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Florida's Session Begins January 13th ... What You Need To Know · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Speaker 1: And we begin the third hour. I was telling Jose
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  Speaker 1: everything just seems right in the world when we're back
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  Speaker 1: on the air, doesn't it. I mean, it's just the
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  Speaker 1: birds are singing a little more loudly, the sun shines
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more crisply. It just everything just it's
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  Speaker 1: just a deep breath. I know, I know what you're feeling.
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  Speaker 1: I just everything felt out of sync, even though I
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  Speaker 1: was loving my time with my family and my wife
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  Speaker 1: and I had a wonderful getaway. We'll talk about that
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  Speaker 1: later in the week. It just we're back.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great Drake White song. If you ever all
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  Speaker 2: would be right with the world. Yeah, if beer and
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  Speaker 2: fried chicken didn't, you know, try their best to kill me,
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  Speaker 2: all would be right with the world. Okay, I've never
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  Speaker 2: heard that song.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, great song, familiar voice of Salnuzo from Consumer's Defense
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  Speaker 1: with us.
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  Speaker 2: Good Christmas holiday, Great to be with you, great holidays. Also,
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  Speaker 2: really glad to be back, and kind of gearing up.
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  Speaker 2: We've got about a week before the session begins. Lots
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  Speaker 2: of stuff going on, not just in Florida but nationwide.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be a crazy midterm cycle. But
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  Speaker 2: where're you looking forward to?
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  Speaker 1: It would it be overstating it to say this is
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  Speaker 1: a critical midterm election. I don't think it would be
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  Speaker 1: an overstatement. I think we buy and large have overused
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  Speaker 1: certain terms in the electoral process. One of them is
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  Speaker 1: the most important election of our lifetime. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: every cycle critical election. I definitely think it is a
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  Speaker 1: benchmark election in a critical way for the direction in
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  Speaker 1: particular of the conservative movement in.
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  Speaker 2: The United States. A lot has happened, just even in
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  Speaker 2: the last several weeks since our last time together, that
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  Speaker 2: are kind of exposing the internal debates and dialogues among
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  Speaker 2: different factions.
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  Speaker 1: In the movement.
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  Speaker 2: What about inside the state of Florida, Well, you've got
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  Speaker 2: this question of what will the governor's final year look like?
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  Speaker 2: In terms of policy dynamics. It's not an overstatement that
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  Speaker 2: the governor is arguably the single most successful and accomplished
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  Speaker 2: executive of a state in a conservative direction in our
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  Speaker 2: lifetime just policy when I would agree, So what does
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  Speaker 2: that last year look like? What does he do after?
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  Speaker 2: And how do those kind of factions internally of this
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  Speaker 2: kind of quote unquote pro DeSantis faction versus the ones
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  Speaker 2: who have been kind of more of the traditional Trump
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  Speaker 2: Maga crowd and those do those riffs continue or expand
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  Speaker 2: or do they come together in the in the electoral process.
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  Speaker 1: Give us it's a snapshot in a couple minutes of
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  Speaker 1: the governor and the Lieutenant governor, the different cabinet officers.
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  Speaker 1: What the last few weeks have been like.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, so you've got a lot, especially in the cfo's
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  Speaker 2: spot blazing. Golia has continued to kind of be the
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  Speaker 2: John the Baptizer sort of out in the counties, pointing
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  Speaker 2: out the direction that local governments in particular have gone
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  Speaker 2: with respect to revenue. And he is doing his best
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  Speaker 2: to lead the way for Governor DeSantis coming down the
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  Speaker 2: pike and trying to push for that elimination of homesteaded
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  Speaker 2: property taxes, which would have to go on the ballot.
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  Speaker 2: And we've talked about that initiative over several months and
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  Speaker 2: that's going to continue because you don't necessarily have the
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  Speaker 2: legislature with him on this completely.
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  Speaker 1: What about the attorney general age.
