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MotoGP Round 4 Deep Dive in S6 Ep 29 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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My name is Rex 45. Man, I want to say I'm on the
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of order with this. We'll see how it goes.
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How are you, man? Welcome to the show.
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How you doing tonight man? Doing great, man.
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I'm ready, ready to get to it, man.
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I've been looking forward to this conversation the whole
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weekend, man. I've been every conversation
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that been going in my head of what we go talk about.
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I'm ready for tonight, yeah. I got to hear your thoughts on
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that, but how was your week before we jump into that?
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Because it's like I said, like I said, it was one of the most
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exciting ones. But how was your week, man?
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You good. I've been my weekend and thus
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far, man, since we so today, man, everything's been going
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smooth. I've been doing my normal thing,
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being a retired veteran man, just taking it easy, working out
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and, you know, eating the right food and drinking enough water.
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Nice. Yeah, man, it's very important
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to drink water. Some days I slack on it and I
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notice the difference for sure. For sure.
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All right, man, I'm going to keep it moving and get all the
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guys in Jordan, man. Welcome to the show.
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How you doing tonight man? Not too bad.
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I'll bring you something, Frankie.
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Man, I can't complain, man. You know, I'm, I'm, I, I need
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more sleep. But I think that's the story of
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my life for a long time. So if I if I can wake up every
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morning, even if I get an hour's sleep and be well rested, I
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think I might sign up for that package.
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Amen. Amen.
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Sleep is key. Oh yeah, And to touch on the
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gentleman from before, hydration is key.
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Hydration is key. Yeah, no doubt.
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Listen man, no doubt. We know that from track life.
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So because you mess around and you ain't hydrated at the track,
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you your body going to tell you something for sure, man.
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Bad day. Yeah, for sure, man.
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You enjoy the race weekend, man. Oh man, it was.
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It was a crazy, crazy, eventful weekend, so there's a lot to
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talk about. I can't wait.
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I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm at the edge of my seat, man, because I,
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I have to watch it like a couple of times just to make sure
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everything is fresh in my brain for tonight.
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So definitely excited, man. Hang on a second.
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Hi ref Trev man, welcome to the show man.
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How you doing man? I'm doing great.
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Thanks for thanks for having me back.
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Hydration is key. You know, I always got my water
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bottle with me, Red Rock'n'roll just just sipping away so.
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There you go. There you go.
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I'm working. I'm working on it.
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I'm working on it. It makes it easier when you have
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this big old long straw and this.
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I have a couple of these for the grid, you know, and it's just
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see, I can get my helmet underneath it and stuff and.
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It's. Easier to drink I'm.
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Still doing this at the the track, pulling my helmet up
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trying to get it in. It's time to step my water game
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up at the track for sure. All right man, you had a good
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week. Yeah, it's good.
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Racing's fantastic. And then personal side, man,
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lots of work, a lot of a lot of events coming up for us on the
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Honda side and a lot of school sports going on.
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So between soccer and track dead, life is definitely super
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busy right now. Yeah, I know, I know that man.
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It's you got to juggle it, but it is fun.
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I mean, you know, and it goes by quick.
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It does it does and it was good to see you out of Rd.
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Atlanta and and meet for the first time.
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I thought for sure you're going to be taller.
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You look taller on the pod but. What are you?
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512. Yeah, you know, you know, you
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know, I'm almost wind. Besides, I just kind of not
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stand out. Yeah, I can see that.
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I can see that. I get that from some people.
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But no, no, I'm the right size to race a motorcycle.
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That's true. I am not.
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But yeah, that's that's good. No doubt.
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Let's get Tyson in. Tyson, man, welcome to the show.
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How you doing tonight, man? You must be excited because I
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know you're going out loud in this weekend, man.
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Oh for sure, definitely going to go there for the first round.
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I'm probably not going to race this weekend.
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It is cold and yeah, that's just treacherous.
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I got a few rides in earlier this week, but other than that
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it has been frigid up here. Come on man.
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This is what this is what you know, Bill's character.
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I remember going up there 40°, keeping my gloves on a tie,
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warmers just warm enough to go out there and freeze.
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I mean, if I was a younger man, for sure I absolutely would.
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But but these days I I like feeling my fingers and kind of
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tough to do at, you know, 100 miles an hour.
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No, I listen, I, I, I did that at Roblin in, in 2021.
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It was 40 something degrees, rainy and cold and I, I was just
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using pressure just to keep the throttle open.
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Yeah, it was so cold. So I.
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Just having those like cold, numb fingers just kind of sketch
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me out, especially when you're like grabbing brakes, going into
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corners hard. Like I just don't have enough
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feel. And so I'm like, yeah, it's just
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not worth it, You know? I'm just a part time rider here.
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Yeah, well, you know, there's a there's an endurance guy,
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endurance rider. I know he he does like the
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endurance as a race is by himself on a on a big bike.
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And and I'm like, So what happens when you get tired?
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He's like, I just don't hit the brakes anymore.
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The secrets are racing everywhere.
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Don't hit the brakes. The.
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Breaks behind and just go so you know I I think we all got our
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stories from the track man. I mean it's it's it's funny what
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Bill's character right because and and shows us what we can
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endure. Well guys speaking the character
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a lot's happened over the weekend.
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We'll go around the horn. We're kind of stay in that
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alphabetical order of, of how I introduce you guys and, and just
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kind of, you know, give your summary of the race weekend,
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what you thought overall. And then we'll start diving into
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some qualifying and we'll dive into the Sprint and then the GP
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race and a little bit of contract talk at the end.
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Because I, I think some guys, I mean, I I'll be curious to see
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your take on, on why some of the riders who are leaving some good
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bikes to, to go to some all the seeds that are not so good.
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All right, One person says, show me the money, Harry.
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Oh, man. What do you thought of the race
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weekend in Jerez? I thought it was pretty good.
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You know, I'm glad the weather played a big issue in the race
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because you can actually see who can ride in the different
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conditions. So I was impressed, especially
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for the Moto GB guys, but you know, you know, the Moto 2 was
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pretty intense too. And I love like was watching the
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guys, just the younger guys that's still fighting want to be
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there with the in the premier class.
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And, you know, just seeing the progression and seeing the
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different styles of the young guys that want to make it to the
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premier class. And it's just just watching the
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guys mature and, you know, it's just a good weekend.
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And I'm glad I, I, I was pretty, pretty impressed by what
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happened on Saturday, man. That's probably one of the more
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intense races I've probably seen in a long time due to the
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weather And you. I hope everybody enjoyed.
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It in a sense, it reminds me of a Mike Tyson fight, but you get
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the 12, you get the 12 laps. But if you if you left the room
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for a second, you missed something because there was so
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much you did. You know what I'm saying?
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You think 4 laps to go, the race is over and and and and crazy,
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but we go, we go, we going, we going to get into it for sure,
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for sure. Jordan man, you know, what are
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your thoughts of the of the of the of the whole weekend?
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Definitely an eventful weekend, the weather definitely played a
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factor and it does show that Ducati having a good amount of
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data for these tracks and having six bikes on the grid also bodes
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well for them. A lot of people are counting
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them out saying Aprilia has the best bike, the best bike.
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At the same time they do only have 4 bikes on the grid.
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And at the same time it does show the weakness of the
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Aprilia. Maybe they maybe not have as
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much data as they need. So in variable conditions they
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are playing catch up or they're seeing tracks for the first time
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with this iteration of motorcycle.
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So a lot of times, if it's not drive the whole weekend, you
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will see Aprilia not struggle, but they'll take a little bit to
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get to the forefront and get their data in, and then they're
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a little bit of a slow burner. Other than that, the Ducatis, it
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was good to see them finally at the sharp end of the stick.
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Alex, definitely, he was on another level all weekend.
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Mark definitely showed, obviously what he showed before.
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He's good in mixed conditions also, he shows that he can tread
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the line a little bit when it comes to the the the rules and
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all that good stuff. But they had to start to finish
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it. It was just a very eventful
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weekend. Harass is always a very good
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track to go to. OK, all right, all right.
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High ref Trev, man, what are what are your thoughts man,
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Crowd is pretty huge. Oh, I think it was over 220,000
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people that was there. That atmosphere makes for great
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right racing. Yeah, it's crazy how they show
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up so early in the morning and just start partying on that hill
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and just and just enjoying it. Man, I wish we had something,
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anything remotely similar that's here to the States, but
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obviously we don't with that sort of atmosphere.
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There's a couple rowdy spots around Row Atlanta and Road
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America and Mid Ohio for sure, but nothing like Caress.
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But yeah, I mean, the boys are dead on.
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The weather plays a big factor. I'm going to go a little bit
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against the grain on Jordan and say I don't think Aprilia is on
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the they were just on the back foot a little bit just to
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protect their point sleeve. Ducati has a lot to lose right
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now. They have to gain right?
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And Aprilia had everything to lose so they can kind of chill
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out a little bit on it. But yeah, the weather was good.
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Mark's still an animal. The whole the the rules about
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picking up your bike and stuff like that is it's scary because
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I think you're going to see a lot of guys try to hold on to
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the clutch to make sure it doesn't stall so they don't get
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eliminated out of the race basically.
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And some dudes are going to lose some pinkies for sure.
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So but now the the racing and GP, the Sprint was fantastic,
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really exciting like you guys said, 12 laps man and the
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weather was nuts and Alex put it to a man in in the other in the
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in the main on Sunday. So.
