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Episode 30 | Monday Night Rewind | Tyler McGhan | Scott Gates · Top Row Racing Media Monday Night Rewind

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  All right, happy Wednesday for a Monday night rewind.
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  So again, I know it's a little bit of a different night, but we
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  are the Monday night rewind on a Wednesday, a special night of
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  short track racing discussion. I'm Lewis, the Co host of the
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  Monday night rewind, of course, in charge of top row racing
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  media and I will introduce my guest Co host here in just a
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  moment. But first we have Tyler Mcgahn,
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  flagman Mcgahn, as he's known at Kalamazoo, who will be joining
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  us at about seven O 5. Looks like he has a guest with
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  him too. And then we have Scott Gates,
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  who just took a second in the Russells and 40 Speedway Point
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  Championship chase. It came right down to the wire
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  and a tie breaker nonetheless at that.
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  And then he's going to be making his debut this Saturday and the
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  school bus racing at the Kalamazoo Speedway.
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  So excited to talk about Scott's, not only his career and
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  everything that he's done, but then to talk about his
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  opportunity to get into a bus this Saturday at the Kalamazoo
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  Speedway. And then one more quick reminder
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  for our scheduling notes coming up.
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  Again, there's no Thursday night throttle tomorrow.
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  We are on an every other week's schedule starting this week.
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  So we are off tomorrow. So we'll be back on September
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  17th and then again on October 1st, October 15th and October
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  29th. And then from there once a month
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  probably starting the second week of November.
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  And so we are getting to that point of the season where it's
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  all post season discussion and someone who just also competed
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  in the national compact touring series championship chase almost
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  got it. My Co host tonight.
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  Welcome back to the show, Dalton Irish.
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  So Dalton, any time we do the closing at the end of the night,
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  I always have to go into, OK, you know, Dalton did it so darn
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  well that now I got to like, hit the note every time.
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  And so I'm glad to have you back.
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  I know the episode that we had you on was a little wonky when
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  we were trying to figure out sound and all that.
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  So we'll see how everything is tonight.
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  But I know it's a Wednesday, but it is a Monday night Rewind.
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  So again, thank you for joining. Of course, and sadly, I'm not
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  coming live from Buju's basement, which is.
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  Buju Base. View, but I guess my job will do
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  just the same. Yeah, but you got a race car
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  behind you, so you know, he had he has to get in a race car to
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  have a race car behind him, so. Right.
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  So you know, you got a race car though.
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  That's a nice little backdrop. And I know you just took second
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  in the point standings for the National Compact Touring Series
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  when you guys just finished up Birch Run.
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  So I know since the last time we talked, you know, we were
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  getting ready for Canada and all the things.
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  So how's life been since last time we had you on the Monday
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  Night Rewind? So far so good.
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  Couldn't be better getting ready to have a a new baby here and.
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  Yeah, shortly. Less than a week due dates
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  Wednesday, so we're hoping maybe sooner, but other than that,
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  just getting ready for the end of the year shows.
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  It's looking like Springport, Michigan Cup's going to be the
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  one. All right, Well, a lot of people
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  are talking about Michigan Cup. I mean, that's been the buzz
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  around that even during Kalamazoo's championship night
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  when Justin Leroy was asking people what, you know, what's
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  your postseason plans, what are you planning to do?
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  Are you coming to super Shoot or whatever?
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  And almost every driver he interviewed went right to
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  Michigan Cup. They didn't even mention Super
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  Shoe. And so I think there's a buzz
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  because of obviously with the Ritter's taking back over at
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  Springport and everyone knows where that track was with the
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  Ritter's in charge. I mean, I know Kurt was there,
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  but he was kind of there, you know, I've Donnie, you know, did
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  and his family, right, you know, did the nitty gritty stuff.
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  And so everyone knows what they can do.
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  He has a track record of what he's done at Galesburg, where he
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  re established Galesburg as a place to be.
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  And so I think that's why I'll there's a lot of buzz about
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  Michigan Cup coming up. Oh yeah, I know.
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  I know a lot of people are excited to get back on the track
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  after only getting one shot last year and just the new life
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  that's going to be into it with it being revived next year.
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  Hopefully you know, the schedule looks nice for everybody and it
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  kind of works out and they have good car counts every week.
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  Well, and I think that that's going to be I think that's a big
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  question going into next year is, you know, like we've had a
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  couple shows this year in our area where it seemed like the I
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  don't want to say this, I want to say the biggest loser because
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  they're not losers, but but the track that got hurt the most by
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  some of these big shows, the street stock shows, the, you
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  know, all these things going on seem to be Galesburg, you know,
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  other than front wheel drives, they always seem to have front
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  wheel drives. But you know, some nights are
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  missing late models, some nights are missing St. stocks because
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  the big shows around. And I think that's going to be
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  the roll of the dice next year is, you know, how many front
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  wheel drives go back to Springport even for like Owosso,
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  you know, Owosso when they first came on and they had incredible
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  payout and everything, a lot of cars went over to Owosso.
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  But then they kind of trickled back, you know, they, they
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  started coming back to, to like Springport, like Spring Court
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  hurt for a little bit, but they just kept doing their thing.
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  And before you knew it, cars come back one after one after
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  one. And then we're kind of like, OK,
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  we're back kind of where we started, you know, even with
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  boats less payout about, you know, people like the vibe and
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  the feel of Springport. And so I think that's going to
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  be the big question going into 2027 is what is Springport's
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  impact? Not so much on Kalamazoo because
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  Kalamazoo's a Friday night track and I think in 40s just enough
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  South that they're not going to be as impacted.
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  But I think it's Galesburg, Corrigan Oil, Owosso you know
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  that triangle right there is what what impact does Springport
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  coming back have on them? And I think, you know, you kind
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  of look where a lot of the tracks draw from now, like M40,
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  they'll probably be OK. They're pulling a lot of like
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  the northern Indiana Elkhart area.
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  They're almost more competing with new Paris for cars where
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  Galesburg has like their dedicated base to where they
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  might have 55 front wheel drives every night.
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  I I could see that dropping to maybe 45, but I don't think
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  they'd get halved or anything. But a lot of the Lansing cars,
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  the Lansing area guys, you know, once Springport was gone, they
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  really didn't have anywhere to go.
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  It was either or Owosso and me hitting Owosso a couple times
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  this year. Everybody's excited to be back
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  there. They all wanna go back home and
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  it's just the proximity is gonna be a lot nicer for them.
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  Yeah. And I think that's the, and I
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  think that's the thing too, is that Springport is home for so
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  many, right? That even if it's not your home,
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  it feels like home. And I mean, I know a lot of
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  people ask me, you know, every, anytime I run into somebody, are
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  you going back to Springport? You're going back to Springport,
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  You're going back to Springport. And I give them the same answer
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  that, you know, 1. You know, I haven't even had
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  that conversation with Donnie. Donnie may have other plans,
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  right? Like I may not even be in his
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  plans or he might not even be thinking that far.
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  But two, it's like, but New Paris hasn't done anything for
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  me to just go. And I kind of feel like, you
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  know, if I just go to Springport and leave New Paris like high
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  and dry, then it's like, well, you know, canoe pairs sink.
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  Well, we were good enough when Springport was closed, but now
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  the Springport's back open, you just go right away, right?
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  Like that was kind of, I don't know if I were in their shoes,
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  that would feel icky. So it's kind of one of those
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  like, I'll do what I can to balance everything out.
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  And, and like I said, Springport may have completely different
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  plans and, you know, but I, I, as I tell Donnie all the time, I
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  will have his back no matter what.
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  And I will, you know, help push Springport to the moon from my
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  side. I can do what I can do, you
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  know, to, to put them in the spotlight again, because I, you
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  know, I have high confidence in him as a promoter and what his
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  family does, right? I mean they do it at a top level
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  that you know, there's might there might be 7 people working
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  that whole backside and other tracks have 60 people working
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  that backside. But you know though, I'll put
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  those 7UP against 60 any day. Yeah, and I think, you know, I
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  just talked to Donnie yesterday cuz I was reserving my pit slab
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  and my camping and all that for Michigan Cup.
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  And I can definitely tell that just having you back at the
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  track probably isn't forefront his mind.
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  I mean this. Is a deal for him.
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  It's. Going to be nuts but I know
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  you'll make a couple trips up there cuz we know how you love
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  your modifieds so. Oh yeah, well, at Springport,
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  that's what made me fall in love with the modifieds again is
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  Springport. Just watch them there then, you
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  know, when I you know, and I love having them down in New
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  Paris, you know, but there's just something about that
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  backstretch at Springport that you just watch them and, and the
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  fact that you're just trying to buy farm fields, you know, like
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  it's just, it's one of those things that, you know, it's
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  just, it's different. I always tell people you got to
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  go to Springport at least once and experience it and, and all
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  that's all it's going to take, you know, experience it once and
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  then you'll be hooked instantly. And that's not anything against
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  any other track, right? It's just Springport has just a
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  feel to and I think some of it too.
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  And Buju would say the same as I'm a big history guy.
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  And you know, you just look at the history of Springport and
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  how that came to be and why it came to be.
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  And and you and you watch the YouTube series, talk all about
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  it. And it's like, you know,
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  something I like, I always like sitting on the track somewhere
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  at the end of a night and just kind of taking it in.
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  Like, you know, some man literally risked his whole
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  retirement because he accepted the challenge.
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  It's like the Field of Dreams. Like it's truly, you know, he he
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  plowed down his corn. You know, it wasn't a baseball
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  field, but it was a racetrack. And, and, and, you know, and
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  that we're lucky. I mean, it's obviously had
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  turmoil in its history. And that's a it's a tough place
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  to succeed, right? You're not pulling from a big
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  fan base and you know, people really got to get there.
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  And but I always tell people all you got to do, don't let the all
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  the corn fields and the cows and the goats and the pigs and all
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  that scare you off. Don't let it feel like you're in
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  Children of the Corn or Scarface is going to come around the
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  corner. Like just get there and you'll
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  come up and it's like you're thinking like, man, there can't
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  be a race track out here. And then boom, there's race
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  track and you're and then it's like you get there and it's like
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  the perfect setting. Oh yeah, it's definitely not.
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  It's definitely not one you would drive by on accident.
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  Like you definitely have to make a point.
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  Yeah. You got to take three different
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  dirt roads to get there. I mean, you think you're lost
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  until all of a sudden. You see it?
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  Yep, Charlie Hannon described it that way.
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  He's like, oh, then there's a racetrack.
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  You know that and it was big, right?
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  They didn't they couldn't believe how big it was.
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  Even though it's a 3 eighths, it's like it's a it's that paper
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  clip 3 eights, right? It doesn't, it's not just a
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  circular D or anything like what you get at M40 or at Kalamazoo,
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  but I know someone who's definitely had cars and, and
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  everything succeed over at Springport has been the McGann
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  so that you know, they've had McGann racing there.
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  And so, you know, maybe we can ask Tyler if he's going to jump
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  back in the car, you know, and maybe hit up Springport a little
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  bit if he, you know, if he has time, but but if you're ready,
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  we can bring him on too. Ready whenever you are.
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  Hey, hey, you're kind of in charge.
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  You're the you know, you're a Buju spot.
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  So you know, Buju is usually bossing me behind the scenes.
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  I know most people don't know that but, and that's also my
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  story since he's not here tonight and can't defend himself
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  so. Exactly.
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  You just pile it on. Yeah, yeah, You know, we can do
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  all the things because he's not here.
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  But anyways, let's go ahead and let's bring on Flagman McGann
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  again, who, you know, has had, you know, success over at at
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  Springport. And so I don't think, oh, I cut,
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  I'm cutting my own head off. There we go.
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  But again, welcome Tyler Mcgahn, Flagman Mcgahn head starter at
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  Kalamazoo Speedway and Owosso Speedway.
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  So welcome to the Monday Night Rewind on a Wednesday.
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  How we doing tonight, fellas? Good.
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  How are you? Not too bad.
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  I appreciate you guys hang me on.
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  And see you even I feel left out though.
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  I don't have a race car. Tyler has a race car behind him.
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  You have a race car behind him. I have trees and hummingbirds
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  behind me. But I, I don't have a race car
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  though. So I, I would never fit in, but
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  maybe I could get the pace car behind me.
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  You know, that's lettered up and everything that kind of blends
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  in. But I'm looking and I'm like,
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  man, now I'm really left out. You know, Boozoo has always a
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  fancy setup and everything, but I just, I'm like, I'm outside.
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  That's my setup. Again, Motorsports might have a
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  couple cars they can. Hey, they bought 1 of mine.
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  Yeah, not mine. It was my my dad.
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  Yeah, yeah, they came down to they made the trip down to
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  Bridgeman to get a night of destruction car basically.
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  So they took off a Trailblazer that was just sitting around
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  doing nothing and. And so they took that.
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  I don't. How did that car do, Tyler?
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  They did well. We were at it for a couple shows
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  and then just with, like anything with Night of
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  Destruction, I mean, once they're done, they're done.
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  Yeah, but it survived a couple. Yeah, that was it was a tough
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  one that the engine and everything is what was well.
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  But the back the back all the things is what needed work.
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  But but Tyler, I know obviously we have a night of destruction
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  this Saturday at Kalamazoo. The Mcgann's have a history with
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  this whole show and I know obviously Kenny have a be doing
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  that. But before we get started, why
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  don't we first always start with My favorite question is who's
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  Tyler McGann? Well, as of now, I'm just the
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  flag man at Kalamazoo and Owosso.
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  But back before that, I used to be a racer, which started at
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  Galesburg at the age of 14. And then we traveled, we've
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  traveled to, we ran some dirt, we ran Kalamazoo Springport.
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  So we've traveled quite a bit around the state back when I
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  used to race. And then as you were saying, we
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  provide for both Ginsburg and Kalamazoo and then sometimes
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  even Hartford or wherever else if Andy needs us.
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  Well, I know, I mean you guys are sometimes just busy, busy,
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  busy, busy, busy, right? You know, planning shows, doing
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  stunts, doing different things, getting all that set up.
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  So how do you manage and find all this time then, right, like
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  because again, you, you know, your Friday nights at Kalamazoo,
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  you're on the stand all night. You know, from the time you get
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  there to the time we leave, there's no intermission.
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  I mean, you might get like a few minutes, you know, which, you
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  know, obviously getting down, opening the gate, you know,
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  letting people celebrate their wins and everything.
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  And but then you're going to Owosso you're there all day,
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  sometimes even into night, you know, depending on like like a
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  few weeks ago when they had just weather, right, right nonstop.
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  Then you've been a flag man at Galesburg in the past.
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  You've flagged at Hartford in the past.
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  You've just kind of been all over, you know, even with
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  national compact touring series. So how do you manage to find all
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  this time and also still with you and your dad put out winning
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  race cars? Well, it's tough.
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  It's a seven days a week process.
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  Usually Friday we're at Kalamazoo Owosso Saturday and
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  then Sunday usually at back to Kalamazoo for the mini wedges
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  and then occasional Wednesdays at Berlin, Then wherever else,
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  wherever else they need me. And then whenever I'm not at the
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  racetrack, we're always going to get vehicles and prepping for
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  the next night of destruction or cleaning up from the previous
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  night of destruction. It's a 24/7.
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  Type process. So how many cars do you guys
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  have now? Like how many are in the game
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  Motorsports race car wise? How many cars are you guys
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  holding right now? We have 5 total 5 All right, and
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  who are the racers with Mcgahn's?
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  Because I know like your dad dropped into the car earlier
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  this year. I well, yeah.
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  Galesburg, right, If I remember. No yeah, that's right.
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  Galesburg. Yeah Yep.
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  Because he's spun and feeling when Well, what you think you
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  got it back in your system, right?
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  And but you know, he raced at Galesburg and then I know
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  sometimes every now and then you like, you'll jump in.
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  But you've had Mike Rose in the past.
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  You've had others. So who's part of my game Motor
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  Shorts right now? Oh well, whenever we can find
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  time, my dad and I, we like to race.
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  But finding time has become the issue as of recent.
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  Of course we got Dylan and Mike Rose next door.
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  Other than that, it's kind of fizzled down to us four.
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  Oh wow. Yeah, and again, your car, your
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  cars are always looking sharp. And I you know, what is it like
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  for you? You know, do you, do you miss
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  being in the car, you know, or just flagging kind of do it for
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  you, right. Like, you know, you're still
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  involved with the sport, you're still making an impact.
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  You have a lot of people who watch what you do.
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  So you know what's one of those, you know, like watching it.
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  Do you miss it or do you feel like man though, like I get to
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  flag and see some awesome moments and be part of some
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  awesome moments that are beyond my own car and race.
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  So like, what's the feeling for you as you do all of this?
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  I mean, I definitely do miss racing.
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  There's there's no feeling of being in a race car.
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  But when you get the opportunity to flag races like the Clash or
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  racing or flagging the Sprint cars and stuff like that, or big
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  modified races and stuff of that sort of super shoe, it's, it's
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  fun to do that as well. So it it's about 5050 really.
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  I'd like to find time to get back in a race car once in a
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  while. But I also do like flagging as
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  well, so. It's kind of like that tug and
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  pull. Yeah.
