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Pilot Stabbed, Plane Plunges, Heroes Take Over at 30,000 Feet · The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson

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  Speaker 2: Good Thursday morning. It's so nice to have you with
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  Speaker 2: lives even on the ground. One hero is now recounting
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  Speaker 2: the battle, and others are coming forward, talking about what
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  Speaker 2: happened in the cockpit on a flight that was headed
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  Speaker 2: to Tel Aviv. We have all the latest details for you,
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  Speaker 1: Story number one.
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  Speaker 2: I want you to imagine sitting on an airplane at
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  Speaker 2: more than 30,000 feet flying from Dubai to Tel Aviv.
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  Speaker 2: I want you to also imagine more than 170 people
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  Speaker 2: are around you. Everything seems normal. And then suddenly the
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  Speaker 2: airplane starts falling out of the sky. Now, no turbulence,
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  Speaker 2: not a little drop. According to flight data and reporting
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  Speaker 2: from Reuters and the Associated Press, fly Dubai flight 1073
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  Speaker 2: plunged from roughly 33,000 feet towards 17,000 feet in an
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  Speaker 2: extraordinary short period of time. Reuters reports that at one point,
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  Speaker 2: the aircraft lost nearly 14,000 feet in less than 30 seconds.
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  Speaker 2: Passengers had no idea what was happening. One passenger described
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  Speaker 2: the airplane dropping for 20 or 30 seconds, leveling off
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  Speaker 2: and then dropping again. People were being thrown around. Passengers
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  Speaker 2: were screaming. And inside the cockpit, according to Israeli officials,
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  Speaker 2: something almost unimaginable was happening. The co-pilot allegedly attacked the
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  Speaker 2: captain with a knife. And Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu says
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  Speaker 2: investigators believe the co-pilot then attempted to crash the airplane.
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  Speaker 2: The exact motive remains under investigation. And FlyDubai has cautioned
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  Speaker 2: against jumping to conclusions later. before that investigation is complete,
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  Speaker 2: quote unquote. But what happened next is the unbelievable part
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  Speaker 2: of the story, the part about courage, the part about survival. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the captain, who has now been identified, is an Indian
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  Speaker 2: national and an extremely experienced 737 pilot. The man reportedly
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  Speaker 2: has roughly 9,750 hours flying Boeing 737 aircraft. including more
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  Speaker 2: than 6,400 hours as pilot in command during his previous
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  Speaker 2: career at Spice Jet. He also spent about 11 years there,
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  Speaker 2: eventually becoming a line training captain before joining Fly Dubai
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  Speaker 2: in 2022. And that experience may have helped save every
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  Speaker 2: person on board this airplane, because after allegedly being stabbed
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  Speaker 2: and badly wounded, the man somehow remained conscious. Israeli officials
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  Speaker 2: say that while bleeding heavily, he managed to activate the
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  Speaker 2: release for the cockpit door. Now, I want you to
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  Speaker 2: think about the significance of that one action. If he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't get that door open. The passengers inside cannot get
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  Speaker 2: to him, cannot get to the cockpit, cannot get to
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  Speaker 2: the controls to save their lives. And if they don't
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  Speaker 2: get inside, we would be talking very differently right now
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  Speaker 2: about this entire story. A very different ending. A different
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  Speaker 2: ending that deals with tragedy and the loss of more
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  Speaker 2: than 170 people on board. And this is the part
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  Speaker 2: that I love about this story. Because what happened after
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  Speaker 2: this amazing pilot was able to unlatch that door is
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  Speaker 2: the passengers then realized something was terribly wrong. And they
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  Speaker 2: charged towards the cockpit. One of them was a man
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  Speaker 2: that now is nothing but a hero by the last
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  Speaker 2: name Manaz. His wife and young daughter were near the
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  Speaker 2: bathroom at the front of the airplane when his wife
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  Speaker 2: reportedly heard screaming coming from the cockpit. The man says
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  Speaker 2: his wife alerted a flight attendant. Then the wounded captain
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  Speaker 2: emerged as the airplane began plunging, nosediving, to earth. The
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  Speaker 2: man got his daughter away from the front of the
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  Speaker 2: plane and then went towards the danger. His daughters were
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  Speaker 2: screaming that they didn't want to die. He went forward anyway,
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  Speaker 2: the Times of Israel is reporting now. Then there was
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  Speaker 2: another man by the name of Yaniv. This individual and
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  Speaker 2: other passengers forced their way into the cockpit and confronted
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  Speaker 2: the attacker. And here's the part that sounds like something
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood would reject for being too unbelievable if they wanted
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  Speaker 2: to do this true story as a film. As others
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  Speaker 2: wrestled with the attacker, Hayun says he grabbed the aircraft
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  Speaker 2: controls and pulled back.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Why? because he had seen it done on television. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: he had seen it done on television, folks, and that
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  Speaker 2: is why he did it. Afterwards, even Netanyahu asked him
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  Speaker 2: whether he actually knew what he was doing. The man answered,
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  Speaker 2: I watched air crash investigation, Mr. Prime Minister. That's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: A passenger with no reported professional pilot training is suddenly
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  Speaker 2: sitting in the cockpit of a Boeing 737 that's been
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  Speaker 2: plunging towards the ground, and he grabs the controls and
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  Speaker 2: pulls back. Now, this is where the story gets even
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  Speaker 2: more amazing. Then, a qualified crew member was able to
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  Speaker 2: take over. Meanwhile, other passengers were physically fighting the accused attacker. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 2: all this is going on. Menez says it ultimately took
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  Speaker 2: roughly 20 to 25 minutes to fully restrain the attacker.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the guy that was the pilot of the
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  Speaker 2: plane that's supposed to keep you safe, who was trying
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  Speaker 2: to kill everyone on board. And get this. They reportedly
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  Speaker 2: used corded headphones to tie him up. Whatever they could find,
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  Speaker 2: whatever they could use. They improvised because failure wasn't an option.
