Latest / Presented by Speaking Human / Movies & Marketing: 2025 Summer Movie Draft
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- 0:02Speaker 1: In a world where movies rely on marketing more than
- 0:06Speaker 1: ever to connect with audiences, one podcast aims to make
- 0:11Speaker 1: sense of it all. This is movies and marketing.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Next Saturday Night, where're sending you back to the future?
- 0:21Speaker 2: Go ahead, make my day?
- 0:23Speaker 1: How about now you're crazy Dutch past.
- 0:26Speaker 2: What we've got here is failure, Newgate. Take them around
- 0:32Speaker 2: across all about. We might as well have a good time.
- 0:37Speaker 2: I am an a.
- 0:37Speaker 1: F I agent from the world of MoMA to Jurassic
- 0:49Speaker 1: Superman go full Final reckoning, getting free here and more
- 0:56Speaker 1: fantastically forward as they train their dragons dodge zombies.
- 1:02Speaker 3: I'm trying not to get megan while drafting.
- 1:05Speaker 1: The summer's biggest box office hits.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Well, well, Patrick, this is it.
- 1:13Speaker 2: We have arrived here again. Essentially, this is the purpose,
- 1:18Speaker 2: not just of this podcast, but some would say, of
- 1:21Speaker 2: our lives, our reason for being. The Summer movie draft
- 1:25Speaker 2: an annual tradition dating all the way back to twenty sixteen.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Oh next year, ten year anniversary.
- 1:33Speaker 3: Oh my god, I know we're so old. And by us,
- 1:37Speaker 3: I mean the podcast, the podcast, of course. Yeah, not us,
- 1:41Speaker 3: not us, We're still young in spry. Yeah.
- 1:45Speaker 2: So those who have you been following the summer movie Draft,
- 1:49Speaker 2: which is most people because it's very exciting. The series
- 1:54Speaker 2: currently stands at three to five. That is me, I
- 1:59Speaker 2: have three wins. You have five wins, which is slightly more.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Something amazing happened last year that hadn't happened in a
- 2:09Speaker 2: long long time. I actually won this draft. You see
- 2:15Speaker 2: three five, You're like, that's you know, that's not too bad.
- 2:17Speaker 2: That seems pretty close. It has not been close for
- 2:20Speaker 2: a long long time. The last time I had won
- 2:23Speaker 2: this was twenty eighteen. So it was a big event
- 2:27Speaker 2: for me. Some would say a life changing event. I've
- 2:30Speaker 2: been walking on air pretty much since then. But hits
- 2:33Speaker 2: like Deadpool and Wolverine, Twisters and Long Legs, the surprise
- 2:38Speaker 2: hit of the summer that I called in the draft
- 2:41Speaker 2: propelled me to this momentous victory, changing the course of history.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Some would even say.
- 2:46Speaker 3: Well, changed the course of your history.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not dead in the ditch. No.
- 2:52Speaker 3: Yeah, you were pretty somber prior to last year.
- 2:57Speaker 2: I was spiraling.
- 2:58Speaker 3: Yeh.
- 2:58Speaker 2: After some of those losses.
- 3:00Speaker 3: You thought there was no way back, there was no redemption.
- 3:03Speaker 2: No, it was getting it was getting dark.
- 3:06Speaker 3: You started wearing black eyeliner. He went full emo.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Yeah. I was listening to the Cure a lot. Yeah,
- 3:14Speaker 2: and now there's optimism, there's hope. The question is can
- 3:18Speaker 2: I keep it up? Can I do it again?
- 3:20Speaker 3: Yeah? You're looking for a repeat, because if you can repeat,
- 3:23Speaker 3: you're getting dangerously close to tying up the standings so far.
- 3:28Speaker 3: And I gotta be honest with you, it's always possible.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Like we've talked about, give it enough time.
- 3:33Speaker 2: The trajectory is going to change.
- 3:35Speaker 3: Yeah. Whoever's on the throne, it has to be dethroned
- 3:38Speaker 3: at some point.
- 3:39Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't stay on top forever.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I don't know. We'll see, we'll see. I
- 3:48Speaker 3: know that people are rooting for the underdog Shads, so
- 3:50Speaker 3: they're rooting for you. Yeah, and I'm rooting for you too,
- 3:53Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I really am. I'm thinking if
- 3:56Speaker 3: Shad can pull this off, then maybe maybe there's hope.
- 4:00Speaker 2: There's a chance for all of us.
- 4:02Speaker 3: There's a chance for all of us.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Well, let's find out what's going to happen. The summer
- 4:07Speaker 2: movie season kicks off now with the draft today. Let's
- 4:12Speaker 2: get into it. After we go through the rules very quickly.
- 4:15Speaker 2: For those who haven't listened before, and maybe they don't
- 4:18Speaker 2: know some of the rules or how this game is played. Patrick,
- 4:22Speaker 2: give us the quick lowdown here. Yeah, if you listen
- 4:25Speaker 2: to this every year, sorry, you know, but there are
- 4:28Speaker 2: some new things that little tweaks that we've made over
- 4:31Speaker 2: the years, so it's a little fresh. Yeah, keeps the
- 4:34Speaker 2: game interesting mm hm.
- 4:36Speaker 3: So everyone always loves to know this. We each draft
- 4:41Speaker 3: seven movies. The team whose movies have the highest combined
- 4:45Speaker 3: domestic box office total at the end of the summer wins,
- 4:49Speaker 3: domestic being United States. For our overseas listeners, we don't
- 4:52Speaker 3: count global box office, but we do have a few
- 4:55Speaker 3: specific rules. The main rule is finding the summer movie season.
- 5:01Speaker 3: This is where we differ sometimes from lists online and
- 5:05Speaker 3: all that stuff. That is, any movie released in the
- 5:08Speaker 3: US in the theaters from Memorial Day weekend through Labor
- 5:13Speaker 3: Day weekend, so we always count those two holidays. This year,
- 5:17Speaker 3: Memorial Day is May twenty third, September first is Labor Day,
- 5:22Speaker 3: and then the other caveat to that is only theatrical releases,
- 5:25Speaker 3: so we don't count streaming. We can't verify the numbers
- 5:29Speaker 3: at least yet. Maybe one day they'll do something where
- 5:32Speaker 3: we can, but until then only theatrical releases.
- 5:35Speaker 2: So a big one we have. And this is the
- 5:37Speaker 2: real wrinkle that kind of can change or make this
- 5:42Speaker 2: more strategic than just simply draft it, you know, going
- 5:45Speaker 2: through and drafting. The winner gets to choose between taking
- 5:50Speaker 2: the first pick and the fourth pick or getting picks
- 5:53Speaker 2: two to three consecutively. So as last year's winner, I
- 5:57Speaker 2: get to make this choice. Not an easy pick, as
- 6:00Speaker 2: you know, Patrick, you really got to think this through
- 6:02Speaker 2: and look at the list of movies and figure out
- 6:05Speaker 2: how you want to approach this.
- 6:07Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of strategy in that one choice
- 6:10Speaker 3: that the winner has to make. Last year, I made
- 6:13Speaker 3: a choice and maybe that was the determining factor. I
- 6:17Speaker 3: don't know, But you do have an upper hand when
- 6:20Speaker 3: you get to choose two and three because potentially those
- 6:23Speaker 3: are the two best movies next to each other, sometimes
- 6:26Speaker 3: maybe even better than the first pick that the winner chose,
- 6:30Speaker 3: you know.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Yeah, we also have some other bonuses. We'll kind of
- 6:34Speaker 2: run through these real quick, Patrick, Do you just want
- 6:37Speaker 2: to kind of give an overview of some of these.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Yeah, as a preface, we have four bonuses. Okay, first
- 6:45Speaker 3: one raiders rewards. It's rewards the movie with the best
- 6:49Speaker 3: legs making the most money beyond its opening weekend. So
- 6:54Speaker 3: we name this after Raiders the Lost Arc from nineteen
- 6:56Speaker 3: eighty one, which the Numbers reports is the legis movie
- 7:01Speaker 3: of all time, opening with eight million and ultimately earning
- 7:05Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty five million. So that was pretty good.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Yeah, played for a long time at theaters.
