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Porsha Williams EXCLUSIVE: The Full One-on-One Interview · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 4: Oh no, you don't bust in.
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  Speaker 1: I'm mad you go.
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  Speaker 4: I looked at you. I said, no, he didn't rob.
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  Speaker 2: If.
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad I brought out Concortia.
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  Speaker 1: Now, honey, they have to break out Louis and Baton.
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  Speaker 2: You're crazy, Come in, come in, No Porsche, first of all.
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  Speaker 4: No, first of all, you don't take your shoes.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, honey, let me get comfortable with you with Porsche.
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  Speaker 4: Let me set the little the tide. Oh yes, sit
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  Speaker 4: them over there.
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  Speaker 1: Now I didn't I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Breaking Click them and go to somewhere else.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I mean you gave me Jessica Rabbit Teasma.
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  Speaker 4: You know you love all this.
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  Speaker 1: Soul.
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  Speaker 5: You are still housewives, And I gave you Portia housewives.
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  Speaker 4: Because you like the cleavage and the hair.
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  Speaker 5: And you knew that I knew that you took Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so good for you.
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  Speaker 1: I feel good. No, I can tell I do. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think? Bring?
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  Speaker 4: We started?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Water?
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  Speaker 1: Now is it HENNESSY know? We stop with that? No? Okay? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well you know I'm vegan.
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  Speaker 4: You're vegan.
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  Speaker 1: How do you look at this body? You think this is?
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  Speaker 4: You work out all that time?
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  Speaker 1: I know my t are setting because it's waste.
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  Speaker 4: Where is it?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Landria, put your sunglasses on it? Damn?
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  Speaker 4: But you know I've been doing this something too.
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  Speaker 1: No, you look good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I stopped breads and I stopped sodas. SODA's were killing me.
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  Speaker 5: I had no idea how much fluid I was holding
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  Speaker 5: with drinking soda.
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  Speaker 4: So I stop sodas. Like now when I work out.
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  Speaker 1: Coco had Coco.
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  Speaker 4: Coco Chanelle is playing a titchen.
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  Speaker 2: Coco us and Louis so so Coco Chanel, meet your
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  Speaker 2: your brothers, Louis and Baton.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, you know I had to dress up for you,
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  Speaker 5: and they look good. You look good, so that we
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  Speaker 5: go over the top for each other.
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  Speaker 4: We we knew, we knew it.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't listen. This has been a year in the making,
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  Speaker 1: Yes it has.
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  Speaker 2: You are literally and this is no cap You are
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  Speaker 2: literally my number one most requested guest.
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  Speaker 1: Any time I leave you like a love letter in
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  Speaker 1: your comments.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, they know we have a love Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, was like when is she coming on the show?
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  Speaker 1: And you know what's so funny what the girls assume
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  Speaker 1: Porsche ain't fucking with Carlos. That's why that's why she
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  Speaker 1: ain't gonna his podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, because I think listen, everyone knows that you and
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  Speaker 2: I have this adoration for each other.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's also a thing called timing. Yes, and
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  Speaker 1: I want you to know, Yes, I want this interview
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  Speaker 1: on some real ship. Yeah, okay, I want this to
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  Speaker 1: be you mean.
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  Speaker 4: This conversation exactly. Let's just be real. We're just gonna
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  Speaker 4: have a.
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  Speaker 5: Conversation, like we got to catch up, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying. And to be honest with you, I know
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  Speaker 5: people are saying, like, oh, she probably don't want to
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  Speaker 5: do the interview. No, Like I don't necessarily like interviews,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like you already know I'm
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  Speaker 5: misunderstood a lot of times, So I do interviews when
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  Speaker 5: I have to do interviews, and you know, sit downs
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  Speaker 5: like this can be a lot.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm like, you know what, I trust you and
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  Speaker 4: I want to have more of a conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's that's what this is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what this is. Because the thing is this,
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  Speaker 1: I've known you for over ten years.
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  Speaker 2: Did you ever think in a million years that the
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  Speaker 2: girl who started season five would become the face of
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  Speaker 2: season seventeen? And you are literally and this is not
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  Speaker 2: me blowing smoke up your ass, and I hope you
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  Speaker 2: receive it if you if you haven't, you have become
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  Speaker 2: the face of the Real Housewives of Atlanta. And what
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  Speaker 2: was so interesting about that is when we were together,
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  Speaker 2: I will always say to you, I believe in you.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're everything. You are the little engine that could.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see yourself being this woman who would be
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  Speaker 2: front facing season seventeen twelve years later?
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  Speaker 4: One second, I gotta move this knee. I'm over forty,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm trying. I'm trying to what it by
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  Speaker 4: this year and I got the wrong meeting.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, If I wait the whole interview to been as straight,
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  Speaker 5: we're gonna have a problem.
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  Speaker 4: So let me just strain it out right now.
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  Speaker 5: Ye let me do what I gotta do for me, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: because we could be premento pause and these joints are
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  Speaker 5: scream me okay, reset, okay here and there's my corn
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  Speaker 5: showing God down. It's a lot to worry about at
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  Speaker 5: this age. But okay, back to what you're saying. Did
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  Speaker 5: I know back then that I would be in this place.
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  Speaker 5: I knew that I would be. I knew that I
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  Speaker 5: was bigger than my circumstance. I knew that back then.
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  Speaker 5: As hard as it was being on the show, being
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  Speaker 5: a loaner on the show, I don't think people really
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  Speaker 5: understand I was a loaner for the majority of time.
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  Speaker 5: Like I didn't take part or nobody asked me to
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  Speaker 5: be a part of any type of alliance or any
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  Speaker 5: of that. So I called myself kind of a floater.
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  Speaker 5: I was kind of friends with everyone or or none,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And you know, I went
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  Speaker 5: through my life and I opened up for the cameras
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  Speaker 5: just naturally, you know what I mean, just because at
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  Speaker 5: some point you realize this is meant for me, this
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  Speaker 5: is what I'm gonna do. So I didn't know exactly
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  Speaker 5: where it would take me. And now, yes, I appreciate
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  Speaker 5: the accolades. Yes I appreciate being you know, one of
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  Speaker 5: the more known people on the show. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if I knew that that's really wasn't what I was
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  Speaker 5: ever seeking. I just knew I would be successful.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's it.
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  Speaker 5: Because I never would have foreseen Nan not being here.
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  Speaker 5: I never would have foreseen kingynot being here, Candy, I
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  Speaker 5: never would have foreseen it because we were such a sisterhood,
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  Speaker 5: such a family, and outside of a family, we were
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  Speaker 5: the business of Bravo, and I just knew that we
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  Speaker 5: would always be doing this together. And you don't really
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  Speaker 5: see it into it, you know what I mean. If
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  Speaker 5: we owned it, it was our house. So I would
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  Speaker 5: just hope, like now, I'm a good keeper of the
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  Speaker 5: house that one day they may come back to and
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  Speaker 5: even if they don't, I'm a good keeper of it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna hold it down like you. I'm a part
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  Speaker 4: of the fucking foundation.
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  Speaker 1: No, you are a little fight that. Let me ask
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  Speaker 1: you this.
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  Speaker 2: When season sixteen started, Yeah, you and Kenya were the
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  Speaker 2: vets that came back to sort of resurrect this soft reboots. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: when Kenya got suspended from the show, Yeah, didn't make
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  Speaker 2: you nervous in terms.
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  Speaker 1: Of I have to carry this now on my own.
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  Speaker 5: No, it didn't, and not because Kenya didn't have impact.
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  Speaker 5: Because when I came back to the show after taking
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  Speaker 5: off for three years, I was excited to be in
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  Speaker 5: the same space.
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  Speaker 4: As Kenya again, you know what I mean. And I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what the hell that was gonna look like.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know if she was gonna be riding me
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  Speaker 5: about my marriage or whatever, or and or my divorce.
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  Speaker 5: And I didn't know if we were going to be
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  Speaker 5: making up and be grown women and try to.
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  Speaker 4: Build a friendship.
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  Speaker 5: But I knew that she was going to hold a
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  Speaker 5: great space for me as in another leader in the pack.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, even though this is is an ensemble
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  Speaker 4: cast and people now think, oh, I like being.
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  Speaker 5: The you know, the head person in charge. No, I
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  Speaker 5: love a strong cast. I cannot say that enough, you do.
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  Speaker 5: I do love a strong cast. I don't need to
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  Speaker 5: be the queen of nothing. We all queens as far
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  Speaker 5: as I'm concerned, because that means I can work a
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  Speaker 5: little less.
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  Speaker 4: I can work a little less, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: But when it comes to Kenya having to leave, it
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  Speaker 5: did hurt me. It did because I felt like we
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  Speaker 5: were able to just meet.
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  Speaker 4: Each other in a different space.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like the space that she and I have built,
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  Speaker 5: And yes, I'm gonna add myself in. Whether the bitch
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  Speaker 5: bullied me for years or not, I'm gonna add myself
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  Speaker 5: in because everybody plays a part in a relationship. But
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  Speaker 5: I feel like the space we had grown up on
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  Speaker 5: the show in was very toxic, and I feel like
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  Speaker 5: my time away and her time away when we came
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  Speaker 5: back this time, we wanted to get to know each
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  Speaker 5: other on a different space. It was more like I
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  Speaker 5: respect you, respect me. Damn, bitch, I missed you, you
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  Speaker 5: miss me. Forget the drama. Let's see if we can
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  Speaker 5: get to know each other because we're the last one standing.
