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Welcome to another edition of the Urantia Radio podcast.
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I am a longtime reader and student and fellow in studying
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the. 5th Epical. Revelation, the Urantia book,
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and in this episode, we're going to begin to.
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Talk about the apostles. And read from the Urantia book,
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particularly one paper 139, and delve into who these unique
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personalities were. They were part of the initial
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team that Jesus had assembled when he went about undertaking
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the public tour the final years. Of his life.
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These were his best friends. These were his.
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Brothers. These were the ambassadors of
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the Kingdom that Jesus. Brought to the world.
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And I think that you'll find it a very fascinating read.
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As a matter of fact, it is of historical note that two, maybe
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3 of the people involved in the early printing and then the
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promotion of the Urantia. Book say that.
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For a long time, in reading and studying the book, they weren't
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convinced it was an authentic revelation until they read.
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What we're about to. Read today Paper 139 the.
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Apostles of Jesus. And we'll start with two
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definitively interesting. Characters The youngest apostle
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and the last apostle. John Zebedee and.
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Judas Iscariot when we. Continue in just a moment on the
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Urantia. Radio Podcast.
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Welcome back to the. Ranch Radio podcast to Jim
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Watkins It's. Good to have.
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You here and every once in a while.
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Before we get to the. Readings of John Zebedee.
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And and Judas Iscariot because we took a take a look at the
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apostles. In the Urantia book I I do want
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Started receiving the papers on. The apostles and he.
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Gospels particularly, but he said that the way that the
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Urantia book described the the apostles.
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And in Paper 139. In The Life and Teachings of
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Jesus, section of the Urantia Book Papers, 139.
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That you would have. Such an expose.
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Of the. Apostles and their lives.
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We don't know really much other than what the Bible.
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maybe the Urantia. Book is.
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Speculating, but when you. Read the words.
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It becomes clear that the person who wrote.
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Meredith Sprunger, for many years from the early 60s, he
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actually became friends with William.
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Sadler but. It was by the condition that he
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and fellow ministers had gone to Chicago.
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To question Doctor Sadler. On the book that he had become
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familiar with because Meredith Sprunger was.
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Also very skeptical. Took him almost a year from the
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time his friend Judge Hammerschmidt gave him a copy of
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the book and said, what do you think of this?
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And he was a minister at that time.
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And I believe he had a a church in South Bend Anyway, for years
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and years. Meredith Sprunger.
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Actually took the torch. In many ways from William Sadler
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would be very subtle. But he would integrate some of
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into his. Speeches so this.
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Should tell you something. About the power.
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Of the Urantia book, and particularly since both of those
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gentlemen actually were convinced of the authenticity.
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Of the Urantia. Book as a revelation after
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reading. The Apostles, so I.
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Thought it would be an interesting thing to maybe read
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about John Zebedee and Judas Iscariot 2 extreme.
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Opposites of the Apostles. And then perhaps we'll get into
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some of the. Other apostles later.
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And then at some point I would. Like to read the?
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Urantia Books. Interpretation.
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Of the Gospels. And how they came to be, because
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I find that also very fascinating, especially for
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Christians who want to. Delve a little deeper into
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Scripture. And find out a little bit more
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about these incredible 12 men that.
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Jesus chose to. Carry his message to the world.
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So let us begin. Then from paper 139 and Section
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4, we read about John Zebedee when he became an apostle.
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John was 24 years. Old, and he was.
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The youngest. Of the 12.
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He was unmarried and lived with his parents in Beseda.
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He was a fisherman and. Worked with his brother.
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James in partnership with. Andrew and Peter.
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Both before and after becoming an apostle, John functioned as
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the personal agent of Jesus in dealing with the master's
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family, and he continued to bear this responsibility as long as
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Mary, the mother of Jesus, lived since John was the youngest of
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the 12 and so closely. Associated with Jesus.
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And his family affairs. He was very dear.
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To the Master, but it cannot be truthfully.
