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Ep 212 - "Shough's Got Something" Saints vs Bucs Week 14 RECAP · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_02]: past I know music no intro we are back he thinks block party podcast coming at you week 14 and buddy buddy buddy buddy do we have some things to talk about as the
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[SPEAKER_02]: beat the box 24 to 17 but the 10th Bay Buccaneers who are now tied
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[SPEAKER_01]: and the NFC South for a playoff spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm saying these things, I know Mickey Lomiss is taking notes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The two teams that they are tied with, they are tied in the NFC South for the division, the bucks and the Panthers, the same to split the season with the bucks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And have beaten the Panthers earlier this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we'll almost try and tell y'all, Brett.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Say what by podcast presented to you by precious works, L.O.C.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Adam here, Doyle with my guy, my co-host Ryan aka Wolf, and this, as a podcast, who, oh, let me get this ready.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who has, that water baby, been pounding the table for this team to pick one overall and what it
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[SPEAKER_01]: The biggest thing that could come down the stretch and we're seeing it slowly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And today, my just put the copper on it is if this team realizes they have a quarterback entirely unique.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And still let's say they're end up picking top five, top six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a win, Wolf, and this game we had, we had them score offensive touchdown on their first offensive drive, that was just the second touchdown they've had in the first quarter all season after a great kickoff return by Mason Tipton, and look, let's not overshadowed it, because that was huge for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, they have, it's not like they haven't been trained, they have been trained.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for weeks, mildly, score, mildly, and they just never could put it together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he came out with a good, like it was a, like, whoa, I gotta say, what's him watching right now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just, first play was like a shot down the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Chris Alave was in the field with like split second and through the time and off, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, I loved the aggressor and some runs, big stand, it was just a beautiful edge drive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like shout out to them for getting that done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were, they were doing,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were doing what we had been asking them to do in the preview pot, like open it up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Open it up, take some shots, like stop being so like such a constricting, constricted offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did that, they did that, and come out, score touchdown, but this game to me is two things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: making plays, whether it was him running the ball score to two touchdowns on the ground, a 34-yard on a recap, not really a read option.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a call quarterback run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the second touchdown, which was just him, making a playbra.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I was like, who am I?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This Josh Allen, who am I watching?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I was driving while watching that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, am I watching the bills games?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you cut that and paste it that, paste it like a bills jersey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on that, you would swear that was like just a Josh Allen plane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That he does like every week, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Swarb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe unbelievable plane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That you ain't all in calling the call of the game is, I can't call it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three wins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're now three wins team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got Kevin Holley's call.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was two two and a time for I felt like a Super Bowl bro was like, what is going on?
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[SPEAKER_01]: All great numbers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What has happened?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was an amazing play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that amazing play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Purely shook, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just purely shook.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you should have been sat right there making guys miss it back feel and just put on the burners and
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, do for the touchdown, I was scared.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he had hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I swear he was hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he just laid it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh no, bro, bro, bro, I thought he was about to put the gun up on the strength.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, good to the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, but he's got up a sick back, you know, but man, that was fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that was like just a fun moment of just
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, throw the draft picks out through all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just throw it up there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One moment, you just a football fan, like, man, that was fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That joy, that number two for this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get more in the shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: More two in this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Saints defense allowed the bucks of score 17 points.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the key side of this game is that the bucks try to go for it on four down seven times in this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on 4th down in this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess we'll have seven yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I threw a 13 on 3rd down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been saying it, Wolf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could say the bugs have been playing, you know, I don't care, but this is a little bit of a thing we're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brandenstaley and what he's been able to do with this group defensively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They put a startup during the game, comparing 2024's defense to 2025's,
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[SPEAKER_01]: market improved across the board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I couldn't believe it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, whoa, it was like 21st to like 8th to 20th to like 9th to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What?
