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"And Just Like That": A SMNTY Watch Party · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane
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Speaker 1: Never Told You production of I Heart Radio. And we're
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Speaker 1: very excited about the episode we have for you today.
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Speaker 1: It is brought to you by the new HBO Max
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Speaker 1: original series and just like that, a new chapter of
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Speaker 1: Sex in the City which is now streaming. And in
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Speaker 1: this episode, we're going to react to and discuss the
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Speaker 1: first two episodes of the series which we just watched,
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Speaker 1: which came out on HBO Max on December nine. Of
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Speaker 1: we did, we got to hang out in person and
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Speaker 1: watch them. There was a Cosmo had, Yes, it was
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Speaker 1: It was delightful. There were some tears, Yes, some expletives
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Speaker 1: were released, but it was fun. I enjoyed it. You
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Speaker 1: can see our past episode on Sex in the City
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Speaker 1: where we did a kind of an overview of the
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Speaker 1: whole show. Um, and check out our Happy Hour watch
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Speaker 1: series which is ongoing. It's a bit of a project
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Speaker 1: for us. I think this is gonna be really interesting,
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Speaker 1: since Samantha, you have seen all of the episodes. A
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Speaker 1: movie and a half. A movie and a half is true,
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Speaker 1: A movie and a half. Um. Whereas I'm still very
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Speaker 1: early on in my Sex in the City journey and
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Speaker 1: we already have some thoughts about that. Then we're gonna
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into that later. But that being said, um,
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Speaker 1: there are going to be spoilers in this major spoilers,
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Speaker 1: which I have a feeling if you're interested at all
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Speaker 1: and you've seen any articles, you may already know these spoilers.
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Speaker 1: But a huge spoiler that I didn't know about that
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Speaker 1: I kind of wish I did. Yeah, I'm actually very
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Speaker 1: excited to talk about it, which sounds dark, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was really interesting because just having seen about three
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Speaker 1: episodes now plus these two new ones, it did feel
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Speaker 1: very different. Um, it felt like a very different thing,
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Speaker 1: which we're yeah, we're going to get into. But yes,
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Speaker 1: spoilers if you want to come back later. Um. Also,
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Speaker 1: there's podcasting in it, so it felt very meta. It
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Speaker 1: was interesting TV watching people podcasting on the show while
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Speaker 1: we were podcasting. Yes, yes, yes, okay, so you've heard
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Speaker 1: us talk about Sex in the City before, but just
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Speaker 1: a brief recap. Sex in the City is an American
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Speaker 1: comedy romance drama television series that premiered on HBO and
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Speaker 1: where it ran until two thousand four, So that's ninety
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Speaker 1: four episodes. Over six seasons and later two movies. It
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Speaker 1: was based on the Candace Bushnell book by the same
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Speaker 1: name and created by Darren starr Are and largely produced
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Speaker 1: and written and directed sometimes by Michael Patrick King. Yes
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Speaker 1: for HBO, It's Said in New York City and stars
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Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica Parker as sex columnist Carrie Batstraw, Cynthia Nixon
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Speaker 1: as Miranda Hobbs, Kristin Davis as Charlotte York, and Kim
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Speaker 1: Contrall as Samantha Jones. It follows the four women's friendships
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Speaker 1: as they navigate relationships and sex um and has had
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Speaker 1: a huge lasting cultural impact. People still talk about you
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Speaker 1: know who who are you in Sex and the City?
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Speaker 1: Are you in? Miranda? Which I love um and go
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Speaker 1: back and listen to her episode on it for more
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Speaker 1: on that. But yes, this brings us to the HBO
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Speaker 1: Max series and just like that, a new chapter of
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Speaker 1: Sex in the City. Sarah Jessica Parker, Cynthia Nixon, and
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Speaker 1: Miranda Hobbs have returned for it, and they've added Sarah
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Speaker 1: Amirez as comedian and podcast host, Chadas Nicole Are Parker
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Speaker 1: as documentarian Lisa Todd Wexley, Karen Pittman as Column be
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Speaker 1: a law school professor Dr Diah Wallace, and Serta Chattery
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Speaker 1: as real estate agent Sema Patel to the cast and
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Speaker 1: the show is trying to be less white, which is
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Speaker 1: one of the biggest criticisms of it, um, something the
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Speaker 1: cast and creators have been very open about. The writer's
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Speaker 1: room is reportedly fifty people of color and mostly women,
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Speaker 1: according to l Shrill and Ducabertie writer and Wow, No
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Speaker 1: Thank You author Samantha Irby, who will also serve as
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Speaker 1: co producer, Parks and Recreation alum Rashna fruit Baum, who
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Speaker 1: will also executive produce Twenties Black Lightning and Being Mary
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Speaker 1: Jane alum, Kelly Goff, who will serve as supervising producer,
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Speaker 1: and Julie Rottenberg and eliza's A Ritzky, who both worked
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Speaker 1: on the original series and will serve as executive producers.
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Speaker 1: New cast member Nicole Ari Parker told Variety, we can
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Speaker 1: talk about the elephant in the room that there were
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Speaker 1: no fully fleshed out characters of color, but now here's
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Speaker 1: the four of us. We're real people and they've been
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Speaker 1: great to work with, and some of our storylines deal
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Speaker 1: with race and deal with really experiences. It's New York City,
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Speaker 1: and Kathy On, the actress who plays one of Charlotte's daughters, said,
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Speaker 1: I really think it is going to showcase the way
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Speaker 1: that our beloved trio can actually interact with women of
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Speaker 1: color today, and even at a table read, there's always
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Speaker 1: discussion about how to make sure these characters are probably
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Speaker 1: representing a real person. I think those conversations are constantly
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Speaker 1: happening with the writers, with the producers, and they're so
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Speaker 1: open to it, and I see it in the storylines.
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Speaker 1: I also don't think it's going to reduce anyone to
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Speaker 1: just the color of their skin. Um And Ramirez is
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Speaker 1: also non binary and queer, the first regularly occurring non
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Speaker 1: binary cast member, and plays a comedian on a podcast
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Speaker 1: that regularly features Gary, which, yes, what's interesting. It's so
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Speaker 1: rare that I feel like I get to do the thing,
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Speaker 1: like that's not how it works or whatever. The door
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Speaker 1: is allegedly open for Samantha's character to return. We will
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Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit. So I feel interesting
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Speaker 1: eating this because I I have now seen these two episodes,
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Speaker 1: and I guess we should time stamp this because today
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Speaker 1: is December ten. Um So we've only seen the first two.