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Yeah, yeah. No, we, we're going, we're going
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to, we're going to dissect with some more Tyson, man.
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I mean, you know, you know about crazy weather as we were just
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talking about Loudon's weather. What are your, what are your
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thoughts of the weekend, man? And you know, you, you which,
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which, which side of the camp you on with Aprilia and Ducati,
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as it seems like you know, you know, some people are saying
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Ducati shouldn't worry. Definitely think Ducati should
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be worried, but they're getting into some of these European
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tracks so they should be doing better coming up here.
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But the weekend was certainly fun that that interchangeable
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race there on the in the Sprint was a blast to watch.
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I mean, those guys were going hard and the weather came in and
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seeing everybody, you know, making choices who's going to
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stay out, who's going to go in? Obviously Mark dropping the
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bike. But that was certainly a fun
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race to watch. And this, the main race was a
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blast too. It was good to see Mark and and
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Alex back at the top of the of the grid, and fighting for Alex
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was lights out. As everyone else has said
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already, it was tough to see Mark crash for sure.
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I wanted to see him win that race, hopefully overtake Alex
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again. But here we are.
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But yeah, there's a point there. I was like, all right, here we
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are, Ducati's back at the back at the top.
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It's over. And then they just started
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falling apart from the weather, falling out, crashing.
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Yeah, yeah, I, I, I agree, man, which is crazy.
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So let's talk about qualifying for a little bit.
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Obviously we know who what the results are, but it's pretty
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impressive Harrio for what Zarko did on the Honda in these
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condition because I was kind of surprised and the usual suspect
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who are as, as you know, Tyson talked about riders in different
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mixed condition. The usual suspects weren't
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there. Miller wasn't there.
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You know, some of these other writers wasn't there, man.
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And so you know, you, you, you know, you're sitting there.
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You know, you saw Zarko put in that hot lap.
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Did you? Did you think that was it?
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From Zarko. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I, I what? Soon as he did it, I I mean it's
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kind of similar to what he did last year when he won, when he
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won his race. That was like similar to the
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weather that he he had last year.
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So like when I saw him do the lap, I was like, Hey, he need
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that's the person that's supposed to be here.
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I wasn't surprised at all because that's what he on on on
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those kind of conditions. He thrives in every time.
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If you just remember from 2025, I know it was in his home home
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track, but hey, those conditions is where he thrived at.
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So I wasn't surprised at all. OK, OK, All right, I'll, I'll,
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I'll take that. I'll take that.
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Jordan, what are your what are your thoughts on Zarko and
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Marquez was able to do Diggia and even Bez because I mean, you
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know, it, it, it it wasn't cut and clear that Proyo was going
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to be upfront in the beginning. No, I think Zarko, like Hario
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said, he's definitely in his home when it comes to the wet.
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He just has something else, whether it comes to feel or
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something or something else. Whenever it comes to those type
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of conditions, full wet, he seems to shine.
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So it was good to see him, you know, like he did last year at
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another track come out. I thought he was going to be on
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pole position. Yeah, he did come come out with
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a nice fast lap. Other than that the probably is
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like you said, it was a little bit of a slow burner.
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But in the main race, Bez, like Bez, maximizes points.
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It seems on a Sunday, that's what he's doing.
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Bez shows up and he he if he's not winning, he's maximizing the
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points total that he can take. He didn't have enough to come
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after Alex, but to come home second with Mark crashing out
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definitely bodes well for his championship.
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Other than that, did you yet? Did well in the other Ducatis
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were, you know, struggling Morbidelli.
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It was good to see, you know, the some of you know, the VR46
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member team get a win other than or not a win, but a podium other
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than Didgia. So that was good.
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You know, even though he's been struggling, you know, it's, it's
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good to feel good one time or another.
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Other than that, yeah, the, yeah, just the Ducati shows that
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they, they still have some fighting them, but the Aprilia
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is like they, you know, everyone knows they're still the top bike
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to be on at the moment. Right, right now.
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I feel you there man. You know Zarko got second in in
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the grid Sprint start. Did you think he he had a
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chance? And what did you think of his
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fight for the first few laps to keep them boys at Bay for a
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little bit before they were able to get around them?
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Yeah, like everybody said, he's a mixed weather specialist,
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that's for sure. And you hope he capitalizes on
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that and how he has such a good feel in the mixed conditions and
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then kind of tapers off on dry as a little bit of a head
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scratch. Because you got to have
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confidence in the bike to to be able to put it down like that.
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Of course, there's some horsepower differences or
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whatever, but ultimately the the bike has to feel good to have
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that sort of confidence. So it's good to see him
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fighting. We just got to get the end
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result, you know, And but yeah, those those conditions were
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gnarly, man. What do you think?
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Even the highlights of seeing top rack, you know, lose that
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front end and hold on to that thing like all the way around
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the corner. Dude, that's scary, man.
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That gives me Marco flashbacks. You know, it's like, dude, just
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let the fight go, man. Just let it go.
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Yeah. But it's definitely good to see
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Zarko up there. We all for me being a Honda guy,
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I want to see the Hondas up front for sure.
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And I wish that the factory boys would get up there too.
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But there was big difference in lap times in quali.
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You know, Mark, Mark threw down a 48 flat and Zarko is right
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there about a tenth behind. And then everybody else was in
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the 40 nines. So no one was even close in
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quali. Right, right.
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What do you think about Zarko's defense for those first few
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laps, man? I mean, you're on, you know,
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you're racing over America. And I mean, there's times that
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you got to fight for a position like, is it is, is it on the
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forefront of your mind or you're just thinking like, these are
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the best lines I can take to kind of keep the person behind
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me at Bay? Yeah, I can tell you writing
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defensively sucks. It is so much more stressful and
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taxing and you tend to start getting arm pumping because
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you're, when you're riding defensively, you're not racing
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forward, you know, so you're kind of worrying what's going to
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happen and you have to, and you're losing time.
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You know, when they keep dive bombing each other and stuff
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like that, then the guys in front start pulling away.
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So you have to settle at one point and figure out, hey, do I
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just want to settle in and try to mount up another attack later
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on down the race? Or do I just want to keep
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fighting for my life right now and and ultimately lose the race
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because we're losing time? Yeah, no, Zako, top Honda, man.
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I mean, overall, I know the Sprint didn't go accordingly.
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I got to look and see where he finished on the Sprint.
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But you know, he finished 7th and he held for 22 laps.
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I mean, he was in 5th place for 22 laps in the main race, which
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was, you know, impressive for Honda.
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So they got to kind of feel good in the Sprint.
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He finished eighth. So, you know, so pretty crazy,
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Tyson, man. I mean, you know, you, you heard
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Trev talk about, you know, the passing back and forth.
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There was some pretty good passing from Acosta, from
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Didier, from some of these guys in the, in the Sprint, man.
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What do you think of the, of the, you know, the 1st 4 laps?
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Because you know, it's like the first full laps was crazy.
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The next full laps was another thing.
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And then, you know, and then the craziness at the end when the
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rain started really coming down. What's your thoughts, Tyson?
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I think it was great to see. I mean, I everyone loves
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passing, everyone loves some racing.
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So I was really excited to watch that Sprint race.
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I'm like, this was amazing. You know, Zarko putting up a
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hell of a fight. You know, he's shown in, was it
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France last year when he did well in the mixed conditions
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there? And I was hoping he was going to
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have a similar result. I really was rooting for him.
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I was hoping that the the rain was going to come, he was going
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to be able to throw on some wets and he was going to be able to
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either beat Mark or potentially get one of those podium slots.
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But I don't think it quite worked out for him in the
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Sprint. But yeah, it was great racing to
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watch. That's my biggest take away from
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the weekend. It was just, it was good fun
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racing. Yeah, I agree.
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Mario, man, you know, let's talk about Raul Fernandez because
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he's riding different this year. Last year we saw a little bit
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towards the end of the season, but in the Sprint, even in the
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beginning of the race, he was there.
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We see Jordan talking about Aprilia, but the damn tear off
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with Bizecki, you know what I'm saying is like, come on, man.
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The man dropped down to 17th place because of a tear off bro.
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Yeah, that, that, that was an unfortunate thing.
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You know, all I watch, I watch all the riders do that, right?
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Like before they come like, but they usually do it in the pit.
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But as soon as I saw that, I was like, come all back.
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Because, you know, I think Benz really was shooting for I, I
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know if that didn't happen, I think it would have been a
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different spread because Benz had the pace.
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Because like, if you look at what happened on Sunday versus
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what happened on Saturday, soon, as soon as he took off on
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Sunday, boom, he passed him. And I think the same thing would
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have happened on Saturday. It was just, ah, the prisoner
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had like, that was just a crazy situation that happened a super
23:45
duper unfortunate because look, look what happened to Jorge
23:48
Martin. Like the first turn, his brakes
23:50
were looking like the rings of Saturn.
23:54
What he Yeah, like super hot red, but to to to what happened?
23:59
That was like a fixer up bike because Jorge Martini dropped
24:03
his bike with 3-4 times during qual.
24:06
Right, right. So like that bike was pretty
24:08
much put together. Even the bike that he raced in
24:10
the Sprint he dropped also. So it was kind of unfortunate
24:15
situation again what happened to the Prius, But they recouped
24:19
recovered on Sunday, so I'm happy.
24:22
Yeah, yeah, they they figured out that's some serious.
24:24
I don't even know what that is. Can you explain, Trev?
