged. She was like Korea's on the
• 55:28
  brink of societal collapse, blah blah blah blah.
• 55:31
  Nothing sacred. Well, it was like crazy and I
• 55:36
  was like, Oh my God, there's no he for years wanted to kill
• 55:40
  himself because he felt so trapped.
• 55:45
  Trapped. That's a great word.
• 55:47
  He felt so trapped because he loved his wife.
• 55:50
  He never cheated on her and loved his daughter and, and
• 55:54
  like, but at the same time, look at everything that his
• 56:00
  father-in-law made him do, made him say yes to.
• 56:04
  And you can't like choose in Korean society especially.
• 56:10
  I feel like that's cutting off your father-in-law.
• 56:16
  Right. And especially in his situation,
• 56:18
  like in his. Situation.
• 56:19
  He wasn't rich when he married the.
• 56:21
  Family. Like it was very apparent he
• 56:24
  came from a poor upbringing. He was like lucky to be married
• 56:28
  to her in terms of society terms.
• 56:31
  Like he could not say no to his. He married.
• 56:35
  Could not. Yeah, he married.
• 56:36
  To everyone else's eyes, he married up.
• 56:38
  Yeah, and his father-in-law knew and exploited that.
• 56:42
  Yeah. Yeah, it was foul.
• 56:44
  And there was no escape like his daughter was studying abroad,
• 56:51
  like this would never happen if he was like, we can't be aligned
• 56:56
  with your chaebol family. Like we have to go it alone.
• 57:01
  Right. Yeah.
• 57:04
  So it was, it was undeniable that he would kill himself to
• 57:11
  escape. Yeah.
• 57:13
  And make. Himself the scapegoat yeah, but
• 57:17
  at the same time like he revealed everything and revealed
• 57:21
  like he he can't he went out as a morally Gray character in my
• 57:26
  opinion because. Because whether he did what he
• 57:29
  did, yeah. He did, still at.
• 57:31
  The end of the show, you're like, what did he?
• 57:33
  Think yeah, but the one thing you.
• 57:35
  Know he did. Was a whistleblower at the.
• 57:38
  Same. Yeah, he was a exactly He was a
• 57:40
  whistleblower, but you don't know exactly what he did.
• 57:42
  The only thing you know for sure is that he instigated Looney
• 57:48
  from Prison Playbook or Seven O. We'll call him Seven O because
• 57:52
  of the tattoo. Yeah.
• 57:54
  He instigated 7 O to kill. Mr. Body Yeah, yeah.
• 58:02
  And like, orchestrated that whole thing for him.
• 58:05
  Right. Which means he is a murderer.
• 58:08
  Like I said, maybe that's it. Like that.
• 58:12
  Is that the worst thing that he did?
• 58:13
  Like on paper, I don't know. They showed him like winning and
• 58:17
  dining with people in a one of those bars, not bars, sushi host
• 58:22
  clubs, sushi restaurants or something.
• 58:26
  And he obviously maintained that he never cheated on his wife, so
• 58:30
  it's not like he was taking sexual favors.
• 58:32
  Right. But like, what else did he do?
• 58:35
  Like he, I think it was all paper.
• 58:37
  I think he was all doing stuff on paper.
• 58:39
  Yeah, it was all about like money.
• 58:41
  Yeah, it was all about. Laundering.
• 58:43
  Money it was. It was all had to do with that,
• 58:48
  that town or city that they were like building.
• 58:51
  Yeah. And he was basically funneling
• 58:54
  money through it. He was basically laundering
• 58:56
  money like he was laundering money through it.
• 58:59
  And then also all of these people, because he was so high
• 59:03
  up, he got some people off the hook in terms of crimes and in
• 59:08
  terms of that too, so. Like which to me?
• 59:11
  Helped people. Through the system.
• 59:13
  It wouldn't be so bad if he was a defense attorney, right?
• 59:17
  Unless he was doing something illegal, like, you know,
• 59:21
  altering evidence and like, you know what I'm saying.
• 59:23
  Like, well, that's what the law. And that's I think was part of
• 59:26
  it. Plus he was on the wrong side.
• 59:28
  Plus he was on the prosecution service side.
• 59:31
  So is just bad. But again, they don't go into
• 59:37
  detail about what he did so wrong.
• 59:40
  But anyway, he kills himself and I think it was done the best
• 59:44
  way. This is terrible to say like
• 59:46
  that. The suicide was done in the most
• 59:48
  tasteful way. I think it was presented in the
• 59:52
  most tasteful way. Right.
• 59:55
  Yeah. Yeah, but it you were, you were
• 59:59
  taken aback. Well, I at the first time I'd
• 1:00:06
  ever watch this, I just didn't predict it even though they
• 1:00:09
  foreshadowed it. Like so I I it made sense for
• 1:00:14
  the character after it happened. Like I totally agreed why they
• 1:00:18
  went direction they did with his character.
• 1:00:20
  But just the first time watching it, I never predicted that he
• 1:00:24
  would be like I knew very early on he was a bad guy, like he was
• 1:00:30
  one of the people involved, but like I just didn't A, didn't
• 1:00:33
  predict he was the lesser of evils compared to other people.
• 1:00:37
  And B, like while it made sense in hindsight, like I never
• 1:00:42
  predicted that he would just go and kill himself.
• 1:00:46
  But because the, the surroundings of why he killed
• 1:00:49
  himself and like how he did it and what came afterwards made
• 1:00:53
  sense in hindsight. But I just, it was a, it's a
• 1:00:56
  terms of just like I didn't predict it happening.
• 1:00:59
  I think he was also, so he found himself so reprehensible and the
• 1:01:06
  fact that he could have been on trial in the very courtroom that
• 1:01:11
  he so respected, it would have broken him.
• 1:01:19
  And it would have been so embarrassing for him to have led
• 1:01:22
  the prosecution service as a chief prosecutor.
• 1:01:25
  And then it comes out, all this shit comes out and then he's on
• 1:01:29
  trial. I think it would have it.
• 1:01:30
  It would have ruined him internally and his whole life.
• 1:01:35
  It would have imploded his whole life, so he knew like it just it
• 1:01:39
  couldn't go down like that. Right.
• 1:01:41
  Yeah. And I think another thing that
• 1:01:44
  he did, it is like he revealed all this dirt that he had
• 1:01:48
  recorded, the whistle blowing stuff and whistle blow.
• 1:01:51
  He knew if he didn't kill himself, somebody would.
• 1:01:54
  Oh, yeah. Like it would it?
• 1:01:55
  He would never have surprised Sur Sur survived.
