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Tammy Hembrow & the Mystery Bicep · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news.
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Speaker 2: Twice a week. I'm Amy Torber and coming up on.
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Speaker 1: Today's show, Olivia Rogers' shock baby news, Sarah's Day's Black
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Speaker 1: Friday promo drama, Nadia Bartel's plans to grow her family
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Speaker 1: and our Friday influencer dump. But first, Tammy Hembrough's antics
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Speaker 1: following Showpo's 15th birthday event in Sydney have set tongues wagging.
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Speaker 2: Kate, can you tell us more?
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Speaker 1: So Tammy was filmed by paparazzi leaving the event with
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Speaker 1: an older gentleman who appears to be Sean Anderson. Now,
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Speaker 1: Sean is the CEO of the talent management company 22,
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Speaker 1: who recently signed Tammy to its books. He's also one
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Speaker 1: of Australia's best known talent managers. He made a name
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Speaker 1: for himself back in the day, managing Jennifer Hawkins when
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Speaker 1: she was crowned Miss Universe. And in this vision, they
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Speaker 1: look very cozy, don't they? So Sean's got his arm
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Speaker 1: around Tammy's shoulder and it almost looks like they're holding hands. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: his hand kind of lingers down to hold hers. And
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Speaker 1: it's kind of awkward because they're around other people waiting
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Speaker 1: for a taxi. Now, the video appeared on paparazzo Jaden
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Speaker 1: Seagrath's TikTok before it was very swiftly taken down, which
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Speaker 1: got people excited. questioning, oh, is he married? Now I
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Speaker 1: did some digging and it appears Sean is single. Back
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Speaker 1: in 2021, the Daily Telegraph reported that he and his
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Speaker 1: wife separated after 20 years of marriage. They have two
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Speaker 1: adult children together. I wonder what they think. It's quite
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Speaker 1: awkward because the search term Tammy Hembrough old man is
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Speaker 1: currently trending on TikTok. Yeah, I must admit when I
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Speaker 1: saw the vision, I was like, who the hell is
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Speaker 1: this guy and what on earth is going on? I mean,
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Speaker 1: playing devil's advocate, this could just be a friendship that
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Speaker 1: we're seeing. I mean, He is the CEO of the
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Speaker 1: talent management company Tammy works for. On Saturday night, Tammy
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Speaker 1: and her sisters attended the company's 22nd birthday event in Sydney.
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Speaker 1: So they've been hanging out a lot recently. I also
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Speaker 1: noticed Tammy showed some love on a post about Sean.
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Speaker 1: So one of the publicists who works for 22 Management
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Speaker 1: put up a post in the lead up to the
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Speaker 1: birthday praising Sean and Tammy Hembrough added love hearts under it. Look,
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Speaker 1: to me, this vision looked very flirty. It didn't look
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Speaker 1: like they were friends. And to add further intrigue, Back
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Speaker 1: in Tammy's hotel room after this event, she shared a
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Speaker 1: video of her lying in bed miming to the infamous
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Speaker 1: Mean Girls line, I can't go out, I'm sick. And
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Speaker 1: after she mimes to this, you see a man's muscly
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Speaker 1: arm reach into the shot and the anonymous man pulls
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Speaker 1: her into his bicep. I mean, this really is bicep gate.
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Speaker 1: People are like, who the hell is this? Is this
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Speaker 1: the old guy? I mean, not to age shame, but
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Speaker 1: I didn't look like an arm of an older gentleman.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if it is Sean Anderson, good on him.
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Speaker 1: You've clearly been hitting the gym. It was pretty funny
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Speaker 1: because Tammy was hanging out at this event with Indy
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Speaker 1: Clinton again. They are an iconic duo. They've actually added
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Speaker 1: to their mum's group, AIMS. What an inclusion. She is
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Speaker 1: an absolute legend. I love seeing the three of them
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Speaker 1: hanging out and filming TikToks. It's pretty funny because Indy
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Speaker 1: Clinton wrote under the video, Oh my effing God, I
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Speaker 1: have no one to talk about this with. Can I
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Speaker 1: call you? And Ames added, the way I gasp. Other
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Speaker 1: people weren't so happy about it. Another person wrote already,
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Speaker 1: to which Tammy replied, it's just a bicep. What does
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Speaker 1: she mean already? Hasn't she seen the news about Bailey Smith?
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Speaker 1: Could this be Bailey Smith's bicep? Well, talking about Bailey Smith,
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Speaker 1: one of our lovely listeners emailed us to let us
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Speaker 1: know that they spotted Bailey Smith on a plane to
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Speaker 1: the Gold Coast, potentially flying out to visit Tammy.
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Speaker 2: I'm excited for my bump.
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Speaker 3: Like I said, I've already got this Pinterest folder saved
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Speaker 3: of all the outfits I want to wear with my bump.
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Speaker 1: Olivia Rogers has announced she's expecting her first child with
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Speaker 1: boyfriend Hugo Brakey. The former Miss Universe contestant shared the
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Speaker 1: news on social media earlier this week and was inundated
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Speaker 1: with well wishes. The reaction online was almost as if
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Speaker 1: people had just found out their best friend was pregnant.