- 7:11Speaker 3: Yeah. Then we have the Wick Award. That's each team
- 7:15Speaker 3: will guess, so Shad will guess, I will guess their
- 7:18Speaker 3: total box office before bonuses during the draft, So we
- 7:23Speaker 3: guess this, and then the team that comes closest to
- 7:26Speaker 3: hitting the target without going over gets a bonus. And
- 7:29Speaker 3: this is obviously named for John Wick, who can seemingly
- 7:32Speaker 3: fire a gun blindly and hit his target or man
- 7:37Speaker 3: or woman Yeah, could be anybody. Yeah, non discriminate. Then
- 7:41Speaker 3: we have the Indie Equalizer, so with each person's final pick,
- 7:46Speaker 3: we have the option of selecting from a list of
- 7:50Speaker 3: films released by independent studios. So if you choose one
- 7:53Speaker 3: of these movies, you'll be awarded the gross of the
- 7:56Speaker 3: movie plus a bonus of three times the growth of
- 8:00Speaker 3: the movie, with the bonus capped at one hundred million, so.
- 8:04Speaker 2: You can get a good bonus off that it's kind
- 8:06Speaker 2: of to you know, level the playing field so the
- 8:09Speaker 2: indie movies can get in there.
- 8:10Speaker 3: Yeah, and this was named for the Equalizer because this
- 8:14Speaker 3: bonus evens the playing field for indie movies, even though
- 8:17Speaker 3: the Equalizer wasn't really an indie movie.
- 8:20Speaker 2: No, but you know, the Equalizer equalized.
- 8:24Speaker 3: Then the most fun and weird and crazy bonus that
- 8:30Speaker 3: we have the option of is trade back to the future.
- 8:34Speaker 3: So this one we installed last year, right, Yeah, that
- 8:38Speaker 3: was the first year. So at the end of the
- 8:41Speaker 3: summer when we tlly the results, each team could choose
- 8:44Speaker 3: to use this one option with one of their picks.
- 8:47Speaker 3: So you trade back in time for a movie that
- 8:51Speaker 3: finished in the domestic rankings the same number as the
- 8:53Speaker 3: pick that you're choosing to replace, so number one through fourteen.
- 8:59Speaker 3: The twist is the year will be picked randomly from
- 9:03Speaker 3: the years nineteen eighty five to twenty twenty four by
- 9:05Speaker 3: spinning a wheel. This is where it gets crazy because
- 9:08Speaker 3: you just it's just random. It's I mean, it's roulette.
- 9:12Speaker 3: Some years could give you a great result, while other years,
- 9:15Speaker 3: you know, you're left wishing you would have kept your
- 9:18Speaker 3: original pick.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Yeah, you might get an upgrade, you might get a downgrade.
- 9:23Speaker 2: This is a real wild card.
- 9:24Speaker 3: Oh yeah. I mean in a year where you're real
- 9:28Speaker 3: close and you have nothing to lose because you're under
- 9:32Speaker 3: this could give you the upper hand.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Yeah, could be the difference maker. And what is this
- 9:36Speaker 2: one name for? In case people don't know.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Oh, come on, the greatest time travel movie of all time.
- 9:43Speaker 3: But it transports a movie from another year into the draft.
- 9:47Speaker 2: So you know, and we said it last year, there's
- 9:50Speaker 2: gonna be a year where the champion is decided by
- 9:54Speaker 2: this bonus the trade back to the future. Well, yeah,
- 9:57Speaker 2: I believe this could be that year. Just how kind
- 10:00Speaker 2: of tightly packed the movies are. It seems like this
- 10:03Speaker 2: is just my interpretation. I look at them, and I
- 10:05Speaker 2: see a lot of movies that I'm like, Ah, they
- 10:07Speaker 2: all seem like they could kind of do the same.
- 10:09Speaker 2: I don't know, if there's like a big runaway gonna
- 10:11Speaker 2: be a huge runaway hit. You don't know. Ah, that's
- 10:14Speaker 2: just me looking at the movies now. But this could
- 10:17Speaker 2: end up being that year.
- 10:19Speaker 3: Yeah. And then you know, this isn't really a rule,
- 10:21Speaker 3: it's an unsaid rule, but smack talking is encouraged during
- 10:25Speaker 3: this draft. You know, it's just like any sporting event, you.
- 10:29Speaker 2: Gotta play the game.
- 10:30Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah. All right, now that you know all
- 10:34Speaker 3: of the rules and you're probably head is spinning because
- 10:37Speaker 3: it's craziness. It's just insanity. Let's get to the draft.
- 10:41Speaker 3: Let's start drafting our movies.
- 10:43Speaker 2: Yeah, let's pick the movie. So we have a list,
- 10:46Speaker 2: you know, of the summer movies, the big summer movies
- 10:48Speaker 2: coming out. We're kind of using that. We're going to
- 10:51Speaker 2: go through as we know, as we discussed, the winner
- 10:55Speaker 2: from last year gets to pick whether they go first
- 10:58Speaker 2: or takes picks two and three reconsecutively. I'm now gonna
- 11:02Speaker 2: make that decision. And that decision is I'm gonna take
- 11:06Speaker 2: the first pick in the draft.
- 11:08Speaker 3: Oh you have confidence?
- 11:11Speaker 2: Well, you know what it is. It's a I look
- 11:13Speaker 2: at these movies and I kind of fell on one
- 11:16Speaker 2: movie that I think is gonna be the biggest hit.
- 11:19Speaker 2: I think this one kind of stands out. I'm taking
- 11:22Speaker 2: a play from you Patrick, the first movie out of
- 11:26Speaker 2: the gates, getting that Memorial Day weekend, making some of
- 11:29Speaker 2: that you know, money, and then we kind of take
- 11:31Speaker 2: off in June, make a bunch of money. I think
- 11:33Speaker 2: This one's gonna be the number one movie this summer,
- 11:35Speaker 2: and that's Lee Low and Stitch. I'm corstraight French. No
- 11:46Speaker 2: dogs on the table, Yeah, Rough, I'm going to give
- 11:54Speaker 2: you to the calf three Stitch. It's gonna hit that
- 12:06Speaker 2: family audience, gonna hit that Memorial Day weekend, start the
- 12:09Speaker 2: summer off strong. I don't think it's gonna do like
- 12:12Speaker 2: Inside Out did last year. Could hit like four hundred
- 12:15Speaker 2: million or something like that.
- 12:16Speaker 3: I think this is a beloved classic, and I think
- 12:18Speaker 3: it's gonna do really well. And I think live action
- 12:21Speaker 3: version is gonna do really well. I'm a little jelly.
- 12:25Speaker 3: I think this would have been on my list for sure.
- 12:29Speaker 2: Would that have been your number one? I guess you
- 12:31Speaker 2: don't have to tell me because that gives away where
- 12:34Speaker 2: you're going.
- 12:34Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, I can't. I don't know if I could
- 12:36Speaker 3: tell you that. I don't know if I could tell
- 12:37Speaker 3: you that. But I have two and three. So I
- 12:42Speaker 3: am going to go with Mission Impossible.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Your team is going to betrayed.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Eth, everything you are, everything you've done, just.
- 13:02Speaker 3: Come to this. That would be in case anybody doesn't know,
- 13:07Speaker 3: that's Mission Colon Impossible, Dash the Final Reckoning. I think
- 13:12Speaker 3: that's how they're playing it out there with the title.
- 13:15Speaker 2: Yeah, which they got rid of the you know, the
- 13:17Speaker 2: other one was Dead Reckoning Part one. People didn't like
- 13:20Speaker 2: that this is no longer like part two, and they
- 13:23Speaker 2: just went with Dead Reckoning Final Reckoning.
- 13:25Speaker 3: Yeah, they improved their naming structure for that. I don't
- 13:30Speaker 3: know if it's really an improvement though, but you know,
- 13:32Speaker 3: so that's May twenty third that hits at the same
- 13:35Speaker 3: time as your Lee.
- 13:36Speaker 2: Low, another big Memorial Day weekend. I love the pick.
- 13:40Speaker 2: I want to see the movie. I think you might
- 13:42Speaker 2: have jumped the gun on this one. Dead Reckoning ended
- 13:45Speaker 2: up with one hundred and seventy three million. Now, granted
- 13:48Speaker 2: that came out at the same time as the Barbenheimer
- 13:51Speaker 2: Yeah phenomenon, which kind of Oppenheimer knocked it off all
- 13:54Speaker 2: the IMAX screens and everything. But might be a little early.
- 13:58Speaker 2: Can Tom get that high? Can he be the number
- 14:00Speaker 2: two movie of the summer?
- 14:02Speaker 3: It might be hard because Lee Lo and Stitch, But
- 14:04Speaker 3: I think those are two different audiences and I think
- 14:06Speaker 3: it's like, right now people are craving that, and you know,
- 14:10Speaker 3: coming into Memorial Day that's gonna be a big one.
- 14:13Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna do close to, if not
- 14:16Speaker 3: roughly the same. And you know, good old Tom he
- 14:19Speaker 3: has a tendency to drive home the box office numbers
- 14:23Speaker 3: for us.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Memorial Day release will bump it
- 14:27Speaker 2: up to as opposed to they usually come out like
- 14:29Speaker 2: July or something like that. So what's your number three?
