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"Body Cams: Cool in 2020, Not in 2026" (Saturday, January 10, 2026, Hour 1) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: We'll do it in the morning again. Do the first
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  Speaker 1: thing today the media Thomas will do it line.
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  Speaker 2: Jew Ward said, steal me have a day, even Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: at least for work.
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  Speaker 3: When the sun comes up, drops a kid, disco.
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  Speaker 4: Joys everything a gender.
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  Speaker 5: I'll the chase.
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  Speaker 2: Yourself needs no one that Jose smiled.
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  Speaker 6: He only exc.
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  Speaker 2: So good to be back home and back with you
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  Speaker 2: this morning from CEES the Electronics and Technology Show.
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  Speaker 7: University Diversity, historically the fountain head of free ideas and
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  Speaker 7: scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution and the conduct of research,
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  Speaker 7: partly because of the huge costs involved. A government contract
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  Speaker 7: becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual.
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  Speaker 2: Curiosity, and so true a wash a wash in that
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  Speaker 2: over the past week at the Consumer Electronics Show, so
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  Speaker 2: much out there looking for government money to fund their ideas.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not I mean, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: You can yell and scream because the mosque grows on
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  Speaker 2: one particular side of the tree, and you don't think
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  Speaker 2: that's equitable. But when the government says we will confiscate
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  Speaker 2: your money and money from everyone else, and then you
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  Speaker 2: have guys like the invidious CEO on the stage at
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  Speaker 2: CS saying I don't have a problem with Gavin Newsom's
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  Speaker 2: wealth tax. You find yourself in a perfect storm full
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  Speaker 2: of people who are surely convinced that somebody else has
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  Speaker 2: stolen their birth right from them, and damn it, somebody
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  Speaker 2: who's going to go get it for me back or
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to run them over with my suv. This
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  Speaker 2: idea that grave injustices have happened because somehow your world
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  Speaker 2: hasn't turned out the way you want it to be
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  Speaker 2: is I think existentially part and parcel of the whole
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  Speaker 2: problem we're facing these days in America.
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  Speaker 7: I get justice, not exactly justice, I suppose more like
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  Speaker 7: preferential treatment.
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  Speaker 2: And that's it's sad. And we're talking to some neat folks. Wait,
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  Speaker 2: where's this book? It's a really interesting book. And I read,
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  Speaker 2: actually read a book on an airplane. My gosh, what
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  Speaker 2: a thing. Hang on, it's over here behind me, just
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  Speaker 2: you know, untacking stuff. And here it is in my bag.
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  Speaker 8: Still.
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  Speaker 2: Called The World does need You. Lawrence Ford Conscious Capital Foundation,
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  Speaker 2: and he's talking about the statistics that are stunning, statistics
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  Speaker 2: regarding the amount of jobs that could be lost to
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  Speaker 2: artificial intelligence. And he said it's not that the jobs
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  Speaker 2: are going to be lost, or that the jobs aren't
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  Speaker 2: going to be done by people. But the people who
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  Speaker 2: think they can just kind of get on with an
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  Speaker 2: easy gig are going to find themselves in a weird place.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into that this morning. So much going on
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  Speaker 2: and that we've come back with from the Consumer Electronics show,
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  Speaker 2: but the world marches forward technologically or not, and the
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  Speaker 2: technology that's going to dominate. I have a feeling this
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  Speaker 2: conversation is the body cam.
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  Speaker 1: Long the.
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  Speaker 2: Protest march of the left. We want police with more
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  Speaker 2: body cams, ironically, not far from where George Floydoyd met
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  Speaker 2: his demise. A body cam, ironically may bring new light
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  Speaker 2: to the shooting in Minneapolis. But we'll get there as
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  Speaker 2: we run down our first things this morning on the
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  Speaker 2: program that tells you what went on last night and
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  Speaker 2: then asked you, how is it impacting you? Minnesota Prosecutor
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  Speaker 2: Friday called the public called on the public to send
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  Speaker 2: them their own cell phone recordings for evidence in the
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  Speaker 2: shooting of Renee Good. Now that the bodycam video from
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  Speaker 2: the Ice officer Jonathan Ross has been published, including through
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  Speaker 2: the website of the Department of Homeland Security, protests in
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  Speaker 2: Iran raged on Friday night as the Islamic Republic cracked
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  Speaker 2: down and has killed at least sixty five of its
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  Speaker 2: own citizens in these protests that began over Iran's ailing
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  Speaker 2: economy and a currency that currently is trading in the
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  Speaker 2: millions of real to each US dollar. Greenland's leaders have
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  Speaker 2: rejected more calls to take control of the island by
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  Speaker 2: the United States. Prime Minister of Greenland, Jean Frederick Nielsen
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  Speaker 2: and four other minority party leaders said in a joint
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  Speaker 2: statement Friday night, we don't want to be Americans, we
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  Speaker 2: don't want to be Danes. We just want to be Greenlanders.