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Speaker 1: I have only seen of the series the first three
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Speaker 1: episodes so far, and then like bits and pieces, but
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Speaker 1: pretty much only the first three episodes, and now these
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Speaker 1: two episodes of and just like that. So it was
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Speaker 1: interesting for me to kind of put the pieces together
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Speaker 1: of what happens in between all of these episodes that
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Speaker 1: I am going to watch. But okay, where these characters
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Speaker 1: were At the end of the second movie we have
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Speaker 1: Miranda had joined a law firm, Charlotte was hosting a
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Speaker 1: child's birthday party, Samantha was having a very nice orgasm,
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Speaker 1: and Carrie and Mr Big were cuddled up on a
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Speaker 1: couch while watching a movie together happily. Ever after, we
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Speaker 1: would think, so, we've got Carrie as a writer, Miranda
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Speaker 1: as a lawyer, and Charlotte as a homemaker now in
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Speaker 1: their fifties. All of their husbands have returned. Um, so
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Speaker 1: you got Carrie and Big, Charlotte and Harry and their
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Speaker 1: two daughters, and Randon Steve and their son Brady, who
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Speaker 1: you immediately it was like, it looks like the guy
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Speaker 1: I'm rather tuy. Yeah, Willie Garson. Stanford Blatch returns obviously
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Speaker 1: film prior to his untimely death and Stanford has married
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Speaker 1: his longtime nemesis Anthony. Did you have any predictions, like
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Speaker 1: going in Samanthony, what did you think was gonna go down?
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I really didn't have any predictions.
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Speaker 1: I had no idea how they were going to handle it.
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Speaker 1: I think my biggest part was how they were to
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Speaker 1: handle the real life death of Willie Garson. So no, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't really have any predictions either, other than I
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Speaker 1: thought I thought as a novice, as someone who hasn't
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Speaker 1: seen all of them yet, I thought that Carrie and
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Speaker 1: Big We're gonna be having marital troubles. I thought it
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Speaker 1: was going to be kind of a cheating or I
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Speaker 1: don't know, some kind of struggle and their relationship. That's
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Speaker 1: what I thought was going to happen. So yes, we
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Speaker 1: watched the first two episodes, Hello, It's being a Little
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Speaker 1: Black Dress, and we recorded our reactions. Um, if there's
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Speaker 1: anything we had, we had some good We had some
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Speaker 1: moments on the mic where there are emotions, um, some
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Speaker 1: thoughts and uh, yeah, we wanted to to go over
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Speaker 1: some of those things, uh and perhaps share some of
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Speaker 1: that with you. Am I crying? Yeah? Do I want
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Speaker 1: to get past this? Yes, we just keep a crying going.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't I now understand why so
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Speaker 1: many people are mad. Is it a bad thing? No?
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Speaker 1: Do I hate it? Yet? I moved and I haven't
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Speaker 1: even seeing a lot of it. Yeah, you had tears
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Speaker 1: in your eyes. I know a lot of tears. Mind
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Speaker 1: is protruding out, but you're I get it. But i'd
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Speaker 1: legitimately like to take their have on this and do
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Speaker 1: I think it's super unexpected, but it's real. It's leg
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Speaker 1: like he almost died during one of the episodes and
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Speaker 1: like had this whole moment, so him having a heart
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Speaker 1: condition is not far off. So people being really upset
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Speaker 1: about this is like no, and I actually genuinely love
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Speaker 1: the same line. That's the best they could do. I
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Speaker 1: have a lot of feelings about this whole issue, but
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Speaker 1: that's a whole other thing. But all that to say, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: it's exactly so for myself who has gone through grandparents
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Speaker 1: deaths and friend, it's like I had I told you,
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Speaker 1: I think I had a whole year when I had
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Speaker 1: nine funerals, including unborn like like, where had they had
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Speaker 1: children that came prematurely and they had like I had
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Speaker 1: all of these things eight months in the pregnancy where
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Speaker 1: you know, all those things, but all of that to say, like, yes,
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Speaker 1: these moments and like I'm very attached to my animals
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Speaker 1: and when my dog died, who really just kept me
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Speaker 1: going during my really bad defects years, Like I couldn't
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Speaker 1: sleep so many nightmares, so many cases that when my
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Speaker 1: dog died because he sleeps in the slept in the
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Speaker 1: bed with me, I could not sleep on my in
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Speaker 1: my bed for a year, so I would sleep on
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Speaker 1: the couch. And even after the fact, every now and
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Speaker 1: again when I get super stressed out, I slept on
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Speaker 1: the couch because that was too much. And that's with
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Speaker 1: just a dog, so a partner that you've been with
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Speaker 1: for twenty years and more thirty years. Mm hmmm, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's really tackling grief like accurately. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is the good thing to me, Like they have
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Speaker 1: three perspectives in Miranda, you have the Charlotte and you
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Speaker 1: have Carrie and then stand for it. But like all
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Speaker 1: of those, I think that's a really good job in
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Speaker 1: portraying some specific things. And I hate this take, I
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Speaker 1: really do, but I think it's a good take. You
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Speaker 1: know me, if it's too too much, too real, that
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Speaker 1: I'm probably not gonna love it. But it's real, and
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Speaker 1: this I really think has established it as a different
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Speaker 1: show and coming into what does it look like after?
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Speaker 1: And here we are, and I get why people are upset,
11:54
Speaker 1: but I think a part of this is and oh
11:55
Speaker 1: my god, I'm sure we're gonna have many listeners yell
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Speaker 1: at me about this. People who are watching this as
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Speaker 1: a new thing, watching the reruns. So the tween or
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Speaker 1: three year olds are unhappy that they can't revisit that
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Speaker 1: in this time. And I get that, but like for
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Speaker 1: the actors who have aged, that's not where they're at.
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Speaker 1: So we're following them as they aged, and so it
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Speaker 1: becomes a different show. And I think it's on point
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Speaker 1: as a person who is actually in my forties coming
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Speaker 1: to find out, like the relationships are hard in itself
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Speaker 1: and when you have abnormal or things that are not
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Speaker 1: heteronormative to the ideas of the nineteen seventies, eighties, nineties,
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Speaker 1: this is the perfect family having an all perception, which
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Speaker 1: includes being married, having children. And to come to this point,
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Speaker 1: I think it's it works. I think this show is
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Speaker 1: aging as it's supposed to. People are angry. I get
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Speaker 1: it because they really wanted a reboot, and they should
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Speaker 1: know with the fact that it is now a new show,
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Speaker 1: it's not a reboot, it's a continuation. Therefore, right, this
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Speaker 1: is where we're at and it fits to me. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I agree. I think it's evolved and it had to evolve.
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Speaker 1: I had to. I do like this new take, I do.
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Speaker 1: Is it hard? Am I crying? Am I angry? Yes?
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Speaker 1: Am I gonna be thinking on this and having to
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Speaker 1: watch like Ratitui, which now I'm gonna think about Brady
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Speaker 1: being the chef in Ratitui? Sure, whatever, But I do
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Speaker 1: feel like this beginning, this newness and all again, I
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Speaker 1: think you and I will talk about it a little
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Speaker 1: more in our own um Sex in the City episodes
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Speaker 1: where we do I rewatch or your new watch that
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Speaker 1: I think they did. I know people are angry about
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Speaker 1: the same thing, but I'd like this take and it's real.
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Speaker 1: I don't know for y'all who are not in your
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Speaker 1: forties later thirties that this is what happens in friendships.
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Speaker 1: And unfortunately, yes, I do wish we could have a
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Speaker 1: perspective of seeing Sam lived her own life as you
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Speaker 1: are she's at, but we lose friendships because of miscommunication
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Speaker 1: in general, and then finding that one person or both
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Speaker 1: people were like, you know what, this is not worth it.