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[UNKNOWN]: What?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Say, like, I get, it's annoying watching a brand instead of defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so annoying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you listen to our zoos, like, you think it's the worst defense of the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, what is it doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, they still charge a car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still terrible in the run, feel terrible in the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The defense, all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had, you know, they played Baker Well, the entire entire game, a lot of they tailored was like, Dr. Jekyll Mr. High of this game, where he'd make the great play, he'd give a play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he had that key interception in to start the third quarter, to start the second half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that set up the office, the corner, the test, like, it was like, oh, this is this is complimentary, but this is how many of you football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you believe it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is, this is Kevin's more, Kevin Moore's biggest win of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To go into Tampa to win this game in the rain, on the road when, I don't know what was it, I don't even know what the, what the point spread was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, and then 25, it was that point right, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody, nobody had this name when it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was another big, is another game
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[SPEAKER_01]: and him and his connection with Chuck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And take the run, Chuck hat outside of it, he made, there was some plays he made from the pocket, especially down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And third down, and late in the fourth quarter, where it's like, he made two plays, one was the Bailey on the sideline for a catch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's another play he made on that drive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was the Bailey as well, and maybe it was a lobby where he kind of got on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't explain how big this was because this is following this just coming off a back sub You had Fernando Mendoza against Ohio State last night Light it up throw in dots
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[SPEAKER_01]: were the team as of last night was picking second of raw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So then they'd go into this game against the books and they lose and then Tennessee won today and the Saints were picking one of raw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That starts to hold different conversations because he's like, man, well, and I can say that as of yesterday, I'm not saying that it's going, but they're probably out of the running for him now is that the Saints were at least were very interested if not still interested in Fernando Mendoza.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As of yesterday now after today does that change who knows, but they're not probably even arranged to even get him now now they're the picking fifth overall That's the right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for him first for shut to play like that and it's like it's like this pressure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's Like it's you don't see it, but that's pressure man when you have it when you record a back of a team that isn't very good and then your Competition puts on the shogun's Ohio state
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's pressure, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pressure, bro, and I like the way he just faces it, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just faces it, and by the whole thing was after watching me do the last night, everybody was all excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, we give it to those, he was all, you know, fun, but I was thinking like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, it's on suck, like, shut, if something wants to not not put me into the conversation, gotta go out there and win the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not fair, because obviously it's not all on him, you know, you got a defense, you got no running game, off of the line and tattoos, you ain't got no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pass, pass, pass, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you gotta go out there and find a way to win the game if you want to put that out with a conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the mid by the sports quarter, they were on their third right-top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have William Sermon at right-top, William Sermon was out there at right-top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When they got a civil war, that's when it's going to start out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sermon's March!
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, look at my phone, I'm like shining.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 66, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I was like, and now it's like the, the richest kid did he get hurt?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or did he get bitch?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he got hurt, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He owned a third string right tackle, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A dude that it just brought off street.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And listen, I get it, bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This makes it so interesting, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, let me tell him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to get some love to Devon fuckin' Neil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: BB in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Loved Neil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, big, big, big, big, big Neil, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He, I don't know how many yards he ran for, but he was a factor in this game and he ran for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember like 60, 70, 70, 19 cares for 70 yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 3.70 yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: KFC, 10 yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said 70, I said 70 rider dot bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Without even looking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a tough 70 to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like a tough 70 day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was running hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, he's a yellow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If not, if not a green for what he's been able to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kellen,
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[SPEAKER_01]: as head coach is so maddening during games, but something I really like that he did is that there's one sequence where he kept running the ball to the left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is right before, I want to say it was paper right before the 34 yarder that shook broke off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He kept running the ball to the left to the left with Neil, because they were getting a success out of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were getting positive yards, six yards, seven yards, eight yards, and then he calls the the run play with
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, one of the things that doesn't work with this team, usually because of Reeves because of whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you drafted a dang good left tackle, nine overall on the left side, run his way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they ran it, and Kellen didn't deviate from it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He kept going, which was a complaint of ours early in the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When the run game, like they would get like seven yards,
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[SPEAKER_01]: and then you, you once you run, I run at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, now that was good to see man, it's good to see Kelly and just kind of keep, keep chipping at the big cause it was looking to our right, they had to, they had to, to great, you know, first drive, to open a game and then it was like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was looking like last week in the first half and it was just nothing but pretty much all the yards that they got in that first drive was what they had for the half because they just wasn't moving the ball at all and went to the half without scoring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't did Charlie make that field goal to take the foot off I can't remember, but he wind up missing, he was like a 40, eight yonder and he winded the missing of whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they went to the end to the half, two points, plugs to get the ball back to start the half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's looking like, well, here we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a wrap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We could wrap this up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see if you get the pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's like, okay, we back, we back in business and then for the same thing going to score, I thought it was like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: wasn't a great game for killing more because there were some like grown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the third one and fourth and one put play calls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They drove me mad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one, the fourth and one, the big back kneel running outside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was about to get, get killing out of here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get them out again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So still some worse, but he kept chopping that a bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love how they started going that out in the middle of the field in the second half bingo to move the ball bingo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially on third down going to for lay going to crystal lobby making some big catches down the middle like that's that's where shook his drive that and honestly that's like a great thing to build off from a young quarterback because of how the young quarterbacks
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was scared to throw in the middle of the field because it's funny, it's like zones and all this they just don't like you don't have the confidence to do it He was sticking foot in the ground and throw those balls down the middle of the field So that's a great thing to see and he's one of the better like in the media quarterbacks You know in the league as far as like young quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just I liked I liked that there were things to build on man And like I said man for shock is like
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the same way we were at it like you got to chip away at the doubt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to chip away at the doubt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all on you the team ain't good We know we know it ain't fair We get it but you got to find a way and making plays like that one Fred touchdown where it's just me versus the defense and I'm gonna get us a touch time That that of chip away the doubt right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but chips away the doubt
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does kind of, kitchens it, killing try to get cute a few times, but the weather impact kept in that bay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Jack Hunter said, weather force more to call, run plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could see that, but yeah, like, but.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to play it may have but also in the past when he caught room plays they weren't executed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it wasn't like they wouldn't get in anything out of those room plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, it's all you want, but if they ain't going to wear, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they were actually moving about like I actually see that's like, wow, the offensive line is actually moving bodies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, for change.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On that 34 yard touchdown, that truck ran.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You had they get in the block.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You had John get in the block.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've watched it three times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've watched this team on team and seen so many instances where everything is blocked except for one player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Always a different player, but just one player misses this misses this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, if you're just execute one time, all of y'all and that was one time with it actually has brought it and look what you get let's look what you get out of it so that's just like a great teaching moment that you could play on Monday when you review and take like look guys when you execute this is what happens, so you can touch now like this is what happens everybody just got a form, you know, perform as a choir, you know, they do kind of kitchen set shout out to Grando and John.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like the joan things a little strong like don't with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's a wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A.O.N.
