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Ep. 1009: Foundations - E-Scouting Mistakes That Could Cost You a Big Buck This Season · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
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  Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
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  Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Wire to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
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  Speaker 2: which is brought to you by First Light. I'm your
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  Speaker 2: house Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about the
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  Speaker 2: scouting and how you should approach it during the off
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  Speaker 2: season to have your best chance of killing a big
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  Speaker 2: deer this fall about I kind of believe that there
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  Speaker 2: are like two tactics in the way tail hunting space
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  Speaker 2: that sort of exist in a weird vacuum where they're
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  Speaker 2: pretty well known and talked about quite a bit and
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  Speaker 2: then sort of not put into practice in.
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  Speaker 3: The real world by very many people.
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  Speaker 2: The first is dark to dark sits, which everyone knows
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  Speaker 2: is a great rut strategy, but most folks just can't
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  Speaker 2: seem to quite pull them off.
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  Speaker 3: And the other is E scouting.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm not talking about just like pulling up on
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  Speaker 2: X to look at it every once in a while,
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  Speaker 2: but intentionally East scouting and then putting that work to
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  Speaker 2: use in the field in order to actually make the
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  Speaker 2: most of it.
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  Speaker 3: Now, that might be the most overlooked.
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  Speaker 2: And underappreciated big buck strategy out there, and it's something
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to break down right now.
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  Speaker 3: Here at meat Eater.
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  Speaker 2: We have a lot of folks who couldn't make a
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  Speaker 2: piece of compelling and interesting content at gunpoint, but who
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  Speaker 2: also happen to be in charge of decisions around content.
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  Speaker 2: I've encountered this my whole career in the outdoors, and
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  Speaker 2: it's one of the more frustrating aspects of doing what
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  Speaker 2: folks like me do. But it's also true that the
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  Speaker 2: people who make interesting and compelling content that the audience
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  Speaker 2: wants to consume are also the kind of people who
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  Speaker 2: generally don't understand how businesses work and what it takes
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  Speaker 2: to keep the lights on or in many cases, usher
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  Speaker 2: forth that unrelenting growth that's now the standard of success
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  Speaker 2: in so many different companies. As much as it pains
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  Speaker 2: my creative heart to say this, without those folks, I'd
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  Speaker 2: be under a bridge giving white tail seminars to stray cats.
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  Speaker 2: Those two types of roles, you know, those two types
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  Speaker 2: of personalities, seemed like they'd clash, but they mostly live
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  Speaker 2: in a roughly harmonious world where both sides believe the
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  Speaker 2: other sucks and wouldn't exist without their amazing contributions, and
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  Speaker 2: they are both right and in that vein, we recently
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  Speaker 2: got some insight into what you find folks think about us,
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  Speaker 2: and it didn't surprise me at all.
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  Speaker 3: It was valuable because sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: The audience straight tells you what they want, which makes
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  Speaker 2: my job easier, even if it kills my hopes and
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  Speaker 2: dreams that I, too, someday will get sent to Hawaii
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  Speaker 2: to do one of those really challenging access deer hunts
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  Speaker 2: that are so common amongst hunting influencers now all vacation
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  Speaker 2: hunt jokes aside. One piece of intel we got was
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of old the whitetail hunters who follow
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  Speaker 2: our stuff want more tactical content, and one of the
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  Speaker 2: topics that came up pretty frequently was e scouting. And
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  Speaker 2: when I heard that, I wasn't really surprised, but I
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  Speaker 2: also didn't give it much thought, at least not until
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  Speaker 2: I was toting my little over under twenty gage around
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  Speaker 2: and looking for a cottontail while covering some miles on
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  Speaker 2: public land in Western and it occurred to me that
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  Speaker 2: e scouting is just one of those topics that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get a lot of love from the big names and
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  Speaker 2: white tails, and well, duh, why would it. E scouting
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  Speaker 2: or any scouting really is not only an attempt to
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  Speaker 2: find deer and often big bucks, but also figure out
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  Speaker 2: what those big bucks like to do so that we
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  Speaker 2: can use that information to our advantage and kill them.