• 1:01:58
  And it would have been his father-in-law.
• 1:02:00
  Yeah, it would have been something his father-in-law did
• 1:02:02
  and he never would have survived it.
• 1:02:04
  So he was like, I'd rather go out in my own way and do my own
• 1:02:10
  thing. Have the agency.
• 1:02:12
  Over it versus knowing I'll be killed two months from now yeah,
• 1:02:16
  it yeah, is is. And that way he got all the
• 1:02:20
  information out too, like he didn't have, he didn't have to
• 1:02:26
  be the Mr. Body with all this leverage because he like it was
• 1:02:31
  all out and everybody, everybody's dirt was there and.
• 1:02:35
  Yeah, all the recordings and the paperwork and everything.
• 1:02:38
  So his wife, I want to touch briefly on his wife because I
• 1:02:41
  saw her. I was like, where is she from?
• 1:02:43
  Where's she from? I haven't watched Sky Castle
• 1:02:45
  yet. That is later in Season 5.
• 1:02:49
  Nice, nice. Just I have not.
• 1:02:51
  I have not watched that either. Oh OK, well anyway, first time
• 1:02:55
  for everybody. So his wife, I watched her in
• 1:02:58
  Snowdrop and when I realized that I had watched her in
• 1:03:00
  Snowdrop, I had like a full body chills.
• 1:03:04
  So the the wife, I found her so cool because you couldn't tell
• 1:03:12
  if she was good or bad. You couldn't tell if she was out
• 1:03:16
  here trying to kill mistresses or if she was just suspicious of
• 1:03:24
  the people that could be his mistress.
• 1:03:27
  You know what I'm saying? Right, right.
• 1:03:30
  So it turns out that she wasn't killing mistresses.
• 1:03:34
  She was. She was just going to lay eyes
• 1:03:37
  on them. Yeah, she was just curious.
• 1:03:40
  She was just curious. Yeah, she has a bigger role in.
• 1:03:43
  Season 2, yeah, I saw. I saw that she was like a top
• 1:03:46
  building in Season 2. I was like, oh, cool.
• 1:03:49
  So she also, I was like, we need to talk more about the
• 1:03:54
  conversation that the wife has with BAE Doona at that awkward
• 1:03:58
  dinner. Yep.
• 1:04:00
  That she tries to host with the investigation crew because I was
• 1:04:06
  like, what is this? This is like I could write a
• 1:04:08
  thesis on this. Because the dynamic they were,
• 1:04:15
  it was like 2 lionesses in a room together and everyone else
• 1:04:19
  was just, they were like zebras. Like they had no, you know, they
• 1:04:24
  had no say. They didn't matter because
• 1:04:29
  Beduna, like she is. So I don't know how to describe
• 1:04:33
  this conversation because I don't have the conversation in
• 1:04:35
  front of me. But you know which one I'm
• 1:04:37
  talking about, right? Yeah.
• 1:04:38
  Oh, yeah. Like the one where the wife was
• 1:04:39
  like, oh, it's so weird to see a female cop.
• 1:04:46
  Like, it starts like that. And Beduna's like, yeah, like
• 1:04:51
  I'm a female cop, Like, what of it?
• 1:04:54
  And it turns into like this housewife versus working woman
• 1:04:58
  thing. It was a feminism versus
• 1:05:02
  traditional, Yeah, feminism versus trad wife thing and
• 1:05:06
  classism thing all together. Right.
• 1:05:12
  I think it would. I think in one way it was just
• 1:05:17
  due to the upbringing that the wife had and the fact that her
• 1:05:21
  father probably catered to her every need.
• 1:05:24
  She somehow thought that she could host this dinner with the
• 1:05:30
  team and either get information somehow from them or manipulate
• 1:05:37
  them into not pursuing the case or whatever.
• 1:05:43
  And then the fact that Schumach and Beduna like do not accept
• 1:05:47
  bribe like nobody in that room did.
• 1:05:49
  But like, it was, it was like it, it became very apparent very
• 1:05:53
  quickly that she was not going to get her way and she couldn't.
• 1:05:58
  She needed to keep up this facade of a perfect housewife
• 1:06:02
  while hosting this, even though you could tell she was like
• 1:06:05
  fuming inside. So it, it, I think that that's
• 1:06:11
  how I interpreted that scene where like she was trying to
• 1:06:13
  either get information or basically tell them to knock it
• 1:06:16
  off and leave this alone. And then real.
• 1:06:20
  I quickly realized that was not going to happen and it's all of
• 1:06:25
  this. And I think the and I.
• 1:06:27
  Think the other thing is because she went she literally was
• 1:06:30
  talking directly to Beduna because she was the only other
• 1:06:33
  female in the room so she felt I think she could.
• 1:06:36
  She thought she would get something out of her.
• 1:06:38
  Like she thought she could manipulate the only female.
• 1:06:42
  Right. That they would have some sort
• 1:06:43
  of camaraderie or like, girl, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:06:47
  Like they would connect. Yeah.
• 1:06:50
  It didn't happen. It was like oil and water.
• 1:06:52
  Yeah. And the way that her fate, the
• 1:06:55
  wife, the her face changes when I can't even remember what
• 1:07:00
  Beiduna said, but like her face like changes and falls and she
• 1:07:05
  looks like she's about to kill Beiduna.
• 1:07:07
  She like made a joke, like Beiduna made a joke.
• 1:07:11
  It's some she said something and Beiduna being Beiduna like her
• 1:07:15
  character just was like and it wasn't even her character was
• 1:07:18
  trying to get back at her. She just, like, made a joke
• 1:07:20
  trying to, I think kind of like trying to like, like cut the
• 1:07:25
  tense, like the tension in the room because everybody could
• 1:07:28
  tell there was it. So she, like, made a joke trying
• 1:07:31
  to, like, cut the tension. And then the wife didn't like it
• 1:07:37
  because it obviously made her look bad with an.
• 1:07:41
  It was insulting. Yeah.
• 1:07:43
  It was insulting, Yeah. Oh my God, I loved it.
• 1:07:47
  Yeah, I was eating up that messy trauma.
• 1:07:51
  This is so tense. Like they nobody wanted to be
• 1:07:54
  there, but they can't say no because it's the chief
• 1:07:55
  prosecutor's wife that, you know, it's all of this politics,
• 1:07:59
  right? Like these relationship politics
• 1:08:03
  that are happening? Right.
• 1:08:05
  And I think the prosecutor also invited them over because he
• 1:08:08
  thought he could do the same thing, like get information and
• 1:08:13
  either tell them to knock it off.