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[SPEAKER_01]: said, is it just me or do I actually like Brennan's daily other defensive coordinator more and more every week?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been on my radar how well the defensive played under him with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: at best adequate talent at best adequate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At very least, I want to see his defense with more talent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I want to see what he could build.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What he could do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And every resource came down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's done, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We pick it fit overall right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We, that how the reset is done, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We still got a
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[SPEAKER_01]: we still got to play the jet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Titans got to play the Raiders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's not just a lot of football left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Giants got to play the Raiders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is a lot of, I'm not saying we would never pick one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to think the pick one overall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, two, three, they can three, four, five, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you don't say it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just got to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just got to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say they, let's say five is where they're picked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say they're picked to the five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not this big enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who are you taking?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking, I'm taking, I'm taking Kayla downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I'm not worried about the positional value of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want, I want Brennan's daily to get him a true, blue trip player who can be the true star of the defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, Bruston is a lot to add that picked it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, bro, we come in back, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming, baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's run a daily get a Caleb Downs because I still believe in he is a true blue chip player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then second round, add a Chris Bale, add like a Jacobi L. whoever, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whoever, add or add a some juice and then round three add juice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at this point, I really feel like I don't say that to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have the answer to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if they know that sucks the quarterback and QB1, but I think it's pretty close.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just feel like because also what's combined with that is confirmation biased.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not taking anything more for Chuck because he's going out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's played.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one two games against the vision against the vision Rivals and division opponents But then you got Mickey in the back like Yeah, we did that huh Yeah, I think it's not
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had to grab the court back high, 1880, one of the, you know, you know, he fell in the fuck out of himself right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And look, he has a thing where like perception is amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like perception and like how relativeity and all that stuff because like, if Chuck was 23 in draft draft at 25th overall in the first round, it's at 25th, but at 26th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was 23 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he played exactly how he's playing right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wouldn't even be a question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he would read the quarterback going forward.
20:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Like when he's for the next year, I go wouldn't even be like a thought.
20:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But man, it's dude looking good.
20:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Traveling with the 25th overall, first round, playing well.
20:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Like of course, like he's the quarterback next year.
20:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But because he's 126, which he's an outlier, like he is an outlier as no.
20:32
[SPEAKER_01]: way to put it.
20:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's a second round quarterback.
20:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of like, yeah, but they don't have to, they don't have to, you know, be married to him.
20:42
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have to.
20:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the way it's just perceived.
20:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, that's what they're looking at it too, because if you're picking number one or number two overall, yeah, you're going to be in the position to go into the quarterback.
20:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think
20:56
[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day of your evasion is this true and you're real true to your evasion and you're grading it out and you're looking at him how he performs against the other work is this year.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to compare to Mendoza and that's it.
21:10
[SPEAKER_01]: More when they come out.
21:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like.
21:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, we could go a McDonald's.
21:14
[SPEAKER_01]: McDonald's is probably a better prospect than he was coming out.
21:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I was pretty easily, yes, easily.
21:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But is he, I can't even project him performing like this?
21:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Is the gap, is the gap that wide?
21:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it that wide where I have to reset the clock on the code of acquisition?
21:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say, complete reset.
21:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so at this point.
21:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so, man, you know?
21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I would rather than get a blue chip player,
21:41
[SPEAKER_01]: and then in just surround, surround, chuck with juice.
21:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And what about trading down?
21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's Mickey, so I know, I know.
21:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you picking fit, Mickey ain't treated?
21:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And just who's moving up like in this draft?
21:54
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no real fit.
21:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And like maybe somebody wants, I don't know.
21:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I like, and we were talking about this in a discord a little bit.
22:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And just that, I think Kevin bought it up like trading down.
22:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still in and Caleb down.
22:07
[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, bro, just just just take him back.
22:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:10
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want Caleb down to five, you take him back five.
22:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Take him five.
22:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And you live with, you live with it.
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: What else?
22:19
[SPEAKER_01]: What else from this game.
22:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's still a lot of talk about this game.
22:22
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, we had the Charlie Smith miss from 50 or 48 yards.
22:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He missed 48 yards.
22:27
[SPEAKER_01]: We pulled it left.
22:28
[SPEAKER_01]: But let's talk.
22:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I have this break.
22:30
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll take our first break.
22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about some things that still is in my crawl.
22:37
[SPEAKER_02]: About killing more.
22:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Just in terms of his some head coach and this is we'll be right back after this break.