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  Speaker 5: And so when she left, it wasn't so much as dang, how.
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  Speaker 4: Am I gonna hold it down? It was you got
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  Speaker 4: to step up to the plan to do what you
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  Speaker 4: gotta do, you know now.
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  Speaker 5: Unfortunately when she left, I was divorcing, so I wasn't
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  Speaker 5: really in the space to step up. Like that year
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  Speaker 5: that she left was probably was probably one of my
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  Speaker 5: toughest years coming back. I was started the season going
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  Speaker 5: through divorce, drawing I were going through it. I just
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  Speaker 5: wasn't open emotionally to anybody on the cast except for Cynthia,
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  Speaker 5: and so although I knew that there needed to be
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  Speaker 5: an anchor, at some point, I wasn't ready to do that.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't even ready to open up to the show
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  Speaker 4: in that way.
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  Speaker 5: Besides, okay, if I need to handle something in a moment, handling,
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  Speaker 5: and when I left, I left, and that's really not
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  Speaker 5: the best way to step into that anchor position. I
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  Speaker 5: feel like this season, I'm more present, I'm healing, I'm
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  Speaker 5: at a better place expires where I'm healing. And not
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  Speaker 5: to say that I'm the anchor or not. I think
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  Speaker 5: it's pretty obviously that me Phedra and sent the other anchors.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when I look at you, Portia, Diane Williams, Yes, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: come on, government, I'm like, you.
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  Speaker 1: Made it known that you can't count a bitch out.
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  Speaker 5: No, well, you can't count me out because God has
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  Speaker 5: counted me in. So there's not a person on this
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  Speaker 5: earth who can count me out. My destiny is already said.
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  Speaker 5: It is what it's gonna be. It's a matter of
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  Speaker 5: whether I'm gonna step into that place and own it
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  Speaker 5: or not. And I think at this point in my life,
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  Speaker 5: I am totally owning everything that is there for me,
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  Speaker 5: I'm owning my success, I'm owning my mistakes, I'm owning everything.
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  Speaker 5: So it was never anybody who could give it to
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  Speaker 5: me or take it away from me. It's whether I
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  Speaker 5: woke the fuck up and said, you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 5: that bitch, you know, and I'm that girl. Whether I'm divorced,
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  Speaker 5: I'm that girl. Whether I'm single, I'm that girl. Whether
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  Speaker 5: I'm kicked out of my house, I'm that girl. Whether
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  Speaker 5: Housewives wanting back or not, I'm that girl regardless. And
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  Speaker 5: I started when I started to really accept that and
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  Speaker 5: celebrate myself and envision my future without anything else besides
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  Speaker 5: me being empowered, then you know, nothing could touch that.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And it's funny because I look back at you season six.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and what was going on season six?
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay what episode one, season six second scene the episode
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  Speaker 2: premiere started Albernini and Greg opening up their wedding gifts.
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  Speaker 2: They just got remarried, and then it cut to you,
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  Speaker 2: and it cuts to you. You were talking to Randy Kessler.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, and I remember praising you to the network
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  Speaker 2: that season because you were you were positioned as like
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  Speaker 2: this steper wife. Yeah, for sure, do you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? Season five? And it was sort of like, well,
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  Speaker 2: who is she now? Who is Poorsia of season six?
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  Speaker 2: And what I do want the world to know is this,
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  Speaker 2: and I mean this with every five of my being.
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  Speaker 2: And I never said this publicly. No one produced you
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  Speaker 2: season six.
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  Speaker 1: No one gave you ideas, suggestions.
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  Speaker 2: You were so real and raw, and I remember marveling
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  Speaker 2: at your strength because when you were talking to Randy Kessler,
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  Speaker 2: and that's when you all found out that this man
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  Speaker 2: who you devoted your life to.
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  Speaker 1: Divorced you on Twitter first, which is.
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  Speaker 2: How you found out. And not only did you have
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  Speaker 2: to find out he divorced you via Twitter, you were
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  Speaker 2: removed from the home. He kicked you out right, and
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  Speaker 2: then you had to live it your mother. And then
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  Speaker 2: I remember Miss Diane passionately declaring to the world that
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  Speaker 2: you were driving around your Mercedes Benz and you had
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  Speaker 2: to ask your mother for five hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 1: And my thought process at that time was who you
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  Speaker 1: are today?
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like subconsciously when it comes to the
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  Speaker 2: decisions you make in relationships or your career, is it
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  Speaker 2: because you never want to be put in a situation
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  Speaker 2: where a man can kick you out.
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  Speaker 1: You have to borrow five hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Dollars from your mother, you have to move back in
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  Speaker 2: with her, and you have to start from scratch.
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  Speaker 5: So for me, season six and having to re enter
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  Speaker 5: the show completely opposite to what I thought I was
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  Speaker 5: gonna give to the camera. So, you know, I think
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  Speaker 5: that a lot of people, you know now nowadays housewives
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  Speaker 5: come onto the show. They audition or not, and they
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  Speaker 5: get put on the show and then they become whatever
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  Speaker 5: character they possibly think they need to be right and
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  Speaker 5: I hey, good, better and different. Maybe that's how people
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  Speaker 5: make reality TV now.
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  Speaker 4: But some girls they do that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 5: However, my mind frame and how I joined the show
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  Speaker 5: in the beginning was I'm a wife, you know, I'm I.
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  Speaker 5: I have a a husband who was famous. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I c I have a certain pedigree from which I
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  Speaker 5: come from, and I wanted to unveil what a beautiful
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  Speaker 5: black family look like. And that's what I thought I
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  Speaker 5: was coming to do. So it was no negative in
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  Speaker 5: my mind. And then season two reality kicked in and said,
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  Speaker 5: oh no, this is your real life and the dotted
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  Speaker 5: line you signed on, they still got to see the
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  Speaker 5: ugly and I think that is where I bought into
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  Speaker 5: my staying power on reality TV, and where I paid
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  Speaker 5: the price to be to have supporters be on this
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  Speaker 5: journey with me when they realized that although I thought
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  Speaker 5: my life was perfect and I wanted to cook his meals,
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  Speaker 5: that at this point, my mama gotta cook my meals,
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  Speaker 5: you still don't care. My mama gotta bring me breakfast,
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  Speaker 5: my mama got a house, me clothed me, etc. I
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  Speaker 5: think when I was able to let the camera see
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  Speaker 5: that a woman can be can see herself through a
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  Speaker 5: man's eyes only, and then forget who she is and
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  Speaker 5: then rebuild that that was important the show is when
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  Speaker 5: I clocked in.
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  Speaker 4: I think that is at that point is when I
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  Speaker 4: knew after that.
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  Speaker 5: Season longevity would be there, because after that season of
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  Speaker 5: showing how broken I was, Candy was there for me
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  Speaker 5: during that I think that's when she and I really
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  Speaker 5: got close, after being that vulnerable in front of cameras,
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  Speaker 5: knowing that was the opposite of what I thought I
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  Speaker 5: was going to show, and I would meet people in
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  Speaker 5: the street and they would say, Porsche, it was because
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  Speaker 5: you showed what you went through, Porsche, It's because you
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  Speaker 5: decided to go through this and open up your family life,
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  Speaker 5: you know, open up and show that all what glitzen
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  Speaker 5: glows is not perfect.
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  Speaker 4: When you did that, you helped me. You helped me
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  Speaker 4: walk away from a relationship that might have been abusive.
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  Speaker 5: You helped me, you know, find strength in myself or
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: rebuild or just reimagine what your damn life would be like.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: When I did that, that's when I said, Okay, I'm
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: now married to this world and I decided that I'm
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: gonna stick to it, you know what I mean. Like,
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: not only yes, there's a realistic part of the check
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: being there and that was great, but there was also
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: a part of me to decide it this is who
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: I'm supposed to be at this moment. This is a
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: part of my life is supposed to show, whether I
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: become a TV host or not, where our own multimillion
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: dollar companies or not.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: I'm also supposed to show the other.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Side of being a woman and what we go through
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: that may be embarrassing, would be hurtful, where a moment
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: would have to be vulnerable.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: At that moment, I knew.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: This is a part of me, and it was on
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: through the seasons. I want to say maybe around season
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: eight is when I realized that it was don't.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Take this too deep. I know how people roll with
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: my words.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: It was somewhat of a ministry to be able to
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: basically show my testimony like everything that I was going through,
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: I was going through it and giving that. I'm a
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: tribe person. If you meet me and I don't care
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: what you got going on. Now, it's a part of
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: my add for me to want to relate to you.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: Why you're telling me a story, like you could be
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: telling me a story and my mind is running to
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: find something similar to relate to you.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Right, But it's also a part of me because it's
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: a part of my calling to also.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: If I'm talking to someone, be like, dang, I went
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: through the same thing and this is how I was
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: encouraged or this is how I made it through and
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: TV reality TV became that vehicle for.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Me to do that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: Now, I'm not saying that I knew I was this
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: powerful of a person to help change people lives. I
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: just knew that if I was real, if I ignored
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: the cameras, if I just lived my life authentically, that
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: it would help somebody. That's what I knew in the end,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: and that's pretty much. What kept me doing this all
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: the time.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Well, no, listen, and I don't think there's anything to
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: be bashful about when it comes to your testimony.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, listen.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: You and I are very spiritual and in my faith,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: God makes no mistakes. Everything happens for a reason, and
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: you have to sit there and understand the role you
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: played in the situation. But also how can I remove
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: myself from the situation and grow from it? And I
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: think in your marriage to Cordell, a lot of that
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to me was that was her first marriage, and you
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: married a Heisman Trophy winner. And I would never forget
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: him being on the radio and he said he was
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: used to being heralded as Cordell Stewart, the Heisman Trophy winner,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: and he was now reduced to meeting people as portious husband.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: You remember that, right, I do?