• 1:08:15
  And obviously that also didn't happen, so.
• 1:08:19
  So let's move forward and talk about the weasel, which is Ijun
• 1:08:24
  Hyuk. His character's name is Dong
• 1:08:26
  Jay. Like that guy.
• 1:08:28
  Like fuck that guy bro, like. He he's getting like a spin off.
• 1:08:33
  So is he really? Yeah.
• 1:08:35
  That's the that's the that's the show that's coming out this
• 1:08:37
  year. He's.
• 1:08:38
  Getting Oh my God. And no one really know if it's a
• 1:08:41
  prequel or a sequel or something.
• 1:08:43
  I'm assuming it's like a like a spin off spin off.
• 1:08:46
  But yeah, that's it's literally going to be his story.
• 1:08:53
  Oh my God, this guy's the worst. The worst.
• 1:08:58
  He is super easily. No, he choked out home girl
• 1:09:05
  Unsu. Like when he choked her almost
• 1:09:08
  to the point of death. I was like, yeah, you're done.
• 1:09:12
  We can't refer you anymore. You almost killed a woman in an
• 1:09:17
  alley over actually nothing at all.
• 1:09:20
  She just said, I'm not going to let you get away with something
• 1:09:24
  like she just goaded him in the street, which she was stupid for
• 1:09:27
  that. But no sense at all.
• 1:09:31
  That man, he had no sense. And he was, he was fully, fully
• 1:09:39
  taking bribes, taking everything.
• 1:09:42
  They had all of this evidence on him.
• 1:09:44
  And then he was like, why don't you just let me go and I'll help
• 1:09:47
  you out? And then he becomes like this
• 1:09:48
  quasi ally for the last half of the show.
• 1:09:52
  Yep. Yep, I cannot believe they let
• 1:09:56
  him back onto the prosecution. I mean, they couldn't really,
• 1:09:58
  they didn't really have anything on him specifically.
• 1:10:01
  He was a small fish. Like they they used him
• 1:10:05
  basically and he knew he he was going to be used so he took that
• 1:10:08
  to his advantage. Like they had bigger fish to
• 1:10:12
  fry. But him tampering with evidence
• 1:10:14
  with the phone? Yeah, of course.
• 1:10:17
  I mean, I'm not saying like he's a great character.
• 1:10:19
  He's a very great character. Like he, he's not a good guy,
• 1:10:23
  but they they were like there's bigger fish to fry.
• 1:10:26
  We need him to get evidence of other people.
• 1:10:28
  We need him to do this. Like he and he, that's the also
• 1:10:32
  his character though, like he's not loyal to anybody.
• 1:10:36
  Like the minute either people are going after him or he is
• 1:10:40
  going to get fried, he switches sides and that's his character.
• 1:10:45
  That's his characters through and through, especially in
• 1:10:49
  season one. The.
• 1:10:53
  But that's the fun of his. Character I hate it.
• 1:10:55
  He's he is fun. He is fun but also a so
• 1:10:58
  annoying. Yeah, so annoying.
• 1:11:01
  Yeah, he's he's a lovable, annoying character.
• 1:11:04
  I love him. He's so good.
• 1:11:06
  Because you think he might have murdered someone like earlier on
• 1:11:11
  the show, you think he might have murdered the girl, the
• 1:11:14
  hooker. And then you're like, maybe not.
• 1:11:18
  And then you're like, well, maybe he did.
• 1:11:19
  Like you're flip flopping back and forth like then you find out
• 1:11:23
  maybe he didn't murder her but why the fuck does he have his
• 1:11:26
  her phone? Right.
• 1:11:28
  And it's like this whole back and forth and this goes for
• 1:11:31
  every single sketchy character in the show.
• 1:11:33
  Like you're unsure of every single person besides the lead 2
• 1:11:37
  characters. This is the, this is how it goes
• 1:11:41
  for the whole show. You're like.
• 1:11:42
  Well, even though we even there was a time where you were like
• 1:11:44
  Ishimuk actually a good guy though like that's the beauty of
• 1:11:48
  this show too. Like because he is so reserved
• 1:11:53
  and so closed off you for a couple episodes even him is
• 1:11:57
  looking a little sketchy until everything is revealed.
• 1:12:01
  Craziness Don Jay is. Craziness.
• 1:12:03
  So good. Don Jay.
• 1:12:05
  So when he choked out Unsu, that's when I was like, you're
• 1:12:09
  done, you're done. And then he was like, Oh my God,
• 1:12:13
  is she alive? Is she alive?
• 1:12:14
  Oh, thank God she's alive. I'm like fuck out of here, bro.
• 1:12:16
  Like you suck. What a punk.
• 1:12:20
  OK, then Unsu, who's played by Sheena son.
• 1:12:24
  I found her so annoying as well because she just didn't have
• 1:12:30
  like street smarts. She didn't.
• 1:12:32
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't I see?
• 1:12:36
  Smarts. Yeah, I also found her quite
• 1:12:38
  annoying in in the first watch like.
• 1:12:40
  And she was just like banging her head against the wall and
• 1:12:43
  not really realizing, oh, I have a concussion, right?
• 1:12:49
  Or she was like. Yeah, and then like she would
• 1:12:51
  run off and like, follow people without telling anybody.
• 1:12:54
  Just so reckless. You knew it was coming.
• 1:12:57
  You knew it was coming with her. Yeah.
• 1:12:59
  So when they were like, it was a possibility.
• 1:13:01
  At the end of the show, we get a second body.
• 1:13:03
  Finally, we have a second body. Yeah.
• 1:13:06
  And it's in the hooker's house, so it's either the hooker who
• 1:13:10
  went missing at the hospital or it's someone else.
• 1:13:13
  And when they're not saying who it is, I'm like, it's in Sue,
• 1:13:18
  it's unsu. It's got to be unsu.
• 1:13:20
  And lo and behold, they like uncover the the blanket that
• 1:13:24
  they have they put on her and 1st there she is, she's dead.
• 1:13:28
  Yeah, yeah. Just Bluetooth close to the sun
• 1:13:32
  there. Just not that she deserved it.
• 1:13:36
  I'm saying like she. Well, I mean, like I think you,
• 1:13:42
  you knew. You knew the minute you saw the
• 1:13:44
  zero. She saw the 07.
• 1:13:45
  She was daughter. Marked her death.
• 1:13:49
  You knew. She saw the text like how did
• 1:13:53
  you? How did you feel about that
• 1:13:54
  reveal? Oh, that was the worst one to
• 1:13:57
  me. That was the.
• 1:13:59
  That was the one that I sent you, I think.