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  Well, then that originally. Oh, go ahead.
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  I originally had no plans of ever being a flag man.
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  I raced to Kalamazoo one season for points, then next season
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  decided I was going to take the season off, just race whenever,
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  wherever. And Gary Howe approached my dad
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  and I asking, hey, would you be interested in working at the
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  racetrack if I need you at all? We both agreed.
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  Sure. You know he might call us here
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  and there one week and whatnot. Well, seemed to be every week he
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  needed. Us.
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  So yeah, I was going to say that became pretty permanent pretty
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  quickly. Yeah.
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  And then, and I know that's going to be one of the the
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  questions that I had is then, you know, how do you go from a
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  racer to be a flag man, right? Because it's not.
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  You know, I always I've asked like Raymond this right?
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  Or you know, Rusty, some people know him as Rusty Diehlman.
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  And but Raymond, I've asked others, like, how do you find
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  yourself on the flag stand? You know, like there there's no
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  like, you know, in wrestling, there's wrestling school And and
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  if you're a semi truck driver, there's trucking school.
• 20:12
  If you're a school bus driver, there's busing school, right?
• 20:14
  There's. Unless there is one that I don't
• 20:17
  know. It's like, is there like a
• 20:18
  flagging school? Not that I'm aware.
• 20:22
  Of no, I just, I didn't think so.
• 20:25
  I've not heard of one at least. No, it just comes from previous
• 20:31
  years of racing experience being at the racetrack.
• 20:34
  And of course I'm not perfect. No flag man's going to be
• 20:39
  perfect. But at the end of the day, you
• 20:41
  got to treat it as a job. I mean, you got to be cutting
• 20:46
  straight across the board and treat everybody equal.
• 20:48
  You can't have any type of favoritism or anything of that
• 20:52
  sort. And then you give these drivers
• 20:56
  the respect. Usually they'll give you the
• 20:58
  same amount of respect back. So I can't slip you $100 bill
• 21:03
  and and say, hey, I needed a black guy, you know, Black Flag
• 21:06
  this guy. Not happening I guess.
• 21:12
  At the end of the day, it's my reputation on the line.
• 21:16
  Yeah, I got a free job. You might have to up that by 10,
• 21:21
  Lewis. Well, then I'll be broke, but
• 21:25
  it's not worth it that much. It's going to be Scott Gates.
• 21:28
  I was going to tell before he came on that I black flagged you
• 21:31
  just for the fun of it. But I don't think he's actually
• 21:33
  been black flagged though. I don't, I don't think he's been
• 21:36
  black flagged now that I think about that.
• 21:37
  But I was going to be like, you went too fast, buddy.
• 21:40
  You know, you just went too fast here.
• 21:41
  So Tyler Black flagged you when you weren't on, just so you
• 21:44
  know. It's a create Black Flag
• 21:46
  officials. According to the Time officials
• 21:48
  in the Michigan game, he still had one second left, so.
• 21:51
  Oh yeah, yeah, we weren't going to go there, but well, and
• 21:55
  Dalton's a Michigan fan, right? So I know as well.
• 21:59
  I am as well, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:02
  Give me a second to process that but.
• 22:05
  Honestly with how they play it, they deserve to lose that game.
• 22:08
  I agree. 100%. I'm not going to say anything.
• 22:14
  I already said my piece and people are on my butt about it.
• 22:16
  I'm like, this is not just a Michigan thing, right?
• 22:18
  This is just in general, like it's just this, not the smell
• 22:23
  test, right? And and and obviously like
• 22:25
  Tyler, like I related to when I was talking to someone about it
• 22:30
  at Grundy, because they're a Michigan fan and they know me
• 22:33
  and they know that I'm a Notre Dame fan.
• 22:35
  And I said, well, you know, I didn't see the results obviously
• 22:38
  until like home and everything, right?
• 22:39
  And from Galesburg. And so I was on the road
• 22:43
  literally by water of elite and I was listening to the radio and
• 22:47
  there's like one second left. I'm like, Dang, westerns going
• 22:49
  to pull this off. Who would have thought that
• 22:51
  anywhere, anytime, anywhere, any place, right?
• 22:54
  And then Drew Jacks calling me and Drew said, So what happened
• 22:57
  to the game? As if I knew?
• 22:58
  And I said I'm on the road. I don't know what happened.
• 23:00
  He said, well, Michigan just won and I went there's no way.
• 23:04
  He said they literally just said they lost and he said no, they
• 23:06
  won. And then so when I got home,
• 23:08
  right, I saw all of it. I'm like, that doesn't pass the
• 23:12
  smell test, right? Even their explanation and I, I
• 23:15
  kind of think about, I equated it to, you know, you were on the
• 23:18
  flag stand. Obviously when we had all that
• 23:20
  with, with Jared Blanchard and Maynard's and all that.
• 23:25
  And when, when Raymond asked me my opinion and I, it hurt me to
• 23:30
  give him my opinion because I care a lot about him as a person
• 23:34
  and, and just value who he is. And I told him I said that
• 23:37
  doesn't, it doesn't pass the smell test.
• 23:39
  We know what we just saw with our eyes here at the racetrack.
• 23:42
  You're not going to convince any of us differently.
• 23:46
  And whether you're a Jared Blanchard fan or not, I said
• 23:49
  there's just no way, right? I said that it's not egregious,
• 23:52
  but it's pretty close. And I said that just does not
• 23:55
  pass the smell test. And especially when that inside
• 23:58
  middle car, the Sandwich car, right, like was kind of already
• 24:00
  loosey goosey himself to begin with.
• 24:02
  So it's not like he didn't have ground to stand on.
• 24:05
  And I'm like, there's just no way.
• 24:07
  And so, you know, then it took a few laps to get that fixed and
• 24:11
  corrected, but they did alternately, right.
• 24:13
  And unfortunately though, you know, and you don't see that too
• 24:16
  often, usually race results aren't changed like that, just
• 24:19
  like in football, they're, you know, the Mac obviously came
• 24:22
  back out and did their things. And and I'm like, you know, this
• 24:25
  isn't just a Michigan thing, even though people are thinking
• 24:28
  it's just Michigan thing and that Michigan lives.
• 24:29
  RIP free my head. I'm like, obviously I don't see
• 24:31
  what I say about the SEC, but you know, like, you know, but
• 24:34
  Alabama is kind of normal now. They're human, so they're not
• 24:38
  doing much anymore. But now it's, you know, your LSU
• 24:42
  and everything. But I'm like, it just, it got it
• 24:44
  has to pass the smell test, right?
• 24:46
  Otherwise, you know, people already have conspiracy theories
• 24:49
  about, you know, the NIL stuff and this and that and gambling
• 24:53
  and this and that, right? Like, so now you have this and
• 24:56
  it's like if it were reversed and Western was the one who
• 25:00
  threw that Hail Mary and all the things like what?
• 25:03
  Like I don't know if you could go that way, right, with a big
• 25:06
  10 officiating crew being the ones the the not the officials
• 25:10
  on the field. I don't blame them.
• 25:11
  They did what they were told to do.
• 25:13
  But you know, the the replay booth and now the NCA yesterday
• 25:16
  came out with a rule saying you got to use the TV clock.
• 25:19
  So it's like, like, why was that rule before?
• 25:23
  You know, like why does it have to take something?
• 25:25
  Which I know that's how it works, right?
• 25:27
  You make a rule when someone does something, but like, come
• 25:31
  on now, because now you're just now you're telling everybody
• 25:33
  that the result is wrong. So not only was it wrong and
• 25:36
  everyone knows it was wrong, now you're proving that it's wrong.
• 25:39
  So I'm like, I don't know, maybe they can go and get a TRO like
• 25:42
  everyone else does and a temporary restraining order on
• 25:45
  the game result. But but yeah, I know this.
• 25:47
  So I wasn't going to go down that rabbit hole knowing that I
• 25:49
  already have one Michigan fan. I forgot you're a Michigan fan
• 25:52
  too. I won't judge you both.
• 25:53
  But but still, it was, I don't know, like it just made me think
• 25:57
  of racing though, like people talk about and I always tell
• 26:01
  people, move on. It's time to get over it.
• 26:02
  And I wasn't getting over it. But I'm like, this is just a
• 26:05
  bigger than Michigan and Western moment.
• 26:07
  This is all of college football. And right now it's just really
• 26:10
  struggling, right? Like I don't watch NFLI could
• 26:12
  care less about NFL. That's what I was telling Tyler
• 26:14
  Dalton. You weren't on yet.
• 26:15
  But that's what I was telling Tyler is like, I just like I
• 26:19
  don't care about the NFL. I'll watch when it comes to the
• 26:21
  playoffs and who's in there in the Super Bowl.
• 26:23
  Not for the commercials, just for the game, but the
• 26:25
  commercials are the fun part. But it's like I watch college
• 26:28
  football. I love watching college
• 26:30
  football. And so it's like you just see
• 26:31
  everything that's going on and all the weird stuff.
• 26:33
  And it's like, man, it's just, I don't know, it's getting to a
• 26:37
  point where like you almost got to blow up the whole system and
• 26:39
  start from scratch. Like, I don't know, but Notre
• 26:43
  Dame won't be in a conference. Just let you both know.
• 26:45
  Even if we blow it all up and start from scratch, you know
• 26:47
  they're still going to be independent.
• 26:49
  They like they like their TV deal.
• 26:50
  Money tell you that. Yeah, well, and they well, and
• 26:53
  think about it. If LSU tomorrow gets expelled,
• 26:56
  right, Which are not, I mean, everyone knows her not.
• 26:58
  But let's say like hell froze over and it actually happens
• 27:02
  because they've they threatened it before this lawsuit, right?
• 27:04
  The all the presidents, I'm like LSU would be in the same boat as
• 27:07
  Notre Dame. They can get their own TV
• 27:09
  contract. They could do all the own things
• 27:11
  that they have. You know, building a schedule
• 27:13
  would be the pain in the butt part.
• 27:15
  But but, you know, that's, I don't know.
• 27:18
  I just, I think it's going to take a catastrophic change to
• 27:20
  get Notre Dame to bend to the conference deal.
• 27:23
  I just and then like, yeah, they have to go to ACC.
• 27:26
  That's the thing. I'm like, I don't know that I
• 27:28
  would want you in the ACC, right?
• 27:29
  The ACC has a bad reputation right now, but they're
• 27:32
  contractually obligated. And so I think it's 2030 or 33
• 27:37
  that they would have to go to the ACC.
• 27:38
  But it's like, I don't know, maybe the Big 10 can say, hey,
• 27:41
  we made a mistake in the 90s. We'd love to have you back now,
• 27:43
  especially since Notre Dame is in there for hockey, Big 10
• 27:47
  hockey. You're just not going to beat
• 27:48
  big Big 10 hockey. I mean, just everyone will tell
• 27:50
  you that. But so, yeah, I don't know about
• 27:54
  that. But Tyler, think about that.
• 27:56
  Like, obviously this one second deal as a flag man, what are
• 27:59
  some of the most difficult spots you've been in as a as as a flag
• 28:03
  man where, you know, you saw it one way, but maybe race control
• 28:07
  or others. And you don't have to give the
• 28:09
  track. I'm not asking for the track,
• 28:10
  but just in general, because we're not going to, we're not
• 28:12
  going to say what track it is, but just a tough call, you know,
• 28:16
  you know, tough or like this is a tough pill to swallow.
• 28:20
  Yeah, I mean, it happens every week.
• 28:25
  Just basically if you see contact, it's all, it's usually
• 28:31
  always going to be 5050. You're going to have 50 people
• 28:35
  saying it went this way, the other 50 people saying it went
• 28:40
  the other way. I mean, you basically got to
• 28:43
  stick to your guns and just go with what you saw, you know, and
• 28:50
  we're all human. It's never, you're never going
• 28:54
  to be perfect 100% of the time, but just basically got to be
• 28:59
  aware and try the best you can really to just pay attention.
• 29:06
  And and it helps also with multiple sets of eyes to to help
• 29:13
  like maybe somebody, maybe three other people in a tower race
• 29:19
  director, whatever saw it this way and you saw it the other
• 29:23
  way, you know, then you work together to come up with the
• 29:28
  best call and who had the best view, what not and all that is
• 29:33
  all that sort. Well, what I think a lot of
• 29:36
  people don't understand is that like you obviously in the flag
• 29:41
  stand don't have the benefit of like a replay booth.
• 29:45
  You know, like you and and most short tracks like Kalen Zoo has
• 29:49
  their own camera system. New pairs has their own camera
• 29:51
  system. Corgan has their own camera
• 29:52
  system. Like whether they have a
• 29:54
  videographer or not allowed tracks to have a video system
• 29:57
  for choose line, all these different things.
• 29:59
  But you don't have even if you know, you don't have any access
• 30:03
  to that. And sometimes tracks may not
• 30:05
  even have the right angle. And I think a lot of times
• 30:07
  that's what what people do have to understand is that most short
• 30:10
  tracks don't have a replay center or 50 cameras they can
• 30:15
  pull from or, you know, to get down and slow it down and also
• 30:18
  take, you know, 40 minutes to decide that, right?
• 30:21
  Like, you know, you don't have all that time to do that.
• 30:24
  You don't have commercials to go to where you can buy that.
• 30:28
  And, and I think that's the thing, right, that a lot of
• 30:31
  people sometimes do forget in short track racing especially,
• 30:34
  is that even if there's technology on the property, it's
• 30:38
  not going to solve everything and definitely not going to have
• 30:41
  all the kind of angles that you can get like down to like, well,
• 30:45
  is there a green spot on that front of the bumper?
• 30:47
  We can't tell, you know, like, you know, where NBC or Fox can
• 30:51
  zoom in and show you the the goal line and the helmet just
• 30:55
  crossing with the football or, you know, in baseball, it just
• 30:58
  hits the yellow line on the home run stretch, right?
• 31:01
  Like whatever, right? Like short tracks don't have
• 31:03
  that. And a lot of times I think
• 31:05
  you're held to that same standard by fans, racers and
• 31:09
  crew members as if you're supposed to be 100% right all
• 31:12
  the time. And I think Gary House, the one
• 31:14
  who said if you can be like 70% right, 60% right, 70% right.
• 31:18
  He said a lot of MLB teams would take that batting average
• 31:23
  because you're just not going to get it all right.
• 31:25
  And I know like a Grundy, they have one flag, man.
• 31:28
  You know, at least you have you and your dad.
• 31:30
  Sometimes you might have someone else with you.
• 31:32
  I think at Owosso you're by yourself a lot of the time.
• 31:35
  So like your two eyes that really have to watch everything
• 31:39
  you can, But I know I've also asked a lot of questions too.
• 31:43
  So I definitely want to throw it over to Dalton so he can get in
• 31:45
  here. I feel like he's probably
• 31:47
  sitting there going you're making you're boozooing me right
• 31:50
  now. You're just making me sit here.
• 31:51
  And but but that's where I just I wanted to ask that too,
• 31:54
  because since we were on the the Michigan game thing, but it's
• 31:58
  thinking like while we have people, I'm like, what's it like
• 32:00
  to be a flag man? And and how does a call come
• 32:03
  down because you don't have the benefit of 4050 TV shots to go?
• 32:09
  Oh, that's how that happened. Like you might get your eyes and
• 32:13
  your eyes only so, but definitely, you know, Dalton,
• 32:16
  jump in and ask your, you know, ask anything you want to know,
• 32:19
  especially you as a racer. Of course.
• 32:21
  So my first one is when is Ace Hart taking your job over at
• 32:25
  Owosso? He's been doing a great job over
• 32:27
  on the backstretch in Turn 2. When's that one coming?
• 32:30
  I saw he was just down at Winchester so he's it's got to
• 32:33
  be any day now. Yeah, that kids got it, Got
• 32:37
  Talent there. I mean, you got to respect it.
• 32:40
  I always enjoy looking across over there and seeing him waving
• 32:44
  the flags and you can't beat it really.
• 32:48
  I tell you what, he's on the money too.
• 32:50
  Sometimes he whips the caution out faster than you do.
• 32:53
  Oh yeah, yeah, he's on it. He's a great kid, great at what
• 32:58
  he does. Oh yeah.
• 33:02
  He's the future of flagging, that's for sure. 100% What?
• 33:07
  So when you first got in the flag stand, what was what was
• 33:10
  kind of like the internal pressure?
• 33:12
  Like obviously you have to make calls, you have to do all these
• 33:14
  things. You know, how long did it really
• 33:16
  take you to get comfortable in the flag stand?
• 33:19
  Like my first thought is, OK, if I was up there, I'd be worried
• 33:22
  about dropping the flag. I mean, what what kind of went
• 33:25
  through your mind the first time you got up there and how how
• 33:27
  long did it take you to get comfortable up there?
• 33:31
  There's still times where it's, well, it's always nerve wracking
• 33:35
  too because you have all these drivers lives at your hands, you
• 33:41
  know what I mean? If you make one mistake and you
• 33:43
  pile up half the field, you take a risk of getting somebody
• 33:47
  injured. And fortunately I had a season
• 33:54
  to be the assistant flag man beside Tony Postma.