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  Speaker 2: Days after Nicholas Maduro's arraignment on drug trafficking charges, a
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  Speaker 2: fight has begun over who his lawyer is going to be.
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  Speaker 2: Defense attorney Barry Pollock, who sat with Maduro in court,
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  Speaker 2: is now accusing lawyer Bruce Fine of trying to join
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  Speaker 2: the case without authorization. Fine, who had been an associate
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  Speaker 2: Deputy U Attorney General ring the Reagan administration, has asked
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  Speaker 2: the judge on Friday to let Meduro himself settle the dispute.
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  Speaker 2: Fine told Alvin Hellerstein, the judge in the case, that
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  Speaker 2: a legal reason for withholding money from them, and President
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  Speaker 1: The first thing today by Joe Thomas on the Talk
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  Speaker 1: Media Network.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, indeed she did. There were some of the rooms
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  Speaker 2: I have to say at the Consumer Electronics Show that
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  Speaker 2: just made me feel like somebody was melting skittles onto
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  Speaker 2: my eyes. It was just a sensory overload. There are
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  Speaker 2: other ones, I mean, just complete NERD prom staff and
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  Speaker 2: this email Maureen writes in who was that clip you
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  Speaker 2: played about the universities and government money? Joe, Well, that's
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  Speaker 2: more famously known. Do we have do we have the
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  Speaker 2: earthly bits? The more famous part of that address. You
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  Speaker 2: may know that address more from an earlier sextary.
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  Speaker 7: Strength, but on how we use our power in the
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  Speaker 7: inners of world peace and human betterments. Throughout America's adventure
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  Speaker 7: in free government, our basic purposes have been to keep
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  Speaker 7: the peace, to foster progress in human achievement, and to
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  Speaker 7: enhance liberty, dignity, and integrity among peoples and among nations.
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  Speaker 7: To strive for less would be unworthy of a free
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  Speaker 7: and religious people. Any failure traceable to arrogance or our
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  Speaker 7: lack of comprehension or readiness to sacrifice, would inflict upon us,
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  Speaker 7: grieve us her both at home and abroad. Progress towards
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  Speaker 7: these noble goals is persistently threatened by the conflict now
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  Speaker 7: engulfing the world. It commands our whole attention, absorbs our
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  Speaker 7: very beings. We face a hostile ideology, global in scope,
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  Speaker 7: atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose, and insiduous in method. Unhappily,
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  Speaker 7: the danger it poses promises to be of indefinite duration.
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  Speaker 2: And no, he wasn't talking about the Chinese Communist Party.
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  Speaker 3: There is call for.
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  Speaker 7: Not so much the emotional and transitory sacrifices of crisis,
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  Speaker 7: but rather those which enable us to carry forward steadily, surely,
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  Speaker 7: and without complaint. The burdens of a prolonged and complex
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  Speaker 7: struggle with liberty the stake.
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  Speaker 2: And of course he would go on to then warned
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  Speaker 2: that that battle would be perhaps endangered by the development
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  Speaker 2: of perhaps you've heard the phrase the military industrial conflict.
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  Speaker 2: That's Dwight Eisenhower almost almost seventy years ago warning us
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  Speaker 2: of these things there. But he goes on after the
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  Speaker 2: warning about the military industrial complex to warn of scientism.
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  Speaker 2: Scientism is the government funded science, a science with an
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  Speaker 2: answer first and the question later. And that's really what
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  Speaker 2: scientism is. Scientism as a concept is, here's the answer
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  Speaker 2: I need you to get. Come up with an equation
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  Speaker 2: that gets me there, rather than hey, this is wrong,
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  Speaker 2: let's figure out a way to fix it, which is science.
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  Speaker 2: And too often that's what happens when the government says, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we need to prove that man is causing climate change.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take that for an example, just randomly, and you
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  Speaker 2: get guys like Mike Man who go out and say, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'll take a lot of federal money and then I'll
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  Speaker 2: get you an answer. I'll get you the answer you won.