24:28
I mean is it just the the the brake just calipers just squeeze
24:33
in the pad on a rotor or just. It's, it's got to be some sort
24:38
of debris or something like that that's, that's got in there and
24:41
kind of locked that thing up because those things, their
24:44
calipers are beyond free floating.
24:46
I mean, so something in there has jammed it up it it had to be
24:52
some sort of failure in my opinion.
24:53
But I think wasn't Dagnaya's rotors glowing too at one point?
24:59
I don't know about this race but I know he pitted.
25:02
I know he pitted for mechanical too in in the second race.
25:07
Jordan May. What are your thoughts on the
25:08
KTMS before 1? Second one, second, one second.
25:12
You think that he pitted? I don't.
25:14
I don't think that was wrong with that motorcycle.
25:16
I think they just told him because mark the start, the star
25:19
would crashed out. They probably sent them a
25:21
message. Come on, bring it in.
25:22
We're done for the weekend. If that's the case, come on,
25:35
man. Anything.
25:38
Is possible. I mean you know, we saw you know
25:40
they were anything is possible. What do you think?
25:45
KG, KTM, They seem all Bender, Vastionini and Acosta.
25:51
They were all fighting around the top eight position.
25:53
They were looking good for grip, kind of tripping over amongst
25:56
each other. Were you kind of surprised at
25:59
what KTM was doing? Because, I mean, I figured
26:00
Acosta was up there, but these other two guys, they were riding
26:03
really well before the rain started.
26:05
Well, yeah, they weren't doing too bad.
26:07
They were definitely doing better than they have in races
26:10
past. But by no means while I say is
26:13
are KTM still in the mix? I believe the mixed conditions,
26:17
but brought him a little bit up towards the you know, the the
26:20
mid pack a little bit better. Usually Acosta has been the
26:23
leading light over there, but he seemed all weekend to be having
26:28
issues with the bike who really doesn't gel with this track too
26:31
much. So Bastionini, seeing him being
26:35
able to mix it up and Bender with Pedro Acosta, I mean it's
26:40
good to see because you know they haven't been able to do so
26:43
this year too much sadly. Another weekend without Maverick
26:48
Vinyalis because Vinyalis was looking beautiful on that KTM
26:51
probably top KTM before he had his injury and now to see it
26:55
linger on and then have that screw that was walking out and
26:58
give him such an issue. I mean that that just sucks,
27:02
especially since it's silly season and right now how the
27:06
contracts talks are absolutely everywhere.
27:09
So to be out for this extended period, you know, even though
27:12
he's one on multiple manufacturers and he's very good
27:15
rider, being off the bike is being off the bike and we're
27:18
just going to switch, you know, to the new regulations and
27:21
everything. So you kind of want to be there
27:25
as soon as possible. But you know, KTM, you know that
27:29
they seem to be a little bit in a dire spot because rumors are
27:34
that even though KTM or Tech 3 or whoever has that satellite
27:41
team, rumors have it that they're shopping around as well
27:45
or going to sign or, or whoever is is shopping for manufacturers
27:50
at the moment. So yeah, who knows that they may
27:52
be down to two bikes in the in the future, which would not be
27:57
too good for them. As you can see in Moto GP, you
28:01
need data. The more bikes you have,
28:04
especially with new the regulations, you need as many
28:07
bikes possible on the grid. So we'll just see going forward.
28:11
Yeah, I agree. Because I mean, I liked it.
28:13
I liked it when Ducati had eight grids, I mean 8 bikes on the
28:15
grid. But some people didn't.
28:17
But I hate you there, Trev, man. What do you think of, you know,
28:21
Alex running out in the Sprint, you know, passing Zarko was able
28:24
to run Mark down, you know, pass Mark on the outside.
28:28
I mean, I'm, I've always said the younger brother should
28:30
always out or the younger siblings should always outshine
28:32
the oldest sibling. And Mark has been outshining in
28:34
the younger brother for so long. Is is it the changing of the
28:38
guards or it's just harasses should be Alex's track.
28:42
What do you what do you think of Alex's riding?
28:45
I think it's, I think it's Alex's track, man.
28:47
He, he rides so well there and he has the confidence man.
28:50
Confidence weighs so much. And if you have that confidence
28:54
going into the track that no one, everybody has like their
28:56
home field advantage or their home quarter advantage or
28:59
whatever. So having that extra confidence
29:02
carries a lot of weight. And I think Alex knows that he,
29:05
he digs the fans. They love going up on that hill
29:07
and partying and everything after the races and stuff.
29:09
I mean, and they let's be honest, I mean, that's their
29:11
that's the home track for those guys other than Aragon.
29:15
They may have a billion laps around that place.
29:18
So they're riding, they're riding or Alex rides really
29:21
awesome there for sure. He chased them down.
29:23
He put it to it and and he made, you know, Mark have a have a
29:27
mistake. So get on him.
29:30
And and to touch on the KTM stuff, man, those things are
29:33
going to be branded as CF motos. You mock my words right now.
29:36
Those will be those will be branded CF Moto KTM's next year.
29:42
OK, now Baja. They're going to be, they're
29:45
going to be Chinese branded KTMS. Oh man, oh man OK, OK,
29:55
Tyson, man, look, we're getting up to it.
29:58
That mark crashed out. So you know, starts raining,
30:00
which is crazy, right, Because they I remember the commentators
30:04
mentioned it possibly could be a flag to flag in the Sprint and
30:07
and the main race. I thought it was going to hold
30:09
off. It started raining probably
30:12
what, 6 laps? And so it had a few laps while
30:14
it was still coming down and, and then it really came down.
30:18
And you know, you, you heard Trevor talk about Mark made the
30:22
mistake. And the mistake I think Mark
30:24
made was that he didn't pit sooner because he said he
30:27
decided to follow Alex. I mean, and, and then he went
30:30
down, you know, what are you, what are your thoughts on on, on
30:33
that? I mean, he certainly made a
30:37
mistake. He should have gone in, but I
30:41
think once he once he went down, he just realized, I mean, might
30:44
as well just go into the pits and throw wets on him right
30:46
here. I don't know the rule book, so I
30:49
don't know if that's technically legal.
30:50
Other people can argue about that.
30:52
I'm sure they've got lawyers and stuff to figure it out.
30:54
But I see why he did it. And I pretty much I think it won
30:59
in the Sprint because all those other guys went around and it
31:01
was just too wet and they were just, they were hemorrhaging too
31:04
much time. Who was Alex crashed?
31:08
Yes. And then who they were hunting
31:10
some somebody stayed out there pretty late.
31:12
Was it for me? And they like.
31:15
Stayed out late? Yep.
31:16
And they just haunted him down and just like, took him over,
31:19
took over. Like he was just standing still.
31:21
So I mean, he clearly, sorry, go ahead.
31:25
No, it's OK. Go ahead.
31:26
No, as I said and it could have been an opportunity for Bender
31:28
because he was 5 seconds ahead of Mark and and Becco crashed
31:34
out. This was.
31:35
Like Bender doing it again. So that would be a pretty wild
31:41
finish. Yeah, yeah.
31:42
So it it's pretty crazy, but let's put it to the guy the the
31:45
whole panel guys. I mean, I mean, let's let's I'll
31:48
let you continue Tyson on your thought about what Mark did
31:51
because it it, you know, he didn't break any rule, but like
31:57
as riders, or at least the places I've been, I always teach
32:00
you if you pass pit entry, just go around and and that kind of
32:04
thing. And he and he and he already
32:05
made a decision that he was going around and and crash.
32:08
So, you know, you saw Tyson and you know, you kind of expand on
32:13
that little bit. I mean, yeah, I agree, but it's
32:17
also the the top tier of racing. These guys are so competitive.
32:20
Like if there's no wall there, he's just going to walk the bike
32:23
over if he could. So like, I just, I just, I
32:27
guess, yeah, technically it's wrong.
32:28
If I did it, I would be in the wrong and I'm sure someone would
32:31
yell at me and I'd be like, you're right, I messed up.
32:34
But he's Marc Marquez and this is Moto GP and he wants to win
32:39
and he's going to do whatever it takes.
32:42
I think that personally, like if it was safe, like if you started
32:45
doing that as like guys are whipping past him and he's just
32:48
a roadblock, like that's certainly dangerous and that is
32:50
a an actual problem to deal with.
32:52
But I didn't. It looked like he waited for
32:54
people to go by, saw chance and then took it.
32:57
So. Yeah, I mean, he must have
32:58
talked to his lawyers after when he was in park for me.
33:03
I know what to say. Mark Marquez was doing a lot of
33:07
slick stuff that weekend, right? If you remember what he did to
33:11
Digi. If you remember what he did to
33:14
Digi was it during the qual when he both of them pitted and soon
33:20
as he saw Dizzy go in to pit, What did Mark do?
33:23
Continue going. I'm like man, what what are you
33:25
doing man? Like you come down pit lane with
33:29
the with the person that was sitting on pole.
33:31
You see the person that that's faster, that has a faster Ducati
33:35
than you, the whole weekend you saw them pull over thinking you
33:38
finna get get like some extra time, I guess to get a better
33:42
time. And then he pulls off Soon as
33:43
Digi pulled in, I'm like, come on, Mark, come on.
33:47
You know, people follow you that way, the same way they did when
33:50
he was in Coda last year when Mark ran to the paddock to go to
33:54
the go to rain the wet tires, everybody ran and did it.
33:57
And he tried to do the same thing because Digi did the same
34:00
thing this past weekend. He saw Mark going to the going
34:03
to the pits. He was like, oh, Mark's going to
34:05
the pit and all of a sudden what Mark do?
