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Ken interviews Matt Rooney, a conservative activist, attorney, and founder of SaveNewJersey.com. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: This is the Mark Simone Show on seven to ten
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  Speaker 1: WOI from Mark Today, Here's Ken Rosatto. Good to be
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  Speaker 1: with you on a Friday, on Memorial Day weekend, Friday
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  Speaker 1: and Mark having a nice long weekend, so it is
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  Speaker 1: good to be here to fill in. Yesterday, the great
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  Speaker 1: Jim Kerr was in the very seat that I am
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  Speaker 1: great icon he isn't broadcasting. It was such a great thing.
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  Speaker 1: I literally had goosebumps listening to his voice, and of
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  Speaker 1: course I always get goosebumps listening to the great Mark Simone.
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  Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite broadcasters ever. So but great
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  Speaker 1: to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Hey.
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  Speaker 1: Our next guest is an attorney the founder of Save
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey, a conservative political news and media website focused
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  Speaker 1: on New Jersey and national politics. We say, good morning
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  Speaker 1: and welcome to Matthew Roney. Good to have you on, Matt.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me back, my friend.
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  Speaker 1: You bet, I know you do it. You do a
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  Speaker 1: radio show down in Philly too, right, I do.
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  Speaker 3: I'm on twelve ten WPHT. I've got a Tuesday gig.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a podcast that's on the weekend. When you
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  Speaker 3: like this stuff. It's kind of in your system. It's
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  Speaker 3: a disease that you'll never kick, never defeat. There is
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  Speaker 3: no cure because we can have a conversation on the radio.
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  Speaker 2: Right. That's what I like about it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it, and I love you know we we
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  Speaker 1: I was on Channel seven for twenty years and and
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  Speaker 1: as much as I love doing TV news, there is
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  Speaker 1: something about the intimacy of radio that just can't be surpassed.
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  Speaker 1: It is awesome. So I I read about I read
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  Speaker 1: your whole bio, of course, and I said, this guy
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  Speaker 1: is going to be perfect to talk about this topic.
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  Speaker 1: I knew it. President Trump pounced when climate modelers writing
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  Speaker 1: in a peer reviewed outlet quietly revised their doom and
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  Speaker 1: gloom prediction for the planet's climate. They were off by
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  Speaker 1: some four degrees celsius. And so all the doom and
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  Speaker 1: gloom that the the oceans would rise here let me,
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  Speaker 1: let me become rush Limba for a second lot. The
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  Speaker 1: oceans will rise, the rivers will flood. The late great
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  Speaker 1: Russian Limba channel him here at w He was on
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  Speaker 1: this station, and the idea that the world was coming
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  Speaker 1: to an end yesterday is false. As it turns out,
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  Speaker 1: but they did not pick that up on mainstream media.
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  Speaker 1: How is that even possible, Matt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, go figure right, Well, if Rush was here, what
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  Speaker 2: would he say. It doesn't fit their narrative. It's all
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  Speaker 2: about the narrative. As conservatives, libertarians, wherever you fall in
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  Speaker 2: this right of center coalition, one of the things that
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  Speaker 2: unites this is we believe in God, we believe in
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  Speaker 2: the Constitution. We think there are higher things out there
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  Speaker 2: beyond our own narrow self purpose. Not so for the left.
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  Speaker 2: They believe in leftism. It's part of the reason why
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  Speaker 2: you end up with so many consequences because there's nothing
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  Speaker 2: else that ground them. And so the problem when ideology
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  Speaker 2: becomes religion is there's no way just suade someone when
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  Speaker 2: they're wrong. I mean, I'm Catholics, so you're not going
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  Speaker 2: to convince me that the Immaculate Conception isn't real. It's
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  Speaker 2: an article of faith. Right. What happens when when your
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  Speaker 2: politics becomes an article of faith, and that's what's happened
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  Speaker 2: with climate politics. They believe that mother Gaia is being
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  Speaker 2: destroyed by industry. It's on its last leg. And now
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  Speaker 2: no amount of information you give them to the contrary
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  Speaker 2: will ever change their minds and rather than do what
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  Speaker 2: a discriminating human being is supposed to do, use the
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  Speaker 2: brain God gave you to evaluate new evidence and say hey,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I was off on this point. They're just going
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  Speaker 2: to ignore it. It's it's sociopathic. Yes, it retards our
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  Speaker 2: national ability to have a discussion on this subject. But goodness, gracious,
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  Speaker 2: you know it's not surprising to you or I is it.