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24:22
[SPEAKER_02]: There are some, there are some good things that I felt like Kellen Moore did in this game, but here's the point to think about, Kellen, him and his, how do I word this, Chuck might keep him around longer than he might actually need to be, because he picked Chuck and Chuck makes him look good.
24:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But there is just some things in this game that I think I think Ellen did well and maybe the chat is right that we know he had stick to the run game because of the conditions of the weather and I think that's probably a fact right it.
25:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But there is just some things that he did like that fourth and one call that that outside toss played a Devon Neil against the Tampa Bay fast defense and Devon Neil as slow as it is like it that that was madening.
25:12
[SPEAKER_01]: the the tasem shit that was like a oh a fumble snap he's still doing that and it's like bruh it's like shuck it showing you he can run like I don't I don't like why are we still doing the tasem stuff why are we still doing the tasem stuff but the thing that really boggled me was it was it was in the red zone it was third down
25:36
[SPEAKER_01]: They ran the ball, I think with Neil, it was a clear first down.
25:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a clear first down.
25:43
[SPEAKER_01]: The refs for whatever reason, I mean, I know the reason, but they spot short.
25:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And Kevin, instead of challenging it, I think it would have been pretty clear and evident that Neil got the first down.
25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: He called the fourth downplay,
26:01
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26:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the stuff that to me as a band and someone who just watches it, it's like man you still don't have the range of the like the minutia of the Yeah, coaching ship brother.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still it's so above his head
26:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So above is it one that was the first time.
26:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously you shouldn't you should have challenged that Then I was a weird call like even though Chuck compared it was it took him like making like a dark throw to Lava and low weapon the catch it it was like it was weird the identity then you get a penalty on it
26:58
[SPEAKER_01]: and what they were what they had, like 10, 10 putters today, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters, 10 putters
27:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to see that, like 10, like 10 penalties, that could have caused you to gain, you know what I'm saying?
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Good home.
27:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, but yeah, man, like, killing just, ah, he's frustrated, where he's frustrated.
27:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So frustrated, what?
27:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Just, it didn't like you look at him on the sidelines.
27:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Time, and he just looks destroyed.
27:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I absolutely destroyed.
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Stripe bro.
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he aspires no confidence as a, I don't know, like, I'm a player.
27:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I see my clothes when you're like that, I was like,
27:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we really are, son.
27:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be honest.
28:00
[SPEAKER_01]: No chance of winning this game.
28:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, go to all right.
28:03
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like the flip side of some other cool people.
28:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people are just too positive.
28:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he just on the sideline clap in his lecture clap before.
28:10
[SPEAKER_01]: We down 30 points, stop clapping.
28:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
28:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the opposite of that, if you don't opposite where he looks destroyed.
28:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like bro, the score is like 10-7.
28:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, why are you looking, that absolutely destroyed right now?
28:22
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think that's the stress of like, you know, coaching the third and now a three-win team.
28:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I want you to think yourself.
28:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's that, their famous gift for him with his with the cowboys, where he like flips through the scene, just throws it down like, just to be like, done with it.
28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm done.
28:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm clearly done.
28:42
[SPEAKER_01]: AKA the scientist said I love Tyler but not sold yet he has an exchange since an entry history if he can beat the entry prone allegations I'm in I don't know like he like I don't know what he like I don't I don't know how to respond to that I mean entry thing I mean Yeah, you need he's done more than enough than me to show like he's when he's not scared like it hit like that like that he's stood in the pocket he
29:08
[SPEAKER_01]: diving for touchdowns, getting hit, popping back up, I mean, I, I thought you weren't like, I'm not saying I'm sold on them too.
29:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's, obviously that's going to take time.
29:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But what we're saying is, are you at the point where, are you not sold enough to where you would you want to invest and trade it up for 30, you know, Fernando Mendoza took it again?
29:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, I would eat myself out of the window.
29:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you don't think that text that is, because you're going to compete, and you don't be just you, you're going to be kidding.
29:40
[SPEAKER_01]: 5,000, 5,000, and I wouldn't be annoyed without as a fan, and as someone who
29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: prior to watching a whole bunch of shuck was not a fan.
29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I watched a little when we watched him during the draft process, we were like, okay, like I can kind of see it.
29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Then they drafted them, we did a very, very, very deep dive with him with all 22 that Cody Alexander provided us.
30:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And,
30:04
[SPEAKER_01]: for him to play how he's played this season.
30:08
[SPEAKER_01]: The second half against the dolphins, against the Panthers, against the bucks.
30:13
[SPEAKER_01]: For them to maybe be at five, then trade up to get a quote for a doubt, be like, that would be gross, and who knows?
30:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, maybe he just craters the rest of the season.
30:22
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just like, yeah, that's gross.
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and it could happen, bro.
30:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, he could happen.
30:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It actually could happen.
30:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see it happening, but who sees anything happening?
30:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I'm saying?
30:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we just don't know what we call the pecks.
