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- 0:04Welcome back on this Monday, on the final day of July. Last time,
- 0:10on Thursday, we looked at God's joy and how his joy becomes our
- 0:15joy by the Holy Spirit, a really key episode EPJA nineteen sixty two.
- 0:20This week we continue on the joy theme, but we add another theme to
- 0:23it, the theme of doubt. In fact, can we struggle with doubt
- 0:28and experience joy in God? That's today, and next time we look at
- 0:33how to fight off the inner skeptic when we have doubts about what we read
- 0:37about in the Bible. That's on Thursday. So today can we struggle with
- 0:42doubt and delight in God at the same time. That's Steve's question. He
- 0:46lives in Nashville. Hello, Pastor John. My question for you is about
- 0:48how much joy I can hope to experience in the Christian life as someone who
- 0:52struggles seasonally with doubt. Sometimes I struggle with doubts about whether God exists,
- 0:59or whether God is good based on all the evil that I see in the
- 1:02news, or I doubt whether God has a plan and purpose for my life.
- 1:07These doubts come and go. They're seasonal. None of them extinguish the
- 1:11smoldering flax that is my faith. The doubts do not stay long and they
- 1:15do not overwhelm me. So my question for you is this, can I
- 1:19ever hope to have deepening joy in God in seasons when I also struggle with
- 1:26doubts like these? Or as joy in God simply impossible when doubts are present.
- 1:33I think the answer to that last question is no, it is not
- 1:38impossible to experience joy in God when doubts are present. And I think the
- 1:45answer to the question just before it is yes, you can hope to have
- 1:53deepening joy in God in seasons when you are also struggling with So those are
- 2:00my two answers. Now let's try to think biblically about this. First,
- 2:07a definition, doubt comes in all sizes and shapes and durations and levels of
- 2:15seriousness. So I'm going to call doubt of a Christian variety, that is,
- 2:22doubts that real born again Christians have from time to time. I'm going
- 2:27to call those doubts thoughts that enter our minds from who knows where it could
- 2:35be Satan's fiery darts, desires of the flesh, skeptical associate at work who
- 2:44mocks your religion, some new scientific argument, lack of sleep, dalliance with
- 2:50sin, all kinds of sources for how doubt rise or thoughts rise in our
- 2:57minds. So thoughts that enter the mind that make us wonder whether something the
- 3:04Bible teaches is really true or whether we ourselves are as real as we think
- 3:12we were. Those are the two kinds of doubts that I think a Christian
- 3:17wrestles with. Christian truth claims may not be true or we may not be
- 3:23true. Now, for the Christian, these thoughts are not conclusions. These
- 3:34are intrusions. They break in like a thief. They start moving around the
- 3:40house of your mind and knocking things over and making threats. This really does
- 3:47happen to Jesus followers. When Peter started to sink after walking a few steps
- 3:53on the water, Jesus said, why did you doubt? When Jesus appeared
- 3:58after the resurrection, it says they worshiped him, but some doubted. Jude
- 4:03twenty two says, have mercy. This is in the church. Have mercy
- 4:09on those who doubt. In other words, such doubting is not a sign
- 4:14of no faith, it's a sign of embattled faith. When Paul says we
- 4:20should fight the good fight of faith. First Timothy six twelve. He included
- 4:27in his meaning when doubts intrude, fight them. Fight them with prayer,
- 4:33I believe, Lord, help my unbelief. That's a prayer, or fight
- 4:39them with the word. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word.
- 4:44That doesn't just apply at the front end of the Christian life thoughts.
