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“Insurrection: Season Finale.” (Live from Seattle!) · Pod Save America

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  Speaker 1: What's up, Seattle?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Nagin Farsad.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Tommy Visor.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Jon Lovett is not here. because Joe Biden gave
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  Speaker 2: him COVID.
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  Speaker 4: Are we sure it's not the other way around?
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  Speaker 2: It might have been. It was just a fist bump.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know that it would. I thought that was
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  Speaker 2: supposed to avoid that. But we are very lucky to
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  Speaker 2: have the hilarious Nagin Farsad with us on this swing.
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  Speaker 2: If you have not already been listening to her podcast,
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  Speaker 2: Fake the Nation, please go subscribe. It is hilarious. And
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  Speaker 2: we are also lucky to have with us tonight your governor,
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  Speaker 2: Jay Inslee. All right. All right, let's get to the news.
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  Speaker 2: The January 6th committee just wrapped up the season finale
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  Speaker 2: of Insurrection. a primetime blockbuster that focused on the 187
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  Speaker 2: minutes where Donald Trump sat back and watched his favorite
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  Speaker 2: TV shows cover the violent attack on the U.S. Capitol
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  Speaker 2: that he incited and then celebrated. The hearing featured in-person
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  Speaker 2: testimony from Trump's former Deputy National Security Advisor and Deputy
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  Speaker 2: Press Secretary, who both resigned on January 6th as a
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  Speaker 2: result of the President's actions, video testimony from White House
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  Speaker 2: Counsel Patsy Baloney and others, It also featured some very
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  Speaker 2: intense testimony from a former Trump security official whose image
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  Speaker 2: and voice was covered up for their protection, who told
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  Speaker 2: a harrowing story of what Mike Pence's staff was doing
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  Speaker 2: when they learned that the mob was coming for them.
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  Speaker 2: Let's listen.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of very personal calls over the radio.
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  Speaker 7: It was.
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  Speaker 6: Disturbing. I don't like talking about it, but... that there
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  Speaker 6: were calls to say goodbye to family members, so on
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  Speaker 6: and so forth. It was getting, for whatever the reason
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  Speaker 6: was on the ground, the VP detail thought that this
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  Speaker 6: was about to get very ugly.
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  Speaker 2: Lovely, lovely stuff. Nagin, I would love to hear where
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  Speaker 2: you think tonight's hearing ranks in the pantheon of series finales.
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  Speaker 2: But also, in addition to this being the finale, It
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  Speaker 2: was also only the second primetime hearing. Why do you
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  Speaker 2: think the committee wanted to broadcast this specific hearing and
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  Speaker 2: what they said in this hearing and the testimony of
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  Speaker 2: this hearing to such a big audience?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, first, let me just say that these
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  Speaker 3: hearings have been my Gilmore Girls. It's the Liz Cheney,
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  Speaker 3: Adam Kinzinger, like, Lorelei, Rory banter.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Will they, won't they?
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  Speaker 3: Well, they're daughter and mother.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I haven't watched that series.
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  Speaker 2: Tommy and Abby, if you were.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so embarrassed that you didn't already know that.
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  Speaker 5: Who is Luke in this scenario?
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  Speaker 2: But no, Liz Cheney is the daughter.
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  Speaker 3: And I actually meant to show up in my Liz
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  Speaker 3: Cheney cosplay, and my wig got COVID, so I didn't. No,
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  Speaker 3: this has been so great. So many cliffhangers. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: in general, I feel like they've done a terrific job. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I do want to stress that it's a season finale
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  Speaker 3: and not a series finale, John.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. That was my, I misspoke. Yeah. That
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  Speaker 2: was my bad.
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  Speaker 3: Because what, you know, I think you're setting people up
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  Speaker 3: for being like, oh, that was like Journeys Don't Stop Believing.
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  Speaker 3: Is Tony Soprano dead or not?
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  Speaker 8: Oh, right.
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  Speaker 3: And it was not a series finale. So we don't
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  Speaker 3: have to have that conversation.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think in.
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  Speaker 3: Terms of setting up a cliffhanger for Saison D'os, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like they did a terrific job. And in terms
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  Speaker 3: of taking over primetime, love that. I'm still the kind
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  Speaker 3: of person that'll flip through channels. I'm from the 1920s.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that's great. I would love for the
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  Speaker 3: committee to develop some sort of technology to interrupt everyone
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  Speaker 3: watching Stranger Things.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Because that, I think, will be more effective.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's right. I think that's right. What did
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  Speaker 2: people think was the most compelling or surprising moments from
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  Speaker 2: this particular hearing? Tommy?
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  Speaker 4: I want to keep the good times rolling before we
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  Speaker 4: get to the serious stuff. The most memorable, greatest thing
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  Speaker 4: out of this two hours of television was.
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  Speaker 5: Josh Hawley running.
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  Speaker 4: Josh Hawley running. The thing I love about the committee,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's a lot of Liz, I think it's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of Adam Kinzinger, is they are vindictive. And
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  Speaker 4: they are settling some scores. And they're mad at the
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  Speaker 4: Republicans that have pushed them out of the party. and
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  Speaker 4: force them to seek retribution. So maybe we could watch
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  Speaker 4: a little of that?
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  Speaker 2: You want to shoot someone in the face, you send
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  Speaker 2: a Cheney. Send a Cheney. That's what we've been saying.
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  Speaker 6: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: And that is.
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  Speaker 2: And that is what they did to Josh Hawley tonight.
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  Speaker 2: For those of you who were outside and didn't get
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  Speaker 2: to see it, they showed footage of Josh Hawley, of course,
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  Speaker 2: doing his stupid fucking fist bump where he tried to
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  Speaker 2: inspire the rioters. There it is. And then they showed
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  Speaker 2: never-before-seen footage of Josh Hawley fleeing from those same rioters.
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  Speaker 2: Let's play it. There he goes.
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  Speaker 4: LAUGHTER There he goes.
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  Speaker 2: There he goes. There he goes. Get out of there. Now,
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  Speaker 2: you were all laughing so you didn't hear it, but
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  Speaker 2: in the committee room, there was laughter.
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  Speaker 5: They were laughing.
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  Speaker 2: This very serious hearing about violence and horror. Laughter. Laughing
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  Speaker 2: their asses off.
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  Speaker 3: He basically was Forrest Gumping out of the building. I
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  Speaker 3: think Josh Hawley is still running somewhere in America. It
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  Speaker 3: was track and field insurrection edition.
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  Speaker 7: With Josh Hawley.
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  Speaker 2: That clip has now been set to every song known
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  Speaker 2: to man on the internet over just the last half hour.
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  Speaker 9: If you think America is hopeless divided, just know Republicans, Democrats, MAGA, Resistance, Twitter,
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  Speaker 9: all think Josh Hawley is a fucking doofus.
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  Speaker 2: Hate the guy. Ted Cruz is like breathing a sigh
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  Speaker 2: of relief. He's like, finally, someone else is the most
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  Speaker 2: hated person in America.
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  Speaker 5: They would have had to speed up the video of
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  Speaker 5: Ted Cruz running.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So there was the Josh Hawley moment. There
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  Speaker 2: was no other purpose for that than just a fuck
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  Speaker 2: you to Josh Hawley from the committee, which I applaud.
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  Speaker 2: I applaud. Dan, did you have anything that you want to?
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  Speaker 9: I think another moment was the committee showed outtakes of
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  Speaker 9: Trump's speech.
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  Speaker 2: Bloopers.
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  Speaker 5: Bloopers, if you will.
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  Speaker 9: The Trump blooper reel was pretty good.
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  Speaker 5: And Trump in there really stumbled over the word yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I think we have a clip of that as well.
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  Speaker 10: I would like to begin by addressing the heinous attack yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday is a hard word for me.
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  Speaker 3: Just take it out.
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  Speaker 4: The heinous attack.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, good.
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  Speaker 10: Take the word yes or that, because it doesn't work
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  Speaker 10: with the heinous attack.
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  Speaker 5: On our country.
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  Speaker 1: Say on our country.
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  Speaker 11: My only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote.
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  Speaker 11: My only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote.
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  Speaker 5: The hand motions.
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  Speaker 6: Yikes.
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  Speaker 3: It was like community theater.
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  Speaker 1: What was the flip down?
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  Speaker 4: What does that mean? Why did he do that?
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  Speaker 2: Every president wonders what their etched in stone quote is
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  Speaker 2: going to be. And I think we just heard Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump's yesterday is a hard word for me.
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  Speaker 9: He did also say in those outtakes, less amusingly, more alarmingly,
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  Speaker 9: that he refused to say the words the election is over.
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  Speaker 9: And still, two years later, has not said them.
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  Speaker 4: He apparently also didn't want to say stay peaceful in
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  Speaker 4: one of the few tweets he sent on the day. Apparently,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this group of Trump aides was sent into
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  Speaker 4: the little dining room next to the Oval Office where
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  Speaker 4: Trump was sitting all throughout all this watching the insurrection
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  Speaker 4: on TV. And they said, sir, we really want you
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  Speaker 4: to tweet, you know, get out of there, stay peaceful.
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  Speaker 4: And he resisted that, according to Kayleigh McEnany.
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  Speaker 9: Which is weird as a longtime well-known proponent of civil disobedience.
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  Speaker 5: It's strange. Yeah, it's true.