• 1:14:00
  I I was waiting for that. Voice memo I was like screaming
• 1:14:04
  in the voice memo because the the end of the episode like that
• 1:14:09
  that he so this is we're talking about say 17-O looney from
• 1:14:15
  prison playbook EQ hyung, that guy seven O he you thought he
• 1:14:22
  was an ally. You thought he was just kind of
• 1:14:24
  like a straight laced internal affairs dude that got taken on
• 1:14:30
  great chemistry with everybody on the on the show, on the
• 1:14:33
  investigation team and a really good investigator and he was
• 1:14:38
  very supportive, very helpful. Girl, when that juice or
• 1:14:44
  whatever fell on his shirt and it turns see through and you
• 1:14:47
  could see the tattoo, I was like, Oh my God, is that a 70?
• 1:14:50
  Is that A70 on this man's body? And sure enough, it looks like
• 1:14:55
  it's not a 70, but it looks like A70.
• 1:14:57
  Yeah, I start hyperventilating. I was like, Oh my gosh, Is he
• 1:15:03
  the killer? Has he been the killer the whole
• 1:15:06
  time? Right.
• 1:15:08
  The whole the whole time. Yep.
• 1:15:11
  The whole time he's right there it embedded.
• 1:15:15
  Embedded, so there was no rebounding from the.
• 1:15:20
  I couldn't handle it. That was.
• 1:15:26
  Well, then you got that wonderful scene in the airport,
• 1:15:29
  which that was the scene when I that was the that was like, I
• 1:15:32
  need to put this scene on my social media, but I can't do it
• 1:15:35
  yet because she had an. Airport scene is amazing.
• 1:15:40
  It is astonishing. Like him.
• 1:15:42
  Like yeah, over Beiduna. One of my favorite scenes in
• 1:15:46
  season one. It is such it should go down as
• 1:15:49
  like in the in the pantheon of chase scenes in K drone like
• 1:15:53
  that is a really good chase scene and he's plowing through
• 1:15:59
  police officers like nothing. Right.
• 1:16:03
  Yeah. Like they're made of cardboard.
• 1:16:08
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:16:09
  Like he's truly gifted. That man is true.
• 1:16:11
  That's truly gifted criminal. So I enjoyed the heck out of
• 1:16:16
  that reveal. I was super entertained.
• 1:16:20
  And yeah, it spirals out of control because then after they
• 1:16:23
  figure out he's the killer. Is he the killer of Mr. Body
• 1:16:27
  alone? Is he the killer of also Unsu?
• 1:16:32
  Did he attempt to kill the hooker as well?
• 1:16:36
  Like what to? What's the?
• 1:16:38
  Extent of this, right, Yeah. Yeah, so it's it's crazy.
• 1:16:45
  It kind of goes pretty fast from there.
• 1:16:48
  Once they catch him, it goes pretty fast from there.
• 1:16:50
  At the end of the show right now, my only guess, and I'll
• 1:16:54
  tell you this was straight wrong, was that Kyung Wan, who
• 1:16:58
  is Mr. Body's son? I thought he was the killer.
• 1:17:02
  I thought that he killed his dad and that didn't happen at all.
• 1:17:10
  I especially thought he was suspicious because he was
• 1:17:14
  running from police and shit and he was deleting photos of the
• 1:17:17
  hooker from his phone. Right, right, because he had a
• 1:17:23
  crush on her in high school. And then his dad, like, hired
• 1:17:27
  her to be this underage hooker. It was nuts.
• 1:17:31
  It was nuts. Oh my God, Bedlam.
• 1:17:36
  So he had motive for killing his dad and then he ended up not
• 1:17:41
  right not killing his dad. Yeah, but this came up recently
• 1:17:47
  and I can't remember. Oh reset when we did our drama
• 1:17:49
  trio reset review and we were spoilers for reset spoilers for
• 1:17:54
  reset that see drama the. I'm going to try and make this
• 1:17:59
  as non spoiler as possible, but at the end of that show we
• 1:18:01
  figure out who is the assailant. Right.
• 1:18:07
  The bomber on the bus and we were like, look, it, it kind of
• 1:18:15
  gives because of the reason for why they were doing that.
• 1:18:20
  It kind of gave them a license. Anybody who was in that same
• 1:18:25
  situation, a license to kill, right?
• 1:18:29
  Because because of that crazy sad back story and the situation
• 1:18:34
  that they were in and in this very similar case for say 170,
• 1:18:42
  he lost his son in this fiery bus crash.
• 1:18:47
  And it was very, it was completely heartbreaking to hear
• 1:18:52
  the story coming from him when he was being interrogated by
• 1:18:54
  Shiwan and he was saying, like, I looked into the situation and
• 1:19:00
  it was, you know, basically a big corruption case, big cover
• 1:19:03
  up. And my son died for nothing.
• 1:19:06
  Like unnecessarily like it was, it was not an accident.
• 1:19:09
  It was, it was negligence. Yes, yes.
• 1:19:14
  And what Baiduna's character ended up saying to him was that
• 1:19:22
  anybody who's lost a child has a can do what you did then, like
• 1:19:29
  they have a license to anybody. There's so many people who have
• 1:19:33
  gone through terrible, wrongful situations and does that mean
• 1:19:38
  they can start killing people? Right.
• 1:19:42
  And the answer is overwhelmingly, profoundly no,
• 1:19:46
  No, yes. It's no like this.
• 1:19:50
  This level of vigilante justice, like, where does it end?
• 1:19:52
  It's a slippery slope. Exactly.
• 1:19:54
  Yeah, so that's what she was. Saying in his, in his case, it
• 1:19:59
  wasn't one person too. It's like, Oh yeah, it's not
• 1:20:02
  like, yeah, it's not like he just like went and killed the
• 1:20:06
  driver. He like killed the people who
• 1:20:09
  didn't fix the bus. He killed the person who hid the
• 1:20:16
  the people who didn't fix the bus.
• 1:20:18
  Like it was like a whole thing. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:22
  So I found that really important.
• 1:20:26
  Like that? She said That, yeah.
• 1:20:28
  Yeah, yeah. I don't.
• 1:20:32
  I was going to say I don't have anything in my notes.
• 1:20:34
  Look, I have no notes but. So what did you think in terms
• 1:20:38
  of like, what did you think of BAE Doona and Shimuk's, like,
• 1:20:44
  first encounter together? Because they had, well, they
• 1:20:48
  technically two encounters. I'll say one is like when
• 1:20:51
  they're chasing after the suspect and like, they both meet
• 1:20:55
  each other and they both are like, what the hell are you
• 1:20:57
  doing? Like you're a prosecutor.