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Speaker 1: Everyone was just so genuinely happy for Olivia, which was
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Speaker 1: so nice to see. Yeah, and it makes a lot
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Speaker 1: of sense because Olivia has been so open about how
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Speaker 1: much she wants to be a mum. Yeah, it was
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Speaker 1: only a couple of years ago that she documented the
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Speaker 1: process of freezing her eggs, and following her divorce, she
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Speaker 1: shared that she was going through fertility treatment during her
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Speaker 1: marriage to Justin McKeon, which was very brave considering she
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Speaker 1: shared that It was actually part of the decision why
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Speaker 1: she decided to break up with him because she was
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Speaker 1: set to undergo a fertility procedure and realised the day
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Speaker 1: before going through with it that it just wasn't going
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Speaker 1: to work with Justin. She didn't want to have a
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Speaker 1: child with him. Yeah, because she said the thought of
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Speaker 1: having a baby with him made her feel really scared
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Speaker 1: when you should be feeling really excited and happy. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and as you said earlier, Olivia has been so open
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Speaker 1: about the fact that she is ready to be a mum.
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Speaker 1: She even spoke about the prospect of having a baby
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Speaker 1: on her own. So that is why everyone is just
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Speaker 1: absolutely thrilled about this news. I suppose it goes to
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Speaker 1: show you never know what's actually around the corner because
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Speaker 1: it was a year after Olivia made that statement that
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Speaker 1: she met Hugo. So they actually met in December of 2023.
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Speaker 1: when Hugo was at a Bucks show and they're set
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Speaker 1: to celebrate their second anniversary in a.
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Speaker 2: Few weeks' time.
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Speaker 1: God, time is just going so quickly because I was like,
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Speaker 1: I'm certain they've only been together for a year, but
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Speaker 1: it actually has been two, which blew my mind. I know.
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Speaker 2: How was it two years ago since she was dating
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Speaker 2: Morgan Waterhouse?
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Speaker 1: Well, it might have something to do with the fact
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Speaker 1: that she didn't go public with her relationship until June 2024,
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Speaker 1: six months into it. And that was off the back
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Speaker 1: of Olivia wanting to keep her relationships private after her
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Speaker 1: divorce from Justin McKeon. As you touched on, Amy, she
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Speaker 1: did hook up with Morgan Waterhouse.
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Speaker 2: Quite quickly after her divorce.
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Speaker 1: And quite publicly, but I feel like Morgan Waterhouse was
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Speaker 1: the one pushing to make that so public. Yeah, he
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Speaker 1: made quite a few public potshots at Olivia that I
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Speaker 1: thought were really out of line. And I feel like
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Speaker 1: him being such a douchebag during and after their relationship,
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Speaker 1: I think it made everyone like Hugo so much, even
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Speaker 1: though we'd really only seen a photo of him, like
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Speaker 1: for months, all that we knew of him was that
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Speaker 1: he kind of looked a bit like Justin McKeon. It
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Speaker 1: wasn't until September that... that Olivia dropped an interview with
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Speaker 1: Hugo and it was really in-depth and he seemed lovely.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Kate, I remember you mentioning that he seemed
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Speaker 1: like a real private school boy originally.
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Speaker 2: I think that's perfect for Olivia, let's be honest. Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: And if my math is correct, it must have been
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Speaker 1: around this time that they actually found out they were pregnant.
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Speaker 2: It is interesting timing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, from a PR perspective, Olivia probably thought, geez,
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Speaker 1: I really need to introduce this guy to my audience
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Speaker 1: because it's going to come as quite a shock if
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Speaker 1: I just suddenly say, oh, we're expecting a baby. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I've been very open about the fact that I've been
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Speaker 1: on Engagement Watch ever since this interview. I was predicting
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Speaker 1: an engagement in December, but this has really thrown me.
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Speaker 1: This was not on my bingo card. Well, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: thought you were on to something, especially when Olivia announced
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Speaker 1: that she and Hugo were moving into a bigger place.
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Speaker 1: But this is, of course, to accommodate for their baby. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: it seems like this move was put on fast track
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Speaker 1: because Olivia said that she didn't want to move when
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Speaker 1: she was heavily pregnant, which is obviously a good idea.
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Speaker 1: It seems like this was a real shock to Olivia
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Speaker 1: and Hugo because they Olivia was interviewed on her own
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Speaker 1: podcast this week after the news, and she said that
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Speaker 1: it came as a surprise because they actually weren't trying
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Speaker 1: to conceive. And she ended up taking a pregnancy test
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Speaker 1: after her period was a couple of days late. So
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Speaker 1: she found out at the four-week mark, which is very early.
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Speaker 1: You actually hear this happening quite often, especially in the
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Speaker 1: influencer world. Like Sarah's Day, she spoke about all of
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Speaker 1: her fertility issues. And then she had this surprise pregnancy
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Speaker 1: with Fox. I'm assuming that maybe they weren't taking as
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Speaker 1: many precautions because they thought, well, this is going to
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Speaker 1: be quite difficult for us to conceive.
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Speaker 2: And then they've had this amazing news.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Olivia actually opened up about the fact that she
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Speaker 1: was quite nervous to share the news because as you said,
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Speaker 1: she's been very open about her fertility struggles and she
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Speaker 1: felt like maybe it wouldn't be received that well, particularly
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Speaker 1: because she'd also lined up to have her fertility specialist
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Speaker 1: on the podcast to be interviewed. Well, I'm kind of
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Speaker 1: not surprised that that thought went through Olivia's mind because
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Speaker 1: other influencers have spoken in the past about how they've
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Speaker 1: been on a fertility journey and when they fall pregnant,
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Speaker 1: suddenly their audience doesn't relate to them anymore and they
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Speaker 1: almost turn on them. Yeah, well, there are a lot
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Speaker 1: of emotions involved in a topic like fertility. So it
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Speaker 1: is understandable that things can get emotional in that space. Well,
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Speaker 1: on the day of this interview, Olivia shared a video
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Speaker 1: on Instagram of her finding out that she was pregnant.