- 4:46Every day we fight doubt by the word, fight it by obedience. John
- 4:51seventeen says, if anyone's will is to do my will, he'll know,
- 4:57he'll know whether the teaching is of God. Obedient people will have fewer doubts
- 5:00than disobedient people. And my answer to Steve's question is that during that battle,
- 5:09during that season of doubt, it is possible to experience, alongside the
- 5:15anxiety of doubt, deepening joy in God. Now why would I say that
- 5:24first, Because the anxieties of doubt are a kind of sorrow. And Paul
- 5:31says in Second Corinthian six ten that Christians can have experience of joy at the
- 5:39same time as experiencing sorrow, as sorrowful yet always rejoicing, as poor yet
- 5:46making many rich, as having nothing yet possessing everything. If sorrow and joy
- 5:51can mysteriously coexist in the same heart at the same time. And they can
- 6:00then doubt and joy in God can coexist at the same time. Picture doubt
- 6:09as the troubled waters on the surface of the sea, and picture the new
- 6:15creation reality of faith as the deep still waters of the ocean depths beneath second
- 6:25I think in Paul's mind, perplexity is another way of talking about some kinds
- 6:32of doubt. And he says in second Corinthians four eight, we are afflicted
- 6:40in every way, but not crushed, perplexed but not driven to despair.
- 6:47So what is perplexity. Perplexity is a state of confusion or uncertainty, uncertainty,
- 6:58And what is uncertainty but a kind of doubt. And yet Paul admits
- 7:03to experiencing this kind of perplexity, doubt but knowing full well he will not
- 7:11be destroyed by it, perplexed but not driven to despair. And that confidence
- 7:16beneath the perplexity can be experienced as a kind of deep joy in God's keeping.
- 7:27Picture a child lost in the forest, But underneath that growing anxiety of
- 7:33the child and his growing doubts is the deep confidence Dad, he will find
- 7:38me, he said, He would he will find me. He promised to
- 7:42keep me. Third, consider Romans five, three and four. We rejoice
- 7:49in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance. An endurance produces a provedness,
- 7:56and a provedness produces hope. Now, what that text teaches is that
- 8:01the reason we can rejoice in times of misery suffering hurts, it's misery.
- 8:09The reason we can rejoice in times of misery is that we have learned that
- 8:16enduring through the experiences of misery has the effect of giving us a sense of
- 8:22authenticity. We made it, We're real. We have been tested by fire
- 8:30and found to be approved. And that he says produces hope, and hope
- 8:35is why we can rejoice. That's the argument. And I think the very
- 8:39same process of testing and enduring and hope and joy can be experienced when the
- 8:48kind of suffering is not physical pain but psychological doubt. We rejoice in our
- 8:54seasons of doubt, knowing that the suffering of doubt produces endure. An endurance
- 9:00produces a provence, and a provenness produces hope. And that's the ground of
- 9:05our joy. And I would answer Steve's question, that's the ground of deepening
- 9:11joy. Yes, can I experience deepening joy in these seasons? And my
- 9:16answer was yes. In fact, he said these kinds of doubts are recurrent
- 9:22seasonal. When that's true, every season of doubt with triumph on the other
- 9:31side can bring a deepening sense that God is faithful. God will hold me
- 9:37fast. I can, in a sense laugh at these intrusions on my peace.
- 9:45I can scorn the foam and the waves on the surface because in the
- 9:50deep waters of my soul I enjoy. I enjoy paradoxical calm because of christ
- 10:00keeping promises. So yes, Steve, you can hope to have deepening joy
- 10:07in God in these recurring seasons of doubt. Every season of doubt with triumph
- 10:18on the other side, can bring a deepening sense that God is faithful.
- 10:22Thank you, Pastor John for that hope giving word, and thank you for
- 10:26joining us today. If you want to ask Pastor John, email your question
- 10:30to us that ask Pastor John at Desiring God dot Org. As we close,
- 10:35I want to highlight one point from early in this episode that you made,
- 10:39Pastor John. You mentioned that struggle with doubt when thoughts enter our mind
- 10:43that make us wonder whether something the Bible teaches is really true, that doubt
- 10:48battling the inner agnostic in our Bible reading. That's up next. I'm your
- 10:54host, Tony Rinkie. We'll see you on Thursday.