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- 0:11Speaker 1: He's the report.
- 0:13Speaker 2: It well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report.
- 0:16Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson coming up tonight. Every other week we're
- 0:20Speaker 2: told that climate change is about to ruin something. This
- 0:22Speaker 2: week cricket is under threat from co two Rowan Dean
- 0:26Speaker 2: will be coming in on a long run up for
- 0:28Speaker 2: that one. Speaking of climate change. Parliament has been back
- 0:32Speaker 2: just one day and already there are leadership rumblings in
- 0:35Speaker 2: the Coalition as the fight overnet zero heats up. Job
- 0:38Speaker 2: bosses say ninety percent of unigraduates are unemployable. Can't communicate,
- 0:43Speaker 2: can't problem solve, can't work on a team, can spot
- 0:46Speaker 2: a microaggression though, I'll ask my panel if they're surprised.
- 0:50Speaker 2: And a new twist in the Jeffrey Epstein saga kosher
- 0:53Speaker 2: Gada is up soon. But first it should surprise no one,
- 0:58Speaker 2: least of all those poor souls clinging to the idea
- 1:01Speaker 2: of Australia as a single sovereign nation, that the Senate's
- 1:05Speaker 2: youngest member began her maiden speech not with a vision
- 1:08Speaker 2: for the nation, but with an acknowledgment of two hundred
- 1:11Speaker 2: and fifty different ones.
- 1:14Speaker 3: I begin by acknowledging the traditional owners of this sacred
- 1:17Speaker 3: and ancient land, and I pay respects to elder's past
- 1:21Speaker 3: and present. I also want to especially recognize first nations
- 1:25Speaker 3: emerging leaders from across the more than two hundred and
- 1:29Speaker 3: fifty nations of this continent.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Now, if you're surprised by twenty one year old Senator
- 1:35Speaker 2: Charlotte Walker's speech, it's only because you haven't been paying
- 1:38Speaker 2: attention to what passes for education in this country. Australian
- 1:42Speaker 2: schools no longer produce citizens. They manufacture climate anxious, gender fluid,
- 1:47Speaker 2: historically bewildered cultural ambassadors trained to apologize first and think later.
- 1:53Speaker 2: By year twelve, they can't tell you who Burke and
- 1:55Speaker 2: Wills were, but they can tell you in three languages
- 1:58Speaker 2: why they're personally responsible for colonial trauma. So we now
- 2:02Speaker 2: have a senator who speaks as though she's representing a
- 2:05Speaker 2: geopolitical version of Eurovision minus the sequence and catchy songs,
- 2:10Speaker 2: of course, rather than representing Australia. Okay, I'm exaggerating for
- 2:15Speaker 2: effect kind of, but seriously, when she acknowledged more than
- 2:18Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty nations, I couldn't help but think
- 2:22Speaker 2: that when you speak at a full assembly of the
- 2:24Speaker 2: United Nations. You don't acknowledge that many nations. It's not
- 2:28Speaker 2: Senator Walker's fault. Of course, we've taught kids for two
- 2:31Speaker 2: decades that Australia is illegitimate, that our national flag is offensive,
- 2:36Speaker 2: and that unity is actually oppressive. For example, the Tasmanian
- 2:40Speaker 2: Greens leader couldn't wait to tell her supporters last weekend
- 2:44Speaker 2: that she'd been re elected to a parliament that governed
- 2:47Speaker 2: land which had never been seeded, which of course would
- 2:50Speaker 2: be the same land on which her taxpayer funded office sits.
- 2:55Speaker 4: I wanted to start by acknowledging that Lutuia Tasmania's first
- 3:00Speaker 4: the Parlomer Parkener, who's shaped this island's landscape for tens
- 3:04Speaker 4: of thousands of years. The parlomer never ceded this island
- 3:08Speaker 4: to colonizes. Their land was taken in a violent dispossession.
- 3:16Speaker 2: But back to our education system, we've been replayal. Rather,
- 3:19Speaker 2: we've replaced civics with activism and history with identity politics.
- 3:24Speaker 2: So when graduates of this ideological finishing school eventually stumble
- 3:29Speaker 2: into the halls of power armed with I don't know,
- 3:32Speaker 2: reusable water bottles and righteous assurance, should we really be
- 3:36Speaker 2: surprised that they treat Australia not as a country to govern,
- 3:39Speaker 2: but as a kind of colonial crime scene. To dismantle
- 3:42Speaker 2: one acknowledgement of country at a time. The real shock
- 3:46Speaker 2: is not that Senator Walker acknowledges more than two hundred
- 3:49Speaker 2: and fifty nations. The shock is that she still acknowledges one,
- 3:53Speaker 2: which brings me neatly to one nation. The Political Party,
- 3:57Speaker 2: I mean Pauline Hanson. Senators drew sharp criticism after turning
- 4:01Speaker 2: their backs during an acknowledgment of country in the Senate Chamber.
- 4:05Speaker 2: I have to say that while I sympathize with their sentiment,
- 4:08Speaker 2: in fact I support their sentiment, I didn't like their response.
- 4:12Speaker 2: The whole point of the Senate Chamber is to make
- 4:14Speaker 2: a coherent counter argument, not to mime your disapproval. Housing
- 4:19Speaker 2: Minister Claire O'Neill was quick to condemn the one nation
- 4:22Speaker 2: senators have a.
- 4:22Speaker 5: Listen, whatever your views about the welcome to country, we've
- 4:26Speaker 5: got first nations people who have been invited to come
- 4:29Speaker 5: to our Parliament to extend that hand of friendship and
- 4:32Speaker 5: invite us, you know, and talk about that sixty five
- 4:35Speaker 5: thousand years of heritage that they bring to our beautiful,
- 4:37Speaker 5: great country of Australia, and to treat people that way
- 4:41Speaker 5: on the first day of Parliament, I think it was
- 4:43Speaker 5: absolutely appalling right.
- 4:46Speaker 2: So clar O'Neil began magnanimously enough, whatever your views are
- 4:50Speaker 2: on welcome to country. That quickly transitioned into you allowed
- 4:54Speaker 2: your opinions as long as it's identical to mine. She
- 4:57Speaker 2: went on to say that First Nations people were invited
- 4:59Speaker 2: to Parliament to extend a hand of friendship. What does
- 5:04Speaker 2: that even mean? Aren't these First Nations people our fellow
- 5:08Speaker 2: Australians And if they're extending a hand of friendship, the
- 5:11Speaker 2: implication is that we're not already friends. And they were
- 5:16Speaker 2: in Parliament to invite us, She said, to what to
- 5:20Speaker 2: hold our illegitimate parliament? And one more thing, the one
- 5:24Speaker 2: Nation senators didn't turn their back on First Nations people
- 5:27Speaker 2: in the public gallery or anywhere else, and clar O'Neill
- 5:30Speaker 2: knows that full well. They turned their backs on a
- 5:33Speaker 2: political performance that's designed not to unite but to continually
- 5:38Speaker 2: reinforce division. And they turned their back on a political
- 5:41Speaker 2: class who divide us while telling us there's something wrong
- 5:45Speaker 2: with us if we suspect that they're trying to divide us.
- 5:48Speaker 6: It is not controversial today, nor should it be. It
- 5:53Speaker 6: is a respectful way of us beginning our deliberations here
- 6:00Speaker 6: in Canberra, which of course means meeting place.