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Speaker 1: So she had hit record on her phone because she
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Speaker 1: thought that this pregnancy test was going to be one
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Speaker 1: of many negative tests. So she was very shocked to
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Speaker 1: actually discover that she was pregnant. Yeah, this was one
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Speaker 1: pregnancy video that you knew was 100% genuine. Like there
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Speaker 1: was no hamming it up. She was completely shocked. Like
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Speaker 1: her eyes were so wide. Apparently Hugo was in the
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Speaker 1: other bathroom and she had to call him in and
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Speaker 1: he was just not expecting it. But I loved his reaction.
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Speaker 1: You can tell he just has such a calming effect
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Speaker 1: on Olivia.
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Speaker 2: He's like, this is good news.
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Speaker 1: Well, even though Olivia and Hugo were obviously thrilled by
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Speaker 1: the news, She did admit on the podcast that they
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Speaker 1: were both rattled for a couple of weeks after. And
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Speaker 1: apparently when Olivia told her sister, her first reaction was
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Speaker 1: to ask how Hugo was because she knows exactly what
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Speaker 1: he's like. Yeah, Olivia spoke about how Hugo is a
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Speaker 1: real planner. And that was very evident in the podcast
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Speaker 1: interview he did with her because he works as a
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Speaker 1: management consultant and has a background in chemical engineering. So
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Speaker 1: his job is literally coming into businesses and making them
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Speaker 1: function better. And you can see he's really structured in
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Speaker 1: his approach. So Olivia said it's really thrown him that
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Speaker 1: this pregnancy wasn't planned. Apparently he's taken it in his
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Speaker 1: stride and has been listening to a parenting book to
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Speaker 1: prepare himself, which I thought was really sweet. There is
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Speaker 1: nothing cuter than when you see your husband reading a
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Speaker 1: parenting book. I remember seeing Dale read Dr. Golly and
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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, this is good. I do want
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Speaker 1: to commend Olivia on being so real when she was
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Speaker 1: talking about having mixed emotions when she found out she
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Speaker 1: was pregnant, because it's something a lot of us go through.
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Speaker 1: So She said that during the first two weeks she
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Speaker 1: felt so scared about her life changing because she loves
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Speaker 1: her life. And she also spoke about how she was
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Speaker 1: worried that having a baby would change her relationship with Hugo.
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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.
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Speaker 3: Nervousness also around I love my relationship with Hugo and
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Speaker 3: I have been like, oh my God, am I going
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Speaker 3: to burst the bubble with this? But I do think
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Speaker 3: from all of my close friends who have kids, they
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Speaker 3: have said if you've got any little niggles or things
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Speaker 3: that annoy you about the other person, it's like pouring
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Speaker 3: fuel on them And so they will be exacerbated. But equally,
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Speaker 3: if you're in a good relationship, it makes you feel
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Speaker 3: stronger and it gives you this bond that is like
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Speaker 3: nothing else. So I'm excited about that. I think it's
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Speaker 3: normal to feel nervous. Like I talk to my psych
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Speaker 3: a lot about it, nervous about whether or not I'm
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Speaker 3: going to be good at it. You know, being a
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Speaker 3: good parent, I think there's so much to learn.
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Speaker 1: I think that's a hard emotion for people to admit,
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Speaker 1: especially ones who've struggled to conceive, because you would have
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Speaker 1: running you.
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Speaker 2: Through your mind.
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Speaker 1: I have to be so grateful that this is such
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Speaker 1: exciting news, but it doesn't mean that Olivia isn't going.
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Speaker 2: To experience all of those things.
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Speaker 1: Like she will feel resentful at some stage that maybe
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Speaker 1: she is looking after the baby more or she will have,
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Speaker 1: you know, those pangs of missing her old life.
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Speaker 2: It's just normal.
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Speaker 1: Well, particularly when it wasn't something that was planned. We
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Speaker 1: heard Nikki Westcott share a similar sentiment on her podcast.
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Speaker 1: So it's nice that women feel comfortable enough to talk
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Speaker 1: about these things. I was keen to hear Olivia's thoughts
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Speaker 1: on the privacy around her baby because this is something
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Speaker 1: influencers have to really seriously consider. And she seemed a
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Speaker 1: bit apprehensive about sharing her baby's face online because She
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Speaker 1: said she wasn't really sure what she would do. And
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Speaker 1: one of her friends actually said to her, well, how
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Speaker 1: would you feel if your baby's face was shared on
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Speaker 1: the Daily Mail? And she was like, I actually wouldn't
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Speaker 1: like that at all. I wonder if that came off
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Speaker 1: the back of her ex-husband, Justin McKeon's birth announcement being
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Speaker 1: shared in the Daily Mail.
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Speaker 4: Maybe.
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Speaker 2: There's something about the Daily Mail.