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: And I was forewarned by Nini. I never forget. We
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: were on the first trip that I took, the trip
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: that I took where Katy was.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: Spinning around and Nini was doing all she was doing.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: That's the first troop with Nini looked at me and
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: she said, you realize what you've signed up for? Yeah,
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: she said, first of all, your husband's pussy.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Game is going to go through the roof. And you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: my innocent self at that time, I'm only thirty, I'm like,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: who game?
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: You know? And what roof?
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: And where howd you go get in contact?
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: She was like, no, no, no, you do put him
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: on his TV. You you put him out there, and
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: I was like, okay, wow. The second thing she told
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: me was it can only be one star in that house.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: And what was so crazy about her telling me that
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: was I can remember one time we had a disagreement
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: and he said those exact words.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: He said, there can only be one star in this house.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah and so, and listen, that's not taking anything away
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: from him or taking away from anything away from me,
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: but he was the celebrity in our relationship. And you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: at that point, the Real Housewives fans are bigger than NFL, NBA, WNBA.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: They are huge, and they're very, very passionate, So no
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: matter where you're going, they're gonna feel overwhelming in it.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: At that moment, I think it felt like my stardom
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: had risen beyond you know, but you know, she did
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: forewarm me, and I just think in that marriage, it
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: wasn't really a fault of his, and it really wasn't
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: a fault of mine.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Sometimes when two.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: People get married, they can have an intention to have
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: a particular life.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: But your upbringing also plays a part.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: So although I was born to be a wife, I
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: feel and I was raised to be a wife, and
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: a part of my mind have grown up so religious
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: was being a wife was a pinnacle. My mom had
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: also empowered me. So see I think I forgot about
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: that part. When I met Cordell. I had my own
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: child care centered centaurs, I had two and I was
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: very successful.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: I lived in a penthouse.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: He lived in a penthouse across the street from me,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: and so I was very successful when he met me.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: But when he met me again, the pinnacle and the identity.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: To me was to be a wife.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: But while you are agreeing to be the wife, which
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: I became the housewife. I let go all my businesses,
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: I let my my penthouse go. What was deep in
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: me that my mother had put was being an entrepreneur,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: being a woman who can empower herself, being a woman
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: who can constantly grow, Being a woman who can identify
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: and say who who she is when she gets to
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: that place. And I forgot about that part, and so
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: within that marriage, although had agreed to be this cute
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: little housewife that burning desire to have something for myself,
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: it had to come out.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: And I just was growing.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: I mean I was thirty and I started to grow,
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: and that just wasn't the marriage to grow in. It's
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: not his fault, it really wasn't mine. Sometimes a marriage
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: is not yours to grow in with that person, and
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: that one just wasn't growable, so we both had to
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: leave it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: That's really what that was.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: When you say you were you were raised to be
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: a wife. Were you raised to be a rich man's wife?
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, in the South, you want to marry up.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: I mean that's just simple.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: I mean you don't imagine yourself marrying someone where you struggling,
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: And you know, I hate that me now being on TV.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: That kind of gets flipped because at the same time,
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: I was never struggling as an adult. I always again
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: had my own very successful et cetera. But when you
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: say it, so many people don't understand that mentality because
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: it's so old school. But yes, when you marry it's like, yeah,
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: you want americonone who can take care you in the
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: most traditional way, and in tradition it is the husband
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: who's the head of the household. He's the provider, he's everything.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: So not necessarily he has to be a millionaire, but
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: he does. His money is more important than yours. Hence
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: why when I got married, I closed my I sold
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: my businesses and just depended on his. You know, So, yes,
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: it's a part of it is definitely, you know, honoring
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: your husband, putting him at the head of everything. But
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: as I have grown, yes, if I ever get married again,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: I will still honor my spouse. But I know that
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: I have a place in that marriage too. I know
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: that it's a partnership. I know that we should be
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: standing side by side. I know that what means something
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: to me should mean something to them. So it's a
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: little bit different now. But being thirty years old, you know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: coming out of the gay first marriage, I was set
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: that way that being a wife was.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: The like the pinnacle.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: What is so fascinating to me is this. I never
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: even heard you say this.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: So when you was married to Perdale, You're like, I'm
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: going to be a wife and I'm gonna like forget
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: about my businesses, remove myself from it and be a wife.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: So when you married Simon, you quit this nation, you
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: quit Housewives.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: It is no go ahead.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: So when I married Simon, this is this is what happened,
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: and I guess it's a for the record type of conversation.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: For the record, Okay, the record, Okay, So for the record,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: I left Housewives for that break when I turned forty.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: That was around forty, and I had planned for that
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: financially mentally everything.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I knew that I had had my daughter, Palar.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: I knew that I wanted to experience real life and
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: real time outside of the cameras, and I knew I
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: was going to give myself that time to step away.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: So I had financially planned for that.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: You know, these checks are large doing housewives, so that
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: means I have been very responsible with my income to
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: know I could walk away from that check, and I
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: did so. Then I met Simon, and at that point
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: I was working at this Nation and you know, you
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: have I'm traveling with him and all that, and it's like, oh, well, baby,
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: I don't really want you with me, and he decided
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: to supplement that income.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you very much, you know, So that's how
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: that happened.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: I didn't not think Housewives because he I got married
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: and I just walked through from house hove.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Planned because you know, the rumor is you left Housewives
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: when you married Simon because you didn't want to deal
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: with answering questions about that relationship.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't understand that. I mean, I've dealt with
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: worse questions on Housewives. Yeah, and I even came back
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: after the turmoil, so that would even be worse. Right, No,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: it's it's listen. I've had my feet to the fire.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: I've been burned, I've been everything on this show. There's
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: nothing that I'm afraid of. I had already genuinely let
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Housewives know prior to that reunion I wasn't going back.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: They knew that already. Andy knew that.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Everyone knew that already, and that's before I even got
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: with Simon. So you know, I understand how it looks.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: And I'm the type of celebrity to where I don't
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: chase after all the narratives that are out there. Do
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: I think that some of them I probably should have addressed. Maybe,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: but I just don't do that because at the end
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: of the day, I am a public figure and my
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: life is out there and people are gonna come up
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: with timelines and this and that, and you just can't
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: chase that. I gotta be too busy living my life,
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And by the time I
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: came back to Housewives, I was in survival mode. So
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: I'm not in a place where I'm worried about what
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: people are saying or I'm not trying to clear things
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: up for anybody, because I'm too busy really living my life.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: So I remember and speaking of clearing things up, because
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: you know, I love that I'm talking to they heal
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: the Porsche because well healing healing, all right, because it's
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: a progress progress.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: It's so body that takes me back.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: The princess up out lining the.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Hated Yes.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: So I remember talking to you because I only contact
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: you if I felt like my girl needs me. And
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: it was a time that you broke the Internet with
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the of you, Dennis and Simon, and we were like WTF, right, And.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: I was like WTF. The next day, I was like,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: what did we do? What is happening?
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: It was? It broke the internet, and I remember you
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: trended number one on Twitter and celebrities were even commenting
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: on it, and I remember there was one thing that
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: hurt your feelings that you said to me, And they
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: had this Portia soundtrack on Twitter, and the soundtrack was
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: see the Girls, I'll take your man or Alicia Keys
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: unbreak up, you know, like all of these and that.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: She's somewhere living her life and on vacation.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I remember you being offended by it at
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: that time. I'm going to go back at that time
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: and the reason why I wanted to bring this up
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: is because I know you personally and and you weren't
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: marveling at this You really had a very hard time
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: dealing with the things people were saying because you knew
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: some show was gonna come.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: And you were prepared.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: You were prepared for that, but you weren't prepared for
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: people really referring to you as horseshot at that time,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: and then to see people try to weaponize you even
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: on the show this season when it comes to that,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: can you talk to us about how you really listened
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: in your defense?