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  Speaker 2: If you are in the business of the of the
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  Speaker 2: corporate woke agenda, or you're in kind of the child
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  Speaker 2: sex abuse, you better leave the stay. It is just
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  Speaker 2: that man is singularly focused it seems on a couple
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  Speaker 2: of different big items. One is going after people who
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  Speaker 2: threaten or harm children, and if you are involved in
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  Speaker 2: the corporate woke kind of agenda, you're gonna hear from
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  Speaker 2: him very quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Lastly, the Lieutenant Governor, Jay Collins, very visible, came on
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  Speaker 1: this show almost every other week for a while. It
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  Speaker 1: seems like things are quieting down.
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  Speaker 2: We still have not had an announcement one way or another.
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  Speaker 2: When he has publicly been asked about it, the Lieutenant
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  Speaker 2: Governor has been a bit cagy. He asked about running
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  Speaker 2: for governor. Well, an announcement maybe coming in the near future.
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  Speaker 2: Announcement will be coming in the near AEO never teases
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  Speaker 2: out what specifically that might be. It is the big question.
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  Speaker 2: But every day that passed is kind of makes it
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  Speaker 2: more and more challenging to mount a real financial campaign
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be required to take on Byron Donald.
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  Speaker 1: Now, many of you know that we have relied on
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  Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation for years for experts on a wide
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  Speaker 1: range of topics, and that may or may not change
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  Speaker 1: as things changed, I mean things just you know, there
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  Speaker 1: are times that our guest list evolves and we drop
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  Speaker 1: guests and we pick up others and we are introduced
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  Speaker 1: to new people. But there has been if you have
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  Speaker 1: not known a seismic shift at Heritage Foundation, and Sal
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  Speaker 1: I know that you for your involvement with the James
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  Speaker 1: Madison Institute now with Consumers Defense, you have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of intersection with Heritage. Tell our listeners what happened broadly,
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  Speaker 1: and then go as deep as you want in your
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  Speaker 1: analysis of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, because I do think it does have an
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  Speaker 2: impact on the direction of the conservative movement nationally and
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  Speaker 2: in Florida. What's kind of happened in full disclosure. As
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned, I have done quite a bit of work
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  Speaker 2: with Heritage over the years. I continue to do quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit of work with Heritage on our various issues.
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  Speaker 2: Heritage Foundation is massive. It is a one hundred million
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  Speaker 2: dollar a year operation run by Kevin Roberts, who, prior
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  Speaker 2: to his role here was the head of the Texas
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  Speaker 2: Public Policy Foundation, which you mentioned JMI. JMI is the
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  Speaker 2: Florida version of TPPF. So what happened mechanically was Tucker
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  Speaker 2: Carlson did an interview on whatever platform he does his
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  Speaker 2: interviews to a gentleman by the name of Nick Fuentes, which,
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  Speaker 2: if you're not familiar, Nick is a rabbit anti Semite
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  Speaker 2: is kind of just a miscreant, a misguided youth, but
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  Speaker 2: has a massive following. Tucker gave him what many called
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  Speaker 2: a softball interview and an amplified Nick's message. Tucker has
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  Speaker 2: a longstanding connection with Heritage, going back to when I
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  Speaker 2: think he started as an intern when he was young,
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  Speaker 2: has known Kevin for a long time. Kevin released in
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  Speaker 2: a video from Heritage where he not only didn't disavow
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  Speaker 2: Nick Fuentes in the interview, but actually praised Tucker in
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  Speaker 2: a sense for having it. Now, as you might imagine,
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  Speaker 2: if you have any kind of a love for Israel
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  Speaker 2: or you are fighting anti Semitism in the United States,
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  Speaker 2: this is going to be a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I wrote Heritage Foundation, and I wrote Therapy our people.
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  Speaker 1: I said, until I get some better understanding what's going on,
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  Speaker 1: I'm cutting off Heritage.