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Speaker 1: Like it's, I think it's the comment section. That's the
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Speaker 1: big issue with it. The people on there are just
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Speaker 1: so vile.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, she did say that she potentially could change
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Speaker 1: her mind. I think a lot of people are swayed
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Speaker 1: when they see their baby and they're just so proud
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Speaker 1: and like, oh, I want to share them. So she
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Speaker 1: said she, you know, that could change. It's interesting because
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Speaker 1: she spoke about how she used to share her niece's
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Speaker 1: face online up until she was about two and went
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Speaker 1: to daycare. It seems like at the moment... the general
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Speaker 1: consensus with influencers is you don't show them at all
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Speaker 1: or you show them up to two. Have you noticed that? Recently,
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Speaker 1: Brooke Hogan did the same thing. And obviously Steph Clare Smith,
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Speaker 1: we've spoken a lot about how she stopped showing Harvey's
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Speaker 1: face when he was around three. It seems to be
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Speaker 1: the cutoff. It's really hard because I'm in that predicament
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Speaker 1: where I've shared my son's face on Instagram and it's
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Speaker 1: got to that point where I'm like, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I want to continue sharing it because you hear
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Speaker 1: of all these horror stories for.
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Speaker 2: You know, normal people.
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Speaker 1: Like it's, And it would be even worse if you
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Speaker 1: had this massive following because it would attract weirdos. Like,
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Speaker 1: unfortunately you have to consider like, where is this image
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Speaker 1: going to turn up?
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Speaker 2: What can be done to this image?
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Speaker 1: Is this safe to be putting these identifiable features out there? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I also found it fascinating that Olivia said she was
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Speaker 1: apprehensive about sharing about motherhood and pregnancy in general. And
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Speaker 1: she mentioned how she was so shocked at the backlash
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Speaker 1: that Laura Henshaw received after she shared that she wanted
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Speaker 1: to have an elective cesarean. Well, we actually touched on
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Speaker 1: that a few weeks ago. So if anyone wants to
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Speaker 1: hear our thoughts on it, we're pretty passionate about that topic. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because I mean, a lot of influencers, once they become mums,
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Speaker 1: that sort of becomes their niche and they.
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Speaker 2: Share about that.
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Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how Olivia's content changes.
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Speaker 1: And if it just becomes to a point, which I
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Speaker 1: think it will probably get to where motherhood is so encompassing.
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Speaker 1: And if your job is an influencer, you are going
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Speaker 1: to share about that process. I mean, you can do
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Speaker 1: it without sharing your baby's face. But there is a
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Speaker 1: lot of judgment, I suppose, that comes with that, that
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Speaker 1: she is probably wanting to avoid.
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Speaker 2: Okay, just back to your prediction.
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Speaker 1: You said that you had a feeling that Hugo might
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Speaker 1: propose on Christmas Day. Well, it seems like your spidey
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Speaker 1: senses were tingling for another reason. So this is a
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Speaker 1: pivotal date for them because Olivia revealed this is the
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Speaker 1: date they're going to find out the gender of their baby.
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Speaker 1: That must have been why I was thrown off. It's
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Speaker 1: pretty cute because Olivia said that She always thought she
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Speaker 1: wouldn't find out the gender, but because Hugo is such
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Speaker 1: a planner, he wants to know. So they've come up
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Speaker 1: with this compromise that they'll find out about the halfway
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Speaker 1: mark at 20 weeks, which is Christmas Day. I wonder
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Speaker 1: if they'll share the news with all of us on
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Speaker 1: Christmas Day or they'll keep it under wraps. Well, wasn't
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Speaker 1: it Christmas Day or maybe it was Boxing Day where
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Speaker 1: Olivia a few years ago shared the Olivia edit of
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Speaker 1: her wedding video? So I wouldn't be surprised if they
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Speaker 1: dropped the news. Can we have a prediction? Do you
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Speaker 1: think girl or boy?
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go girl. Yeah, I was going to
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Speaker 2: say everyone.
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Speaker 1: Seems to be having boys that is in our life
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Speaker 1: at the moment, but I also have a strong feeling
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Speaker 1: it's going to.
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Speaker 2: Be a girl. I'm not happy about this. We need
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Speaker 2: to talk.
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Speaker 1: Sarah's Day has been accused of misleading her audience following
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Speaker 1: the launch of her Black Friday sale. The OG fitness
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Speaker 1: influencer shared her postpartum transformation.
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Speaker 2: In a video that has now gone viral.
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Speaker 1: The ad left people questioning whether the transformation featured was
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Speaker 1: a result from her much-hyped 60-day challenge. I can see
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Speaker 1: why there was some confusion because Sarah has spoken a
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Speaker 1: lot about this challenge on her social media and she's
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Speaker 1: really been targeting it towards postpartum mums like herself. And
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Speaker 1: the video started off with Sarah showing a close-up of
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Speaker 1: her freshly postpartum stomach and in the vision she squeezed
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Speaker 1: and squished the loose skin together and And text then
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Speaker 1: appeared on the screen that said loading transformation. It then
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Speaker 1: transitioned to a shot of Sarah showing off her very
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Speaker 1: toned abs in the mirror.
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Speaker 2: Now this was a full on.
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Speaker 1: Body check like she used to do back in the day.
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Speaker 1: It looked like she was really sucking in and positioning
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Speaker 1: her body in the most flattering angle possible. And text
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Speaker 1: appeared on the screen that said up to 30% off
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Speaker 1: workout programs. Now in the caption, she wrote up to 30%
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Speaker 1: off workout programs, including body and bump, pregnancy guide, restore
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Speaker 1: postpartum guide, sweat it to shred it, home workout guide,
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Speaker 1: and the entire sweat it series. Now, Sarah's 560 challenge
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Speaker 1: is actually the only challenge that's not on sale. However,
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of confusion around the video. Someone wrote, wow,
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Speaker 1: is this the start of your 60 day challenge? To
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Speaker 1: which Sarah responded, this is after my third baby. Then
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Speaker 1: another one of her followers chimed in saying, it almost
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Speaker 1: appears from the way it is edited to insinuate it
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Speaker 1: is from the start of the challenge. I think transparency
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Speaker 1: is needed telling audiences exactly how many days, etc. postpartum
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Speaker 1: those clips were taken as there are some natural looseness
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Speaker 1: and elasticity that takes some time to return immediately after birth.