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: And I said this on my show.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: When we cast new Housewives or friend of we assign
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: a housewife to them. I just did sympth and Billy's
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: podcast and I said to her, the network said, you're
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: going to meet Niini and hopefully Nini likes you, but
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Nini's going to be your friend, and that's you gonna
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: come in with.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: So I remember with Fallon it was the same thing
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: with you, and I remember saying to the world like.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not poortial apologist.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: But what I need you guys to understand as a
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: producer is there.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Wasn't a friendship there.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: And I think when it came to you, did you
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: not think at the time that, oh shit, they're gonna
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: think I took this woman's husband.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: You know, here's the thing.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: I take full accountability for my part in the optics, okay,
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: and I take full accountability for not speaking to the
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: narrative once again, at that time, I just didn't feel
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: like it was my place. You know, the things that
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: I knew about her and his relationship, it did not
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: feel like it was my place.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: I had heard her doing an interview and she was like, well,
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: if I'm pregnant, I'll say so me. I'm a woman.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna respect that. If she wants to tell that
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: about herself while she's that's on her.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Because you knew she was pregnant at the time, and
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: you were protecting the story and it was not my place.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it just wasn't my place to speak on and
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I knew it very early on.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: You know, it was one of the reasons that you know,
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: they were where they were in their relationship.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: It just wasn't my place. And even though if I
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: would have taken that information and.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Put it out, would it have freed me from the
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: shackles of ther of the scarlet letter. Sure would have.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: But that's the price that I paid at that time
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: for to just stay out of it, you know what
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: I mean. And for me when it goes back to
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: whether she was my friend or not, No, she wasn't.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: I also had text messages that showed the day I
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: was gonna film, the producer send me her numbers, said, Hey,
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: this is her number, so you can meet her.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: I did not know her. I did not know anything.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: And of course I filmed with her, and you know,
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: fist pump Simon did not even recognize him or anything.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: I had known him like eight years ago, didn't even
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: recognize him. Had met her that day for the first time.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: But you know what, at the end of the day,
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: it is what it is. I know that people at
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: this point are gonna believe what they want to believe anyway.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: There's some people who hear my side and they're hearing
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: it to understand, and then there's some people who are
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: hearing me to figure out a way to trip it
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: up and switch it up all over again. So I'm
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: still responsible for me. I'm not gonna speak to how
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: his part. I'm not gonna speak to her part. I
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: wish her well, I wish him well. At the end
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: of the day, that was years ago. I married him
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: and were now divorced, and pretty much that's that. But
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: you know, when I think about it, yes, if I
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: were to speak on some of the information that I
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: had at the time, would it have made it better?
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: Maybe maybe, because as a public figure and as someone
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: who's been in reality TV, I could sit here and
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: be telling you the absolute truth, and there may be
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: sixty percent of people who just are.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Determined to say, Nope, you stole him. He was legally married.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: That's what you did, and that's what it is, And
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: so I just paid that cost like it is what
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: it is. I just have to continue on living my life.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: That's one of the burdens of being a reality star,
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: and people don't really want to hear all the truth.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: They really want to hear what's sensationalized. They really want
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: to hear that. It's people who walk around all day,
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: it's women on our show Housewives of Atlanta who were
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: going through divorce and who are still dating. It's men
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: who are going through divorce that are celebrities and they're
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: still dating.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: But you know, I get crucified. So it is what
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: it is.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: I own it and I've moved on. So you don't
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: have to be mad at me about it. You don't gotta,
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: you know, try to put me on a cross about it.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: It's done and it's over with for me.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like there's an apology to give a
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: fallon or you think at the end of the.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Day, it is what it is.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: I think that an apology will be something that is
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: close to taking accountability. I take my accountability for you know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: me not speaking to the situation. I think as far
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: as her, I wish her well. And however she was
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: dealing with her husband or had moved on from him,
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: or he had moved on for her, that's something for
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: them to figure out. That's something for them to make
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: amends with. It really doesn't have anything to do with me.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: But yes, I knew that by fault of the show,
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: that's how it's gonna look. You know, you have to
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: do the show and everybody has to look like friends.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: You have to make it look a certain way. No
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: one's really thinking about the fact that this is a
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: set and this is someone who's trying out, someone who's auditioning,
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: and they're here and they're gone. You know, people don't
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: think about that, and it's at the end of the day,
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: it's not my job to really enlighten you.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: It's fine. Say what you want to say, comment and
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I'm moving on.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: And when people say to you when you and Simon
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: were divorced, seeing that this was your karma, because I'm
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: sure you saw that, Yeah, did that hurt you or
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: did you also do you believe that was your karma?
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Well, if it was my karma, it's a good karma,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: it's good karma.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Tell me how.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: I'm in a great place.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Although I loved him and I would have loved for
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: our relationship to work out, what's best is where.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: I am now.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: You know, we sometimes when you marry someone no matter
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: what your intentions are, how hard you work it trying
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: to make it, you know, be with it used to be.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: And they may be thinking they're working and making a
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: relationship work.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: It just doesn't work out, you know.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: And so I feel like where I am now and
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: the way I know portion now, I think I'm in
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: a better place. So if it was karma, it's good karma,
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: you know, because there are some parts of that relationship.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: I have to admit that I was falling back into
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: old patterns way back with my first marriage, you know,
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: giving up who I was to a certain extent.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: I love this nation.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: I loved doing that job, and you know, when you
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: think about it, it's like, oh, well, why did I
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: just poof give it up? I know why I give
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: up Housewives at the moment, because I wanted to. But
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: what was that decision making that made you say, oh,
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: you've been doing this nation for eight years, You're just
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: gonna leave it.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: So when you start, as you're growing and you're learning
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: who you are me now being in my forties, you
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: start to recognize when old patterns are coming back. And
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: sometimes when you are practicing old patterns, you end up
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: with the same people who used to hurt you, and
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: so for me, I started to look and realize, oh, wow,
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: I'm with the same type of person that is hurtful
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: to me. Not that he tried to hurt me, but
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: the box that I was being put in.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: It just wasn't best for me. And where I am now,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: I'm so open and free with who I am, Like
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I literally take snapshots on a daily basis of my life.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Like if it's something bad, I take a snapshot and
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: think about how I got through it that day. If
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: I'm spending time with my daughter, I take a snapshot,
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: like I'm so blessed to have my daughter with my partner,
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: I'm taking a snapshot.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Wow, I owned who I am and I get to
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: have this type of happiness.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: And even in business, I'm making choices and decisions that
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: I feel confident about.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: It's not like I'm being led anywhere.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: I own every part of who I am right now,
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: and I just don't know if I would have been
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: there only seeing myself through a man's eyes. And now
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: I have true vision of who Porsche is and I
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: love it good, bad or in different. I fucking love
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: me right now?
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Did he like your limelight, your your star power.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: He did, Yeah, he did. I mean, who wouldn't It's
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: pretty glamorous to be a housewife.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Well, what's not to you?
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: Friends will call you who you haven't talked too in years,
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: family members coldly, you don't want to know the tea
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: from the show like, it's a very glamorous lifestyle for
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: someone to.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Enter into as my partner.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: And did he liked it too much?
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: That would only be for him to say, can I say?
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: You can say what you want.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I was surprised, Yeah, I was listen in his defense,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I met him once, Yeah, and he was lovely.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I was surprised at the route he's going now with
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: interviews and the you know, the face two photos and
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: the appati, Well I did that, Okay.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: I enjoy a Facebook. I enjoyed Face two and two
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: or three. You want to be next to me in
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: the picture, I'm gonna touch you too. And once I
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: touched him once, it's like hit me and yeah, that
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: that's who you are.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Only hen.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Got that phone? That app out my phone?
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Do you know that people were making best at your
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: wedding whether or not I was going to last?
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: I think that Unfortunately for there's a part of this
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: world for me that is unfortunate. There are some people
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: that truly do root for me, and then there are
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: some people that feel like this young black girl shouldn't
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: have all that, This black girl doesn't deserve the princess treatment,
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: This black girl doesn't deserve somebody who you know, sees
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: her worth and wants to treat it like a princess
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: and wants to make her feel like she didn't have
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: to work and do what she wants to do and have.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: It all, have her daughter and be her daughter.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Some people root for women to have that, and when
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: they get it, they want to destroy it. And then
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: there are some people who root for you to have
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: it and they're happy for you. So am I surprised
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: that those very people who were at pos at my
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: wedding or online talking about betson, etc. No, I'm not surprised,
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: because everybody's not happy for you. And at the end
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: of the day, if you live your life for people's cheers,
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be silent at night. You cannot be listening
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: to people cheers. You cannot give a damn. You gotta
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: live your life and make your mistakes and get your
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: wins for yourself.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: That's how you have to do it.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I am so proud of you.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you, no, because seriously, the thing with you that
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I love is the fact that you have allowed yourself
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: to be a woman who has Listen, you went through
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: some shit.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know what I'm saying?