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  Speaker 2: I do think that the point of this finale was,
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  Speaker 2: and they said this many times, every single staffer in
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  Speaker 2: the White House with Trump during the insurrection told him
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  Speaker 2: at some point, begged him, urged him, pleaded with him
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  Speaker 2: to make a statement to tell the rioters to go home,
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  Speaker 2: and he refused.
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  Speaker 4: They also did a really good job, I think, of
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  Speaker 4: making clear how much the rioters were listening to.
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  Speaker 2: Him in real time.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you were joking as we were watching, like,
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  Speaker 4: It's pretty remarkable that these rioters were bashing cops with
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  Speaker 4: one hand and reading Twitter with the other.
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  Speaker 3: They were so good at refreshing Twitter while trying to
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  Speaker 3: take down democracy, which I thought was more of a
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  Speaker 3: two-hand sport.
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  Speaker 2: But apparently.
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  Speaker 4: But once he finally put out the video, there were
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  Speaker 4: videos of the QAnon shaman saying, hey guys, Trump said
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  Speaker 4: we should go home, time to get out of here.
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  Speaker 4: So they actually listened to him, and I think the
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  Speaker 4: committee wanted to drill that home.
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  Speaker 2: Also, there was a moment where Trump had a tweet
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  Speaker 2: earlier where he said, don't. don't hurt our great police,
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  Speaker 2: our Capitol Police, or something like that. And there's a
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  Speaker 2: clip of the rioter saying, Trump said don't hurt the
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  Speaker 2: Capitol Police, but he didn't say anything about the members
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  Speaker 2: of Congress. So let's go get them. And so clearly
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  Speaker 2: they were listening to every single word that he said.
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  Speaker 2: I also think that, I think that this hearing did
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  Speaker 2: more damage, political damage, to other Republicans, other members of Congress,
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  Speaker 2: than almost any of the other hearings. Obviously the Hawley thing,
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  Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy, did not come out very well in this hearing.
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  Speaker 4: Or any other venue.
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  Speaker 9: Honestly, it did include the only relatable warm moment of
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  Speaker 9: Kevin McCarthy's fucking life when he is reported to have
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  Speaker 9: called Trump to try to get him to make a
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  Speaker 9: statement to tell him he would go home, and he
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  Speaker 9: says his staff is running for their lives at the moment,
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  Speaker 9: and they show video of it, and then you have
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  Speaker 9: to watch video and know that only weeks later, Kevin
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  Speaker 9: McCarthy would throw himself at Trump's knees and beg for
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  Speaker 9: forgiveness and then become one of his leading proponents in Congress.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What did you guys think of the two witnesses, Sarah
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  Speaker 2: Matthews and Matthew Pottinger?
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  Speaker 1: I thought they were compelling.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Matthew Pottinger, you know, he started out as
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  Speaker 4: the Asia expert on the NSC. He was promoted to
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  Speaker 4: the deputy national security advisor, which is an incredibly important,
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  Speaker 4: powerful position. And he decided, you know, he's sort of
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  Speaker 4: a a bit of an establishment conservative foreign policy guy,
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  Speaker 4: but also was clearly full MAGA for four years, and
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  Speaker 4: then did the right thing on January 6th and resigned.
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  Speaker 4: But then, you know, they were talking to him about, well,
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  Speaker 4: did he resign that evening? He was like, well, no,
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  Speaker 4: because my boss was traveling overseas. So I was literally
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  Speaker 4: the most senior national security official in the entire White House.
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  Speaker 4: So I slept in my office that night until my
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  Speaker 4: boss got back. And that to me was just a
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  Speaker 4: reminder of the stakes. Also, just from a former NSC
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  Speaker 4: nerd perspective, I mean, To see Chuck Schumer and Mitch
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  Speaker 4: McConnell and Nancy Pelosi on the phone with the Secretary
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  Speaker 4: of Defense ordering around the U.S. military and then the
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  Speaker 4: Vice President calling General Milley and others and telling DOD
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  Speaker 4: what to do and knowing that Trump did not call
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  Speaker 4: the Defense Department one time or lift a finger, it's
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  Speaker 4: really a staggering fact to acknowledge given the way the
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  Speaker 4: system is supposed to work.
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  Speaker 3: Can I also say something weird, which is that I
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  Speaker 3: also felt about these witnesses, and a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: witnesses over the time, that every time that we, over
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  Speaker 3: those four years, heard from someone in the Trump administration,
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  Speaker 3: they were sort of like, dum-dums. Or meanie pants dum-dums.
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  Speaker 3: Like one or the other. And these witnesses were eloquent, thoughtful,
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  Speaker 3: and so you're sort of like, oh, some of you
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  Speaker 3: were there, they just never allowed you to.
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  Speaker 4: Talk out loud.
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  Speaker 2: And there was a little bit of like, glad you
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  Speaker 2: resigned on January 6th as they were storming the Capitol.
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  Speaker 2: But you clearly knew for a while, like Sarah Matthews
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  Speaker 2: at one point was just like, look, I traveled all
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  Speaker 2: around the country with Trump and I went to all
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  Speaker 2: these rallies. So I know the power of his words.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, you did. And it took you
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  Speaker 2: this fucking long?
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  Speaker 9: That is my reaction every time. It's like, yes, it
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  Speaker 9: is good that these people are testifying now. And testifying
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  Speaker 9: publicly is going to come at great cost to them professionally.
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  Speaker 9: Their position in the Republican Party is going to be damaged.
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  Speaker 9: I'm sure they're going to get threats. Cassie Hutchinson had
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  Speaker 9: to get security after her testimony. But I'd also be like,
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  Speaker 9: what did you think was going to happen? This was
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  Speaker 9: so predictable. The Sarah Matthews case is like, I traveled
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  Speaker 9: with him, so you were fine with figurative calls to violence.
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  Speaker 9: But when the calls to violence got literal, that was
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  Speaker 9: your breaking point?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The man he was on January 6th is the man
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  Speaker 4: he has always been. Sarah Matthews... Interestingly, Sarah Matthews now
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  Speaker 4: works in Congress. She works in the House on the
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  Speaker 4: Republican side of the Select Committee on Climate Change, which
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  Speaker 4: makes me think she has a lot of free time.
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  Speaker 4: But the House Oversight Committee, which is controlled by Elise Stefanik,
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  Speaker 4: sort of who's gone full MAGA from once being sort
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  Speaker 4: of a moderate congresswoman, was attacking her.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: By name. During the hearing.
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  Speaker 4: During the hearing. They actually deleted the tweet. But I
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  Speaker 4: thought that was remarkable. One other thing that jumped out
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  Speaker 4: at me, though, was the committee... really wanted to highlight
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  Speaker 4: a quote from Eric Eastman about how the staff was
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  Speaker 4: really drained at like 4 p.m. on January 6th, and
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  Speaker 4: they all went home early.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were drained. It was a tough day, tough
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  Speaker 2: day at the White House. Tough day for those staffers.
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  Speaker 2: Watching the attack on the Capitol. Stepping back to just
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  Speaker 2: talk about all of the hearings now, that the season
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  Speaker 2: is over with more to come. With all the usual
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  Speaker 2: disclaimers about the polls, Tommy, what does the data at
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  Speaker 2: this moment tell us about... what kind of political effect
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  Speaker 2: these hearings are having.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that there's a growing consensus that
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  Speaker 4: the hearings are breaking through and are having an impact.
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  Speaker 4: I think there was some polling today that showed 60%
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  Speaker 4: of Americans overwhelmingly support the hearings happening. A similar percentage
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  Speaker 4: supports DOJ filing criminal charges. There's a woman named Sarah
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  Speaker 4: Longwell who works at the Bulwark who does lots of
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  Speaker 4: focus groups with Republican voters. And she said recently, um,
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  Speaker 4: More and more and more of her groups, she's hearing
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  Speaker 4: from the people in the room, the Republicans in the room,
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  Speaker 4: that they don't want Trump to run. They're sick of
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  Speaker 4: hearing about January 6th. They're sick of hearing about him
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  Speaker 4: and all the problems they're causing. And they're like, anybody else?
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  Speaker 4: Ron DeSantis, like, give us someone new.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, come on.
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  Speaker 5: You don't like Ron?
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  Speaker 4: So they're clearly like the Trump exhaustion is coming back.
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  Speaker 2: Will that stick? We don't know. I mean, Dan, for now,
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  Speaker 2: these hearings are over. like with about a hundred days
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  Speaker 2: left to the midterms, like to what extent should democratic
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  Speaker 2: candidates and democratic campaigns incorporate what we've learned from these
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  Speaker 2: hearings into their midterm message? Or is it more important
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  Speaker 2: to move on to other issues? Like what?
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  Speaker 9: I think the risk of these hearings for Democrats in
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  Speaker 9: the short term politically is that they are by design
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  Speaker 9: incredibly focused on Donald Trump and the past. And what
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  Speaker 9: that ignores and potentially obscures is the very real, ongoing,
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  Speaker 9: active conspiracy to steal the next election. Not through some
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  Speaker 9: sort of riot at the Capitol, not through some sort
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  Speaker 9: of fake thing with the Vice President, but by taking
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  Speaker 9: control of the electoral apparatus in this country to be
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  Speaker 9: in charge of who counts the votes, who picks the electors,
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  Speaker 9: and who sends those electors to Congress. And that, I think,
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  Speaker 9: What Democrats have to do is not look backwards, not
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  Speaker 9: look at Trump, look at the fact that what the
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  Speaker 9: entire party is doing, what MAG Republicans are doing, and
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  Speaker 9: to tie the effort of this extreme authoritarian insurrectionist minority,
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  Speaker 9: their efforts to seize political power at all costs, through
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  Speaker 9: election suppression, election, through insurrection, through violence if need be,
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  Speaker 9: to implement this extremist, out-of-touch, unpopular agenda, which includes everything from,
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  Speaker 9: and you can pick off a large menu of unpopular,
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  Speaker 9: terrible policies for your race, but from banning abortion, banning
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  Speaker 9: gay marriage, banning books, tax cuts for corporations, getting rid
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  Speaker 9: of the Affordable Care Act, cutting Social Security and Medicare.