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Said that he was quote the disciple.
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Whom Jesus loved. That's from a quote in the
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Bible. You would hardly suspect such.
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A magnanimous personality. As Jesus to be.
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Guilty of showing favoritism, of loving one of his apostles more
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than the. Others the fact that.
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John was one of the three personal aides of Jesus lent
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further color to this mistaken idea.
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Not to mention that John, along with his brother James, had
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known Jesus longer than the others.
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Peter, James and John were assigned as personal aides to
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Jesus soon after they became apostles.
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Shortly after the. Selection of the 12 and at the
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time Jesus appointed Andrew. To act as the director of the
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group. He said to him, now I.
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Desire that you assign two or three of your associates.
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To be with me and to remain by my side, to comfort me and to
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minister to my daily needs. And Andrew thought.
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Best to select for this special duty.
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The next three first chosen apostles he would have liked to.
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Volunteer for such a. Blessed service himself, but the
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Master had already given him his Commission, so he immediately.
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Directed that Peter. James and John attached
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themselves to Jesus. John Zebedee had many lovely.
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Traits of character, but. One which was not.
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So lovely was his. Inordinate but usually well
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concealed conceit, his long association with Jesus made many
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and great changes in his character.
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This conceit was greatly lessened, but after.
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Growing old and becoming more or less childish, this self esteem
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reappeared to a certain extent, so that when engaged in
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directing Nathan in the writing of the Gospels which now bears
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his name, the aged apostle did not hesitate.
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Repeatedly to refer to himself as the disciple.
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Whom Jesus loved, in view of the fact that John came nearer to
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being the chum of Jesus than any other mortal.
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That he was his. Chosen personal representative
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in so many matters, it is not strange that he should have come
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to regard. Himself as the disciple.
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Who whom Jesus loved, since he most certainly knew he was the.
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He was the disciple. When whom?
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Jesus so frequently trusted the. Strongest trait in John's
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character was his dependability he was prompt and courageous,
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faithful and. Devoted, his greatest.
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Weakness was this characteristic conceit.
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He was the youngest member of his father's family and the
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youngest of the Apostolic. Group.
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Perhaps he was just a bit spoiled.
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Maybe. He had been humoured slightly
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too much, but the John of after. Years was a very.
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Different type of person than the self admiring and arbitrary
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young man who joined the ranks of.
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Jesus as apostles. When he was 20.
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Four those characteristics of Jesus, which.
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John most appreciated were the Master's love and unselfishness.
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These traits made such an impression on him.
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That his whole subsequent. Life became dominated by the
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sentiment of love and brotherly. Devotion, he talked about.
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Love and wrote about love this son of Thunder became the.
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Apostle of love. And at Ephesus, when the aged
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Bishop was no longer able to stand in the pulpit and preach.
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But had to be carried to a. Church and a chair and when at
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the. Close of the service, he was
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asked to say a few words to the believers.
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For years his only utterance was my little children love one
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another. John was a man of.
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Few words. Except when his temper.
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Was aroused. He thought much.
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But said little as he grew older.
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His temper became more subdued, better controlled, but he never
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overcame his disinclination to talk.
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He never fully mastered this reticence.
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But he was gifted. With a remarkable and creative
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imagination, there was another side to John that one would not
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expect to find in this quiet and introspective type.
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He was somewhat bigoted and inordinately intolerant.
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In this respect. He and James were much alike.
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They both wanted to call down fire from heaven on the.
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Heads of the disrespectful. Samaritans.
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When John encountered some strangers teaching in Jesus's
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name, he promptly forbade them. But he was not the only one of
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the 12 who was tainted with this kind of self esteem and
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superiority consciousness. John's life was tremendously
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influenced. By the sight.
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Of Jesus going about without a home, as he knew how faithfully
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he had made provisions for the care of his mother and family.
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John also deeply sympathized. With Jesus because of.
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His family's failure to understand him being aware.