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Speaker 1: There's no denying you're an absolute machine who works very
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Speaker 1: hard and intentionally, but I think that transparency is key.
16:19
Speaker 1: Now that comment got 54 likes and Sarah did not
16:21
Speaker 1: reply to it. I'm actually surprised that that comment is
16:24
Speaker 1: still on there because most of the time comments like
16:26
Speaker 1: that get swiftly deleted by Sarah. I mean, for full transparency,
16:30
Speaker 1: there were a lot of people who claimed that they
16:32
Speaker 1: were inspired by it. But to be perfectly honest, it
16:35
Speaker 1: made me feel a little bit sad because these were
16:37
Speaker 1: women who were postpartum and looking for hope. So someone wrote, wow,
16:41
Speaker 1: so inspiring. I'm currently three weeks in with my third
16:45
Speaker 1: baby who might be colicky too. And having this loose
16:47
Speaker 1: belly skin, it gives me hope. Someone else added, man,
16:50
Speaker 1: I wish I had as much discipline as you. And
16:52
Speaker 1: someone else wrote, please adopt me as your mentor and
16:55
Speaker 1: teach me the MILF ways. I mean, there's no denying
16:58
Speaker 1: that Sarah looks bloody amazing, but I think what people
17:00
Speaker 1: need to remember is one, she is a fitness influencer. Two,
17:04
Speaker 1: she is trying to push a guide. And three, everyone's
17:06
Speaker 1: bodies are different. So even if you were to do
17:09
Speaker 1: all of these workout plans, you may still.
17:11
Speaker 2: Not have Sarah's abs.
17:13
Speaker 1: And the most disturbing thing, as you mentioned, Kate, is
17:15
Speaker 1: this is being pushed to really vulnerable postpartum women who
17:18
Speaker 1: are feeling shit about themselves.
17:19
Speaker 3: Yeah.
17:20
Speaker 1: Well, there was a Reddit thread about this promotion and
17:23
Speaker 1: some women shared how it made them feel. One woman wrote,
17:26
Speaker 1: I am nine months postpartum and have loose skin, extra
17:28
Speaker 1: weight and a birth injury. I'm still rehabbing. If I
17:31
Speaker 1: wasn't in therapy and surrounded by people who are loving, encouraging,
17:34
Speaker 1: I would be so torn up if I saw this.
17:36
Speaker 1: And another woman wrote, I unfortunately bought the postpartum workout guide.
17:40
Speaker 1: I used to blindly follow her. And then while trying
17:42
Speaker 1: to recover, I was doing these whack exercises that didn't
17:45
Speaker 1: slowly increase intensity and and cause many issues both physically
17:48
Speaker 1: and mentally. In a low time in life, I thought
17:50
Speaker 1: if I did the program, I would look like her
17:53
Speaker 1: and be fixed. Since getting correct help both physically and mentally,
17:57
Speaker 1: I've learned how toxic Sarah is. Now, Amy, you are
18:00
Speaker 1: seven months postpartum. How does this type of content make
18:03
Speaker 1: you feel? To be honest, when I see content like this,
18:06
Speaker 1: I do sometimes look at it and go, wow, that
18:07
Speaker 1: is actually very inspiring.
18:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, but has it inspired you to do a workout?
18:11
Speaker 1: No, but that's more of a time factor. Well, that's
18:15
Speaker 1: the thing it is. You go, oh, I'd love to
18:17
Speaker 1: have my body look like that. But actually in reality,
18:20
Speaker 1: I don't have time. I probably am never going to
18:22
Speaker 1: look like that. But does that make you think, oh, well, Sarah,
18:24
Speaker 1: she's got three children and she looks like that. You know,
18:27
Speaker 1: it makes me feel bad that I'm not doing enough.
18:29
Speaker 1: It's definitely that content where you go like fuck off,
18:31
Speaker 1: like as if you look like that. And then it
18:33
Speaker 1: does in turn make you feel pretty shitty. And then
18:37
Speaker 1: the other thing is then you think, well, should I
18:39
Speaker 1: buy this? Because it's almost like you're buying a dream.
18:41
Speaker 1: You're buying hope that you will actually– Maybe look like that.
18:46
Speaker 1: And that is the problem with this because there's no
18:50
Speaker 1: nuance there. It's quite misleading in saying, okay, well, I
18:53
Speaker 1: look like this and now I look like this. So
18:54
Speaker 1: buy my workout guide. And there's no acknowledgement about the
18:57
Speaker 1: fact that, well, Sarah is an incredibly wealthy businesswoman who
19:02
Speaker 1: potentially has a nanny. I mean, she's been open about
19:04
Speaker 1: the fact that she has a professional babysitter there quite
19:07
Speaker 1: often to help her with work. It's also a part
19:09
Speaker 1: of her job to look like that in order to
19:11
Speaker 1: sell these workout guides. So when she you know, carves
19:14
Speaker 1: out time to do work, it is working out. So
19:17
Speaker 1: there are a lot of parts to the story that
19:19
Speaker 1: are not reflected in this promotion. And I do think
19:23
Speaker 1: it's misleading. And I feel for impressionable postpartum women who
19:27
Speaker 1: are being targeted like this to essentially, to at the
19:30
Speaker 1: end of the day, make money. And a lot of it,
19:33
Speaker 1: you know, this guide has sold over 2000 copies.