• 34:00
  And that got me comfortable and got to watch him and kind of get
• 34:04
  familiar with how the process went and stuff along that.
• 34:08
  And then the following year he well, he, he was at Berlin on
• 34:16
  Saturdays and Kalamazoo on Fridays.
• 34:19
  He just went to focus primarily on Berlin.
• 34:23
  So that put me in charge and then Gary brought my dad in to
• 34:30
  be the assistant and it, it took a while, it took a few, about
• 34:38
  1/2 a season to get really like settled down.
• 34:47
  And there's still times where you do get worked out and but as
• 34:55
  part of the job. You got to do it.
• 34:58
  So have you been practicing any of your flare?
• 35:01
  I remember back in the auto value bumper to bumper Sprint
• 35:04
  car days, their flag man was, I mean basically outside of the
• 35:08
  flag stand with two hands, both on the checkered flag.
• 35:11
  Have you been working on any flare to really bring some
• 35:14
  excitement to some people or what do you think?
• 35:18
  We might have to bring something out.
• 35:22
  I tried tried to watch other Flag man and see if I could
• 35:28
  learn things from them as well. Like I'll go to the racetrack
• 35:33
  just to watch the races, end up paying more attention to the
• 35:38
  flag man and how he's doing and whatnot.
• 35:40
  Then I am the actual race. So with that being said, is
• 35:46
  there any like a certain type of car that's harder to flag?
• 35:50
  Obviously with the speeds going by, I would assume it'd be wing
• 35:53
  Sprint cars just with the extra air coming across there.
• 35:56
  Is there anything that's, you know, more nerve wracking to to
• 35:59
  watch and kind of be conscious of?
• 36:03
  Well, the Sprint cars, they, they put like you said, they put
• 36:06
  up a lot of wind and then the flag stand at Kalamazoo more so
• 36:11
  than Owosso is out above the track a little bit.
• 36:16
  So when they come by kick that wind up, it shakes the entire
• 36:20
  flag stand and a lot of people don't know I'm afraid of heights
• 36:23
  to begin with, so. I did not know that.
• 36:27
  Yeah, it that's definitely the most nerve wracking.
• 36:32
  Then night of destructions or when they have the salmon eyes
• 36:37
  over there, the the buses will get together right, right
• 36:42
  underneath you. And granted, you have a couple
• 36:44
  feet, they're not going to hit the flag stand.
• 36:46
  But you look down and you still think like, Oh no, they're about
• 36:50
  to Take Me Out. That's always probably an
• 36:57
  interesting feeling, especially, you know, if someone gets into a
• 37:00
  wreck or something right at the at the flag stand, you know,
• 37:03
  hitting the wall. I'm sure that they'd probably
• 37:05
  shaking your boots a little bit too.
• 37:07
  Oh yeah, we had that modified race up at Owosso earlier this
• 37:11
  season and had two rollovers. Both of them happened to be on
• 37:15
  the front stretch and both of them started right in front of
• 37:19
  me. So I'm I got to hurry up and
• 37:23
  turn the lights on, but at the same time be alert and make sure
• 37:26
  I'm not getting taken out as well.
• 37:28
  Well, I think that's the thing too.
• 37:30
  Like you've seen it happen a couple times this year where the
• 37:32
  flag stand has been hit, you know, by a late model or by a
• 37:36
  Sprint car or buy some kind of, you know, race vehicle that, you
• 37:41
  know, especially at Kalamazoo when you're hanging over, right.
• 37:44
  You know, that's, I mean, I've even stood up there a couple
• 37:47
  times, you know, for super shoe or whatever, just to do video or
• 37:51
  pictures. And I'm kind of holding on to
• 37:52
  the bar the whole time, even though I I trust it.
• 37:55
  But a lot of people don't understand too that the what you
• 37:57
  stand on, it's not like the most sturdy thing ever, like the
• 38:00
  great moves and it you know, even where was it?
• 38:03
  What track? Oh, I forget where it was, but I
• 38:07
  stood on it and I went, does it move like this all the time?
• 38:10
  I'm like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a fan of this right now.
• 38:14
  And I don't think a lot of people like understand, like
• 38:18
  it's not like some solid thing that you're standing on the
• 38:20
  whole time either. Yeah, it's then over time as
• 38:28
  well, it gets wore out and it's still it's sturdy.
• 38:34
  It's safe, but if you're not used to it and you're not
• 38:39
  familiar with it, it definitely catch you off guard as well.
• 38:44
  Yeah, I was not expecting it to move like it dead.
• 38:46
  I went well and and I know you're talking about like the
• 38:49
  wind and everything even 2 on the roof.
• 38:52
  You know I'm on the roof at Kalamazoo and you can even feel
• 38:54
  it up there when the Sprint cars and outlaws are going and I'm
• 38:57
  like on that night that it's hot, I'm like, oh, that felt
• 38:59
  nice. But then I'm like, but think of
• 39:01
  how high I am and that that much force is making its way up,
• 39:06
  right. So what do you think about South
• 39:08
  at Kalamazoo, right? If you make a call that someone
• 39:12
  doesn't like, you literally have people knocking at your door,
• 39:15
  essentially at Owosso you're all by yourself.
• 39:18
  The only people who you have that might knock at your door
• 39:20
  might be Chris Foby, you know, and the and the tower there.
• 39:24
  So what's it you know, Do you? Does it feel awkward not having
• 39:29
  fans right behind you heckling you or anything, or even
• 39:32
  praising you when you do something well that they
• 39:34
  appreciate? Or is it kind of nice because
• 39:37
  there's a buffer? Like, what would you?
• 39:38
  What do you prefer as a flag man who also again has to be paying
• 39:42
  attention to the races and everything on the track?
• 39:46
  I mean, you got to love a passionate fan really.
• 39:54
  It is kind of relieving at the same time as well.
• 39:59
  Not having that issue at Owosso. Because a lot of a lot of them
• 40:05
  honestly, at Owosso, I don't make any of the calls them come
• 40:09
  from the tower. Your typical fan won't know that
• 40:13
  their first instinct is to come to the flag stand and voice
• 40:17
  their opinion with the flag man. But I do I it does get lonely
• 40:25
  over there being by myself. Nobody.
• 40:29
  Nobody really to talk to. Nobody.
• 40:35
  I mean, I'm basically flagging for myself over there.
• 40:39
  Yeah, I I wondered what it's like because, you know,
• 40:42
  obviously they still got to do all that construction over there
• 40:44
  and so it's just closed until it's not.
• 40:47
  And but but I wondered, you know, is it like nice?
• 40:52
  Is it, you know, because I would say Kalamazoo, I mean, luckily
• 40:56
  and maybe it's happened and I've just missed it, but no one at
• 40:59
  least has bull rushed the flag stand and climbed up it to make
• 41:02
  an issue or anything. Like people do have that respect
• 41:05
  at least that they don't. They might be yelling at you.
• 41:08
  They definitely want your attention, but they're not
• 41:10
  climbing up to make an issue. Like they do have a respect for
• 41:13
  that. But I've always just wondered
• 41:14
  too like, but it's still there. You're right in the mix of
• 41:18
  everything. Whereas at Owasso it's like,
• 41:20
  well, you got to put a lot of work to get across to me, so.
• 41:24
  Yeah, if they were to come to the flag stand at Owasso, they'd
• 41:27
  usually be tired out by then. Anyway, yeah, that's a long way
• 41:31
  around, but yeah, so that I wondered that too as we were
• 41:35
  talking. I'm like, it's not only the air,
• 41:38
  not only things, but it's like, but you're kind of lonely at
• 41:42
  Owosso. Like you're in your own world,
• 41:43
  basically your own island, all by your, you know, all by
• 41:47
  yourself. But Dalton, I know you brought
• 41:50
  this up too about like the young flagman.
• 41:52
  And obviously I just saw Benny Miller put in Dylan Cassidy.
• 41:55
  You know, he's been doing such an incredible job.
• 41:58
  It's fun watching him at, at Corgan oil.
• 42:01
  He's been a lot of their shows, but then I know he's been on the
• 42:04
  flags and others. So Tyler, what's it like for you
• 42:06
  when you you already talked about like the, the gentleman
• 42:10
  over at Owasso, the the young gentleman there.
• 42:12
  But what's it like even you know, at Kalamazoo where you see
• 42:15
  all these flaggers that are around, whether it's turn 4, I
• 42:19
  know in turn 2 or turn 1. There's the nephew of the flat,
• 42:24
  the one of the original flaggers at Kalamazoo, or one of the
• 42:28
  historic names at least in flagging and Kalamazoo.
• 42:30
  So what's it like for you that again, you might not be in a
• 42:33
  race car, but you have people who are trying to be just like
• 42:36
  you? It's cool to me.
• 42:40
  I mean, it's cool mainly to get the kids involved and because we
• 42:45
  all know that's the future of the sport and without them
• 42:49
  there, there won't be any racing here in 20-30 years, 10 years,
• 42:54
  whatever. So it's just cool to me to see
• 42:57
  them get involved and enjoy what they're doing rather than just
• 43:03
  be sitting on the phone or not. Absolutely anything whilst we're
• 43:10
  watching Dylan, I mean he is like his double flag, all the
• 43:16
  things, the the one to go that I mean, he is on it and and
• 43:22
  that's, and he's been doing that for many years.
• 43:24
  I mean he started at Springport doing it, you know, but just to
• 43:27
  see like our paths obviously don't cross as much anymore as
• 43:31
  they used to because I'm, you know, we they're at Corrigan or,
• 43:34
  or wherever and I'm opposite side of that.
• 43:36
  But but when I get to Corrigan and they and it's like sometimes
• 43:40
  he's the one who's in my shot, not the flagger on the stand,
• 43:43
  just because of where the finish line is.
• 43:45
  And it's like, man, he's got the double flags going.
• 43:49
  And I'm like, I tried to wave double flags one time, like it
• 43:52
  ain't happening. And it's just not a thing, you
• 43:54
  know, and and I thought that was, you know, that was fun to
• 43:58
  watch him. And so, you know, like I said
• 44:00
  earlier when we first started, right, like you might not be in
• 44:02
  a race car, but you have a lot of people who are watching what
• 44:04
  you do. And you know, with Joel giving
• 44:07
  you the OR whoever gave you the original nickname, Flagman
• 44:09
  Mcgannick, Joel's the one who's I know he's like the one who
• 44:13
  started it. So I've also like, I don't want
• 44:14
  to take credit for someone if it were someone else that came up
• 44:17
  with it. But you know, but with Joe, with
• 44:18
  Flagman and McGann, obviously that sticks, right, Because that
• 44:21
  makes you a part of the show, even though, I mean, you are
• 44:24
  part of the show, but you know, you're in the stand and a lot of
• 44:28
  kids may not know who you are, but with, you know, with Joel
• 44:31
  calling you out all the time, they know who you are.
• 44:34
  They, they see you walking by And I, you know, that's just
• 44:36
  cool when you see the junior flaggers and, and I know you
• 44:40
  guys had that the nephew, great nephew.
• 44:43
  I think Beckett on a few weeks ago, you know, the wave for the
• 44:47
  one race, the green flags and everything.
• 44:49
  And that was pretty cool. But but again, as you said,
• 44:53
  they're the future. So I just wondered, like, yeah,
• 44:55
  you might not be in a race car, but you might just have as many
• 44:57
  fans being in that flag stand as if you were in the race car.
• 45:03
  Another cool thing about that, I believe if I remember right,
• 45:08
  Dylan and his dad Scott got to do it last year at Michigan.
• 45:13
  Cub, Michigan, yeah. And that that's a cool
• 45:18
  experience as well-being a father and son out there on the
• 45:22
  flagstand. And that's another big reason
• 45:26
  why I enjoy flagging is I got to do it with my dad.
• 45:32
  Well, and I have and your dad, I want to get on here one of these
• 45:35
  times too, just because obviously he's done so much in
• 45:37
  the in the world of short track racing himself.
• 45:40
  You know, not only getting in a car, being a part of the mega
• 45:43
  Motorsports, but then just his years and years of experience,
• 45:46
  including putting shows together and all that, that it's like, I
• 45:50
  definitely want to give him that spotlight too, because both you
• 45:54
  and your dad have been, you know, nothing but respectful
• 45:56
  and, and I've gotten a chance to, to get you to know you guys
• 46:00
  through my time at Kalamazoo. And it's like I, and I've also
• 46:03
  gotten to know some of the work that you do for a night of
• 46:07
  destructions because I, I bet I couldn't figure out everything
• 46:11
  you guys do, But I know it's a lot.
• 46:13
  And obviously this Saturday you're going to be super busy,
• 46:17
  you know, getting cars ready, although I know your dad does a
• 46:19
  lot of that too, but really quick.
• 46:21
  Why don't we do a cheap plug before Scott gets on a cheap
• 46:24
  plug for the Calum as you showed this Saturday?
• 46:27
  Because I know you, unless something change, you'll
• 46:29
  probably be in the flag stand. Well, I'll be at Owosso.
• 46:34
  This Oh, you'll be at Owosso. OK, good.
• 46:37
  Night. Oh that's right OK I I thought
• 46:41
  Owosso was dumb but so you won't be the flag stand but your dad
• 46:44
  will be there probably busy working on cars and everything.
• 46:47
  So what is it like for you as you plan these night of
• 46:49
  destructions? Well, we've been there every day
• 46:52
  this week already, preparing cars, changing tires, batteries,
• 46:58
  whatever to get them running to be reliable for the weekend.
• 47:04
  And as of now, we have roughly 20 to 30 cars on the property.
• 47:11
  And we still have, what, 3-4 days to go?
• 47:14
  So there's a good possibility we'll have another 5 to 10 by
• 47:18
  then as well. At least you don't have to do
• 47:21
  too much with the buses this time because they're all new
• 47:23
  buses. You know, Donnie went out and
• 47:25
  got new buses so you don't have to try to resurrect the ones
• 47:28
  that have been dead 40 years ago.
• 47:33
  Yeah, they got a whole fleet of I believe 10 of them.
• 47:38
  Yeah, they yeah. They they usually put on a good
• 47:45
  show. We that's one thing that's been
• 47:49
  a staple of Kalamazoo's night of destructions are the trailer
• 47:54
  races. I mean, at times we average
• 48:00
  upwards to 3035 trucks and trailers and one event.
• 48:06
  It's, it's exciting to be able to see that because I mean, you,
• 48:12
  you take a car and then you take a trailer and multiply it by 35.
• 48:16
  That's almost equivalent to about 70 cars on the track at
• 48:20
  one time, if you think about it. Yep.
• 48:25
  Well, then you had that bottleneck on the front stretch
• 48:27
  at the last one. I mean, I've never seen that
• 48:29
  before when that happened. I mean, it's kind of like a slow
• 48:31
  MO thing where you just saw like it just took one car going in
• 48:34
  the wrong spot before you know, it clean up on aisle, whatever
• 48:39
  that would because it wasn't even all the way to turn one
• 48:41
  that was on the front end of the front stretch that I'm like,
• 48:43
  I've not seen that before, but that was pretty fun.
• 48:47
  So I like I don't know that they planned it that way, but it
• 48:51
  definitely I mean, there's a moment, right?
• 48:53
  You know, it's a moment in a race that stole the night.
• 48:58
  I think for a lot of people, I think that trailer race was the
• 49:00
  best thing they saw that night according to at least to social
• 49:02
  media. And it's like, I know you can't
• 49:05
  have them like that all the time, but you know, when you
• 49:08
  have a well, that's why I don't do my track cameras anymore
• 49:12
  because last year a deer blind took out my backstretch camera
• 49:16
  at Kalamazoo. And at Kalamazoo, I felt that my
• 49:19
  cameras were the safest on the wall for a night of destruction
• 49:22
  until they weren't. And so that's where I'm like,
• 49:24
  I'll have one on the flag stand. And Kenny had usual tell me
• 49:27
  where to put some other ones or give an idea.
• 49:30
  But I'm like, well, I know where I'm not putting them anymore
• 49:34
  because I, you know, I where I thought they would.
• 49:36
  We're safe. They weren't safe.
• 49:38
  So I like I thank you to you know, I know Scott's on here now
• 49:42
  and Amanda is the one who found the camera.
• 49:44
  I was panicking. I'm like it is somewhere around
• 49:46
  here. Thankful for the how patio sign
• 49:50
  that saved it. It didn't fly as far as it could
• 49:53
  have, but that thing got hit. So but again, I know I've kept
• 50:00
  you a little bit longer than than planned, but that's we got
• 50:03
  kind of in a conversation too. So we got started just a little
• 50:06
  bit late pulling you on. But that's where, again, I
• 50:10
  appreciate you coming on, but it's so fun to watch you flag
• 50:13
  and I know you know, it's it may not be the same as being in the
• 50:16
  race car, but just watching, you know, all the kids are trying to
• 50:19
  be just like you. It's like, I don't know if
• 50:22
  you're in the race car, would you blend in with everyone else
• 50:25
  or do you get to stand out now? And so, you know, it's kind of
• 50:28
  one of those like you got all these kids who are trying to be
• 50:30
  just like you and look up to you and what you're doing.