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  Speaker 1: Matt. First of all, I was a Catholic priest, so
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  Speaker 1: it's nice to hear we have a good Catholic boy
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  Speaker 1: on God bless you, and and still very religious years there. God,
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  Speaker 1: I'm still still very much a Catholic, even though I'm
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  Speaker 1: not functioning as a priest right now. But I'm with you,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you nailed it when you pointed that out.
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  Speaker 1: And Limba you used to talk about that Russia Limbaugh
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  Speaker 1: all the time as well, and that yes, when you
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  Speaker 1: don't have God in your life, whether it be just
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  Speaker 1: believing in spiritually or believing firmly within the structure of
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  Speaker 1: organized religion, when you don't have God in your life
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  Speaker 1: as the center, then all of a sudden, something else
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  Speaker 1: becomes that, whether it be abortion or environment. And if
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  Speaker 1: somebody tries to talk to you against that topic, suddenly
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  Speaker 1: they are persona non grata, hated. And that's the reason why,
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  Speaker 1: in fact, we'll even talk about another person on the radio.
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  Speaker 1: Mister Bongino used to say that what Republicans think, Democrats
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  Speaker 1: are good people with bad ideas, but Democrats think Republicans
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  Speaker 1: are bad people. And it comes down to the religious
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  Speaker 1: aspect of it. Right, we believe we have a higher
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  Speaker 1: power to whom we must answer, whereas those on the
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  Speaker 1: far left don't buy that. They believe that they are
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  Speaker 1: the highest power. For the most part, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be too blanketing, but then you have that problem.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they don't even bother wanting to sit down
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  Speaker 1: and talk to the right. Are you there, Matt? Did
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  Speaker 1: we lose Matt? Maybe I talked too much and Matt said,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm tired of this guy. Hung up.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see if we get Matt back. Oh we got you.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think I think you have me. I
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  Speaker 2: think the deep State was trying to accept their signals
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  Speaker 2: as is prone. As is prone to happen. We all
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  Speaker 2: we all know. But look, no, you you nailed it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's why this is a This is a
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  Speaker 2: horse that I've been beating for a long time, and
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  Speaker 2: it's part of the reason why it's so easy for
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  Speaker 2: leftist to say that I'm not going to talk to
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  Speaker 2: a family member or friend anymore. If you look at
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  Speaker 2: the studies that have seen in recent years, it's so
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  Speaker 2: much easier for them to shun someone, to remove them
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  Speaker 2: from their social or family circle, not by somebody's thanksgiving
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  Speaker 2: because they disagree on abortion or even something you know
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more banw like you know, whether or
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  Speaker 2: not we should be in a certain conflict. You only
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  Speaker 2: get to that point when your priorities are hopelessly messed
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  Speaker 2: up when you create a secular religion for yourself. And
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  Speaker 2: that's what climate politics is. It's a secular religion. It's
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  Speaker 2: arrogant to think that a human driving their suv can
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  Speaker 2: do more damage to this very durable, billions of year
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  Speaker 2: old planet than anything that could happen in the natural environment. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm glad that we've been proven correct, but
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  Speaker 2: how much is it really worth unless we can penetrate
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  Speaker 2: their skulls.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's part of the problem with the left is
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  Speaker 1: once they believe something like you said, it's becomes their faith.