- 6:06Speaker 2: Nothing controversial about welcome to country. That's peak gas lighting
- 6:11Speaker 2: right there. One last thing. Watching twenty one year old
- 6:15Speaker 2: Charlotte Walker give her acknowledgment of country yesterday, I couldn't
- 6:18Speaker 2: help but think about the Teals and the Greens calling
- 6:20Speaker 2: for sixteen year olds to be given the vote. Just
- 6:24Speaker 2: imagine the shape of the Senate after a decade of
- 6:27Speaker 2: sixteen year olds casting votes on polling day. This is
- 6:30Speaker 2: the future. Our elite class is salivating over a nation
- 6:33Speaker 2: not united, but divided into hundreds of nations, each with flags,
- 6:37Speaker 2: and each with their own demands, and presumably each with
- 6:40Speaker 2: a Minister for historical grievance. The twenty one year old
- 6:44Speaker 2: senator is not the problem. She's obviously very brightened. I
- 6:47Speaker 2: wish her well, But she is the logical conclusion of
- 6:51Speaker 2: a system that treats the idea of one Australia as quaint,
- 6:55Speaker 2: colonial and deeply offensive. She's not a cautionary tale. She's
- 6:59Speaker 2: the blue print. And if the voting age drops to sixteen,
- 7:03Speaker 2: we'll buckle up for more of the same ad nauseum. Well,
- 7:11Speaker 2: more than half of Australians now get most of their
- 7:14Speaker 2: income from the government, whether by working for it, collecting
- 7:18Speaker 2: welfare or milking subsidies. That's according to a report from
- 7:21Speaker 2: the Center for Independent Studies. Now, of course, we know
- 7:25Speaker 2: the NDIS alone costs fifty two billion dollars, making us
- 7:29Speaker 2: global leaders in bureaucratic benevolence. The childcare subsidies, well they've
- 7:33Speaker 2: doubled to fourteen billion dollars in just seven years. And
- 7:37Speaker 2: I don't have time to list all the freebies promised
- 7:39Speaker 2: by the Albanese government in the lead up to the election,
- 7:42Speaker 2: butough I should mention. Of course, the very first thing
- 7:44Speaker 2: this government did today was to forgive sixteen billion dollars
- 7:48Speaker 2: in student debt. I've got an update on this.
- 7:53Speaker 6: We said it would be the first thing that we do,
- 7:56Speaker 6: and today we're making it happen. We're introducing our station
- 8:00Speaker 6: to cut your student debt by twenty percent. No application,
- 8:05Speaker 6: no forms, just real help with your student debt.
- 8:10Speaker 2: But it gets more expensive than that. Eighty percent of
- 8:13Speaker 2: jobs in this country created in the past two years
- 8:16Speaker 2: we're in what's called the non market center. Those are
- 8:19Speaker 2: jobs that rely heavily upon government subsidies, all of which
- 8:23Speaker 2: means we're not so much a nation of workers anymore
- 8:28Speaker 2: as we are I don't know contestants in a taxpayer
- 8:30Speaker 2: funded lolly scramble. Joining me is former New South Wales
- 8:34Speaker 2: Treasurer Michael Costa and GXO Strategies director Cameron Milner. Michael,
- 8:39Speaker 2: how do we end up in a situation where the
- 8:42Speaker 2: majority of Australians are now dependent on the state.
- 8:47Speaker 7: Well, I think that report actually exaggerates the dependency ratio. Look,
- 8:51Speaker 7: we do have a problem because I mean people taking
- 8:53Speaker 7: subsidies for electricity and everything else is really, to me,
- 8:58Speaker 7: not the real issue. The real issue is the fact
- 9:00Speaker 7: that we have more and more people because of an
- 9:02Speaker 7: aging population.
- 9:03Speaker 1: By the way, the intergenerational.
- 9:05Speaker 7: Reports that I undertook and Peter Costello did the first
- 9:08Speaker 7: one showed that this was clearly going to be the
- 9:10Speaker 7: case in the timeframe that we're currently in.
- 9:14Speaker 1: You know, for every hundred.
- 9:15Speaker 7: People that work, there's probably around fifty five that are
- 9:20Speaker 7: dependent on those hundred people, and that's going to get
- 9:23Speaker 7: worse over time. Some of those people are young, people,
- 9:25Speaker 7: and of course a lot of them are aging people,
- 9:28Speaker 7: older people that are part of the aging population. The
- 9:31Speaker 7: issue for me is the underlying productivity. How do you
- 9:35Speaker 7: fund and keep a tax spase in place that can
- 9:39Speaker 7: actually support all of this And the answer is you
- 9:41Speaker 7: can't and that's the challenge we face, and that's why
- 9:44Speaker 7: the Treasurer is scrambling around with silly things like the
- 9:47Speaker 7: unrealized capital gains tax to try and fill that hole.
- 9:51Speaker 7: But you're right, governments have used subsidies and handouts to
- 9:57Speaker 7: shore up their electrical position and that's what you're seeing
- 9:59Speaker 7: with their hex arrangements, the childcare arrangements, and also the
- 10:05Speaker 7: abuse in the ndis. So yeah, we've got a major
- 10:08Speaker 7: problem and nobody's really addressing the core. And the core
- 10:12Speaker 7: is how do we get our productivity out and get
- 10:14Speaker 7: a tax system that works for Australians rather than forces
- 10:16Speaker 7: them into dependency.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Will you bring me neatly to my next question, Cameron,
- 10:23Speaker 2: This is obviously not sustainable, but how do you have
- 10:26Speaker 2: a wind backer system that requires a large number of
- 10:29Speaker 2: Australians to vote against their own personal interests.
- 10:34Speaker 8: Well that's the trap, isn't it. That's the big trap
- 10:36Speaker 8: that the left like to put on Australian politics, which is,
- 10:39Speaker 8: oh well, if you're getting getting a hand out, you
- 10:41Speaker 8: can't possibly vote against it. The reality is that we
- 10:43Speaker 8: are in a situation where too much debt not enough productivity. Michael,
- 10:47Speaker 8: you're exactly right. We need to increase productivity in this nation.
- 10:49Speaker 8: But too many people are eligible for too much care.
- 10:52Speaker 8: That's the reality. I wouldn't begrudge anyone in age care.
- 10:54Speaker 8: They pay their tax all their life. They've got a
- 10:56Speaker 8: pension and an age care system, so I wouldn't touch that.
- 10:58Speaker 8: But indis there are two many people will try to
- 11:00Speaker 8: get eligible for that. There are too many children on
- 11:02Speaker 8: NDAs who just need to be taught properly at school,
- 11:05Speaker 8: and there's too many people in middle class welfare with
- 11:08Speaker 8: their handout for childcare. It's a mendic at state and
- 11:10Speaker 8: we can't afford it.
- 11:14Speaker 2: If the government wants to get spending under control, here's
- 11:16Speaker 2: an idea. They could start by winding back our commitment
- 11:19Speaker 2: to net zero by twenty fifty. That's a policy that's
- 11:22Speaker 2: costing us a bomb for zero gain. Nationals big hitters
- 11:26Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce and Michael McCormack have seemingly teamed up in
- 11:29Speaker 2: an effort to repeal net zero. Barnaby Joyce insists net
- 11:33Speaker 2: zero is a crazy idea.
- 11:34Speaker 9: Here he is the head of the serpent on this
- 11:38Speaker 9: is net zero. It's trying to attain this crazy idea
- 11:42Speaker 9: that Australia by itself, because remember, China's not doing this,
- 11:45Speaker 9: India is not doing it. So what's the point of
- 11:47Speaker 9: us doing this if the rest of the majority of
- 11:49Speaker 9: the world, majority of the economies of the world, are
- 11:51Speaker 9: not doing it.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Now he's going to introduce a private member's bill to
- 11:54Speaker 2: scrap net zero, and McCormick says that he will vote
- 11:59Speaker 2: for Joyce's bill, declaring the push for net zero has
- 12:02Speaker 2: been damaging for rural communities. On top of that, he
- 12:05Speaker 2: told sky News earlier today that the majority of Nationals
- 12:08Speaker 2: MPs agree with him.
- 12:11Speaker 8: Do you think the majority of your partyer and colleagues
- 12:13Speaker 8: agree with Barnaby and you.
- 12:15Speaker 1: I'd like to think so. I'm repealing the toil, I'd
- 12:17Speaker 1: love to think.
- 12:17Speaker 2: So, Michael Costa. The bill that Barnaby moves will fail
- 12:21Speaker 2: because no one from Labour certainly will back it, but
- 12:24Speaker 2: it puts the argument about net zero front and center
- 12:27Speaker 2: for the coalition parties, doesn't.