• 50:32
  And that means you must be doing something right, you know,
• 50:34
  because they, they watch you, they'll watch everything that
• 50:37
  you're doing right to the right to the T.
• 50:40
  So, so obviously we're going to miss seeing you at at this night
• 50:45
  of destruction, but you got super shoe coming up and that's
• 50:47
  that's the time that you really get the chance to see it all.
• 50:50
  And you're like, they're racing, like they're a little hungover
• 50:53
  today. That's one of the more exciting
• 51:00
  but at the same time disappointing events because I'm
• 51:04
  always excited for Super Shoe three Day weekend, but then you
• 51:07
  got to think that's the last race night of the season over
• 51:11
  there. Yeah, yeah.
• 51:13
  And this year there's no enduro at Kalamazoo, but the Bad Santa
• 51:17
  won't be at Kalamazoo this year. So, so this truly is the last
• 51:21
  weekend of events at not this weekend.
• 51:23
  Excuse me, but super shoe will be the official last weekend of
• 51:27
  unless something drastically changes between now and
• 51:29
  whenever, but the track will be then closed up for for shop
• 51:35
  until April 2027. So so people running out of
• 51:41
  chances, they got two chances left to get to Kalamazoo this
• 51:43
  year. So obviously a lot of people
• 51:45
  will come for super Shoe because it's Super shoe.
• 51:50
  Although Dalton will have a new baby.
• 51:51
  So Dalton won't be a Super Shoe, but but Michigan Cups.
• 51:55
  So are you going to be at Michigan Cup, Tyler?
• 51:57
  Yes, Sir, Donnie asked me to come help out at Michigan Cups.
• 52:01
  I'll be there as well, all right.
• 52:04
  So I can up that Lewis's offer from 100 to 150 then?
• 52:08
  We can make it happen, perfect. Oh, I see how that goes.
• 52:15
  What if I had? What if I picked a really,
• 52:16
  really good person that you also could agree with?
• 52:18
  Yeah, I need a Black Flag game too.
• 52:20
  And it was mutual. Like it would benefit both of us
• 52:23
  in that moment in time. Maybe, maybe, I don't know, with
• 52:27
  my luck, someone would be like someone behind the flag stand
• 52:29
  would be like, I saw him get the flag in 100 bucks, you know?
• 52:31
  Right, right. Right.
• 52:33
  You're like, oh, you weren't on your phone at that time like you
• 52:35
  should have been. Right, right.
• 52:40
  But I know you are, you know, busy getting things ready too.
• 52:43
  So again, thank you, Tyler, for taking all the time tonight to
• 52:46
  come on our Monday Night Rewind on Wednesday.
• 52:49
  This special edition of the Monday Night Rewind.
• 52:52
  I do hope that people, I know it was maybe weird not having a
• 52:55
  Monday show, but I, you know, I got home from Grundy at 5:00 in
• 52:58
  the morning though, so I probably would have been pretty
• 53:00
  worthless on Monday night because I was tired.
• 53:04
  Have you been a Grundy, Tyler? I've never been there,
• 53:07
  unfortunately, Bahama. Brackets, it's like a super shoe
• 53:12
  you need to get out there and and check it out.
• 53:14
  It's a fun little 1/3 mile track, some banking to it and
• 53:19
  it's where I grew up going. It was the first time since 1997
• 53:22
  I had been there. So not a lot changed, not a lot
• 53:26
  has changed in that on all that time.
• 53:28
  Some things have changed, but not not a lot from at least my
• 53:31
  viewpoint and definitely need to get out there, but I didn't get
• 53:35
  home until 5. Brian Kaseev and I were sitting
• 53:37
  in the stands for a couple hours after the event, just talking,
• 53:41
  talking the night and all that. And then finally got to a point
• 53:43
  where we're like, I think we're the last ones here.
• 53:47
  So so I and in my head when I saw the clock and it was 1
• 53:52
  something, I'm like, it's almost 3:00 at home.
• 53:54
  Like this is going to be a long night.
• 53:57
  And I finally pulled in a five O 9 and the last 70 miles were
• 54:01
  brutal. But it was well worth it though.
• 54:04
  So if you haven't tried Grundy, that's my cheap plug on a
• 54:07
  Wednesday. Get out and try Grundy.
• 54:10
  Just even if it's one day for the Bahama brackets, they'll
• 54:13
  have people all over. It's like a super shoe.
• 54:15
  They have an A class and AB class and then it's broken down
• 54:19
  into there. So like your late models,
• 54:20
  everything will be your A and then generally front wheel
• 54:22
  drives will be your B. But some front wheel drives
• 54:25
  could be in the A class because they're going faster than the
• 54:27
  street stock. So it just kind of depends on
• 54:29
  how fast you go and what you do and what the breakout time is.
• 54:32
  So maybe if you're looking for something due in mid-october and
• 54:36
  have nothing else to do, it's the 16th, 17th, and 18th I
• 54:40
  believe. Maybe you can come on down to
• 54:42
  Bahama brackets. I'd definitely like to check it
• 54:47
  out, see what it's all about, maybe maybe even bring a car.
• 54:52
  You never know. And we'll have Brian on I think
• 54:54
  next Monday or the Monday after we're trying to plan to do
• 54:57
  Bahama talk one more time because now a lot of people are
• 55:00
  talking about it. So you know, a couple Galesburg
• 55:02
  drivers have voice that they want to go on down after having
• 55:05
  him on. And then after seeing clips from
• 55:08
  my page the other day, a few more said that.
• 55:09
  And then I have a serious, you're going to reach out to me
• 55:11
  to say how can I get a hold of Grundy?
• 55:13
  I want my series to go race there.
• 55:14
  So I'm like, you know, now the Grundy's in the ecosystem where
• 55:17
  people are like, what's that track?
• 55:18
  It looks fun and we want to go there.
• 55:20
  So that was the goal, you know, get people out to Grundy.
• 55:22
  It's the only Illinois asphalt track.
• 55:24
  There's no other other than Chicagoland.
• 55:27
  So. So they're running out of tracks
• 55:30
  there that are asphalt. But again, Tyler, I know you
• 55:32
  have a lot of things to do and I know Scott's getting ready.
• 55:34
  So thank you again for joining us tonight.
• 55:37
  I greatly appreciate you guys and Dalton.
• 55:39
  Best of luck for the rest of the season and your new baby.
• 55:43
  Awesome. Thank you.
• 55:43
  I appreciate it. Could you imagine?
• 55:46
  I mean, I know you said next Wednesday, but if we're on the
• 55:48
  show right now and all of a sudden you're like, I got to go,
• 55:51
  you know, like. I would have loved to race this
• 55:54
  weekend, but you know, my luck it would be I'd be on the track
• 55:58
  and all of a sudden she goes into labor and yeah, someone's
• 56:00
  got to get race, can get a hold of me.
• 56:04
  Yeah, random red flag. Yeah, you have to flag me as
• 56:07
  fault. You have to Black Flag me to get
• 56:09
  me off. Be like Dalton, your wife needs
• 56:13
  Yeah, pack you got a special delivery coming.
• 56:17
  But I mean, would that be the thing though?
• 56:19
  Like there's a night of destruction racetrack new Paris
• 56:22
  where they were doing the enduro, but their daughter was
• 56:25
  literally due like the next day. And I said this is what's going
• 56:27
  to happen in this in three hour enduro is you're going to have
• 56:30
  to go because you got to go to the hospital.
• 56:33
  They didn't have to but but it's like that was the talk right?
• 56:36
  Is that when it's going to it's going to happen when you least
• 56:39
  expect it. So and when it's probably not
• 56:41
  maybe the best timing in terms of like what's going on around
• 56:45
  you at that moment, it's like I'm not just sitting on the
• 56:47
  couch, right? Like I'm literally in a race
• 56:49
  car, you know, doing 708090 mph. And now the baby wants to come.
• 56:54
  So, but again, Tyler, we'll let you get going and and good luck
• 57:00
  with everything and enjoy a Wassup this Saturday night.
• 57:03
  All righty, you guys have a good one.
• 57:06
  Again, thank you. You too.
• 57:07
  And Dalton, I've been talking with Tyler Flagman, McGann, a
• 57:11
  head starter over at Kalamazoo Speedway and then obviously over
• 57:14
  at Owosso, and he's also been with National Compact touring
• 57:17
  series at many shows too. Now coming up before we bring in
• 57:21
  Scott again, just an upcoming weeks, don't forget that we're
• 57:25
  not on tomorrow for the Thursday Night Throttle.
• 57:28
  We will be back on September 17th for that.
• 57:30
  That's in every other show. So that'll be just before Super
• 57:33
  Shoe. We'll have Super Shoe
• 57:34
  discussion. October 1st will be just before
• 57:36
  Michigan Cup, but Michigan Cup discussion.
• 57:38
  October 15th is just before Bahama brackets.
• 57:41
  We'll talk Bahama brackets and then I don't know what's going
• 57:43
  on October 29th. That's just when it was the
• 57:45
  next, next available thing. So who knows, something might be
• 57:48
  going on by then. And then starting in November,
• 57:51
  we go to once a month through March for the Thursday night
• 57:54
  throttle. But the Monday night does return
• 57:56
  back to Monday night, next Monday.
• 57:59
  And Dalton really quick before we bring on Scott.
• 58:01
  That's where I had originally planned as you know, that this
• 58:04
  was going to start like our championship discussion.
• 58:06
  I felt like, you know, Monday's the normal time, right, Monday's
• 58:10
  when everyone knows to look for Wednesday's kind of like a wonky
• 58:13
  time. I know Ralph was even on here.
• 58:15
  Night destruction competitor at New Paris.
• 58:16
  She's like, oh, I wasn't expecting a live show tonight.
• 58:20
  And even though we kind of have promoted it, right, it's still
• 58:23
  it's so easy to miss, right, Things are going on.
• 58:25
  So that's where I thought, well, for our champions, you know,
• 58:28
  let's definitely kind of hold off.
• 58:31
  Sometimes I have plans and then I think of like when I really
• 58:35
  sit back and think about it and it gets close, it's like that
• 58:37
  doesn't seem like it's going to be the best choice.
• 58:41
  And so but that's where I'm excited to have Scott on because
• 58:45
  even though he's not, he didn't get that championship, he's damn
• 58:49
  near close to it. And I'm more excited for him to
• 58:51
  get on a school bus this week. And that's why I asked him, Hey,
• 58:54
  you want to come on? But obviously, you know, he's
• 58:56
  done all these different things. He has a baby.
• 58:58
  Not, not maybe he, but Amanda has a baby coming up in October
• 59:03
  and I'm obviously hoping close to, to the 14th because that's
• 59:06
  when my birthday is. And, but if not, I, I, I think
• 59:10
  the due date is at the start of October, if I remember
• 59:13
  correctly. We can when we bring them on, we
• 59:14
  can double check, but just babies coming all over.
• 59:17
  So I'm excited for Scott and Amanda for them.
• 59:21
  When I found out at the South Bend auto show after I found out
• 59:24
  someone was engaged, I'm like, I didn't even know there's a
• 59:27
  thing. Not that you need to be like one
• 59:29
  of the top people to know, but it's like, I would have been
• 59:31
  super excited to know that, you know, Amanda then dropped the
• 59:34
  bomb on me and I'm like, well, wait, how many other people
• 59:37
  know? I want to know how many other
• 59:40
  people know this? I want to know that maybe it's
• 59:42
  someone's life. I'm like in the top tier or
• 59:44
  something. Obviously beyond family.
• 59:46
  I mean, family should know, but so I was thinking about that,
• 59:50
  like, who else knows? But if you're ready, we can
• 59:54
  bring on Scott because I know they just got set up.
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  He too has a race car behind him.
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  So everyone has a race car tonight.
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  I just have trees. You were out of the night.
• 1:00:02
  And no turkeys yet, but you might see turkeys pop up because
• 1:00:05
  they, they're, it's almost their time to come out.
• 1:00:07
  But let's go ahead and let's bring on Scott Gates again.
• 1:00:09
  He makes his debut in a school bus this Saturday at Kalamazoo
• 1:00:14
  Speedway races #46 which used to be a Taylor Sexton car back in
• 1:00:19
  the day. That thing has been through a
• 1:00:21
  lot. But it, it, it's big, bulky, but
• 1:00:24
  it's fast. And so let's go ahead and let's
• 1:00:26
  bring on Scott. So how you doing tonight?
• 1:00:28
  Scott, I'm good. Louis, how are you?
• 1:00:31
  Good. And now you got Dalton with me,
• 1:00:32
  who I know you've gotten a chance to race with too, and in
• 1:00:35
  the National Compact Touring series.
• 1:00:37
  But as you know, I always like to start off with the softball
• 1:00:41
  question of who is Scott Gates? Because what a lot of people may
• 1:00:45
  not realize is that while you're in a race car now, you've done a
• 1:00:48
  lot of different things in your career.
• 1:00:51
  And so if you want to take us a little bit down memory lane and
• 1:00:55
  introduce the world to Scott and then we'll just kind of go from
• 1:00:58
  there. I'm just an average, fun loving
• 1:01:00
  guy. I've, you know, been in a lot of
• 1:01:02
  different things from racing motocross on ATVs to mud bogging
• 1:01:06
  to dirt drags, fair races, doing the bump and runs, demolition
• 1:01:11
  derbies. I don't know anything to get
• 1:01:13
  your blood pumping. I like to get in it.
• 1:01:16
  Well, I'm with the bike racing. I mean you didn't you get some
• 1:01:20
  championships with that or you competed for championships?
• 1:01:22
  I'm trying to remember all the when I've done your spotlights,
• 1:01:26
  So what are some of some of the accolades that you have with
• 1:01:29
  your racing? I've got several state
• 1:01:32
  championships from traveling all over Michigan from the A class
• 1:01:36
  to B class. It's basically the same as our
• 1:01:38
  ABC and the front wheel drives. But yeah, I've, I've got B class
• 1:01:42
  championships, A class. It's age classes 25 + 30 plus.
• 1:01:49
  You know, I did that for 8:00 almost nine years.
• 1:01:52
  And that was, like I said, traveling all across the state
• 1:01:55
  of Michigan, you know, everywhere from up north to east
• 1:01:58
  to West, so. So then I know you were doing
• 1:02:02
  Endarows and that's kind of like what got you the idea of maybe
• 1:02:07
  we can kind of go do this all the time.
• 1:02:09
  So, you know, you and Amanda, we're doing that and kind of
• 1:02:12
  travel all over. So, and now you've been doing
• 1:02:14
  this for a couple years. So what was the big transition
• 1:02:16
  for you going from, you know, doing the enduros and night of
• 1:02:20
  destructions and bike racing and, and all, and the bump and
• 1:02:23
  run derbies and all that to now you know, you're committed every
• 1:02:27
  Friday, Saturday, sometimes Sundays to a racetrack going all
• 1:02:31
  over, you know, doing all that. So what was like the big
• 1:02:33
  transition for you? Not a whole lot.
• 1:02:36
  I mean, I've been around the tracks since I was a young
• 1:02:39
  teenager. You know, I was a young boy
• 1:02:40
  growing up. My neighbor moved in with a
• 1:02:42
  street stock and was racing over at Montville back in the day.
• 1:02:44
  So, you know, I was the young kid going with them and watching
• 1:02:48
  them race and like early in the back in the 80s and back when
• 1:02:52
  the, you know, old Montville was loaded with cars.
• 1:02:56
  So I've been around it all my life and been back and forth and
• 1:02:59
  then, you know, I had a friend hit me up and wanted to go do a
• 1:03:02
  night of destruction down at New Paris.
• 1:03:04
  So I'm like, all right, so I went down and helped out and
• 1:03:06
  then let me get in the car for a couple events and that kind of
• 1:03:10
  got a bug started for myself. I had other friends that were
• 1:03:13
  racing front wheel drives over at Galesburg and I was going and
• 1:03:16
  helping them out and I thought, well, hell, I'm going to the
• 1:03:19
  races. I might as well be doing
• 1:03:20
  something other than wrenching. So I ended up picking up a car
• 1:03:23
  and we jumped into the Enduro series and we did that for a
• 1:03:29
  couple years, me and the old lady, and then we decided to put
• 1:03:34
  cages and everything and actually start doing it weekly.
• 1:03:38
  And that's something that obviously this year I've, you
• 1:03:41
  know, Amanda can't jump into the race car with her being pregnant
• 1:03:44
  and everything, Although I mean, she's down on the ground with
• 1:03:46
  you sometimes changing things and doing things like should you
• 1:03:49
  be doing that? So we shouldn't, but she does.
• 1:03:53
  But it's obvious. I mean, it's it's a passion for
• 1:03:56
  you both and it's something that you get to share.
• 1:03:58
  And she can't come on screen too.
• 1:03:59
  She doesn't have to hide. I'm like, I know you're there.
• 1:04:04
  I saw you earlier. You don't have to, you know, I
• 1:04:06
  know obviously this is Scott's interview, but Amanda, you're
• 1:04:08
  just as much as part of it too. Even if you're not on the
• 1:04:10
  graphic, you still are part of this.