19:37
Speaker 2: It's made Sarah over $ 300, 000 in revenue.
19:41
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money we're talking about. I'd love
19:43
Speaker 1: to hear from people that have done it. I mean,
19:45
Speaker 1: notice in Sarah's marketing, she doesn't use before and after photos.
19:48
Speaker 1: That was something Kayla Estinas did. back in the day.
19:51
Speaker 1: She solely just relies on how her body looks, but
19:54
Speaker 1: does this actually work for other people's bodies? That's what
19:56
Speaker 1: I would like to know. Well, I wonder if Sarah
19:58
Speaker 1: is even still taking part in the 60 day challenge
20:00
Speaker 1: because a big part of the marketing was that you
20:02
Speaker 1: were doing this challenge with Sarah, but after doing a
20:05
Speaker 1: couple of workouts, it's completely dropped off.
20:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, once the sales have gone through.
20:09
Speaker 1: The thing I find crazy about some of these influencer
20:11
Speaker 1: workout guides is, for example, with this one, Sarah made
20:14
Speaker 1: it pretty clear that these exercises aren't what she does
20:17
Speaker 1: all the time. So the body she currently has isn't
20:19
Speaker 1: from doing these workouts. It's from doing other things like
20:22
Speaker 1: Pilates and going to the gym. Well, and she has
20:24
Speaker 1: a personal trainer as well. Yeah, but then we're being
20:25
Speaker 1: sold like, oh, if you do this, you're going to
20:27
Speaker 1: look like Sarah. Well, no, because Sarah looks like Sarah
20:29
Speaker 1: because she's done X, Y, and Z. She hasn't just
20:31
Speaker 1: been doing this guide. On the topic of Sarah, it's
20:34
Speaker 1: pretty interesting because earlier this week, news.com.au published an article
20:38
Speaker 1: about Hyro, which is the electrolyte company that she invested
20:41
Speaker 1: in and has been heavily promoting. And it spoke about
20:44
Speaker 1: how Hyro is becoming a multi-million dollar company. So according
20:48
Speaker 1: to the co-owner, Steve Chapman, who was interviewed, the company's
20:52
Speaker 1: collaboration with Sarah's Day and others have actually propelled the
20:55
Speaker 1: product forward to be on track to do well north
20:58
Speaker 1: of $ 10 million in yearly revenue for 2026. Now, Steve
21:03
Speaker 1: went on to say that when they launched their collaboration
21:05
Speaker 1: with Sarah, they did multiple six-figure days, which were their
21:09
Speaker 1: biggest days by far at the time. However, he's expecting
21:12
Speaker 1: to beat it this Black Friday. Now, in saying that,
21:16
Speaker 1: prior to the Black Friday sales, Sarah's Hyro flavor was
21:19
Speaker 1: actually being sold for half the price, despite originally the
21:23
Speaker 1: company sparking fears that it would instantly sell out back
21:26
Speaker 1: in August off the back of their campaign. Whenever I
21:29
Speaker 1: see figures like this mentioned in news articles, I always
21:33
Speaker 1: take them with a grain of salt because it's good
21:35
Speaker 1: for Hyro to be quoting these type of figures. We
21:38
Speaker 1: haven't actually seen any proof that they've made that money,
21:41
Speaker 1: not to say they haven't, but They want to get
21:43
Speaker 1: back on their investment with Sarah's Day. So by promoting
21:46
Speaker 1: their business as earning X amount, they're going to get
21:49
Speaker 1: more investors on board and there's going to be more
21:50
Speaker 1: interest in this business. Well, they've been pretty open about
21:53
Speaker 1: the fact that they're looking for investors. Their plan over
21:55
Speaker 1: the next five years is to build the business into
21:57
Speaker 1: a $ 100 million company. So that's exactly what they're doing
22:01
Speaker 1: with this PR. But I mean, when you zoom out
22:03
Speaker 1: and look at the full picture and the reality is
22:05
Speaker 1: that they didn't sell as well as they thought for
22:07
Speaker 1: Sarah's collaboration because they've been flogging it off for 50%
22:10
Speaker 1: off before Black Friday. Now let's get into our Friday
22:13
Speaker 1: influencer dump and we're going to kick things off with
22:16
Speaker 1: Nadia Bartel, one of my favorites.
22:18
Speaker 2: So she has.
22:19
Speaker 1: Opened up about plans to grow her family and this
22:22
Speaker 1: is with her long-term boyfriend, Peter Dugmore. So the 40-year-old
22:26
Speaker 1: told the Stella podcast the couple have undergone the process
22:29
Speaker 1: of freezing embryos.
22:30
Speaker 2: And would like to start trying to conceive this year.
22:32
Speaker 1: I can't believe she's 40.
22:34
Speaker 2: It blows my mind.
22:35
Speaker 1: When Bec Judd turned 40, it kind of took me
22:37
Speaker 1: back because I I just think of her back in
22:39
Speaker 1: the day when she was 21 on the red carpet
22:42
Speaker 1: in that red dress at the Brownlow. It's crazy to
22:44
Speaker 1: think that Nadia and Beck have been in the public
22:47
Speaker 1: eye for so long now.
22:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it makes you realize.