- 12:28Speaker 7: It Well, look, I don't even think that bill will
- 12:33Speaker 7: make it into the Parliament. I mean, you know, there's
- 12:34Speaker 7: a whole process that you've got to go through before
- 12:36Speaker 7: you even get it discussed. So don't be surprised that
- 12:39Speaker 7: doesn't happen. But look, I said from the moment the
- 12:43Speaker 7: Coalition lost the elections that the Nationals or to take
- 12:46Speaker 7: this very position. I mean, you know, they held all
- 12:48Speaker 7: their seats and they ran with a policy against net zero,
- 12:52Speaker 7: So I think that's the right decision for them. As
- 12:55Speaker 7: for the Liberal Party, I can't see any way they're
- 12:57Speaker 7: going to get themselves out of net zero, given particularly
- 13:01Speaker 7: the leadership. You know, Susan Lays from the left. You know,
- 13:05Speaker 7: he's got people like Matt Green as we used to
- 13:08Speaker 7: call him. Matt Kean's heading up the Climate Change Authority
- 13:10Speaker 7: and he's a factional colleague of the Susan Lee and
- 13:15Speaker 7: the Left. So I don't see anything happening in that area.
- 13:18Speaker 7: It's going to lead to the de industrialization of Australia,
- 13:20Speaker 7: There's no doubt about that when you look at that
- 13:23Speaker 7: policy plus the ir changes, you know, the pattern bargaining
- 13:27Speaker 7: that's come back in and now this unrealized capital gains mess,
- 13:31Speaker 7: You're going to find a situation where nobody's going to
- 13:33Speaker 7: invest in this country.
- 13:36Speaker 2: Let me just stay on the net zero issue for
- 13:38Speaker 2: a moment, because I'm trying to figure out where all
- 13:39Speaker 2: of our leaders in the coalition are going to land.
- 13:42Speaker 2: Nationals leader David Little Proud he threw fuel on the
- 13:45Speaker 2: fire today, not declaring his position, but at the same
- 13:49Speaker 2: time saying that zero was quote impossible. He told journalists
- 13:53Speaker 2: he's not made up his mind, but he said that
- 13:56Speaker 2: zero was and I quote an ideology that is not
- 13:59Speaker 2: going to sustain an energy grid. Cameron, firstly, is he right?
- 14:04Speaker 2: And having said that he couldn't possibly go to the
- 14:07Speaker 2: next election supporting that zero, could he No?
- 14:11Speaker 8: And I think Michael's point is right. I mean the
- 14:13Speaker 8: Nationals held all their seats and actually had a sensible
- 14:16Speaker 8: position on climate change. I mean, farmers know that the
- 14:18Speaker 8: climate is changing. It's how we get there, It's whether
- 14:21Speaker 8: you actually have a strict net zero by twenty fifty
- 14:23Speaker 8: policies of the government's not even going to keep We're
- 14:25Speaker 8: going to miss our twenty thirty target. We're going to
- 14:26Speaker 8: impose even higher twenty thirty five target. And I hope
- 14:30Speaker 8: that we're going to get there. We're missing these targets
- 14:32Speaker 8: even as we're cruling our own economy to do it.
- 14:35Speaker 8: The reality is that we aren't making the transition work
- 14:38Speaker 8: in time. It's costing us more and more than it should.
- 14:40Speaker 8: Grid transmission itself is costing as well. We need to
- 14:43Speaker 8: actually get sensible about the rate of change, the rate
- 14:46Speaker 8: of transition, because renewables got a place, nuclear has got
- 14:48Speaker 8: a place, and at the end of the day, we
- 14:50Speaker 8: actually need to have a better energy mix. And to
- 14:52Speaker 8: your point, Michael and James, we need to bring down
- 14:54Speaker 8: the cost of doing business in Australia so we continue
- 14:56Speaker 8: to make things in Australia.
- 15:00Speaker 2: Okay, So if the Nationals party move away from net
- 15:02Speaker 2: zero and say look, we can't support that, what does
- 15:06Speaker 2: that mean for the coalition? If the Nationals ditch net zero,
- 15:09Speaker 2: how do they walk hand in hand with their Liberal partners? Michael?
- 15:13Speaker 2: The coalition parties can differ on various policies, sure, but
- 15:16Speaker 2: I would have thought net zero because it impacts absolutely
- 15:20Speaker 2: every area of life. That's not something you can simply
- 15:23Speaker 2: agree to disagree on, is it.
- 15:25Speaker 7: I think you can, and I think that's where it'll end.
- 15:28Speaker 7: Up because I cannot see the Liberal Party walking away
- 15:30Speaker 7: from net zero. Look, they've got the problem of the tels,
- 15:34Speaker 7: of course, and you know you've got a left wing
- 15:38Speaker 7: leader of the Liberal Party, you've got a majority probably
- 15:41Speaker 7: left wing caucus of the Liberal Party to get her up,
- 15:44Speaker 7: and you've got the pressure of the tools. I can't
- 15:46Speaker 7: see them walking away from net zero. What they could do,
- 15:50Speaker 7: I suppose, is run an argument, as Cameron just said,
- 15:53Speaker 7: that you're slow down the pace of it. But even
- 15:55Speaker 7: that I think is too far for them to go,
- 15:57Speaker 7: given the political pressures they face in those to your seat.
- 16:01Speaker 7: So I think you're going to find a difference of position.
- 16:03Speaker 7: It's not the first time they've had differences of position
- 16:06Speaker 7: on specific issues, so I could see a muddling through
- 16:10Speaker 7: is probably the way they're going to go.
- 16:14Speaker 2: Well, Cameron, The trouble I have with Susan Lee is
- 16:18Speaker 2: she seems to be saying two contradictory things. She has
- 16:21Speaker 2: said that she believes in bringing down emissions. She also
- 16:26Speaker 2: said she believes in cheap, reliable energy. Well, aren't those
- 16:29Speaker 2: two things in direct conflict that's playing out right before
- 16:33Speaker 2: our eyes.
- 16:35Speaker 8: They needn't be, because you know, other European economies. You know,
- 16:38Speaker 8: nineteen of the twenty g twenty nations have got nuclear power. Now,
- 16:41Speaker 8: the problem for nuclear power is that labor's weaponize that
- 16:44Speaker 8: and labor's got an ideological objection to it. So that's
- 16:47Speaker 8: a problem to their energie mix. But no, I mean
- 16:49Speaker 8: the mix of gas and renewables should actually provide cheap,
- 16:52Speaker 8: reliable power across the twenty four hours we need. The
- 16:56Speaker 8: problem with coal, and I am a big endoorso of coal,
- 16:58Speaker 8: is that no one's investing in it. So our generation
- 17:01Speaker 8: capacity is getting older and older, and there is no
- 17:03Speaker 8: new money going into new generators. It's going towards gas
- 17:06Speaker 8: and renewables. So that's going to be the mix I think, James,
- 17:09Speaker 8: of where we go for energy in the future.
- 17:13Speaker 2: I'll be fascinating to see how they resolve those conflicts
- 17:16Speaker 2: within the coalition. Just before I let you both go,
- 17:19Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about child protection issues.
- 17:22Speaker 2: They've dominated the news over the past couple of weeks,
- 17:24Speaker 2: obviously after those horrific allegations of abuse in a number
- 17:27Speaker 2: of centers. But Victoria's former Commissioner for Children and Young People,
- 17:32Speaker 2: the Arna Buchanan, has said she warned the Victorian government
- 17:36Speaker 2: three years ago that children were likely to be abused
- 17:40Speaker 2: unless the state's Reportable Conduct scheme was properly funded, and
- 17:44Speaker 2: she said for three years she'd been telling them it's
- 17:47Speaker 2: not funded properly. We're getting all these complaints, we can't
- 17:50Speaker 2: possibly keep track of them all, she says. The government
- 17:53Speaker 2: just ignored her warning and now, as predicted, the system
- 17:58Speaker 2: allegedly has failed to pick up on red flags raised
- 18:01Speaker 2: over Joshua Dale Brown, the alleged Melbourne childcare pedophile. Michael
- 18:06Speaker 2: This is a new loaf of the Victorian labor government,
- 18:09Speaker 2: isn't it to find out they've been warned for three
- 18:12Speaker 2: years they needed to invest in this and just ignored that.
- 18:16Speaker 7: I absolutely agree. And they're wasting money all over the
- 18:19Speaker 7: place on projects that are never going to get off
- 18:21Speaker 7: the ground properly. Yet they won't do this. There should
- 18:24Speaker 7: be a judicial inquiry into this. It is so fundamentally important.