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  Speaker 9: These are things that could never become law if the
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  Speaker 9: majority of this country, the growing, progressive, diversifying majority, had power.
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  Speaker 9: So this extremist minority is trying to seize it. And
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  Speaker 9: I think you can tell that entire story without ever
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  Speaker 9: saying the words Donald or Trump.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Nagin, do you think, is there a moment or a
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  Speaker 2: piece of evidence or someone's testimony that you think will
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: stay with people and not just people who are like
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: political junkies, but people who may have just like casually
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: tuned in to these hearings over the last month?
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Well, one thing that Liz Cheney said at the very
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: end is, she pointed out that the witnesses have made
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: a series of confessions. And I thought that was really,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: because you have wondered over the last couple of years, like,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: what were these people thinking when that was going down?
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: And now we know because they have just confessed to
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: all of it. And that was really powerful to me. Like, yeah,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: we have literally just been watching all of these hardcore
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Trump supporters confess. To everything that went down. So that's
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: something that has really stuck with me. The actual people
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: on the ground that were witnesses talking about how his
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: words riled them up. That, you know, really spoke to me.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Some of their 3D maps of the White House.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: They love those maps. Just, they love a map.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: And I.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Was really impressed by just the general map and PowerPoint
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: game that we saw in these hearings.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, well done, guys.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Big week for cartographers.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I agree with you, yeah. Huge, huge.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: It was interesting that Cheney drew a distinction at the end.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: She's like, please notice that there are these young women
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: putting their lives and careers on the line to testify today,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: and then 60-year-old men hiding behind executive privilege.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. That was.
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: The one thing that I think is notable, as we
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: look back at all these hearings, is you almost never
• 20:31
  Speaker 9: heard Democrats speak.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: The bulk of the... All the witnesses we heard from were.
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: supporters of Trump, staff of Trump, the vast majority of
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: the people speaking in the committee were Liz Cheney and
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: Adam Kinzinger. Every once in a while they let a
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: Democrat narrate a video periodically, but that's by design because
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: if we are trying to convince people who were either
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: supportive of Trump in 2020, who are skeptical about the
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: integrity of the election, you have to use Republicans to
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: do it. There's a study from Stanford University where they
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: took a panel of 2,000 people They showed some of
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: them videos of Republicans named identified Republicans saying the election
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: was legitimate and there was no fraud. They showed some
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: people from Democrats in news media people and some people
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: no information at all. And the people who heard from
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: Republicans were 5% more likely to believe that the election
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: was legitimate. And so this is a very clear and
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: I think effective strategy with that sort of narrow margin
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: of people that we are trying to persuade here.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: One more thing before we go. A stated goal of
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: these hearings has always been to pass a series of
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: reforms to prevent the next coup from happening. Liz Cheney
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: and Zoe Lofgren, members of the committee, released a statement
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: this week saying they're working on those reforms. But a
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: bipartisan group of senators led by Susan Collins and Joe
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Manchin just introduced legislation that would.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I honestly, I was like, I gotta say these names fast.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Because we're gonna get this. Understandable, it's okay.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I wonder which would have gotten booed more if you
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: sort of spaced it out.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's, yeah.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Not clear to me.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Anyway, they just introduced legislation that would clarify, that they
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: say would clarify the vice president, that the vice president
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: can't overturn the election, make it harder for Congress to
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: overturn the election, and make it harder for states to
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: send competing slates of electors. Dan, what do you think
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: about this bill? What's good? What's less good? Should Democrats
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: support it?
• 22:26
  Speaker 9: Well, this bill will, I think, address one of the
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: great threats to democracy. the prospect of Kamala Harris stealing
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: the election in 2024. I mean, look, in all seriousness,
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: I think this bill is fine. It does a couple things. One,
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: it establishes that the vice president's role in the certification
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: election is ministerial to get rid of this insane conspiracy
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: theory that nobody believed then, before, now, or the future
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: about the role of the vice president.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: Second, it makes it harder to challenge the results.
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: Instead of just one single member of Congress, you now
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: need a fifth of either body to do it. Now,
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: The Republicans had like three times that in 2020, so
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: it doesn't really solve the problem there. It also puts
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: in some safeguards that make it harder for states to
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: appoint new electors after the election. Now, a lot of
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: lawyers that we know and have worked with and respect,
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: like Mark Elias and Norm Eisen, somebody who worked in
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: the White House, have pointed out there are some loopholes
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: in this bill that would allow very malicious actors in
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: states to call fake voter fraud a quote-unquote catastrophic event,
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: and then theoretically appoint.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: New electors after that.
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: There is a looming court case that the court agreed
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: to hear, they're going to hear this fall, called Moore v. Harper,
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: which involves this completely insane theory about independent state legislatures,
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: which would potentially, in this situation, allow state legislatures to
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: ignore the laws, ignore the veto of their governor and
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: appoint electors on their own. So you could have a
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: state in like Wisconsin or Michigan where we have Democratic
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: governors and hopefully still have them in 2024. And the
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: Republican legislatures in those states, which are in place because
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: of extreme partisan gerrymandering the Supreme Court also won't do
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: anything about, could theoretically appoint electors.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: So this will be good.
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: I would say, I guess my final analysis would be
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: that it increases the degree of difficulty for insurrections, but
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: it doesn't get rid of them.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I do think the danger right now
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: is that some Republican governor or some Republican state legislature
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: just decides to send their own slate of electors and
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: a Republican Congress decides to accept those competing slate of
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: electors and then an election is overturned. What this does
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: is this sets up a judicial review. Now, people may
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: rightly say, oh no, the judiciary is stacked with right-wing crazies,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: so why are we putting it in the hands of
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: the judiciary? But I do think that... At some point,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: there has to be somebody that in some institution that
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: protects our elections, and you'd probably rather have a judicial
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: review and put it in the hands of judges than
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: you would a Republican governor, Republican state legislature, or Republican Congress.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: So like you said, it does raise the level of
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: difficulty on this, so it's probably good. Now, they still
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: don't have 10 Republicans in the Senate on this, so
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: who knows, but I mean, they have nine. They have nine. Yeah,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: we're one short. So we're one short.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Can I also just say that we all know Joe
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Manchin sponsored this bill, which is why it has that
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: just like fine feeling.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: That you talked about.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: But the one thing I realized about Joe Manchin is that,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: you know, when I got a new puppy years ago,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: he was always squirming and then peeing everywhere. where he
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: wasn't supposed to pee, which is a lot like Joe Manchin.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: But then sometimes he would pee in the right place.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: And that is what this bill is, I think.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Got to give him a cookie.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: That is well said. I think we should leave it there. Okay,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: we will be back with more news in a bit.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: But first, it's time for a game that we call Okay, stop.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: You all know how this works. We'll play a video,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I'll call the first stop. After that, it's everyone for themselves.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Feel free to descend on the video like wolves. Ask yourself,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: what would Lovett do? And then dial it back just
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: a few notches. Just to set up this clip a
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: little bit, lawyer Alan Dershowitz, Not a lot of fans.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: He's so hot. America's uncle, who it finally stopped inviting
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: to Thanksgiving, is once again complaining that his friends in
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Martha's Vineyard do not want to hang out with him,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: presumably due to his defense of Donald Trump and the
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: former president's first impeachment trial. Also his defense of Jeffrey Epstein.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Also his defense of Harvey Weinstein. Anyway, in light of
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the news that Dershowitz confirmed the rumor that Larry David
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: called him, quote, disgusting in public, that no one likes
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: him anymore, and that the entire island of Martha's Vineyard
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: has canceled him, our first thought, of course, was let's
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: hear his side of things. Are you all ready? All right,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: let's do it.
• 27:34
  Speaker 11: Somebody on the beach was reading one of my books,
• 27:36
  Speaker 11: and a guy came over to him and said, are
• 27:38
  Speaker 11: you reading a book by Dershowitz? And he said yes,
• 27:41
  Speaker 11: and he punched him in the mouth.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, stop. I'm sorry.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. This story lost me at reading Alan Dershowitz's
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: book on the beach.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: If you are reading Alan Dershowitz's book on the beach,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: you should punch yourself in the face. You should not
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: wait for someone to come do it.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's so categorized as a beach read, though.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: All of his works.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Also, that man reading his book on the beach was
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein.
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he didn't say which beach it was.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Was it, per se, on an island?
• 28:17
  Speaker 11: Oh.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: By the way, Dershowitz is known to frequent Martha's Vineyard's
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: nude beaches.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, Tommy. Marinate on that out there.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: As ever mentioned, he's hot.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be posting it on Twitter.
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: Recently, there was an event in Martha's Vineyard of Jewish
• 28:40
  Speaker 11: Democratic leaders. Who was the most Jewish, well-known Democrat on
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: Martha's Vineyard? Me.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't get invited.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, stop.