34:07
Soon as he soon as he Mark turned his head, saw Digi kept
34:10
on going bad. I'm a big believer in karma.
34:13
What happened to Mark on Sunday was inevitable, you know what I
34:17
mean? It was inevitable.
34:18
Inevitable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:21
OK. So what you're saying is he, he,
34:23
he, he should have run that round of extra lap?
34:27
Yeah, he did. He should have.
34:29
He should have. Like, even though you know the
34:30
rules, like who has done that, who has done who?
34:34
Nobody has never seen that happen until Mark did it.
34:37
And when he did, I was like, come on, man.
34:40
I was waiting for the students to give him a penalty.
34:42
I was waiting. And then all of a sudden, halt.
34:44
Mark. Mark been steady and he knows
34:46
the rules. So he he applied what he knows.
34:48
Like Nah, man, come on now. Come on.
34:52
Hey. The monastery riding that people
34:54
are getting grid position and landlocked penalties for and and
34:59
this is this is this is huge because it's going to not it.
35:02
I think Aprilia's already put the protest to to make us some
35:07
clarification. What are your thoughts, Jordan,
35:11
on this? There should 100% be a
35:14
clarifications. If we look at other series such
35:18
as like F1, there's strictly a rule.
35:20
There's a pit entry and there's a pit exit.
35:22
If you go over the white line, it's a penalty on the exit.
35:25
If you go over the white line or if you pass pit entry, you
35:30
cannot cross over and go, you have to go another lap because
35:34
you failed to go into pit entry. So in my in my point of view,
35:38
it's absolutely no no brainer. Just because it's not written in
35:41
the rules doesn't technically mean, you know, it shouldn't be
35:46
penalized. You know, then we're starting to
35:49
try to start in line. Then what if you have somebody,
35:51
you know, that goes around, see somebody duck in there on the
35:55
main straight, they slow down. What if they cut into pit wall,
35:59
have somebody open a little bit of access as long as they're
36:02
below the pit lane speed, will they get a penalty if they go
36:06
right next to their pit box? I mean, just because it's not in
36:09
the, you know, written and fine print doesn't always just mean
36:12
it shouldn't, you know, be penalized because now we're just
36:15
splitting hairs. Hairs now.
36:17
He was on a live track. He did cut across the grass, cut
36:20
across the line, got into pit lane.
36:23
Yeah. It was, you know, during, you
36:26
know, crazy circumstances and a flag to flag at the same time.
36:31
I mean, I, I, I think it's a little little ridiculous and a
36:34
little a little crazy. It's pretty straightforward.
36:38
If you're going to jumping across grass in lines, something
36:42
has to be done. A little 5 second penalty or or
36:45
or something or other. That's just my opinion.
36:49
Right, right, right. But.
36:50
Then again, it's, but then again, it's Mark Marquez and his
36:52
Dorn. And that's their, you know,
36:53
that's their Golden Boy. You don't want, you don't want
36:55
to touch him. But I mean, let, let, let's be
36:58
real, that there there's a real change in the guard that's
37:00
happening and Dorna can't hide behind Mark Marquez anymore.
37:04
It's going to be up at some point.
37:06
The writing's on the wall. OK, all right, man.
37:09
Listen, Kobe have to have to retire at some point.
37:11
Trev, man, what are your thoughts, man?
37:14
I'm pretty sure you know the rule books in Motor America.
37:17
Is it is it? Is it natural for riders to
37:20
exploit the Gray areas? Yes, if you're not cheating, you
37:24
ain't trying I. Was waiting for that, yeah.
37:29
I mean, I don't think he'd cheat.
37:31
I think he got very lucky. I don't even think he probably
37:34
knew that rule. He probably thought the bike was
37:36
more damaged than it was. And then just the way the
37:38
weather worked out in the circumstances, he was able to
37:41
capitalize on it. Any other race he would have
37:43
been so far back and out of the points and not have an
37:46
opportunity because it'd have been a dry setup or whatever,
37:48
right? So he'd have brought that bike
37:50
probably back into the pits. Either way, how it worked out
37:53
was just super, super lucky and and super Marc Marquez.
37:57
You know, that's, that's good on him.
37:59
But I guarantee you the next rounds or so, they're going to
38:01
implement some sort of a pit entry commitment.
38:05
There'll be a rule, there'll be a Marc Marquez rule that will
38:08
say, hey, you have to commit to pit lane at this point, you
38:12
know, and you can't, you can't cut across the grass to get in
38:14
the pit lane from here on out. But from what I understand, the
38:17
rules now are just that you can't cut across the inside.
38:20
So you can't basically apex and gain advantage in the pit lane.
38:25
And that's the only rule written right now.
38:27
But now I think they'll have some sort of endendment to it to
38:30
where it says, dude, you have to commit, otherwise go around.
38:34
But there's going to be a Gray area there because say, what if
38:37
his bike was leaking fluid or something like that and he took
38:41
that thing all the way around the track.
38:44
You know, you got to you got to take the the lesser of two evils
38:47
type deal. He cut across the track in a
38:49
safe manner, motocross, that thing cut some grass and the way
38:53
the the weather and circumstances worked out, he
38:55
benefited from it. But in any other circumstance,
38:58
man, I don't, I don't think he benefits from it.
39:00
No, I, I agree there. He he definitely did benefit
39:03
from it and it and it just happened the right way.
39:07
As I'm as I'm turning on other mics, the end of the race guys,
39:12
Ducati 1 and 2 factory 123. I'll go around the horn again
39:19
and and just kind of ask, you know, factory team winning in
39:25
these conditions is not good for the factory team.
39:28
What are your thoughts on that? Because you know right now it's
39:32
the satellite teams that are in front of them.
39:34
They got this champ. They they got these wins in the
39:36
Sprint. But does it feel good when you
39:38
have to win under these circumstances?
39:39
Like no disrespect to Zarko when he wins in the wet and stuff
39:43
like that. Some of these other guys.
39:44
But when you're on that factory seat, these are not the you
39:47
expected to win in these conditions, but other conditions
39:50
as well. What are you thought, Harry?
39:51
Oh. Yeah, it was, I don't know.
39:54
I I think because of the concessions, it's the reason,
40:00
it's the reason why I like the COT is not successful as they
40:03
should be, but has been the most dominant factory team for the
40:09
what, the past four or five years.
40:11
And just to see Dizzy get on pole and seeing Alex Marquez win
40:20
and to see what happened to Petco and to see what happened
40:24
to Mark on Sunday, that was. It, it, it doesn't look right.
40:29
It's, it's similar to like how Jorge Martin won the
40:32
championship in 24. It was a satellite team and I,
40:36
I, I don't know, they've been having issues with the GP26 this
40:41
year and Petco had an issue with the GP25 and last year they.
40:45
Didn't give the 25 to to Mobideli or Furman because they
40:52
didn't even want that bike so they also still on 20 fours
40:54
which I think is also hurting them too.
40:57
Yeah, I don't know. I just I don't think they're, I
41:03
don't think, I don't think Ducati is going to be too good
41:05
this year. I think like they're somewhat
41:08
bidding, they've been updating what they need to or a certain
41:12
things, but I don't think they've been like because
41:15
they've been winning, but you know, like when you win, you
41:17
just try to keep on with the same thing.
41:19
But Apria has been paying attention.
41:22
They know like hey, of our top competitor that we want to be
41:25
that's from Italy. We need to do the the normal to
41:28
either changes to the arrow to to the engine, everything we
41:31
need to do to beat these guys. And they have taken the baton
41:34
and ran and I don't think Ducati can do anything to catch him.
41:39
Right, right. Yeah, No, I think that, you
41:42
know, Ducati with the 8 bikes on the grid, they had a really
41:45
tight crew. They only have one, one guy from
41:49
that original crew. Everyone else has gone on to
41:51
other teams and brought some of that chemistry with them.
41:55
And we've seen it a little bit with KTM, with Jack going over
41:58
and stuff like that. We see it a little bit with
42:00
Aprilia and some of these other guys that that that was signed
42:05
to to Ducati. So I agree there.
42:07
Jordan, what are your thoughts, man, on on what the Factory team
42:10
did on Saturday, 1:00 and 2:00. So a win is a win, but that's
42:14
not how you want to win. And I'd say a little bit of like
42:19
to what you kind of the tail end of what you just said it, it's a
42:21
little bit, it seems it may be a little bit of the Mark Marquez
42:25
effect. Now let's go back a little bit
42:29
when Ducati had eight bikes yet. That's so much data going
42:33
forward. Gigi Delini and everyone's,
42:36
everyone's cooking you, you can share everything.
42:39
Everything's good. They had Martine went on a
42:42
satellite bike, they told him goodbye and then they signed
42:47
Marc Marquez. Bad taste.
42:49
You lost a whole manufacturer that didn't like that, so now
42:52
you lost two Ducatis, Now you're down to 6th.
42:55
Then you create the new GP. It was the GP25 at the time
43:00
where, you know, you geared it a little bit more aggressive or a
43:03
little bit certain way. The front end was never the same
43:07
for Pekko. Pekko raised the alarm bells
43:10
very, very early and said I have no failing of the front end.
43:13
Something's going on. And the factory Ducati team
43:17
looked at him and said you're crazy.
43:19
We got our boy Mark on here. He's riding the thing just fine.
43:23
All the top guys were on Mark's side of the garage.