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That they were gradually. Withdrawing from him this
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entire. Situation together with Jesus's
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ever. Deferring his slightest.
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Wish to the will of the. Father in Heaven and his daily
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life of implicit trust made such a profound impression on John
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that it produced market and permanent changes in his
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character, changes which manifested themselves throughout
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his entire subsequent life. John had a cool and daring
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courage which. Few of the other apostles
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possessed he was the. Only one who followed right
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along with Jesus at the night of his arrest and dared to
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accompany his Master into the very.
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Jaws of death. He was present and near at hand.
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Right up to the last earthly hour.
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And was found faithfully carrying out his trust.
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With regard to Jesus. 'S mother and ready to receive.
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Such. Additional instructions as might
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be given during the last moments of the Master's mortal
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existence. One thing is certain, John was
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thoroughly dependable. John usually sat on Jesus's
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right hand when the 12 were at meet.
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He was the first of the 12, really.
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And fully to believe in the resurrection.
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And he was. The first to.
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Recognize the master when he came to them on the.
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Seashore after his resurrection. This son of Zebedee.
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Was very closely associated. With Peter in the early.
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Activities of the Christian. Movement becoming one of the.
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Chief supporters of the. Jerusalem Church.
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He was the right hand support of Peter.
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On the day. Of Pentecost several years.
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After the martyrdom of James, John married.
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His brother's widow. The last 20 years of his life.
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He was cared for. By a loving granddaughter, John
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was imprisoned several times and was banished.
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To the Isle of. Patmos for a.
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Period of four years. Until another emperor came to
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power in Rome, had not John been tactful and sagacious, he would
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undoubtedly have been killed. As.
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Was his more outspoken brother James.
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As the years passed. John together with James.
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The Lord's brother. Learned to practice wise
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conciliation when they. Appeared before the Civil.
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Magistrates, they found that a soft.
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Answer turns away wrath. They also learned to represent
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the. Church as a spiritual
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brotherhood devoted to the social service.
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Of mankind rather than as the Kingdom of heaven.
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They taught loving service rather than ruling power,
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Kingdom and king. When in temporary exile on
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Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have
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in greatly abridged and distorted form.
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This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments.
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Of a great revelation large. Portions of which were lost,
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other portions of which were removed subsequent to John's
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writing. It is preserved.
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Only in fragmentary and adulterated form.
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John traveled much, labored incessantly, and after becoming
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Bishop. Of the Asia churches settled
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down at Ephesus, he directed his associate.
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Nathan in the writing. Of the so-called Gospel.
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According to John Ataphysus when he was 99 years old.
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Of all the 12 apostles. John Zebedee eventually became
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the outstanding theologian. He died a natural death
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Ataphysus in AD one O 3 when he was 101 years of age.
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So there you have. The more complete story of John
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Zebedee the. Disciple that Jesus loved.
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Now, in a minute, we're going to take another turn and take a
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look at another. Apostle Judas Iscariot We'll
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take a brief music. Interlude and then continue on
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with our examination. Of the apostles.
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In the Urantia book. All right, let's get into.
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The story of Judas the 12th apostle.
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This is sort. Of the first time that we've.
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Ever, actually. Taken a look at.
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The apostles themselves. And how the urantia?
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Book describes these unique characters that were a part of
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basically Jesus's team. This was the team that he
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assembled. It's a wonderful.
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Story it's. So much more full than what you
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might pick up in the. Scripture.
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Makes it more interesting I think and certainly a more
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thought provoking approach to who these men were, the
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challenges they faced. Their relationship with Jesus
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was unique. That's one good thing about this
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paper 139 is that it goes into the relationships that.
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The each of the apostles had and the appeal to each of their
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hearts. So then, let us read from Paper
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139, section 12 on. Judas Iscariot Judas Iscariot,
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the 12th Apostle. Was chosen by Nathaniel.
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He was born in Kirioth, a small town in southern Judea.