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  Speaker 2: It's simple stuff, really, but a lot of the platforms
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  Speaker 2: that cover deer hunting come from situations where it is
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  Speaker 2: already a given that not only will the big bucks
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  Speaker 2: already be there in a predictable location, but they'll also
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  Speaker 2: do predictable stuff. That kind of negates most of the
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  Speaker 2: need to scout too hard, especially with the availability of
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  Speaker 2: cheap cell cameras these days. Now, you don't need to
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  Speaker 2: find a rub line deep in the cover if on
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  Speaker 2: the edge of that cover is a series of perfectly
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  Speaker 2: groomed food blots, and the ground in which both that
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  Speaker 2: thick cover and that curated food source exists is a
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  Speaker 2: world where very few people have a legal option to
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  Speaker 2: set foot on the place. Now, if that place happens
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  Speaker 2: to be pretty good size, say at least I don't
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  Speaker 2: know one hundred acres or so. Now, the variables that
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  Speaker 2: scouting tends to solve for are already sort of solved for.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't meant to say that ES scouting isn't something
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  Speaker 2: worth considering if you have private ground, or you dabble
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  Speaker 2: in the food plat game, or you just generally have
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  Speaker 2: a pretty sweet deer setup. But the real question is
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  Speaker 2: do you struggle to find big bucks? Now, if you
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  Speaker 2: listen to me talk a fair amount, you probably do.
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  Speaker 2: And in that case, understanding EAT scouting is a huge
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  Speaker 2: component to getting better at deer hunting, not only for
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  Speaker 2: your home ground but anywhere you might roam in search
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  Speaker 2: of a little white tail hunting adventure. So aside from
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  Speaker 2: the big mistake of not ES scouting at all, the
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  Speaker 2: real problem is looking at ES scouting as if it's
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  Speaker 2: a means to understand deer behavior. First, it's not. It's
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  Speaker 2: a means to understand the ground. Think about it this way.
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  Speaker 2: Think about it this way. Picture a nice bluff over
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  Speaker 2: the Mississippi River or maybe the Missouri or some other
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  Speaker 2: great big river winding its way through a deep valley
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  Speaker 2: somewhere with any elevation change like that your primary travel
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  Speaker 2: routes should be on top where the walking is easy,
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  Speaker 2: or way on the bottom where things level out and
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  Speaker 2: the walking is easy. Now, if you've hunted bluffs at all,
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  Speaker 2: you know that both types of travel happen often. But
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  Speaker 2: side hilling isn't something that bucks avoid. They go where
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  Speaker 2: they go for reasons that we can sort of learn. Now,
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  Speaker 2: imagine that same bluffy hillside, but there's an old logging
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  Speaker 2: road carved into it, or maybe a series of benches
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  Speaker 2: where the hill just sort of flattens out in smaller areas,
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  Speaker 2: but all kind of in rough succession. The options for
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  Speaker 2: deer travel in one single spot like that are many,
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  Speaker 2: and what you need to do is understand not where
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  Speaker 2: all of the deer like to walk, but where a
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  Speaker 2: buck is likely to walk and when he's most likely
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  Speaker 2: to do that. In daylight, you know the easiest access
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  Speaker 2: is on the top or the bottom, and instinctively want
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  Speaker 2: to check those routes for trails and for sign for
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  Speaker 2: everything else.
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  Speaker 3: But you also know that if you know the.
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  Speaker 2: Access is easiest in those two locations, the hunting pressure
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  Speaker 2: is likely to be higher on those routes, So maybe
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  Speaker 2: the bucks don't take those easy trails, and they tend
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  Speaker 2: to traverse the middle of the bluff somewhere. You have
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  Speaker 2: no choice but to get out there and look for rubs,
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  Speaker 2: you know, look for that great, big lone bed tucked
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  Speaker 2: up on a deadfall on one of those benches, and
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  Speaker 2: just try to see for yourself what clues last year's
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  Speaker 2: bucks left for you. Now you might be also wondering
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  Speaker 2: what the hell this has to do with EA scouting. Well,
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  Speaker 2: think about how many locations just like that are on
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  Speaker 2: the properties that you like to hunt. The variables are
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  Speaker 2: kind of endless, and the ways in which deer versus
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  Speaker 2: big bucks used the ground are almost endless. It's not
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  Speaker 2: enough to just e scout generally, you know, decide that
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  Speaker 2: a certain bluff is the ticket for air a cruiser
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  Speaker 2: during the pre rut, because even on that one hillside
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  Speaker 2: in the Midwest somewhere, you might have five or six
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  Speaker 2: good trails to choose from, but only one that allows
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  Speaker 2: for you to get in and set up without getting
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  Speaker 2: winded if he does come through when you're there. Understanding
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  Speaker 2: the nuance of individual spots is probably the thing that
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  Speaker 2: separates the big buck killers from the hunters just sitting
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  Speaker 2: out there crossing their fingers and their toes eat. Scouting
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  Speaker 2: doesn't explain the nuance in a way that allows you
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  Speaker 2: to walk in and set up right on the X, mostly,
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  Speaker 2: but it does help you understand where the X might
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  Speaker 2: be and how you should approach it. Now, maybe that's
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  Speaker 2: a little muddy, So let me give you an example
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  Speaker 2: of something that happened to me recently. While chasing those
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  Speaker 2: bunnies and Scout and some deer, I found a property
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  Speaker 2: I'd never set foot on that has far more timber
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  Speaker 2: than most of the properties in that region of western Minnesota.