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: It's so weird that a group of Democrats did not
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: invite Donald Trump's lawyer to their event.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: My main feeling here is like they have nothing else
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: to put on this channel. And so my question is, Newsmax,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: are you okay? This is really, they're scraping at the
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: barrel if this is what's happening on that channel.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: This is a trap. This is an attempt to get
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: us to debate who is the most Jewish man on
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Martha's Vineyard. And Alan Dershowitz is the pie in the
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: bear trap, or in this case, a kugel, which is
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: a joke that Lovett told me I could say. I
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: did not say the other one. one he told me
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: I could say. Because I know better.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: You think it was a trap. That too was a trap. Alright.
• 29:49
  Speaker 11: Friends have refused to invite me to concerts and events
• 29:52
  Speaker 11: because they say if you're invited no one will show up.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, so.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I had to see Lizzo alone.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: It's just good planning.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: That's all that is.
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: Maybe it's natural politics. Maybe you're just a pompous asshole.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: It's just so funny that it's not that Alan Dershowitz
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: isn't going. It's that he's denying these poor people. They
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: don't get to hear Alan Dershowitz speak anymore. All these
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Martha's Vineyard people, they took a long trip. They went
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: to Martha's Vineyard. They paid for their vacation. They expected
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: to hear Alan Dershowitz, and now nothing. There you go.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: You want beaches, lobster, Dershowitz.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I just picture him arranging his little porcelain doll collection.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: and then giving them speeches.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Okay, roll it.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: Some very prominent politicians, some very prominent people who are
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: part of this cancel culture, and they canceled me because
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: I defended the constitutional right of President Trump, something.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: I'm very proud of having done.
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: I didn't vote for President Trump, but I defended his
• 31:05
  Speaker 11: constitutional right, and I'm canceled as a result.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Also, stop reminding people how shitty you are on television.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: I believe that wealthy white men should never face consequences
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: why I'm here.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: To complain about myself.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: It's so weird. People don't want to hang out with
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: this guy. Like, why?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: He's canceled. No one can listen to him. He has
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: no platform anymore.
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: To be fair, Newsmax is not... That's only like two
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: shades off of canceled.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: That is true. I feel like the host is not sold.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: He doesn't care. I don't think he's sold on this.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Even he's like, what the fuck am I doing here?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: He's tendering his resignation in his mind right now.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: He could be. Anyway, we wish Alan Dershowitz the best.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Best of luck. That's okay, stop. All right, let's get
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: back to the news. This week in deep blue Maryland,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: the winner of the Republican primary for governor was Dan Cox,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's hand-picked candidate who has called Mike Pence a
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: traitor for not overturning the election and arranged insurrection transportation
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: on January 6th. What makes this result notable is that
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Cox prevailed over the more moderate Republican with the help
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: of the Democratic Party, which ran ads to remind people
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: that Cox was endorsed by Trump under the theory that
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: the more extreme candidate would be easier to defeat in November.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Democrats have also employed this strategy to varying degrees in
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: governors' races in Illinois, Arizona, and Pennsylvania, which has set
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: off quite a debate about whether this is a shrewd
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: strategy to elevate the weakest Republican or a risky gambit
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: that could ultimately help put more MAGA maniacs in power.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: All right, everyone, what do you think? Smart or dangerous?
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Who wants to take the first cut? Come on, Dan.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Before anyone says anything, I feel like we should warn
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: the audience that someone may use the term Overton window.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: That's just like a trigger warning for everybody.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead. Use the term.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Thank you for that. I need some time to revise
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: my notes.
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: Well, John, I'm glad you brought this up because I
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: very much want to talk about it. Because I want
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: to talk about why it's so stupid that we're talking
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: about it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes. A debate about the debate. I love it.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: We live at that meta level, my friend.
• 33:35
  Speaker 9: So I think if you are someone who thinks that
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: the prominence of MAGA politicians as Republican nominees is somehow
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: due to Democratic ads... you were too fucking stupid to
• 33:49
  Speaker 9: talk about politics, period.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Like, it's just, it's idiotic.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I'm revising my notes.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, Dan.
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: This is going to be a short segment, people.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Tommy, this is why we had Dan go first.
• 34:04
  Speaker 9: I mean, Doug Mascherano won by 23 points. Do we
• 34:08
  Speaker 9: really think $ 800, 000 of Democratic ads?
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Have you seen Democratic ads?
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: Is why Doug Mascherano won by 23 points?
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: Of course not. Look, I think.
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: I do not love this strategy, not because it bothers
• 34:23
  Speaker 9: me morally. Like, politics isn't beanbag.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: I don't care. Republicans are trying to steal elections.
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: If we want to try to influence the electorate on
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: which candidate we run against, we should do that. You
• 34:33
  Speaker 9: want to run against the candidate who is more beatable.
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: And there's no question that this guy in Maryland is
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: more beatable than the protege of the incredibly popular Republican
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: governor who was reelected by a huge margin four years ago.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: No question about that. The problem with the strategy is twofold.
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: One, there's obviously a risk that you are going to
• 34:54
  Speaker 9: nominate someone who may win, who is more dangerous. But
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: in my view, the real danger to democracy is not
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: one individual lunatic.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: It's Republicans being in control, period.
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: I don't care if you are a moderate, if you
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: are MAGA, if you are going to vote for Mitch
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: McConnell and Kevin McCarthy as leader, you are a danger
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: to democracy, and we have to beat those people. Second,
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: the real risk of the strategy is if you shoot
• 35:19
  Speaker 9: and miss, you make it a lot harder to win
• 35:21
  Speaker 9: in the fall because you have just spent money you
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: don't have a ton of to convince voters that the
• 35:26
  Speaker 9: guy who actually won, the person who actually won is
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: a moderate. And that happened in Colorado. The Democrats spent
• 35:32
  Speaker 9: a ton of money to try to pick their opponent.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: They lost.
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: And now Michael Bennett's going to have a race that
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: is much tougher because we define the other guy as
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: a moderate. The problem for me with this strategy is
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: really that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. We have
• 35:45
  Speaker 9: so much to do. Why are we wasting money on
• 35:47
  Speaker 9: this shit? Why aren't we spending money to expand our electorate,
• 35:51
  Speaker 9: to persuade people? Just do the blocking and tackling first,
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: and then you can try to do it. But it's
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: just the impact of this is so dramatically overstated that
• 36:02
  Speaker 9: I think it is overshadowing the very real threats.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Tommy, do you want some time to revise your notes?
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Look, truthfully, I think that We all think that there's
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: these brilliant strategists behind the curtain pulling strings, and that's
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: not really the truth. I think there's a very good
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: chance that these midterm elections are decided by kind of
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: macro trends and forces. And, you know, as our old
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: boss campaign manager, David Plouffe, used to say, I mean,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: elections are decided by like, you know, 500 votes in
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Florida or whatever. And if you win, you're a genius.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: And if you lose, you're an idiot. And I think
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: the way we will judge this strategy will be entirely
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: dependent on the results. So we don't really know right now.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, Dan.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: It's sort of like, it feels a little too cute
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: by half. Like I'd love to spend a couple million
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: dollars doing long-term organizing in communities where turnout has been
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: low or where we've been losing voters. But yeah, I
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: do think it's sort of, you know, enticing all of
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: us but also if.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: You look at a campaign like herschel walker the gop
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: is already doing our strategy of promoting the weirdest guys
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: so like we don't need to do.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: It well that that's that's sort of where i land
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: on dan's point too which is like by doing this
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: we're gonna get all these stories and and of course
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: all these reporters are gonna write these stories like oh
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: now democrats say they're afraid of of Republicans stealing democracy,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: but there they are promoting the candidates. The strategy's not
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: effective enough to deal with those stories, because like you said,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Republicans are doing this on their own. I also think
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: that not all meddling is created equal and not all
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: the races are the same. I think if you are
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: in deep blue Maryland, where there is just a Republican governor,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: if a moderate Republican becomes the nominee, there's a very
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: good chance that there's another Republican governor of Maryland. If
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: there's an extreme right-wing Republican as the nominee and we
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: have a Democrat running, the Democrat's probably going to win
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: in Maryland. And the same thing is true in Illinois.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: So I really don't worry about it in the states
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: of Illinois and Maryland. In Arizona and Pennsylvania, it's a
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: little trickier. You're playing with fire a little bit more there.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Doug Mastriano could win that race. Carrie Lake could win
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: in Arizona. But when I say not all meddling is
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: the same, too, like, in Arizona, the Democrats have not
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: spent money to boost Carrie Lake. Like, one person in
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the Arizona Democratic Party put out a press release, like,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: saying that Carrie Lake's Republican opponent once contributed to Democrats. Like,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: stupid one quote, that's really not going to do anything anyway.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: If the Democrats put a bunch of money in that
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: race into, like, boosting Carrie Lake and hitting her opponent,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I'd be a little more worried about that.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: If only we were good at influencing voters.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: If a couple million dollars in Democratic ads could have
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: that big of an effect, politics would be a lot
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: different right now.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: That'd be awesome.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: The main thing for.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Me about the strategy is it is just kind of gross,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: you know? It's just kind of gross, like.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: It just gives me, it doesn't make me feel good. Like,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: we should be focusing on the issues that people care about,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: which I know everyone says all the time, but it's true.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: And we should also, like, honestly, we should make our
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: rallies fun. We should be making a Democrat fun. We
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: should take that money and put bouncy houses and pizza
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: at rallies instead of that strategy.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: That's a good idea.