• 1:20:59
  I'm a cop. Like, we're chasing the same
• 1:21:00
  guy. What the heck?
• 1:21:02
  And like they go through all the alleys and everything.
• 1:21:04
  And then Beduna like, is up on that second floor, whatever.
• 1:21:08
  The guy like, jumps down and then she looks there.
• 1:21:11
  So like, what did you think of that meeting?
• 1:21:13
  And then the other meeting was like, when they're in the guy's
• 1:21:16
  house, like the, the, the Mr. Body's house and she comes
• 1:21:20
  around the corner and she looks like this there was a night like
• 1:21:25
  in his own world, like trying to figure out scenarios of how this
• 1:21:28
  dude could get killed. Like what did you think of
• 1:21:31
  those? Two scenes I like the meet cue
• 1:21:35
  of them chasing the same suspect and then he takes the suspect
• 1:21:41
  and like, leaves her high and dry and all of her colleagues
• 1:21:44
  are like, why the hell did you let the prosecutor take the
• 1:21:46
  perp? Like, that is bizarre.
• 1:21:48
  You, Jim, you both chased him. And then, yeah, that moment that
• 1:21:53
  she sees him like whipping around this kitchen knife, this
• 1:22:01
  giant kitchen knife, trying to recreate the scene and figure
• 1:22:06
  out what what possibly happened in the amount of time that the
• 1:22:13
  that the perp had to do it to make to do the murder is.
• 1:22:19
  I thought that was hysterical. And I know it's not meant to be
• 1:22:22
  hysterical. You're supposed to be surprised.
• 1:22:24
  You're supposed to be like, oh, no, she's seeing him like figure
• 1:22:27
  it out. And there's no context for her.
• 1:22:30
  And he's not going to explain anything because he doesn't give
• 1:22:32
  a shit and he doesn't realize that he looks like a lunatic
• 1:22:36
  and. And that like speaks to his
• 1:22:39
  character in general. Like he does that a lot in like
• 1:22:42
  where it's like he imagines himself.
• 1:22:44
  Like this is a trope in crime dramas.
• 1:22:46
  You have these characters that kind of imagine himself as the
• 1:22:49
  criminal. He does that a lot in in both
• 1:22:52
  seasons. So it's like you ran like just
• 1:22:55
  you imagine him like like just being in a room with him and
• 1:22:59
  he's just standing there imagining fix the entire time.
• 1:23:05
  Oh my God. Yeah.
• 1:23:09
  Also, I enjoyed the red herring of like this.
• 1:23:12
  What was it? I think it was Ausb drive with
• 1:23:15
  evidence on it of tax evasion of the chaebol family that the
• 1:23:21
  ousted. I don't know what what was he
• 1:23:25
  like because this was unsu. 'S dad Yeah, he was the he was
• 1:23:32
  the previous chief prosecutor. Was he OK?
• 1:23:35
  Yeah. So the previous chief
• 1:23:38
  prosecutor, that old man, he had all this evidence and he was
• 1:23:43
  hiding it for three years and then Unsu got murdered.
• 1:23:47
  And they thought it was because she had this evidence on her.
• 1:23:50
  She like specifically went to get this USB drive and bring it
• 1:23:53
  to Chimok to help the case and she gets slaughtered.
• 1:24:00
  I love the red herring that this was kind of like building up and
• 1:24:03
  we were wondering what's going to happen to this USB drive?
• 1:24:05
  When is Shima going to get his hands on it?
• 1:24:06
  He was requesting this evidence for the longest time from the
• 1:24:09
  from the old man and he wasn't giving it up.
• 1:24:12
  And then finally she gets murdered and you think, Oh no,
• 1:24:16
  the bad guys have the evidence. They have this USB drive.
• 1:24:20
  Finally they got their hands on it and it didn't even matter.
• 1:24:23
  They were like, get rid of all her shit.
• 1:24:26
  Like it doesn't even factor in the.
• 1:24:29
  Overall story, this tax evasion evidence, right, right.
• 1:24:33
  It's so I thought that was some of the.
• 1:24:35
  I love that red herring. Well then even with her
• 1:24:38
  character because you have these scenes throughout where it's
• 1:24:41
  like like you don't even know if she's a good person.
• 1:24:45
  Oh yeah, the longest time, like there was that like coffee scene
• 1:24:49
  where he like goes and like sees like the footage talking to the
• 1:24:53
  guy, talking to the Mr. Body and she's the one talking to him.
• 1:24:57
  She was the last person to see him alive.
• 1:24:59
  So you're like, what the heck? Yeah, you're like, Oh my God.
• 1:25:02
  Did she have her boyfriend or ex-boyfriend murder him?
• 1:25:05
  Right. Exactly.
• 1:25:07
  Yeah, yeah. It was good.
• 1:25:09
  I liked it. Again, everyone is morally Gray.
• 1:25:13
  No one is safe from being suspicious.
• 1:25:17
  And I liked it. I liked it a lot.
• 1:25:20
  I thought it ended on a on a interesting note.
• 1:25:23
  You thought he was going to America to tour every single
• 1:25:25
  state? I was like, that sounds like
• 1:25:26
  torture. They said he was going to every
• 1:25:30
  single. What was it like?
• 1:25:34
  State Department. State.
• 1:25:37
  Yeah, it was like prosecution department when they said he was
• 1:25:40
  going to all 50. I was like, Oh my God.
• 1:25:44
  That's a lot. That's a lot.
• 1:25:47
  Somebody stop him. Yeah, I just love the fact that
• 1:25:51
  like going back to like, Shimok and like Beiduna's relationship,
• 1:25:57
  like. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:25:59
  I love that she kind of like, once they got over the fact
• 1:26:02
  that, like love, like the realizing they have to work
• 1:26:05
  together, she kind of just like pops up in randomly, like, like
• 1:26:11
  in his office, for example. He'll like walk in and she's
• 1:26:14
  like sleeping on the chair. Yeah, because she's been
• 1:26:17
  waiting. For.
• 1:26:18
  But then he lets her keep. Sleeping exactly.
• 1:26:20
  Yeah. Like.
• 1:26:21
  She's tired. It's like those moments where
• 1:26:23
  it's like, it's just, it's funny how like going back to the
• 1:26:30
  Sherlock Holmes Watson thing, like it was like he didn't say
• 1:26:36
  anything. He didn't like request that her
• 1:26:39
  like to be in his life or anything, but she kind of was
• 1:26:42
  just like, I'm going to barge in on your life and kind of just be
• 1:26:47
  there all the time. Yeah.