- 14:33Speaker 3: So my number three, I think I'm gonna go ahead
- 14:35Speaker 3: and take I'm gonna take Superman.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Day. We home.
- 14:49Speaker 3: We got James Gunn at the Helm. You know. A
- 14:52Speaker 3: part of me is like, I don't know, DC movies
- 14:55Speaker 3: just generally have a hard time, but they're making a
- 14:59Speaker 3: big push because he's now taking over this DC world.
- 15:05Speaker 3: It's got a dog, it's got a dog. He's changing
- 15:08Speaker 3: it up. Some people say, you know, he's using his
- 15:11Speaker 3: Guardians of the Galaxy magic, so maybe he'll have some
- 15:14Speaker 3: of that. Another part of it is a lot of
- 15:17Speaker 3: it's shot in Cleveland, so that's very true, you know, hometown,
- 15:22Speaker 3: little hometown, love over here. So I'm I'm hopeful that
- 15:27Speaker 3: that will do some money. And it's Superman so for
- 15:31Speaker 3: the summer, because it comes out July eleventh, it's like
- 15:34Speaker 3: got that July fourth kind of feel to it.
- 15:37Speaker 2: This is the movie could be the biggest movie the summer,
- 15:41Speaker 2: you think, so could kind of bomb? Would I don't
- 15:44Speaker 2: want to say bomb, Like, it's not gonna make money,
- 15:47Speaker 2: but it's not gonna make as much money as they
- 15:48Speaker 2: think it's gonna make in that sense, right, they're relying
- 15:52Speaker 2: on this to be like Bumping up DC. I don't
- 15:55Speaker 2: know if it's gonna get there, just based on like
- 15:57Speaker 2: Superman versus Batman made three hundred thirty, which is a
- 16:00Speaker 2: good size hit. I don't know if this is gonna
- 16:03Speaker 2: get there. So I'm glad you took it here because
- 16:06Speaker 2: I if it came to the fourth spot, I was
- 16:09Speaker 2: gonna feel like I had to take it, and I
- 16:11Speaker 2: would be really nervous about taking it because that's kind
- 16:14Speaker 2: of the way I feel about it. Yeah, but it
- 16:16Speaker 2: has such a potential upside you almost have to.
- 16:19Speaker 3: I did like the Man of Steel Henry Cavill was awesome.
- 16:22Speaker 3: Will this compare? I don't know that movie two hundred
- 16:25Speaker 3: and ninety million Man of Steel. Can this Superman do
- 16:29Speaker 3: the same? That's probably where.
- 16:30Speaker 2: I put it at.
- 16:31Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe?
- 16:33Speaker 2: All right? Moving on from superheroes that we've seen repeatedly
- 16:39Speaker 2: before to something else we've seen repeatedly before, which is
- 16:43Speaker 2: my number four pick dinosaurs of Jurassic World.
- 16:49Speaker 3: If no one's dumb enough to go where we're going.
- 16:53Speaker 2: That's right. I'm taking Jurassic World colin Rebirth. We had
- 16:59Speaker 2: the original movies, then we had the Jurassic World trilogy movies.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Now we have Jurassic World again, but Reborn. The one
- 17:11Speaker 2: thing you could say is these movies tend to make money.
- 17:14Speaker 2: So that's what I'm taking it. All of the ones
- 17:16Speaker 2: in the previous series. We know, Jurassic World was there
- 17:19Speaker 2: when that first came out was massive, but all of
- 17:22Speaker 2: the ones in that trilogy made over three hundred million.
- 17:24Speaker 2: I don't know if this will do that, but it'll
- 17:26Speaker 2: probably come close. It seems to me like a pretty
- 17:29Speaker 2: safe bit.
- 17:30Speaker 3: I don't know, man, you don't know.
- 17:32Speaker 2: You think they're dead, you think they're extinct.
- 17:34Speaker 3: I think you're gonna get dinosaur people, people who love
- 17:38Speaker 3: dinosaur movies. I think you're gonna get them.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Oh not, damn, those are the worst people.
- 17:42Speaker 3: You're gonna get. The Scarlet Johansson fans. Yeah, for sure.
- 17:46Speaker 3: I think people are sort of over this franchise. We
- 17:49Speaker 3: had that resurgence like the first one that came out
- 17:52Speaker 3: in the World series. You know, there was decades yeah
- 17:56Speaker 3: before that.
- 17:56Speaker 2: That gap, that gap is very important because it builds
- 17:59Speaker 2: up in anticipation.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Right, and there's a there's like, you know, this nostalgic
- 18:04Speaker 3: love that happens just like the Force awakens. Yeah, right,
- 18:08Speaker 3: this though, you know, when they start pomping them out
- 18:11Speaker 3: every year to two years, it's like, come on, it's
- 18:14Speaker 3: really essentially what happened to superhero movies is like every
- 18:18Speaker 3: three months we were getting a superhero movie and then
- 18:20Speaker 3: it just.
- 18:20Speaker 2: You know, I can't disagree with you. I think I
- 18:24Speaker 2: think though even at its worst, this one will still
- 18:27Speaker 2: you know, at least make a couple hundred millions of dollars.
- 18:30Speaker 2: But you're right. The fact that we're being reborn after
- 18:33Speaker 2: the last movie just came out in twenty twenty two,
- 18:36Speaker 2: it's a little it's a little absurd. What do you
- 18:38Speaker 2: got next?
- 18:39Speaker 3: You know who hasn't let me down? John Wick? John
- 18:43Speaker 3: Wick hasn't let me down.
- 18:44Speaker 2: That means I'm.
- 18:45Speaker 3: Gonna choose from the world of John Wick Colon Ballerina.
- 18:52Speaker 2: You're him, it's the one they called them, Baba Yaga.
- 19:00Speaker 1: How do I start doing what you do looks like
- 19:03Speaker 1: you already have.
- 19:07Speaker 3: This comes out June sixth, pretty soon, Scott on a
- 19:13Speaker 3: date on mos lovely as we like to say, because
- 19:16Speaker 3: we don't know how to pronounce your name. I should,
- 19:18Speaker 3: but I don't. And a little cameo seems like from Keanu.
- 19:23Speaker 3: So people are gonna go They're gonna be.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Like, oh, how how much is he gonna be in there?
- 19:28Speaker 2: That's that's almost the big question.
- 19:30Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's why it's got some pull
- 19:33Speaker 3: at the box office. I think people are gonna be
- 19:35Speaker 3: just curious, you know, because he died in the last one, supposedly,
- 19:39Speaker 3: so people want to get their john wickfix. Oh john
- 19:42Speaker 3: wickfix dot com. We're gonna we're gonna get that on
- 19:46Speaker 3: on the books.
- 19:47Speaker 2: I agree, people want their john wickfix. Grab that url.
- 19:52Speaker 2: I don't know about this one though, from the world up.
- 19:55Speaker 2: I mean, they obviously went out of their way to
- 19:57Speaker 2: get John Wick up in the title.
- 19:59Speaker 3: They needed the john Wick name to make this movie,
- 20:02Speaker 3: and I think that that's a clever way of riding
- 20:06Speaker 3: on the coattails or pulling from the same audience, you
- 20:10Speaker 3: know what I mean. So even if it gets a fraction,
- 20:12Speaker 3: maybe it doesn't go as high as the last John Wick,
- 20:15Speaker 3: because like, if we look at previous John Wicks, Chapter
- 20:19Speaker 3: four got one to eighty seven, those movies kept building. Yeah,
- 20:22Speaker 3: you know, so maybe it doesn't get that high. If
- 20:25Speaker 3: even if it's somewhere close to that, I'd be happy
- 20:27Speaker 3: with it.
- 20:28Speaker 2: I mean, if it cracks one hundred, that's pretty good.
- 20:31Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's going to do one fifty. You're
- 20:34Speaker 3: thinking one fifty, Yeah, but who knows. Maybe people will
- 20:37Speaker 3: be like, man, this is what we've been waiting for,
- 20:39Speaker 3: a female John Wick.
- 20:41Speaker 2: And then it starts a whole other series.
- 20:43Speaker 3: Mm hm Ballerina two from the World of Ballerina of
- 20:48Speaker 3: the World of John Wick. You know, like have this
- 20:51Speaker 3: like yeah, cascading naming.
- 20:53Speaker 2: We're getting really good with titles and making them super
- 20:55Speaker 2: long and complex. All right, Well, we'll see how that
- 20:58Speaker 2: one does. For my next pick number six, I feel
- 21:03Speaker 2: torn here. It's one that I don't want to do,
- 21:06Speaker 2: but I feel like at this point I gotta take it.