22:49
Speaker 1: That 40 is not old at all. Now, Nadia went
22:52
Speaker 1: on to tell Stella that the plan is for them
22:54
Speaker 1: to try and conceive naturally, but it is comforting to
22:57
Speaker 1: know that they've got the embryos as well. Yeah, well,
22:59
Speaker 1: Nadia already has two sons with her ex, Jimmy Bartell.
23:03
Speaker 1: a seven-year-old and a 10-year-old who are very cute. One
23:06
Speaker 1: of them looks exactly like Jimmy Bartell, which would be really–
23:09
Speaker 1: I always thought, would that be difficult for Nadia to
23:11
Speaker 1: be constantly reminded of her ex-husband who cheated on her?
23:14
Speaker 1: I mean, poor kid.
23:15
Speaker 2: It's not his fault.
23:16
Speaker 1: I know.
23:16
Speaker 2: I feel like it would be pretty shit.
23:18
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw these rumours, Kate, in September,
23:20
Speaker 1: but a lot of people thought that Nadia– and Peter
23:22
Speaker 1: had got engaged. And this was because she was seen
23:24
Speaker 1: leaving a Melbourne bridal store with a big dress bag.
23:28
Speaker 1: But the rumors were squashed the next day when she
23:30
Speaker 1: appeared at a charity event in this designer's outfit. But
23:34
Speaker 1: this was off the back of her telling the Daily
23:36
Speaker 1: Mail that Peter was the one.
23:37
Speaker 2: So a lot of people are like, oh my God,
23:38
Speaker 2: they must be getting married.
23:40
Speaker 1: I would love to see Nadia Bartel get married again.
23:42
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with her look when she got married
23:44
Speaker 1: to Jimmy Bartel. But I think from a style sense,
23:46
Speaker 1: she's even gone up a notch, particularly since she's launched
23:49
Speaker 1: her very successful clothing brand Henny. So it'd be so
23:52
Speaker 1: interesting to see what she did with her look, the bridesmaids,
23:55
Speaker 1: all of the styling of the event. Yeah, I would
23:57
Speaker 1: definitely love to see it. She was actually quizzed by
23:59
Speaker 1: the Daily Mail this month about a potential wedding. And
24:02
Speaker 1: she told them, I'd rather be with someone that respects.
24:05
Speaker 2: Me and cares about me than get married again. Clearly
24:08
Speaker 2: a subtle swipe at Jimmy.
24:11
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're planning on having a baby together...
24:14
Speaker 1: I would imagine that a wedding may be on the cards.
24:17
Speaker 1: Perhaps she's just waiting for Peter to propose. I didn't
24:21
Speaker 1: actually know that much about Peter. So I did a
24:23
Speaker 1: deep dive and he used to play football and he's
24:26
Speaker 1: now a model. So he's actually super hot. And he
24:29
Speaker 1: slid into Nadia's DMs in 2022. And Nadia said in
24:32
Speaker 1: this interview that she didn't normally respond to private messages
24:35
Speaker 1: on Instagram, especially from people she didn't know. But she
24:38
Speaker 1: made an exception because Peter looked really nice on his
24:41
Speaker 1: Instagram and And he also didn't have too many photos
24:43
Speaker 1: of himself. Oh, that is always a good sign. I mean,
24:46
Speaker 1: no photo with a fish, tick. Not too many selfies, tick. Amy,
24:50
Speaker 1: when you mentioned that Peter played football, I was like,
24:52
Speaker 1: did he? So I quickly did a live Google while
24:54
Speaker 1: you were talking. It wasn't at an AFL level. It
24:57
Speaker 1: seems more of a local level, potentially VFL.
25:00
Speaker 2: I think that's even more appealing, to be honest.
25:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the VFL players actually have to have jobs
25:05
Speaker 1: outside of footy. So they seem to be more well-rounded
25:09
Speaker 1: and normal, more normal. Millie Court is reportedly set to
25:13
Speaker 1: join the new series of Love Island All Stars UK.
25:17
Speaker 1: The 29-year-old, who won the 2021 season with former boyfriend Liam,
25:21
Speaker 1: is set to enter the villa.
25:23
Speaker 2: When the show starts in January.
25:25
Speaker 1: What makes this extra juicy is the fact that Millie
25:27
Speaker 1: and Liam only broke up in September this year. And
25:30
Speaker 1: it's not the first time they've broken up. So a
25:33
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, they broke up and got back together. Now,
25:37
Speaker 1: after the most recent breakup, it was widely tipped that
25:40
Speaker 1: Liam would join the All-Star Series. Now that Millie has
25:43
Speaker 1: been named as a contestant, people are even more certain
25:47
Speaker 1: we're going to see both of them on the show. Well,
25:49
Speaker 1: Millie really opened up on her YouTube recently, and she
25:52
Speaker 1: said that she was keen to settle down and spoke
25:54
Speaker 1: about her fears of being left behind. Let's have a
25:57
Speaker 1: listen to what she said.
25:59
Speaker 4: I feel like as you get older, it's only natural
26:02
Speaker 4: that you start to feel like your time's running out.
26:07
Speaker 4: And I feel like especially at my age now, I
26:10
Speaker 4: have friends who are engaged. I have a friend who
26:15
Speaker 4: is married, like my best friends who I've been friends.
26:18
Speaker 2: With for nearly 10 years, whatever.
26:20
Speaker 4: I only actually have one other friend who is single.