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Speaker 1: In the story, I will say I have lost the
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Speaker 1: friendship that I thought I would have forever who was
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Speaker 1: my best friend from third grade, because there was a
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Speaker 1: miscommunication and because I would have liked to see this,
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Speaker 1: but I think they gave respect enough to the characters Samantha,
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Speaker 1: but like we lost connection. She ended up moving back
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Speaker 1: home with someone that I was like, Okay, cool, cool,
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Speaker 1: that's you. I'm not going to fight this, but I'm
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Speaker 1: definitely not coming around. She had a child. Things kind
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Speaker 1: of got awry. I live in Atlanta, she lives like
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Speaker 1: two hours away. And then on top of that, Trump
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Speaker 1: election happened and some things were said on her end.
14:59
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, no, no, I'm a person of color,
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Speaker 1: you're our white person who is living in our small
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Speaker 1: hometown and you really felt the need to say this,
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Speaker 1: And that in itself tells me I can't. I can't
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Speaker 1: try to force her friendship in that. And I'm so
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Speaker 1: sad because it was twenty years, twenty five years worth
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Speaker 1: of our relationship that died essentially, and I'm like, to
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Speaker 1: me though, if she were to come to me, and
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Speaker 1: if she wanted to, I would be open and I
15:32
Speaker 1: will defend her to the end of the days. But
15:34
Speaker 1: at this point, I'm like, I'm too old to feel
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Speaker 1: like and we've changed too much to try to do
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Speaker 1: this in a way that's unhealthy. And we've talked about
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Speaker 1: that how to break up with a friend, and this
15:46
Speaker 1: is one of those moments of like, this is where
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Speaker 1: you were. You were inconsiderate in this, and now you're
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Speaker 1: having to reevaluate. And I think she's growing because there
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Speaker 1: are things that are happening, and I think people can grow.
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like, it's not my
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Speaker 1: job to make this happen if it's a one sided thing.
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't one sided. Our friendship was good. These
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Speaker 1: things fell through, Things happen, This communicates happens. And then
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Speaker 1: like thing came out. I was like, oh no, I
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Speaker 1: feel like you said who you were during the selection time,
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Speaker 1: and I know the Donald Trump era killed a lot
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Speaker 1: of friendships, family relationships, and I think that's that case.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what, yeah, and that's
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Speaker 1: I still feel that way today. Like, to be fair,
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Speaker 1: if she were to come to me and be like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: let's be let's reconcile, we would have a conversation. And
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Speaker 1: there's a couple of those that I'm like, okay, great,
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Speaker 1: But I've also come to the point that and there
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Speaker 1: are fifties, but for me in the forties, I'm like, no,
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Speaker 1: I don't have the bandwidth to do this. And I
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Speaker 1: think it's realistic. So I think that idea of like
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Speaker 1: one of the four splitting off, it's not that unheard of.
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Speaker 1: And I think even though yes, I think people are
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Speaker 1: going to be upset about the fact that the explanation
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Speaker 1: was that she fired her as a friend. Yeah, you
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Speaker 1: do see this take as the fact that that's how
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Speaker 1: you talk in your perspective, you know, like if I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about as I'm talking about my like end of
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Speaker 1: my friendship is my perspective, and people will be like,
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Speaker 1: I agree with you, hopefully you're on my side as
17:19
Speaker 1: my friend. And then moving on to that really genuine
17:23
Speaker 1: kind gesture of the flowers, I feel like that was
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Speaker 1: a nice little touch. Yeah. I think so too. So
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Speaker 1: I have a lot of feels and I'm snotty. Okay.
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Speaker 1: So I actually had a notebook and I was taking
17:53
Speaker 1: notes um while we were watching, and I wanted to
17:56
Speaker 1: read them, just my notes, and I think that it
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Speaker 1: will be very funny. That's that's my opinion. So for
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Speaker 1: the first episode, the first thing I wrote was now
18:06
Speaker 1: that is seeing the condom half full, sexy sirens in
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Speaker 1: their sixties, brunch with stars all around it, gray, ages
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Speaker 1: you in parentheses, ages um um, spicy redhead. Ruth Bader
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Speaker 1: Ginsberg mentioned that fries because there was a scene with
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Speaker 1: fries um my hair, question fabulous exclamation mark more to
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Speaker 1: her as an a t m ouch um, someone's quick
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Speaker 1: with the pronouns masturbation, anal compulsory heterosexuality, masturbation, men's bathroom,
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Speaker 1: her swine, sex, shamed shoes, rose style, lily prodigy, cinnamon roll,
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Speaker 1: five exclamation points, tokenism, question mark, making someone talk about sex,
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Speaker 1: question mark, losing friends, awkwardness. I was lied to, there
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Speaker 1: you go. So that's for the first one. For the
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Speaker 1: second one, I wrote little back dress different meaning why
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Speaker 1: question mark killing off a man to move forward the plot,
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Speaker 1: sex with teens, loud landline, question mark, Miranda Carey friendship,
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Speaker 1: very supportive, funeral home, Mrs Preston, not knowing what to
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Speaker 1: do for grieving friends, White savior complex, the peloton, no flowers, Samantha,
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Speaker 1: funeral fashion, how to address big issues making it about
20:02
Speaker 1: you count Dracula, alcoholism. So that's a wide A lot
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Speaker 1: of ground was covered in these two episodes. So Samantha,
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Speaker 1: what is your general how do you feel now that
20:21
Speaker 1: we've watched them? What's your take? I mean, obviously there's
20:23
Speaker 1: just a lot to take in. Um. I think I
20:27
Speaker 1: summarized it pretty well at the end of our conversation
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Speaker 1: and watching it. Um, I think it's a good turn.
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Speaker 1: I think it fits with what they're going through, what
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Speaker 1: they've gone through, and as many controversial stuff has happened
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Speaker 1: and people are talking about it, I get it and
20:43
Speaker 1: people this is a big change from what we see.
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Speaker 1: But I mean, part of the reason Sect in the
20:47
Speaker 1: City did work was because of the fantasy, but also yeah,
20:51
Speaker 1: there was a lot of realism in it too. You
20:53
Speaker 1: haven't been a part of the show to see like
20:55
Speaker 1: the ins and outs of the cheating and the good
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Speaker 1: guy versus the bad guy, which there is, and who's
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Speaker 1: the villain here? Who isn't the villain here? There's that
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Speaker 1: big trope about who is wrong and right, So there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of that. So I think that's where it
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Speaker 1: leads to this is what it was. I just didn't
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Speaker 1: expect to be hit so heavily at the beginning. Yes,
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Speaker 1: so I guess we should address the one of the
21:17
Speaker 1: elephants in the room, which is the death uh that
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Speaker 1: happens in the first episode Big Dies, And Samantha and
21:29
Speaker 1: I when we were watching it, because the reason I
21:31
Speaker 1: wrote I was lied to is I read in an
21:34
Speaker 1: interview from Michael Patrick King no one would be dying,
21:40
Speaker 1: and so I was like, okay, good to know. And
21:43
Speaker 1: then right away someone but it's a band that I
21:49
Speaker 1: both thought he was going to masturbate um because it
21:53
Speaker 1: had it had been a question that Carry had brought
21:56
Speaker 1: up and she'd asked like, will you master in front
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Speaker 1: of me as part of her like drive to be
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Speaker 1: more open on this podcast about sexuality, which also is
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Speaker 1: very interesting because she was a sex columnist, but her
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Speaker 1: for her personal self being more open, which I guess
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Speaker 1: is probably going to be an arc for her. But yeah,
22:19
Speaker 1: Samantha and I were like, oh no, he's gonna masturbate
22:22
Speaker 1: he died instead. Yeah, Oh yeah, so so I didn't
22:32
Speaker 1: expect that it is like I thought, as I said,
22:37
Speaker 1: it feels very different than what I've seen from the
22:43
Speaker 1: very first season so far of the show. It did
22:47
Speaker 1: feel like a really accurate to me depiction of grief.