- 21:09Speaker 2: I want to avoid superheroes in this draft, but I'm
- 21:13Speaker 2: not I'm not gonna end up doing it obviously. I'm
- 21:16Speaker 2: gonna take the fantastic four first steps with some steps
- 21:23Speaker 2: of trepidation on my part and some real uncertainty.
- 21:31Speaker 1: Are you the protectors of this world?
- 21:35Speaker 2: Yes we are.
- 21:36Speaker 1: Your planet is now marked for death.
- 21:39Speaker 2: That's my fault. I stretch the bounce of space and
- 21:43Speaker 2: they are hurt. Marvel has obviously come down significantly, So
- 21:51Speaker 2: I think this one is you know, it's good for
- 21:53Speaker 2: a couple hundred million, even though a Fantastic four movie
- 21:57Speaker 2: has never worked.
- 21:59Speaker 3: I think that's what's gonna hurt it the most is
- 22:01Speaker 3: that it's got baggage. Yeah, you know, people are like, oh,
- 22:05Speaker 3: it's going to be so bad, but here's what it
- 22:07Speaker 3: has going forward. I mean, Pedro Pascal is on fire, dude.
- 22:11Speaker 3: Everything he touches as gold lately, so it could solely
- 22:14Speaker 3: be riding on his shoulders and do well because of him.
- 22:18Speaker 3: I always feel like there's gotta be a reason why
- 22:21Speaker 3: they keep making this movie, like the Fantastic Four. Is
- 22:25Speaker 3: there something special that's gonna happen in one of these.
- 22:28Speaker 3: It's gotta do something right. Eventually people are gonna love it.
- 22:32Speaker 2: I think fans of that comic or property really love it,
- 22:36Speaker 2: and that makes them think like other people will really
- 22:39Speaker 2: love it when everybody else is just kind of like
- 22:43Speaker 2: the one guy scratches the one guy's rock.
- 22:48Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm hopeful for you on this one. I think
- 22:51Speaker 3: it's the lesser of the two superhero movies over the summer, which.
- 22:55Speaker 2: Are both hitting in July. So it'll be interesting to
- 22:58Speaker 2: see who kind of comes out on which I would
- 23:00Speaker 2: think would be Superman, but just even curious for the
- 23:04Speaker 2: future of Marvel Eyes resting a lot on this movie.
- 23:07Speaker 3: Here's a question for the listeners. In a fight, who
- 23:11Speaker 3: would win Superman or the Fantastic Four, the whole team.
- 23:16Speaker 3: I'm not limiting you to any one of those superheroes.
- 23:19Speaker 3: Invisible Human Torch, the Rock Dude, and mister Fantastic You know,
- 23:25Speaker 3: he's got the like Stretchy. They get four, he gets one.
- 23:29Speaker 3: I think Superman would just rip him apart.
- 23:31Speaker 2: This is the Superman problem. He's too strong.
- 23:34Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows. Maybe they make the Rock Dude out
- 23:37Speaker 3: of kryptonite shove him through Superman's chest. I don't know
- 23:41Speaker 3: who knows, right, but I like.
- 23:43Speaker 2: That that sounds better than either of these movies, you know. Yeah,
- 23:49Speaker 2: so it could be interesting the Fantastic for the one
- 23:51Speaker 2: thing that gives me hope is I watched trailer. I'm
- 23:54Speaker 2: kind of like nah, but I like the music and
- 23:56Speaker 2: I like at the end when they're like fantastic. Oh yeah,
- 24:01Speaker 2: that I'm into. So you know, maybe it'll be like
- 24:04Speaker 2: a Guardian's level surprise.
- 24:06Speaker 3: Well, as you know, trailers can be deceiving. Never never
- 24:12Speaker 3: has happened, all right, So I need a children's movie.
- 24:16Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go with Elio. Your life isn't up there, Elio,
- 24:20Speaker 3: you need to make friends. I'm glrdon back home.
- 24:24Speaker 2: I didn't fit in.
- 24:25Speaker 3: I thought Earth was the problem. But what if it's me? Well,
- 24:29Speaker 3: I like you, and you seem fine to me.
- 24:33Speaker 2: I never had a friend before.
- 24:35Speaker 3: Later up John Elio. For those who don't know, it's
- 24:38Speaker 3: a Disney movie coming out June twentieth. It follows an
- 24:41Speaker 3: eleven year old boy named Elo who accidentally becomes the
- 24:44Speaker 3: intergalactic ambassador of planet Earth. You know that's gonna do great? Yeah, yeah,
- 24:50Speaker 3: and go see it June twentieth in theaters near you.
- 24:55Speaker 2: I mean, what else can you say about Elio? Right?
- 24:58Speaker 3: I mean it looks cute. I don't know if i'd
- 25:00Speaker 3: watch it on my own, maybe with some kids, my
- 25:03Speaker 3: own kids. I mean, you know, like there's just some
- 25:05Speaker 3: arbitrary well that's kid.
- 25:07Speaker 2: You know, after driving a bus and being like get oh,
- 25:09Speaker 2: I'm going to see Ilio, Like who's this guy. Here's
- 25:15Speaker 2: the thing about Pixar. Their peak, you know, we're past it,
- 25:19Speaker 2: but even that they're lowest, their floor is still pretty high.
- 25:23Speaker 2: Few years ago, when I picked with a pretty high
- 25:26Speaker 2: pick in this draft, light Year, yeah, and that bombed,
- 25:30Speaker 2: and that's still made one hundred and eighteen million dollars.
- 25:33Speaker 2: And then I picked a few years ago Elemental lower
- 25:36Speaker 2: down in the draft, ended up making one hundred and
- 25:38Speaker 2: fifty million dollars. So that's kind of where Pixar's at.
- 25:42Speaker 2: This could surprise. I'd be surprised if it was like
- 25:45Speaker 2: below one hundred. If it does, it means the death
- 25:48Speaker 2: of Pixar.
- 25:49Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. But here's the rational there is
- 25:52Speaker 3: that comes out June twentieth. There's really nothing like that
- 25:56Speaker 3: animated all the way through the July fourth weekend, So
- 26:01Speaker 3: I think it's got some legs to move as the
- 26:04Speaker 3: family movie for that good portion of like a month.
- 26:07Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean it's got Lelo and Stitch, which
- 26:10Speaker 2: I would say is probably that younger kid audience. But
- 26:13Speaker 2: you're at that point a few weeks removed.
- 26:15Speaker 3: Yeah, almost a month. But it's animated. Lelo and Stitch.
- 26:18Speaker 3: This live action. Everything in that movie is real. They
- 26:23Speaker 3: found a little critter guy from a different planet.
- 26:26Speaker 2: You know what's funny is twenty years from now? Probably
- 26:29Speaker 2: not because we're on an expediated timeline, so it's probably
- 26:32Speaker 2: ten years from now live action Ilio. Uh yeah, I
- 26:35Speaker 2: can't wait for that. Well, on that note, on that
- 26:38Speaker 2: exact note, we come to my number eight pick, which
- 26:41Speaker 2: is how to Train Your Dragon. Wow, you've lost everything,
- 26:47Speaker 2: your father, your tribe, your best friend. What are you
- 26:50Speaker 2: gonna do about it? Probably something stupid. Well, you've already
- 26:55Speaker 2: done that live action remake. Word on the street it is.
- 27:00Speaker 2: This is a shot for shot, complete remake of the
- 27:03Speaker 2: animated movie, just in real. You know, we got real
- 27:06Speaker 2: special effects, real actor is that type thing. I think
- 27:09Speaker 2: it's gonna play pretty well. This is another one of
- 27:11Speaker 2: those movies you got kind of the people who grew
- 27:13Speaker 2: up with it are gonna like it. You know, it's
- 27:15Speaker 2: got dragons and stuff. So my kind of appeal to
- 27:18Speaker 2: an older audience, push it a little bit higher and
- 27:21Speaker 2: comes out a week before Elio might kind of crunch
- 27:23Speaker 2: on that a little bit.
- 27:25Speaker 3: How to Train Your Dragon that was twenty ten, that
- 27:28Speaker 3: did almost two hundred and eighteen million. Now How to
- 27:31Speaker 3: Train Your Dragon two did one hundred and seventy seven million,
- 27:34Speaker 3: So it's a good downward trajectory.
- 27:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 27:37Speaker 3: I don't think that that's gonna hurt this. I'm not
- 27:39Speaker 3: saying it's gonna keep doing that. I just think they're
- 27:43Speaker 3: missing the mark. You know, why are they always trying
- 27:45Speaker 3: to train other people's dragon?
- 27:48Speaker 2: Train your own dragon?