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: You sort of nailed the downside of strategies. It just
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: ends up being this talking point. But that's the point
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: that it's so dumb. And it's a talking point for
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: two reasons. One, political consultants love to tell people how
• 39:34
  Speaker 9: smart they are. That's absolutely loved it. We are so clever.
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: Look at how we did this thing. I mean, I
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: say that as someone who has been in the past
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: and maybe even in the future. Well, maybe not after
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: I just said that.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Political consulting.
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Breaking news, Dan.
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: But the other reason is reporters love to call Democrats
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: out for hypocrisy. So there were a gazillion tweets yesterday
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: from reporters like, Democrats say these people are threats to democracy.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: That's why they, but then they gave them money or
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: they ran ads.
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: It's like, that's not the real threat to democracy, people.
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: You are missing the forest for the trees, right? Like
• 40:06
  Speaker 9: that is, it's just, it's like unnecessary weight that we
• 40:11
  Speaker 9: don't need. but it ultimately in the long, like if
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: we win this election, lose this election, it's not gonna
• 40:15
  Speaker 9: be because of this strategy.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Crooked Media's editor-in-chief, Brian Boitler, had an op-ed in
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: the New York Times about this, and Brian thinks this
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: strategy is very dumb, but he had a really good
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: idea towards the end of the op-ed. He said, what
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Democrats should be doing is spending their time attacking, and
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: you were saying this, Dan, attacking the entire Republican field
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: in all of these races, because they're all threats to democracy,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: you know? And you don't necessarily have to single out
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: one opponent. Anyway, if you want to do something productive
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: and you want to help Democrats win and you want
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: to help defeat Republicans who are a threat to democracy,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: you should go to votesaveamerica.com. And you should sign up
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: for Midterm Madness. And we will give you plenty to do.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: We will help you volunteer. We'll help you organize. You
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: can donate to races. We're not going to have you
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: just donate so we lift up one Republican. We're not
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: going to do that strategy. We're just going to help
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Democrats win.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: We are going to help Liz Cheney win her primary.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: All your money goes to Herschel Walker.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: That is the plug that the team wanted me to do,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: so I've done it. Okay, so before we bring out
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the governor, during this tour, yeah, get excited. We can
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: get excited. He's coming out soon. But before we bring
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: him out, during this tour we've been recognizing local activists
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: for all their inspiring work. Here in Seattle, we wanted
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: to highlight an organization that's working hard to protect the planet.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: We're so lucky to have a group called Seattle 350
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: here tonight. Please welcome their executive director, Nicole Grant.
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: What's up Seattle family? My name is Nicole Grant and
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: I'm the executive director at 350 Seattle, a climate activist organization.
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: You may be wondering, 350.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: That is the amount of carbon that can be in
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: our atmosphere without triggering a climate catastrophe. So guess what
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: it is now, the actual number? That's right, it's 420.
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: And if we were 420 Seattle, we'd be getting more
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: web traffic. But we're not trying to sell out like that.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: All right, let's.
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: Talk about what climate change means in our lives in Seattle.
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: Because it didn't used to be hot here, you know.
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: This heat wave that's going to happen next week, people
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: are going to die in their homes like dogs in
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: a car. Do you remember last year when the heat
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: dome came and it was so hot that the asphalt
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: melted and you couldn't cross a bridge? We got to
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: do something. There's some stuff. There's some stuff we can do.
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: For instance, if your money is in a big bank,
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: your credit card, your checking account, They're basically using your
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: money to fund Arctic drilling and gas pipelines. Put your
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: money in a credit union, and you're funding your neighbors'
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: and coworkers' messy lives. And I think that's a better deal.
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: What's something else you can do? Well, right here in Seattle,
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: we have a parks levy coming up. You could say
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: something to city council about making it so our parks
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: are places we go during a heat wave that have
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: air conditioning, that filter the air from smoke, that have
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: solar panels to keep the power on so we can
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: refrigerate our medicines and charge our cell phones. So make
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: that call. Get down with 350 Seattle. Always be fighting
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: climate change. And maybe donate to us. Maybe bust out
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: your cell phone and donate to us at 350seattle. org Because literally,
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: 20 bucks from you is about the equivalent of what
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: a fossil fuel baron spends on a game of golf.
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: That's like our whole budget for the whole year. So
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: you giving us a little bit of money is like
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: when a fossil fuel boss gives Joe Manchin a lot
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: of money.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Nicole Grant, Seattle 350. Thank you so much. When we
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: come back, your governor, Jay Inslee.
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: Please welcome to the stage your governor and the man
• 45:07
  Speaker 9: with the coolest glasses in politics, Jay Inslee.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: You're very popular here.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I have a very big family.
• 45:31
  Speaker 9: So before we get started, a little bit of history.
• 45:34
  Speaker 9: The very first Pod Save America live show in the
• 45:38
  Speaker 9: history of our podcast was here in Seattle. And our
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: very first guest was Governor Jay Inslee. And we had
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: no idea what we were doing. We did an interview
• 45:52
  Speaker 9: with him. We forgot to let him leave before the
• 45:54
  Speaker 9: Q and a, and he spent 45 minutes on stage
• 45:56
  Speaker 9: answering questions about light rail from all of you. So
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: we are very glad to be back. We're very glad
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: to be in person with the governor again. And these
• 46:10
  Speaker 9: are obviously very serious time. There's a lot happening. We
• 46:13
  Speaker 9: have a, a Congress it's gridlocked. We have a Supreme
• 46:17
  Speaker 9: court that's sending every single policy. back to the states,
• 46:23
  Speaker 9: most notably abortion. This is something that you have been
• 46:26
  Speaker 9: working with the governors in other western states to try
• 46:29
  Speaker 9: to create a sanctuary for people all across the country
• 46:32
  Speaker 9: to come to if they need abortion services. Can you
• 46:36
  Speaker 9: tell us a little bit about what you're doing and
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: how you're preparing for the influx of people here?
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, thank you.
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: You have left out one other apocalyptic issue, though, that
• 46:47
  Speaker 10: the most important person in America today has COVID, and
• 46:51
  Speaker 10: of course I'm referring to John Lovett.
• 46:55
  Speaker 9: I told him not to go to that meeting with
• 46:57
  Speaker 9: Joe Biden, and he did.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to be careful of those presidents. I
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: hope the president's going to be okay.
• 47:03
  Speaker 10: Look, when I think of what makes Washington State particularly
• 47:10
  Speaker 10: a wonderful place to live is that we respect people
• 47:15
  Speaker 10: who may think differently than we do. And those who
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: intend to have government force women to carry pregnancy.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting.
• 47:25
  Speaker 10: The Republicans have, for guns, it's can carry, and for women,
• 47:31
  Speaker 10: it's must carry. That is not acceptable in the state
• 47:35
  Speaker 10: of Washington. And so, but it's not, and so I
• 47:40
  Speaker 10: do believe I do believe we have a duty to
• 47:45
  Speaker 10: take care of our sisters all over the country. And
• 47:49
  Speaker 10: so we are now, we always have been, and we
• 47:52
  Speaker 10: always will be a sanctuary state for any American woman
• 47:55
  Speaker 10: who wants to have this right.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: And they can come to Washington State. And we're going
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: to make sure that's the case. So what we're doing.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: We're doing a variety of things.
• 48:06
  Speaker 10: First off, I have ordered the Washington State Patrol not
• 48:09
  Speaker 10: to cooperate in any law investigation involving this from any
• 48:12
  Speaker 10: other state.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: That's number one.
• 48:16
  Speaker 10: Number two, we'll seek legislation in January making that apply
• 48:21
  Speaker 10: to all law enforcement agencies in the state of Washington.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: We are making sure that our data.
• 48:27
  Speaker 10: Firms that have all this incredibly private data are not
• 48:29
  Speaker 10: gonna share it with other entities. And importantly, We're making
• 48:35
  Speaker 10: sure that the service providers have resources that are necessary
• 48:39
  Speaker 10: to get this job done. So we've now appropriated $ 8
• 48:41
  Speaker 10: million that are available to Planned Parenthood and others to make.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Sure that we welcome people here.
• 48:49
  Speaker 10: But we are exploring other avenues, legal avenues, to make
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: sure that we clarify the law so that women and
• 48:57
  Speaker 10: providers have confidence they can do this without the fear
• 49:01
  Speaker 10: of criminal investigation from other states. And I just want
• 49:03
  Speaker 10: to mention something that I think President Biden can help
• 49:07
  Speaker 10: us on is that, you know, the Food and Drug
• 49:10
  Speaker 10: Administration is the one who decides what's a safe pharmaceutical product.
• 49:16
  Speaker 10: And that is primacy over any other state legally. we
• 49:20
  Speaker 10: have federal priority on that. And the FDA has said
• 49:24
  Speaker 10: this is a safe product, a product that allows women
• 49:28
  Speaker 10: an abortion where appropriate.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: We need to make darn sure that every woman.
• 49:32
  Speaker 10: In America has access through the mail of this pharmaceutical.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: So they don't have to get on an airplane to
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: come to Seattle. And to do that, to do that
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: we need.
• 49:46
  Speaker 10: The administration to explore litigation, to tee that up and
• 49:50
  Speaker 10: make sure that that's clear so that we have confidence
• 49:52
  Speaker 10: to move forward. So we're doing everything we can, extremely important,
• 49:57
  Speaker 10: and this is very close. By the way, we're proud
• 49:59
  Speaker 10: of Washington, first state in the United States that voted
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: for a woman's right of choice in the history.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Of the United States, right here.