• 1:04:12
  But but that's something that again, I mean, you guys, I know
• 1:04:16
  when we first met, I was at Super Shoe in 2022 and it's
• 1:04:20
  turned into a friendship since then where, you know, you've got
• 1:04:22
  me hooked into PRI and everything where now I look
• 1:04:25
  forward to PRI. And, but what's something like,
• 1:04:30
  obviously you 2 have raced against each other on the track
• 1:04:32
  at the same time, but what's something that you know, makes
• 1:04:35
  us so even when it's stressful? I mean, Scott, you've been out
• 1:04:38
  at Springport and Kalamazoo changing engines to four in the
• 1:04:42
  morning, 5:00 in the morning. I mean, just right, it's in you,
• 1:04:46
  you don't give up, you don't quit.
• 1:04:47
  So, you know, what is it like to have someone like Amanda with
• 1:04:50
  you where you do get to share this passion, You know, every
• 1:04:53
  Friday, every Saturday, sometimes on a Sunday when
• 1:04:56
  you're going to the race tracks around the area.
• 1:04:59
  Yeah, there's nothing better than having a partner that's
• 1:05:01
  into doing exactly what you're doing, understands everything.
• 1:05:04
  So when you're out in the garage putting in them late nights, I
• 1:05:07
  don't have to worry about coming in the house and getting yelled
• 1:05:09
  at for spending all my time working on a damn race car.
• 1:05:11
  So she understands. She knows.
• 1:05:14
  And, you know, sometimes it wasn't just my car.
• 1:05:17
  I was working. On SO yeah, yeah, well, and I
• 1:05:23
  know Amanda, you had a bumpy what, 2024?
• 1:05:26
  I think it was where your car caught on fire.
• 1:05:28
  I mean, you just had all these different things going on at at
• 1:05:30
  Springport where you know, and 02023 OK, and but I know
• 1:05:37
  obviously, Scott, that's something that's always stood
• 1:05:39
  out to me, you and Amanda and and there's even people I saw
• 1:05:43
  obviously a lot of people rooting for you for the
• 1:05:45
  championship and we're not going to go maybe into all the things
• 1:05:47
  there, but it came down to the tiebreaker.
• 1:05:51
  You know, you knew Christian didn't have the faster car,
• 1:05:54
  right, More features and all that kind of deal.
• 1:05:57
  But I mean, just think though, I bet if most people at the
• 1:06:01
  racetrack saw you pull your car off the trailer, they wouldn't
• 1:06:05
  pick it as a front runner wherever, right and even.
• 1:06:08
  I've been told that multiple times.
• 1:06:10
  Everybody loves them in the car and like, look, I ain't worried
• 1:06:12
  about that piece of we got that one beat and then yeah, it that
• 1:06:17
  car's made a lot of people mad and shocked a lot of people.
• 1:06:21
  What do you think? Because it's so big and bulky,
• 1:06:23
  right? It's big, bulky and beautiful,
• 1:06:25
  but at the same time, right, like at Kalamazoo, you know, the
• 1:06:28
  first year when you race there every single week, right, it was
• 1:06:31
  a growth year where I mean, where you started to where you
• 1:06:34
  finish, you're running up with the L CS and you're running, you
• 1:06:37
  know, with the layman's and, and you, you know, you didn't have
• 1:06:41
  as much oomph, but you're also a lot bigger, you know, than those
• 1:06:46
  cars, right? You have a lot more weight that
• 1:06:48
  you're carrying around, but you're able to handle it.
• 1:06:50
  Then you get to Spring Port and you're running, you know, top
• 1:06:53
  two, top three, you're just kind.
• 1:06:55
  You're constantly in the battle there.
• 1:06:58
  You know that that. And Taylor Sexton has said the
• 1:07:00
  same, right? It's like, man, that car is
• 1:07:02
  doing this and can't believe it. And I think what also stands out
• 1:07:06
  is that after the championship and the and people who had a
• 1:07:10
  chance to interact with you at Russell's throughout the year, I
• 1:07:12
  think Nick Extremi was one of them.
• 1:07:13
  And others, you know, praised you and Amanda for just who you
• 1:07:17
  are as people. Right?
• 1:07:18
  Like, you know, yeah, you're competitors, but you're down to
• 1:07:21
  earth and you're easier to talk to and and you're there to have
• 1:07:25
  a good time. And and sometimes it doesn't go,
• 1:07:28
  you know, the flag doesn't always go your way, but you
• 1:07:31
  still come back. You know, you don't let it
• 1:07:32
  defeat you. And so I think, you know, that's
• 1:07:34
  something that stands out to so many people and so many things
• 1:07:37
  I've seen people comment back, you know, who are rooting for
• 1:07:39
  you and cheering you on just because of the person you are.
• 1:07:42
  So if you want to talk a little bit about, you know what,
• 1:07:46
  obviously it's you and Amanda, that's your crew, that's who you
• 1:07:49
  have, right? You sometimes may have help from
• 1:07:51
  others who come, but you know, what does it mean to you then
• 1:07:54
  that for what you 2 are doing that it stands out to everybody
• 1:07:58
  who you know you're doing it, I would say the right way.
• 1:08:03
  It's yeah, it is just the two of us and I'm done.
• 1:08:05
  And it's just me working on the car and basically doing
• 1:08:08
  everything in my driveway or right here on my trailer, you
• 1:08:12
  know, I don't have a big shop, no fancy tools.
• 1:08:14
  I have just what I need to get it done.
• 1:08:16
  So it's, you know, and it's just a love of racing.
• 1:08:21
  I've added it all my life. I've no matter what I'm doing,
• 1:08:23
  I'm going to give 110%, you know, and as you said, every
• 1:08:27
  year is a growing year. I learn more, I get better as a
• 1:08:30
  driver, you know, we always learn something new every year,
• 1:08:35
  no matter what you're doing. Well, and even Dalton, you may
• 1:08:38
  not know this, but Scott and I have a, what do you call that
• 1:08:43
  where your brains, you know, can't communicate with each
• 1:08:46
  other because I might be on the top, on the roof sometimes going
• 1:08:49
  don't do that, don't do that, don't do that, don't do that.
• 1:08:51
  And then he'll stop doing what he's doing and or there ought to
• 1:08:55
  be times afterwards where I get off the roof and we always
• 1:08:58
  connect, almost always connect after the races like so remember
• 1:09:01
  that one time when you did this and you almost did it again
• 1:09:03
  tonight. And he'll know exactly what I'm
• 1:09:05
  talking about. And I always look forward to
• 1:09:08
  when I get off the roof knowing Amanda and Scott are down there
• 1:09:10
  waiting for me. And I mean, then we'll go sit at
• 1:09:13
  loves for another hour and a half or so, you know, just
• 1:09:16
  talking again. I, I enjoy my time with them,
• 1:09:19
  but I know I've asked a lot tonight, Dalton.
• 1:09:21
  So I'm definitely going to kick it over to you because you also
• 1:09:23
  get to race with Scott from time to time with the national
• 1:09:26
  compact touring series when you get to cross paths and
• 1:09:29
  everything. So what do you want to know
• 1:09:31
  about Scott and Amanda? Or what's a good story that you
• 1:09:33
  have that you guys can share? I don't know if I really have a
• 1:09:38
  great story. I I know we've ran together a
• 1:09:41
  couple Times Now, but I don't think we've ran more than four
• 1:09:44
  or five times together really. So I mean the elephant in the
• 1:09:48
  room. I saw you post the car for sale.
• 1:09:50
  So what's what's next? A new.
• 1:09:53
  Car. A new one.
• 1:09:56
  A new shell sitting here that I've been wanting to put
• 1:09:58
  together for the last two years and I just never find time to do
• 1:10:01
  it. So after this, this loss, it not
• 1:10:06
  winning that championship kind of put a little fire in my ass
• 1:10:09
  and I, I'm going to build a new car.
• 1:10:12
  So then it's, you know, about £400 lighter than what I'm
• 1:10:14
  driving and with a little bit more pep to it.
• 1:10:16
  I'm I'm going to come out swinging next year.
• 1:10:19
  And I figure if I sell my car, then I have to do it.
• 1:10:24
  It's not a well, I got a car sitting here.
• 1:10:26
  I don't have to worry about it. It's I got to get it done and.
• 1:10:30
  The M40 deal, I mean, was it your original goal to try and
• 1:10:34
  run for a championship this year or did it just kind of happen
• 1:10:37
  like that? Well, once we found out she was
• 1:10:39
  pregnant and she couldn't race anymore this year, we we
• 1:10:42
  discussed it and I said, well, you know, this year I'd like to
• 1:10:46
  run Kalamazoo and M40 both for points.
• 1:10:48
  You know, every Friday, Saturday night, we'll get do what we can
• 1:10:50
  do there. I said in the next year.
• 1:10:51
  So if I have to, I'll take the year off and you can race and
• 1:10:54
  wherever you want to go. And so, yeah, that was the push
• 1:10:57
  at the beginning of the year. And there was some unfortunate
• 1:11:00
  events for you few others at 40, which handed me the the lead for
• 1:11:04
  a while. And I was like, well, this is
• 1:11:06
  cool, we're going to keep going with it.
• 1:11:09
  Just maybe push even harder for it.
• 1:11:11
  Right. So I with that, I mean, is there
• 1:11:16
  anywhere you want to try? I know you, you guys have been
• 1:11:18
  able to get out pretty well and you know, you've ran Corrigan
• 1:11:22
  and Springport and Kalamazoo and a lot of the West side tracks.
• 1:11:24
  Is there anywhere you'd like to get out to to try maybe next
• 1:11:27
  year or the year after? I don't know, it's it's nice to
• 1:11:34
  be able to travel and hit a few other tracks.
• 1:11:37
  I don't have anything specific really, but it was like when the
• 1:11:40
  national compacts, it was nice when we had an off weekend at
• 1:11:43
  one of our, you know, points tracks, we could go run with
• 1:11:45
  them and someplace new, right? Right.
• 1:11:49
  As of right now, I really don't have any desire to run anywhere
• 1:11:53
  else. I mean, next year we're kind of
• 1:11:55
  focusing in on just running Springport.
• 1:11:57
  So if anything else, if anything else, we'll check it out and go
• 1:12:03
  from there. Yeah, that's always nice to have
• 1:12:06
  too, is have a home to where you know, you're, you can always
• 1:12:09
  count on it every week and you always have somewhere to be.
• 1:12:12
  Like with traveling a lot, it's it's always wondering, OK, we're
• 1:12:16
  going to this place and we got to figure out where everything
• 1:12:18
  is all over again damn near every week.
• 1:12:21
  I mean, other than the tracks that you really know, like the
• 1:12:23
  back of your hand, there's always the four or five that you
• 1:12:25
  get tossed into and you just got to figure out again.
• 1:12:28
  Yeah. It's always someplace new and a
• 1:12:31
  whole new adventure to deal with.
• 1:12:33
  Exactly. I know it was Springport, right?
• 1:12:37
  That's where, you know, I got a chance to really watch what what
• 1:12:41
  your car could do, right. I mean, again, you were at
• 1:12:43
  Kalamazoo. I think 2023 is when you really
• 1:12:46
  started running Kalamazoo consistently because that was
• 1:12:49
  like what your third season in the front wheel drives at that
• 1:12:51
  point. I think so.
• 1:12:53
  I think I'm trying to remember, but you know, that's something.
• 1:12:56
  Again, just to see your growth at Kalamazoo.
• 1:12:58
  I mean, Kalamazoo is a tough place.
• 1:13:00
  I always remind people when they talk about I'm like, you know,
• 1:13:03
  Austin Maynard would tell you that he's struggled at Kalamazoo
• 1:13:05
  before and that guy won at Bristol Motor Speedway and beat
• 1:13:09
  a whole ton of CRA guys while doing it right?
• 1:13:12
  And, and you know, is one of the biggest stages of them all.
• 1:13:16
  And he'll tell you, man, I just get to Kalamazoo and it's a
• 1:13:18
  struggle, right? And so I always tell people, you
• 1:13:21
  know, if you can go and figure out like a new Paris, which is a
• 1:13:24
  technical track in a lot of ways, and you can go and figure
• 1:13:27
  out Kalamazoo, which is just quality elite talent across the
• 1:13:31
  board. Even your C guy, you know, could
• 1:13:33
  go other tracks and compete really well that you know, it's
• 1:13:38
  just something that it says a lot that, you know, you
• 1:13:40
  dedicated to it. And now do you feel like your
• 1:13:43
  run at Kalamazoo has helped any at all at M40 since they're
• 1:13:48
  similar ish or, you know, obviously, you know, M40 has the
• 1:13:53
  character in turn 3 and a tighter turn 4 and and that kind
• 1:13:56
  of deal. But do you feel like anything
• 1:13:59
  that you've taken from Kalamazoo has helped you at M40 or do you
• 1:14:02
  feel opposite? Like I always like asking people
• 1:14:05
  how maybe one track helps them at another.
• 1:14:08
  They're very they're, they're similar, but yet they're totally
• 1:14:11
  different. You know, they want to seat
• 1:14:14
  time. Seat time helps every driver you
• 1:14:16
  get to learn, you get to try different lines.
• 1:14:20
  As far as taking one from the other, I don't know if I really
• 1:14:22
  have. It's just a matter of I said
• 1:14:25
  seat time in your car, knowing your car, knowing what your car
• 1:14:28
  is going to do in a tight corner, in a loose corner, you
• 1:14:31
  know, highline low line. It's it's you got.
• 1:14:35
  It's like I said, every track is something new from one from one
• 1:14:38
  night to the next. Salem Zoo even changes up from
• 1:14:40
  one week to the next. Right.
• 1:14:43
  Yeah. And that's why I thought I would
• 1:14:45
  ask because, you know, I think, you know, another way that I
• 1:14:49
  think of it too is, you know, you get to run again with just a
• 1:14:54
  lot of amazing drivers. I calendars you on a Friday that
• 1:14:58
  you know, like, hey, I can hang with you have, you know, you
• 1:15:01
  might not pass them yet, but then you can hang with a Matthew
• 1:15:05
  LC junior of Matt LC, a Scott LC, right?
• 1:15:09
  Cars that are obviously like 50,000 lbs lighter than you, you
• 1:15:13
  know, like again, smaller cars, fat, you know, but you're
• 1:15:17
  hanging with them again, you're not getting blown out by them,
• 1:15:20
  right? You're hanging with them that I
• 1:15:22
  think that has to be a thing. Then you know, when you go to
• 1:15:25
  other tracks like, hey, if I could do this with this group of
• 1:15:28
  talent, I can do this at a lot of places because a lot of
• 1:15:32
  places aren't going to have all that talent in one spot at one
• 1:15:34
  time usually. And that's nothing against other
• 1:15:36
  tracks, but on Saturdays you all spread out more right on.
• 1:15:40
  It's easy on Friday nights for everyone to be in one place at
• 1:15:42
  one time because you're either racing dirt at Hartford or
• 1:15:44
  you're racing asphalt at Kalamazoo or Corgan Oil, where
• 1:15:49
  on Saturdays now everyone kind of separates and they go to
• 1:15:51
  Galesburg and 40 new pairs Owosso next year with
• 1:15:54
  Springport, right? It's not, it's not the same
• 1:15:56
  talent in the same pool at the same time.
• 1:15:58
  And so, you know, that's why I kind of wonder that because I
• 1:16:01
  mean, there's just is there's no, there's no denying it.
• 1:16:04
  Kalamazoo has elite talent every Friday that you know, a lot of
• 1:16:08
  our B features would be someone that's a feature on any given
• 1:16:11
  night and so. Every track, every track has
• 1:16:14
  their top five that are pretty much that track they've been
• 1:16:17
  working at it state that's their home place.
• 1:16:19
  Their setups are set right. So anybody to walk in there to
• 1:16:22
  think that they're going to be a top five car, you know, it
• 1:16:26
  better have a pretty damn good car.
• 1:16:27
  You know, for me, I can go. I feel like I can go with any
• 1:16:31
  track and be, you know, I'm, I'll say I'm 1/5 to 1/10 place
• 1:16:36
  car anywhere I go and I'm good with that.
• 1:16:39
  I know what my car is. I know it's heavier, I'm
• 1:16:41
  outmoded, but I'm going to do the best I can with what I've
• 1:16:44
  got. You don't.
• 1:16:46
  Have the changes that other people can make.
• 1:16:48
  Yeah, Yeah. Again, because I mean, you're
• 1:16:51
  like I said before, you're big and you're bulky.
• 1:16:54
  A lot of people probably wouldn't expect what they get
• 1:16:57
  out of your car. And so that's just against
• 1:16:59
  credit to you that you're able to pull what you can out of that
• 1:17:01
  car where most people probably look at them and go, how like,
• 1:17:06
  how are you doing that? And that's what makes me think
• 1:17:08
  too. Obviously, Benny Miller is
• 1:17:10
  someone who's been in your guys corner too a lot.
• 1:17:13
  He shared that you guys used to race together on even the dirt
• 1:17:16
  bikes too. So, you know, that's where he
• 1:17:19
  said ask them how we met the first time and when Amanda's
• 1:17:21
  nickname was is it? Although I'm here.