30:33
[SPEAKER_01]: frustrated because it's because you really don't know and I feel like Chuck has been but Chuck has made so much so many plays and spite of killing this season Yes, spite of killing since he's gotten the start bro, or it's like And I know like I think Rass Jackson said like, oh, kill it like a Tyler shuggies to mwy sneak needs to make more play than structure have y'all seen the structure Exactly, that's my whole point is like
31:03
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a problem with the structure, you know what I'm saying?
31:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, he's out of structure because the structure ain't working, you know?
31:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe there was some plays where he could perform in the structure that would work.
31:14
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, you look at the big plays that have happened over the past, you know, four or five weeks, 90% of them have been shoved, making a play.
31:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Like making something happen, 90% of them.
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Hellen play, but all the like the other big plays in that Panzer's game was shot the plays that shook made in the second half against the dolphins were like shook and mostly out of structure.
31:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So so
31:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to put the infrastructure things on him and I'll say as a strength for him is that in this game in the fourth quarter, the place he needs to meet, the place he needed to meet, infrastructure in this game made him, he made him, he made him, he made him.
32:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was one play I missed it.
32:09
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the end of the game, but he looked like he tried to hit the lead.
32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And Valet I guess had to kind of play defense or something like that with a book I hated that there's a bad play called like it was a bad play Call because even a valet would call that it would have been a choice a two yard gain and it was third and ten So that was a third and ten call and the the bucks almost intercepted that ball and one of gotten great field position I just didn't like to play call like that was a weird yucky gross play call
32:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And the things were very lucky that that didn't get intercepted by the by the buck and heirs because that would have set Dem up in great field position, but I was like again, I want to go back and give some credit to Brandon Staley because the buck's got the ball
32:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I got the 20, which, and then when it's like this, they pay it, play it, stop the clock, stop the clock.
33:01
[SPEAKER_01]: The clock's at a ton of time left.
33:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, shit, that's it.
33:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Two minutes, they had like a little under two minutes.
33:08
[SPEAKER_01]: They get the ball back and they get the ball back on the 20.
33:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And Brandon say, Lee's defense does not allow them to convert a first down in four plays on that drive.
33:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, who?
33:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it was, didn't, it was one play to a booker.
33:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It should've been in touchdowns, but he just dropped it, bro, he just dropped that bitch.
33:32
[SPEAKER_01]: He ran it out, he ran it out, he ran it out.
33:34
[SPEAKER_01]: He ran it out, he quit the rally, bro.
33:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And quit the block, quit the bit on the out and a book of turn that shit up, bro.
33:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It was wide open.
33:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I was driving, I saw that road, I see.
33:44
[SPEAKER_01]: God, God, you, he ran it, bro.
33:48
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a rock, bro.
33:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a rock, bro.
33:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That would have been a game right there, but other than that, yeah, the defense, I love the fight the defense play with today, bro Like I feel like they can you put took the test early this week like man, where's the Corridor man to fire you know all that stuff and I feel like they I feel like they had that the day like they just planned They did kind of look different.
34:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know because it's the box there, you know, they could be talking shit Yeah, they always get up for the box bro like this defense always gets up for the box
34:17
[SPEAKER_01]: They'd be tired of because they could be talking shit, like all game.
34:20
[SPEAKER_01]: He's talking shit, and not all the fucking work.
34:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Him and Cooley was going there to constantly on the side and I'm like, man, this is the baby, that's what they need it, you know?
34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Kenneth Kitchen said, sucks height in the ability to get the ball over the line and hit the middle of the field, short of big today.
34:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been so in the fall since he ever since he's been in the start really and Ryan has made this great point of just like when you have a quarterback and they have height like that in itself is a trait that that's a trait and a lot of the lot of the like maybe things that Rattler missed or didn't see
35:01
[SPEAKER_01]: was largely due to his height, or lack of height.
35:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And we got spoiled with a St. Span's with Drew Breeze, because with his height, he always played bigger than his height.
35:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was, it's just, he's an outlier than that.
35:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And that can be done like that.
35:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But Chuck is like, six, five, and you see it, you see it being a factor on game day.
35:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
35:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, he sees the entire field, man.
35:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He sees the entire field.
35:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So when he, the biggest thing for him in Proofman is it's like internal clock and just,
35:41
[SPEAKER_01]: working through process progressions and all that stuff.
35:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the stuff that comes with reps, man.
35:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that comes with reps. Because especially like this defense, they throw so many blitzes at you.
35:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Woo.
35:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know, come in, you don't know which direction this come in.
35:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So like you got to be able to read, it's like it's weird, like you got to read fast.
36:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't want to play fast.
36:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I know, like a lot of people we've been putting out, um,
36:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Shucks, uh, stats like against the blitz versus not against the blitz and like it's his Completion percentage drops drastically versus the blitz like everybody's Completion percentage drops versus the blitz, but he is drops like 30 40 percent So I looked and I watched like every snap this was before last week I watched all his snaps versus the blitz, but and there was no common theme like I thought Maybe he would be looking like skate scared or something like that.
36:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It was none of that
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a lot of mixed bad stuff.
36:36
[SPEAKER_01]: People driving the ball.
36:37
[SPEAKER_01]: He does play a little fast versus the blitz.
36:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm done because you get in the hurry.
36:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
36:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So you just kind of rushing throws, you rushing through progressions and stuff like that.
36:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's something that has to come to a time where he, you just got to be like, uh, uh, I had to acknowledge it again, man.
36:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to know where all you had to say, you got to know who getting open, you got to throw it into space and throwing the balls, not there.
37:00
[SPEAKER_01]: He had the interception of day,
37:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't remember if I was on a blitz or not.
37:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a misconception where it was just a miscommunication with him.
37:07
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a miscommunication.
37:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's fault, I don't know, like it was a lobby.
37:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it was like a sight adjustment thing where a lobby is feeling a leverage a certain way and he feels like okay if the leverage like this, maybe he's shook his looking at it like, well, look, you got inside leverage, so I'm expecting you to keep going, whatever.
37:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
37:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But it just didn't come away as like, oh man, what is he doing?
37:27
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just one of those damn shit happens, you know what I'm saying?
37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely.
37:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't know.
37:34
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37:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
37:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That says nine.
37:39
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37:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And shout out to Canada.
37:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if this is a question or just a statement, but it says Carnell Tate, Jeremiah Love or Jordan Tyson.
37:55
[SPEAKER_01]: If it's a question, if it's a question,
37:59
[SPEAKER_01]: to me it's it's carnival tape.
38:01
[SPEAKER_01]: The reason I say that we have we did a great draft episode with Corey Kitten Kenan a couple of weeks ago that's available for everyone to go watch, listen to a great draft, like, like, pre-emergent, like, private, yeah, you can say.
38:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was it was great.
38:22
[SPEAKER_01]: But my thing with Drew, Drew,
38:26
[SPEAKER_02]: is, I'm not saying he would become, shit, who's a rater in front of me?
38:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm blinking on.
38:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
38:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Just, just, just come, we're like, I'm not saying he was a gentleman.
38:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Ashen ginti for the Saints, because the offensive line is still not great, but seeing ginti behind the rater's line really has put a thing in my head of like, man.
38:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It don't matter how good you are running back for like it like it's a little line is like as it does not matter so like I'm off the
39:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm off the the love thing, especially high.
39:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Jordan Tyson has a plethora of injury issues through a house to who I was a career, where like as a fan, I'm good with, I'm good on players with like an extensive injury issue.
39:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So for me, I would, I would go Carnell Tate.
39:23
[SPEAKER_01]: He plays like, like a smaller M.T.
39:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Just just reliable, bruh, and a dog, a dog, bruh.
39:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And it, like kind of like a bouquet last year,
39:37
[SPEAKER_01]: not the flashiest player, it probably won't have like the greatest combine or whatever, but like, we'll hit the league day one and just be good.
39:45
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
39:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like damn, like, and everybody's like, man, how the hell let this guy fall?
39:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, why wouldn't he get all looked?
39:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the dude is just good.
39:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he would fit perfectly with the sense.
39:57
[SPEAKER_01]: It just comes down to like where we're picking, you know, picking five, it's like, I don't want it to happen.
40:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I can get Caleb down, it's like five, you know, you'll go Caleb down, you know, and plus you could, you know, get a wide receiver, you know, leading second round or something like that.
40:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And kind of, we're going to be picking way 33, 34th, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd, 33rd
40:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Someone, uh, DeMond, our new DeMond J with the one 99 super chat set is Thank you Allen's and Bell are the first two picks.
40:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be happy.
40:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Bruh, I'm good, Bruh.
40:29
[SPEAKER_01]: You give me Caleb down, you give me Chris Bell and round two.
40:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So good.
40:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Bruh, I'll be, be drinking back two zays all weekend in New Orleans.
40:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I might even say, y'know what?
40:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all go ahead and get y'all a guard that there's a guard.
40:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead and get a guard.
40:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Get a guard, I'll be all right.
40:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And then a hostway sound of all, one of the non-super chat pretentious at least he didn't scream at the lobby, Hashtag BC for not my quarterback.
40:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought of when they ran around, this was I thought of, but I'll do you.
40:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Could you imagine, call right there, call it for my car?
41:02
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you doing?
41:03
[SPEAKER_01]: For like, what are you doing?
41:05
[SPEAKER_01]: For like, what are you doing?
41:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Work on the car, I'm calling, I'm calling, I'm calling, I'm calling, I'm calling, I'm calling, I'm calling, I'm calling.
41:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Where's the ages?
41:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Where's the ages?
41:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, oh, what a bit of piss, bro.
41:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It's brother.
41:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Piss your lips.
41:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, um, we'll take our last break of the show and come back and wrap it up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: anything else from from this game that stood out to you.
43:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're trying to get some, some estimates to pay.
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was like the third quarter just out of nowhere.
43:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, oh, and, and like he ran that, he ran that ball.
43:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, no, that's, that's juice bro.
43:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like legit juice legit juice.
43:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like shocking to see.
43:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was like, oh, and that's moving.
43:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not like a shot against like them and Neil, but it just looked different, right?
43:27
[SPEAKER_01]: It looked different.
43:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Neil, so funny, bro, because when you watch them run, you like, god damn, he's slow.
43:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But he moving, you know?
43:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And some reason I think the fact that he's not like super fast, actually helps him, because it allows like the blockers to get in place and like actually block for him.
43:47
[SPEAKER_01]: So like some reason like the him running in like a his speed I think actually helps him move down like move down the field But I don't know is where but it was good to see estimate get it there.
43:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It was bro.
43:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You ever hold ever hold like
44:01
[SPEAKER_01]: have a lot of some great vision like he may not be like the most they let it go like, you know, juicy running back a little like that, but I think he just has a great feel for getting the hit in the hole and just going, they needed they needed that run game of the day, but like this need not be again.
44:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think chucked through the past through about 20 times.
44:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect.
44:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was in a way.
44:22
[SPEAKER_01]: What was it 20 bright felt 20 times, right?
44:25
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it 20 times completed 13 of Baker through 30 times and completed 14.
44:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like they would that's the game in the nutshell, right there, bro.
44:35
[SPEAKER_01]: They were on Baker as, bro.
44:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they were past where he didn't complete a pass or like each straight or something like that.
44:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the each straight we just wouldn't complete the passes.
44:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So there was on Baker as there was on the wide receivers.
44:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Still look the right.
44:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Defends just going lost from runs man.
44:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You just gotta accept it.
44:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Irving, Tucker, don't matter, buddy.
44:56
[SPEAKER_01]: They just, like, go, run, run.
44:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get the business, buddy.
44:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But as long as you just tied up in them and look, the past two weeks, you know, the red zone has been a big bugaboo.
45:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, there was the whole thing, it gets the Falcons with the taste of packages and all that.
45:08
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
45:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Past two weeks, there were two and two in the red zone this week.
45:12
[SPEAKER_01]: There were two out of three in the red zone, I think.
45:15
[SPEAKER_01]: or one or two or something like that, but like that big bunch of it in the rear zone, since they got rid of that, taint some package, and let that chuck is a gamer.
45:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Like right now is the dude is a gamer.
45:28
[SPEAKER_01]: A with gamers, you've got to let them play bro.
45:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You just got the turn of loose, make a play and take what comes with it.
45:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it's gonna get a negative sack.
45:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it's gonna be a hit ofception.
45:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it's gonna be a fumble, but sometimes it's gonna be a touchdown or a big play.
45:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So you just got the role with that man.
45:46
[SPEAKER_01]: 3 and 10, I believe.
45:48
[SPEAKER_01]: 3 and 10, like, I just go ahead and go out there and let the balls hang around, like, go for it.
45:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay.
45:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So, so that's why this is something that's a little annoying me in the chat.
46:01
[SPEAKER_01]: The aka the scientist said, Downs is a good player, but he's overrated IMO.
46:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Downs ain't that much better than Brian Branch for Detroit, and he was drafted in the second.
46:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you realize how good before he tore his Achilles, how bright, how good Brian Branch has been in NFL?
46:26
[SPEAKER_01]: If NFL knew how good Brian Branch had been before he drafted him, he would have been drafted before where he was drafted in the second round.
46:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you're telling me that the Saints could draft Caleb down at Bob over on, he would be as good as Brian Bridges in the NFL, you run, you run and turn that pick in, what are we talking, he would be the best of the player on the defense.
46:53
[SPEAKER_01]: What are we talking about right now?
46:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, man, like news like Kyle Hampton, a couple of years ago.
46:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, bro.
47:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.
47:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Think Kyle Hampton and Gozlozi did.
47:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was a whole thing where the NFL just oversat Calhamma to break it all the time.
47:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It was all about, oh, where did we put a safety, you know, like, the dude is a baller, like, come on, put on a tape, you know.
47:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it just can't overthink it at this point.
47:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, go get good, do look at this team.
47:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at the talent on this team, bro.
47:26
[SPEAKER_01]: kid could play, why are we, I over thinking like, oh, well, he's not a good question.
47:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I do Wesley asks is 13 games and where you all end on this draft class.
47:44
[SPEAKER_02]: This draft class has been super important to this team.
47:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not as good as 2017, it's not as even as good as 2016.
48:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But banks at nine, shuck at 40, the only one talking about the third round pick, but you got Sanker, got Quincy Riley, you got Devin Neal, that's a good draft last man.
48:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And this team has, Stuttman, Stuttman's forgot about Stuttman, who's still getting split in time with Pete Warner,
48:24
[SPEAKER_01]: This team needed influx of good young players, good young players.
48:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And they got that, it's one of the more, it's one of the more and most impressive draft class that the team has had since,
48:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly probably since 2017.
48:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying I'm not saying it's on the level of 2017 I don't know where you drive class.
48:50
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like one of the best draft classes of all time It's not the best draft class all time.
48:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You still got fucking equity in my homin out here making plays for the lions on Thursday night football No, so three sex the game so But but
49:05
[SPEAKER_01]: 14 that had had just been so like just bad and certain that some of that was on something that's been on Mickey, Lumiz the GM, some of us been on Jeff Irland in terms of his scouting, they needed a draft class like this.