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When he was a lad, his parents moved to Jericho.
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Where he lived. And had been employed in his
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father's various business enterprises until he became
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interested in the preachings and the work of John the.
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Baptist Judas's parents were Sadducees.
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And when their son joined John's disciples, they disowned him
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when Nathaniel met. Judas at Terekia.
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He was seeking employment with a fish drawing enterprise at the
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lowest end. Of the sea of Galilee he was 30
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years of. Age and unmarried when he joined
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the Apostles. He was probably the best
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educated. Man among the 12 and the only
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Judean in the Masters Apostolic family.
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Judas had no outstanding trait of personal strength, though he
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had many outwardly appearing traits of culture and habits of
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training. He was a good thinker, but not
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always a truly honest thinker. Judas did not really understand
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himself and he was not really sincere in dealing with himself.
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Andrew appointed. Judas, Treasurer of the 12A
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position. Which he eminently.
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Was fitted to hold. And up to the time of the
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betrayal of his master. He discharged the
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responsibilities of his office. Honestly, faithfully, and most
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efficiently. There was no special trait about
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Jesus. Which Judas?
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Admired above the generally attractive and exquisitely
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charming personality of the master, Judas was never able to.
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Rise above his. Judean prejudices against his
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Galilean associates. He would even criticize in his
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mind many things about Jesus, Him whom 11 of the apostles
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looked upon as the perfect man, as the one quote, one altogether
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lovely and the chiefest among 10,000.
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This self satisfied. Judean often dared to criticize
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in his own. Heart he really.
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Entertained the notion that Jesus was timid and somewhat
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afraid to assert his own power and authority.
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Judas was a good. Businessman.
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It required tact, ability and patience, as well as painstaking
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devotion to manage the financial affairs of such an idealist as
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Jesus, to say nothing of wrestling.
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With the helter skelter. Business method.
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Of some of his apostles, Judas was a great executive a far.
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Seeing and able financier and he.
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Was a stickler for. Organization.
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None of the 12. Ever criticized Judas as far as
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they could see Judas Iscariot? Was a matchless treasurer, a
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learned man, a loyal though, sometimes.
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Critical Apostle. And at every sense of.
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The world a great success. The apostles loved Judas.
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He was. Really one of them.
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He must have believed in Jesus. But.
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We doubt rather he. Really loved the Master.
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With a whole heart, the case of Judas illustrates the.
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Truthfulness of the saying. There is a way that.
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Seems right to a man, but the end.
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Thereof is death. It is altogether possible to
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fall. Victim to the peaceful deception
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of pleasant adjustment. To the paths.
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Of sin and death. Be assured that Judas was.
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Always financially loyal to his master and his fellow.
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Apostles. Money could never have been the
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motive. For his betrayal.
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Of the master, Judas was an only son of unwise parents.
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When very young, he was pampered and petted.
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He was a spoiled child. As he grew up, he had
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exaggerated ideas about his. Self importance.
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He was a poor loser, he had. Loose and distorted ideas about
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fairness. He was given to the indulgence
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of hate and suspicion. He was an expert at
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misinterpretation of the. Words and acts.
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Of his friends. All through his life, Judas had
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cultivated the habit of. Getting even with those whom he
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fancied had mistreated him. His sense of values.
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And loyalties was defective to Jesus.
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Judas was a faith. Adventure from the beginning of
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the Master fully understood the weakness of this apostle, and
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well knew the dangers of admitting him.
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To Fellowship. But it is the nature of the
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sons. Of God to give.
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Every created being a full and equal chance for salvation and.
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Survival, Jesus. Wanted not only the mortals of
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this world, but the onlookers of innumerable other worlds to know
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that when doubts exist as to the sincerity and wholeheartedness.
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Of a creature's. Devotion to the Kingdom.
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It is the invariable. Practice of the judges.
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Of men fully to receive the doubtful candidate, the door of
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eternal. Life is wide.
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Open to all, quote whosoever will may come.