• 50:07
  Speaker 9: As you guys are planning for what this looks like,
• 50:10
  Speaker 9: do you have a sense of what the influx would
• 50:11
  Speaker 9: look like? How many people could come here? What do
• 50:16
  Speaker 9: you have to do to have the resources to take
• 50:18
  Speaker 9: care of it?
• 50:19
  Speaker 10: Well, there has been some research by an institute that
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: would suggest a 300% increase in service demands in the
• 50:25
  Speaker 10: state of Washington. But I've got to tell you, whatever
• 50:27
  Speaker 10: it takes, by any means necessary, no matter what the appropriation.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Is, we will make sure that those services are available.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: The demands.
• 50:36
  Speaker 10: The demands have already gone up. By the way, if
• 50:39
  Speaker 10: I can riff just a little bit on this subject, too.
• 50:43
  Speaker 10: This has just started. This assault on the values of
• 50:48
  Speaker 10: this millennium, the values of choice, the values of freedom
• 50:54
  Speaker 10: to marry who we'd like to marry, the access to contraceptives,
• 50:58
  Speaker 10: the Republican attack has just started.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: And here's what I mean by this.
• 51:03
  Speaker 10: Last night in the House of Representatives there was a
• 51:05
  Speaker 10: simple bill that simply would have codified the expectations of
• 51:10
  Speaker 10: the vast majority of our citizens. And that's the right
• 51:13
  Speaker 10: you have access to contraceptive. Every single Republican in the
• 51:17
  Speaker 10: House of Representatives for that simple statement except eight voted
• 51:21
  Speaker 10: against it. They are coming for contraceptive services in this country.
• 51:26
  Speaker 10: And they will do the same thing in Washington State
• 51:30
  Speaker 10: the moment they get a majority. The moment the Republican
• 51:33
  Speaker 10: Party got a majority in my legislature, they would strip
• 51:36
  Speaker 10: women of the right of choice, and it wouldn't surprise
• 51:39
  Speaker 10: me if they came from contraception.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Let's make sure we don't give them that chance. And
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I hope that we will.
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: You have made climate a centerpiece of your governorship. Climate
• 51:54
  Speaker 9: was a centerpiece of your presidential campaign. You're a leading
• 51:57
  Speaker 9: voice on the issue in the Democratic Party. Thanks to
• 52:00
  Speaker 9: one Democratic senator and 50 Republican senators, it appears quite
• 52:04
  Speaker 9: likely that there will be no federal legislative action on
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: climate change this year. And it is possible if the
• 52:10
  Speaker 9: elections do not go our way. It may be years,
• 52:13
  Speaker 9: if not a decade, before we have the opportunity to
• 52:14
  Speaker 9: do something. As someone who has thought about this issue
• 52:17
  Speaker 9: so much, how screwed are we if Congress can't act?
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: More than we should be, okay? Where do we put
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: it on the graph? Listen, I'm going to not answer
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: that question, and I'll tell you why. I think this
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: is an important point.
• 52:35
  Speaker 10: You know I can follow up, right? You got to
• 52:38
  Speaker 10: follow up. No, but a serious question. So Joseph Kennedy said,
• 52:42
  Speaker 10: don't get mad, get even. I think right now we
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: need to not get mad.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: We need to get active.
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: And kind of sitting around, moping around on how tough
• 52:54
  Speaker 10: this is and how life is really unfair and Manchin
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: and the Republicans and blah, blah, blah. We kind of
• 53:01
  Speaker 10: don't have the luxury of getting our chins down in
• 53:03
  Speaker 10: the dirt right now. We've got to turn this anger,
• 53:06
  Speaker 10: this disappointment, this despair into action. And so I'm going
• 53:10
  Speaker 10: to defer answering that question. Obviously, this is a severe
• 53:14
  Speaker 10: blow to not have Congress do what we'd like them
• 53:17
  Speaker 10: to do. There's no question about that and that the
• 53:18
  Speaker 10: president wanted to have action on. Let's not forget, though,
• 53:22
  Speaker 10: that it's 50 Republicans who are involved in this, just
• 53:25
  Speaker 10: not one Democrat, okay? And the good news, look, there's
• 53:31
  Speaker 10: good news, two more Democratic senators from Georgia, Pennsylvania, somebody else,
• 53:37
  Speaker 10: we're back in the saddle, and we passed climate legislation, okay?
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: So get out there and.
• 53:43
  Speaker 10: Get out there and help elect a couple more senators.
• 53:46
  Speaker 10: But look, there's still two things really good news here.
• 53:50
  Speaker 10: Number one, the president has still very considerable executive authority
• 53:54
  Speaker 10: in this. He can move against coal plants by using
• 53:58
  Speaker 10: nitrous oxide and coal ash regulations. He has all kinds
• 54:01
  Speaker 10: of wrenches and screwdrivers available to him from a regulatory standpoint,
• 54:06
  Speaker 10: and not even the Supreme Court, I don't think, can
• 54:09
  Speaker 10: upset that. He can move forward to allow us to
• 54:11
  Speaker 10: electrify our cars. so that California and Washington and 15
• 54:15
  Speaker 10: other states can move to a zero emission vehicles as
• 54:18
  Speaker 10: fast as we can. And he might be able to
• 54:21
  Speaker 10: free up dollars using emergency declaration to be able to
• 54:24
  Speaker 10: help Americans get access so they can afford some of
• 54:27
  Speaker 10: this whiz-bang technology. So he still has a lot of
• 54:31
  Speaker 10: things we can do at the executive branch. And my
• 54:33
  Speaker 10: second thing and the most important, I don't care who's
• 54:37
  Speaker 10: in the US Congress. I don't care who's in the
• 54:40
  Speaker 10: White House. Washington, D.C. cannot stop Washington State from moving
• 54:45
  Speaker 10: forward on a clean energy economy.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: They cannot stop us, okay? So we're, you know.
• 54:53
  Speaker 9: I'm going to come back to my question you didn't answer,
• 54:56
  Speaker 9: but I will reframe it.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: By the way, you asked how screwed we are? Really? Well,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: there you go.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: Perfect.
• 55:04
  Speaker 9: In terms of the executive action, there's reporting that the
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: President Biden was planning on declaring a climate emergency. He
• 55:09
  Speaker 9: has held off on that. How important is declaring an
• 55:12
  Speaker 9: emergency and how much confidence do you have that he
• 55:14
  Speaker 9: is going to use the vast majority of the tools
• 55:17
  Speaker 9: you just mentioned to attack this through executive action?
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Well, important question, but I want to start with, I believe, actually.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: You're doing this again?
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I'll be back to you. It is important, but I.
• 55:30
  Speaker 10: Actually believe 70 or 80% of what we can accomplish
• 55:35
  Speaker 10: through executive action does not require an emergency declaration. It
• 55:39
  Speaker 10: is available today through his existing clean air authority, his
• 55:43
  Speaker 10: existing ability to reduce nitrous oxide, his existing authority to
• 55:48
  Speaker 10: help move forward on the electrification of our transportation. So
• 55:53
  Speaker 10: pre-existing this situation can't be challenged. Maybe 15% or 20%
• 55:57
  Speaker 10: on top of that, the cherry on the sundae, would
• 56:01
  Speaker 10: be freeing up some money now in FEMA that could
• 56:04
  Speaker 10: be used for people to buy electric cars and charging
• 56:07
  Speaker 10: stations and the like, but that's actually a smaller part
• 56:10
  Speaker 10: of it. So I hope he does it because everything helps.
• 56:14
  Speaker 10: But one way or another, we're counting on him. I
• 56:17
  Speaker 10: think he's going to come through and we need his help.
• 56:21
  Speaker 9: So this was my follow-up to the question you kind
• 56:23
  Speaker 9: of sort of answered, but I want to talk to
• 56:26
  Speaker 9: you about what states can do, right? You have worked
• 56:29
  Speaker 9: with 23 other states to form the United States Climate Alliance.
• 56:32
  Speaker 9: that has achieved incredible results. Tell me about that partnership,
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: what you guys have done, and what it looks like
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: in the future, and how impactful can it.
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: Be in this world of varying degrees of screwedness?
• 56:43
  Speaker 10: Coming back to my favorite word, it can be really effective,
• 56:46
  Speaker 10: and it is being really effective. Look, I started after
• 56:50
  Speaker 10: Trump did his, Malphine is trying to cut us out
• 56:53
  Speaker 10: of the Paris Agreement, Governor Brown and I, we started
• 56:58
  Speaker 10: the US Climate Alliance. It today has 24 states, And
• 57:02
  Speaker 10: this group represents 60% of the entire United States economy.
• 57:07
  Speaker 10: That is a powerful entity. If we were our own country,
• 57:11
  Speaker 10: I think we'd be the eighth largest nation in the world.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: So it's a big group doing big things.
• 57:16
  Speaker 10: And that, in those states, every one of those states
• 57:23
  Speaker 10: is taking something that fits their economy to build a
• 57:27
  Speaker 10: clean energy economy. And most of these are Democratic, obviously.
• 57:32
  Speaker 10: I think there's two Republicans, I think, governors who are
• 57:35
  Speaker 10: part of this. But every single one of them have
• 57:37
  Speaker 10: done something.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Productive.
• 57:40
  Speaker 10: And so this is a powerful entity, and it does
• 57:44
  Speaker 10: give us hope because literally the federal government can't stop
• 57:47
  Speaker 10: me from passing the best cap and invest program in
• 57:52
  Speaker 10: the United States.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: They couldn't stop us.