22:51
Speaker 1: And you kind of had all of the different examinations
22:55
Speaker 1: of it because you had like Miranda, who I loved
23:00
Speaker 1: that scene where she just showed up when Carrie called her.
23:04
Speaker 1: She just showed up and hugged her and held her
23:08
Speaker 1: at night and was just there like that supportive friend
23:11
Speaker 1: that was just there. You had her being angry. You
23:14
Speaker 1: had Charlotte feeling this guilt because she had convinced Carrie
23:18
Speaker 1: to come to a concert with her that night, but
23:22
Speaker 1: kind of making it about herself. And I did like
23:25
Speaker 1: that you got where she was coming from, but you
23:27
Speaker 1: also got where Carrie was coming from, like you understood
23:32
Speaker 1: both of their viewpoints. And then you had like Stanford
23:37
Speaker 1: kind of making jokes but also kind of being performative
23:41
Speaker 1: at a funeral. Um, And yeah, that was interesting to
23:45
Speaker 1: see kind of this performative grief and this fashion at
23:50
Speaker 1: a funeral. I'm interested to see where it goes from here.
23:57
Speaker 1: Um in terms of like how Carrie's going to handle
24:00
Speaker 1: it and how everyone's going to deal with it. Probably
24:07
Speaker 1: the other thing we were talking about is obviously Samantha
24:10
Speaker 1: didn't return, which has been this kind of big question
24:14
Speaker 1: hanging over it and how they addressed it, and you
24:18
Speaker 1: and I Samantha were talking about how we've had similar
24:23
Speaker 1: things happened, because in the show, essentially it's sort of
24:27
Speaker 1: told is like basically they had a falling out and
24:30
Speaker 1: it just fizzled. Their friendship just fizzled, and she moved
24:34
Speaker 1: to London and they're just not friends anymore, which I
24:38
Speaker 1: have had something similar happened to me, and we talked
24:43
Speaker 1: about We've talked about that a lot, and are like
24:44
Speaker 1: toxic friendship episode are just you know, it feels like
24:48
Speaker 1: failing when you lose a friends, but sometimes it's just
24:52
Speaker 1: sort of a natural progression, right, I think about a
24:57
Speaker 1: big part of the controversy, of course, from the beginning,
24:59
Speaker 1: was is why Samantha wasn't returning Kim Control and just
25:04
Speaker 1: about how this is going to be a different show now,
25:06
Speaker 1: and absolutely it is a different show, and I think
25:09
Speaker 1: that was the point. I made that point a few times,
25:11
Speaker 1: saying this is why they started it as a completely
25:15
Speaker 1: different title, a mini series to recreate something that was
25:19
Speaker 1: loved in a different way that follows them at this
25:23
Speaker 1: age and time. And I don't know, Like I said before,
25:26
Speaker 1: and then when we were viewing it, I think for
25:28
Speaker 1: a lot of newer viewers, like yourself, even like it felt,
25:33
Speaker 1: even though we are obviously having a flashback, you still
25:37
Speaker 1: feel that cinement and know them as that kind of like, uh,
25:41
Speaker 1: they just that forever on screen, there forever young on screen.
25:45
Speaker 1: So when we revisit and have them aging and then
25:48
Speaker 1: finding new places in their lives, that doesn't feel on
25:53
Speaker 1: point with what you thought they were at because again,
25:56
Speaker 1: you have frozen them in that time that it has
25:59
Speaker 1: a shock a b It's a shock when things do
26:02
Speaker 1: change and people are written out. And of course again
26:07
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were just automatically going
26:09
Speaker 1: to be upset that Samantha Jones was not gonna be
26:12
Speaker 1: in it. People are automatically upset because they associated with
26:16
Speaker 1: Kim Control. That even mentioning Kim Control's a character of
26:19
Speaker 1: Samantha which she did create she did a beautiful job
26:22
Speaker 1: with seems like an affront to the fans And I
26:25
Speaker 1: get that, but honestly, yeah, I think it's very realistic.
26:29
Speaker 1: I think friendships like that was realistic, as in fact,
26:31
Speaker 1: one of the reviews that I read when they were
26:34
Speaker 1: defending the makes sense to me when everybody else like
26:36
Speaker 1: you did Samantha dirty, which I saw that so many times.
26:40
Speaker 1: It essentially was no, but it made sense because they
26:43
Speaker 1: were already struggling with friendships. They had a big conflict
26:46
Speaker 1: when Carrie decided to get married, and that was on purpose,
26:49
Speaker 1: and then when I when she became the maid of honor.
26:52
Speaker 1: You know, she was accepting it all these good things,
26:55
Speaker 1: but in actuality I always thought, which again I love
26:58
Speaker 1: Samantha Jones, but just like in this episode, in these
27:02
Speaker 1: two episodes, Miranda always has showed up. Miranda was the
27:05
Speaker 1: one that she always called like that was the first
27:08
Speaker 1: person no matter what in the group, there's always a
27:10
Speaker 1: kind of a breakdown, and the person that closest to
27:13
Speaker 1: her that she saw the most, or was there for
27:15
Speaker 1: the most, or was there for her immediately, was Miranda.
27:21
Speaker 1: So I found that weird when she wasn't the maid
27:23
Speaker 1: of honor. But again I know that was actually a
27:26
Speaker 1: lot to do with contracts in the air time. But
27:30
Speaker 1: so having that fall apart did not seem surprising, and
27:34
Speaker 1: with the fact that she dust in the flowers, I
27:37
Speaker 1: thought that was a lovely touch. I thought that was
27:39
Speaker 1: a nice sentiment of hey, we're not fixed, but I'm
27:43
Speaker 1: thinking about you. So I think that was actually really
27:46
Speaker 1: great way to have Samantha in that because they couldn't
27:50
Speaker 1: just ignore as if it would have been real dirty,
27:52
Speaker 1: if something that had not done anything at all, Knowing
27:56
Speaker 1: that this is the love of her life and he
27:58
Speaker 1: has gone. Um, I think one of the things that
28:01
Speaker 1: I was really scared about. And yeah, I definitely had
28:04
Speaker 1: to explain to you a majority of what was happening
28:06
Speaker 1: because there was a lot of throwbacks to original seasons.
28:09
Speaker 1: Several old school characters came back to play, which was lovely. Um.