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  Speaker 2: Timber where timber is scarce, is a deer magnet, but
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  Speaker 2: it's also a people magnet because even the dull of
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  Speaker 2: us kind of understan stands that when a resource is
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  Speaker 2: limited generally, but found in abundance in one small location,
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  Speaker 2: it draws the critters who prefer that resource. Now, this spot,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it has a pretty good sized hill on it,
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  Speaker 2: which is another rarity in that region. I figured when
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  Speaker 2: I walked the biggest section of woods which contain that hill,
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  Speaker 2: I'd find plenty of hunter sign and deer sign.
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  Speaker 3: And I was right.
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  Speaker 2: But that's not like a pat yourself on the back
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  Speaker 2: moment it's just predictable deer stuff. That property also has
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  Speaker 2: a smallish lake in it which is ringed by cattails
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  Speaker 2: and smaller woodlots that are home to rabbits, pheasants, and
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  Speaker 2: a hell of a lot of tight deer travel and
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  Speaker 2: last season's bucks sign At one point I waded through
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  Speaker 2: some of the thickest cover I found in three days
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  Speaker 2: to pop out in the open on an inside corner
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  Speaker 2: of a private eggfield. It was classic food to bed
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  Speaker 2: stuff standing there on the inside of the fence, looking
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  Speaker 2: out on a picked beanfield, and the kind of place
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  Speaker 2: where you almost always find a community scrape, which I
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  Speaker 2: did right inside the woods off of that field corner.
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  Speaker 2: Walking it out in both directions showed morning and evening
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  Speaker 2: buck travel according to the rubs. When I dropped a
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  Speaker 2: pin on that big scrape, I saw that on one
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  Speaker 2: side of the cover I could walk maybe two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty yards to grass to a parking area though,
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  Speaker 2: which is an ideal, But the other way led me
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  Speaker 2: deeper into the cover and deeper into that property and
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  Speaker 2: into a spot where there was an island of high
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  Speaker 2: ground that was absolutely littered with rubs. It was also
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  Speaker 2: the kind of spot where when that slew isn't frozen,
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  Speaker 2: anyone wanting to get from one side to the other
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  Speaker 2: had a chance to get only a little wet and muddy,
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  Speaker 2: versus getting a lot wet and muddy if they traveled
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  Speaker 2: anywhere else. The elevation lines on that big hill by
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  Speaker 2: where I parked got real tight on the far side
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  Speaker 2: of that slough spot, And when I walked over there,
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  Speaker 2: I realized that probably a quarter of a mile of
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  Speaker 2: the rough, gnarly rabbit cover, which was absolutely covered in
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  Speaker 2: cockle burrs, connected the most likely spot for a big
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  Speaker 2: one to bed and the most likely spot for a
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  Speaker 2: big one defeat. It kept them on the opposite side
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  Speaker 2: of the lake, far from where most hunters would approach,
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  Speaker 2: and allows them to bail out the backside onto private
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  Speaker 2: if they need to. Now I could see a rough
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  Speaker 2: outline of what that might look like from my truck
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  Speaker 2: before I had ever set foot on the property, But
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  Speaker 2: then by walking it out, I could see what I
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  Speaker 2: thought was going to be versus what actually exists out there.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: This may be the biggest mistake I see hunters make
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  Speaker 2: with east scouting. They view it as a standalone process
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  Speaker 2: for finding big bucks, But you got to go in
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  Speaker 2: there at some point in ground truth your work, and
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  Speaker 2: when you do, that's when you get better at east
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  Speaker 2: scouting and real scouting. This is because east scouting is
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  Speaker 2: a macro affair where you can look at thousands of
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  Speaker 2: acres from the comfort of your couch, but in just
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  Speaker 2: one of those acres might be five potential setups and
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  Speaker 2: only one that is worth a shit. I've started to
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  Speaker 2: think about this more and more in my life as
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  Speaker 2: a white tail hunter and have realized that I'm always