- 18:29Speaker 7: And the other factor, of course that feeds into this
- 18:32Speaker 7: is all these child's care subsidies we were just talking about,
- 18:34Speaker 7: which is just increasing the demand for childcare at a
- 18:37Speaker 7: time when the system can't even process the people that
- 18:40Speaker 7: are supposed to be working in it to protect the children.
- 18:42Speaker 7: So I think there needs to be a Victorian judicial
- 18:44Speaker 7: inquiry into whether this was a warning that was giving
- 18:48Speaker 7: and why the government failed, and then some responsibility taken,
- 18:52Speaker 7: either for ministers resigning or proper compensation arrangements, and a
- 18:56Speaker 7: guarantee of the public that this won't happen again.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Absolutely, Michael Cameron really appreciate you joining me tonight, Thanks
- 19:05Speaker 2: so much.
- 19:06Speaker 10: Well.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Rowan Dean joins me after the break. We'll talk about
- 19:09Speaker 2: a new report that says climate change is an existential
- 19:13Speaker 2: threat to cricket. Can you believe it? Plus Kamala Harris
- 19:17Speaker 2: celebrates a very strange anniversary. Rowan Dean up in just
- 19:21Speaker 2: a moment. Well, the latest victim of climate change, apparently
- 19:29Speaker 2: is cricket. A report commissioned by the British Association for
- 19:32Speaker 2: Sustainability in Sport whatever that means, solemnly warns that rising
- 19:37Speaker 2: temperatures are placing increased strain on cricket players' bodies. According
- 19:43Speaker 2: to the report, forget concerns around different formats, TV deals
- 19:48Speaker 2: or the battle for eyeballs in a multi screen age.
- 19:51Speaker 2: This challenge is an existential one and it comes in
- 19:54Speaker 2: the form of a rapidly changing climate Now call me crazy,
- 19:58Speaker 2: but I would have thought the real threat to cricket
- 20:00Speaker 2: was that no one under fifty can stay awake through
- 20:02Speaker 2: a Test match. But no, it's global warming. Although on reflection,
- 20:08Speaker 2: maybe this isn't all bad. I mean, if batsmen are
- 20:11Speaker 2: too hot to run, maybe they'll swing harder for the boundary.
- 20:15Speaker 2: So climate change may yet be cricket savior. Less jogging,
- 20:18Speaker 2: more slogging. See that every carbon cloud has a silver lining.
- 20:22Speaker 2: Now to open the batting on this topic, I'm joined
- 20:25Speaker 2: by Sky News host Rowan Dean, who of course hosts
- 20:28Speaker 2: Outsiders and The Rowan Dean Show on Friday nights. Rowan,
- 20:32Speaker 2: I have to admit, of all the things endangered by
- 20:35Speaker 2: climate change, cricket was not something I had on my list.
- 20:40Speaker 1: Well, don't worry.
- 20:40Speaker 11: I can put your mind at rest, James. This report
- 20:44Speaker 11: is pure satire. You enjoy writing satire. I enjoy writing satura.
- 20:48Speaker 11: But no satire comes as close as this report to
- 20:52Speaker 11: just being side splitting stuff. It's full of all the puns,
- 20:55Speaker 11: which is good. I always like a good pun. So
- 20:57Speaker 11: there's stuff about climate is the ultimate test, and we're
- 21:01Speaker 11: going to be hit for six. Our game is going
- 21:03Speaker 11: to be hit because of climate change and all this stuff.
- 21:06Speaker 11: But the one pun they didn't use is ball tampering.
- 21:09Speaker 11: And what this report is, it's full of ball tampering, James.
- 21:13Speaker 11: In fact, it's report.
- 21:14Speaker 1: Tampering and data tampering.
- 21:17Speaker 11: And they've taken all little few facts here and there,
- 21:20Speaker 11: and a few temperatures here.
- 21:22Speaker 1: Did you know, for instance, James, that.
- 21:24Speaker 11: There are forty six days in Pakistan or India or
- 21:29Speaker 11: somewhere out of that are over every year that are
- 21:31Speaker 11: over thirty seven degrees celsius And there were fifty two
- 21:36Speaker 11: last year. Now if you think that sounds horrific and
- 21:39Speaker 11: desperately hot and all rest, the report also mentions that
- 21:42Speaker 11: there are forty six days in Australia which are.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Over thirty seven as well.
- 21:46Speaker 11: I can't remember them in Sydney so and I can't
- 21:49Speaker 11: remember them in any recent summer more than half a dozen.
- 21:53Speaker 1: But anyway, so here's my solution.
- 21:54Speaker 11: For this mob and it seems to be focused on
- 21:57Speaker 11: India and Pakistan as the great All great climate change
- 22:01Speaker 11: reports are always based James, somewhere that you haven't actually
- 22:04Speaker 11: been or are going to. That's the beauty of them.
- 22:06Speaker 11: It's somewhere else, somewhere else. That's why the Poms love
- 22:09Speaker 11: the Great Barrier Reef. Climate scare among ring but in
- 22:12Speaker 11: this instance apparently India and Pakistans where they're dropping like
- 22:15Speaker 11: flies because of climate change.
- 22:17Speaker 1: I've got a solution to the problem.
- 22:19Speaker 11: And the problem is we bring all the Indian and
- 22:21Speaker 11: Pakistani cricket players out to Australia, to Sydney. I mean,
- 22:25Speaker 11: we're bringing loads of Indians and Pakistani in anyway, so
- 22:28Speaker 11: why don't we just choose the cricket players instead.
- 22:31Speaker 1: We've got some beautiful cricket fields here.
- 22:34Speaker 11: We don't have fifty two days over thirty seven degrees
- 22:37Speaker 11: a year, certainly not in Sydney. But we do have
- 22:39Speaker 11: one of the great great Australian inventions for when it
- 22:42Speaker 11: does get a bit hot on the cricket field. It's
- 22:44Speaker 11: called the hill and amber nectar amber fluid, and you
- 22:48Speaker 11: can sit on the hill, you can drink your medicinal
- 22:50Speaker 11: anti climate change amber fluid and enjoy the cricket and
- 22:53Speaker 11: not get too hot and bothered.
- 22:55Speaker 2: There's my solution, the only way to enjoy test cricket own.
- 23:00Speaker 2: I want to talk about the United States. They've decided
- 23:03Speaker 2: to quit membership of the World Heritage Site Organization UNESCO.
- 23:07Speaker 2: The Trump organization says it's not in America's interest to
- 23:10Speaker 2: remain involved, specifically because UNESCO is they say, anti Israel
- 23:15Speaker 2: and continually pushes a woke agenda. His US State Department
- 23:18Speaker 2: spokeswoman Tammy Bruce, explaining the decision.
- 23:22Speaker 12: UNESCO works to advance divisive social and cultural causes and
- 23:26Speaker 12: maintains an outsized focus on the Yuan sustainable development goals,
- 23:31Speaker 12: a globalist ideological agenda for international development. At odds with
- 23:36Speaker 12: our America First foreign policy, UNESCO's decision to admit the
- 23:41Speaker 12: quote State of Palestine end quote as a member state
- 23:45Speaker 12: is highly problematic, contrary to US policy, and contributed to
- 23:50Speaker 12: the proliferation of anti Israel rhetoric within the organization.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Rowin two questions for you. First, is it a good
- 23:57Speaker 2: decision by the Trump administration And if it is, why
- 24:00Speaker 2: is Australia still part of UNESCO.
- 24:03Speaker 11: Well, it's a great decision and well done to America.
- 24:06Speaker 11: Trump is leading the way on so many things. We're
- 24:09Speaker 11: too busy burning gum leaves to welcome people to our
- 24:12Speaker 11: parliament house to worry about things like this, But this
- 24:15Speaker 11: is critical a grown up government, which we will get
- 24:18Speaker 11: one day. I'm not sure when, but a grown up
- 24:19Speaker 11: government will make sure we pull out of UNESCO, the
- 24:22Speaker 11: World Health Organization, lots of these other globalist bodies, World
- 24:25Speaker 11: Economic Forum and others which have done far more harm
- 24:28Speaker 11: than they do good. The idea of UNESCO and the
- 24:31Speaker 11: idea of World Heritage Science, that we look after special
- 24:34Speaker 11: places in Australia, obviously the Great Barrier Reef, the Opera
- 24:38Speaker 11: House and so on, is a great idea, but as
- 24:41Speaker 11: Tammy Bruce pointed out, it has become so heavily politicized.