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  Speaker 2: And it started out with things like that in a trickle,
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  Speaker 2: and then Kevin in Heritage, or at least Kevin, sort
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  Speaker 2: of doubled down. They tried to clean up a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of the mess and the drama that was transpiring
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  Speaker 2: on Twitter and X and doubled down in some other respects.
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  Speaker 2: As a result, you had a number of board members
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  Speaker 2: from Heritage who resigned, some scholars resigned, and then last
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  Speaker 2: week it was kind of like, well, the roller coaster
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  Speaker 2: may have kind of ridden its course, he might have
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  Speaker 2: ridden out the drama. Well, last week, an entire section
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  Speaker 2: of the Heritage Foundation. It was the ed Mese Center.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's big, Yeah, named after Ronald Reagan's attorney general,
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  Speaker 2: who had been a longtime Heritage supporter board member. The
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  Speaker 2: whole bit, that whole section departed en mass like twelve individuals,
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  Speaker 2: including a couple of senior members for another think tank.
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  Speaker 2: They departed and planted their flag at the it's Advancing
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  Speaker 2: American Freedom, which is Mike Pence's think tank, And that
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  Speaker 2: created another wave of all of this. And so you
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  Speaker 2: had two senior members not in that center, one Hans
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  Speaker 2: von Spakowsky, who's on your show all the time, they
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  Speaker 2: also resigned. They didn't go to Advancing American Freedom, but
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  Speaker 2: they're going to land somewhere. And this really does expose
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  Speaker 2: kind of this debate that's popped up, and it's been
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  Speaker 2: over the last three to four years in the conservative movement,
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  Speaker 2: and you've got on one side what you would describe
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  Speaker 2: probably as old Guard establishment, the very pro Israel in
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  Speaker 2: many respects pro interventionists globally grew up in the Reagan years,
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  Speaker 2: fought and beat communism, global War on Terror, the whole bit.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have this new faction that's a evolved
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  Speaker 2: sometimes it had been called alt right, and then it
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  Speaker 2: kind of got some other monikers, generally younger, not exclusively male,
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  Speaker 2: but definitely a majority. They've used social media as an
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  Speaker 2: organizing tool. They're far more isolationists in nature. They're not
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  Speaker 2: a fan of intervention. They're not a huge fan of
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  Speaker 2: everything Israel does. Are they a fan of a Nick Fuentes? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: And that is this this movement. They are embracing various
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  Speaker 2: pieces of people like Nick Fuentes and others, and the
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  Speaker 2: old Guards see that in you know, it's like they
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  Speaker 2: want no part of that. And so there's this big fisher.
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  Speaker 1: Right now. Sal Nuzo with us from Consumers Defense, we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about the blow up at Heritage Foundation. I think
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  Speaker 1: it matters. I think it matters a lot.
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  Speaker 2: But does it Yes, absolutely, this matters for the future
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  Speaker 2: of the conservative movement, for conservative policy and for conservative principles,
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  Speaker 2: and because Heritage is more than fifty years old and
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  Speaker 2: they have been kind of the apex organization for so long.
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  Speaker 2: Like I mentioned in a prior segment, they're more than
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  Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar a year operation. They carried a
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  Speaker 2: brand identity as the flag bearer for conservative principles in
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  Speaker 2: policy in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: From my chair, which is not nearly as detailed in
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  Speaker 1: an involvement with Heritage and its policies as yours. I
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  Speaker 1: looked at Heritage as being above the fray. They were
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  Speaker 1: just you know, more idealistic and expressing it in here's
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  Speaker 1: why we hold these views, Here's what the Constitution says
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  Speaker 1: about it. You figured out from their type thing and
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  Speaker 1: not getting into the eats when they start working in
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  Speaker 1: where I think Tucker Carlson has gone wrong. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like they've lowered themselves into an area that they just
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  Speaker 1: have always been above.