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: And now was I had a front seat watching down
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: on the Foe as producer and to see how you're
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: able to take all of that pain and turn it
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: into purpose. I mean, you have this empire that you
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: built for yourself. And what was interesting is when I
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: was in the Breakfast Club.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: I was and again thank you for that interview, the
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: interview that you did on the Breakfast Club, and you
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: dubbed me the black Kardashian. Where the people to say,
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: why she gotta be the Black Kardashian. No, no, no,
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: We're talking about impact. We're talking about influence. We're talking
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: about a vision for someone and what they can give
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: to the world. For you to compare me to her
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: or just that level of impact, I truly appreciate it.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: You didn't have to do that, you know what I mean.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: You didn't have to give me a flower.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: You could say, oh, Porscha, you know, she played dumb,
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: but she really smart and leave it there. You took
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: it a step further and you spoke to my character
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: and you spoke for the gift that you had seen
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: long time ago, and you were celebrating where it is now.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: And I just want to tell you, humbly, I really
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: do appreciate you saying that, because not many people speak
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: about me in that manner publicly.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: No, And I say that, well, you're welcome, Porsicha, and
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I meant every word, because you have built a multi
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: million dollar empire.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Go Naked Hair.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: We're talking about the sheets, bitch, We're talking about a
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: beauty campaign that you have with Cindy Crawford.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? As a black girl
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: from Georgia like you really did do that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: When it comes to the multiple businesses that you have
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: and the reason why I said no, I think you guys,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: this is what I feel sad about when it comes
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: to the perception of people half of you.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: You're not dumb.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: You're no one's bimbo. You are a very smart business woman.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: You have passive income. I don't think people understand that
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: your sheets brings in millions of dollars.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have so many things going on for yourself.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: So for the world who may not know this because
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: again I say, oh she does housewives and whatever, talk
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: to us about the many business endeavors that you do have.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: Well, Go Naked just reached over ten million dollars in sales.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: And I've had Go Naked here ten plus years, and
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: that's the hugecomplishment for me and my business and my partners.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: And I will not partners because I don't have any partners,
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: but you own it one one hundred percent on Go
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Naked Hair and we just reached over ten million dollars.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: Pamper by Porsche I've had over seven years and we
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: have also reached over millions. What I have to say
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: for people who say Porsche is dumb or bimbo.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: It's just words. Continue to do so. I mean, I
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: post enough on my page.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: Sometimes people when they come to my Instagram and they
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: see someone post, They're.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Like, hell, I ain't know it's on postal page.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Because I will.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Repost two sixty five I will miss saying two sixty
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: five days a year, I will repost underground Railroad. I
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: will post it all because at the end of the day,
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: who don't say crazy shit? Sometimes who the hell is
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: sitting at home with their family and they hear be like,
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: oh you the bembo with a family.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Like it happens, people say crazy things. It is what
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: it is.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: But when it comes to doing business and having a
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: mindset to build a very successful brand, I also have
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: that women are multifaceted. I am goofy is hell, Okay,
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: I'm silly. I know how to how to have a
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: good time, but I also know how to compartmentalize things
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: in my life and make family and business a priority.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: I also know that I come from legacy and I
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: want to leave a legacy for my daughter.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: And I've practiced these things.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: In my life a long time ago, and I do
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: recognize that on TV people love like, honestly, it's so funny.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: If people are watching me on TV and I don't
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: say something funny for a couple of episodes.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: They're like, ooh shit, too serious.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: They need me to call Japan, you know, to Japan,
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: China or whatever the hell.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: They need all of that from me. And I'm okay
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: with that. Like, have a laugh, because I'm gonna.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: Have a laugh too, but just no on my laugh.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: I'm laughing to the day A bank. You know what
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, I'm handling business at the end of the day.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: And you know, for me and my real.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: Life, and I'm not saying household, this is not my
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: real life. But with my meaningful friends, I talk to
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: them about having a trust. I talk to them about,
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: you know, doing their having a trust, putting everything into
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: that trust, making sure that they protect themselves, making sure
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: they have great life insurance, making sure that their wills
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: are in place, making sure I mean, these are things
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: that I'm talking about.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: It took me two years to do. I just not
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: finished one not long ago.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: These are things that I've done that people in my
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: position don't normally think about. People don't normally think about
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: when you make money, Okay, you know, paying your taxes
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: on time and different things like that. I pay attention
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: to those things and anything that I don't know, I
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: hire someone who's a specialist in that. And I have
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: done very well at doing my due diligence with my finances.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: And it's okay to people don't know that because a
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: lot of times you don't need to know that.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: You know, I think they having a good time.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: That's cool too, you know what I mean.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I think you could do ball, especially for you because
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you you are listen and when I say again, I'm
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: not blowing smoke.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Up your ass.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: When it comes to a current black woman on reality
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: television who is currently on their show right filming. Currently
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: you are the number one black female reality star, thank you?
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Are you?
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Are it?
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Thank you?
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: So when I say you're a black Kim Kardashian, I
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: wasn't trying to compare you to a white woman. What
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: I was trying to do was say something that could
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: make people be like, what does he mean by that?
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: And do their research right, Because.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: It's okay for Kim to say, I got scams, I
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: got all these things. You have Pampa Bay, Porsche, you
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: have go naked hair, you have all of these things,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: and you get to que check my housewise child, Yes
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: how much?
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: And I have a all around deal with NBC Universal,
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: I have a production company. I'm a successful actress as well.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: Like I have a lot of things going. I think
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: maybe some points I have done myself an injustice and
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: not popping my shit, you know, like my manager tells
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: me sometimes she's like Porsche, it's okay to say these
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: things it's okay to say, just speak more about the
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: business side of things that you do.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: I think sometimes I shy away from it because maybe.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: I lean in a little more on the housewife side
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: when I'm doing housewife interviews. But you know, I just
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: did an interview for Forbes and had a very thank
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: you and had a very important, insightful interview about my
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: mind as an entrepreneur.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: My mother was an entrepreneur, very successful.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: She opened the first twenty four hour childcare center in Georgia,
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: probably all over back then nineteen eighty two. My father
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: was an entrepreneur. He also was an attorney. That whole
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: side of the family are attorneys. He owned a chemical company.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: My grandfather, Refin Jose William's own the same chemical company,
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: Terry Enterprise. So I have grown up with the entrepreneurial spirit.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: I've been working in business ever since I was seventeen
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: years old. But I'm also you know, fluffy with the hair,
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: also loved to hear makeup. I also, you know, have
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: this big charisma type of person and that's what won
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: me over on TV. But now where I am now,
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty six, Porsche, I would love to show all
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: aspects of who I am, and I think that's why
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: this season, particular season seventeen of Housewives, I show up differently,
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: and I think it's a little difficult for the girls
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: to take and I think it's going to run the
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: girls crazy and it's probably gonna end up making them
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: look like the bembo because I'm actually showing up as
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: the other side of Porsche.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember, Paris.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Hilton did an interview and she spoke about having adhd
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: or I'm sorry adadd I'm not sure which one, but
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: one of the two.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: And in that same interview, she was speaking in.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: Her regular voice and she spoke about how she built
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: her own business outside of her family's business, and people
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: were like shock, Like wow, that's another side of her.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: We thought she was just like it's hot, no, no, bitch.
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: She also told you was hot, but she was making it.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: Hot at the bank.
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: She was handling business, and it had nothing to do
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: with her family, nothing to do with her billion dollar husband.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: It was who she was. She just played off the
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: other side.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: And I think I've leaned into that enough enough, and
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: I think again, and I know I take it back.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: I think I know this season I showed up as
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: who I am now Porsche Williams, who's turning forty five
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: this year. And you know when I want When my
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: daughter watches the show, people always ask me. They're like, oh,
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: what do you What do you think pol Larn's gonna
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: think what she watched the show?
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: What do you want her to think? Oh? I would
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: like to see her see me evolve. I want her
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: to see me and know that as a woman you
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: can reinvent yourself.
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: How dare I come back this season and not show
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: how present I am and who I am and yeah,
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: if something is happening to me, I ain't got to
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: show the back of my goddamn people like you know,
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: I can sit up and have a real conversation with
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: you and be like, no, I absolutely didn't mean to
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: offend you by saying pregnancy.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: No I I And if you took it that way,
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: I take accountability. I want to see her. I want
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: her to watch this season and see her mommy evolve.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: And I think I owe her that I owe my
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: young fans that who meet me and they say I
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: grew up watching you. I know that I owe the
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: women who are my same age that is well because
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: they've gone through divorces, you know, miscarriages, They've gone through
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: losing best friends, they've gone through losing businesses.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: They deserve to see me.
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: Be present right now and show this new mature Porsche
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: who also has a good time, but that other side
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: of who I am.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: So I'm really proud of who I was this season.
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know how the fuck is gonna be edited,
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: but I know how I showed up and I'm okay
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: with that.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: And I want to get into that too. Before I
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: get to that, you talk about all your businesses. How
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: much are your business is worth?
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm still modest.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: I know I just dropped the number of Go naked sales,
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: but I'm still very modest.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Are you the richest black female reality star on a
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: TV show currently?
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: I would Maybe you'll see Forbes coming up next year
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: and you'll be able to answer that question for yourself.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Are you worth more than twenty million dollars?
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: Again?
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: You'll be my clothes?
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: Or or am I near the I'm blessed, I'm blessed,
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: you are are you?
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Are you? Are you blessed? Where you know? God put
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: me out of blessing where may not have enough room?
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: To receive it.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: So well, I got wrong to.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: I can all of it in ignance, Lord right now
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: on me.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: I could, I could, I could receive all of it.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: But what I can tell you is what's in my
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: bank account. It doesn't really speak to just oh, it's
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: just she got a lot of money.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: No, I have a lot of wealth, and I'm very,
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: very rich in me. I know you don't like that
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: fucking an so because you want to know how much,
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: But I'm very I'm very rich here.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: No, I can tell your richest spirit, your richest skin.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: You're rich and beauty, You're rich in love. So you're
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: worth more than twenty million dollars.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: Carlos. We're not about to sit here.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: No, I think that you are the richest black female
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: reality star that's currently on television.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Listen.