28:13
Speaker 1: Stanford's own relationship with Anthony kind of came back into view, like, Okay,
28:18
Speaker 1: what's happening here? Yeah, seeing Lily and Rose was a
28:22
Speaker 1: tiny baby when the last time I, because I did
28:24
Speaker 1: not watch all of the second movie, had seen her. Um,
28:27
Speaker 1: and I love you know, her being whatever, whether it's
28:31
Speaker 1: uh non binary or she wants to be you know,
28:34
Speaker 1: just a tomboy or that's the thing for her or
28:37
Speaker 1: what or just not wanting to be in that world
28:41
Speaker 1: of posh style Rose. I like where they're going with that.
28:44
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be interesting, and I think
28:46
Speaker 1: that opens it up for a lot. So, like, there's
28:48
Speaker 1: a lot of throwbacks in the first two that I
28:50
Speaker 1: really appreciated. I had to explain to you about the
28:53
Speaker 1: shoes because I was like, that is pivotal to what
28:56
Speaker 1: happened in the first movie. And that's kind of the
29:00
Speaker 1: thing when Big and She did not get married, which
29:03
Speaker 1: you don't know about. I know, I'm having all you uppeting.
29:09
Speaker 1: Miranda was there for her immediately. And then when Miranda
29:13
Speaker 1: and Steve had troubles, Carrie was there for her immediately.
29:16
Speaker 1: So you have all of those kind of throwbacks in
29:18
Speaker 1: these conversations. And yeah, also in a throwback, Lily seems
29:23
Speaker 1: to be across in some of these plot points the
29:28
Speaker 1: most to her poor thing. Yeah, that seemed to be
29:31
Speaker 1: a big takeaway in social media anyway. And I did
29:36
Speaker 1: want to touch on this because Miranda in this season,
29:41
Speaker 1: like it was incredibly awkward, incredibly awkward interactions and I know, Samantha,
29:48
Speaker 1: those are very difficult for you to watch. And I
29:54
Speaker 1: think it's interesting because it feels like, um, I think
30:01
Speaker 1: you said, you know, it's like they're kind of picking
30:03
Speaker 1: up like that nothing is totally fixed. They're not like
30:08
Speaker 1: totally you know, suddenly woke feminist or something, but they
30:11
Speaker 1: they're working on it or specifically Miranda and in this case,
30:16
Speaker 1: you know, white feminism and being the white savior and
30:19
Speaker 1: trying to not be that but then like stepping in
30:21
Speaker 1: it every opportunity, um and trying to work through it.
30:27
Speaker 1: But it is I yeah, I feel like there's definitely,
30:33
Speaker 1: you know, some some moments where it's almost kind of
30:37
Speaker 1: leaning into our conversation we had allow on Black Chrishnas
30:39
Speaker 1: of like this is too Wow? Is this too on
30:42
Speaker 1: the nose? Like is it too And but at the
30:45
Speaker 1: same time, I'm like, yeah, this would be really awkward,
30:48
Speaker 1: And you know, they're having these conversations and I think
30:50
Speaker 1: like sometimes they were pretty clunky in the way they
30:53
Speaker 1: handled it. But I do appreciate the that there like
30:59
Speaker 1: trying to have those conversations, trying to examine the flaws
31:04
Speaker 1: of these characters of the past and trying to kind
31:08
Speaker 1: of clumb some me be better. But it is interesting
31:13
Speaker 1: that it's likely Miranda, right. I think Miranda is the
31:17
Speaker 1: one being thrown into that situation, though she's the only
31:19
Speaker 1: one that's with the younger quote unquote crew. Although we
31:23
Speaker 1: do once again see the newest character of LTW is
31:28
Speaker 1: how Charlotte calls her at the beginning as if she
31:31
Speaker 1: was like, uh, I don't know, prince or something. Apparently
31:35
Speaker 1: she's very rich and very well known in society. Lisa
31:39
Speaker 1: like the way they introduced her too was interesting. I
31:42
Speaker 1: kind of like, okay, uh, we're trying to try and
31:44
Speaker 1: change some things. I think the biggest question again, like, yes,
31:48
Speaker 1: how much can you do in two episodes? And here
31:50
Speaker 1: we are fumbling in in And what we don't realize
31:53
Speaker 1: until later on is that Miranda is taking a chance
31:56
Speaker 1: by quitting what she knew, which she was a partner
31:59
Speaker 1: in law firm, she was making money and after feeling
32:03
Speaker 1: a lot of things. And I think we can all
32:04
Speaker 1: say during the time of the Women's March, people were
32:07
Speaker 1: feeling things and trying to change things and wanting to
32:09
Speaker 1: do things. And we can also say during the Women's March,
32:13
Speaker 1: a lot of good intended people were exclusionary and not
32:16
Speaker 1: understanding of their privilege. And I think that's what Miranda
32:19
Speaker 1: was representing. Maybe I'm reading into it because it also
32:22
Speaker 1: did fit into the character of Miranda, which I already
32:25
Speaker 1: told you, like, she is bossy, she's the first one
32:27
Speaker 1: that's going to speak up even though she didn't have to.
32:30
Speaker 1: So her telling someone that's so and so seet after
32:32
Speaker 1: she'd been corrected is on point with our character. So
32:36
Speaker 1: I think that is appropriate even in those stages of grief.
32:39
Speaker 1: It was on point with each of those characters. And
32:41
Speaker 1: I've already talked about that, the fact that you know,
32:43
Speaker 1: we have Charlotte who is so over the top emotional
32:47
Speaker 1: that Carrie had to care for her instead of the
32:49
Speaker 1: other way around, and Miranda's automatically angry and she's going
32:53
Speaker 1: to lash out because that's what she does, and that's
32:55
Speaker 1: kind of their characters, uh, the entire time. So it
32:59
Speaker 1: made sense. So people are like, why are they doing
33:01
Speaker 1: this thing? And I did. I definitely saw a TikTok
33:04
Speaker 1: video recently talking about how Sam got really raped over
33:06
Speaker 1: the coals and doing the worst bits or worst plot lines,
33:10
Speaker 1: and I was like, have you seen Miranda's character, Because
33:13
Speaker 1: for the first three years, people just talked about how
33:16
Speaker 1: awful she was because literally it sounded like she was
33:20
Speaker 1: the boss bitch in a negative term. When in actuality.
33:23
Speaker 1: We were all like, no, that's real. She's right, let's
33:26
Speaker 1: just be real honest. And you know, to this day,
33:29
Speaker 1: I'm like she she had the most realistic point of
33:33
Speaker 1: view and standards, and I think it's okay, but yeah,
33:36
Speaker 1: to me, like they all hit their characters as seen um,
33:41
Speaker 1: and I did think it was interesting going back to
33:43
Speaker 1: like Samantha being absent is a character in itself, and
33:47
Speaker 1: I think they know that, yes, yes, for sure. And
33:51
Speaker 1: there's one thing I was really curious about is how
33:55
Speaker 1: they were going to handle like COVID, because they said
33:58
Speaker 1: they would and it is shin but it's kind of
34:01
Speaker 1: like implied that it's handled or something. But also, yeah,
34:05
Speaker 1: like well what you said. They brought up current events,
34:07
Speaker 1: things that have happened recently within the past couple of years,
34:12
Speaker 1: and how they have influenced these characters. And also I
34:20
Speaker 1: think one of my favorite parts they did hit on.