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  Speaker 2: And there is an argument to be made that you know,
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  Speaker 2: Tucker interviewed Nick Fuentt as not at the Heritage Foundation.
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  Speaker 2: He did it on his own show in his capacity
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  Speaker 2: as a private person, and had Kevin Roberts and Heritage
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  Speaker 2: not come out with a video either way, if they
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  Speaker 2: had just done nothing. Would all of this have happened
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  Speaker 2: in the way and transpired in the way that it did,
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know that it would have which kind
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  Speaker 2: of brings you into you would have we would have
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  Speaker 2: thought that there might have been a better crisis management
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  Speaker 2: plan laid out here. But with that in mind, I
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  Speaker 2: think Heritage is absolutely going to continue to be a
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  Speaker 2: may your player in policy. Yes, this is a bit
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  Speaker 2: of a realignment of keep enough money. Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean they well, they have new leadership. Now there
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  Speaker 2: is a big question now the leadership of Heritage. Kevin
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  Speaker 2: serves at the pleasure of the board, and as board
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  Speaker 2: members have been rolling off, they will appoint new board
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  Speaker 2: members and Kevin will play a role in that. And
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  Speaker 2: so I like a little bit of the dust has
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  Speaker 2: got to settle in terms of waiting and seeing how
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  Speaker 2: the board composition looks.
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  Speaker 1: I see cracker Barrel in their future. I see them
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  Speaker 1: rolling people onto that board then that are going to
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  Speaker 1: align with Kevin's view of things. And I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: it's going to work out well long term, but we'll see. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's certainly a possibility. All right, we got a minute
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  Speaker 1: left in this segment. Because we ran long in the
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  Speaker 1: last one. So what does this all mean to Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, as I expressed to you a bit
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  Speaker 2: off air, you know, this kind of exposes kind of
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  Speaker 2: the JD. Vance new right conservative mission and principles versus
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  Speaker 2: the kind of Reagan Revolution, Mike Pence and kind of
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  Speaker 2: establishment that's going to have a face in Florida as
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  Speaker 2: we continue to move forward, not just in twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: but also looking into who really becomes the standard bearer
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  Speaker 2: for the conservative movement for twenty twenty eight, and you've
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  Speaker 2: got folks saying whether it should be JD. Vance or
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  Speaker 2: Marco Rubio. And then back to the question, what does
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  Speaker 2: the future look like for Ronda Santis after twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven when he leaves the governor's mansion. He's only forty six,
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  Speaker 2: forty seven somewhere in that realm. See, young man, he's
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  Speaker 2: got a lifetime ahead of him.
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  Speaker 1: With Sal Newso of Consumers Defense here on the Morning Show. So,
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  Speaker 1: the legislative session starts a week from tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it begins on January thirteenth. A week from tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: lasts sixty days, or so they tell us. At least
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  Speaker 2: at this point, one requirement, as we say often pass
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  Speaker 2: a balanced budget. I believe we were one of forty
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  Speaker 2: eight or forty nine states that have them in the Constitution.
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  Speaker 2: But there will be a couple of thousand bills filed.
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  Speaker 2: There are particular processes and procedures and timelines that will
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  Speaker 2: go over next week as we begin diving into this,
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  Speaker 2: but the one that is relevant for this week is
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  Speaker 2: January seventh is the bill filing deadline for the House,
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  Speaker 2: So all non appropriations bills. If you're a member, you
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  Speaker 2: get six or seven slots to file bills that are
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  Speaker 2: not appropriations projects January seventh. This week is well is
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  Speaker 2: that tomorrow, no Wednesday. Wednesday is your deadline for getting
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  Speaker 2: that filed.
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  Speaker 1: What are the big questions?