• 1:26:50
  And like, what did you think of that whole?
• 1:26:56
  Well, two things. So there was like the the the
• 1:27:00
  suit in his head in his house. Like, what did you think of that
• 1:27:05
  whole scene? Like, like, 'cause like what I
• 1:27:08
  liked about this is like we, we touched on it was like found
• 1:27:11
  family. It was like the, it started with
• 1:27:15
  Beijuna and then it brought into her other cop buddy and then it
• 1:27:20
  was unsu. And then it was like the
• 1:27:23
  assistants and then it was 07 and then it was the, the, the
• 1:27:31
  other guy. What's, what's his other guy
• 1:27:33
  name? Yeah.
• 1:27:34
  So it was like a bunch of them, right?
• 1:27:36
  So like they he gets he. The HR specialist.
• 1:27:40
  Yeah, he, he walks in on this suit and he calls her very
• 1:27:46
  deadpan. Is like, Oh yeah, you, you
• 1:27:48
  should come over here. OK, so the suit that we're the
• 1:27:51
  suit that we're talking about is that someone illegally entered
• 1:27:55
  his house while he wasn't there and literally chopped up a a
• 1:28:00
  suit of his and hung it up by a noose.
• 1:28:05
  Yeah. And like, and when when the
• 1:28:07
  lights were off, you thought it was a person like.
• 1:28:10
  Yeah, like, and then he's burning on the lights and you
• 1:28:12
  realize it was a suit, but it looked like an hanging body.
• 1:28:16
  Yeah. So like he calls up Beiduna and
• 1:28:19
  Beiduna's like. What?
• 1:28:21
  And like runs over, but not only her, like everybody runs over to
• 1:28:25
  his. House, it's her.
• 1:28:26
  It's her and the other cop, the one that gave the evidence to
• 1:28:29
  the the police chief. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:34
  So also the police chief, kind of like the first watch.
• 1:28:38
  I was annoyed by the police chief a lot.
• 1:28:40
  Yeah, he's wrong anyway. Well, not, not, not not that
• 1:28:46
  police chief, not the one that went on trial.
• 1:28:49
  The. One, the other one, the boss.
• 1:28:50
  I know exactly who you're talking about.
• 1:28:51
  Yeah, he's he never. Yeah, we never got a resolution
• 1:28:55
  for him. No, no.
• 1:28:57
  And you don't really. He's in Season 2.
• 1:28:58
  Like he's a little more in Season 2, but like in Season 2,
• 1:29:02
  it's the same thing, kind of. We have squinty eyes over here
• 1:29:07
  'cause we're just like. But I just love the fact like
• 1:29:10
  there's those moments that you like live for is like they all
• 1:29:14
  come racing over and you're like, are you OK?
• 1:29:16
  Are you OK? He's like, I'm fine.
• 1:29:18
  And then they look at it and they're like, it's much, much
• 1:29:21
  worse than you said over the phone.
• 1:29:25
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like, are you OK staying here?
• 1:29:27
  He's like, yeah, I'm totally OK staying here.
• 1:29:29
  And they're like, Are you sure about that?
• 1:29:31
  What the hell? Yeah.
• 1:29:35
  And then the other thing is like, what did you think about
• 1:29:38
  his whole head situation? I thought this was a convenient
• 1:29:43
  thing that they kept pushing was every time he was in a stressful
• 1:29:47
  situation he would get these. It was like tinnitus or
• 1:29:49
  something and ringing loud ringing in his ears or
• 1:29:54
  something. Yeah.
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  I thought they would bring it up more often and it would come
• 1:29:59
  into play in situations, high fake situations, but it really
• 1:30:05
  didn't. It would.
• 1:30:06
  It came into play like 3-4 times in the whole show and it started
• 1:30:11
  the show. Because he stops traffic because
• 1:30:13
  he has one of these episodes and you see him kind of come to and
• 1:30:17
  he's backed up an entire bridge because he's pulled over, which
• 1:30:23
  he could have just gone off the bridge entirely, like having one
• 1:30:26
  of these episodes, but he had the wherewithal to stop and park
• 1:30:30
  the car in the middle of the street.
• 1:30:33
  And then he wakes up and just keeps on going towards Mr.
• 1:30:36
  Body's house, which is when all hell breaks loose.
• 1:30:40
  I, I don't know, I, I had, I think they could have utilized
• 1:30:45
  it more, but when it came in, you were like, oh, right.
• 1:30:49
  He has this recurring thing. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:52
  And that was one of the things I wish they had.
• 1:30:55
  Like, it was heartbreaking to see eBay Dunas character find
• 1:30:58
  out, like, what was going on. Yeah, because even I I still
• 1:31:04
  remember the line where because it was like right after Unsu,
• 1:31:07
  they found Unsu when he had the big episode.
• 1:31:10
  And he goes to the he goes to the autopsy.
• 1:31:14
  Yeah, which they were. Everyone was like, why are you
• 1:31:17
  serious? You're going to go to the
• 1:31:18
  autopsy of Unsu. And he was like, yeah, I'm going
• 1:31:22
  to do it. And right after the autopsy, he
• 1:31:25
  collapses. Right.
• 1:31:27
  Yeah. And so like the line that she
• 1:31:29
  comes in is like he she sees him on the bed and she's like, can
• 1:31:36
  we stop seeing people in this way?
• 1:31:39
  Or like, can we like this is too much or something like that?
• 1:31:42
  Like I I interpreted that as like her saying what Seemukh
• 1:31:50
  wanted to say like 'cause we have fully know like with with
• 1:31:56
  his reaction to Unsu like that was like like his.
• 1:31:59
  Body's reaction. Yeah, so like the whole point of
• 1:32:02
  the especially like the really bad episode he had was like he
• 1:32:08
  could not express how guilty and how much regret he had and how
• 1:32:14
  much like feelings he had towards unsu and the death he he
• 1:32:19
  saw it as it was his fault like fully and he couldn't express
• 1:32:23
  that whatsoever. So that in that caused his
• 1:32:29
  entire episode to him like going like falling down in the hallway
• 1:32:34
  and everything because that was the culmination of all of these
• 1:32:37
  emotions being built up for the last 12 hours to 24 hours or
• 1:32:41
  whatever. But yeah, like her character
• 1:32:45
  walking in and basically saying what he wanted to say in a way
• 1:32:51
  and having that feelings of expression that he wanted to do
• 1:32:58
  and then. I didn't take it that way.
• 1:33:00
  I thought it was it was sort of her sentiment.
• 1:33:02
  Well, it. Was for the.