34:23
Speaker 1: I mean it's almost like there was like, dang, here's
34:26
Speaker 1: your you love brunch for em when they did brunch,
34:29
Speaker 1: They're doing bunch like but they had that supportive relationship.
34:32
Speaker 1: But I also thought it was really interesting that they
34:34
Speaker 1: did have kind of these I don't I don't want
34:38
Speaker 1: to say conflicts, but just the nuances in their friendships,
34:42
Speaker 1: because Carrie was like, I can't have Charlotte around because
34:46
Speaker 1: she's too emotional and she's going to make it about
34:50
Speaker 1: herself and having that conversation and kind of working through it.
34:55
Speaker 1: But I do appreciate that we're seeing these difficult cults
35:00
Speaker 1: and them kind of working on those difficulties. But those
35:02
Speaker 1: do exist, especially if they've known each other that long. Yeah,
35:06
Speaker 1: that was still my favorite part. I think my favorite
35:08
Speaker 1: scene was in Miranda and carry were like right after
35:12
Speaker 1: Big died and they were in the bed. It was
35:16
Speaker 1: and I think that was again it also kind of
35:19
Speaker 1: attest to the fact that they were friends from a
35:22
Speaker 1: while ago and very supportive of each other even before
35:26
Speaker 1: the actual show. And again, yeah, that three of them
35:29
Speaker 1: are very much supportive of each other and these shows
35:33
Speaker 1: and whatever their activities were. When Cynthia Nixon ran for
35:36
Speaker 1: may or, they were all behind our one and twenty
35:38
Speaker 1: thousand percent, and that they still are. I think it's interesting. Yeah,
35:42
Speaker 1: they did try to keep that at the crux of
35:47
Speaker 1: the show, and that's kind of the whole thing is
35:48
Speaker 1: like everybody's piste off that Big is dead, and yeah,
35:51
Speaker 1: that's significant because the entire show is based on her
35:55
Speaker 1: finding love, which is a trope in itself, but and
35:58
Speaker 1: she lost it. Now what do you do you? And
36:00
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's just coming back around to that
36:02
Speaker 1: centering of friendships and and sticking to the fact that, yeah,
36:06
Speaker 1: it was it was the crew of them and holding
36:09
Speaker 1: each other up. I mean, in the end of the
36:11
Speaker 1: first movie, Big does say, I know that they are
36:14
Speaker 1: the true loves of your life, meaning these ladies that's
36:17
Speaker 1: been with her, and it is it's true for them,
36:21
Speaker 1: and that's again one of the big things that it
36:23
Speaker 1: made me love Sex in the City was that they
36:26
Speaker 1: had fights, but they still loved each other um throughout
36:31
Speaker 1: and it felt nice. It felt nice to see that
36:35
Speaker 1: where they weren't necessarily backstabbing each other, they weren't cheating
36:38
Speaker 1: with each other's mands. They were you know what I mean,
36:39
Speaker 1: like not that that has to happen, And again, that
36:41
Speaker 1: is very much stereotype, but that was perpetuated a lot.
36:44
Speaker 1: And so to have a successful series that actually elevates
36:48
Speaker 1: these friendships is a beautiful thing. And I think they
36:50
Speaker 1: did a great job in bringing that back because they
36:54
Speaker 1: do they are there for those key moments for each other.
36:56
Speaker 1: Same way with Charlotte was going through not being able
36:58
Speaker 1: to get pregnant and all of the heartbreaks of miscarriages,
37:01
Speaker 1: like they were there for each other, which you have
37:03
Speaker 1: not seen yet, but you will come upon accidental pregnancies,
37:06
Speaker 1: like all of these things, whether or not to decide
37:08
Speaker 1: to keep the fetus or not. Like all of these
37:10
Speaker 1: conversations were huge and they were right there for each other.
37:14
Speaker 1: And it makes sense that if this is their final hurrah,
37:17
Speaker 1: that they would approach the death of their loved one
37:21
Speaker 1: like this. And I think this kind of feels like, yeah,
37:24
Speaker 1: we're closing it up. If this is what they're planning
37:26
Speaker 1: to do. Maybe that's a prediction in itself, and this
37:29
Speaker 1: must be a mini series. Maybe they're just testing the
37:31
Speaker 1: water to see if they can make a third movie.
37:33
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, that it does come back
37:35
Speaker 1: around in that love and support and again coming back
37:39
Speaker 1: to we haven't seen Charlotte do too much yet, I
37:43
Speaker 1: will say for her character, I truly believe it wasn't
37:47
Speaker 1: even though like, yeah, oh, don't do this, don't make
37:49
Speaker 1: her carry her your emotional labor, But the fact is
37:52
Speaker 1: that she feels like it's her fault. She feels like
37:55
Speaker 1: she did something wrong and that this is gonna in
37:57
Speaker 1: their friendship, which maybe a part of the black line,
38:00
Speaker 1: because it could have been miscommunication when Carrie was like,
38:03
Speaker 1: I can't deal with all the emotions. But in Charlotte's head,
38:06
Speaker 1: it's like, as you blame me, you're mad at me,
38:09
Speaker 1: And it absolutely could have been a part of that,
38:12
Speaker 1: you know, even even like partially, but then they were
38:15
Speaker 1: able to break that down and and close it up
38:17
Speaker 1: nicely and come together. I think that that is on
38:22
Speaker 1: point with Charlotte's character, so the new writers have added
38:25
Speaker 1: that on as who she is. Yes, this is exactly
38:28
Speaker 1: I believe that reaction of Charlotte, because she's also the
38:31
Speaker 1: one when Carrie announces her engagement to Big screamed in
38:34
Speaker 1: the middle of the restaurant and announces to everyone to
38:37
Speaker 1: the point that Carrie is some mortified, but like that's
38:40
Speaker 1: her response. She's an emotional person and she agrees it
38:44
Speaker 1: this way, and I think it makes perfect sense for
38:46
Speaker 1: a character, and I get that. I don't think it
38:49
Speaker 1: was a selfish intent, but it just happens to be.
38:51
Speaker 1: You know, she's a pretty she's like, what do they
38:54
Speaker 1: call her like a park princess essentially in the beginning
38:57
Speaker 1: of the movies, because she she's a social hite princes
39:00
Speaker 1: Us who is like a wasp, and and then converted
39:02
Speaker 1: to Judaism to be with her husband. Like all of
39:04
Speaker 1: these things, Annie, you and for a treat, giving a
39:07
Speaker 1: lot of things. All these things are on point from
39:12
Speaker 1: what I see the character and even Samantha's reaction, even
39:15
Speaker 1: though of course we would have liked to see our
39:17
Speaker 1: that's on point. I think the only one thing I
39:21
Speaker 1: did not love Stanford's reaction because between the two of them,
39:25
Speaker 1: Stanford is typically the one that does understand emotions more
39:29
Speaker 1: than an Anthony is the blunt, over the top, just
39:33
Speaker 1: blurted out guy. And they had this kind of switch,
39:35
Speaker 1: and I was like, what that was different to me? Yeah, yeah,
39:40
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting to see how that all plays out.