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  Speaker 2: There are several, and I was kind of spending some
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  Speaker 2: time kind of unpacking where are we going to go
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  Speaker 2: over these eight weeks as we gather together on Mondays
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  Speaker 2: and begin analyzing this, and so first off is what
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  Speaker 2: does the relationship dynamic look like? After twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 2: there was a lot of raw emotion, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: political emotion spent up and we all saw it play out,
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  Speaker 2: even if you weren't paying attention to legislative affairs. It's
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  Speaker 2: something that got a lot of national headlines. What does
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  Speaker 2: it look like this coming year compared to last year?
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  Speaker 2: What I said earlier? Second, what is the governor thinking
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  Speaker 2: post twenty twenty six, post his eight year term and
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  Speaker 2: how does that translate into what he does politically and
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  Speaker 2: legislatively this session? And just as one example, the governor
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  Speaker 2: has been big on a push to do property tax
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  Speaker 2: elimination for homesteaded properties. He's been calling for that to
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  Speaker 2: be tackled in a special session. How does that look
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  Speaker 2: and does he try to push for it in the
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  Speaker 2: regular session because he's not as confident they'll do it
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  Speaker 2: in a special So something there. Third, what does the
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  Speaker 2: House do, in particular the House with Hope Florida? In
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, you had Alexandrade chairing a committee that
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  Speaker 2: really dove in and investigated some of the concerns that
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  Speaker 2: he had there. What does that continue to look like
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  Speaker 2: in this upcoming session?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Hope goes beyond the dessantus?
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  Speaker 2: It's a great question. I think if it does, it
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  Speaker 2: would have to be really reengineered in a way that
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  Speaker 2: I think is that's going to be a function of
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  Speaker 2: of the incoming administration in the governor's office, working with
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  Speaker 2: the incoming leadership in the House and sentive to try
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  Speaker 2: and make sense of the maza spaghetti that it's created.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a wonderful idea that needs some significant refinement.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again in full disclosure, I've got some tentacles
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  Speaker 2: not just professionally but personally into some of our safety
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  Speaker 2: net programs in the House, in the state rather and
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  Speaker 2: so I can speak to yes if hope Florida I
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  Speaker 2: think is going to become something that other states really
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  Speaker 2: want to emulate. And I think the intent is there.
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  Speaker 2: There does need to be some kind of figuring out
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  Speaker 2: of how it plugs into a lot of these other
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  Speaker 2: what does your intuition tell.
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  Speaker 1: You are going to be other significant issues.
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  Speaker 2: They've got to deal with a few, in particular the
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  Speaker 2: property tax issue, which we've been talking about, artificial intelligence
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  Speaker 2: a couple of months ago. We spent almost an entire
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  Speaker 2: hour or talking about that. You've got healthcare that's going
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  Speaker 2: to be the House Speaker's big priority. And if there
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  Speaker 2: is a word that will be coined as the word
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  Speaker 2: of the year for twenty twenty six, it will be affordability.
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  Speaker 2: That's nationally, they're going to have to figure out what
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  Speaker 2: their role is in things like housing costs and the
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  Speaker 2: continuing trends in the insurance market, education, the threats from
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  Speaker 2: foreign adversaries, and how the state kind of takes a
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  Speaker 2: leadership role in combating that, which we've been doing. So
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  Speaker 2: those are some of the big, big buckets that I
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  Speaker 2: think we're going to see some action in.
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  Speaker 1: I asked you in the break, do lawmakers have to
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  Speaker 1: define affordability before they start talking legislatively about it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it is an amazing question. The answer
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  Speaker 2: is absolutely. But I would also contend that they've got
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  Speaker 2: to define a bunch of these buckets better in order
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  Speaker 2: to make the sale in serch certain areas, and so,
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  Speaker 2: for example, on the affordability issue. It was something I
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  Speaker 2: mentioned to you offline. One of the challenges that we
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  Speaker 2: face is the professional left. The advocacy class that has
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  Speaker 2: been built up over the last twenty five years by
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  Speaker 2: folks like George Soros and others, has created this kind
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  Speaker 2: of advocacy class where they do this for a living.