• 1:17:28
  OK, well, we're not after 9:00, so we definitely can't get away
• 1:17:31
  with it. If it's not PG after 9:00, we're
• 1:17:34
  a fair game. But we're not and we're, I don't
• 1:17:36
  plan to be on by 9:00. So maybe I'll have to know that
• 1:17:41
  when you, when we cross path, oh, we'll cross paths on
• 1:17:43
  Saturday. We can just do the abbreviated
• 1:17:45
  version. It was one of our first nights
• 1:17:48
  up at Spring Park. I was sitting up in the chute
• 1:17:51
  waiting for the A class to go out.
• 1:17:52
  She was in the B and she was out.
• 1:17:53
  Oh, CC. That night.
• 1:17:56
  She was. First time on the track ever.
• 1:17:58
  Like actually. She it was her first race ever
• 1:18:00
  really getting out on the track, getting to know the car.
• 1:18:02
  She was running up through the pack and she was actually
• 1:18:05
  challenging. I think it was Benny for the
• 1:18:07
  lead and I'm like holy shit, that's a she's actually going to
• 1:18:12
  win her first ever race and here I am without a feature win and
• 1:18:15
  she's going to get one her first night out.
• 1:18:17
  I'm like well this sucks but cool to her.
• 1:18:20
  They had a caution and everybody got re stacked up, but they took
• 1:18:23
  back off with a couple to go. Next flag ended.
• 1:18:27
  And yeah, they had enough in there that the flagman and the
• 1:18:30
  race director were done dealing with everybody.
• 1:18:31
  So they said next flag ends the race.
• 1:18:34
  Well, they're coming down the front stretch taking the white
• 1:18:36
  flag and I watch them come out of four and Benny arcs up making
• 1:18:40
  the nice big sweep while she goes to the bottom of the track
• 1:18:43
  and running down the front stretch on the bottom.
• 1:18:45
  I'm like, no, I'm watching this in a shoot.
• 1:18:48
  I'm like, no, you can't take corner one from the bottom.
• 1:18:51
  That's just not going to work. And she just drives right into
• 1:18:54
  the corner and then Benny's arcing down.
• 1:18:57
  She's coming up next to him and just drives right into the side
• 1:18:59
  of him. And I'm like.
• 1:19:03
  And at that point, April says hi there.
• 1:19:07
  Her nickname was that bitch. BIT.
• 1:19:13
  Yeah, well, that that kind of SAT for a little while.
• 1:19:15
  I mean, we went over apologize and you know it.
• 1:19:19
  You know, they understood first time out.
• 1:19:21
  She's got a lot to learn so. But she came a long ways from
• 1:19:24
  there. But then Ben likes to launch off
• 1:19:26
  of me. He's launched off me multiple
• 1:19:28
  different times. I've seen the side of his car,
• 1:19:31
  I've been in front of him and he's hit me and launched off of
• 1:19:33
  me. So.
• 1:19:35
  But those are great, that Motörhead and all them guys are
• 1:19:38
  a great group of people. We've actually made a really
• 1:19:40
  good friendship with them. When we built the Rangers and
• 1:19:42
  went down to Bristol, they went with us so.
• 1:19:46
  Well, and then Benny, I think still has that Ranger.
• 1:19:49
  I know you sold your Ranger if I remember correctly after you
• 1:19:52
  sent it mine. Went down to Texas.
• 1:19:55
  Yep, and but again, and we all were Donna Pairi together last
• 1:20:01
  year too, and that was again, that was a lot of fun.
• 1:20:04
  You know, just have everybody in the same spot at the same time.
• 1:20:07
  And it's kind of like again, it's at Springport feel, you
• 1:20:09
  know, you just get around everyone who you just you know,
• 1:20:11
  Springport just has a way of feeling like family, right.
• 1:20:14
  You know, it's an extended family, but you know, like, hey,
• 1:20:17
  these people, you know, have my back.
• 1:20:19
  These people, we're all in this together and just enjoying it,
• 1:20:22
  right, and doing things we enjoy.
• 1:20:23
  But. You know, but that's where,
• 1:20:26
  again, it's just think of the friendships that you've been
• 1:20:28
  able to build and it, and it's how you guys do it.
• 1:20:31
  I mean, like I said, you, you just approach things in a way
• 1:20:36
  where you're down to earth and, you know, easy to talk to.
• 1:20:39
  And I think that's the thing that sometimes gets overshadowed
• 1:20:43
  in a competition, right? It said sometimes it's
• 1:20:45
  competition. You'd be like, OK, I'm a little
• 1:20:46
  mad or frustrated, right? You know 'cause that can happen,
• 1:20:49
  but it's the end of the. Day you have to leave it all on
• 1:20:54
  the track you're going to be frustrated with things that
• 1:20:57
  happen, but you know, we're usually one of the last ones to
• 1:21:01
  leave any track we're at. I, I, I'm the kind of guy that
• 1:21:04
  likes to hang out and talk to people and you know, with
• 1:21:06
  friends and have a good time and bullshit and, you know, take
• 1:21:09
  jabs at each other. You know, to me, that's what
• 1:21:11
  that's the camaraderie was just as much fun as the racing
• 1:21:14
  usually. Oh yeah.
• 1:21:18
  When I was doing the motocross thing, that's what we do.
• 1:21:20
  Most of the tracks went and stayed the night at so we'd have
• 1:21:22
  campfires and bullshit sessions and, you know, cookouts and
• 1:21:26
  everybody get together and we all just have a good time.
• 1:21:29
  You know, I missed that card of things where, you know, there's
• 1:21:32
  certain tracks you go to and there's there's the groups,
• 1:21:35
  every track has their groups that, you know, they all hang
• 1:21:37
  out together, associate together.
• 1:21:39
  There's not the the big family feel where everybody hangs out,
• 1:21:43
  you know? Well, and what's on the menu for
• 1:21:48
  Michigan Cup this year? Because Amanda always seems to
• 1:21:50
  have something good. Well, I know well, Super Shoe
• 1:21:54
  and Michigan. Yeah, I have my chili.
• 1:21:56
  Yeah. As far as anything special right
• 1:21:59
  now, we're kind of leery on what's going to happen at
• 1:22:02
  because that is within like a week of the due date.
• 1:22:06
  Yeah, I'm going for October 14th.
• 1:22:08
  That's what I went 13th or 14th somewhere nearby.
• 1:22:11
  That's what I'm looking for. But that's that's obviously a
• 1:22:15
  lot past or no, because your original due date demand was
• 1:22:18
  what like around the 9th? The 10th.
• 1:22:20
  It's the 10th. They move, they have it as the
• 1:22:22
  eighth because I kind of since the beginning I was kind of
• 1:22:24
  going, they moved it up a couple days.
• 1:22:26
  So that's what they have it as. I'll find out more tomorrow if
• 1:22:29
  it changes anymore. So OK.
• 1:22:32
  Yeah, so coming, I mean. You gotta go long.
• 1:22:34
  We can't have this thing come early.
• 1:22:36
  We're on Michigan Cup. Yeah, well, I mean, like I said,
• 1:22:40
  I mean, Don's made it through almost the entire show right now
• 1:22:42
  where, you know, he doesn't have to worry because you said next
• 1:22:45
  Wednesday. So it's like, you know, we timed
• 1:22:47
  it just right to have him on as a Co host because if I would
• 1:22:50
  have asked and say, hey, next week it might be like, well, I'm
• 1:22:53
  currently doing stuff with the new baby.
• 1:22:56
  But so it's like perfect timing to have him and Ambusha and I
• 1:23:00
  have talked about getting Dalton back on just because his
• 1:23:02
  episode, if you remember, was just we had all those audio
• 1:23:05
  issues going on. And now we figured out that, you
• 1:23:08
  know, between in one setting that it was opposite of what I
• 1:23:12
  had in headphones. That's pretty much what solved a
• 1:23:14
  lot of this. So, and tonight we haven't had
• 1:23:16
  that issue even though we've had, you know, two out of the
• 1:23:18
  three people on the screen at one time have been on phones,
• 1:23:21
  right? So I'm like, well, you know, it
• 1:23:23
  is what it is. It all, it's all where I was
• 1:23:25
  worried about them like, oh, I'm going to see this tonight.
• 1:23:27
  But it's not been an issue. So it's like 1 setting and me
• 1:23:30
  having headphones as to what the difference was.
• 1:23:32
  But if you see me sidebar, it's because Joel sent me something
• 1:23:36
  and I'm like, I want to know what this is.
• 1:23:38
  But anyways, with that, Scott, you get to and then I'm going to
• 1:23:43
  pass it over back to Dalton. You get to go to a school bus
• 1:23:47
  this Saturday. I know you got asked.
• 1:23:50
  I found out the other day when I was driving home that you got to
• 1:23:53
  be in the bus. I said, oh, that's going to be
• 1:23:54
  super exciting. So what are you excited for
• 1:23:57
  that? What's it going to be like for
• 1:23:58
  you to drive a bus? Well, first question is going to
• 1:24:01
  be is do we have to save the buses or is this anything goes,
• 1:24:05
  then the buses can be done after we're done with this night.
• 1:24:08
  Because if they say we don't have to worry about saving the
• 1:24:11
  buses, you better hold on to your ass because it's going to
• 1:24:13
  be a show. I actually don't know that
• 1:24:18
  answer. Donnie is going to know that
• 1:24:21
  answer because, you know, he's the one who got behind the deal
• 1:24:24
  to get the if I understand correctly, and I could be wrong
• 1:24:27
  on all the details, but I know he's the one who worked to get
• 1:24:30
  these buses. And so I don't know if it's a
• 1:24:33
  similar deal to like what they have at Galesburg where hey,
• 1:24:37
  they're done that night. We're going to take them back to
• 1:24:39
  the junkyard anyways or if they want some longevity out of them.
• 1:24:43
  So I think that's a that's a Donny Ritter question.
• 1:24:46
  I don't know that answer or that might be a Kenny Head question.
• 1:24:50
  My guess is that they're going to want the fleet around a
• 1:24:52
  little bit, but I don't know, they might just say send it so.
• 1:24:56
  If they will keep it around, we'll we'll drive semi
• 1:24:58
  respectful. We're still going to put on a
• 1:25:00
  show, but. Oh yeah.
• 1:25:02
  How to save it? But if they say have at it,
• 1:25:05
  we're going to have some fun. The right answer to that
• 1:25:08
  question, Lewis, was ask for forgiveness, not for permission.
• 1:25:12
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm wearing a Kalamazoo
• 1:25:16
  shirt right now, so I want to be careful on how that that
• 1:25:20
  permission goes just because I don't want to be on the roof and
• 1:25:23
  then get yelled at because I said something wrong.
• 1:25:25
  So. Back there a week later for
• 1:25:27
  Super Shoe. I don't want to have to have
• 1:25:28
  somebody scowling at me when I. Right, right, that the well, and
• 1:25:32
  that's the thing too, that, you know, every track does their bus
• 1:25:36
  racing a little different, right, like Galesburg, they just
• 1:25:38
  send them and crash them and, you know, tip them over and do
• 1:25:40
  all the things. Kalamazoo wants them a couple
• 1:25:42
  times. Corrigan oil kind of does a
• 1:25:45
  similar thing to Galesburg, but they kind of want them a couple
• 1:25:48
  times too because they're not always cheap to get.
• 1:25:51
  So I think that's the that's The thing is that it's more so of
• 1:25:54
  replacing them and the cost that you can get for the junk part of
• 1:25:57
  it. But don't have you done a bus
• 1:26:00
  race or anything wonky or weird? Like I know Scott, he did the
• 1:26:03
  the danger Ranger and the dirt at Bristol missed that huge pile
• 1:26:09
  up that happened on the front stretch.
• 1:26:10
  Him and Amanda were in front of it and it happened all or no.
• 1:26:14
  Amanda, were you just behind it and got through it?
• 1:26:16
  No. We were in front.
• 1:26:17
  Of it, yeah, In front of. It the guy that actually started
• 1:26:20
  it all doored Scott and I was up on the high side by the wall
• 1:26:23
  when that happened. So like I seen it coming.
• 1:26:26
  I hugged the wall and kept going and Scott got doored and then it
• 1:26:30
  just started all behind him. Oh yeah, I mean that when I saw
• 1:26:35
  that on TVI went, oh, like that was a moment.
• 1:26:39
  And so so they've done that right.
• 1:26:42
  They've done night of destructions everything.
• 1:26:43
  So don't have you ever ventured out and did anything like that
• 1:26:46
  or have you just stuck with like turning left and going fast?
• 1:26:50
  Mostly just turning left and going fast.
• 1:26:52
  No night of destruction stuff. Really.
• 1:26:54
  I've wanted to get into a stagger car.
• 1:26:57
  I got to figure out who to talk to about that.
• 1:27:00
  I feel like that would be fun. The weirdest thing I've ever
• 1:27:03
  done is back when I ran Hornets at Auto City, we had a 60 lap
• 1:27:08
  race and they had two tracks. So they had a quarter mile on
• 1:27:11
  the inside, which we were running on, and then the half
• 1:27:13
  mile on the outside. At some point during the race
• 1:27:17
  you had to change a tire, but you weren't allowed to have
• 1:27:20
  power tools. You had to use a four way or a
• 1:27:23
  ratchet or something. It was, it was fun, it was
• 1:27:26
  interesting. I don't know if I'd do it again,
• 1:27:29
  but it was something different. Yeah, I I did it in the Dural
• 1:27:34
  once. That was my one only time in a
• 1:27:36
  race. I, you know, that's where going
• 1:27:40
  back to Grundy, I'm like this is where I dreamt of being a race
• 1:27:42
  car and went in the Daytona 500 and doing all the things.
• 1:27:44
  Obviously I not going to win the Daytona 500 ever And but I, I'm
• 1:27:51
  doing my part in racing still. I found a way.
• 1:27:53
  You know, I still wouldn't probably believe it if I went
• 1:27:55
  back and told my 4th grade S, 3rd grade, 3rd and 4th grade S
• 1:27:59
  that, Hey, you know, you're going to be a part of racing
• 1:28:01
  someday and at the racetrack and doing all these things and
• 1:28:04
  you're going to have Kenny Wallace on a podcast and, and
• 1:28:07
  you know, on all these historic names and everything.
• 1:28:10
  Like I wouldn't, you know, that would be something different and
• 1:28:13
  cool that I'd be like, oh, you know, you just don't know that
• 1:28:16
  right. As a kid, like what you do get
• 1:28:18
  to do. And so, but I got to do the
• 1:28:20
  enduro. Gary Howe talked me into doing
• 1:28:22
  the enduro. That was when they after they
• 1:28:24
  recruited me. So at South Bend on championship
• 1:28:27
  night in 2022, Gary Howe said, so no other tracks that we have
• 1:28:32
  to worry about right next year. And I wasn't like picking up
• 1:28:34
  what he's laying down. And then finally he said it
• 1:28:37
  again. I'm like, oh, I get it now.
• 1:28:39
  And and so that was pretty cool to be offered the Kalamazoo
• 1:28:42
  spot, right? And then then it was that
• 1:28:45
  November for Jew Jack's Bad Santa that the night that Amanda
• 1:28:50
  won the evil elf or whatever that was called the Little
• 1:28:56
  Santa's Little Helper or whatever, whatever the ladies
• 1:29:01
  enduro was, you know, she. I think it was just ladies
• 1:29:03
  enduro. Ladies enduro so she.
• 1:29:05
  Had one of the little names, but I don't remember.
• 1:29:07
  Yeah, so you know, the the day that she won her enduro was the
• 1:29:10
  day that I got to make my debut in the big enduro.
• 1:29:14
  And that was the one and only time that I, you know, that I've
• 1:29:17
  been in a race and done all that and it was fun.
• 1:29:21
  But that's when it was the night of destruction style.
• 1:29:24
  And I'm like, that's not the kind of enduros that I grew up
• 1:29:27
  on, right? I grew up on the Illinois system
• 1:29:29
  of enduros. And so the way that Jew Jack
• 1:29:32
  doesn't now I, you know, might consider one of these days
• 1:29:35
  getting back into it an enduro if they race that style.
• 1:29:39
  But if they're just going to go out and crash each other and hit
• 1:29:41
  each other and do all the things, then that's not the kind
• 1:29:44
  of enduro that I'm going to go to.
• 1:29:45
  So I'll save that for a night of destruction.
• 1:29:47
  You know, New Paris does that great job at a night of
• 1:29:50
  destruction with their enduros. Obviously will have that style
• 1:29:53
  of enduro this Saturday at Kalamazoo.
• 1:29:55
  That's just a crash fest. So I like a race race, the race
• 1:29:59
  of endurance and so so with that Dalton, I know we're getting low
• 1:30:04
  on time here. Do you have any other things
• 1:30:07
  that you want to know about Scott and or Amanda while we
• 1:30:09
  have them on especially? I thought you guys had raced a
• 1:30:12
  little bit more than four or five times.
• 1:30:14
  So I'm like, oh, I learned something new.
• 1:30:15
  I thought you guys had crossed paths more.