- 24:45Speaker 11: State of Palestine, et cetera, et cetera, and the politics
- 24:49Speaker 11: the march through the institutions, the Neo Marxist march through
- 24:54Speaker 11: the institutions that's taken place over the last twenty thirty years,
- 24:57Speaker 11: has particularly taken place in all these big international global organizations.
- 25:02Speaker 11: That's where the socialists, the communists, the Neo Marxists are
- 25:05Speaker 11: most at home, fat salaries, sitting around telling the rest
- 25:08Speaker 11: of the world what to do.
- 25:10Speaker 1: They have become so corrupted.
- 25:12Speaker 11: But if you look at the UNESCO site for Australia, James,
- 25:15Speaker 11: and this shows just how political it all is.
- 25:18Speaker 1: You go, yeah, great Barrier Reef, as I said terrific.
- 25:20Speaker 11: You go Sydney, O Brown's great, and then you start
- 25:23Speaker 11: to look for places you would think would be worth
- 25:26Speaker 11: looking after, and you see a bunch of names and
- 25:28Speaker 11: words that you're not familiar with, and of course it's
- 25:30Speaker 11: all being politicized. So instead of Mount Eckles, you've got
- 25:34Speaker 11: Bungey Gym or something or other. Instead of here, you've
- 25:36Speaker 11: got something else. So we've already had UNESCO renaming everything
- 25:41Speaker 11: to indigenous names. They're already playing politics with Australia. We
- 25:44Speaker 11: should pull out and say farewell. Thanks, you did a
- 25:46Speaker 11: great job in the seventies. Your time's been and gone.
- 25:49Speaker 11: We don't need all this woke rubbish.
- 25:53Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. Now, Rowan, I'm not sure
- 25:56Speaker 2: if you realize, but today is an important anniversary. I
- 25:59Speaker 2: don't know if you had it in your calendar, but
- 26:01Speaker 2: at least for Kamala Harris, it's an important anniversary. It's
- 26:05Speaker 2: exactly one year ago today that the former US Vice
- 26:08Speaker 2: president launched her ill fated presidential bid. Now I'm not
- 26:12Speaker 2: sure why you'd celebrate abject failure, but she's been posting
- 26:15Speaker 2: on Twitter quote unquote one year ago today, I began
- 26:19Speaker 2: my campaign for President of the United States. Over the
- 26:22Speaker 2: one hundred and seven days of our race, I had
- 26:24Speaker 2: the opportunity in honor to travel our nation and meet
- 26:26Speaker 2: with Americans who were fighting for a better future. Pity
- 26:29Speaker 2: none of those Americans she met for that better future
- 26:32Speaker 2: involved her, but Rowan. She spent a billion dollars in
- 26:35Speaker 2: three months to lose in a landslide. Why is she's
- 26:39Speaker 2: celebrating a year on.
- 26:42Speaker 11: Well, I'm glad we didn't spend the billion dollars, James,
- 26:44Speaker 11: But it is actually a billion dollars well spent and
- 26:48Speaker 11: worth the spending. And I'll explain why. Over the last
- 26:50Speaker 11: twenty or thirty years, we've had the whole concept of
- 26:53Speaker 11: diversity and inclusion dei hires they're called. There are people,
- 26:57Speaker 11: and there's many of them, many people people we all know.
- 27:00Speaker 1: We may be them ourselves, we don't know, but we know.
- 27:03Speaker 11: Many people who suspect have an inkling in the back
- 27:06Speaker 11: of their head. Maybe I only got this job because
- 27:08Speaker 11: I'm a woman. Maybe I only got this job because
- 27:10Speaker 11: I'm an ex color you know, gay, or this this
- 27:14Speaker 11: gender or whatever. Or maybe I only got this job
- 27:16Speaker 11: for some other reason, the color of my skin or
- 27:19Speaker 11: whatever it might be So there's plenty of people who
- 27:22Speaker 11: have that nagging feeling at the back of their mind,
- 27:24Speaker 11: but we've never really known how do you identify a
- 27:27Speaker 11: DEI candidate. And what we've learned with Kamala Harris because
- 27:31Speaker 11: she is officially a DEI candidate. She's the first one
- 27:34Speaker 11: where Joe Biden said I will employ a black woman,
- 27:38Speaker 11: so double tick, black and woman as my vice president.
- 27:42Speaker 1: He said that before he even picked any names out
- 27:44Speaker 1: of that.
- 27:44Speaker 11: So we know she is an official DEI candidate and
- 27:47Speaker 11: as such, she was there for an official DI candidate
- 27:50Speaker 11: for presidency. But what we learned chains is that if
- 27:54Speaker 11: Sundi candidates are so deish that they don't actually recognize
- 27:59Speaker 11: they're a DI candidate. And that's the real danger when
- 28:02Speaker 11: you're a DEI pick, but you don't even realize you're
- 28:05Speaker 11: a DEI pick, and we've now learned from Kamala Harrison
- 28:07Speaker 11: that goes terribly terribly wrong if you don't realize you're
- 28:11Speaker 11: only there because you were a DEI pick. So I
- 28:13Speaker 11: think it was a lesson well worth learning. Nobody in
- 28:16Speaker 11: America was interested in her. They only turned up to
- 28:18Speaker 11: her rallies to see if Beyonce was there and when
- 28:21Speaker 11: Beyonce didn't sing, they all went home anyway, disgruntled. Hardly
- 28:24Speaker 11: anybody voted for her. There were no primary, she never
- 28:27Speaker 11: went through a primary to get there in the first place,
- 28:29Speaker 11: and most of the states didn't vote for it.
- 28:31Speaker 1: They went for Trump. So here's the proof, DEEI does
- 28:34Speaker 1: not work. Thank you, Kamala. It was worth a billion
- 28:37Speaker 1: dollars to find out.
- 28:40Speaker 2: Well, said Roll, I've got to go, But just quickly,
- 28:42Speaker 2: I have to ask you, just in one minute, you
- 28:45Speaker 2: would have been watching all the shenanigans with the Coalition
- 28:48Speaker 2: Barbabie Joyce, Michael McCormack, David Little Proud, Susan Lee's trying
- 28:51Speaker 2: to work out what to do with net zero. Where
- 28:54Speaker 2: do you think the Coalition are going to land on
- 28:55Speaker 2: this thing?
- 28:57Speaker 11: Well, I have to disagree with Mike Glenn Cameron, who
- 28:59Speaker 11: you had on before. If the Coalition don't oppose net zero,
- 29:03Speaker 11: they are finished as a political party.
- 29:06Speaker 1: The Nats know it.
- 29:06Speaker 11: They've woken up and realized that Barnaby and McCormick and others.
- 29:10Speaker 11: Matt Canavan's been aware of this for a long time.
- 29:12Speaker 11: The Nats know it because they're connected to the Land
- 29:15Speaker 11: and anyone who's connected to the land knows that net zero.
- 29:18Speaker 1: Is a complete face. It's a fantasy.
- 29:20Speaker 11: It's an inner city undergraduate socialist fantasy, utopian kind of thing.
- 29:24Speaker 11: It will never work, it's a waste of money, and
- 29:27Speaker 11: it's destroying our economy and destroying our land. So the
- 29:29Speaker 11: Nats know it in their bones. The coalition know it.
- 29:33Speaker 11: I guarantee you every single member of the Liberal Party
- 29:36Speaker 11: know absolutely that net zero is BS and that they
- 29:41Speaker 11: know that we are never going to get to net zero,
- 29:43Speaker 11: and they know that we shouldn't be trying. But they
- 29:45Speaker 11: are such cowards and they are in the pockets are
- 29:49Speaker 11: the most disgraceful and disgusting lobbyists in the Australia, corrupting
- 29:53Speaker 11: the Australian political system in ways that you can't imagine.
- 29:57Speaker 11: It sickens me and it should sicken every Liberal voter.