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  Speaker 1: It becomes their religion, and you can't even ask to
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  Speaker 1: talk to them. In fact, I've had friends on the
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  Speaker 1: far left and I've said, I would like you to
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  Speaker 1: dissuade me. I will sit there and be quiet, and
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  Speaker 1: you get they don't want to because the fact that
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  Speaker 1: you approach them not believing in advance means there's something
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  Speaker 1: wrong with you, and they don't want to waste their time. Truthfully,
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  Speaker 1: it's because they don't have an argument, but they don't
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  Speaker 1: want to waste their time because they don't feel you're
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  Speaker 1: worthy of it. That's part of the problem. So I think,
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  Speaker 1: as a person to the right, and I'm a libertarian conservative,
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  Speaker 1: as a person to the right, I welcome the discussion.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean fight. I'm not going to call you names.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be disrespectful. If there's something I
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  Speaker 1: can learn from you. And I've learned a lot from
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  Speaker 1: many of my liberal friends. Not much i'd like to
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  Speaker 1: call it'll be proud of, but nonetheless I've learned a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things. And I think you know, when I
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  Speaker 1: was in high school, we learned and debate that you
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  Speaker 1: have to be able to debate from your opponent's side
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  Speaker 1: better than from your own if you want to be
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  Speaker 1: a champion debater, and so you need to speak to
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  Speaker 1: the opposite side in order to learn what the opposite
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  Speaker 1: side is talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm an attorney, that's my day job. I hope
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  Speaker 2: no one in your audience holds it against me, because
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  Speaker 2: we're not all vile. Many of us are, but not everyone.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean that's the foundation of life profession. You
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  Speaker 2: advocate zealously for your client, your position. You're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: lie or doing any unethical but you're going to try
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  Speaker 2: to show them in the best possible life. But you
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  Speaker 2: know what, after the court has done for the day,
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  Speaker 2: you go to that bar association event and you break bread.
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  Speaker 2: You don't take it personally. What you're doing is you're
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  Speaker 2: performing an important function that is one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that keeps our system glued together. So it's one of
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  Speaker 2: the many reasons why my head explodes every time a
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  Speaker 2: left that suggests that it is Trump's conservatives, Republicans whoever,
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  Speaker 2: that are threatening our fundamental institutions. Nothing is more important
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  Speaker 2: in a civil society than what you just articulated. The
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  Speaker 2: ability to disagree without trying to maim or hurt each other,
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  Speaker 2: or cancel each other, or whatever you want to put it.
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  Speaker 2: But the left is no longer there. It's something at
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  Speaker 2: the risk of being a little hyperbolic, we haven't been
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  Speaker 2: here in this country since the eighteen fifties, and we shouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: I think understate the risk. And it's one of the
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  Speaker 2: reasons bringing this full circle, why I continue to think
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  Speaker 2: that talk radio is so important. If we want America
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  Speaker 2: to figure out how to have a conversation again, we
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  Speaker 2: have to show them how.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is true. Unfortunately, many to the left, even
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  Speaker 1: when there were left leaning talk radio networks, remember Pacifica
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  Speaker 1: and what people, even the left doesn't engage in it
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  Speaker 1: because they feel they have to formulate the thought process,
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  Speaker 1: formulate their argument that they don't want to. They don't bother.
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  Speaker 1: They just feel that automatically you should be born believing
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  Speaker 1: this and they want to move on. And it's just very,
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  Speaker 1: very sad when you see people who have such a
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  Speaker 1: little value for things like human life, and when you
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  Speaker 1: have a killing of a CEO like Brian Thompson, and
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  Speaker 1: you have young people who think, well, that's justifiable. And
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  Speaker 1: when you look at the breakdown of the percentage of
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  Speaker 1: people on the left who think that murder is justifiable
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  Speaker 1: in at least certain circumstances, versus people from the right.
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  Speaker 1: It's literally antithetical. The two sides are opposite. It's so
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  Speaker 1: unreal as a person to the right to see that
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  Speaker 1: that percentage of people on the left think that in
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  Speaker 1: certain circumstances death would be acceptable. Where did how did
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  Speaker 1: we get here? Is it just that we've surrendered to
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  Speaker 1: the communists?
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  Speaker 2: Our educational system, that's a big part of it, right,
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  Speaker 2: And it's not just the education system, you know, even
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  Speaker 2: though you are talking to you in your Jersey and
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  Speaker 2: where one of the states where the left grip on
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  Speaker 2: young minds is the most concerning. But it's the entertainment culture.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's it's the boardroom, the corporate boarde room, the
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  Speaker 2: companies that advertise to your children and try to convince
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  Speaker 2: them which products they should like, which products they shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: on a daily basis. Conservatives made a decision a long
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  Speaker 2: time ago to go into non influential professions, and that's
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  Speaker 2: that was an unfortunate choice. And I think that you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you're a conservative leader out there and you're looking
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  Speaker 2: for ways to impact our country. Very long term, maybe
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  Speaker 2: consider ways to try to incentivize young right thinking men
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  Speaker 2: and women to get involved in the education system, to
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  Speaker 2: get involved in creating their own independent entertainment spheres. It's
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  Speaker 2: never been more possible with AI and the Internet and
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  Speaker 2: some of the other tools you have at your disposal.