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  Speaker 2: looking for a line of travel first, and then for
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  Speaker 2: multiple ambush sites on that line of travel. It feels
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  Speaker 2: like enough to just find a banging crete crossing and
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  Speaker 2: call it good. But every spot I've ever found like
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  Speaker 2: that is only huntable in certain conditions, and might be
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  Speaker 2: the kind of spot where they come through so late
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  Speaker 2: or so early that it's just too tight of a
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  Speaker 2: risk to get in there and hope they don't do
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  Speaker 2: what they usually do. I'd rather know as much as
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  Speaker 2: I can about that crossing, and then as much as
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  Speaker 2: I can about how they get there and where they
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  Speaker 2: go once they go through. You know, both during mornings
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  Speaker 2: and evenings. E scouting helps you circumvent a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the headaches of scouting because when you're looking down on
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  Speaker 2: that crossing and scrolling along, you can see patches of
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  Speaker 2: high ground and patches of low ground. You can see
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  Speaker 2: where the fields are in the distance, maybe on properties
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  Speaker 2: that you can't go on, but you can still start
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  Speaker 2: to connect those dots. You can see where most folks
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  Speaker 2: would likely get in there, how they'd approach it, and
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  Speaker 2: you can see how you might get in there. Then
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  Speaker 2: you can drop pins on anything relevant and then go
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  Speaker 2: take a walk. When you hit a pin where you
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  Speaker 2: expected bedding or maybe evidence of staging, check your work.
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  Speaker 2: If the rubs are there, keep that waypoint. If not,
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  Speaker 2: get rid of it. You don't need to muddy up
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  Speaker 2: your view of the whole thing. Just take the l
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  Speaker 2: and move on. Eventually you start to piece together travel
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  Speaker 2: routes and the spots along those travel routes that allow
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  Speaker 2: for a good setup. Et scouting provides base knowledge of
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  Speaker 2: a spot in a way that you cannot get from
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  Speaker 2: the ground, and the ground work fine tunes the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing in a way that you cannot get from eat scouting.
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  Speaker 2: One of the properties I scouted on that bunny hunt
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  Speaker 2: is one that i've deer hunted before. In fact, I
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  Speaker 2: sat it during our second season of one week in
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  Speaker 2: November for a couple of days. Now, on that property,
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  Speaker 2: there's one creek bottom in there that I walked out
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  Speaker 2: when I scouted, but I just couldn't find what I
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  Speaker 2: was looking for, so I almost wrote it off. But
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  Speaker 2: before I went out this time, I pulled up on
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  Speaker 2: X and just looked at it, and I saw a
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  Speaker 2: small offshoot of cover that I hadn't walked a few
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  Speaker 2: years ago when I first got interested in that part
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  Speaker 2: sol of public. Now, the spot I was most interested
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  Speaker 2: in had a small creek arm eights heine cattail slew,
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  Speaker 2: and a couple of trees that looked like they were
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  Speaker 2: about five times too big to get a saddle or
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  Speaker 2: a stand in.
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  Speaker 3: And I was right on all of that.
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  Speaker 2: But I also found an amazing little island of trees
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  Speaker 2: and brush twenty yards from an absolutely pounded creek crossing
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  Speaker 2: that would allow for any wind set up except east,
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  Speaker 2: which is an absolute gift.
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  Speaker 3: Now. I found that.
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  Speaker 2: Spot while east scouting, but I couldn't understand it until
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  Speaker 2: I walked in and looked around.
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  Speaker 3: I know what's there and can make a plan to
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  Speaker 3: get in there.
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  Speaker 2: And haunt if I choose, and if I do, I
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  Speaker 2: think there's a good chance a buck we'll walk through there.
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  Speaker 2: If the seasonal timing is on my side, that's a
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  Speaker 2: huge win. But brings me to another mistake we often
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  Speaker 2: make with east scouting, which is not really using it
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  Speaker 2: to raise the kinds of questions we need answers to.