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  Speaker 2: And even when they couldn't come up with actual science
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  Speaker 2: and actual mathematical equation, they just leave parts out of
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  Speaker 2: it because the money is well spent already, and there
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  Speaker 2: are guard rails against this stuff, Marian. It's called the
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  Speaker 2: Fraud Against Taxpayers Act, where if you're found to have
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  Speaker 2: defrauded the federal government of taxpayer money, you can go
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  Speaker 2: to prison for a long time. Nobody ever does because
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  Speaker 2: define fraud. Oh, there are things that we can do
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  Speaker 2: in hypocrisies all over the world. And one of the
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  Speaker 2: technological hypocrisies that I think we're a wash in is
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  Speaker 2: the hypocrisy of just. Less than a decade ago, Minneapolis
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  Speaker 2: was the flash point of insistant Marxist left, insistent just
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  Speaker 2: hell bent on the agenda of making sure every law
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  Speaker 2: enforcement officer was wearing a body cam, as if somehow
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  Speaker 2: the demise of George Floyd the Sanctified would have been
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  Speaker 2: avoided had the law enforcement officers Derek Chauvin, et cetera
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  Speaker 2: had been wearing body cameras, because that's certainly the knowledge
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  Speaker 2: that their actions would be videotaped would And so the campaign,
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  Speaker 2: the worldwide campaign was launched to make sure every single
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  Speaker 2: law enforcement officer, regardless of cost, was wearing a body
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  Speaker 2: cam at all times, so that the public would be
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  Speaker 2: able to see what the police are doing to us.
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  Speaker 2: And now that it's become grievously inconvenient for the public
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  Speaker 2: to see what actually transpires between an activist, a law breaker,
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  Speaker 2: and a law enforcer. Now they're like, no, you can't.
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  Speaker 12: Release that stuff. Oh my god, you're going to taint
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  Speaker 12: the witness bowl. Oh my gosh, how dare you show
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  Speaker 12: us what happened in the body cameras that we I don't.
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  Speaker 12: There's got to be a medication these folks are taking.
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  Speaker 2: There has to be, because I just don't know how
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  Speaker 2: you have these psychotic flips without winding up like Nick Reiner, who,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, is insistent it has lost so many
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  Speaker 2: of his marbles that even his own family lawyers that
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  Speaker 2: I'm out of here, but that's a matter for another day,
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  Speaker 2: and insists that he's the victim of a grand conspiracy. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's you. I'm sure an insanity plea will be coming
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  Speaker 2: at some point once they figure out who's defending the
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  Speaker 2: poor guy in which which which is the shorter straw?
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  Speaker 2: If you're a lawyer, which would you rather be forced
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  Speaker 2: to do? Be the public defender forced into the Nicholas
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  Speaker 2: Maduro case, which it looks like they may actually have
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  Speaker 2: to push a public defender. Can you imagine being that
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  Speaker 2: the pro bono public to Yeah, this will be your case,
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  Speaker 2: Nicholas Maduro versus the United States? What or Nick Reiner
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  Speaker 2: who insists that I don't know, the devil made him
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  Speaker 2: do it, or some dog barking in the backyard made
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  Speaker 2: him stab his parents to death. Oh, the tangled web.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we should all be wearing body cams at some
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  Speaker 2: point or another. Maybe we will, certainly there seemed to
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  Speaker 2: be a subtext of some of that at the Consumer
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  Speaker 2: Electronics Show. But back to you Live on the radio,
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  Speaker 2: and I missed you guys so much. I am so
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  Speaker 2: loath of those recorded programs. But truly, truthfully, during the
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  Speaker 2: hours that this program airs, I was I think ninety
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  Speaker 2: five percent of the minutes that this program airs on
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  Speaker 2: the talk media network, I was in custody of airplane mode,
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  Speaker 2: which is a whole other, you know, technological dog and
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  Speaker 2: That's it. And these are the remember post George Floyd.
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  Speaker 2: Joel's hanging on the line with us as we had
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  Speaker 13: I wonder about that? We could do the old saying
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  Speaker 13: Well no, I'm just talking, and I'm talking in general.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're being disingenuous, You're you're almost being psychotic, uh
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  Speaker 1: The First Thing Today by Joe Thomas on the Talk
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  Speaker 2: It feels like it, doesn't it. It's like we've had this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, our last good marble fallout of our societal hands.
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  Speaker 2: Joel was online with his skuyhead Joel, So you were
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  Speaker 2: You're about to say something else about this insanity that
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  Speaker 2: is gripping us, Uh, you know now manifesting back again
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  Speaker 2: in Minneapolis.
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  Speaker 13: As a nurse, I've taken care of I mean, what
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  Speaker 13: people would call scum, the worst, the worst child molesters
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  Speaker 13: and people that have murdered and we're trying to save
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  Speaker 13: their life and people, Why are we trying to save
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  Speaker 13: their life. Because it's a life, we're not supposed to
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  Speaker 13: put judgment on it. So so whatever this situation is,
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  Speaker 13: you have to go by, you have to go by fact,
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  Speaker 13: you have to go by. But in certain circumstances, this
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  Speaker 13: situation goes a life or death situation for a person
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  Speaker 13: that was trying to uphold the law and do their job,
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  Speaker 13: which they were dutifully assigned and earned their right to
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  Speaker 13: work as an ice officer. Yep, and and and that's
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  Speaker 13: the problem.