- 27:50Speaker 3: I don't know. Shot for shot. This is the thing
- 27:52Speaker 3: I hate about when they do shot for shot, like
- 27:55Speaker 3: when they do a live action, is that it ends
- 27:58Speaker 3: up being kind of stale. It's like, I already saw
- 28:01Speaker 3: this movie. Yeah, show me something new. What made that
- 28:04Speaker 3: movie special was that the dragon was cute. Toothless is cute.
- 28:08Speaker 3: But I don't know. It's like, I mean, I want
- 28:10Speaker 3: to see something new, show me some new element to
- 28:13Speaker 3: the story. Maybe they do that.
- 28:14Speaker 2: I don't know, But well that's when when I first
- 28:16Speaker 2: saw the trailer, I'm like, oh, the dragon looks exactly
- 28:20Speaker 2: like the dragon looks in the animated movie. They've got
- 28:23Speaker 2: Gerard Butler in this movie. Who did the voice in
- 28:26Speaker 2: the animated movie. Yeah, Universal already greenlit a sequel, so
- 28:31Speaker 2: they must like it. Wow, So look forward to that
- 28:34Speaker 2: probably two summers.
- 28:36Speaker 3: Confidence. Man, they got confidence.
- 28:38Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going all in on dragons, all right.
- 28:41Speaker 3: So you've got now a couple good kids movies on
- 28:44Speaker 3: your I do.
- 28:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm loading up on children's fair.
- 28:49Speaker 3: I am going to go the opposite direction, Okay, I
- 28:52Speaker 3: think on this next pick, I'm going to choose something
- 28:55Speaker 3: a little scarier. I'm choosing twenty eight years later.
- 28:59Speaker 2: He's ready to even think you leven I. Once you
- 29:03Speaker 2: walk onto that mainland, there's no rescue.
- 29:06Speaker 3: Warming up and down again.
- 29:13Speaker 2: You look at inns.
- 29:16Speaker 3: So this one comes out June twentieth. It's the writer
- 29:19Speaker 3: and the director of the twenty eight days Later. This
- 29:22Speaker 3: is the third in the series. So this this rounds
- 29:24Speaker 3: out the trilogy because you got twenty eight days later,
- 29:27Speaker 3: twenty eight weeks later, twenty eight years later.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Love the naming convention on this.
- 29:34Speaker 3: Yeah, but this started the fast moving zombies, right.
- 29:38Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't a thing before that. That's crazy, right.
- 29:41Speaker 3: Yeah, So I really like this as a scary movie.
- 29:45Speaker 3: It's gonna have a little bit of the pool of
- 29:47Speaker 3: the people who liked the first two in this series,
- 29:50Speaker 3: but it's also going to be something where people need
- 29:53Speaker 3: that in the summer, they need a little scary movie
- 29:55Speaker 3: to go to. So twenty eight years later, what do
- 29:58Speaker 3: you think of that.
- 29:59Speaker 2: I like this one, and I was actually hoping to
- 30:01Speaker 2: take this from you because I had a feeling you
- 30:03Speaker 2: wanted this one. So I was hoping to like scoop
- 30:05Speaker 2: it up and kind of hurt you a little bit.
- 30:07Speaker 3: You wanted to hurt me. Yeah, like the Indiana Jones pick.
- 30:10Speaker 3: Look how that turned out. Yeah, worked out great. I
- 30:14Speaker 3: don't know the box office potential of this. You know,
- 30:17Speaker 3: the first one was it was a surprise hit. You know,
- 30:19Speaker 3: this is back in two thousand and two. It made
- 30:21Speaker 3: like forty five million. That was like super good back then.
- 30:25Speaker 3: This is one of those examples like a lot of
- 30:27Speaker 3: time has elapsed. I think people are pretty interested in this.
- 30:30Speaker 3: The marketing this is kind of like almost like a
- 30:32Speaker 3: long leg scenario. The marketing for this has been really good.
- 30:35Speaker 3: They have some like good posters out and stuff. I
- 30:38Speaker 3: think could be like the horror movie of the summer.
- 30:40Speaker 3: I don't know what the you know, ceiling is on
- 30:42Speaker 3: zombie movies, Like how much can they make? How much
- 30:45Speaker 3: your audience is into it. But we know horror movies
- 30:47Speaker 3: can hit pretty well. So can it make a hundred?
- 30:49Speaker 3: Can can it hit one hundred and fifty?
- 30:51Speaker 2: I don't know. I'd like to see it. I like
- 30:53Speaker 2: to see it though.
- 30:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to see that do really well. We'll
- 30:57Speaker 3: it go that far? I don't know, We'll see.
- 30:59Speaker 2: We shall see. So for my next pick, it's another
- 31:03Speaker 2: one that pains me because after Indiana Jones, I think
- 31:07Speaker 2: I told myself. I might even have said it on
- 31:09Speaker 2: the show. I was like, I'm not picking any more
- 31:11Speaker 2: movies with old men because nobody wants to see that shit.
- 31:16Speaker 2: Nobody's like, you know what I mean, that's not drawing
- 31:19Speaker 2: a big audience. It's just not happening. Well, here I
- 31:22Speaker 2: am again, I'm doing it. I feel like this movie
- 31:25Speaker 2: is the biggest wild card of the summer and I'm
- 31:28Speaker 2: gonna take a flyer on it here. I think it's
- 31:30Speaker 2: a good at the number ten pick. We said this
- 31:32Speaker 2: last year, you got to take some swings and hope
- 31:34Speaker 2: they pay off in some way. This is one of them.
- 31:37Speaker 2: I'm taking f one the movie. You plus Kim who
- 31:42Speaker 2: I got a team. When was the last time you
- 31:46Speaker 2: want to Race Sunday dayton. Oh, I'm sorry. One, Oh,
- 31:51Speaker 2: I'm sorry then, same as you. This is the Brad
- 31:58Speaker 2: Pitt movie from the direct of Top Gun Maverick. As
- 32:01Speaker 2: all the marketing will tell you, it's a racing movie
- 32:04Speaker 2: about an old race car driver getting back in the game.
- 32:08Speaker 2: We'll promise some fast racing action. This is gonna be
- 32:12Speaker 2: on Imax screens for a while, so that could give
- 32:15Speaker 2: it some give it a little bit of boost. It's
- 32:17Speaker 2: from Apple, but Warner Brothers is distributing it. I don't
- 32:20Speaker 2: know what this is gonna look like. I think it
- 32:22Speaker 2: could make money overseas. I don't know how much, you know,
- 32:25Speaker 2: beyond the dads? Is this just a dad movie? I
- 32:28Speaker 2: was trying to look for some comparisons. Ford versus Ferrari
- 32:31Speaker 2: came out a few years ago, made a one hundred
- 32:32Speaker 2: and twenty million dollars. Can this do that? Maybe? Can
- 32:35Speaker 2: it do Top Gun Maverick seven hundred million? I don't
- 32:38Speaker 2: think so, But what does I don't know where this
- 32:40Speaker 2: is gonna land. This could be a total this This
- 32:42Speaker 2: movie costs a lot of money too, so it's a
- 32:44Speaker 2: good chance this is actually no matter what, it makes
- 32:47Speaker 2: kind of a bomb.
- 32:48Speaker 3: I don't know. You know, like I will ask this
- 32:50Speaker 3: question to the listeners, to you either does it matter
- 32:55Speaker 3: when they tell you who made the movie? Do you
- 32:58Speaker 3: go see a movie because is the same director did
- 33:01Speaker 3: Top Gun Maverick. Or do you go see the movie
- 33:03Speaker 3: because it either looks good or it's got Brad Pitt
- 33:07Speaker 3: in it. That's what I wonder because when they pitch it,
- 33:11Speaker 3: you know, like, oh that from the director of Top
- 33:13Speaker 3: Gun Maverick. That's not really what audiences are thinking about now.
- 33:16Speaker 3: They're thinking about, like does this movie look good? I
- 33:19Speaker 3: think it does look good. To be honest, I think
- 33:22Speaker 3: this is I'm a little jealous. I like this movie
- 33:25Speaker 3: as a pick. I feel like Apple is due for
- 33:30Speaker 3: a hit. I feel like they're doing I feel like
- 33:32Speaker 3: this movie. They really put a lot into this. I
- 33:36Speaker 3: hope it's as good as they say it is, and
- 33:38Speaker 3: they think it is, you know, because they need it.
- 33:41Speaker 3: I think they really do need it.