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  Speaker 2: Republicans and Conservatives, we're managing the economy, we're building businesses,
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  Speaker 2: they're innovating, they're you know, they're so messaging is not
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  Speaker 2: always the primary focus when conservatives enter a policy debate,
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  Speaker 2: and it needs to be. And so, yes, defining affordability,
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  Speaker 2: defining artificial intelligence is going to be a big issue.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was going to ask, perfect segue the president's
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  Speaker 1: executive order on states not being allowed to do X,
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  Speaker 1: y and Z as it relates to AI. What does
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  Speaker 1: that do? Now?
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  Speaker 2: Well, honestly, there's an element of nobody really knows the
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  Speaker 2: force of specifics within some of these executive orders and
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  Speaker 2: whether or not abiding or not abiding. And this goes
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  Speaker 2: to really I hate to kind of throw the patriotic
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  Speaker 2: flag on but really the beauty of the framers when
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  Speaker 2: the system works according to the way that they designed it,
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  Speaker 2: which is, Congress passes the laws, the House of Representatives
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  Speaker 2: starts all the appropriations and budgeting pieces, the president's duties
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: are clearly defined here, and nobody strays off of their lane.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: It works well, It works better than any other system
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: of governance that history has seen. However, it's not completely
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: the case that an executive order should have the weight
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: of policy on other states, and so there's going to
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: be some figuring out on.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: This when it comes to the affordability issue. Obviously the
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: big one there is housing. Yeah, what can the legislature
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: do about it?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Well, a number of things. One is they've got they've
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: got carrots and sticks at their disposal, and those are
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: going to be in the forms of and I know
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: there in some years the words incentives have gotten a
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: bad rap, but I want us to think about this broadly,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: not just like tax incentives, but incentives to getting smaller,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: more affordable homes profitable with in development spaces, because that
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: is one of the big challenges where if a developer
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: has a bunch of space and the most profitable homes
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: are going to be eight hundred thousand and above, that's
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: a challenge. So how do you create this? And you
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: do this by zoning, by land use law, all of
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: these things that local governments have been kind of going
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: crazy with over the last couple of generations to establish
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of obstacles to actually getting smaller, more
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: affordable homes built. Those are the types of things where
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: the legislature can and likely will play a role in
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: how local governments kind of manage the types of homes
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: that are the most profitable to get built.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I think too often people assume affordability means cheap, and
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: affordability to me is we have to recognize that a
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: builder must make a profit because that's how a market
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: system works. And you create that by creating a marketplace,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: you create enough housing so that pricing can become more appropriate.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ultimately, at the end of the day, housing is
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: an economic good like anything else it is. It is
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: something that's going to be subject to the laws of
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: apply and demand. Now, over a period of twenty five years,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the state did a lot of things. Right. What they
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: got a little bit crazy with, mainly at the local level,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: is managed development. And so they created a whole ton
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: of land use restrictions and zoning laws and all of
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: these things, mainly at the local level, which restricted the
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: supply of smaller, more affordable, less expensive homes being built.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Now, which is mismanaged development.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Which is mismanaged development. Now you've got hundreds of thousands
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: of people, maybe even a couple million people migrating into
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the state looking to find homes the only things they
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: have available, or things are going to bid the price
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: up on yep. And that gets us into where we.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Are all right, and where we are now is counting
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: down seven days.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Monday of next week we kick off sixty days of
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: just fun and excitement. Can't wait to unpack all of
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: this with you.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I couldn't think of anybody better to guide us through
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the storm.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I mean I could, but you know that's that's that's
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: a smell.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: You kept it to yourself. Then yeah, yeah, no, we're good.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, appreciate it always all right, Sala News
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and with Consumer's Defense. He will be joining us on
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Monday and mostly Mondays through the session. There'll be a
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Tuesday thrown in here and there perhaps, But the legislative
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: session begins a week from tomorrow and we will be
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: ready for it, and we will keep you informed here
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: on the Morning Show with Preston Scott