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There are no restrictions or qualifications, save.
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The faith of. The one who comes.
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This is just the. Reason why Jesus permitted Judas
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to go on to the very end, always doing everything possible to
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transform and save this week and confused.
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Apostle. But when light is not honestly
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received and lived up to, it tends to become darkness within
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the soul. Judas grew intellectually
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regarding Jesus's teachings about the Kingdom, but he did
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not make progress in the achievement.
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Of spiritual character, as did the other apostles, he.
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Failed to make satisfactory personal progress in spiritual
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experience. Judas became increasingly a
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brooder over personal disappointments, and finally he
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became a victim of resentment. His feelings had been many times
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hurt and he grew abnormally. Suspicious of his best.
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Friends even of the master. Presently he became obsessed
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with the idea of getting even anything to avenge himself.
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Yes, even betrayal. Of the.
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Associates and the master. But these?
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Wicked and dangerous ideas did not take definite shape until
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the day when a grateful woman broke an expensive box of
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incense. At Jesus's feet.
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This seemed. Wasteful to Judas?
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And when his? Public protest was so.
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Sweepingly disallowed. By Jesus right there.
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In the hearing of. All it was too.
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Much that event determined the mobilization of all the
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accumulated hate, hurt, malice, prejudice, jealousy, and
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revenge. Of a lifetime.
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And he made-up in his mind to get even with he knew not whom.
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But he crystallized all of the evil of his.
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Nature upon the one innocent person in all the sort of drama
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of his unfortunate. Life just because Jesus.
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Happened to be. The chief actor.
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In the episode which marked his passing from the progressive
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Kingdom of Light into that self chosen domain of darkness, the
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Master many times, both privately and publicly, had
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warned Judas. That he was slipping.
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But divine warnings are usually useless in dealing with
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embittered human nature. Jesus did everything possible
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consistent with man's moral freedom to prevent Judas's
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choosing to go the wrong. Way the great test.
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Finally came the son of resentment failed he.
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Yielded to the sour. And sordid dictates of a proud
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and vengeful mind of exaggerated self importance and swiftly
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plunged on down into confusion, despair and depravity.
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Judas then entered into the base and shameful.
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Intrigue to betray the Lord, his Lord.
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And master and quickly carried the nefarious scheme into effect
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during the outworking of his anger conceived plans of
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traitorious betrayal. He.
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Experienced moments of regret and shame, and in these lucid
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intervals he faint heartedly conceived as a defense in his
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own mind. The idea that Jesus.
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Might. Possibly exert his power.
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And deliver himself at the last minute, when the sordid and
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sinful business. Was all over this.
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Renegade mortal who thought lightly of selling his friend.
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For 30 pieces of silver to satisfy his.
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Long nursed, craving for revenge, rushed out and
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committed the final act in the drama of fleeing from the
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realities of mortal existence, suicide, the 11.
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Apostles were horrified. Stunned, Jesus regarded the
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betrayal only with pity. The world's have found it
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difficult to forgive Judas. And his name has become eschewed
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throughout a far-flung universe. Now, that's not a legacy I would
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want to have, but you can see from the elegance and and the.
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Phraseology of of these. Descriptions of the apostles
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that they come across wholly authentic.
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I can see why. People of great.
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Religious education and faith, namely Dr. William Sadler and
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also Meredith Sprunger, would have been captivated and
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convinced. By these papers about the 12
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apostles. And we may again venture into
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this. Let me know if you like these.
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Short readings of the apostles. I think it'd be great to go.
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Through each one of them, I think each one.
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Deserves a second look. Much of their lives and the
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truths of their lives and the. Relationship with Jesus has been
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lost through. The sands of time, and I enjoy
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reading them. So we'll take a break here.
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We'll see you. Again on the.
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Other side of the. Episodes As we continue with the
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Urantia Radio podcast, Just Remember Your Rancher.
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Radio.org, urantiaradio.org and there's also a.
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