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: I have earned my place and I have been very
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: responsible of finances. My businesses are successful because I have
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: always been the type of public figure.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: I just can't put my name on anything.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: I have all kind of stuff come to me.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: But when I tell you my pamper By porsa sheet
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: company that derived from the love from my mom napping
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: in her bed while she was at work.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: Go Naked hair came from me going through divorcement cordional.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, I know, I had to find an
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: identity and I found it through hair like fun hair
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: like I wore my hair like this today because I'm like,
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: I feel fucking free. You know, I wore red because
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: I'm boss dish. You know, hair is a way for
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: us to express ourselves. I wore a bob on Housewives.
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: When I need to handle business, I only partner and
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: do businesses that I am very passionate about, so I
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: know I'm always going to be successful when it comes
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: to business.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: I wrote a book by the Way Gone Hand Drop
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: that show my well. I wrote a.
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: Book because at this point in my life, I have
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: been asked many years to write a book, many years, and.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: I just feel like I was ready. I was like, well,
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: we write a book. My life is still gone.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: I still have so many things, But at this point
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: in my life, I said, you know what this embodies
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: where I'm at, the pursuit of Porsche, the pursuit of
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: who I am authentically is a big deal, and it's
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: a big deal to me relatively to my life and
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: being a reality start right, because as a reality start,
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: everybody tells you who they are. Oh, you you, you this,
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: you that they judging you. You can, you know, shape
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: yourself by what people are saying to you. So for
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: me to be in pursuit of Porsche and really anunderstand
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: who I am, find my power, find my purpose, it's
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: something that's relative to me in the reality world, but
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: it's also something every woman and every man has to do.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: At some point.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: You have to let the shackles go of what society
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: is telling you. Oh, you got to have kids by
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: a certain age. Oh you can't day a woman.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: Oh you can't.
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: You know, you don't need to be in that business. Hell,
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: your damn mind may be working against you. Your mind
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: may be telling you that you're a fucking imposter. You
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: have to let go of all of that and say, no,
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be in pursuit of what's in my heart.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: Because at the end of the day, what ended up
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: being in my heart is what God gave me. And
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: I used to say that all the time before. I
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: used to say, you know what, we have God's gift
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: in us. We just have to tap into it.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: And so this book was the very moment where I said,
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: you know what.
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: I'm want to let the world end on the Porsche
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: outside of the show, the Porsche, outside of the giggles,
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: outside of the controversy, who I really am and how
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: I got to where I am. And so I just
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: feel like, at this point in my life, I'm very old,
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: I'm very honest. But you're not gonna get me to
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: tell you how much I'm working.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Noel I got when I see it in Forbes, he jabari, Okay, job,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: when I see in the Forbes, just no, you heard
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: it her first?
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, first, she's number one. I want to get to
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: season seventeen. I love this season. I actually and I
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: told you this. I love last season too.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Yes, I love so even though I felt like I
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: was going through was like, I love it.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I love that bitch. This is crazy, I said, I
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: love it. But I'm gonna tell you what I did
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: not love.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: Tell me Carlos, because you know you are the producer
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: of the producers when it comes to Housewives, Baby, I
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: could tell you one thing.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: I wish she was on that season. I mean, I
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: I do give respect to the producer we had, but Baby,
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: if you was.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: On some of these these recent seas, thank you you're
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: so sweet.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: No, I don't love what happened and what happened return
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: you and Shamiyah okay, because I was there with you
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: from the beginning, right, and I know how much love
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: it was there. And I remember last season when it
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: felt like there was this air that Porsche did not
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: want to share the spotlight with her friend. It was
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: the air of listen, we're gonna speak candidly Shemia. Then
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: an interview with Candy and intimated that you did not
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: call her when she got the peach right, and you
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: eventually sent the text of something. Then you cleared it
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: up and said I called you. Then the answer I
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: text you. But besides all of that, one thing I
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: said on my Monday night live show, I said I
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: need to know this, and I said, I gotta ask
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Porsia this whenever I said with her, did Shemia ever
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: once come to you and say, hey, friend, I want
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: to be a housewipe of Atlanta.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Put your girl on.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: First of all, I say this, I shy away from
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: talking about Shemiah in recent interviews just because in season
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: seventeen she did something so low down, so disrespectful, so hurtful,
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: and so unwarranted that I just I do shy away
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: from speaking about her because what ended up happening.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: Out of nowhere.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: It was something that just taught me, Okay, you really
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: probably shouldn't speak at the speak about this person too much.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: You should probably just you know, step back and let
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: her have it, you know what I mean. It really
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: got to that place.
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: And because at the end of the day, this show,
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: yes it's a show, you know, but our friendship was
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: real and.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: Her still being on the show, I had to.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: Come into this season knowing, Okay, you know what, we're
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: no longer friends, we no longer have a relationship at all.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: But you know what, she's got her position and she
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: should shine period, like she's gonna shine. I always knew it.
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: I always rooted for it. It's all I wanted in
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: the beginning for her.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: It's all I would root for it behind the scenes
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: for her.
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: And just because she and I are not close or
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: have any relationship doesn't mean we can't be on the
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: show and just coexist. And so I tried to do
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: that the best of my best of my ability, but
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: it did get very bad in the end of the show,
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: like she ended up bringing something and I was like,
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: this is out of the blue, like I had we
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: had actually started Kiki and and stuff, and it just
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: so I do shy away from speaking about her, just
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: because I just don't understand what's there. It seems to
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: be something that I I'd rather not engage with.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: I've just moved on. It's a lot of women on
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: this season. It's almost nine.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Eight housewives, eight housewives. Cynthia makes a friend of nine nine.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's a lot of people to engage with.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: So it really doesn't take that much away from the show,
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It's not like because she
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: and I aren't close that it's taken away. It's not
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: I found my people. She's got her people, and that's
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: pretty much how we work it.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna move on from her and stick to see
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: seen the.
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: Seventeen Hold like you got something on your eylash right,
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: or do you wanna blow it with my hannasy breath?
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: Talk about a good blow?
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Young's sorry.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: What I will say is this. What I will say
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: is this.
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: All I can do is focus on where the love
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: is for me, where the friends are for me, where
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: the people who want to understand me. I can say
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: that this season, there are some people who feel like
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: they are set on not understanding me because of certain alliances.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: I do feel like there are people who might have
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: been colored against wanting to truly get to know me.
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: And I can tell that because if I'm coming open armed,
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: and you know, authentic and apologetic or honest or loving,
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: how could you not want to understand that? How could
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: you not accept that? But for a couple of people,
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: it's not being accepted, and that's cool.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: It is what it is.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: One of the things that happened in a recent episode
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: that I would like to get you to clear the
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: air on was the conversation about that Chemist show had
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: the miscarriage comment. I'm sure you say all the comments.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: It seemed to be pretty split whether or not you
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: intentionally meant it to harm her or it was just
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: something that you know, you said off the top of
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: your dome. You are somebody who is an ambassador for
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: the March of Dimes. You are somebody again going back
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: to season six where you talked about having a miscarriage
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: right and you cried about the fact that you were
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: there per week and Cordell didn't only show them one time,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: like this is something that you have you dealt with.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: What would you like to say?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Because cay Michelle did do tweets even after the episode
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: air where we saw the episode in and it seemed
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: like y'all, huggod all, everything is good, but then the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: tweets started to happen afterwards where she sort of is
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: doubling down on she doesn't trust you.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: What do you have to say about that?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: I think that's another situation where someone has decided that
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: this is the route they need to take. I don't
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: think this is a route that ky Michelle needs to
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: take or has to take. I think it's the wrong road.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, if you have
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: been watching the show and then you were finally on
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: the show, you decide this is how you're gonna enter,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: this is how I'll make my mark, then it is
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: what it is.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: This is the game she decides to play.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: And I only say that because whether or not, and
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: I will say when I said it to her, I
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: had first asked her, was it okay?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: Did she want to openly speak about her situation? Number two?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: The reason why I asked her did she want to
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: speak about it? On camera is because I didn't know
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: specifically what it was.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: No one told us.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: Even when I text Ky Michelle prior to that scene
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: at the nail shop, I was like, hey, you in
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: the hospital, you know, are you okay? She said, oh, yeah,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: you know, I had to have a procedure or whatever.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: She never told me what it was for, so I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: had no idea which part of her was, you know,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: a problem.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: I had no idea. So of course, as a woman,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: I know we making TV.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: It is what it is.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna just sit here and start asking her
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: about what she was in the hospital for, what procedure
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: if she's not ready, So I wanted to first say, hey,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: are you good talking about it? Because at the end
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: of the day, I don't care if this is our
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: job to speak about personal stuff or not. I don't
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: care if she talked about it in a scene with
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: her doctor on camera or not. If I then need
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: to pivot the conversation away from specifics, I'm gonna do that.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: But she said yeah, I'm okay, yeah, and she proceeded
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: to tell us what was going on.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: Unfortunately, she was burying the lead. I mean, she went
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: on to the store for a while before she.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Even mentioned it was her bottom during that time.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: You know, we're standing there and I'm like, oh, when
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: she was describing sounded mirrored what I had been through.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: You're sitting there in a pool of fluid. Same thing.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: It happened to me prior to having Polla's my rainbow baby,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: but I had a miscarriage at home by myself. Woke up,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: same thing. So I was like, oh, so it came
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: to my was it a miscarriage? Right after that, Shen said, girl,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: I thought the same thing. We moved on with the conversation.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: She continued to describe more fluid that did not have blood.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: Cynthia then said, like your water broke. We're women, all
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: of us are in a trusted space. We all have uteruses,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: but we're talking about things that we all had been through.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: We're all trying to relate to her, for her to
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: open up and you know, talk about what she's got
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: going on. So in that moment, I didn't feel anything.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: I didn't, you know, think that anything had offended her.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: It wasn't until I met with her at the lunch
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: table and she was like, oh, what's when you said miscarriage?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: I was taken back, you know.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: Like, oh my god, how could you think that I would,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: you know, try to offend you or you know, call
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: you out, or even oh, my god, make fun of
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: you about a miscarriage.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: And I could have gone all like, how could you think?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: But I said, you know what, respect how she feels,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: whether she thinks I meant it, whether I did not
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: mean it, whatever my intentions were, this is how she feels.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: So in that moment, I said to her, I apologize
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: forget my excuse of oh I have been through before,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: because none of that fucking matters if you genuinely feel
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: like what I said offendsh you?