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  Speaker 2: The good news is that now they don't have a
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  Speaker 2: vice grip on information anymore. We can thank Elon Musk
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  Speaker 2: for that, we can thank Rush Limbaugh for that. But
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  Speaker 2: we still have a long way to go in this
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  Speaker 2: country towards achieving some kind of parody with the left
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  Speaker 2: and the ability to amplify our positions. We're starting to
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  Speaker 2: make progress, i mean, ask Paul bear all about it.
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  Speaker 2: But we're running out of time. And that's what I'm
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  Speaker 2: worried about. I'm not worried about Mother Gaia imploding or
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  Speaker 2: the sea levels rising. I'm worried about does there come
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  Speaker 2: a point where we just have too many people that
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  Speaker 2: don't understand what's great about this country, so therefore they
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  Speaker 2: don't have the capacity, you're the will to reinforce it, which.
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  Speaker 1: Is why we had a limit on immigration in the
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  Speaker 1: nineteen thirties and forties to fifty thousand a year so
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  Speaker 1: that the people who came in in mass could assimilate
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  Speaker 1: and become Americans and learn what it is to be
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  Speaker 1: an American and learn the language, and get into the
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  Speaker 1: education system and become elected leaders locally. That's why it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't about being evil or being discriminatory, or you don't
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  Speaker 1: like people who are brown. Stop with the damn I'm brown.
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  Speaker 1: Stop with the brown silliness. It is silly. We have
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  Speaker 1: plenty of people of every shade in this country, and
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  Speaker 1: they're all welcome, but nobody from any country on the
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  Speaker 1: planet needs to come here thirty million at a time,
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  Speaker 1: because that does not let you assimilate to become an American.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and you nailed it right there. It has nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with the ethnicity, skin collar, who your parents were,
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  Speaker 2: which patch of land you were born on. I always
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  Speaker 2: say I'm a culturalist, right, like, all humans are equal,
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  Speaker 2: but not all cultures are equal. I'll give you a
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  Speaker 2: classic example. If you're coming from a place in the
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  Speaker 2: world where you want a better life of your family,
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  Speaker 2: that's amazing. But if that part of the world believes
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  Speaker 2: in stoning women because they were raped, that's not something
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  Speaker 2: that you're going to emulate. In its country. We're not
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  Speaker 2: going to allow. We insist that as part of this
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  Speaker 2: American enterprise, you adopt our values on those all important issues.
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  Speaker 2: And to your point, you hit it out of the park.
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  Speaker 2: That's what our system used to be designed to do.
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  Speaker 2: That's pluralism. That's not what the Left has allowed to
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  Speaker 2: happen in recent decades with unrestricted immigration. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: I know some people on our side are a little
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  Speaker 2: salty with the President right now. There's utopians if they
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  Speaker 2: don't realize it. You know, unless I'm getting ninety nine
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  Speaker 2: percent of what I want, I'm going to take my
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  Speaker 2: ball and go home. If he does nothing else. The
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  Speaker 2: changes he's made to the Supreme Court, in the federal
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  Speaker 2: judiciary and closing our borders to illegal immigration, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to pay dividends for this nation for decades to come.
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  Speaker 1: Matt, I gotta cut us here because we're up against
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  Speaker 1: the break. But Save Jersey founder Attorney Matt Rooney, also
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  Speaker 1: a talk show host down in Philadelphia. We thank you
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  Speaker 1: for coming on the Mark Simone Show this morning. We're
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  Speaker 1: both visitors to the show. I'm just filling in today,
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  Speaker 1: but it was a great to honor to have you
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  Speaker 1: on today, sir, and a memorialble a memorial What am
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  Speaker 1: I trying to say? English? Memorable? There we go, Memorial
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  Speaker 1: Day weekend. Let's remember those who fought and died for us.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Matt, I appreciate you. You bet
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  Speaker 1: a man.
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  Speaker 2: Have a great weekend, you too, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Camera's that I went from Mark on your Friday. When
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