• 1:33:03
  Whole situation plus things she look like.
• 1:33:06
  That yeah, it was, but I think, I mean I interpreted it was, I
• 1:33:09
  mean I interpreted it was her, but also I interpreted it as
• 1:33:12
  like she was translating him. As well.
• 1:33:16
  I like that. I like that double meaning.
• 1:33:19
  And then I also, one of my favorite scenes in the entire
• 1:33:21
  show is the funeral scene where he explodes.
• 1:33:26
  Bro. Because thanks for bringing me
• 1:33:28
  one of the best acting scenes I've ever seen him do.
• 1:33:31
  Because it's. Just Oh my God.
• 1:33:33
  You don't expect it. Yeah.
• 1:33:34
  Start screaming, starts getting really angry.
• 1:33:37
  You don't expect it. Like, obviously no one expected
• 1:33:40
  it because he's never done that before.
• 1:33:42
  But it's just like you, you and like, at that point, the chief
• 1:33:48
  prosecutor, like the the guy who committed suicide at the end of
• 1:33:52
  the show, like knows about his condition and knows like what
• 1:33:56
  led to his condition. So like, you kind of could tell
• 1:34:01
  he was a little scared in that scene too.
• 1:34:04
  He like he knew what this. Dude could like did when he did
• 1:34:08
  get angry before he had the filter of the surgery.
• 1:34:11
  So if people don't understand, like, so Shumuk's character, the
• 1:34:16
  reason why he got the surgery to basically got a lumbotomy in a
• 1:34:21
  way, is because he had some violent outbursts, like really
• 1:34:27
  violent outbursts when he was a child and in school.
• 1:34:30
  And they just couldn't do anything to quell those
• 1:34:36
  emotions. And he couldn't express them
• 1:34:38
  very well and couldn't. He was just like, yeah, he
• 1:34:42
  couldn't control them. So they basically gave him a
• 1:34:44
  lumbotomy. They removed parts of his
• 1:34:47
  frontal temporal lobe, which is where your personality is.
• 1:34:50
  Right. It's who you are, and that is
• 1:34:55
  how he turned into who he is today.
• 1:34:58
  Yeah. And so there they explained it
• 1:35:01
  in the show where there are times where because he cannot
• 1:35:06
  process that anymore, Like, and when he was a child, he was over
• 1:35:10
  processing stuff and couldn't control them.
• 1:35:12
  But now it's the other way around where like he still has
• 1:35:15
  those emotions. They're just very, very, very
• 1:35:18
  deep within him and his body cannot process those emotions.
• 1:35:22
  And when he becomes too stressed or has too many emotions of
• 1:35:28
  these built up and his brain cannot comprehend them and can't
• 1:35:32
  find a reasonable way to quell them and to make him understand,
• 1:35:37
  he has these episodes. And so in the funeral scene, I
• 1:35:43
  think it was a combination of him again feeling regret himself
• 1:35:49
  and being guilty himself. But also getting really angry
• 1:35:53
  that like basically everybody who led to her death because he
• 1:35:56
  fully knows there's somebody in the room that did kill her, kind
• 1:36:01
  of just like talking business in the funeral.
• 1:36:03
  Like they were very disrespectful at this funeral.
• 1:36:07
  And he got angry because no one was saying anything.
• 1:36:10
  And he finally just was like, are you kidding me?
• 1:36:13
  So I love that scene. It was one of my favorite.
• 1:36:16
  Scenes. Well, the father, her dad, the
• 1:36:19
  OG chief prosecutor started going for the Blue House.
• 1:36:26
  Chief prosecutor Changjun, who showed up?
• 1:36:28
  Which bad form to show up when it's so sketchy your involvement
• 1:36:33
  in this whole thing? They do it all the time though.
• 1:36:35
  Gripe. Shows.
• 1:36:37
  They do it all the. Time, I'm sure, yeah.
• 1:36:39
  And I, yeah. So he shows up to the well.
• 1:36:41
  Even the father-in-law was there, which I always never was.
• 1:36:45
  Like, I was like, why? Like there's no reason for the
• 1:36:51
  father-in-law to be there. Like he didn't know unsu.
• 1:36:53
  He didn't. Yeah.
• 1:36:55
  So UNSU's dad goes feral on his ass and it's like you killed my
• 1:37:02
  daughter how can you be here? And he like takes his cane and
• 1:37:05
  like tries to hit him and it hits Dongje, which thank God it
• 1:37:08
  hits Dongje like he needs to be hit.
• 1:37:11
  And then like fuck that dude. And and that's when because all
• 1:37:17
  it it it's very I think he got over stimulated also like she
• 1:37:21
  milk in this situation. And he goes alright.
• 1:37:23
  Like then he starts screaming at everybody.
• 1:37:26
  Yeah. And the dad, and he says like,
• 1:37:29
  why didn't you do anything when you had the chance, right?
• 1:37:33
  Yeah. And I think did you?
• 1:37:35
  Did you? Think you were hiding the truth
• 1:37:37
  for your family? Because look what?
• 1:37:39
  Look what's happened. Yeah, and that speaks to Shima's
• 1:37:41
  character because again, we said he's very blunt about anything.
• 1:37:44
  Like he does no filter whatsoever.
• 1:37:47
  To blame her father for her death at her funeral, Yeah,
• 1:37:51
  like. That's yeah, that's just
• 1:37:53
  something you don't do. And again, I think that scene
• 1:37:56
  also was him realizing it was also his fault.
• 1:38:01
  Like he has always, I mean, you'll see this in season 2.
• 1:38:04
  It's a it's a ongoing thing. He'll bring up unsu in season 2
• 1:38:08
  as well, where it's like you fully know he regrets what he
• 1:38:12
  did with this character. Like, and The thing is with this
• 1:38:16
  character is like she, even though we did find her annoying
• 1:38:19
  a little bit like she tried to work with him.
• 1:38:22
  He, she tried to help him out and yeah, and she had her own
• 1:38:27
  agenda and own motives to do that too.
• 1:38:30
  But he also was like and. He didn't trust that he didn't.
• 1:38:32
  Trust she had an agenda and he also was trying to protect her
• 1:38:36
  at the same time. It wasn't all just like he
• 1:38:39
  didn't trust her. He also was like, if you get
• 1:38:41
  involved in this, something's going to happen and I don't want
• 1:38:45
  you to have that. But on the other hand, in
• 1:38:50
  hindsight, you kind of see that he thought he should have
• 1:38:54
  involved her because at least she would have been more safe.