39:43
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things we were talking
39:45
Speaker 1: about is, you know, the original series felt very much
39:49
Speaker 1: like a fantasy and kind of an aspirational fantasy element
39:54
Speaker 1: of you know, we all kind of new there's no
39:57
Speaker 1: way they could have afforded what the fashion they we're
40:00
Speaker 1: wearing on what they were, the jobs they had, but
40:03
Speaker 1: but we liked, you know, seeing it and suspending on disbelief,
40:07
Speaker 1: whereas this one feels very much more like there's still
40:12
Speaker 1: that Absolutely they're still fashion and stuff. I'm like, I'm
40:17
Speaker 1: sure that costs more than my entire wardrobe. Shoes, It's
40:21
Speaker 1: worth more than two months of our paycheck. Any the shoe.
40:24
Speaker 1: I gassed aloud when I saw those shoes, And so
40:27
Speaker 1: it feels kind of like jarring. I think of of
40:32
Speaker 1: kind of a reality check, and especially we were talking
40:35
Speaker 1: about how like, I don't think this was the intent,
40:37
Speaker 1: but it's interesting that you know they're older and then
40:39
Speaker 1: immediately someone dies from a heart attack kind of. And
40:44
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that because I did rewatch right
40:46
Speaker 1: after we watched them to kind of get my thoughts
40:48
Speaker 1: together for this, and I was thinking of the you
40:51
Speaker 1: know when Carrie ends the episodes, but she doesn't have
40:54
Speaker 1: a lot of um voiceover in these when she ends them,
41:00
Speaker 1: and you know, it's and just like that both times,
41:03
Speaker 1: it's very sobering, it's very sad, it's abrupt, yes, yes, yes,
41:08
Speaker 1: and very jarring. Yeah. So I think that's interesting, And
41:12
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that with the Little Black Dress.
41:14
Speaker 1: The title of the second episode where it's clearly a
41:18
Speaker 1: nod to to fashion, but also to you know, this
41:21
Speaker 1: grief and trying to deal with that in your and
41:29
Speaker 1: and move on. And I just touching on all this
41:31
Speaker 1: different stuff, And I thought that was interesting because I
41:33
Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of a nod too. A lot
41:36
Speaker 1: of the things that were huge and key and made
41:38
Speaker 1: the show what people loved about it, And part of
41:41
Speaker 1: that was fashion, um, but also like you know, funeral, uh,
41:47
Speaker 1: and trying to find that fashion for funeral. And there's
41:51
Speaker 1: just so many things in there that were very very sad,
41:53
Speaker 1: like when she's like in the closet, she hugs his
41:56
Speaker 1: jackets and like smells them. Oh my gosh. Oh. There's
42:00
Speaker 1: definitely a lot that seems very real. Because also we
42:04
Speaker 1: were talking about the fact that, yeah, they did, she
42:06
Speaker 1: did want that posh look for his funeral. Did not
42:11
Speaker 1: want to go to what looked like again Uptown was
42:15
Speaker 1: palacy type of funeral home. She wanted that black and
42:20
Speaker 1: white where I was like that was like an art
42:21
Speaker 1: space that was like and the fact that everybody was
42:25
Speaker 1: in high fashion, including you know, I think we talked
42:28
Speaker 1: about Missy von Muslin. I think it's her name. I
42:31
Speaker 1: keeps anything wrong who comes in that has a full
42:34
Speaker 1: on cape and you're like what, but she is an
42:36
Speaker 1: heiress or she is very rich, so like this makes sense, okay.
42:40
Speaker 1: But in then one of the other episodes, and I
42:42
Speaker 1: told you a little bit about it, there's two which
42:45
Speaker 1: deal with deaths and it's very like not comical but
42:48
Speaker 1: kind of used as comic plotline. And one of them
42:52
Speaker 1: is a designer who died and the entire audience is
42:57
Speaker 1: made up of people wearing his collection, which has now
43:00
Speaker 1: rippled in value like that, and then the other one
43:03
Speaker 1: is a really sad funeral and everybody's bringing in dates.
43:06
Speaker 1: But like there it was like all of Vogue editors
43:08
Speaker 1: and these people like that. It's just like the upper
43:11
Speaker 1: class of upper class of people. And she like comes
43:14
Speaker 1: in and she sees a big old secretary who actually says,
43:18
Speaker 1: you know, you look amazing. I love this outfit, and
43:19
Speaker 1: she's more like I want to make him proud. She's like,
43:21
Speaker 1: you did that, you did that in that essense of like, yeah,
43:24
Speaker 1: he was absolutely all about style too, not that he cared,
43:27
Speaker 1: but like he saw his suits like they are very
43:30
Speaker 1: on point, all of the brand um. And also I
43:33
Speaker 1: think again I had to be reminded because it's been
43:35
Speaker 1: a menace as I've seen all of it. As we
43:37
Speaker 1: were rewatching it. He did have a hard condition, so
43:40
Speaker 1: it wasn't so off point, like it is not so
43:44
Speaker 1: like out of left field that I'm like, oh, that
43:46
Speaker 1: that actually makes sense. I hate it, but this made sense.
43:51
Speaker 1: I didn't want it to make sense, but it does.
43:54
Speaker 1: And it's a part of that understanding that it happened.
43:58
Speaker 1: Now what do we do? Did it? I expected They've
44:01
Speaker 1: gone through so much hell and finally get to a
44:03
Speaker 1: point of being truly happy. And like his brother says
44:06
Speaker 1: that at the funeral, you know he was happy, and
44:09
Speaker 1: it's just like, uh yeah. And that was one line
44:14
Speaker 1: that um when carry says what do I do now? Know?
44:17
Speaker 1: What do I do now? Um truly resonated because I
44:23
Speaker 1: think that's it's kind of asking the question of like
44:25
Speaker 1: the show and like grappling with this and what is
44:29
Speaker 1: sex in the city now during our modern times? And
44:33
Speaker 1: we get to see Carrie sort of you know, trying
44:36
Speaker 1: to be like on a podcast or like you know,
44:38
Speaker 1: adapt her sex column to more modern formats and then
44:44
Speaker 1: asking these questions. Also, I thought it was interesting and
44:48
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people have had conversation about
44:50
Speaker 1: this about it's kind of the reverse of what we
44:54
Speaker 1: normally see where a woman dies and kicks off the
44:56
Speaker 1: whole story. This is a man dying and kicking off
44:59
Speaker 1: the plan one. Um. I know some people have kind
45:02
Speaker 1: of critiqued that and said, like, basically they we're getting
45:07
Speaker 1: out of showing problems in their marriage or something. But um,
45:11
Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting twist on it. Also, we
45:15
Speaker 1: have to touch on the age is um, because I
45:18
Speaker 1: would say that's probably one of the big things when
45:21
Speaker 1: when like the show was announced and when some of
45:24
Speaker 1: the first set pictures came out and the trailers came out,
45:27
Speaker 1: the internet at large was of course discussing their age,
45:31
Speaker 1: the work they had gotten done or hadn't gotten done. Um,
45:34
Speaker 1: you know, did they age well? And they did. In
45:37
Speaker 1: the very first episode they kind of addressed that, and
45:39
Speaker 1: it was one of those kind of icky scenes where
45:41
Speaker 1: Charlotte was like, I missed the red hair and Branda
45:44
Speaker 1: likede your hair and red and You're like, no, your
45:46
Speaker 1: hair looks so good, Brandon, Right, Yeah, I think that's
45:51
Speaker 1: the entire thing, the fact that there's a lot of
45:53
Speaker 1: questions in my head. There was a lot of because
45:55
Speaker 1: like a Carrie goes in for an interview for the podcast,
45:58
Speaker 1: which I find interesting. This wi them vote for Vogue.