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, I hear you, and I'll never do that again.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: I'll be careful and make sure that I temper or
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: wait till you go ahead and say what was going on.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: So in that moment, I felt like we care We
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: handled that conversation very adult, very mature, And I remember
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: telling her at that lunch table, I said to her,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: I said what I want to do with you.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: I want to show you how I friend.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that my friend better than her,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: but I wanted to give her a different experience in
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: Atlanta because she had cried to me about being in
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: Atlanta and having a friendship group which was from Love
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: and hip Hop, and they treated her wrong and they
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: ran out of here and they were so unfair to her.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: And I told her that day.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: That day, she told me that story, and I told
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: her that day at that lunch table, I said, I
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: know what you've been through, and I know.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: What triggers you have. I know you could be sensitive.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: I said, I want you to know I'm not there, girl,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: and the people who I have around you, Cynthia and Phaedria,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: were not those girls. I am the type of person
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: I want to protect my friend.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: I want to be there for you, and I'm genuine.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: So I told her, I'm gonna show you how I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: friend and the way we're having this conversation right now,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: I appreciate you coming to me.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about it. I also want to talk to
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: you now.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: At the time, I had no idea she had done
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: a whole scene with Pinky and a scene with Cynthia
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: calling me dumb and this and then that.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh goodness, well.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: You watched up for the first time. Did that? How
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: did it make you feel?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: So when I watched, when I watched, came Michelle go.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: When I watched Michelle make me. When I watched Michelle,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: her punishment was too hard for what she called the crime.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: I said, okay, I picked them up on a text
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: her because that's how I am as Candy. Anybody as
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: your raye if you do, you know, I'm a text
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: right away as I'm watching the show, and I said, Hey,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: I just want you to know I'm watching the show
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: and I see that you still didn't feel or you
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: were still upset with you know, me speaking to you
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: about the situation. I said, I want you to know
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: I am sincere and that I never would have wanted
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: to offend you about that. When I spoke with Shmia,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: she never told me any detail. You never told me
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: anything of a detail of your bottom.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: You know it.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: I never would have done that, And I just want
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: you to know from my heart, even though I saw
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: her call me all them names, I was like, fuck
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: all that. Let me make her as a woman. Understand
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: that at the root of it, I never would have
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: made fun of you. She said, Okay, I truly appreciate that, etc.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: And you know, I appreciate you reenterating that you didn't
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: know were blah blah.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: So I said, Okay, cool, put the phone down. We
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: were done. Oh my god.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: The next day she's tweeting saying, oh, well, you know
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: what if you was to die and what'd you doubling down?
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, I see what I'm dealing with.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: I said, I'm dealing with and I listen. I don't
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: want to go too hard on Ca Michelle. I just
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: say this in general, as a person in any space.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: You could be at work, they could be a family member.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: It could be if you are in any group and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: you are talking to somebody and they don't have a
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: heart to understand you. They don't want to understand you.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: It could be for whatever reason ratings or want to
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: be want to be right, or just want to see
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: you it's wrong. They're never gonna understand. They're never gonna
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: actually say out loud, oh I understand, because they're too
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: busy trying to do something else, whatever that else may be.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: So I said, okay, cool.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: So at this point, you know, I know what else
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: happens in the season, And although she's funny and she's adorable,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: I don't know how it's gonna go over. I don't
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: think that what was happening with her and Drew is
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: gonna go over as well as maybe she thinks it will.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: I don't, And I think, if I'm being honest, I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: think that when she looks back at this first season,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: she'll probably be like, Oh, I probably chose the wrong
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: team and I probably should have gone about things in
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: a more authentic way.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: You think that's the team she told me that should
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: be a pinky.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know, because I wasn't. I wasn't privy to
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: those conversations. I wasn't you know, I'm not a part
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: of it, you know what I mean?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: But I think that she is a cool girl.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: But Housewives isn't that Housewives at the root of what
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: our fans want to see. Back in the day, when
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: you were producing this show, it's about what's honest and
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: if you're talking to someone, girl, we wish somebody would
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: apologize to us.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: Back in the day, we used to be like, dam
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: can you just apologize? Can you just understand you hurt
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: by feelings? And you still would get an apology, you know,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: you know, or whatever it was.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: And if you had an issue with somebody, it was
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: a real damn issue, like and you felt it, you
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: really felt it, and so that's what this is. It's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: not like little nick Knack paddywag let me just drag
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: this bitch for a bone.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: No, we used to have you know what I'm saying.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: We used to have real stuff going on.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: So when it comes to like the audience looking at
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: the show and they're like, she says she was sorry,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: even if she meant even if she did do it,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: she apologized, and you're still riding it. Ah, this looks
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: like you're trying to drag it. You know, this looks
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: like you're doing the most and so but you know,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: it's her first season. She was already an established star.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: She will be a star far beyond this show. She
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: will have a great career on this show.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: I just think that this season will probably be a
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: learning lesson for Gave Michelle.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well before I let you go, I need
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: you didn't know you broke my heart? Why?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Because I'm gay and you're gay, So of course my surprise,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like, we're both a part of the community. Okay,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: so I'm the g Okay, what are you pan sexual?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: Port what's your sexual?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Bit?
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Bitch? Watching the show? I watched so of this episode.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Mike came back I said, way, bitch, Mike started a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: bit of a sway.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Mike came back, first.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: Of all, in that it's the Bachelorette on Housewives. It's
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: the Bachelorette on Housewives. Put both shows together.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Would you do the Bachelorette?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: No, I'm very much in love. I'm very much happy
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: where I'm at. No, I'm in a relationship with is official?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Yes? No meaning, are y'all dating in a relationship?
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: We're in a relationship.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: You're like girlfriend girlfriend, Yes, that is my partner. I
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: didn't know that.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, so I lost my chances quite some
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: time now. Oh yeah, sorry, baby. We could play from
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: afar because she knows you ain't gonna do nothing.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Were gonna play.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: We canna bump titty, you know what I mean?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Well, congratulations, So when did you know you was into women?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: I always knew.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: I knew that I was into boys.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure around that time. Yeah, I was.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Ever.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna hunt you everybody. You didn't met a girl? Boy,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: we've just come over. How can we put these two
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: things together. Let's bump belly buttons, and I ain't care
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: what was below the belly button.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: So at that point I said, yeah maybe, so, yeah,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: you think it's it didn't matter. It didn't. I had
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: middle girlfriend in elementary school and everything.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: You did not have a girl elementary school.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: She had blonde hair. We used to go to the
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: tire backship. Yes, oh my god.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, my first boyfriend as something was Ax was a
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: white boy. Really, I was so bad. I'm gonna say Minnesota,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: I was definitely in a private school, and we definitely
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: had our favorite time. We go over there and do
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: a little smooth Yeah, just little and just cute and whatever.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I but as an adult, when
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: you're really thinking about your sexuality, I knew that I
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: was attracted to women.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: I just did never envisioned it being like a true lifestyle.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: And I think that.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: With what came with my last divorce came me honestly
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: saying what do I want for my life?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: Where could my heart lead me?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: If I were to ever be in a re another relationship,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: How can I do that as authentic as I can?