49:18
[SPEAKER_01]: They needed it desperately.
49:20
[SPEAKER_01]: No question desperately, bro.
49:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I like this draft class, man.
49:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously it's not a juicy draft class.
49:27
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about that at Nossium.
49:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a flashy draft class, but you got a lot of players that I think will be
49:35
[SPEAKER_01]: glue guys going forward like glue for the team uh important contributors and stuff like that.
49:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't I don't they need any need of this draft class like even getting like a Devon Nill later draft man like those of those guys are contributing man if that's me could get on the field like every time I see him on the field he is making a hit something bro, I'm just like, whoa, something he's got perfect.
49:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He might miss a play in there, but like man get this guy on the field like if y'all
50:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You're seeing it.
50:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You're seeing it with tanker and we rally like get those guys on the field and let them take their lumps now instead of taking their lumps next year or whatever it is there it is anything else from this game and then I want to ask you anything else from this game that you had thoughts about it, but then closing out thoughts overall.
50:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Saints went in, draft position, all that.
50:28
[SPEAKER_01]: AKA the scientist, I think we should take a look at Jacob right where he gets from Texas Tech in the draft.
50:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I will not be talking about Texas Tech players in the draft because I'm not biased at all.
50:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So I will be, you can find, buys a little, right?
50:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You're quite, on that subject.
50:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no, I didn't know something is game, but as far as
50:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I was driving, I was like, what a season one at damn game.
50:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, that's good, right?
50:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, bro, I sounds bad to say the perfect thing would have been shook showing all he showed today, them losing and then having them have their number and overall pickers.
51:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm totally when, when that past to, um, to validate that, that, you know, yeah, that got popped up and almost in the 17 and, and the both got the ball back.
51:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, we're getting in time, baby.
51:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the books was about to go out and then I was going down.
51:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I bet it's been good.
51:34
[SPEAKER_01]: All bitch.
51:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Not today, but god damn it, damn it, defense not your stand up, so, but it ended up there, you still could end up, the Titans won too, so they kind of took the stinger off of it, because the Titans there went too, so it was like, we didn't fall too far, so like I'm good man, like instill, you know, we got to cut a lot of games left, you know.
51:58
[SPEAKER_01]: who knows what we're going to win or lose going forward.
52:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes, sometimes, just as a team, you just need wins like that, but like you just need, you need a dice, a quarter bag of style of stuff, you need it.
52:11
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want that steak on you like Radla had to deal with, like, oh, yes, I'm going to gain it, you're going to gain it.
52:16
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you got to get some dubs, you know, not only the build cover to yourself, but your teammates too.
52:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So your teammates could look at you like, man, but I do get a ducobo, you know what I'm saying?
52:27
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my do right there.
52:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, so I'm cool with it, man, but just chill out, chill out a little bit going forward.
52:36
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
52:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, got necked, they have, they have the Panthers in New Orleans on Sunday.
52:43
[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be all.
52:45
[SPEAKER_01]: You got, so yeah.
52:46
[SPEAKER_01]: The Panthers are going to be playing to try to potentially take the first place in the NFC South and I was told that the first game they played gets the Panthers, the Panthers weren't given the Saints.
53:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that this is the reason to think one of these games, but the Panthers didn't give Saints any man when the Saints beat them in Carolina and the bucks didn't really see like if you look like pre game the bucks wouldn't think about the Saints like they're like all the same.
53:24
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't team right now, we know that team.
53:26
[SPEAKER_01]: We are, we are, we are, I get it.
53:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've been on the other side of this question before, so you know, this game on Sunday, I guess the Panthers is such an interesting game because they can this team win two in a row.
53:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Are they going to keep building on this?
53:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Or is, you know, in the Panthers of now playing for like their playoff spot, like the Panthers playoff spot, bruh.
53:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've seen, we've seen this year, like when the pastors turn it on, they could put it on your ass.
53:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you brought them saying, so, I mean, this can't go either way.
54:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And we beat this fat to so, who?
54:03
[SPEAKER_01]: They will, we can preview that later, but they're going to be turned up.
54:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be in New Orleans.
54:08
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not, now they're like, okay, we got to take these naked seriously.
54:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Like these naked.
54:12
[SPEAKER_01]: They got to take these naked seriously.
54:15
[SPEAKER_01]: fun interesting like late-season game because like so much as online for like draft position for the yeah that's going to be a game we'll preview that on Wednesday but we appreciate all that we got after that is the chest right we've got the chest and the titans hey top top top right baby top right baby come back come back to me baby yeah I'll take baby
54:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Sit down for next week, but next week after that, I need to tie Ryan.
54:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to teach you guys.
54:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I got I need you babe
54:49
[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate y'all, uh, uh, uh, his name isn't Tyrod.
54:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he, he pronounces it differently.
54:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's to ride to ride.
54:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize to ride.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize to ride.
54:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all me.
54:57
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Peacar Michael.
54:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all me.
55:00
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55:07
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55:09
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now be 3 in 10 on the season and we'll be back this upcoming week preview in the Panthers game next Sunday we appreciate y'all.
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