46:01
Speaker 1: She had like two or three top bestseller lifestyle books
46:05
Speaker 1: that went international, and I'm like, couldn't she just have
46:09
Speaker 1: her own podcast? But maybe it's hard trying to come
46:13
Speaker 1: into the new age, or because she just not just
46:16
Speaker 1: all she did was books in the story, which she
46:19
Speaker 1: looks like she was preparing for with her infamous laptops
46:22
Speaker 1: that she likes, the type of one which we got
46:24
Speaker 1: to see that. I found that interesting. A B. People
46:27
Speaker 1: taking latent life changes. I adore that. I think they
46:31
Speaker 1: they're wonderful with that. Again, I love Miranda's hair altogether.
46:34
Speaker 1: But it is interesting to have Carrie talk about Instagram
46:37
Speaker 1: and posting on Instagram about different people's fashions and which
46:40
Speaker 1: I've actually seen in Instagram about New York fashion. There's
46:44
Speaker 1: one like that shows off New York fashions and then
46:47
Speaker 1: there's one that shows up Korean fashion in Japanese fashion,
46:50
Speaker 1: which are very interesting. I sound old just saying that,
46:53
Speaker 1: but yeah, like it. It's kind of interesting to see
46:56
Speaker 1: that take on them trying to keep up in their
46:58
Speaker 1: success or the latent life chains and what does that
47:00
Speaker 1: look like as you're navigating as an older woman, what
47:05
Speaker 1: does it do? But you afforded this because you have
47:07
Speaker 1: the money under the time, So wonderful, but can you
47:11
Speaker 1: actually fit in? Yes, yes, yes, chess um, And there's
47:15
Speaker 1: so much like we don't have time to go into.
47:17
Speaker 1: But they are continuing these conversations that we're having as
47:22
Speaker 1: we do this watch through series, but around like yeah, masturbation, um,
47:27
Speaker 1: like they're they're still asking those questions that are kind
47:29
Speaker 1: of familiar to the conversations they had in the original series.
47:34
Speaker 1: So I'm sure we'll have a lot more thoughts. I
47:37
Speaker 1: did want to include this quote from Kristin Davis, who
47:40
Speaker 1: plays Charlotte, who was asked about this kind of agism reaction.
47:45
Speaker 1: She said, I'm a woman in my fifties, so I'm
47:47
Speaker 1: well aware that your life does not end, whether you
47:49
Speaker 1: have find a guy or a girl or not, whether
47:51
Speaker 1: you have kids or not. Right, we can testify to
47:53
Speaker 1: the fact that it's not over and it's not boring.
47:55
Speaker 1: So I was never in doubt that we could tell
47:57
Speaker 1: interesting stories. Um. Yeah, and I'm interested to see how
48:01
Speaker 1: it goes. I enjoyed it, so one of our one
48:05
Speaker 1: of the things I'm curious about Miranda and Jay. I
48:09
Speaker 1: feel like there was some flirting. It does feel like
48:13
Speaker 1: that something was going on, yes, so I'm interested to
48:17
Speaker 1: see how that goes. I'm also Samantha and I discussed
48:20
Speaker 1: were like, IM not sure if Miranda is an alcoholic
48:23
Speaker 1: or if she's just really stressed. Not that you should
48:26
Speaker 1: drink going stressed, but I don't know. Interested to see
48:29
Speaker 1: about that. I think you're right, there's gonna be some
48:32
Speaker 1: Charlotte carry drama. Um, you got any thoughts or predictions
48:37
Speaker 1: for the future episodes. I think we're just gonna see
48:39
Speaker 1: her really really evolve herself, and maybe they're gonna see
48:43
Speaker 1: her for the first time just being her because again,
48:49
Speaker 1: a majority of the episodes and the show's previously were
48:52
Speaker 1: not I didn't revolve around men, but men were very
48:55
Speaker 1: heavily part of it, So maybe this isn't. This is
48:58
Speaker 1: kind of an awakening of her finding her off again
49:00
Speaker 1: in what it looks like to be without being a
49:03
Speaker 1: widow in this point, and I actually really do again
49:06
Speaker 1: want to appreciate that this is a a plot line
49:10
Speaker 1: and it's not, Uh, we've seen them before, but this
49:13
Speaker 1: is like the headline like the stars and one Who's here,
49:17
Speaker 1: and not that that doesn't happen a lot. We do
49:18
Speaker 1: see this happen a lot, but typically it involves horror
49:22
Speaker 1: movie stuff. So what I'm thinking on instead of everyday
49:26
Speaker 1: life stuff and seeing this and we've seen it, yes,
49:28
Speaker 1: people revolve around it, and then we've only seen the
49:31
Speaker 1: aftermath or I don't know, maybe they else shall end
49:34
Speaker 1: up having another relationship. I don't know. I kind of
49:37
Speaker 1: hope that it's not. I would like to see what
49:39
Speaker 1: it looks like for this conversation, which has always been
49:43
Speaker 1: finding the man of your dreams, to turn into being
49:48
Speaker 1: being single and it's okay, or being without a relationship,
49:51
Speaker 1: and it's okay because times have changed since the original
49:55
Speaker 1: to where we are and now women are afforded that
49:57
Speaker 1: and are happy with that. Like the second an option
50:00
Speaker 1: is to be married. First option is just be good
50:03
Speaker 1: and independent? So what does that look like? Not that
50:05
Speaker 1: she wasn't independent, but I would like to. I hope
50:07
Speaker 1: to see that a little bit, just to see her
50:09
Speaker 1: growth because I couldn't imagine her jumping into a relationship
50:12
Speaker 1: anytime soon. This is definitely not like a breakup. Um,
50:15
Speaker 1: So I see that and her core, like pushing herself
50:19
Speaker 1: and evolving and what that looks like. And I'm excited
50:22
Speaker 1: to see that. Yep, I see contention between Charlotte and
50:26
Speaker 1: her daughter and what that looks like. I'm interested to
50:30
Speaker 1: see where the Steve and Miranda plotline is because he
50:33
Speaker 1: is very heavily into I don't know what I would
50:36
Speaker 1: do if I lost you. So I feel like the
50:38
Speaker 1: first two episodes built up a lot of stuff that
50:41
Speaker 1: when we came back to her like, oh, okay, you
50:43
Speaker 1: were trying to be foreshadow that's rude. Um. I think
50:48
Speaker 1: that maybe that's something foreshadowing. I don't know, Yeah, I agree.
50:52
Speaker 1: I agree. Well, Samantha will have to hang out and
50:56
Speaker 1: watch them watch some more when they come out and
50:59
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51:02
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