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: What what does that look like?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: And so as I dated Mike and as I dated Patrice,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: I said, you know what, I'm gonna go with the
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: energy that feels the best to me, I'm gonna go
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: where the energy and the.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Love feels like home.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: And I found that with her. I j I just
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: found it with her, and I said, you know what,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: I'm a dude, just like I do any other relationship.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: I'm'a walk bold in this and it ended up being
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: like the biggest coming out story ever. But to me
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: it felt natural because I was doing something that was
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: true to me.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: It didn't.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: It didn't feel like, oh my god, you know, now
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: Porsche's dating a woman. Everybody else probably reacted to a
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: way more than I was in the moment. I was
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: just enjoying her and you know me, I'm a hopeless romantic.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: I just want to scream from the rooftop. You know
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: Everybody needs to know.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: You know, I am with her and I am happy
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: and it's the best thing ever like I and so
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: I think that's how I presented it.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: And you're in love.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: I'm in love.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Congratulations and listen. My advice to you is this, enjoy
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: the moment, do you know what I mean? Like there's
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: nothing to rush into in terms of like marriage and
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. Like when I look at you now
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: I'm known you for over ten years. And I will
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: say this, and I mean this. This is the first
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: time where I feel like you're lighter and freer. You
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: feel like you feel more freer than you've ever been
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: in your life. And I think a lot of it
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: have to do with and I resonate with this, and
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: I do understand what you mean when you say sometimes
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: karma is a blessing. Yeah, And it determines how you
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: look at it. And I think everything you have gone
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: through Portie led you to this woman today. You are
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: operating your purpose, You're operating your pursuit of happiness. I
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: see that just based on everything you're doing, you have
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: matured in ways that makes me proud to call you
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: a friend, makes me proud to call you a star.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: You are all of those things to me, and I
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: want you to know that me and the rest of
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: the fans, you know, the poorchefs, you know, you know,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: we're very we're very proud of you, and and I
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: really want you to know that.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: So what can we expect for you next though, Because.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: There's gonna be wedding veils in the future, or an
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: another baby you want.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: You know, a baby. The baby subject is difficult.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: It is that just so happened to go to the
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: doctor today and found out that my firebroys have returned.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: So when it comes to the fertility journey, it's it's
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: it's one that just doesn't stop, you know what I mean.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: And fireboards are, unfortunately, the gift that keeps on giving.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: And so I don't think that me being able to
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: carry a child is in my future.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: So that was difficult. That literally just happened today. I'm sorry, No,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: it's okay.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: So I don't I don't know what that looks like.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: I I definitely always wanted another child.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: Pel polaris my world. She's everything, and I knew she
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: was gonna be my world. I knew she was gonna
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: be my life saver. I knew she was gonna get
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: me purpose and drive and everything. I just did wanna
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: add I did wanna have another child. And so I
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: don't know, I don't know what that looks like. I'm
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: not rushing it, you know. Look, us as women were
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: always on the time clock, you know, especially at my age.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: I actually think I'm probably pre menopausal. I'll talk about
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: it all the time with the girls on the show.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: I talked about it. It was a great conversation I
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: had with the girls on the Ultimate Girls Trip. Because
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: there are women of certain age, we just go through
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: a lot, and you know, when it comes to thinking
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: about having another child, I'll just have to see how
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: that works out.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: Fortunately I'm with a woman who's younger.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: You never know, but I was she carry like the
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: brad Dead for Judy.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I I don't know, I don't know. Those are
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: conversations to be had later on.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: I just wanted to see what my body was doing,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: and unfortunately I am you know, that's not in you know, physically,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: I'm not able to do it. But you know, as
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: far as envisioning marriage and all those things, of course
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: I would love that.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: But I definitely am enjoying where I am.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: I'm thoroughly enjoying Porsche, and I thoroughly enjoy how I'm
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: showing up in this relationship, and it's just so good.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: Like where we are.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: These we're taking steps. You know, in the past, I've
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: skipped the damn steps.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: Honey.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, what three months in we looking at rings,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: what we're doing, Let's get married, big wedding, let's plan
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: you know. But I'm enjoying these steps with her. And yes,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: she knows how fast I have moved in my passing
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: relationships and she can respect that. Now I'm slowing it
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: down with her. She's slower paced herself. You know, she's
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: forty one years old. So we both know that this
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: next relationship for us is one we are truly invested
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: in when we want to be a forever relationship. I
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: would love for her to be my forever partner, but
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: I'm willing to do the work. And that's what we're
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: doing right now. We're doing the work and we're just
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: fucking enjoying each other. I mean, you can see my Instagram.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: We haven't a b I know I blocked her. You
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: know better better Betty try to block sway, Honey. I'm like,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: I don't see this ship.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: I know, honey, and she on the same time as
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: the extra as me. Honey, if you were a hater,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: you was gonna be sick.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sick. I'm hurd of her.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you, just don't follow us right now.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: I can't follow you, though, I don't say you.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: About to see it.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, byeway, I will un block you. Okay, we'll do that.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: But look, I've enjoyed this. This has men the world
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: It has been you ask me, what's next up? Don't
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: skip that?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Oh I thought you would. You know it was Sway
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: was the answer.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: But Sway is definitely most definitely a part of it.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: I am definitely gonna be producing more with my with
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: my production company.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: I'm also really thinking about releasing volume two of the
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: Pursuit of Porsche. I am, I'm thinking about it. And
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: also Go Naked is expanding again. So we have Cynthia
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: Bailey who has and by the way, can we just
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: give it up for the Cynthia Bailey wig.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: This is her This is her wig raw version hair.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: This is the kinky. I'm obsessed, like I'm like Cynthia,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: I can't damn take it off.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: So Cynthia has her own wig line. She has two
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: different textures. She has this uh this textra kinky. She
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: also has a highlight wig than Drew Sodora. Yes, we
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: love so Dora is back home. Honey, my baby came back.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 5: She missed me, I miss her, So we're back and
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: she has her own line as well. She has blonde
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: and she has beautiful auburn wig with us as well,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: and I have a couple other celebrities who are in
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: line to also do their own wig line. So Go
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: Naked is totally expanding, Pamper by Portia is expanding. We're
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: gonna have Duves printed everything within the next year. So
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just really excited for what's to come.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 5: And I have to say again before we leave, to
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: you and to supporters, thank you for being on this
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: journey with me. Honestly, I truly love you all.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: I know that over the years you all have had
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: to give me tough love.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I know that.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 5: A lot of people when it comes to my type
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: of celebrity, because you know, on my shows, some people
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: are gonna do stuff nobody give them about, right, they're
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: a cook cate list. But me, they really care about
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: everything I do. And I don't say that like, oh
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  Speaker 5: you care what I do? No, I say because they
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  Speaker 5: actually care. They've been on this journey with me. They
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  Speaker 5: have you know, hopes and dreams, they have things they
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  Speaker 5: want me to do with and like, oh, we don't
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  Speaker 5: do that. But I appreciate all of a good, better
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  Speaker 5: and different. You know, it comes with it when we're family.
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  Speaker 5: And I really do feel like a lot of the
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  Speaker 5: housewife fans feel like my family, A.
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  Speaker 4: Lot of them coming to me in person and chastise me. Honey.
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  Speaker 4: They be like, girl, you need to and I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell I tell you.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: So I just wanted to say that from the bottom
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  Speaker 5: of my heart, you know, while you're here in my
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  Speaker 5: home and my heart and my space, that I love you,
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  Speaker 5: and I love everybody who has supported me and you know,
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  Speaker 5: just been with me and continue to rock with me,
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  Speaker 5: because it's a lot to come.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think your father and your grandfather is
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  Speaker 2: saying about you in heaven when they look at when they.
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  Speaker 1: Look at you, Wow.
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  Speaker 5: I would say that my father in particular is proud
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  Speaker 5: of the woman who I am. I know that he
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  Speaker 5: in particular would have wanted to be here, to be
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  Speaker 5: protecting me in a lot of different ways, and I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Have that protection. But I had to build it. I
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  Speaker 4: had to, you know, ask God to step in his place.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that he would be glad that I
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  Speaker 5: made to the space. He'll be glad that I didn't
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  Speaker 5: give up and I survived. You know, because when you're
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  Speaker 5: growing up and you have parents, you don't think about
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  Speaker 5: them dealing with depression. You don't think about them trying
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  Speaker 5: to rebuild or reinvent themselves.
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  Speaker 1: You're just like Daddy.
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  Speaker 4: Do I have this? Mammy?
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  Speaker 1: Do I have that?
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  Speaker 5: And I think now as an adult, him seeing me
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  Speaker 5: and my siblings, he would be glad that we fall
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  Speaker 5: through and that we've become the.
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  Speaker 4: People we are. And as far as my granddaddy, he
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  Speaker 4: would love that I'm badass. He would because he was.
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  Speaker 5: He was the most bad ass civil rights activist you
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  Speaker 5: have ever seen. He was the one who was the
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  Speaker 5: bull in the China cabinet. He was the one who
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  Speaker 5: would rally everybody together. He's the one when he spoke,
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  Speaker 5: you heard passion and purpose. And I think when I
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  Speaker 5: have a lot of moments and I get to speak
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  Speaker 5: and I have passion and purpose, I think that's him
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  Speaker 5: speaking through me. I think that's him empowering me as
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  Speaker 5: well to know that I can do anything, I can
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  Speaker 5: speak life into anything.
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  Speaker 4: So along with my along with my mother, I know
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  Speaker 4: that they are the forces that.
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  Speaker 5: Are behind me and just taking care of me out
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  Speaker 5: here in this world. You know what I'm saying, and
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  Speaker 5: I truly appreciate it. I appreciate you asking me that
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  Speaker 5: I don't need to think about them often in these spaces,
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  Speaker 5: so I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: I know, of course, of course they're here, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I love you. I love you too,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: You.
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  Speaker 2: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
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