26:27
Speaker 1: I think if Millie and Liam enter the villa this year,
26:29
Speaker 1: it is going to be an unmissable series because neither
26:32
Speaker 1: of them will hold back. They've also got the history
26:35
Speaker 1: of being on a podcast together where they've had other
26:37
Speaker 1: Love Island contestants on. So it's going to be even
26:41
Speaker 1: more awkward if one starts hooking up with one of
26:43
Speaker 1: the contestants that they both know. I wonder if Millie
26:47
Speaker 1: has spoken to the producers and said, look, I'll be
26:49
Speaker 1: on the show if Liam's not on it because I
26:53
Speaker 1: know that's happened in the past. Ek and Sue had
26:55
Speaker 1: it in a contract that Davide couldn't be on it.
26:57
Speaker 1: I'm hoping they haven't agreed to it because it's just
26:59
Speaker 1: fucking boring unless they put the X back in. A
27:01
Speaker 1: lot of people were actually saying, well, I don't want
27:03
Speaker 1: to watch it this year because the show is just
27:05
Speaker 1: going to turn into X on the beach. I mean,
27:07
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're talking about. Like turn it
27:09
Speaker 1: more into X on the beach. Put more of their
27:12
Speaker 1: Xs in. Yeah, I mean, one of the appealing things
27:13
Speaker 1: about the All-Star Series is that we know behind the
27:16
Speaker 1: scenes all the contestants from different series have hooked up
27:19
Speaker 1: and they all know each other and they're all connected somehow.
27:23
Speaker 1: And then we get to see how that unfolds on screen.
27:26
Speaker 1: Former block contestants turned business moguls, Alyssa and Lysandra were
27:30
Speaker 1: involved in an awkward exchange on the YouBeauty podcast. So
27:34
Speaker 1: the twins were being interviewed about their $ 32 million business
27:37
Speaker 1: empire alive, as.
27:39
Speaker 2: Well as their time on the block.
27:40
Speaker 1: When mid-interview, the host confessed she only just realized they
27:44
Speaker 1: were twins.
27:45
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen.
27:46
Speaker 4: When I was four, I reckon she kicked a It's
27:49
Speaker 4: either she kicked me in mum's womb. Four. You guys
27:51
Speaker 4: have no need to.
27:52
Speaker 1: Oh, you sister.
27:53
Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
27:53
Speaker 2: We're fucking twins. That is so funny. That is so funny.
28:00
Speaker 4: Do you know, I actually.
28:01
Speaker 2: Were you not sitting there going, oh, they at least
28:04
Speaker 2: look like sisters? I was like, they look very similar.
28:07
Speaker 4: And earlier when we were talking about that, I was like, oh,
28:10
Speaker 4: they've both.
28:11
Speaker 2: Got such beautiful eyes. I just thought you were really close.
28:17
Speaker 3: Yeah.
28:19
Speaker 1: I feel like I look like heaps of my friends.
28:22
Speaker 2: No, I do get that. That's true. You're identical, are you?
28:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, we are. Oh. Yeah.
28:27
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
28:29
Speaker 4: That's why I was just like best friends that just
28:30
Speaker 4: somehow ended up in the same. Oh, wow.
28:35
Speaker 2: And you said we're both 41.
28:36
Speaker 1: Yeah.
28:38
Speaker 2: So that also, I was like, oh, see, besties.
28:41
Speaker 4: Or twins.
28:42
Speaker 1: Or twins.
28:43
Speaker 2: Not born from the same womb on the same day.
28:47
Speaker 1: I was pretty shocked when I saw this clip on
28:49
Speaker 1: social media. I was like, oh my God. It's pretty
28:51
Speaker 1: common knowledge that Lysandra and Alyssa are twins.
28:55
Speaker 2: I mean, they were known as the twins from the block.
28:58
Speaker 2: How do you miss that?
28:59
Speaker 1: And the fact that they look identical. I mean, I
29:01
Speaker 1: know they've got different hairstyles, but come on. And throughout
29:04
Speaker 1: the interview, they were finishing one another's sentences. They even
29:07
Speaker 1: both said that they were 41.
29:09
Speaker 4: Yeah.
29:09
Speaker 1: Well, she goes, oh, I just thought you guys were friends.
29:11
Speaker 1: You know, friends are usually the same age.
29:13
Speaker 2: One of them was like, we're fucking twins.
29:17
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, they actually ended up cutting this segment from
29:20
Speaker 1: the podcast episode, but I suppose the producers probably saw
29:23
Speaker 1: how hilarious it was and thought this is going to
29:25
Speaker 1: go viral. So they kind of threw the host under
29:27
Speaker 1: the bus there, but she was getting amongst the comments
29:30
Speaker 1: and laughing at herself.
29:31
Speaker 2: I mean, that's all you could do because it was
29:33
Speaker 2: pretty embarrassing.
29:33
Speaker 1: This reminds me, this is like a humble brag of
29:35
Speaker 1: when we met Taylor Swift and she was like, so
29:38
Speaker 1: how do you guys know each other?
29:39
Speaker 2: And they're like, Taylor, they're clearly sisters.
29:44
Speaker 1: In saying that, I'm going to put my hand up
29:45
Speaker 1: and say we often get people's names wrong on this podcast.
29:48
Speaker 1: I would hope if we were interviewing them, we would
29:50
Speaker 1: know a bit more about them though. But yeah, we're
29:53
Speaker 1: not perfect.
29:54
Speaker 2: I was hoping if I saw them in person, I'd
29:55
Speaker 2: realize they were twins. It's pretty obvious.
30:00
Speaker 1: Anyway, I think that's all we've got time for today.
30:02
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