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  Speaker 2: Another passenger involved was Asaf, who helped restrain the attacker
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  Speaker 2: and later described the instinct behind what they did. Very simple.
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  Speaker 2: When your daughter and your family are on the airplane,
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  Speaker 2: You run towards the threat, he told ABC News. Another
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  Speaker 2: life still had to be saved, by the way, the captain,
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  Speaker 2: who was seriously wounded and bleeding. That's where another passenger
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  Speaker 2: stepped forward, a doctor, an Israeli dentist. And guess what?
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  Speaker 2: He ran towards the cockpit within seconds of hearing the screaming.
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  Speaker 2: He found the captain badly wounded, particularly around his head.
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  Speaker 2: The doctor says he worked to stop the bleeding and
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  Speaker 2: stabilize the captain's blood pressure. So look at this chain
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  Speaker 2: of events and the miracle that actually happened in the sky.
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  Speaker 2: You've got a captain who, despite being stabbed, managed to
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  Speaker 2: get the cockpit door open so others could step in.
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  Speaker 2: You then have passengers who charge towards the alleged attacker.
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  Speaker 2: You have men physically overpowering and restraining him. You have
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  Speaker 2: a passenger briefly grabbing the aircraft controls based on what
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  Speaker 2: he'd seen on TV. You have a dentist who suddenly
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  Speaker 2: became an emergency trauma doctor, a dentist at 30,000 feet. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I want to pick it up where I just stopped
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  Speaker 2: a moment ago. You have a dentist suddenly becoming an
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  Speaker 2: emergency trauma. doctor, as I said, at 30,000 feet, saving
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  Speaker 2: the life of the captain of the plane who was attacked.
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  Speaker 2: And there was one more enormous piece of good fortune
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  Speaker 2: in all of the story that I just told you.
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  Speaker 2: A reserve fly-to-buy flight crew happened to be on board
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  Speaker 2: the aircraft. Once the cockpit was secured, you had qualified
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  Speaker 2: pilots that could take control of the Boeing 737 and
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  Speaker 2: divert it to Saudi Arabia, where they were able to
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  Speaker 2: land the plane safely. Now, remember the geopolitical reality here
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  Speaker 2: about this airplane and where it was flying. This was
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  Speaker 2: an airplane filled largely with Israelis, bound for Tel Aviv,
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  Speaker 2: suddenly making emergency landing in Saudi Arabia, a country that
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  Speaker 2: does not have formal diplomatic relations with Israel at all.
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  Speaker 2: Saudi authorities and medical personnel received the passengers, treated the injured,
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  Speaker 2: and then assisted them after landing. The passengers were eventually
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  Speaker 2: flown onward and arrived safely in Israel. Now, you may
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  Speaker 2: be asking yourself, why did I start with the good
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  Speaker 2: news instead of talking about the terrible part of this,
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  Speaker 2: which was this one individual that was trying to kill everyone?
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  Speaker 2: I want you to understand that even when terrible things happen,
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  Speaker 2: there are incredible people that step up to help save lives.
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  Speaker 2: This is no different than what we saw in 9-11.
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  Speaker 2: This is a story where we should celebrate the victory
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  Speaker 2: that was had even after the attack happened. Now, of course,
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  Speaker 2: we need to ask the question, who was this co-pilot?
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  Speaker 2: Why did they actually want to do this? Well, so
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  Speaker 2: let me tell you exactly what we know about this individual.
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  Speaker 2: Israeli officials have identified the accused co-pilot as Omani National.
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  Speaker 2: His name has been publicly confirmed in multiple reporting as well.