43:25
And that's what happens when you inject someone like Mark
43:28
Marquez, like Honda, in my in my opinion, he he goes on ready
43:33
made bikes that are beautiful. He can ride anything.
43:36
He ride a tractor. But then development wise, it's
43:39
horrible for other people because everything is geared
43:43
towards him. And then a lot of things get
43:45
masked. So that's what I think is
43:47
showing right now. You have a Ducati that now
43:50
they're so they're a little bit far behind.
43:53
They didn't listen listen to Pekko when he was raising all
43:55
the alarm bells. Now they have this bike, which
43:58
is a Frankenstein bike of 2425 at 26, all mixed together.
44:04
Now they're chasing Aprilia because Aprilia's just had their
44:07
head straight down and they they've gone real aggressive on
44:11
the on the arrow, especially bringing in people from F1 and
44:15
other areas and really putting everything into the package.
44:19
And now is the year that they're putting all of their baskets are
44:23
all their, you know, everything into this year's basket.
44:27
But seeing the, you know, the factory guys struggle a little
44:30
bit. Yeah, it's, it's just showing
44:32
Ducati the lack of a little bit of data.
44:35
And they didn't listen to a lot of the alarm bells.
44:38
And now they're starting to play catch up a little bit and and
44:42
right now they're also with the freezing of the engines, that
44:45
was something. And also with the changing of
44:48
the regulations, they were rarely sitting back saying,
44:51
listen, we have a bike that's semi perfect.
44:54
We're just going to, you know, tweak this, tweak this and then
44:57
we'll be all set rather than going all out.
45:00
And we're just seeing it doing that at the highest level and
45:04
you're going to get surpassed at some point.
45:06
And Aprilia has definitely, you know, stepped up and then
45:10
grabbed the, you know, bull by the horns and said, I'm going to
45:13
throw everything I have at this season, you know, and won't
45:16
worry about, you know, next year's bike when we get there.
45:20
It is starting to show on track. I, I, I, I agree there, you
45:25
know, Trevor should Honda listen to Danny Pedrosa when he was.
45:34
Man, everybody knows they an OEM will cater to the A rider
45:40
because that's the guy getting results, right?
45:42
And you have your test riders and it stems from a test rider
45:44
and stuff too. But from what I see from Ducati
45:46
riding, even with Alex winning the race, the bike is not
45:49
rotating. It's going like this, it's
45:51
pushing, it's doing this. The bike is not rotating
45:54
whatsoever. And so he's not, you know, it's,
45:57
it's, it's just losing the front everywhere.
46:00
And you can even see even though Alex won, his riding style is
46:04
very stiff. He's it's very just rigid.
46:09
Petco keeps losing the front all over the place and the way Mark
46:11
lost that you saw that the bike didn't even try to turn it just,
46:15
you know, and and just went off. So I think they're having some
46:20
chassis issues or maybe they're trying to get ready for
46:23
Pirelli's next year already. And and that could be some of it
46:26
where they're they're already doing some in season testing.
46:29
They're ready to kick everybody's butt next year and
46:31
they're just kind of biting the bullet.
46:33
But from what I see and observe, the bike just doesn't rotate
46:36
right now. There's no front end, it's just
46:38
a piece of 2 by 4 out there that isn't doing anything.
46:43
Yeah, man, no, it, it's pretty wild to see.
46:46
And I'm, I'm, I'm glad that Pekko's getting a little bit of
46:49
indication as far as because he took a lot of, a lot of negative
46:53
press last year. Everybody was just dumping on
46:55
him last year, just dumping on him, just saying, you know, he,
46:58
he, he's no good and then any of that stuff.
47:00
And, you know, and, and, and I don't think Ducati did a pretty
47:03
good job at, you know, standing next to him either and standing
47:06
up for him and Tyson with your thoughts on the on Ducati on, on
47:10
the Sprint and, and wanted to his factory, but struggling.
47:17
Yeah, I think it was definitely was a good sign to at least get
47:21
some points and some results out of this weekend.
47:25
But as other guys said it, it is still quite concerning.
47:30
I hope I hope they start doing well in these European tracks.
47:32
Don't have to have some more data going into them.
47:35
Maybe this could be a stumbling step for Aprilia, but I don't
47:39
see a whole lot of hope when it comes to the bike.
47:44
You know, Mark is one of the best riders on the entire grid
47:47
and he's struggling with this thing.
47:48
He's trying to push it. He's trying to get to the to the
47:51
top of the grid and he's losing the front almost all of the
47:54
races. He's retired for two races this
47:56
this year so far. So they're certainly struggling
48:00
this year. And I don't know what they're
48:02
going to be able to do to figure it out.
48:04
And I don't know how much they're really going to want to
48:05
invest in figuring it out before next year's change.
48:10
Like this is basically the end, the end of a life cycle.
48:13
Do you really want to like throw money in the in the drain
48:16
basically for their long term prospects?
48:18
Right, isn't isn't it weird though to to win the
48:21
championships? You know, since 21 or
48:24
202222232425, right? Yeah, 25 S isn't it weird to
48:31
win, you know, four in a row and you're going to throw away this
48:33
season and get a fifth one? I mean, you know, they could get
48:37
five in a row If, if and I mean, who knows with Didgia because I
48:40
mean, maybe Didgia could pull it off maybe, but he's going to
48:43
have to fight against Martine and and and Bizeki, you know.
48:49
What are your thoughts on that Guys, You know, shouldn't
48:51
shouldn't they really try to win one for this, for this season?
48:53
What? The season's over.
48:56
I don't, I don't think their stock changes if they win or
48:59
lose this championship. You know, they're, they're doing
49:02
so well in other categories and they've already have their their
49:04
legacy in there, you know, and I think ultimately it's good for
49:08
the sport if Aprella wins the championship or another OEM wins
49:12
the championship other than Ducati.
49:13
So yeah, I don't, I don't think it hurts them or benefits them
49:18
either direction. And kind of going back to the
49:20
point just a little bit, they might already be testing.
49:22
They might see some things on the 800 with Pirelli's that are
49:26
really, really positive and they try to input that into the other
49:29
bike and it's not driving with the Michelins.
49:32
So there might be some of that happening, OK.
49:35
All right, Will, it will, Will, let's let's talk about the main
49:38
race. And I just say that we'll go
49:39
around. But that's like you don't want
49:41
to beat that one too much, Alex. I mean, you know, he got out in
49:45
the front. It was hard for anyone to catch
49:47
him. We saw what well, Mark tried to
49:51
catch him and, and, and crashed out in lap 2, which which we, we
49:56
talked a little bit about the Ducati.
49:57
But what are your thoughts on, you know, Aprilia and, and, and
50:01
the satellite Ducati guys? You know, I mean the, the top, I
50:05
mean the top six in the main race.
50:08
Zarko 2 laps to go. I gave up a couple of places.
50:14
Are these six riders kind of until Mark, until Pekko shows
50:20
something else. Are these the six guys that may
50:22
have a chance to fight for the title?
50:24
We start with Harry O. Absolutely.
50:28
You know, before, before 2025, I thought Alex Marquez was, you
50:35
know, able to get to where he had because of nepotism, because
50:39
who his brother was. But after last year and this
50:43
year this guy hit, he can really run and he's really pushed it to
50:48
the limit And he he's fast. And I think because of Mark
50:52
injuries, he's, he's the better market.
50:56
He's a, he's a better Marquez brother.
50:58
And I think like he's, he's the only one, him and Digi are the
51:01
only ones that's going to be able to to, you know, deal with
51:05
the onslaught of the the four Prius.
51:08
It's like. Hey, I want, hey, I'm going to,
51:11
I'm going to, you know what? I like the pasta bikes, the
51:14
Italian bikes, I like them, you know, I like Apriya and Ducati.
51:17
So it's a, it's I want Apriya to win this year.
51:20
But sometimes, you know, depending on how I feel, it's a,
51:23
it's a, it's a heads of tale if it's Ducati, Apriya.
51:26
But I, I like when the different manufacturers, I like when, you
51:30
know, Apriya has been in the shadows and I, and I like the
51:34
way that they're approaching it this year.
51:36
And, and I really want best to win because, you know, I, I
51:39
want, I want him to be one of the Champions, You know, that
51:42
from the VR46 Academy, like Petco to win.
51:46
And, and it seems like it's, it's heading that way.
51:48
And, and it, and it also is good to see what Jorge Martin has
51:53
done from last year, you know, because I almost wrote them off
51:57
myself. And but to see him, you know, go
52:01
through the progressions and see what he's done this year, to be
52:04
#2 after a failed year last year due to his injuries, it's, it's
52:10
commendable. And, and I foresee DJ and Alex
52:14
being the top Ducati riders for the rest of the season because
52:17
they've been fast, they've been fast.
52:19
Alex has been having, you know, some issues, but DJ has been
52:22
there. He's just been there every race.
52:25
Yeah, and I agree with you about Aprilia, man.
52:27
I mean, they, they're one of the few manufacturers that riders
52:31
didn't want to go to for Moto 2. You know, even in the past when
52:35
the Kawasaki was bad and some of these Hondas were bad back in
52:40
the day, guys were still signing and, and, and, and and taking a
52:44
seat. You had a couple of riders in,
52:46
in Moto 2. They they didn't, you know, and
52:48
I think they're being punished now for it.
52:49
But they didn't take the ride when they put your offer to
52:51
them. So they really had a bad rap.
52:53
So to see them have their moment now, it is pretty cool to see.