- 33:43Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of their movies have kind of fallen
- 33:45Speaker 2: flat theatrically. Anyway, I think they don't really care because they,
- 33:48Speaker 2: you know, the purpose is, let's put it on our
- 33:51Speaker 2: platform and get eyeballs there. But you're right, I like
- 33:54Speaker 2: what you pointed out. With the marketing, I mean, I
- 33:56Speaker 2: get the idea of we don't really care about the director,
- 33:59Speaker 2: we just want to put gun Maverick on the previous
- 34:01Speaker 2: and people think of that movie, that might be a
- 34:04Speaker 2: marketing misstep, even like trying to push that.
- 34:07Speaker 3: I don't think about it, even though like I read
- 34:09Speaker 3: it and I'm like, oh, okay, well you know that
- 34:12Speaker 3: was a good movie. So does that immediately make me
- 34:15Speaker 3: a shoe in for the movie. I don't know. All right,
- 34:17Speaker 3: So this is my last pick. Next to my last pick,
- 34:22Speaker 3: I should say, so I got one more after this.
- 34:24Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go with a comedy angle and
- 34:26Speaker 3: I'm gonna go the naked gun.
- 34:28Speaker 2: Hey, little girl, stop, what do you want? Little one?
- 34:37Speaker 1: You're ass?
- 34:41Speaker 3: Who are you?
- 34:42Speaker 1: Frank Dreben? Please squad.
- 34:46Speaker 2: The new version.
- 34:48Speaker 3: For those who don't know this, this comes out August first.
- 34:52Speaker 3: It's a reboot or a remake of the eighties nineties
- 34:56Speaker 3: Joke a minute film series. The original had Leslie, this
- 35:00Speaker 3: time with Liam Neisson as the role. He plays Frank
- 35:05Speaker 3: Drabbin Junior.
- 35:08Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't realize he's his son.
- 35:10Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like the son of I think this will
- 35:14Speaker 3: be fun to see how Liam Neeson takes his comedy
- 35:19Speaker 3: chops and plays out with something that's like way absurd.
- 35:24Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a great pick. My fear is only
- 35:27Speaker 2: me and you think this is a great pick. I
- 35:30Speaker 2: took the Jennifer Lawrence movie a few years ago. I
- 35:34Speaker 2: forget the name of it, what that comedy was, and
- 35:36Speaker 2: it made like fifty million, which is pretty good. But
- 35:38Speaker 2: that's like the only comedy that's been released in the
- 35:42Speaker 2: summer in like the past three years, like straight up comedy,
- 35:45Speaker 2: And I'm like, is that as far as it can get?
- 35:48Speaker 2: Do people care about the Naked Gun? Even though I
- 35:50Speaker 2: think this movie looks funny as hell.
- 35:53Speaker 3: You're right, you're gonna get the people who remember the
- 35:55Speaker 3: original Naking Gun and they're just going for the nostalgia
- 35:59Speaker 3: and laugh, and then you're gonna get the newcomers. I
- 36:02Speaker 3: think you're gonna get the people who are like the
- 36:05Speaker 3: eighteen year olds, the seventeen eighteen year olds. I think
- 36:08Speaker 3: the young audience will love it, I hope. So it's
- 36:12Speaker 3: just absurdity. If you have a short attention span, I
- 36:15Speaker 3: think this movie's for you because you can literally get
- 36:17Speaker 3: the joke. You don't need to You don't need to
- 36:19Speaker 3: have this really long, drawn out sequence to get the punchline.
- 36:23Speaker 3: It's like boom boom boom, boom boom. And I think
- 36:25Speaker 3: that'll I think that'll appeal to them. I really do.
- 36:28Speaker 2: I hope so, but I agree with you make a
- 36:30Speaker 2: good point. You know, it's joke am inute stuff. The
- 36:32Speaker 2: original Naked Gun made seventy eight million dollars. I saw
- 36:36Speaker 2: in the theater when I was nine years old, and
- 36:37Speaker 2: I thought it was the funniest movie I've ever seen
- 36:39Speaker 2: in my life. Yeah, so I hope this one does
- 36:41Speaker 2: the same exact.
- 36:42Speaker 3: The opening scene in the trailer, if any of the
- 36:45Speaker 3: movie is as funny as that scene where the little
- 36:49Speaker 3: girl the lollipop goes into the bank and it ends
- 36:53Speaker 3: up being Frank Drevin. Yeah, and he pulls off the costume.
- 36:56Speaker 3: I mean, come on, you can't get any better than that.
- 37:00Speaker 2: Nissan was a good choice for that too.
- 37:03Speaker 3: Yeah, totally unexpected, right, Like I would never expect him
- 37:07Speaker 3: to be in that role.
- 37:08Speaker 2: Yeah, but it makes sense when you see it.
- 37:10Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all right, So from.
- 37:12Speaker 2: That, you know, I'm going with something a little more
- 37:16Speaker 2: family friendly, and this is, you know, a sequel, another
- 37:22Speaker 2: animated straight up animated no people in this one. I'm
- 37:25Speaker 2: going with the Bad Guys too. When it came to
- 37:30Speaker 2: being bad, we were pretty good. Who am I kidding?
- 37:37Speaker 2: We're the best. The name's kidding. We're students of your
- 37:43Speaker 2: work Big Crime Nurse.
- 37:44Speaker 3: So you're like the bad girl.
- 37:46Speaker 2: And you're like a mango with teeth. What a sequel
- 37:51Speaker 2: to the Bad Guys movie, which is based on some
- 37:53Speaker 2: kids books. The first one was alright, but it was
- 37:56Speaker 2: a moderate hit with one hundred million dollars. So the
- 37:58Speaker 2: main reason I'm going with this what I like it
- 38:00Speaker 2: is actually comes out the same day as The Naked Gun.
- 38:03Speaker 2: Feel like it's got a great runway August. First, there's
- 38:07Speaker 2: not a lot in August, so it is full runway
- 38:10Speaker 2: the whole month. You got basically in that month, just
- 38:13Speaker 2: a handful of movies and they have, you know, four
- 38:16Speaker 2: weeks to just kind of get whatever's left of the
- 38:19Speaker 2: summer before kids go back to school and everybody's like
- 38:22Speaker 2: it's it's over. So I think this movie can do
- 38:24Speaker 2: pretty well in that timeframe. Yeah, I thought you were
- 38:26Speaker 2: going to say the Smurfs movie for a second, that
- 38:29Speaker 2: was a little lower on my list. It's kind of
- 38:31Speaker 2: like when I took Garfield last year and you like
- 38:33Speaker 2: torched me.
- 38:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I couldn't see it. I couldn't see
- 38:40Speaker 3: I couldn't see the genius in your page.
- 38:42Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, which did okay, But we agreed my
- 38:45Speaker 2: family when we saw it. The worst movie we saw
- 38:47Speaker 2: last summer Garfield.
- 38:48Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Smurfs from twenty eleven did one
- 38:52Speaker 3: hundred and forty two million, but then Smurfs two a
- 38:54Speaker 3: couple of years later in twenty thirteen to only did
- 38:56Speaker 3: seventy one million.
- 38:57Speaker 2: So big drop.
- 38:59Speaker 3: Eh, yeah, big drop because nobody cares about the Smurfs.
- 39:03Speaker 3: Let's just be honest, nobody. Nobody cares about the Smurfs.
- 39:07Speaker 3: Needless to say, that is not my last pick. Sure,
- 39:10Speaker 3: I am gonna go with So there's a laundry list
- 39:15Speaker 3: for our listeners. There's a laundry list of indie options.
- 39:20Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a bonus option with your last pick.
- 39:23Speaker 2: You can take an indie movie, as we mentioned, and
- 39:26Speaker 2: if you do, you get a three times that gross
- 39:29Speaker 2: added on as a bonus.
- 39:30Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm gonna take a little inspiration from Shad's
- 39:34Speaker 3: pick last year with Long Legs, because that did pretty
- 39:37Speaker 3: well with the bonus. But I'm gonna take a movie
- 39:41Speaker 3: from this list, and it's long. I'm not gonna bore
- 39:44Speaker 3: you with all the choices, but there's a movie called
- 39:48Speaker 3: The Materialists.
- 39:50Speaker 2: Hey are you single? I'm a matchmaker? Give me a
- 39:53Speaker 2: call if you want to meet somebody. If the girl
- 39:56Speaker 2: asks for us, haul drink of water, hast fine a
- 40:00Speaker 2: salary over five hundred grand, always missed you?
- 40:04Speaker 3: Deliver is a match Maker, comes out June thirteenth from
- 40:07Speaker 3: a twenty four films. If you're a film buff, you
- 40:10Speaker 3: know them, you know the studio. But it's got Dakota Johnson,
- 40:13Speaker 3: who hasn't had a great track record with movies like
- 40:17Speaker 3: she was in that Madam Web Big Bomb. But it
- 40:21Speaker 3: does have one of our fan favorites that we just
- 40:24Speaker 3: talked about in your movie, Pedro Pascal l right hot,
- 40:27Speaker 3: right now. Like I said, everything he touches turns to gold.