• 1:30:17
  No, not really, I'm sure. There's nothing that comes off
• 1:30:21
  the top of my head as of now, but I do know if there is
• 1:30:25
  something I'll find you at Springport.
• 1:30:28
  Definitely. Now, are you going to be there
• 1:30:30
  on the? 11th at.
• 1:30:32
  Springport, Scott. Or even Dalton, are you guys
• 1:30:34
  going to head out to Springport this Friday night for their
• 1:30:37
  practice session or anything like that?
• 1:30:39
  I won't. I'm actually trying to get a
• 1:30:41
  car. Ready for our local?
• 1:30:43
  Fair. So I'll be busy working.
• 1:30:45
  OK, yeah, we got a bump and run coming up that one of my
• 1:30:48
  sponsors gave me a car to go run.
• 1:30:50
  So OK, I'll be working on getting that ready for Wednesday
• 1:30:53
  night and. Then.
• 1:30:56
  After that I'll be preparing, going and picking up a camper.
• 1:30:58
  And getting everything else ready.
• 1:30:59
  For Super Shoe, it's hard to believe it's almost here.
• 1:31:03
  Super shoe, I mean. That's what's crazy now, Dalton,
• 1:31:06
  do you know if you'll be heading over to Springport this Friday
• 1:31:10
  night? For and for anyone watching, If
• 1:31:11
  you don't know, Springport is doing open practice this Friday
• 1:31:14
  for Michigan Cup prep. Do you plan to head over that
• 1:31:17
  way or probably with baby coming, though might be risky.
• 1:31:22
  Yeah, with baby coming, it's tough.
• 1:31:24
  I mean, I'm I? Passing up racing at Birch Run,
• 1:31:27
  which is 3 miles from my house, so I don't know if I can make
• 1:31:30
  the eight mile pull to Spring Port.
• 1:31:32
  So I think we're going to pass on that.
• 1:31:33
  But we will be there all three days for the Michigan What I
• 1:31:37
  know, I'm looking forward to Mission Cop.
• 1:31:39
  Whether I'm there as a fan or if I get to do media stuff doesn't
• 1:31:42
  matter. I want to come up and support
• 1:31:43
  Donnie and the crew there. I have it right now as a media
• 1:31:48
  side, but if he's like, no, I got something else, then I'll be
• 1:31:51
  there as a fan because again, it's going to be there to
• 1:31:53
  support the drivers and support everybody and just to feel back
• 1:31:57
  at at home, whatever that looks like, because I I'm excited for
• 1:32:00
  his leadership to take back over.
• 1:32:02
  I know Amanda Scott, you guys have been by you know his side a
• 1:32:05
  lot to follow him at Springport and that Kalamazoo.
• 1:32:08
  So any good Donnie Ritter stories while we can go like
• 1:32:12
  good, good, not like he yelled at you or something like that,
• 1:32:16
  but like a fun memory that you guys have a not, I shouldn't say
• 1:32:19
  memory like he's gone, but like a memory that like you knew that
• 1:32:22
  Donnie's like the right guy, Not right off the top of my head.
• 1:32:27
  I. Just like it to give him crap.
• 1:32:28
  When he pushed me in the infield on fire yet so.
• 1:32:31
  Yeah, I wasn't on fire. So yeah, Dalton.
• 1:32:37
  Any. Any good interactions with
• 1:32:39
  'cause I think that's. A thing that you hear a lot of
• 1:32:41
  people. Where was I?
• 1:32:43
  So Grundy? The Broody's I was talking with,
• 1:32:47
  I think it was his dad, Tony's dad and they were they their
• 1:32:50
  home track is Grundy. They're not that far from
• 1:32:53
  Grundy, but they race at Kalamazoo every year.
• 1:32:55
  This year, and I won't share all the details, but one thing that
• 1:32:58
  they found super impressive is that Donnie came down and always
• 1:33:02
  talked with the drivers and thanked them for coming.
• 1:33:04
  Found time in his night, you know, to do that with whatever
• 1:33:07
  else he was doing always and he did it I'm like well he did that
• 1:33:10
  at Supreme Court too because they're going to go to Michigan
• 1:33:12
  cup. They they're planning super
• 1:33:15
  shoot but they're definitely going to Michigan Cup because
• 1:33:17
  they want to support Donnie and what he's done in the impression
• 1:33:20
  that he left on them. And so I think that's the thing
• 1:33:23
  right that you know I didn't get a chance to meet Donnie at the
• 1:33:26
  my first Michigan cup. It was a very brief interaction
• 1:33:29
  because he was busy, but I got to know him through 2023 and he
• 1:33:34
  was unsure of me at first, like when I first messaged and
• 1:33:37
  offered to be there and do these things and how much I love the
• 1:33:40
  track. Like, you know, he, he'd tell
• 1:33:42
  you like you're kind of unknown. I didn't know what to think.
• 1:33:45
  And then but we got to got to know each other and he got to
• 1:33:49
  see that, you know, I really care about this place and, and
• 1:33:51
  what he does and, and everything.
• 1:33:53
  But that's what is always even stood out to me.
• 1:33:55
  It's just the way that he, you know, the way that he handles a
• 1:33:59
  lot of things and the way that he does it with the
• 1:34:01
  professionalism, even if he's a little salty at the moment, you
• 1:34:05
  know that, you know, at the end of the day, right, he's going to
• 1:34:08
  do most things with respect. You know, he's going to treat
• 1:34:11
  you with respect. He's going to, you know, he's
• 1:34:13
  going to try to make things right.
• 1:34:14
  And I think when you hear other people who don't interact with
• 1:34:17
  him as much talk about those kind of things, it's like,
• 1:34:20
  again, that's why I was telling him, you know, he was the right
• 1:34:22
  guy for Kalamazoo. When Kalamazoo needed somebody,
• 1:34:25
  you know, he was the right guy. He he inherited what he
• 1:34:29
  inherited last year. This year got to be his.
• 1:34:32
  And, you know, it's a little different when you get to mold
• 1:34:35
  it yourself. And so, and I mean, car counts
• 1:34:39
  were up on a lot of nights comparative year to year.
• 1:34:42
  And people come back, people mostly leaving happy on most
• 1:34:46
  nights. Not every night, you know,
• 1:34:47
  you're not going to make everyone happy, but most nights
• 1:34:50
  most people are happy. And I think that's the thing
• 1:34:52
  with the awesome clash. I mean packed.
• 1:34:54
  So so that's why I thought, well, while we're talking about
• 1:34:57
  Michigan Cup, like what makes you go back?
• 1:34:59
  Because a lot of people say it's Donnie, because obviously last
• 1:35:01
  year the car count was not what it was in past years.
• 1:35:05
  And that was a big factor. So Oh, oh, you know what?
• 1:35:09
  Dalton got a notification if he's on his phone, that's why he
• 1:35:11
  disappeared. But I know Scott, you're fading
• 1:35:15
  into the dark. I'm.
• 1:35:15
  Fading into the dark because I. Like being outside I, you know,
• 1:35:18
  it's not like a fancy studio. Like I watch other podcasts.
• 1:35:21
  I have all these fancy studios and everything and like, I just
• 1:35:23
  want to feel like I'm sitting in a pit area, you know?
• 1:35:26
  But I know you're definitely fading.
• 1:35:27
  I mean, Amanda's at this point where if she put on a match, she
• 1:35:30
  could be in Scary Movie or something.
• 1:35:32
  So but and I know we've kept you a little bit longer too.
• 1:35:36
  So again, Scott think and Amanda, thank you for coming on
• 1:35:39
  tonight and being part of this. I know we'll be seeing each
• 1:35:41
  other on Saturday. Congratulations on your run at
• 1:35:44
  M40. Like I said, I was rooting for
• 1:35:46
  you and hoping and and obviously I know the point sentence
• 1:35:49
  shakedown your way, but I think it's now you know what you can
• 1:35:52
  do. And you did it with a car that
• 1:35:54
  was like 50,000 lbs heavier than anything else on the track that
• 1:35:58
  day. So I think that he had to erase
• 1:36:01
  my car two nights out of all that too.
• 1:36:03
  So it was. Even the big out of all of them,
• 1:36:06
  too. And he took him off the top
• 1:36:07
  five. Out of it at certain.
• 1:36:08
  Times. So yeah, Dalton definitely got a
• 1:36:12
  notification or his phone died. Either his phone died, but I
• 1:36:14
  think because of how the screen went black that he got a
• 1:36:16
  notification which means it bumped him off so he might be
• 1:36:19
  trying to get back on. But that's that's my phone rang.
• 1:36:23
  Yep, See, I was right. He got a notification.
• 1:36:26
  So he said my phone rang and I'm like, that's what does it.
• 1:36:28
  And I learned that because around Rash, it happened around
• 1:36:32
  Rash. And so ever since then, when I
• 1:36:34
  see something's happening, like, oh, they're getting
• 1:36:35
  notifications right now on their phone.
• 1:36:37
  But other than that, I know you're fading into the darkness
• 1:36:41
  there. And before, like I said, you
• 1:36:42
  know, you're going to have like a face pop up behind you or
• 1:36:45
  something that's going to be like, yeah, it's going to be
• 1:36:48
  like, I think it's, you know. Now we're doing a scare fest,
• 1:36:51
  but. Other than that, I'm going to
• 1:36:52
  tell Dalton that he can come back, that we're only going to
• 1:36:55
  be on like about four a few more minutes because I'm going to
• 1:36:57
  talk about Grundy. So for everyone watching, if
• 1:37:00
  they've not been a Grundy, I'm getting I'm messaging him.
• 1:37:05
  You can still get back if you'd like.
• 1:37:08
  If not, I'll just shut it myself.
• 1:37:10
  But but I want to praise Grundy. So I mean, you can stay around
• 1:37:13
  for the praise Grundy if you want.
• 1:37:14
  I I'm not we're going. I got nothing going on tonight,
• 1:37:17
  OK? Dalton's back too, but.
• 1:37:22
  I was right. You got a notification?
• 1:37:24
  I got a phone call and it kicked me out.
• 1:37:27
  Yeah. I'm like when when the screen
• 1:37:29
  went black, I'm like that's a notification.
• 1:37:31
  And but that I was wrapping up with Scott, but I said that we
• 1:37:34
  could just have a chit chat thing.
• 1:37:36
  And I said they're welcome to stay around if they want to.
• 1:37:38
  Because I know sometimes when I put people in the staging area,
• 1:37:40
  like Benny did this I think last week or two weeks ago, whenever
• 1:37:43
  we had him on, he was just hanging there for the rest of
• 1:37:45
  the show. Listen and watch.
• 1:37:46
  And so I'm like, I guess he could have stayed on, but but I
• 1:37:49
  wanted to talk a little bit about Grundy because I know I
• 1:37:51
  know why we have people on Bahama brackets.
• 1:37:54
  Is that third weekend? I would say third weekend of
• 1:37:56
  October, it's like the 16th, 17th and 18th for Bahama
• 1:38:02
  brackets. We're going to have Brian
• 1:38:03
  Kuseba, the race director back on the Monday Night Rewind just
• 1:38:08
  to talk about it. And so I know there's lots of
• 1:38:10
  Galesburg drivers who also race at Kalamazoo.
• 1:38:13
  I think I'm up to 9 right now counted drivers who have, can
• 1:38:17
  you know, have said they want to go to Grundy after having Brian
• 1:38:19
  Kasaba on. So we're going to talk Bahama
• 1:38:21
  brackets again. I'm going to say that for the
• 1:38:23
  first time being backed Dalton again, it was since 4th grade
• 1:38:27
  that I had last been there. Once we moved from Illinois, we
• 1:38:30
  never went back and but I followed the tracks since on
• 1:38:33
  social media and so I definitely want to think Brian Kasabo, but
• 1:38:36
  it's a first class operation there.
• 1:38:38
  Everyone was so accommodating and and welcoming.
• 1:38:42
  So you know, if you're looking for a track to go this
• 1:38:44
  postseason and you want to do some camping in Illinois or
• 1:38:48
  whatever it may be, definitely, you know, definitely consider
• 1:38:51
  Bahama brackets. Information should be coming out
• 1:38:54
  this week. My full program wants Dimmitt
• 1:38:56
  race videos. I'm going to give James a shout
• 1:38:58
  out to James Dimmitt. him and I first crossed paths and I know
• 1:39:02
  SI know Dalton you'll know James.
• 1:39:04
  You know, we first crossed paths at South Bend in 2022 when I was
• 1:39:08
  kind of starting and, you know, we were both doing similar
• 1:39:12
  things and, but he was so accommodating too on, on or on
• 1:39:18
  Sunday. You know, I, I did not set up
• 1:39:21
  until he was there because I want, I'm like, this is your
• 1:39:23
  track. I am a guest.
• 1:39:25
  And I know a lot of times, you know, media doesn't respect
• 1:39:28
  other media. You know, they'll just kind of
• 1:39:30
  stop at each other and do whatever doesn't impact them,
• 1:39:32
  right? They're there for them.
• 1:39:34
  But even with the good acre photography, I said where can I
• 1:39:37
  go? Where can I photo?
• 1:39:38
  I do phonography. As everybody knows, I'm not a
• 1:39:41
  photographer. But I said this is your track,
• 1:39:44
  so I don't want to be in your way.
• 1:39:46
  And so, you know, Chris, Brian, awesome, you know, to see them
• 1:39:50
  again and interact with them and see what their see their team in
• 1:39:53
  action. You know, they didn't mind where
• 1:39:56
  I stood and when they said the infield to make infields yours,
• 1:39:59
  that's not my spot. That's your spot.
• 1:40:01
  You can have that. That's like your sacred ground
• 1:40:03
  down there. I'll just go wherever I can on
• 1:40:06
  the outside. And so between them, the Sterex
• 1:40:10
  were awesome. They were so accommodating to
• 1:40:13
  they have a bus race this this Saturday as well and they have
• 1:40:16
  all their buses painted up. But I just want to give a shout
• 1:40:19
  out publicly. I already did it in a post but
• 1:40:21
  it was like that. 2:00 AM Illinois time when I was driving
• 1:40:25
  or leaving the Love's Truck stop.
• 1:40:28
  But I just want to give a public shout out to on the show for
• 1:40:30
  Grundy because they were just Brian Kasaba helped make it
• 1:40:33
  happen. But again, for James Demmett,
• 1:40:35
  you know, I leaned to him and I said I will not post until he
• 1:40:38
  posts all of his races because again, it's his track and and I
• 1:40:42
  want to respect that. You know, I don't want to take
• 1:40:44
  any views or anything from him. You know, I'm going to let him
• 1:40:47
  post first. Mine's already on YouTube ready
• 1:40:49
  to go. I just waiting for him and he
• 1:40:52
  shared his track footage. So I have some clips of his from
• 1:40:56
  the from his GoPro that he has on the wall.
• 1:40:59
  So again, he was awesome to work with and accommodating.
• 1:41:02
  But like I said, the track they give a shout out which I know he
• 1:41:05
  helped with. He said I looked at him and I
• 1:41:07
  said, did you do that? Because we were just talking how
• 1:41:09
  I like, I like people thinking there's like 5 of me running
• 1:41:13
  around. It's really I'm like, I don't
• 1:41:16
  want to be in the spotlight. And you know.
• 1:41:18
  It's kind of a man to know this Dalton, you know, this like I
• 1:41:20
  just right, you're not going to find me in a lot of people's
• 1:41:22
  pictures. You know, photographers pictures
• 1:41:24
  as they're taking pictures of each other.
• 1:41:26
  You know, I'm you're not going to find me a lot of their photos
• 1:41:28
  because I just go do my thing and move on.
• 1:41:32
  You know, like I, I, I don't need to be.
• 1:41:33
  In the spotlight, I don't. Like being in the spotlight, I'd
• 1:41:35
  rather just do what I do and hope that the drivers are
• 1:41:39
  getting out of it, what they're looking for and at least to the
• 1:41:42
  best of my financial abilities. But again, it's really awesome
• 1:41:45
  to be back at Granny. So I just wanted to give a shout
• 1:41:47
  out. Top class, top, you know, top to
• 1:41:50
  bottom from Steve Bechtel, who's their promoter down there, who I
• 1:41:54
  got to brief only briefly interact with.
• 1:41:56
  But again, you know, you got to have a strong promoter to have a
• 1:41:58
  strong team. You know, the team got to do
• 1:42:01
  what they got to do. Everyone had responsibility,
• 1:42:04
  everyone jumped in. So if you've not been to Grundy
• 1:42:06
  and you're looking for a place to go, I highly encourage you to
• 1:42:10
  check it out. And Bahama brackets is their
• 1:42:12
  next race. So that's they, like I said,
• 1:42:15
  they have an A class and AB class.
• 1:42:18
  And if you're a super fast front wheel drive, you might be in the
• 1:42:22
  A class with street socks and everything if you're putting
• 1:42:23
  down St. stock times, but they do breakouts and that kind of
• 1:42:26
  deal. But it's, it's definitely it's
• 1:42:30
  all about fun and they have Flamingo trophies.
• 1:42:33
  Where else can you go and get Flamingo trophies?