• 1:38:58
  Like, in hindsight, I think he realized she would have been
• 1:39:01
  more safe. Yeah.
• 1:39:02
  She wouldn't have been alone. Exactly.
• 1:39:04
  So the funeral scene I think was also him kind of yelling at
• 1:39:08
  himself and realizing that all these people in the room led to
• 1:39:14
  her death. But he also could not be
• 1:39:18
  completely absolved of the reason why he was dead.
• 1:39:22
  It's heavy. It's heavy, yeah.
• 1:39:24
  And I love that scene. I'm glad you brought it up.
• 1:39:26
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:39:28
  Well, did you have anything else in your notes?
• 1:39:32
  Anything at all. So you have a question that in
• 1:39:37
  here that I I've always loved the OS TS for this drama and
• 1:39:45
  season 2. Like I I woke up this morning
• 1:39:47
  because I finished season 2 like two days ago.
• 1:39:49
  I still have season 2 OST in my head.
• 1:39:53
  I absolutely love the music of this like not even the OS TS.
• 1:39:59
  I love the background instrumental of this like
• 1:40:01
  whenever there's like when there's like something revealed
• 1:40:06
  or like at the at the. Very the viol.
• 1:40:10
  Like the violins, like it's like my head, like the drums come.
• 1:40:14
  In Yeah, I hear it right now. It's good love that I like.
• 1:40:20
  It's very one of my. Favorite, favorite background
• 1:40:23
  musics of all time? Yeah, I love it.
• 1:40:27
  Yeah, it's very good. Great, Great point.
• 1:40:31
  It's not even OSC, it's just score.
• 1:40:33
  It's score. Yeah, it's a score.
• 1:40:34
  It's a memorable score. It's like one of those things
• 1:40:37
  where it's like the OS TS. I hear it.
• 1:40:39
  I'll be like, Oh my God. Exactly, exactly and season 2
• 1:40:42
  kept the same thing like you'll you'll see that it's the same
• 1:40:45
  like they have different OS TS, but it's the same like score
• 1:40:49
  played differently, like you know, it's it's the same
• 1:40:55
  concept, like they have the same like violins and drums and
• 1:40:58
  everything, but it's differently sounded in a way, but it's
• 1:41:01
  familiar. OK.
• 1:41:04
  But yeah, I absolutely love the instrumental backgrounds of
• 1:41:08
  this. I mean I like the OS TS too, but
• 1:41:09
  like. Nice.
• 1:41:10
  Hands on one of my favorite scores in a drama ever.
• 1:41:14
  I love that. I'll say the last thing that I
• 1:41:18
  have on my mind is he shows Shemukh, shows the wife, the
• 1:41:24
  chief prosecutor's widow, the suicide note that he leaves
• 1:41:29
  behind for her. It's it's with him because he
• 1:41:31
  left it to for Shima to give to her right.
• 1:41:35
  And she reads it because she comes in so hot, like guns
• 1:41:38
  blazing. She goes, I'm going to take you
• 1:41:40
  down. There's not going to be anything
• 1:41:41
  left. Like she talks such a big game.
• 1:41:43
  And then he doesn't say shit to her.
• 1:41:45
  He just goes and gives her the note.
• 1:41:47
  He gives her the letter. She reads it and she doesn't say
• 1:41:51
  anything. She just gets up and leaves.
• 1:41:53
  Yes check bounce so appropriate she's just like you know what my
• 1:41:59
  husband had his head on straight as a matter of fact, and you
• 1:42:02
  know what I think I'm a little bit embarrassed.
• 1:42:05
  I'm going to leave because there's nothing to there's
• 1:42:08
  nothing to take down here. This is exactly what he wanted.
• 1:42:13
  Was this whole. Investigation.
• 1:42:15
  Well, and the fact is like she realized because I mean, one of
• 1:42:19
  the reasons why she came in hot is because she fully blamed
• 1:42:21
  Shivoke for her husband's death. That's what she said, that you
• 1:42:25
  killed him. And in season 2, she still
• 1:42:28
  thinks this a little bit, but like, there's things said to her
• 1:42:31
  in season 2 that kind of writes her even more.
• 1:42:33
  But like, I think obviously reading that suicide note, she
• 1:42:39
  knows like, because in the suicide note he's like, Shumuk
• 1:42:42
  is the only person I trusted, like.
• 1:42:44
  And I think that also kind of irked her a little because he
• 1:42:49
  didn't realize. Yeah, he.
• 1:42:51
  She realized because he. Could have left all that stuff.
• 1:42:54
  With her exactly. But he didn't.
• 1:42:56
  Yeah, yeah. Which like says a lot about
• 1:43:00
  their relationship and his relationship with him and things
• 1:43:05
  like that, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's bad.
• 1:43:10
  It was toxic. It was toxic.
• 1:43:11
  He might have loved it, but it was toxic.
• 1:43:13
  Anyway, I think that's it. Like, did you have anything else
• 1:43:17
  you wanted to say before we get out of here?
• 1:43:19
  I don't think so. Oh my God, well this was
• 1:43:22
  wonderful. As you can see, we had a
• 1:43:24
  fantastic time watching Stranger season one and we will likely,
• 1:43:28
  very likely be back for Stranger season 2 to talk that through.
• 1:43:33
  Caitlin's already done the hard work and rewatched season 2.
• 1:43:36
  I have about 15 1/2 episodes to watch before I'm done, but it'll
• 1:43:43
  it'll happen. It'll happen this year for sure.
• 1:43:46
  We would love to hear from you guys.
• 1:43:48
  If you have watched Stranger and you want to hear more from us,
• 1:43:51
  talk to me. But obviously talk to Caitlin
• 1:43:52
  because Caitlin's watched it twice.
• 1:43:54
  Now three times. Three times.
• 1:43:56
  Oh my. God 'cause I re I re.
• 1:43:57
  I rewatched this when season two came out so this was my third
• 1:44:01
  time rewatching season. 1/3 time rewatching season one.
• 1:44:05
  So where can we find you online, Caitlin, in case people haven't
• 1:44:09
  listen to the drama trio episodes or Flower of Evil or
• 1:44:12
  something in the Rain or all the all the episodes that you're on?
• 1:44:15
  You can find me on Instagram and Tiktok and Twitter under no
• 1:44:19
  sleep, the number for dramas. I'm mostly on Instagram and
• 1:44:23
  Tiktok though, so yeah. Or you can go and listen to my
• 1:44:27
  podcast or blog like. Exactly.
• 1:44:29
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:44:32
  Well, that's been our show. I'm Jessica and this has been
• 1:44:35
  the Tibba K Rambles podcast. None.