- 30:00Speaker 11: Until the Liberal Party say no to net zero, they
- 30:02Speaker 11: are not worth voting for. They are Charlatan's frauds. And seriously, James,
- 30:08Speaker 11: they have to for the sake of the Great Party
- 30:10Speaker 11: of Robert Menzies, of John Howard, of Joney Abbott, they
- 30:13Speaker 11: have to abandoned that zero. And if they do not
- 30:17Speaker 11: every single one of them is finished.
- 30:20Speaker 1: And they know it.
- 30:23Speaker 2: Rowan Dean, It's always a joy to talk to you
- 30:26Speaker 2: and look forward to watching you Friday Night on the World.
- 30:28Speaker 2: According to Rowan Dean, thanks so much for joining me tonight. Well,
- 30:32Speaker 2: coming up a new twist in the Jeffrey Epstein saga,
- 30:35Speaker 2: and Trump turns up the heat on Barack Obama. Kosher
- 30:38Speaker 2: Garda joins me in a moment Well, welcome back, joining
- 30:44Speaker 2: me now as Skyne News contributor Kosher Garda. Kosher. Donald
- 30:48Speaker 2: Trump has come out swinging, saying former President Barack Obama
- 30:52Speaker 2: is guilty of treason and he's vowed to go after people.
- 30:56Speaker 2: It follows allegations that Obama ordered an intelligence report to
- 30:59Speaker 2: damage Trump after his twenty sixteen election win, a report
- 31:03Speaker 2: that falsely accused Trump of colluding with Russia to steal
- 31:07Speaker 2: the election. It was a claim that dogged Trump throughout
- 31:10Speaker 2: his first term, but now Trump says there's evidence it
- 31:12Speaker 2: was all concocted by Obama and Donald Trump has not
- 31:16Speaker 2: held back.
- 31:18Speaker 10: This was treason.
- 31:20Speaker 1: This was every word you can think of.
- 31:23Speaker 10: They tried to steal the election, they tried to upfuscape
- 31:27Speaker 10: the election. They did things and nobody's even imagined even
- 31:31Speaker 10: in other countries. We have all of the documents, and
- 31:34Speaker 10: from what Cholsey told me, she's got thousands of additional
- 31:39Speaker 10: documents coming. So President Obama, it was his concept, his idea.
- 31:47Speaker 2: Now Barack Obama, as you would expect us, denied any involvement,
- 31:50Speaker 2: with a spokesperson calling these claims a bizarre distraction, kind
- 31:55Speaker 2: of like claims of Russian collusion. Really, but US House
- 31:58Speaker 2: of Representative Speaker Might Johnson has said he has no
- 32:01Speaker 2: issue bringing Obama in for a congressional disposition or subpoena.
- 32:05Speaker 7: Have listened to this, Does it get tricky at all
- 32:07Speaker 7: with the former president President Obama looking at what his
- 32:11Speaker 7: role in this is and bringing him in for some
- 32:13Speaker 7: sort of deposition, potential.
- 32:14Speaker 2: Subpoena, Well, listen, I mean I can't. We have no
- 32:16Speaker 2: concern about that.
- 32:17Speaker 13: If it's uncomfortable for him, he shouldn't have been involved
- 32:19Speaker 13: in overseeing this, which is what it appears to us
- 32:22Speaker 13: has happened.
- 32:24Speaker 2: Coach, And this is huge if the Trump administration have
- 32:27Speaker 2: the documents to prove it.
- 32:31Speaker 14: The heat certainly seems to be getting turned up in
- 32:33Speaker 14: the kitchen for Shore James. Look, he's echoing what Chelsea Gabbert,
- 32:37Speaker 14: the D and I director, said, she used similar words
- 32:40Speaker 14: quote treason, seditious, conspiracy, etc. When she dumped those documents
- 32:44Speaker 14: last Friday. I would say that the outlines of the
- 32:47Speaker 14: story are pretty well established. Many investigative journalists have been
- 32:51Speaker 14: covering this now for the better part of the last decade.
- 32:53Speaker 14: What these documents are doing is just filling in a
- 32:55Speaker 14: little bit more of the details. They're pointing to some
- 32:58Speaker 14: specific things in writing, say Obama directed or redirected an
- 33:03Speaker 14: intelligence assessment and had something removed from the Presidential Daily
- 33:07Speaker 14: Briefing that would have normally been in there, saying there
- 33:09Speaker 14: was no intent or capability by the Russians to hack
- 33:12Speaker 14: quote unquote the US election, that he ordered a new
- 33:16Speaker 14: report basically. Now, whether or not this rises to the
- 33:19Speaker 14: legal standard of treason, I am very doubtful. I'm not
- 33:22Speaker 14: a lawyer, but the legal standard for that is very
- 33:25Speaker 14: very high. However, the US Code is long and vast,
- 33:28Speaker 14: and there are all sorts of criminal statutes. Is there
- 33:31Speaker 14: something else, if not Obama himself, others in his orbit
- 33:34Speaker 14: that could be charged with something? We already know that
- 33:37Speaker 14: Clapper and not Clapper excues me come the former FBI director,
- 33:41Speaker 14: and Brennan, the former CIA director, are under investigation for
- 33:44Speaker 14: something or the other. No indictments have been brought yet,
- 33:47Speaker 14: so that is what everybody's waiting for. Will there be investigations,
- 33:50Speaker 14: because the process is the punishment, even if it doesn't
- 33:53Speaker 14: lead to full on convictions. I don't know whether Obama
- 33:57Speaker 14: gets ensnared in this or not, but even if it
- 33:59Speaker 14: is something like coming in front of Congress doing a hearing,
- 34:01Speaker 14: getting in from the camera and having to defend these actions,
- 34:04Speaker 14: that's obviously not a pretty look, and at least for now,
- 34:07Speaker 14: it looks like they may just go there.
- 34:11Speaker 2: Last night I spoke to Sean Spicer about the unhinged
- 34:14Speaker 2: rant of former President Joe Biden's troubled son Hunter. Is
- 34:18Speaker 2: a clip from Hunter's rant that we didn't show last night,
- 34:20Speaker 2: but here he says it's illegal migrants from El Salvador
- 34:24Speaker 2: that should not be sent back there. Have listened to
- 34:26Speaker 2: what he said.
- 34:27Speaker 13: How are we getting those people back from in El Salvador?
- 34:30Speaker 13: Because I'll tell you what, if I became president in
- 34:32Speaker 13: two years from now, or four years from now or
- 34:35Speaker 13: three years from now, I would pick up the phone
- 34:37Speaker 13: and call the president El Salvador and say you either
- 34:41Speaker 13: send them back or I'm going to invade. It's a
- 34:43Speaker 13: facking crime what they're doing. He's a dictator.
- 34:48Speaker 1: Doug bo Kelly drump both.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Well Today, the leader of El Salvador, hit back on
- 34:53Speaker 2: Twitter with this blunt reply. He wrote, quote is Hunter
- 34:57Speaker 2: Biden's sniffing powdered milk, referring to Biden's earlier troubles with
- 35:01Speaker 2: drug use and then US borders. Tom Homan was just
- 35:04Speaker 2: as blunt, referring to the former First Lady Jill Biden's
- 35:07Speaker 2: son Hunter as the first drug addict. Have a listen.
- 35:10Speaker 2: I don't really care what the former first drug addict thanks.
- 35:14Speaker 2: I just thank God every morning I wake up.
- 35:16Speaker 6: We got President Trump in the Oval office.
- 35:19Speaker 2: Kosher Hunter. Biden's made himself an international joke with this
- 35:22Speaker 2: ridiculous rant. What's he trying to achieve?
- 35:27Speaker 1: Who knows?
- 35:28Speaker 14: It was a wild ride, Daves. There were some nuggets
- 35:30Speaker 14: in there, like the George Clooney staff and the Nancy
- 35:33Speaker 14: Pelosi stuff that were interesting and probably there was some
- 35:37Speaker 14: truth to them. But this stuff he's punching above his
- 35:40Speaker 14: pay grade. He and his father were not as popular
- 35:43Speaker 14: as Trump is at this point in his presidency and
- 35:45Speaker 14: certainly not as popular as President bucle of Elsalvador is.