- 40:30Speaker 3: So I think that end HiT's got Chris Evans. It's
- 40:34Speaker 3: a romantic comedy.
- 40:35Speaker 2: We don't get a lot of those.
- 40:37Speaker 3: No, we don't, and I need one of those on
- 40:38Speaker 3: my list. Yeah, so I don't need one, but this
- 40:41Speaker 3: is this is what I'm thinking. So it rounds out
- 40:44Speaker 3: the nice variety that I've got and hopefully I'll get
- 40:46Speaker 3: some bucks from the indie Equalizer.
- 40:49Speaker 2: Oh let me just say this about this pick, you
- 40:52Speaker 2: son of a bitch. This was my plan to surprise
- 40:56Speaker 2: you and take this with the last pick. I really
- 40:59Speaker 2: like I'm like an A twenty four rom com with
- 41:03Speaker 2: these stars in it. This could really be a surprise
- 41:07Speaker 2: something that you know, makes I don't know, thirty forty
- 41:10Speaker 2: maybe fifty something like that million, and then you know,
- 41:14Speaker 2: you get that bonus on top of that. This has
- 41:16Speaker 2: got some real potential here, and it's coming from a
- 41:20Speaker 2: filmmaker who just made this movie Past Lives, which was
- 41:24Speaker 2: like kind of an indie sensation. So there's a lot
- 41:26Speaker 2: going for this movie that I think has some potential
- 41:29Speaker 2: as long as it like catches on with people. This
- 41:32Speaker 2: kind of has the stars and the the A twenty
- 41:34Speaker 2: four backing to do it. So I don't really even
- 41:37Speaker 2: have a lot of smack to talk on that pick,
- 41:38Speaker 2: because that's a good one. That was gonna be what
- 41:40Speaker 2: I was gonna go for with my last pick. You
- 41:43Speaker 2: scooped it out from under me.
- 41:44Speaker 3: You could tell me that now because that was my
- 41:46Speaker 3: last pick.
- 41:47Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't take anything from me with it.
- 41:50Speaker 3: But yeah, here's the thing too, is like Pedro Pascal
- 41:53Speaker 3: and Chris Evans, they're sort of loved especially so women
- 41:58Speaker 3: love them, you know, as a romantic. I think that
- 42:00Speaker 3: plays to their benefit. Like I said, Dakota Johnson's had
- 42:03Speaker 3: a little rough go at it lately, but I like her. Yeah,
- 42:07Speaker 3: if the chemistry is right, I think it'll be okay. Yeah,
- 42:10Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, that's the thing with
- 42:12Speaker 3: a rom com is you got to have good chemistry.
- 42:13Speaker 3: So hopefully that's working. But from the trailer, it looks
- 42:16Speaker 3: really good.
- 42:17Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great choice, and I think you're gonna
- 42:19Speaker 2: get some some good bonus green with that one.
- 42:22Speaker 3: So now that I stole that from you, what happens?
- 42:25Speaker 3: What happens to your list? What's your final pick? Shadow?
- 42:28Speaker 2: Well, this is why this year is different than years past.
- 42:32Speaker 2: There feels like there's an abundance of movies, Like I
- 42:34Speaker 2: feel like I'm left with a lot of choices, where
- 42:36Speaker 2: in years past, I feel like I'm scraping at this
- 42:39Speaker 2: point the bottom of the barrel. Yeah, so I'll tell
- 42:42Speaker 2: you what I'm looking at. There's just one movie I
- 42:44Speaker 2: just can't resist. I don't know if it's gonna flail
- 42:48Speaker 2: or it's gonna you know, upgrade on the original. And
- 42:50Speaker 2: that's Muthriagan two point zero missus Forrester. We have a problem.
- 42:58Speaker 3: We're hunting an autonomous and named Amelia.
- 43:01Speaker 2: She was built using your design for Megan.
- 43:04Speaker 1: I know how to start a Milia.
- 43:07Speaker 2: Put me and a body, and I'll help you stop her.
- 43:09Speaker 3: You remember you hate when they do this in the name,
- 43:13Speaker 3: and you're choosing a movie that does It's.
- 43:16Speaker 2: Well, this one's interesting because it has a three and
- 43:19Speaker 2: a two, which is just super confusing. Yeah. I don't
- 43:22Speaker 2: like numbers used as letters. Everybody knows that. But I
- 43:28Speaker 2: liked the first Megan movie. It was really well marketed.
- 43:31Speaker 2: It was a surprise hit ended up earning ninety five
- 43:34Speaker 2: million dollars. There's a chance this one could upgrade. I
- 43:37Speaker 2: don't know if it will. Looks kind of kind of cheesy.
- 43:40Speaker 2: It kind of goes T two with Megan. If you
- 43:43Speaker 2: watch the trailer, which is a take, I feel like
- 43:46Speaker 2: there is you talk about meme ability, there's some recognition
- 43:50Speaker 2: with Megan. I think people think this is kind of
- 43:53Speaker 2: fun and enjoyable. So I think people could roll back
- 43:56Speaker 2: out for this one and it could be that kind
- 43:58Speaker 2: of horror comedy that kind of crosses over and takes
- 44:02Speaker 2: the original even a little farther.
- 44:04Speaker 3: I think you're giving it a lot, a lot of credit.
- 44:09Speaker 3: There's no doubt it's gonna make money because the first
- 44:12Speaker 3: one did ninety five. I mean, people seem to like
- 44:15Speaker 3: talk about the first one like it had it's like chucky. Yeah,
- 44:19Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Will it make money? Probably?
- 44:22Speaker 3: Should it make money?
- 44:24Speaker 2: Not really, But at least they didn't just remake Child's
- 44:27Speaker 2: Play here, Yeah, they like re envisioned Child's Play.
- 44:31Speaker 3: No, I agree with that. I will agree also with
- 44:34Speaker 3: something you said. This year, we've had some real options
- 44:38Speaker 3: where you know, we could have even done more than
- 44:41Speaker 3: seven picks if we really wanted to. But yeah, I
- 44:44Speaker 3: think it's really good year for that.
- 44:45Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of these movies
- 44:47Speaker 2: even we picked towards the end, that I'm like, oh,
- 44:49Speaker 2: that could do one hundred million, that could do one
- 44:51Speaker 2: hundred million, that could do one hundred million, Whereas you know,
- 44:54Speaker 2: the past years were like, oh, let me grab something
- 44:57Speaker 2: that can maybe make fifty million dollars, twenty million dollars,
- 45:00Speaker 2: you know, something like that or Horizon an American Saga
- 45:04Speaker 2: Part one. So that's the draft. Well, each have our pick.
- 45:10Speaker 2: Let's do a little recap here by team. So I
- 45:13Speaker 2: have Leelo and Stitch, Jurassic World Rebirth, Fantastic Four First Steps,
- 45:21Speaker 2: How to Train Your Dragon F one, The Bad Guys Too,
- 45:26Speaker 2: and Mathriegan two point zero.
- 45:29Speaker 3: I have Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning Superman from the
- 45:34Speaker 3: World of John Wick, Ballerina Ilioh twenty eight years Later,
- 45:39Speaker 3: The Naked Gun, and just Materialists, not the Materialists.
- 45:45Speaker 2: It's cleaner that way. So wrapping up here today, Patrick,
- 45:49Speaker 2: how do you feel about your team, your chances of winning?
- 45:52Speaker 2: How's it look to you? You feel good? Did you
- 45:53Speaker 2: get what you wanted?
- 45:54Speaker 3: I do feel pretty good. I liked F one. I'm
- 45:57Speaker 3: really interested to see what that does. I also would
- 46:00Speaker 3: have liked to lead alone Stitch. I think that was
- 46:02Speaker 3: a good pick for you, So we'll see how that does.
- 46:04Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's gonna go gangbusters, you know.
- 46:07Speaker 3: But I'm pretty pretty happy with my draft. What about you?
- 46:10Speaker 1: Ah?
- 46:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I look solid. I feel like my
- 46:13Speaker 2: team is strong. A lot of these movies feel so variable,
- 46:16Speaker 2: and this is what kind of made drafting hard. I
- 46:18Speaker 2: feel like there's a large clump. Yeah, like Superman Jurassic
- 46:23Speaker 2: World F one twenty eight years later. I don't know
- 46:26Speaker 2: where these how much these movies are gonna make, or
- 46:28Speaker 2: where they're gonna do. I'm like, got an idea, but
- 46:31Speaker 2: I have no idea how that's going to turn out.