• 57:54
  Speaker 10: They couldn't stop us from passing a bill that guarantees
• 57:58
  Speaker 10: zero fossil fuel based electrical grid by 2050. They couldn't
• 58:03
  Speaker 10: stop us from providing a low carbon fuel standard, which
• 58:05
  Speaker 10: is gonna give our people lower carbon fuels. They couldn't
• 58:09
  Speaker 10: stop us from adopting the light rail that we've got,
• 58:13
  Speaker 10: which now prevents.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: We've come a long way on that light rail in
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: five years, yes.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: So the point is, they couldn't stop us on any
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: of these things.
• 58:25
  Speaker 10: So the fact that this is a republic and that
• 58:28
  Speaker 10: we still have states, in this case, the framers had
• 58:31
  Speaker 10: a good idea. Because it allows people that have half
• 58:33
  Speaker 10: a brain on climate change who understand that when you
• 58:36
  Speaker 10: fight climate change, you make jobs. I was just at
• 58:40
  Speaker 10: an event with Governor Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, who.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Is in Seattle tonight.
• 58:50
  Speaker 10: She brought a giant battery manufacturing plant to Michigan to
• 58:57
  Speaker 10: put in electric cars. And the auto industry now understands
• 59:01
  Speaker 10: that the future of transportation is in electricity. And she
• 59:04
  Speaker 10: is demonstrating in an industrial state that obviously has had
• 59:09
  Speaker 10: real hard economic times because of the collapse of steel
• 59:12
  Speaker 10: and automobiles, she's demonstrating something the Republicans don't understand. This
• 59:18
  Speaker 10: is the greatest economic opportunity since the steam engine, and
• 59:22
  Speaker 10: she's demonstrating that.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: And we're demonstrating it right here.
• 59:29
  Speaker 10: And before I leave, let's make clear, who has the
• 59:31
  Speaker 10: best climate change suite of policies in the United States?
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: The state of Washington. I do want to make that clear.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: There's always sort.
• 59:42
  Speaker 9: Of an ongoing debate in the Democratic Party and the
• 59:46
  Speaker 9: climate movement about how to talk about climate in the
• 59:48
  Speaker 9: most effective way. Sometimes it is focused on the economic impact.
• 59:52
  Speaker 9: Sometimes it's scare the living shit out of people, apocalyptic, nihilism.
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: You know, optimism.
• 59:58
  Speaker 9: How do you think we should be telling this story,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 9: given everything that's happening around the world in terms of
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 9: weather events, what's happening in the United States, about the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 9: best way to explain to people the challenges and opportunity
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 9: of climate change?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 10: You know, if I had a magic wand or crystal
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 10: ball to tell the exact, I've been at this business
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 10: for 20 years and I still don't have the magic
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 10: about this. I think that you talk to people about
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 10: where they live, what is important to them. First off,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 10: if you're talking to a person about this, you kind
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 10: of have to know what's important to them, right? You know,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 10: most people, their relationship with their children and their grandchildren
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 10: is important to them. They feel some moral obligation to.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: The next generations.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 10: It is a strong thing that binds most people in
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 10: their family relationships. So if I was going to pick
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 10: one thing that is most effective is to ask people
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 10: how they feel about their children and their grandchildren and
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 10: their nieces and their nephews and their neighbors' kids. How
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 10: do you feel about them? what kind of world do
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 10: you want them to live in? What's your vision that
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 10: you would.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Like to see?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 10: And try to get them to think about that. I
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 10: think that's actually the most powerful thing you can do. Now,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 10: on occasion, you'll work for people that, you know, that
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 10: doesn't really work. But the second most effective is have
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 10: a vision of economic growth. What do you think that's
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 10: going to be? You know you'd like a better job.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 10: You'd like more income. You'd like your neighbors to be,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 10: you know, and not live in homelessness, how are we
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 10: going to do that? And make the economic argument. I
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 10: think those are the two things that are most effective.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 10: And then the visual evidence of this is so compelling
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 10: right now. If you go, I just looked at CNN
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 10: or something tonight, looking at the fires in France and Spain,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 10: the visual evidence is extremely important in convincing people what's
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: really going on. So whenever you can use a visual evidence,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 10: that's a lot better than a half-hour speech. And those
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 10: three things should work.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: By the way, this is working.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 10: I know this is extremely frustrating to us all, but
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 10: the vast majority of Americans believe climate change is happening
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 10: and believe we should do something about it. The polling
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 10: demonstrates that. The problem is that we have a political
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 10: system that is frankly broken, that does not answer to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 10: the needs of the American people.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: And that political system....
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 10: That toxic stew that is our current system, which is
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 10: one part gerrymandering, one part voter suppression, one part electoral college,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 10: one part the filibuster, and one part the Senate that
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 10: just protects rural large states, has stopped the public sentiment
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 10: from being effectuated.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: So you gotta understand.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 10: I do think we have to understand the American people
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 10: are with us on this. We just need to break
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 10: through this stranglehold of the oil and gas industry over
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 10: the political infrastructure of the United States. And that gives
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 10: me hope that we're gonna get this job done.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 9: I think it's a really important point that addressing climate change, healthcare,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 9: minimum wage, et cetera, is all tied to political reform
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 9: at the end of the day.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: Okay, we got some really tough questions here at the
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: end for you.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: How many do I have to answer?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you're not shackled into that seat. So
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: you're in your third term now.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 9: You are a basketball guy. You played basketball with President
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: Obama back in the day, if I remember correctly. I
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 9: know you care a lot about the sport. Will you
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 9: consider your time as governor successful if there is not
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 9: a replacement for the Seattle Supersonics by the time you leave?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying, Kevin Durant's looking for a new team.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 10: Look, I think we need to throw that question to
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 10: the people. And I got a great ovation when I
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 10: walked in. That ought to be worth something, okay? So
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 10: that ought to be something. Hey, listen, good news, folks.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 10: I am convinced the NBA wants to come to Seattle.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: I'm very convinced of this.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: And all we've got to do is to get one
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: more door to open.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 10: If that door opens, I'm very convinced Seattle There is
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 10: every reason to believe that we're gonna get the Seattle
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 10: SuperHonics back to Seattle. We got the best arena, which
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 10: is the first net-zero arena in world history.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Right here, okay?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 10: We got rabid fans, and we got a governor who's
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 10: a Hoopaholic.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: So we'll be in good shape.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: Perfect. All right, last question before we let you go.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna try to get you to weigh in on
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 9: an incredibly hot button, controversial issue here in the state
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: of Washington. This week, the State Liquor Control Board is
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 9: allowing axe-throwing businesses to begin serving alcohol. What is your
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 9: message to those people who think that may be a
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 9: bad idea?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 10: Well, I'll just tell you where I come from on
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 10: this issue, which will explain my position. You know, We
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 10: have a lot of virtues in Washington. We're very proud
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 10: of our state, as I've indicated. Best economy in the
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 10: United States. Been listed several years as the best place
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 10: to live, best place to be a business, and best
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 10: place to work in the United States. So we're very proud.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 10: We're very proud of our state. But the thing we're
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 10: proudest about is how humble we are.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: I.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 10: Don't want to contravene that trait, but I have to
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 10: tell you, in the 2020... Democratic Governors Association meeting in
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 10: Las Vegas, we had an axe-throwing contest.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: Was there booze involved?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 10: There was at a local place where there was beer.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 10: We threw these small axes, we threw big axes, we
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 10: threw spears too, right?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: And so I have to say.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 10: The honest truth, which is Washington State's governor won the championship.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Of the DGIFL. And so, so I'm a little bit
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: of a risk taker, so I'm with the board here.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Throw the ax.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: Washington State's new motto, live free and die. Please give
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: it up for Governor Inslee. Thank you so much, Governor.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: When we come back, we'll play a game.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: You guys ready to play a game?
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: And away we go.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Governors.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: In America, they run the gamut. Some, like Governor Inslee,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: believe that climate change is real and that glasses make
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: you look hot. Others believe that math textbooks have gotten
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: too gay and American history is like a buffet at
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: the Sizzler. Carefully crafted not to offend middle-aged white people.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: So tonight, it's time for a game we call Governors.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: To the extreme, I rock your state like a vandal,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: lie to the press, fabricate, make a scandal. Thank you
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: for being late millennials. Consider this a public service. We're
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: educating you about the absolute mayhem that is happening in
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: the highest office of the land in many of these
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: United States because some of these governors are very bad
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: and some of the gubernatorial candidates, they are a lot worse.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: So I'm going to MC, which means we need an
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: audience member from the crowd. Could you please raise your hand?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: I need a teammate.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: If you want to volunteer, but also you have signed
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: up for Vote Save America's Midterm Madness. Olivia's going to pick.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: We are trusting you to be honest. The integrity of this.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: We will verify.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: We will know if you're lying.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: The integrity of this very low stakes game is in
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: your hands.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: Come on up.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: We won't bite.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: It's all in good fun.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: What's your name? Michael. We got Michael. Michael, great to
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: meet you.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: All right. All right, Michael.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: Michael, you are on a team with Jon Favreau. You'll
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: be playing against Nagin and Dan.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: Are we going to be axe throwing or?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: I'm not ruling it out.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: You just got to wait and see.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Hey, Michael. Hey. Nice to meet you.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Nice to meet you.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: Teammate.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: All right, let's do this.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: So I'm going to ask these to both teams, unless
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: otherwise directed.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Just shout at me. It's all going to be fine. Okay.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: During a Facebook live stream two hours after the Highland
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: Park shooting, Republican gubernatorial candidate Darren Bailey advised Illinois residents
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: to do what? This is multiple choice. A, mark themselves
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: safe on Facebook. B, put politics aside and come together. C,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: move on. D, peep my SoundCloud.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Who's this?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 7: Oh.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: Pete.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: Go, go, go, go.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 7: Pete, my SoundCloud.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: I was going to say B. B, yeah, me too.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: You were all wrong.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: He advised them to move on.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: The exact quote was.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: Worse than I thought.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: The exact quote was, move on and celebrate the independence
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: of this nation because nothing is more American than stifling
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: your grief and fear and carrying on like nothing happened.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: I meant that sarcastically, but it didn't play that way.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: Speaking of Darren Bailey, at a 2019 fundraising event, Bailey
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: put the AR in NRA by raffling off what deadly
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: prize to the highest bidder?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: This is open.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: What could it be?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: What could it be?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: What could it be?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: Is it an AR-15?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, AR-15?