- 35:49Speaker 14: He's the most popular democratically elected leader in the world,
- 35:52Speaker 14: something like a ninety percent approval rating because of what
- 35:54Speaker 14: he has done to that country's criminal situation, and he's
- 35:57Speaker 14: just brought down the homicide rate like dropping out like
- 36:00Speaker 14: a stone. These two gentlemen know what they're doing, both
- 36:03Speaker 14: presidents in terms of deporting these bad hombres as President
- 36:06Speaker 14: Trump polls them, putting them in these maximum security prisons.
- 36:09Speaker 14: And El Salvador very popular policy because it's very good policy,
- 36:12Speaker 14: and nobody cares what hundred thinks and he is not
- 36:15Speaker 14: covering himself in glory to see the least.
- 36:19Speaker 7: All.
- 36:19Speaker 2: Right, before we go to a break, the Jeffrey Epstein
- 36:21Speaker 2: story just won't go away, and why shouldn't. There's still
- 36:24Speaker 2: so many una answered questions, but it's taken another turn
- 36:28Speaker 2: with the Republican led House Oversight Committee reportedly set to
- 36:31Speaker 2: subpoena convicted sex trafficker and widow of Jeffrey Epstein. The
- 36:37Speaker 2: British socialite would be someone the give testimony, potentially revealing
- 36:40Speaker 2: details that so many people are now calling to be
- 36:43Speaker 2: made public. Kosher. What do you think of this and
- 36:46Speaker 2: where's it going to go? I mean she would know
- 36:50Speaker 2: most about that, what's been going on right at Epstein's island.
- 36:55Speaker 14: Yes, she would. And Epstein's former lawyer, one of his Laura's,
- 36:58Speaker 14: Alan Dershowitz, has called her the rules at a stone
- 37:00Speaker 14: because she knows everything of this whole web of a
- 37:03Speaker 14: story that we've been piecing together in the public eye.
- 37:07Speaker 14: Congress is correctly reading, as you said, that the interest
- 37:09Speaker 14: in this is not going away. There's massive interest in
- 37:12Speaker 14: it across the electrod but especially among the Republican base
- 37:15Speaker 14: for a good reason, legitimate reason. Even the President Trump
- 37:17Speaker 14: has been trying to make it go away. And while
- 37:20Speaker 14: they don't have investigative power, they do have subpoena power Congress.
- 37:23Speaker 14: They do have the ability to bring whole people in
- 37:25Speaker 14: in front of Congress, in front of microphones and television
- 37:28Speaker 14: and answer questions under penaltary perjury. It would make for
- 37:32Speaker 14: great television given the interest, and they also know that
- 37:34Speaker 14: it plays well to their constituents, so that's what they're.
- 37:36Speaker 2: Indicating they might do.
- 37:38Speaker 14: I don't know how much we're going to learn about it,
- 37:40Speaker 14: because there's been an entire investigation. She's not Jeffrey Epstein.
- 37:44Speaker 14: It doesn't tell us everything about the cover up allegedly
- 37:47Speaker 14: and other things that conspiracies are bounding about. But maybe
- 37:51Speaker 14: we get some more nuggets from it, and it'll certainly
- 37:53Speaker 14: be all eyes on her if that were to take place.
- 37:57Speaker 2: Absolutely, Kausha Gata always a joy to speak with you.
- 38:00Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Will job bosses say ninety percent
- 38:04Speaker 2: of unigraduates are unemployable? Are we surprised? And why are
- 38:08Speaker 2: so many people turning off the safety features in their
- 38:11Speaker 2: new cars? All of that and more with my panel
- 38:14Speaker 2: next welcome back. Well, it's official universities have officially mastered
- 38:22Speaker 2: the art of producing graduates who are highly qualified and
- 38:25Speaker 2: utterly useless. You already suspected that, didn't you. According to
- 38:29Speaker 2: Jobs and Skills Australia boss Barney Glover, are staggering ninety
- 38:33Speaker 2: percent of engineering and IT graduates aren't considered suitable by employers.
- 38:39Speaker 2: That's not a skills gap, that's a skills chasm. Specifically,
- 38:42Speaker 2: he says, graduates are technically proficient, but they can't communicate,
- 38:46Speaker 2: can't problem solve and can't work in a team. Joining
- 38:49Speaker 2: me now is our panel. Regular guests, Jimma Togneeny from
- 38:52Speaker 2: GT Communications and PR Council's Christy McSweeney, Jemma is the
- 38:57Speaker 2: job's boss being too harsh. I mean, sure, these graduates,
- 39:00Speaker 2: graduates car't communicate, but I mean they are amazing at
- 39:03Speaker 2: spotting microaggressions.
- 39:05Speaker 15: Look, I think there's a lot of truth to it.
- 39:07Speaker 15: In my own firm, James, in the last three years,
- 39:11Speaker 15: we have made a deliberate decision to hire graduates because
- 39:14Speaker 15: we believe that we have a responsible ability to provide
- 39:17Speaker 15: employment opportunities for those who are starting their careers. And
- 39:20Speaker 15: I got to tell you, it was very, very difficult
- 39:23Speaker 15: to find somebody who could fit fit the bill. And
- 39:27Speaker 15: it wasn't as this story says. It wasn't on paper.
- 39:31Speaker 15: On paper, we had no shortage of candidates, but when
- 39:33Speaker 15: it came down to actually those first interviews, it was
- 39:37Speaker 15: terrifyingly scarce, and we ended up landing a spectacular young
- 39:43Speaker 15: woman who's still with us to nearly three years down
- 39:45Speaker 15: the track. But it took us a long time to
- 39:47Speaker 15: find her. And interestingly, and she knows this, that her
- 39:51Speaker 15: CV wasn't wasn't the thing that caught our eye. What
- 39:55Speaker 15: caught our eye was the part of her CV where
- 39:57Speaker 15: she had actually organized her own practical experience, her practical
- 40:01Speaker 15: work experience outside of her course, and we thought, well,
- 40:04Speaker 15: that shows various things, but also shows an ability to communicate.
- 40:08Speaker 15: But the cvs that were just all of the things,
- 40:12Speaker 15: those candidates were not suitable, So I can't argue with
- 40:16Speaker 15: that assessment.
- 40:19Speaker 2: You, Christy, are you surprised by this report.
- 40:23Speaker 16: Or I'm not surprised by it. James and the sector
- 40:29Speaker 16: that it particularly looks at, which is ICT STEM graduates,
- 40:33Speaker 16: particularly programs developers, information technology architecture. I work in the
- 40:39Speaker 16: technology industry and I know that there is a significant gap,
- 40:43Speaker 16: so much so of students coming out of university studying
- 40:48Speaker 16: Bachelor of I or development, various other ICT disciplines that
- 40:53Speaker 16: once they go into a technology workplace, they have to
- 40:56Speaker 16: be retrained, almost like a technology academy, so they can
- 41:02Speaker 16: be fit for purpose, to be skilled for the demands
- 41:05Speaker 16: of industry. And that's only going to increase as government
- 41:10Speaker 16: funnels most of its budget into the cybersecurity and ICT
- 41:14Speaker 16: technology associated with ORCUS. But our skills and training framework
- 41:20Speaker 16: in Australia is largely strangle held by the states, and
- 41:26Speaker 16: particularly when those states change from coalition to labor. You
- 41:30Speaker 16: find that all the training placement favors TAFE. And we
- 41:36Speaker 16: know we've heard the Prime Minister time and time again
- 41:38Speaker 16: saying free tape as a major platform, and they give
- 41:42Speaker 16: that free tape money, they hand it.
- 41:44Speaker 4: To the States.
- 41:45Speaker 16: But there's a reality where industry is saying, particularly in technology,
- 41:50Speaker 16: that TAPE can't train into an industry standard and you
- 41:54Speaker 16: have to let more private training in. We have to
- 41:57Speaker 16: stop this ideology of PAFE versus private training. They all
- 42:02Speaker 16: can work together, and I think TAFE actually wants to
- 42:06Speaker 16: work with private industry and private training wants to work
- 42:09Speaker 16: with TAPE. But the system is set up in a
- 42:12Speaker 16: five term and the Albanezi government spent twelve million dollars
- 42:16Speaker 16: last year on a review of skills in tape training
- 42:19Speaker 16: to find that out.
- 42:23Speaker 2: They say a picture speaks a thousand words, So I
- 42:25Speaker 2: want to get your opinion on the picture. Liberal leader
- 42:28Speaker 2: Susan Lee posted on social media today. Here it is.