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  Speaker 2: This might be more of a private land thing, but
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  Speaker 2: some folks view east scouting like they view trail camera usage.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a means to prove what they already believe
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  Speaker 2: to be true. If you put a cell camera on
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  Speaker 2: the edge of the beans and are like I knew
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  Speaker 2: it deer eat soybeans, you know you still might learn something,
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  Speaker 2: but not a ton.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: If you get bored and EA scout your lease but
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  Speaker 2: look at it like you already know how the deer
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  Speaker 2: use it, it probably won't learn anything and you probably
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  Speaker 2: won't care. But just for the hell of it, pull
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  Speaker 2: up your on X and toggle on something like the
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  Speaker 2: slope layer. Look at your ground with that layer on
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  Speaker 2: and try to see the shading you know, the and
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  Speaker 2: see if it gives you any reason to question where
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  Speaker 2: bucks might travel during the rut or when they bail
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  Speaker 2: off the neighbor's egg feels that first light and head
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  Speaker 2: back to bed, and if you see anything interesting, go
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  Speaker 2: check it out in person and go in with an
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  Speaker 2: open mind. This allows for sort of a positive feedback
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  Speaker 2: loop to develop, and it's the best way I know
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  Speaker 2: to learn how to scout better all around. The more
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  Speaker 2: you look at old ground with fresh eyes or new
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  Speaker 2: ground with I guess fresh eyes, the more you learn
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  Speaker 2: to look past the big obvious stuff while e scouting,
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  Speaker 2: and you'll start to be able to see where those
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  Speaker 2: little pinch points are and those funnels and those little
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  Speaker 2: things that really matter to a deer hunter. You know,
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  Speaker 2: or where they're most likely to cross a river here
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  Speaker 2: but not there, And why there are always a ton
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  Speaker 2: of rubs in the sumac on top of the hill,
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  Speaker 2: but you never actually see them go there and make rubs.
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  Speaker 2: The thing that holds a lot of us back is
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  Speaker 2: what we think we know about deer, But the truth
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  Speaker 2: is we have the tools to figure out what they
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  Speaker 2: actually do. One of the best tools for that job
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  Speaker 2: is just e scouting. And the best way to really
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  Speaker 2: figure this stuff out is to scout ground you know
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  Speaker 2: and you don't know, and then slip in and check
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  Speaker 2: your work in both types of places. This is also
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  Speaker 2: a great way to address the last big mistake folks
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  Speaker 2: make with eaest scouting, which is they do it, they
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  Speaker 2: learn some stuff, and then they kind of forget everything
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  Speaker 2: as turkey season kicks in and then summer takes over.
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  Speaker 2: But e scouting and then ground truthing that work is
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  Speaker 2: a way to stay connected to the process. I'd say
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  Speaker 2: that my primary method for finding spots to hang trail
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  Speaker 2: cameras comes from winter scouting, and my best finds during
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: winter scouting are almost always tied to eat scouting. There
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  Speaker 2: isn't some world where you have one part without the other,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: and it works as good as having all of these
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  Speaker 2: parts working together. Even if the trail camera work comes
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  Speaker 2: in months after the east scouting and winter scouting, they
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: all work together. It's all part of the same thing.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: And the hunters who understand that and foster that type
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  Speaker 2: of scouting are the hunter who often can show up
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  Speaker 2: just about anywhere and fill of tag, even on ground
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: that a lot of locals believe is a total lost cause.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: So use this time, my friends, Maybe go hunt some rabbits.
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  Speaker 2: If you need a reason to go way through the
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  Speaker 2: sick stuff, or maybe just keep an eye out for
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  Speaker 2: an antler who cares do something, but go and hike
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: to those waypoints. They're just you know, question marks in
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: your mind without real answers yet. But we'll have real
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: answers for you out there in the real world, and
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: then come back next week for more talk about America's
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: favorite big game animal. That's it for this episode. I'm
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Tony Peterson and this has been the Wired to Hunt
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Foundations podcast, which is brought to you by First Light.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for all of your support. I
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  Speaker 2: can't tell you how much it means to us. Just
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: trust me on that. Without you, guys, we are nothing.
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  Speaker 2: We have nothing, So thank you for showing up for us.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: If you're bored out of your minds fighting a little
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: cabin fever right now, you need to be entertained. You
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: want to learn a little bit in this offseason, go
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: to the mediater dot com.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Check it out. So much good stuff there.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: We drop new articles, lot of news coverage on the
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: issues facing the outdoors right now, a lot of new podcasts,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of new films, things like Jordan Siller's Blood
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Trails podcast, which is a newer podcast. We dropped not
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: too long ago, crime series like really, really well done
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: and fascinating Ties to the Outdoors. Jordan's crushing it on
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: that podcast. If you don't check anything else out, check
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: that out because you will love it. Your wife probably
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: will too, if she's anything like mine and she watches
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: CSI and all these murder mysteries all the time. Go
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: check it out, check out the mediater dot com, and
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: thank you once again.