52:59
I don't, you know, they, they, you know, you know, Benz need to
53:03
buy them or, or BMW needs to buy them because they they're going
53:06
to need that long money like the like Volkswagen did for Ducati.
53:11
At the end of the day, I know it's Audi, but then there's
53:13
Volkswagen and and you know the you know, the the four pro years
53:21
and the and the two satellite by Digia and Alex to be the top six
53:26
guys until Mark shows shows us that he can he can defend his
53:30
title with your thoughts, Jordan.
53:32
I will say it was good to see Alex be a little bit more
53:36
aggressive towards mark. The one thing I I you know, said
53:41
about Alex a lot is in races, when you watch him, it seems he
53:46
races a lot of the other races different than he, you know,
53:51
differently than he does his brother.
53:52
He comes up to mark and then he tippy toes, you know, and then
53:56
he never shows him a wheel, you know, says, Oh no, he's just
53:59
falling a little bit. He's on the same bike.
54:01
But no, this one, you could see he had the intention to pass
54:05
right from the word go. He knew it was his weekend and
54:08
he didn't tiptoe around it. He he took it how he kind of
54:13
wanted to wanted to. So that was good to see him be a
54:17
little bit more aggressive towards his brother then the
54:21
satellite of Prilias. I tell you, Iagura, he's he is
54:26
on some crazy form and I know I'm jumping the gun a little
54:30
bit, but to hear him potentially, you know, or most
54:34
likely jumping off the Aprilia, yeah, to go to a factory team,
54:39
but it's going to be a factory Yamaha and the Yamaha is just a
54:44
just a dog shit bike at the moment, if we're if we're being
54:47
honest. But the Ralph Fernandez, seeing
54:51
him, you know, back showing his potential, being at the sharp
54:55
end is good. Being beaten by Iagura is, you
54:58
know, probably not putting the best, you know, taste in his
55:02
mouth. That's probably giving him some
55:04
hunger and definitely going to keep him going.
55:06
But yeah, those seems like the guys that are going to be at the
55:09
sharp, sharp end, especially Digi as well, seeing him, the
55:13
other strong Ducati, him and Alex, I'd say are the two
55:17
strongest Ducatis on the grid easily at this point.
55:21
Yeah, Trev, man, what are you thinking?
55:24
I know, I know I'm showing Agoura and Fernandez in there
55:27
and might be a little bit premature, but at least Martine
55:31
Digia and Bez and Mark and Alex Marquez, you know it, it could
55:35
get serious down, down and you know by but you know, six round
55:39
16. Yeah, I mean, you could say Joe
55:42
Roberts is the one that didn't take that you know out about it
55:45
too and go to a brilliant man We.
55:48
Love, Joe, I said. I, I don't, you know, podcast
55:50
man. You could say Joe Roberts, He
55:52
he's. Getting a mad rap.
55:55
But but you know, man, I don't know, everybody's tripping on
56:00
the Ducatis, but the, the Aprillias are just riding well.
56:02
And our girl, I hope he, they, they, they say he's going to
56:06
Yamaha. But we'll see.
56:08
Maybe it might be factory Aprillia, I mean, who knows, But
56:12
the points are the points are. Mark has a big gap right now,
56:16
man. It's 44 point difference where
56:18
he's sitting at right now. So he has a lot of he has to
56:21
take more risk than anybody. Like we talked about earlier in
56:24
the race, the parades don't have to take the risk right now.
56:27
They could just keep collecting the points, collecting the
56:29
points. Mark has to make that gap.
56:31
So Mark's going to be making more mistakes and they'll just
56:33
collect the points, so. Good point, good point.
56:37
You do have to, they could manage it now and, and, and, and
56:41
see what happens. Man, it's pretty tricky.
56:44
Tyson, man. What are your thoughts, man on,
56:46
on these guys, man, You know, it's, it's a little early to
56:49
say, but it's looking good and I don't see KTM anywhere.
56:53
So it really is going to be between Ducati.
56:56
And Aprilia, yeah, I don't see KTM anywhere either.
57:02
But if Trevor wasn't going to say it about Joe Roberts, I
57:04
certainly was. That was definitely a whiff of a
57:07
career choice. Like, damn, I do feel bad for
57:11
him. I agree.
57:12
Like, I do feel bad for him. But yeah, it was certainly a
57:15
choice. But yeah, it's certainly going
57:19
to be down to Aprilia, Ducati. And as Trevor said, like I think
57:24
they could manage from here, like if they just start
57:26
collecting points, like, just wait to see if Marquez is
57:29
actually going to do something. And if he doesn't, well, just
57:32
keep collecting points, keep collecting wins here and there,
57:35
and the championship's theirs. Yeah, and they come.
57:38
Down to just. Marquez has the fight against 4,
57:41
not just two. Yeah, yeah, they're looking
57:45
good. All.
57:46
Was it all four Prius in the top 6?
57:49
565 Top 6. I mean, even like their factory
57:53
team or not start the fact the customer teams like out riding a
57:56
bunch of their Ducatis, it's it's going to be a tough year
58:00
for them to try to claw, claw this back.
58:04
It's great to see Diggio doing well like he's been.
58:07
I feel like he's been pretty inconsistent the last couple of
58:09
years and it's good to see him consistently at the sharp end of
58:13
the grid. I like Digia.
58:15
I've, I've always wanted to have more reasons to enjoy him and
58:19
he's giving us those reasons now, so that's good to see.
58:23
I'd like to see him, you know, keep his pace.
58:25
I hope so too, man, because I mean, I, I love when he saved
58:28
his seat. He saved his career at the stay
58:30
in GP with Grassini when he started winning, you know, to,
58:35
to be the top VR46 guy where he's getting the newer bikes.
58:38
He, you know, and Bezos no slouch and and Mobideli's no
58:42
slouch and so forth. So I'm, I'm excited to see that.
58:47
Let's talk about the, the craziness.
58:49
We kind of danced around a little bit.
58:53
You know, Ayagura, I mean, you know, I, you know, early when I
58:56
said it, you know, Trev, you rolled up, you put up your hand,
58:59
say show me the money. I mean, look, you're on a bike
59:02
that's doing so I, I, I, I think about this with Martine as well.
59:05
I know it's a different situation because he pissed off
59:08
of Aprilia. So they just sitting here saying
59:11
no, but I wish he would have. I wish he could have stayed with
59:13
Aprilia for next season. What makes a guy, you know, say
59:17
I'm a go to a factory team, even though I'm on a bike?
59:20
That's I mean, I know next year is going to be a clean slate.
59:24
So we don't know for sure, but you kind of have a feeling based
59:28
on how things are going this year.
59:29
It's not like it's it's it's it's going to be completely
59:32
different. What are your thoughts?
59:34
Harry O on on on. Aya Guru going to Yamaha
59:38
factory. I think I think it's more of
59:42
country thing like his pride for his country.
59:45
I think it's more of that prime example.
59:47
So like if if they had a Jamaican motorcycle, would you
59:50
ride it? They gave you a contract.
59:53
See, and I think that's why I guru took it.
59:55
You know, he knows already what's going on with Honda.
59:57
Hey, Japanese. He's, he's a, he's from Japan
1:00:02
and. He could have signed with Honda
1:00:04
and he didn't and took a priest. Hunter's been struggling.
1:00:09
They both both Honda and Yamaha have been struggling.
1:00:11
I, I, I don't know how that happened.
1:00:13
I don't know how that happened. I think, I think it was, yeah.
1:00:17
I'm kind of surprised that he, he, he, he jumped onto Yamaha.
1:00:21
But I can understand why he I can understand why he left a
1:00:25
prayer to go to Yamaha just because he's he, he's where he's
1:00:30
from. He's from Japan.
1:00:31
Like I heard the rumors about the whole Honda thing, but I
1:00:34
think that Honda seat is David Alonzo's to lose.
1:00:38
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, go ahead.
1:00:42
Yeah, Yeah. Go ahead.
1:00:43
No, I, I, I mean, I I, I kind of feel you on on that, but it's
1:00:47
strange that he didn't sign to in the mid sheet.
1:00:51
Whatever, I'm going to Jack up the name the the LCR team.
1:00:54
I I was kind of surprised by that and and they kind of I
1:00:58
think was shocked by because then they got some cat Contra
1:01:01
and they had a not a good year with him.
1:01:02
And then then so now you lost that sponsor in Moto GP now,
1:01:05
right. And maybe maybe he knew it was
1:01:08
coming, but I don't, I don't think that don't that kind.
1:01:11
Of think it's some kind of family ties.
1:01:13
Yeah. It's got to be some kind of
1:01:14
family. You know, that or Yamaha reached
1:01:19
out sooner and say, look, we want you down the road or
1:01:22
something like that. Because it is it is kind of
1:01:24
weird. Jordan, man, you know, you, you
1:01:27
talked about a little bit. You know, what do you, what do
1:01:31
you think? Why, why he would sign to Yamaha
1:01:33
on the factory. Obviously it's the factory seat.
1:01:35
But like, man, you know I want to win.
1:01:39
Oh, no, I'll I'll agree with Harry O dude, it seems Yamaha,
1:01:43
well, Yamaha has been busy. I mean, they're they haven't
1:01:46
been shy with the the checkbook. I mean, look how much money they
1:01:50
threw to Fabio Cuatraro to get him to stay.
1:01:53
And then, you know, that relationship is, you know, just
1:01:56
turned crazy sour as we as we see it in lifetime.