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  Speaker 2: And bless them for it, because gosh, it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 2: like this is a very thanked you know, a classic
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  Speaker 2: thankless job right now is enforcing the laws of land.
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  Speaker 2: And yet where is Hakeem Jeffries, where is Chunk Schuman
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  Speaker 2: or proposing any changes to our immigration system? They don't.
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  Speaker 2: Did Joe Biden during his four years as president propose
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  Speaker 2: one law, one single law that would have changed our
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  Speaker 2: immigration or he instituted this silly cell phone app But
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  Speaker 2: that's not a change in law. That was taking a
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  Speaker 2: law that said here's how you apply for asylum and
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  Speaker 2: making it easier for somebody to you know, get into
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  Speaker 2: the asylum track. But they didn't change any laws that
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  Speaker 2: came to them. I've asked people, point to me one
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  Speaker 2: place where our immigration law is unjust, and they can't
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  Speaker 2: do it. You know what, they go and tell me.
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  Speaker 2: They tell me it's too hard to get onto the
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  Speaker 2: list to come into this country. And I said, that's
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  Speaker 2: not on us, that's on the beephole countries that they
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  Speaker 2: live in. If you can't get to the US embassy
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  Speaker 2: in Caracas, that's not my fault. And you know, we
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  Speaker 2: are a nation that you know, over threw our own
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  Speaker 2: occupying army, and we should be at there. I believe
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  Speaker 2: the President was saying this just yesterday. We should be
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  Speaker 2: supporting people, you know, overthrowing their own occupying armies. We
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  Speaker 2: should be supporting Venezuelans in being independent, free Venezuelan citizens.
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  Speaker 2: We should be supporting Greenlanders being free, self determining Greenlanders. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And and you know, despite the argument to the opposite,
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  Speaker 2: I believe that's what President Trump has been doing.
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  Speaker 13: Because the LAFT wants to differentiate what they want at
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  Speaker 13: the time of their chameleon appearance. Yes, right, yeah, they
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  Speaker 13: they want to. It's like tag, you're it, you can't
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  Speaker 13: see me. But when I want you to be, when
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  Speaker 13: I want to be seen, then you can see me,
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  Speaker 13: but and I want to be heard. It's it's really
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  Speaker 13: really schizophrenic, and not not because you brought up a
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  Speaker 13: case of.
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  Speaker 2: Well you're but you're absolutely right. Our society has lost
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  Speaker 2: grip of its last good marble in a lot of
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  Speaker 2: cases because we just want, we want what we want,
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  Speaker 2: and the hell with the consequences. We are having a
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  Speaker 2: national tantrum, like we're a nation of five year olds
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  Speaker 2: wanting a box of cookies at the big box store.
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  Speaker 2: And we've got to we've got to wake up. Our
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  Speaker 2: parents have to take us home because we're just Otherwise,
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  Speaker 2: we're just gonna keep throwing these tantrums and we've got
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  Speaker 2: to stop.
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  Speaker 13: Hey, Joe, the remember the when Archie's the wife Edith
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  Speaker 13: had a thing with Teaches and then he was trying
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  Speaker 13: to decide on the lawyers to fight the case.
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  Speaker 2: I don't gosh, you're so light.
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  Speaker 13: If you get the audio on it, it's great. I don't
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  Speaker 13: know if you can play a lot of it, because.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I have to go find it. I used to
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  Speaker 2: be I mean, I'm talking to the day when my
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  Speaker 2: all in the family live because that was the only
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  Speaker 2: dad and I and my sister we would watch Mary
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Moore and all of that stuff. But I'll have
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  Speaker 2: to go look that up. I don't remember that just
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  Speaker 2: off the top of my head. I'm sure when I
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  Speaker 2: see it, I'll go, oh that one. Yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 2: it's like.
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  Speaker 13: It was because of the heavy syrup.
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  Speaker 2: I'll go look for it. Joel, Thank you, sir, have
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  Speaker 2: a blessed weekend. Okay you too. When I hang up
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  Speaker 2: my coach, what is the matter with you?
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  Speaker 8: Thank Michael too, he helped me send the table.
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  Speaker 19: Your own nobody and I find out what would be
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  Speaker 8: I heard that too. I know.
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  Speaker 10: Don't you tell me how much I've told you so far?
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  Speaker 1: They don't know where to begin.
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  Speaker 7: You told me not so far except cling Peaches, which
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  Speaker 8: Don't say them too, boys no more.
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  Speaker 7: Start your story after the cling peaches and get on
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Terry is one of those names. I apologize.
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  Speaker 2: My three kids are named Taylor, Kyle, and Morgan, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm down with the fact that they can mean a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things. So Terry, apologies. Don't mean to misgender you.
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  Speaker 2: But Terry's text message I think hits the spot. Joe. No,
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  Speaker 2: we're not the ones having the tantrum. We're the people
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