• 1:42:36
  So, so I just want to again, I just want to do a shout out to
• 1:42:40
  them. Have you ever been there, Dalton
• 1:42:42
  Grundy at all? I haven't, no.
• 1:42:44
  It's definitely on the list. This year might be tough.
• 1:42:47
  We'll see how that does it, Springport, but it's definitely
• 1:42:51
  within the next three to five years.
• 1:42:53
  I definitely want to get down there.
• 1:42:55
  Well, and that's where when Brian shared a few weeks ago
• 1:42:57
  when he was on that. It's the only asphalt short
• 1:43:00
  track outside of Chicago land, which I obviously that is a
• 1:43:05
  short track, but it's a NASCAR, although it's been closed.
• 1:43:08
  So I mean it's not like it's had a long time.
• 1:43:10
  In fact, the last time I was at Grundy Route 66 Dragway was only
• 1:43:15
  literally 2 pavement strips and four light poles.
• 1:43:18
  That was it. And it was the rest of his farm
• 1:43:19
  field. So nothing else had even been
• 1:43:21
  built yet. The dirt track and all that
• 1:43:23
  hadn't even they knew it was common, but they nothing was set
• 1:43:27
  up yet. It was literally the dragway was
• 1:43:29
  the only thing, two strips of pavement, no walls or anything,
• 1:43:33
  just pavement and four light poles.
• 1:43:36
  So that's the last time I've been in the area.
• 1:43:38
  So whatever year that was, I want to say it was 97 if I did
• 1:43:42
  my math right. But but I would, you know, if
• 1:43:45
  there's a way to make it down the ground, even if it's as a
• 1:43:48
  fan to check it out and say like, I want to see what this is
• 1:43:51
  all about. But we're going to have Brian
• 1:43:52
  Kasaba on again. Just I might even give him like
• 1:43:55
  a lot of time just to talk about the breakdown.
• 1:43:59
  Like how exactly does it work? You know how can?
• 1:44:02
  How does? Camping Work because they have
• 1:44:04
  like if you go, if you made it like a trip, which you know, not
• 1:44:07
  everyone has PTO, but you have Starved Rock National Park
• 1:44:10
  that's nearby. I love why that as a kid walking
• 1:44:14
  Starved Rock. They also have the Illinois
• 1:44:16
  Michigan Canal that you can walk down a lot of that.
• 1:44:19
  You can watch lock and dams where you can see the the water
• 1:44:22
  lower and raise as they go down the river and everything.
• 1:44:24
  So there's a lot of things to do in the area.
• 1:44:28
  You can't buy alcohol in Morris, IL though.
• 1:44:31
  I just learned that on Friday on or Sunday.
• 1:44:34
  Yes, Benny Miller it's a third mile semi banked.
• 1:44:38
  I, it's not like a Springport banked It's and it's definitely
• 1:44:45
  it's lower than Kalamazoo. I, I don't know by how much, but
• 1:44:48
  I, when we were walking it early and they were kind of talk about
• 1:44:51
  it, I went, well, if this were Kalamazoo because they were kind
• 1:44:54
  of a lot of them knew about Kalamazoo because they follow my
• 1:44:56
  page. And so they're like, we love
• 1:44:57
  watching your Kalamazoo stuff. We love, you know, seeing all
• 1:45:00
  the other area tracks that we can't go to.
• 1:45:03
  But when we're talking about the banking at Grundy, I'm like,
• 1:45:06
  well, if this were Kalamazoo, I'd only be about this far and
• 1:45:09
  halfway winded. So I'm like, I know it's a
• 1:45:11
  little bit more to it, but but it's it's it's steel walls.
• 1:45:16
  So it's not concrete walls or steel walls.
• 1:45:19
  They definitely have some curves to them.
• 1:45:20
  If you like the track with some curves, the the wheels or the
• 1:45:25
  walls have some curves to them. But the only thing that I don't
• 1:45:30
  like is they use race monitor. I hate race monitor.
• 1:45:34
  I just I don't like race monitor.
• 1:45:36
  I I like my race pass. Everything's in one spot.
• 1:45:39
  I click for line UPS, boom, right there.
• 1:45:41
  I click for results, boom, right there.
• 1:45:44
  They can't control that. I mean they can, but they can't.
• 1:45:46
  They use race monitor. But I'm like, I hate race
• 1:45:48
  monitor and I only hate it because of, you know, South
• 1:45:52
  Bend, Plymouth, That's all they used and I got and you get used
• 1:45:55
  to it. But you know, you got to hit the
• 1:45:57
  right button to make sure you're not seeing like a different
• 1:46:00
  setting, right where if you go to my race pass, it's literally
• 1:46:04
  the results, right? Like here's the timing, you
• 1:46:06
  know, with if you hit the wrong button on race monitor, it's
• 1:46:08
  showing you like best lap instead of running order.
• 1:46:11
  And I'm like, I just, I, I hate race monitor.
• 1:46:14
  I, I shouldn't say hate. I strongly dislike race monitor.
• 1:46:17
  It is not friendly unless you're used to it.
• 1:46:21
  I'm just maybe I'm just not used to it.
• 1:46:23
  But even finding the races and where to Click to how to get to
• 1:46:26
  that spot, I'm like, I'm it's on my nerves.
• 1:46:29
  I told James them and I said, you have patients of a St. for
• 1:46:31
  this because I had to go to three different spots to get
• 1:46:34
  what I needed. When I'm used to write my race
• 1:46:36
  pass up one spot. I'm like spoiled, super spoiled.
• 1:46:40
  But but again, you know, definitely get down there and
• 1:46:44
  check it out. I cannot.
• 1:46:45
  And their food concessions were very friendly to the pocketbook
• 1:46:50
  too. So that's why I thought I want
• 1:46:53
  to take a moment at the end of the show before we head on off
• 1:46:55
  just to sing their praise, you know, and for those watching,
• 1:46:59
  hopefully next Monday when we're on, I know it's tonight on a
• 1:47:01
  Wednesday, you know, we are where we are.
• 1:47:03
  But you know, when we have Brian on that we get a lot of people
• 1:47:06
  to learn about more about Grundy.
• 1:47:08
  So it's it's a fun track. I'm just and all the airplanes,
• 1:47:14
  I kept telling them I don't. Remember that many airplanes.
• 1:47:16
  When I was a kid, because the airport's literally behind the
• 1:47:18
  track, they have an airport there all day, planes taking on
• 1:47:22
  and off. And I went, I don't remember the
• 1:47:24
  airport because as a kid you'd think you'd remember all these
• 1:47:26
  airplanes flying in because obviously that's noticeable.
• 1:47:30
  But but I'm like, I don't remember it being this busy when
• 1:47:33
  I was a kid and skydivers every now and then because they have
• 1:47:37
  skydiving down there, not in Grundy, but if you go a little
• 1:47:40
  bit South of Morris, they have a whole skydiving facility.
• 1:47:44
  So if you ever want to skydive, they have a facility down in
• 1:47:47
  Morrison or South of Morris, IL to go to that.
• 1:47:50
  Sometimes you'll get scatters who'll come over the track and
• 1:47:53
  you're like, I hope you don't land.
• 1:47:55
  Not the place to land with the late model on the track.
• 1:47:57
  But I guess it'd make for a really good story, but maybe not
• 1:48:02
  one that we want to tell. But but yeah, if you can get
• 1:48:05
  down there, they have. So they have Sixers, which are
• 1:48:09
  like, I think those were the four cylinders.
• 1:48:11
  And then they had pure stocks, which are the, if I say, if I'm
• 1:48:15
  saying right, there's six cylinders.
• 1:48:18
  And so they had like 23 of the pure stocks, started them all.
• 1:48:23
  All 24, whatever it was, were on the track at one time and it was
• 1:48:27
  a clean race. I went, this is nice.
• 1:48:30
  They only had one. Two big racks.
• 1:48:33
  A light model climbed on top of another light model.
• 1:48:36
  They didn't make a light model. They just finished late models
• 1:48:39
  and then. And then another one.
• 1:48:42
  Hit the wall pretty hard in the Mid AM Sportsman, which was like
• 1:48:45
  our template late models and at Kalamazoo.
• 1:48:48
  But but yeah, other than that, I mean, for as many front wheel
• 1:48:53
  drives as they put on the track, I went, let's see how this goes.
• 1:48:59
  I think 2:00. Cautions A spin out and a spin
• 1:49:02
  out. Nothing big, nothing major, cars
• 1:49:04
  continued. So I'm like 24 of them and they
• 1:49:06
  have that. I can't beat that, not with that
• 1:49:10
  many on it. And and I mean, they're all over
• 1:49:13
  the track, but they put on a great race there.
• 1:49:15
  So again, check out Grant. Sorry, I'm distracted by my cat.
• 1:49:20
  He is chasing a family. So or well, the flies outside,
• 1:49:26
  cat's inside, but he's trying to go for it, so I'm.
• 1:49:30
  Like that's I'm like what? Is going on over here.
• 1:49:33
  I just see shadows, but other than that, I know Scott and
• 1:49:35
  Amanda have officially faded. I'm fading, darling.
• 1:49:38
  You're the only one who has the bright lights.
• 1:49:40
  So I want to thank you again for coming on and being a part of
• 1:49:44
  the show. Any last final thoughts before
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  we head on off? I usually this is where I
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  usually ask Buju to do final thoughts and all that.
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  So not quite to the closing, but anything you want to good for
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  the group, not really just hopefully see everybody at the.
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  End of the year shows and hopefully.
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  Have a good time and you know these the weather holds off and
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  we have a lot of fun. That's Michigan Cup.
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  Do you think the weather's really going to hold off?
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  It's gonna rain at least one night.
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  As long as. There's nothing coming out of
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  the sky. I'm happy.
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  It can be 35. Degrees.
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  We'll make it work. Don't say that because I've had
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  to sit in my car at 11:30 at night.
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  And when it was like 34° outside, that's not fun.
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  Well, it's just it's, I mean this year with.
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  Weather, that's what I'm just predicting is that it's been,
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  you know, most weekends have just kind of been something,
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  right. So I'm like, it wouldn't be
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  Michigan Cup unless there's mud. At some point, it's going to
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  happen. I'm not borrowing that damn
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  record to change. A motor in my car.
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  That Friday night, I'm going to be good.
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  Well, because what last? Year Scott was the 1st.
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  Super shoe in Michigan Cup that you hadn't had to do like major
• 1:50:54
  changes, right? If I remember, that was like the
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  first time in a couple years that you hadn't had to rebuild
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  something. Yeah, I'm, if I'm not mistaken,
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  I think at the end of the race. On Michigan Cup, I had engine
• 1:51:05
  troubles. It finally went out, but yeah,
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  change one in between right, because you've.
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  Done that. Yeah, Oh.
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  Benny said. It's snowed at Cup now.
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  That's not a thing. I will that.
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  We're just going to Benny in October.
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  Anything could happen. I remember being a kid at.
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  Super Shoe and. Waking up with snow on the
• 1:51:25
  ground, yeah. Yeah, well, it wasn't that.
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  Oh no, it was. Just a lot of what was it a few
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  years ago, I don't remember what it.
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  Was but. Wasn't there frost frost a few
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  years ago at Super shoe? I could be wrong.
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  Maybe that was Michigan cup. I mean, Michigan cup is all
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  blended in right now just because it's either raining or
• 1:51:46
  it's cold. Like I'm like, can it just be
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  hot one of these times? Like not brutally hot, but just
• 1:51:52
  hot, you know, like 80s sunny the whole weekend.
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  I don't know what anyone would know what to do if they had that
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  the whole weekend, but it's possible if we speaking into
• 1:52:03
  existence, right? It can be a thing, but well,
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  like I said, thank you Dalton for joining us tonight and
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  coming on as the the Co host and and thank you and Amanda and
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  Scott for joining us. Of course, Ted Mcgahn joining us
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  earlier. Don't forget we're not on
• 1:52:19
  tomorrow. So if you come back on Thursday,
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  we are not on. I know that may mess people up
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  and that may dwindle our audience a little bit on a on a
• 1:52:27
  Thursday, but it's just kind of time to open up the schedule a
• 1:52:32
  little bit. And the, you know, we, the big
• 1:52:34
  two shows in the area right now are Corgan Oil on Sunday has the
• 1:52:38
  harvest and then the rescheduled harvest and then then the night
• 1:52:45
  of instructions at Kalamazoo and New Paris.
• 1:52:47
  So that's kind of the big things in the area right now.
• 1:52:53
  But other than that, we'll be back next Monday already working
• 1:52:57
  on guests. I'm trying to get Brie Brady to
• 1:52:59
  get on. So if anyone wants to encourage
• 1:53:01
  her, I'm going to, I'm getting ready to message her back in and
• 1:53:04
  beg and plead and be like, please come on.
• 1:53:07
  Because I'm going to start getting, you know, our champions
• 1:53:10
  scheduled and start rolling through them.
• 1:53:11
  So, so hopefully Brie Brady and we'll see who else I can get for
• 1:53:16
  next Monday. But other than that, Dalton, I'm
• 1:53:19
  going to give you the whole ending.
• 1:53:20
  I don't want whole ending. You can get your part.
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  You did it so well though, that every.
• 1:53:26
  Time I do it I'm. Like, hold on, I got to get in
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  Dolton mode and I'm like, I just got to I take a deep breath
• 1:53:32
  because the inflection, everything that you did, I'm
• 1:53:35
  like it was spot on, Like it was too good.
• 1:53:39
  And so in a good way. That's where I don't know if you
• 1:53:42
  heard on the show a few weeks ago, I told Bujo.
• 1:53:43
  I said it's kind of like in a creepy way, like not in a bad,
• 1:53:46
  like that's creepy, but just in the way a we've completely lost.
• 1:53:50
  I mean, it's got but but that it was just the way you did it.
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  I'm like if there were a voice over or there's something that I
• 1:53:58
  can pull from that that's the one I'm going to do is pull from
• 1:54:02
  because you did it so perfect. So I'll do it this way.
• 1:54:06
  Do you want my part or do you want Buju's part?
• 1:54:09
  I'll take Boujou since I'm standing in for tonight.
• 1:54:12
  Yep, I know. He was worried.
• 1:54:13
  He's like, I hope I don't get replaced and.
• 1:54:15
  I almost I almost wanted to bust him in a little bit and be like,
• 1:54:18
  I don't know, everybody's replaceable, but but I know he's
• 1:54:22
  getting ready for, you know, being a race car driver and
• 1:54:24
  everything this Saturday. So that gave him some time and
• 1:54:28
  then he had truck issues too. So I'm like, you know, he
• 1:54:32
  deserves a a night to himself too.
• 1:54:34
  So to work on all that and get ready.
• 1:54:35
  So I'm again. Do you have baby names picked
• 1:54:38
  out by the way, before we let you go any both of you?
• 1:54:40
  Do you guys got any names lined up or that you're thinking we we
• 1:54:45
  have one picked out. We don't know if it's going to
• 1:54:46
  be a middle. Or a first, but we're working on
• 1:54:49
  the rest of it. OK Dunn, do you got a name all
• 1:54:52
  ready to go? Well, I think.
• 1:54:54
  So I think I think we've got one ready to rock but can't.
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  Let it out, I don't want anybody to steal it just in case.
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  Oh yeah, no, is it, is it 7 cuz? That would be like Seinfeld,
• 1:55:03
  right? Like when you name someone 7
• 1:55:05
  when George or when, yeah, you know, George Costanza says I
• 1:55:09
  want to name a kid 7 and then was it his girlfriend?
• 1:55:13
  Pass it on to like, like her friends.
• 1:55:15
  And then they ended up naming her kid or their kids. 7 He's
• 1:55:18
  like, no, that's mine. And it's like, that's one of my
• 1:55:21
  favorite Seinfeld episodes other than the soup Nazi 1.
• 1:55:24
  You know, obviously soup Nazi is just soup Nazi.
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  But but with the with baby names, every now and then I'll
• 1:55:30
  pull someone out. Oh, are you going to name it?
• 1:55:32
  7 And there's so many people who don't know the reference.
• 1:55:34
  I'm like, Seinfeld was popular. It's not that long ago, but but
• 1:55:39
  I don't know, it's people seem to forget that reference, but
• 1:55:43
  I'm like, oh, someone name it seven, name it kids 7.
• 1:55:46
  But but yeah, you don't have to say it on the air or anything,
• 1:55:49
  but definitely good luck having a new baby coming in.
• 1:55:52
  Obviously I know I'll see Scott and Amanda this this Saturday.
• 1:55:54
  They got a few more weeks before they start stressing about
• 1:55:57
  theirs. So but it's coming.
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  I mean what 3 weeks, 4 weeks maybe.
• 1:56:03
  I mean a month. Yeah, about a month.
• 1:56:05
  So I mean, it's coming fast. So again, thank you everyone for
• 1:56:11
  joining us tonight. Thank you for joining us on a
• 1:56:13
  special Wednesday edition of the Monday Night Rewind.
• 1:56:16
  And now this is the part where I say, OK, got to go into Dolton
• 1:56:20
  mode. All right, darling, it's almost
• 1:56:24
  time to. Turn left and go fast because.
• 1:56:27
  We'll see you at the races. See everyone?