- 42:31Speaker 2: Have a look. It's posted with the caption it's my
- 42:34Speaker 2: first question time as opposition leader and my experienced team
- 42:38Speaker 2: is ready now. It didn't get many likes on social media,
- 42:42Speaker 2: but it generated a lot of comment. You both public
- 42:45Speaker 2: relations experts.
- 42:46Speaker 1: Did you like it, hate it?
- 42:48Speaker 2: Or were you indifferent?
- 42:49Speaker 15: Jimma, all I can say is the last thing women,
- 42:53Speaker 15: first of all conservative women who are looking to the
- 42:56Speaker 15: party to actually show themselves for what they stand for,
- 43:00Speaker 15: is low level Charlie's Angels. On Wednesdays, we wear pink
- 43:04Speaker 15: mean girl's girl boss bs James. I don't know who
- 43:08Speaker 15: approved that caption.
- 43:09Speaker 1: I don't know who approve that.
- 43:10Speaker 15: Imagine if she had come out and said something like
- 43:14Speaker 15: it's day one of the new Parliament and we're going
- 43:16Speaker 15: to hold the Prime Minister accountable on the staggering cost
- 43:19Speaker 15: of housing in this country, cost of living, the rising
- 43:21Speaker 15: cost of energy, national security, no more hiding, mister Albanezi
- 43:26Speaker 15: or anything along that vein. But what this did was
- 43:30Speaker 15: reinforce stereotypes. I'm in a pink suit. There's three of us.
- 43:33Speaker 15: We're walking purposely towards camera. Stereotype after stereotype. Don't give
- 43:39Speaker 15: us form, for God's sake, give us substance. I don't
- 43:43Speaker 15: care if you chuck twenty uteruses at the Liberal Party.
- 43:46Speaker 15: I don't care. I want to see outcomes. I'm a
- 43:49Speaker 15: liberal voter. I'm not in the party. Unlike Christy I've
- 43:51Speaker 15: never worked within the party machine, and I don't particularly
- 43:54Speaker 15: care for the party machine. I want conservative policies that
- 43:58Speaker 15: are going to take Australia back to the radical course correction,
- 44:02Speaker 15: that we need to bring prosperity back to this nation,
- 44:06Speaker 15: to bring efficiency back to this nation, all of the things.
- 44:09Speaker 15: As Tim Wilson proved in Goldstein, you don't have to
- 44:12Speaker 15: be a woman to win a seat, but we seem
- 44:15Speaker 15: to be obsessed with it. I don't have a view
- 44:16Speaker 15: on Susan Lee yet. I don't have a view, but
- 44:19Speaker 15: if this is the start, boy, she better do better
- 44:21Speaker 15: than that.
- 44:24Speaker 2: Jimmy, I was going to move on to the next topic,
- 44:26Speaker 2: but you came out so strong and so hard on that.
- 44:29Speaker 2: I better give Christy a say here, do you do
- 44:31Speaker 2: you agree Gema or if you've got a different interpretation, Look.
- 44:36Speaker 16: I think there's a number of things going on here.
- 44:39Speaker 12: I didn't like it.
- 44:41Speaker 16: I didn't think that it was a good representation of
- 44:44Speaker 16: what she's trying to do. And what she's trying to
- 44:47Speaker 16: do is signal that it's a change, that it's a
- 44:50Speaker 16: new leadership, that we're embracing a female leader. And sure
- 44:53Speaker 16: that's a really historic moment for the party, and it's
- 44:57Speaker 16: eighty odd years to have a female leader. So that's great,
- 45:00Speaker 16: that should be celebrated. But the other thing she's trying
- 45:04Speaker 16: to do is tap into the zeitgeist. And we've seen
- 45:08Speaker 16: politicians so much try and tap into that. We've mismanaged
- 45:12Speaker 16: use of social media. And the reality is conservative politicians
- 45:18Speaker 16: rarely get picked up in the day to day zeitguyst
- 45:20Speaker 16: through their social media because not enough people of the
- 45:23Speaker 16: cohort follow them for it unless they make a damaging mistake,
- 45:28Speaker 16: then it gets picked up. So trying to tap into that,
- 45:31Speaker 16: I don't think it landed with the people that it
- 45:34Speaker 16: was supposed to land with. There's a better way of
- 45:38Speaker 16: signaling that change and a better way of positioning that
- 45:42Speaker 16: message that she wanted to position on social media. Yeah,
- 45:47Speaker 16: I don't think it hit the mark either, But I
- 45:50Speaker 16: like her approaching in general. But I think people are
- 45:54Speaker 16: sort of there's a lot of talking going on. Maybe
- 45:57Speaker 16: can you tell us something?
- 45:58Speaker 15: Yeah, And I don't mind that she seems to be
- 46:02Speaker 15: taking her time to figure out policy positions. The last
- 46:04Speaker 15: thing we need is more knee jerk reactions. But it's
- 46:07Speaker 15: not like there's no low hanging fruit that Susan Lee
- 46:11Speaker 15: couldn't come to the party with on day one of
- 46:13Speaker 15: the first the first Parliament that she is opposition leader
- 46:18Speaker 15: and as Christy said, it is historic, it does deserve
- 46:20Speaker 15: to be marked.
- 46:20Speaker 12: But don't market like that.
- 46:22Speaker 15: Don't market with some bloody degrade, you know, like I said,
- 46:25Speaker 15: it's like Charlie's Angels, where's the where's the wind machine?
- 46:29Speaker 2: You know?
- 46:29Speaker 12: What an what an embarrassing? What an embarrassing thing.
- 46:33Speaker 15: To start with? Like, what a terribly embarrassing thing to
- 46:35Speaker 15: start with? Like I said, I'm not a member of
- 46:37Speaker 15: the Liberal Party.
- 46:38Speaker 2: I'm a conservative voter.
- 46:39Speaker 15: I'm looking to my party and going pull it together
- 46:42Speaker 15: for the love of God.
- 46:47Speaker 2: Question both of you experts when it comes to pr
- 46:50Speaker 2: and fascinated.
- 46:52Speaker 10: By day one.
- 46:53Speaker 16: It's not it's together day one, it's back to the split.
- 46:57Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. I'm going to move on just quickly.
- 47:01Speaker 2: One in five Victorian drivers are now fighting back against
- 47:04Speaker 2: their own vehicles, according to a Double Ami Crash Index report.
- 47:08Speaker 2: Drivers are switching off things like lane assist, adaptive cruise
- 47:11Speaker 2: control and forward collision warnings because they say, you know,
- 47:15Speaker 2: the tech is just that annoying, so they prefer human
- 47:19Speaker 2: error over robotic nagging. We've only got a minute left,
- 47:23Speaker 2: so you got to keep your answers brief. But Jim up,
- 47:25Speaker 2: I get it. There's nothing worse than driving to the
- 47:27Speaker 2: shops while being scolded every three seconds to do you
- 47:30Speaker 2: identify I had a Tesla.
- 47:32Speaker 15: I sold my Tesla for one of many reasons. That
- 47:35Speaker 15: was part of it. And you're driving along and you
- 47:37Speaker 15: think you're doing fine, and then all of a sudden,
- 47:39Speaker 15: your car screams at you, which can be dangerous in
- 47:41Speaker 15: itself because it's often overly sensitive and not representative of
- 47:46Speaker 15: what's actually going on on the road in that vehicle.
- 47:49Speaker 15: So I get it.
- 47:53Speaker 2: It's almost the more safe they try to make these cars,
- 47:55Speaker 2: the more annoying they become, and it becomes counterproductive. I
- 47:59Speaker 2: totally id with that report. Christy. I'm sorry I don't
- 48:02Speaker 2: have time to get to you. I'm sure you are
- 48:04Speaker 2: very safe on the roads of that. I have no
- 48:06Speaker 2: doubt things both tonight. It's not easy driving in Melbourne.
- 48:14Speaker 1: We got to go.
- 48:14Speaker 2: That's that's all I've got time for tonight. Thanks for watching,
- 48:19Speaker 2: but stick around. Coming up now is Sharry, hosted by
- 48:22Speaker 2: Steve Price. Good Night