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, AR-15.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: You are all right.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: It was a Smith & Wesson AR-15. It is truly
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: insane that in America you can raffle off lunch with
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: the church deacon and a fucking assault rifle.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: What are we doing? Wow.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: After writing in Facebook posts that nothing can compare to
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: the atrocity of the Holocaust, Pennsylvania Republican Doug Mastriano shot
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: his mouth off with an almost uncontrollably bad Facebook meme
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: comparing the Holocaust to what?
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: Climate change?
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: The meme is still up.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: He really stuck to his guns on this one.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: January 6th?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: Gun control. Let's see the meme, which is still on
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: the internet.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: There we go. Oh, no.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: In fact, despite Doug's claims on Facebook, he compares a
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: lot of things to the Holocaust all the time.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: It's his kink. It's his hobby.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: Which of the following topics has Mastriano not compared to
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: the Holocaust, Nazis, or World War II era Germany? This
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: is multiple choice. A, abortion. B, election fraud. C, cancel culture. D, COVID-19.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: Vaccine mandates.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: Question for the host. Is none of the above an option?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: Trick question, Dan. You nailed it.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: I knew it. All of the above. Fuck. All of
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: the above.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: In a tweet last month, Michigan gubernatorial candidate Tutor Dixon,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: that's a real name, declared, when I am governor, schools
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: will answer to local parents, not who.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: This is multiple choice.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: Did the tweet say, not ISIS caravan drivers?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: That. A. B.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: Trans supremacists. C. Obama Biden woke judges. D. Scientists and experts.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: Trans supremacists. D.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: The answer is B. The full quote was actually progressive
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: activist drag queens and trans supremacists.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: A word we're pretty sure she made up, but we
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: declined to check, I think, for obvious reasons.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: Can I just make one point?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 9: That this is not the Republican gubernatorial candidate who got
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 9: arrested in his home by the FBI for being at
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 9: the Capitol on January 6th, correct?
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: It's another one.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: I was not ready to answer questions.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: There are two.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: Look, we accept D as well, because frankly, it was implied.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: Another Michigan gubernatorial hopeful, Ryan Kelly, once told attendees at
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: a campaign event in reference to voting machines, quote, if
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: you see something happening that you don't like with the machines,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: do what special trick?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: This is open. Fire away. Shout it out. Wait, sorry.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: If you see something happening that you don't like with
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: the machines, the voting machines, what do you do?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: Say something.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: Say something.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Pee on it.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: Pee on it.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: Like a jellyfish thing.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: Grab a gun.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: Can I try again?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 10: Uh-huh.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: Unplug it and plug.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: It back in.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Unplug it from the wall to take control of the narrative, Dan.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: Little known he used to work at the Apple Genius Bar.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: It's like you predicted the future. Thank God Kelly did
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: not know about the Genius Bar. Speaking of absolute psychopaths
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: running for Michigan governor, another candidate, Kevin Rinke, is being
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  Speaker 4: sued by four former employees alleging sexual and racist harassment.
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  Speaker 4: According to the lawsuit, Rinke allegedly told one of his
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: female employees that women should not be allowed to do what?
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  Speaker 4: This is multiple choice. A, wear tight pants. B, drive
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  Speaker 4: cars while pregnant. C, work in public. D, sing the
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  Speaker 4: national anthem at baseball games because quote, it gets everyone
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  Speaker 4: too hot and bothered and then there's still that whole
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  Speaker 4: ball game.
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  Speaker 2: To get through. I'm gonna do wear tight pants.
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  Speaker 1: John says A.
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  Speaker 3: Was comfortably exist at one of them?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: Again, it was implied, but no.
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  Speaker 2: The answer was C.
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  Speaker 4: They should not be allowed to work in public, adding
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  Speaker 4: that they are ignorant and stupid.
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  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: Just calling half the electorate stupid. We've got to make
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  Speaker 4: sure these people don't win. It's that rinky political magic.
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  Speaker 4: These candidates are not good, guys. And yet there's more.
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  Speaker 4: Another Republican running for governor, Garrett Soldano... grasping desperately for
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: a tiny bit of relevance, joked that his pronouns are
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: what two Republican buzzwords? This is multiple choice. A, MAGA Brandon. B,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: Hunter Biden. C, socialism woke. D, conservative patriot.
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  Speaker 2: Hunter Biden. Michael wants to go with Hunter Biden.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Go, go, go, go.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to say conservative patriarch. D, his pronouns
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: are conservative patriarch. He's like a 22-year-old comedian at his
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: first and final open mic night.
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  Speaker 5: Terrible joke.
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  Speaker 9: This ad is on the queue for Political Actress React,
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  Speaker 9: so I've seen this.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, good, okay.
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  Speaker 5: It's a real winner, let me tell you.
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  Speaker 6: Fancy.
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  Speaker 2: I would have also accepted Schumer Groomer.
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  Speaker 9: Right?
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  Speaker 2: That works. Which of these quotes, oof, these are tough.
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  Speaker 2: Which of these quotes is.
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  Speaker 4: Not an actual thing Maine's Republican Governor Paul LePage said
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: out loud in public? A, bring the guillotine back. We
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  Speaker 4: could have public executions. B, I want to find the
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: Press Herald building and blow it up. C, what I
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: am trying to say is the Holocaust was a horrific
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: crime against humanity. Maybe the IRS is not quite as
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: bad yet, dot, dot, dot. D, let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 4: Black people come up the highway and they kill Mainers.
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  Speaker 4: Jesus fucking Christ, these people.
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  Speaker 2: Your answers. I feel like he said all of those.
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  Speaker 6: All of the above. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Definitely.
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  Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: If these people were not allowed to make Holocaust comparisons,
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  Speaker 4: they would literally never speak.
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  Speaker 2: That one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Last October, Arizona governor, candidate for governor, Carrie Lake, tweeted,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: the nation needs more of what? Social media scourge.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: A hint.
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  Speaker 4: It's something that Lovett has been receiving all week. After
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: sharing his thoughts about the LA mask mandate, and then
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: you know what happens next, Kerry Lake said that we
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: needed this to toughen Americans up.
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  Speaker 2: This is an open question.
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  Speaker 5: Social media scourge.
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  Speaker 9: Is there anyone on this stage who hosts a podcast
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 9: about the internet?
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  Speaker 2: Are you saying we have an expert? Oh, troll? Like trolls?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Just trolls.
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  Speaker 4: Do you have an answer?
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  Speaker 2: Your answer is refer to John.
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  Speaker 7: Ratios?
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  Speaker 1: Ratios?
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  Speaker 4: Mean tweets added, like, the left and the government want
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: us weak.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: The weaker we are, the easier we are to control. Because,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: of course, nothing makes you mentally stronger like comments on
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: your Instagram like, yo, you're fucking ugly.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: We all know how that works. Your mean tweets.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: Great ideas all around. Republican Dan Cox, who is now
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: the nominee for Maryland governor, opposed a bill in the
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: Maryland legislature last April.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking A.
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  Speaker 4: Comparing it to, you guessed it, The Holocaust. That should
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: never be a call and response.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: Said Cox, one of the things that was interesting and
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: very sad in the Nuremberg trials was the fact that
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: medical professionals interfered with parental rights. This is like 10
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: times more Holocaust content that I'm comfortable with. What law
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: was Cox opposing? These are multiple choice. A, A law
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: allowing teens 15 and up to get birth control without
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: their parents' permission. B, a law that permits minors to
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: get vaccinations without sign-off by a guardian. C, a law
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: confirming teens 16 and over have the right to confidentiality
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: with a medical professional. D, a law allowing kids 12
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: and up to consent to their own mental health care.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 6: Vaccine.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: To consent.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: To get a vaccine.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: What was it?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: Parental consent for.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: Contraception? Contraception.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 6: Sure, that one.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: The answer was D. A law to allow kids 12
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: and up to consent to their own mental health care,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: which they are going to need. if these monsters.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 9: They're always, always, always even worse than we think.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: With their fucking hostile tweets and their crazy Holocaust references
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: come to power. That's it for our game.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: That was much darker than expected. Those people should not
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: be in office.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, back to you, John.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: I feel like I need a shower after that game.
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  Speaker 12: Let's hear it again for Jay Inslee, a great governor.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 12: Thank you, Jay Inslee. Thank you, Nagin Farsad. Thank you, Michael.
• 1:19:18
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