1:02:00
But yeah, I think it's a, it tends to look like it has to be
1:02:05
something with either family ties, because it's either that
1:02:10
or Yamaha is going around and they have some sort of secret or
1:02:13
something that their next year bike is so far in development
1:02:18
that, you know, they know something that, you know, we the
1:02:21
public don't. That's the only thing that I can
1:02:24
think of. Other than that, who the hell
1:02:25
wants to leave someone that's, you know, an established
1:02:31
manufacturer like Prillia, especially where you know, you
1:02:34
see the atmosphere there seems like one of the best teams to
1:02:38
be, seems that they don't pressure their riders.
1:02:41
Seems like they value and respect their opinions out of
1:02:44
the gate. So, you know, being in that
1:02:47
atmosphere, why the hell would you want to leave?
1:02:49
So there could be no, you know, some back end things, some
1:02:53
family ties, but fam. But Yamaha's has been just
1:02:58
throwing money left and right at riders and getting them to sign.
1:03:02
So it must be something that the, you know, the public
1:03:05
doesn't know that they have cooking potentially.
1:03:07
And you know, the other rumor is that alongside of them is going
1:03:12
to be Jorge Martine. That would be two, two people
1:03:15
from apparel you're going to be snatching and a world champion
1:03:19
potentially. So if they're able to do so,
1:03:23
there has to be something other than money because no one just
1:03:26
wants to sign for money and and be slow.
1:03:29
You know, as a racer, you know, there's not too many people that
1:03:34
want to do that. So who knows, next year during
1:03:39
the roll out of the new regulations, who knows, Yamaha
1:03:41
could have the baddest bike bike we've ever seen.
1:03:45
And who knows, in the back alley, maybe they have a
1:03:48
cooking. That's the only thing I can
1:03:49
think of. Right, Trev, I mean, tell us
1:03:51
what you know, man. I mean, did did something happen
1:03:53
a Honda between Agura? You know how how did Honda how
1:03:58
did Yamaha get this this rider if if it's the rumors are true
1:04:02
for 27. I think you're pretty close
1:04:04
there with the it's a Mitsu, the oil.
1:04:07
Yeah. So he used to ride for them,
1:04:09
which is it's a Honda oil, it's a Mitsu is a Honda oil.
1:04:14
So is Castrol, but it's but when he won the championship, he
1:04:19
wasn't on that bike, he was on the Mt helmets bike.
1:04:22
So there's some politics there that happened.
1:04:25
So it's Mitsu was obviously the title sponsor of LCR back then.
1:04:30
Now it's not, it's Mitsu. It's actually pro Honda
1:04:33
chemicals on on the other bike, which is it's a Mitsu just
1:04:38
branded as pro Honda chemical. So I think it was just politics
1:04:43
on the sponsorship side, you know, in the Yamaha, if you go
1:04:46
to Yamaha, it's trying to see who is his personal sponsor?
1:04:49
Was he sponsored by Monster or something like that?
1:04:52
And he wasn't. So it's it's not going to be a
1:04:54
tie into an energy drink or something like that, you know,
1:04:58
so just Japanese politics because it's a Mitsu is a
1:05:02
Japanese oil. It's a super oil, kind of like a
1:05:04
MO tool. So yeah, man, when they when he
1:05:09
didn't win the championship on that bike and went on the Mt
1:05:11
Helmets bike, then there you have it.
1:05:14
There you go big people motorcycle community hole
1:05:17
grudges yeah oh man Tyson, man, what are your thoughts on what
1:05:25
you've heard and and you know I agree with man going over to
1:05:29
Yamaha. I mean, it's, you know, people
1:05:33
have have left banks for less. I think another angle maybe is
1:05:38
that he's just a young guy and wants a fat paycheck.
1:05:43
I mean, some of these older guys, like they go into places
1:05:45
like you've been in this industry for quite some time.
1:05:48
You've probably racked in quite a few millions of dollars at
1:05:51
this point. Like they're probably not
1:05:52
hurting for a paycheck where he's a young kid.
1:05:55
Was he 2021? Second year Moto GP, Yeah.
1:06:00
I'd have to look up his, He's 20, he's 25, but but he may just
1:06:05
want a cool $10 million, which that sounds nice.
1:06:08
I'd take that. But yeah, I really don't see why
1:06:12
he would he would move to Yamaha other than money, politics or
1:06:17
some sort of, you know, Skunk Works level bike that they're
1:06:21
cooking up for 27 because that Aprilia, it's looking good.
1:06:28
I could also see potentially that the Italian teams may want
1:06:31
to, I'll just say hire Italians. And I could see that potentially
1:06:38
being a problem, him realizing like I'm never going to be on
1:06:40
the factory Aprilia, so I might as well just move to another
1:06:44
factory seat somewhere else. Yeah, I mean that could that,
1:06:48
could that do. You know, it's, it's funny how
1:06:52
you know, we all love the sport, but you know, we root for our
1:06:56
country first. Yeah, yeah, you have a.
1:07:01
Lot of national pride though. Sorry.
1:07:03
Go ahead. No, no, go ahead.
1:07:04
Go. Yeah.
1:07:06
I'll just say a lot of, I mean, a lot of these teams are small
1:07:08
and they have a lot of national pride.
1:07:10
Like, I mean, it's known that the, you know, the Japanese
1:07:12
teams would love to have Japanese riders on their bikes.
1:07:14
So I don't see why the Italian teams wouldn't want to do the
1:07:17
same. I mean, American teams and
1:07:19
whatever other sort of racing, they want Americans in their
1:07:22
bars or whatever. So I just don't see why that
1:07:25
might, that might not, or might be a factor.
1:07:30
Yeah, 100%, man. It's it's, it's really
1:07:33
interesting how the politics just come into play with, with
1:07:36
all this stuff for sure. You know, even the factory is
1:07:41
where the money's at. You hit the nail dead on the
1:07:43
head. It, it's the factory is where
1:07:45
the money's at. The satellite team is never
1:07:47
going to have the type of funding or the type of
1:07:48
sponsorship as the factory team. So even though he can win a
1:07:52
championship on a satellite team, look what, what Martine
1:07:55
did. Won a championship on a
1:07:58
satellite team, bounces out to a factory team.
1:08:02
You're a way bigger paycheck and you're going to see that happen.
1:08:04
And you know, it's curious to see what's going to happen to
1:08:07
Dujia because he's on that satellite team and those Ducati
1:08:11
politics are going to come into play and he's not going to be
1:08:13
getting the Gucci stuff you watch.
1:08:16
They're not going to support Dujia beating Marquez.
1:08:20
It's not going to happen, man. So does that mean that Digi is
1:08:25
out of Ducati next year and. No, no, no, no, he just won't
1:08:31
get the support if he continues where he's at in the points.
1:08:35
And Mark is struggling. Digi is not gonna be getting the
1:08:38
Gucci parts anymore. Mark is going to keep, whether
1:08:42
it's tires or whatever, man, there's so many different ways
1:08:44
to play that politics to where it's kind of underneath the
1:08:48
radar and you'll start seeing the results start to suffer.
1:08:51
Digit is going to start suffering here.
1:08:53
I'd say within 5 races it's going to start coming backwards.
1:08:57
But it's another thing the other way.
1:08:58
You can look at that too. And and five races Mark might
1:09:02
might decide he he will never be able to win again.
1:09:06
That's true. And he could, I mean, if he
1:09:08
continue on doing what he's doing now.
1:09:11
And the way he, I mean, if any of us had an injury, you know,
1:09:14
like once they open you up, your body is never the same again.
1:09:18
And Mark is seeming is going through that whole process.
1:09:21
If he doesn't be successful, if he, if he's not in, you know,
1:09:26
he's a he's a company guy, right?
1:09:27
So like, if he if he's not in the top three going to next
1:09:31
year, he's probably this is probably going to be his last
1:09:33
year because he knows he's not he's going to start all right
1:09:36
back from zero next year. There's no way those guys going
1:09:39
to be he he's he's going to be his riding skill is not going to
1:09:42
conform to to the A50 CCI just don't foresee that.
1:09:46
And if he doesn't be, if he's not successful this year, if he
1:09:49
if he's not in top three, that that could be Digi C right next
1:09:53
to Acosta. You know, you make a good point.
1:09:58
It's possible because of his body.
1:10:00
And and he's already said, he's already on the record of saying
1:10:03
he'll sign on a dotted line if he doesn't get any more
1:10:05
injuries. So clearly it's on the forefront
1:10:06
of his brain. But I when you said that saying
1:10:09
he's not going to want to, you know, finish outside of top
1:10:12
three. I mean, Jonathan Ray in a recent
1:10:14
interview said the same thing. He's like, I retired because I
1:10:16
didn't want to finish top 10. 16.
1:10:22
On the podium, you know, I'm fighting for the podium out.
1:10:25
There's no fun in racing. So there there's something there
1:10:27
for these guys that has won, you know, 6 plus world titles,
1:10:31
right? They, they, it's, it's a
1:10:33
different level at, at at when you got that many world titles.
1:10:37
Could you see, Mark, What was that?
1:10:39
What was that? What satellite team that Rossi
1:10:43
was on before he retired? Could you see Mark doing that?
1:10:52
Did you see Mark going out like that with just a just a season
1:10:58
that you know, to say goodbye? His good welfare?
1:11:01
What is it? Goodbye, goodbye season to
1:11:03
everybody. Moto GP on a.
1:11:05
Farewell. A farewell tour on in 17th
1:11:08
place? Nah.