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  Speaker 2: Saudi authorities reportedly arrested him after the aircraft landed. And
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  Speaker 2: his nationality is generating another major question. Oman does not
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  Speaker 2: have diplomatic relations with Israel. So investigators are now going
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  Speaker 2: to want to know everything about how this individual was vetted,
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  Speaker 2: how he was assigned to an Israeli-bound flight, and most importantly,
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  Speaker 2: how a knife or other weapon apparently ended up inside
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  Speaker 2: that cockpit. But there is something important we do not
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  Speaker 2: know right now. We do not yet have independently verified
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  Speaker 2: evidence establishing exactly what his motive is. There's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of speculation, obviously, for good reason. The Israeli defense minister
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  Speaker 2: has characterized what happened as a jihadist terror attempt. And
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  Speaker 2: that part I can agree with. Israeli officials are investigating
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  Speaker 2: the incident as a possible terrorist attack, he said. Netanyahu
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  Speaker 2: himself has also said it is still too early to
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  Speaker 2: definitively determine the motive. And Fly Dubai has urged people
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  Speaker 2: not to speculate before the investigation is complete. And look,
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  Speaker 2: all of those distinctions matter. Now, what appears much clearer
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  Speaker 2: from the reporting is the physical sequence of events. A
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  Speaker 2: pilot was attacked. The aircraft entered a catastrophic descent. Passengers
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  Speaker 2: and crew intervened. The alleged attacker was subdued. And another
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  Speaker 2: crew ultimately got the plane safely on the ground. There
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  Speaker 2: were even emergency signals coming from the cockpit as well.
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  Speaker 2: The aircraft transmitted 7700. Now that is the International Transponder
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  Speaker 2: Code for a General Emergency. It also transmitted 7500, the
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  Speaker 2: code associated with an unlawful interference or hijacking situation. Now Israel,
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  Speaker 2: just so you know, scrambled fighter aircraft as authorities tried
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  Speaker 2: to understand what was happening in the sky. And somehow,
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  Speaker 2: more than 170 people survived. Now, you may say somehow,
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  Speaker 2: let's be clear. I think this was God's protection over
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  Speaker 2: everyone on that airplane. So that is the story, and
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  Speaker 2: I would say the miracle of all of this. There
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  Speaker 2: is no doubt enormous security questions that need to be answered.
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  Speaker 2: Who is this co-pilot, and what radicalized him as part
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  Speaker 2: of that? What is the motive exactly, and was there
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  Speaker 2: any other people behind him in the planning? Were there
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  Speaker 2: any warnings in his background that should have been vetted?
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  Speaker 2: And Was there other people that helped him get on
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  Speaker 2: this plane headed for Israel? All of these questions are
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  Speaker 2: extremely important. One thing I can tell you, Israel's going
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  Speaker 2: to figure it out. They're really good at this. There's
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  Speaker 2: also another question that people are asking right now, and
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  Speaker 2: that is this. When you have people that are ordinary
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  Speaker 2: citizens sitting in a plane and this happens, what message
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  Speaker 2: does it send to the world? Let me tell you,
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  Speaker 2: that captain... He fought despite being seriously wounded and he
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  Speaker 2: got that door open. That's one of the greatest victories
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  Speaker 2: of his entire life. The other man that ran towards
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  Speaker 2: the danger after getting his daughter to safety. That's a
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  Speaker 2: father doing what any father does. You have the other
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  Speaker 2: man I talked about who helped enter the cockpit and
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  Speaker 2: grab the controls. He's a hero. He didn't know how
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  Speaker 2: to fly a plane. He did the best he could
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  Speaker 2: and he saved people's lives. And then you have the
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  Speaker 2: others that helped restrain the attacker. You have the doctor
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  Speaker 2: that treated the bleeding captain and clearly saved his life.
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  Speaker 2: He was a dentist just on a plane flight. And
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  Speaker 2: then you have the flight attendants and then you have
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  Speaker 2: the reserve pilots. They all did their job and they
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  Speaker 2: got the airplane on the ground. So I say this
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  Speaker 2: while I'm grinning. This could have been a very different show.
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  Speaker 2: This could have been a very different story. I could
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  Speaker 2: have been telling you this completely differently than what I'm
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  Speaker 2: telling you right now. But by the grace of God,
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  Speaker 2: you had passengers and crew flying from Dubai to Tel Aviv.
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  Speaker 2: And when the moment came, they made a decision. We're
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  Speaker 2: not going to sit here and we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: sit here and die. We're going to fight back. And
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  Speaker 2: because they did, everyone on board got to go home. That,
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  Speaker 2: my friends, is an amazing story. And it's a story
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  Speaker 2: about humanity. It's a story about people coming together. It's
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  Speaker 2: a story about geopolitical issues. Issues that disappeared in a
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  Speaker 2: moment's notice between two countries that don't even have diplomatic relations.
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  Speaker 2: Because in that moment, everyone was just a human being.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe we can learn from that. Not just in
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  Speaker 2: this country, but honestly, all over the world. Quick break.
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  Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson's show more coming up.
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