- 46:33Speaker 2: I felt like in years past it seemed like here's
- 46:36Speaker 2: the big three at the top, and then there's like
- 46:39Speaker 2: Tier two, tier three. This felt like kind of like
- 46:43Speaker 2: there's a big ball at the top and the you know,
- 46:45Speaker 2: big ball in the middle, and that was it. So
- 46:47Speaker 2: we'll find out. I love seeing the naked gun on there.
- 46:49Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes me happy, it does. So, all right,
- 46:53Speaker 3: we feel good about our teams. Now we have to
- 46:55Speaker 3: do our Wick Award predictions, also known as our pre wictions.
- 47:00Speaker 3: That's right, Oh that was a good one. All right.
- 47:06Speaker 3: So the total amount of money we predict our teams
- 47:08Speaker 3: will earn be four bonuses. If you go over, you
- 47:12Speaker 3: or disqualified from the bonus even if you're closer. So
- 47:15Speaker 3: this makes it tougher, that's the tricky part.
- 47:17Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I think I'm ready, you ready, all right,
- 47:21Speaker 2: I'm going with one point four billion.
- 47:25Speaker 3: Okay, so one billion, four hundred million.
- 47:28Speaker 2: Yeah, one billion, four hundred million.
- 47:30Speaker 3: All right, set in Stone.
- 47:32Speaker 2: Set in Stone can't change it now, I know, I
- 47:34Speaker 2: immediately want to change it. As soon as I said it,
- 47:37Speaker 2: I wanted to change it.
- 47:38Speaker 3: What about you, I'm going to do one billion, forty
- 47:42Speaker 3: five million.
- 47:44Speaker 2: One billion, forty five million. Yeah, so one point zero
- 47:50Speaker 2: four five billion.
- 47:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm getting real specific there.
- 47:54Speaker 2: I thought you were going to go one dollar. I
- 47:56Speaker 2: guess the second person can do that. Huh you could?
- 47:58Speaker 3: Yeah, prices right, rules, I will say, I don't think
- 48:02Speaker 3: you're over because of Lelo and Stitch.
- 48:04Speaker 2: I'm counting on it being the number one movie of
- 48:07Speaker 2: the summer. I thought it would be bigger than all
- 48:09Speaker 2: the rest. I'm counting on it hitting at least four hundred.
- 48:12Speaker 3: You don't think Karate Kid Legends was.
- 48:14Speaker 2: Gonna be the biggest movie of the summer. It was
- 48:16Speaker 2: on my radar and I'm like, I don't know, I
- 48:18Speaker 2: just didn't get there's something about it. I just don't
- 48:20Speaker 2: have a good feeling about. But on the flip side
- 48:23Speaker 2: of that, to end the show, we always do this,
- 48:25Speaker 2: what's the one summer movie you're most excited for? What's
- 48:29Speaker 2: the one you're like I'm gonna definitely see that.
- 48:31Speaker 3: You might think it'd be Nobody too well, I know
- 48:34Speaker 3: how you like Nobody won I did, but I think
- 48:38Speaker 3: it might be you know, I've said this a million
- 48:40Speaker 3: times twenty eight years later, but I I'm also kind
- 48:43Speaker 3: of want to just see the end of the Mission
- 48:45Speaker 3: Impossible series. I don't want to see where they take it,
- 48:48Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, what happens? Does he die?
- 48:50Speaker 3: Like in James Bond? Yeah, you know, I hope not.
- 48:54Speaker 3: Come on, it's a feel good action movie, like I
- 48:56Speaker 3: want to see Everybody Live.
- 48:58Speaker 2: I'm with you on those two movies, though those are
- 49:00Speaker 2: probably on the top of my list, the same ones
- 49:02Speaker 2: twenty eight years later, I think I'm most intrigued by
- 49:06Speaker 2: just to see what they're gonna do with it. You know,
- 49:07Speaker 2: you got kind of the same team back, same writer,
- 49:09Speaker 2: same director, So I'm curious to see that. To throw
- 49:13Speaker 2: another one in the mix, though, Weapons, coming out August
- 49:17Speaker 2: eighth from Warner Brothers is from the director of.
- 49:20Speaker 3: Barbarian Mmmm okay yeah.
- 49:23Speaker 2: Summary on that is an interrelated multi story horror epic
- 49:28Speaker 2: about the disappearance of high school students in a small town.
- 49:31Speaker 2: So no idea, you know, it sounds kind of mysterious
- 49:34Speaker 2: what this is about. But just knowing the kind of
- 49:36Speaker 2: creativity of how Barbarian was put together, I'm curious where
- 49:40Speaker 2: this one goes. And it's a Warner Brothers release, so
- 49:42Speaker 2: this isn't even like a smaller like a twenty four
- 49:45Speaker 2: Neon type thing. So pretty interested to see what that
- 49:48Speaker 2: one has in store for us.
- 49:50Speaker 3: Yeah, we always talk about this. News stories always great. Yeah,
- 49:54Speaker 3: we're always wishing for more stories, for more original stuff.
- 49:59Speaker 3: So you know, I can never discredit them for trying.
- 50:03Speaker 2: Yeah, so those are some ones. Maybe we'll check out.
- 50:05Speaker 2: That's the draft. We've done it again, it's on paper.
- 50:10Speaker 2: Now comes the fun part when we see, you know,
- 50:13Speaker 2: these movies slowly trickle into theaters. We start to get
- 50:16Speaker 2: some numbers, we keep track of things. There's some crying,
- 50:19Speaker 2: some devastation, this slamming into tables, some why why why?
- 50:25Speaker 2: And then you know we have the end where we
- 50:27Speaker 2: kind of tally the results.
- 50:29Speaker 3: I will say this year has been fun because I
- 50:31Speaker 3: see a renewed spirit, a renewed shad.
- 50:34Speaker 2: I'm alive again.
- 50:36Speaker 3: Yeah, you're excited. I could see the hope and the
- 50:38Speaker 3: twinkle in your eye that this is going to be
- 50:40Speaker 3: the year everything that you know happened last year is
- 50:44Speaker 3: going to do it again. I'm baby, I gotta tell
- 50:47Speaker 3: you that could all come crumbling down pretty fast. I
- 50:50Speaker 3: know from experience.
- 50:52Speaker 2: It didn't seem fast when you were on top for
- 50:54Speaker 2: like five years.
- 50:55Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, let me ask you this question. If I
- 50:57Speaker 3: come back and win this this year, how are you
- 51:01Speaker 3: going to feel?
- 51:02Speaker 2: I'll be okay for a couple of years.
- 51:03Speaker 3: You know.
- 51:04Speaker 2: I have a nice pushing from that win, like I'm
- 51:06Speaker 2: at least back in it. It was more just the
- 51:09Speaker 2: year after year after year of crushing defeat that got
- 51:13Speaker 2: to me after a while.
- 51:15Speaker 3: Well, I know the listeners were getting tired of it.
- 51:17Speaker 3: So we you know, we mix things up. You know,
- 51:20Speaker 3: we mixed it up. So yeah, tune in for our
- 51:24Speaker 3: follow up episode in September when we crunch the numbers
- 51:28Speaker 3: and add up our bonuses and then we're you know,
- 51:31Speaker 3: going to find out whose team Emergence emerges victorious in
- 51:36Speaker 3: the Summer Draft. We'll also have links in the show
- 51:39Speaker 3: notes to the past episodes if you want to go
- 51:42Speaker 3: back and listen to those and hear us win and lose.
- 51:45Speaker 3: We got the Awards episodes after that, so you can
- 51:48Speaker 3: always listen to the back catalog of those things if
- 51:51Speaker 3: you like pretty fun. Yeah, yeah, And you know there's
- 51:54Speaker 3: some lists out there. There's we've got a bunch of resources.
- 51:58Speaker 3: We're also going to do a new landing page for
- 52:01Speaker 3: the summer movie draft that'll have other information, like it's
- 52:05Speaker 3: going to have all of the episodes, but then it's
- 52:07Speaker 3: going to have some of the movie.
- 52:08Speaker 2: Trailers and stuff that we did. So a lot of
- 52:10Speaker 2: good stuff, and we'll try to keep you updated, you know,
- 52:13Speaker 2: provide little updates throughout the summer on some of the
- 52:16Speaker 2: moment episodes. As we go through this, we keep track
- 52:20Speaker 2: of things, give you updates on how the movies are doing,
- 52:23Speaker 2: what's happening with us, how we're feeling.
- 52:25Speaker 3: All right. Well, that's it for this episode of Movies
- 52:27Speaker 3: and Marketing. Until next time. Let's fade to black. I'll
- 52:33Speaker 3: be back. He's done coming Sud