1:11:11
The monies, right? That's true.
1:11:14
That's true. Only the goat can do that.
1:11:19
Only the goat, only the. Goat There's only one farewell
1:11:23
tour. No doubt, no doubt, guys.
1:11:28
Well, I'll go around the hall real quick to see if I missed
1:11:30
anything that you guys want to talk about before we get out of
1:11:32
here. We start with you.
1:11:34
How are you? I want to know what do you think
1:11:38
about who's who's from Moto 2? Do you think possibly could be
1:11:42
coming up to Moto GP next year just from watching?
1:11:47
I don't know if anybody watch, but it's it's two guys that got
1:11:50
Moto GP styles that race this past weekend.
1:11:53
That's the kid, David Alonzo and the the kid Senna Agus from the
1:12:00
kid from Columbia and Senna Agus Agus from Australia.
1:12:05
Those guys right there have the style for Moto GP.
1:12:08
I watch them this week and it's big talks with those two guys to
1:12:11
move up and just watching this weekend.
1:12:15
They pretty much could have rolled in Moto GP this weekend
1:12:18
just because the way they ride, you know, like you, you can see
1:12:22
like you get, you know, sometimes a Moto 2, they have
1:12:24
that like textbook skill riding, but sometimes styles, styles win
1:12:30
and David Alonzo and Cassinna Agrus has the styles for Moto
1:12:35
GPI foresee them stepping up next year.
1:12:37
I don't know who else is going to come up out of Moto 2, but
1:12:40
this is going to be a lot of open seats next year and I think
1:12:43
those there's. Only a couple of open seats,
1:12:45
man. I'm a.
1:12:47
Fan of Alonso? Yeah, Yeah.
1:12:49
That's a good number. 80 and that's my super bike number,
1:12:51
Moto America. So that's a good number, but it
1:12:55
ties back in to CF, Moto and KTM.
1:13:00
That's true. Yeah, that's going to come full
1:13:03
circle that I think you're at the nail on the head, man with
1:13:05
Alonzo. Senator, he won.
1:13:08
He he Moto two guy. He won at CODA for Moto 2 and he
1:13:12
won this past weekend at the rest.
1:13:14
Yeah, yeah, I can see that. I'm, I'm rooting for Gonzales
1:13:17
too. I think Gonzales, you know, I
1:13:21
think Minos, you know, Ethan Guevara, I think, I think any
1:13:24
rider, not any rider, well, any of these young riders because
1:13:28
it's, I don't think like, you know, a kinet anymore.
1:13:31
Robertson is, I think these guys that's been in it for like 866
1:13:37
to 8 years now. I don't think they're going to
1:13:38
see Moto, Moto GP, which which is unfortunate.
1:13:42
You look at, you know, Dennis Anchu, he struggled.
1:13:45
And I mean, these guys were ridiculous when they were in
1:13:48
Moto 3IN in Moto 3 at the Rookies Cup.
1:13:52
But yeah, I, I, I there's only going to be AI mean rinse is
1:13:55
out. Miller might be out.
1:13:58
Yeah. Who else is There's only, I
1:14:00
mean, unless there's more. I mean, I see things like
1:14:02
Kawasaki's coming on, coming on. Yeah, don't go to be.
1:14:04
Out in there. Seats available.
1:14:12
Ender's not coming back. Oh yeah.
1:14:14
Benda might not. What about mirror?
1:14:17
Mirror. Mirror's out there riding like
1:14:19
Super Dave Osborne every weekend.
1:14:23
Mirror will be back maybe, maybe Benda, Miller and and Rinz.
1:14:30
You So you're saying you think Mirror's going to come back next
1:14:32
year? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:14:34
He's a world champion. He's going to get a seat.
1:14:36
I know he's a worse he. Ain't coming back.
1:14:38
Mirror's like Mirror's probably here.
1:14:43
He should come back as a test rider.
1:14:45
He should come back as a test rider.
1:14:48
Man, he's crashed out for the like the past two years.
1:14:51
He hadn't finished the race, almost.
1:14:54
And he's crashed more than he's finished.
1:14:55
His crash rate is like 60%. I'm sorry.
1:15:01
And then when he did win the championship was off of winning
1:15:04
like one race. Which is I mean.
1:15:07
That watched that season then now talk about a given season.
1:15:11
That was a Kobe year, remember? Yeah, nothing.
1:15:14
I don't count that championship as we.
1:15:16
Don't count the Kobe year but no sports.
1:15:20
Lucky, lucky thing that you guys didn't have to cash a check.
1:15:32
You know, when we go into that shoulda coulda, we could say
1:15:35
that about a lot of championships and, and it's, you
1:15:38
know, Mia did his job. No one gave it to him when he
1:15:42
won it. And you know, whether they
1:15:44
should have, they should have cancelled the season or not, we
1:15:46
had it. He he got it and it is what it
1:15:49
is. It was on a Suzuki too.
1:15:53
And where they at? I know.
1:15:55
Yeah, I know, right? I know, but.
1:15:57
To tie it back, man, who's coming up that's that's a really
1:16:00
good you gossip. You have to always go back and
1:16:03
see where the relationship is for Moto 2 to Moto GP with those
1:16:07
sponsors and the team principles, the as bars, you
1:16:11
know, the Blue Cruise, you know, like Gonzalez, he's on the the
1:16:16
Dinovol Liquid Molly. Where's that?
1:16:18
Like the Moto GP, there's not a pathway, right?
1:16:21
You know what? I mean, I challenge.
1:16:22
I challenge. Stepping stones.
1:16:25
I challenge you all to watch the Coda Coda Moto 2 race and this
1:16:30
past Heraz Code Moto 2 race and watch how Senator Agnes rise.
1:16:36
Man, it is impressive. I watched it, I know, but mostly
1:16:41
I mean it's it's it's there's a there's a lot of fast guys in
1:16:45
Moto 2. There's there's, there's there's
1:16:47
a good. I mean, you know, I mean, I, I,
1:16:49
I think Gonzalez, he may be coming apart because I mean,
1:16:52
he's rare because he came over from world super bike too,
1:16:55
right, the Super sport and came in and.
1:16:58
And Betty, Right? Betty.
1:16:59
Betty, Yeah. Yeah.
1:17:01
And I think last year was his best year to win it and he lost
1:17:04
it against our boy there that came up in in GP.
1:17:09
So it it'll be interesting to see anything else before we get
1:17:13
out of here. Quick question since we
1:17:15
mentioned we mentioned him earlier, Joe Roberts that I got
1:17:19
his got his autograph there from when I was in CODA.
1:17:22
That was a good thing, man. Ever since he ever since he
1:17:26
turned down the Aprilia seat in Moto GP, not a damn thing is
1:17:30
seemed to go go good for him. And that's just a shame because
1:17:35
he's he's our he's our last hope after after SIBO or I ran away
1:17:40
from Moto 2. Now we have 1.
1:17:43
And lately he hasn't done a damn thing and someone needs to get
1:17:48
going. That's all I'm saying.
1:17:51
If he's our last hope for America, someone needs to put a
1:17:54
fire under his under his ass. No, you know, we've talked about
1:18:00
it a few times on the show and getting Americans over in into
1:18:04
the into the world premiere class.
1:18:06
And I mean, I know we're working on it for sure, but it is when
1:18:11
you're the only one in there. And, and, and now he, I mean,
1:18:14
it's kind of tough, right? When you know, you're not going
1:18:16
to get that seat. It's kind of, I don't say you
1:18:19
lose motivation, but like, what's the motivating factor
1:18:23
other than to go to Royal Super bike?
1:18:24
Because eventually, you know, I mean, he may last one more year
1:18:27
in Moto 2, maybe two more years in Moto 2, you know, and, and
1:18:31
that's if the American racing team survives and stays in
1:18:34
there, because I don't know if he'll go to another, another.
1:18:37
He can't be American racing for too long with no Americans.
1:18:40
Yeah. It's a it's going to be a tough
1:18:44
look. Don't be like Haas.
1:18:48
Yeah, hey, KDKDJR did have a good weekend though in the in
1:18:54
the Red Bull Cup, so he's on his way.
1:18:58
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
1:18:59
I think that people coming, I don't, I, I do have faith that
1:19:02
that it will happen. It's it's it's weird because,
1:19:05
you know, I mean, I've given Cam Oba crap for not staying in, in
1:19:09
in Moto 2 as well. And and it's easy for me to sit
1:19:12
here at home at my couch all the time.
1:19:16
You know, somebody they should live out of their suitcase.
1:19:20
You know, it would be nice as it it we, you know, we, we, as you,
1:19:24
as all of us have said, we want we want to see more Americans in
1:19:26
in the top level racing and stuff like that.
1:19:28
So we that I mean, I say it in the best intention as far as
1:19:31
that, because it's like we just want to see more Americans at
1:19:33
the top level like it was, you know, Once Upon a time, as they
1:19:37
say. Absolutely.
1:19:41
All right, guys, Well, I want to thank everyone for coming now.
1:19:44
My name is Rex 45. It's the be forever cool
1:19:46
podcast. I want to thank.
1:19:49
Dang, there's a lot of people to thank tonight.
1:19:50
I want to thank Cario from 2 wheels 1 chain, Jordan, Trevor
1:19:55
Watson from a high Rev Trevor, you know Tyson, thank you guys
1:20:00
for coming on man Peace. Yeah.
1:20:03
Have a good one, gentlemen. Yep, take care.