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BONUS: Community Hour Replay w/ Joel & Sina (May 28th, 2023) · Beyond Labels Premium

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yesterday's episode was scary about what they're doing to vaccinate animals.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_02: Definitely scary.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I tell you, when I was spending like those around roughly 40 hours researching it, I um was in a really bad space.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_02: Had to, you know, one of those times when you're going down the rabbit hole and you have to pull yourself out of it.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um even my kids notice they're like, you seem different.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_02: So my husband actually at one point had to tell me to stop, like to get off the computer and stop researching.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um and then I like, you know, walked the dogs and prayed about it, and basically um had to had to turn turn the corner so that I started thinking positive again.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, Jessica says, I can tell how emotional you were at sad and scary stuff.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so glad we have you to research all this.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, thanks! My family probably disagrees, but but yes, yes, I'm happy to be able to do it.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um it's it's one of those topics that you can basically just go down this rabbit hole and get stuck in there for hours.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_02: So I did that for my first book.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_02: That's why it took almost five years to write that book.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I basically wrote a book for each chapter and had to narrow it down because no one's gonna read all that.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, I'm happy I'm happy to do the research and now I'm happy to have let go of it and uh to be on the positive side again.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um thank you.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_02: We appreciate your legwork as a researcher.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we appreciate all of you because if we didn't have you guys, I'm not sure.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm not actually sure I would be doing all this anymore.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: It's a very lonely path, and the hate mail can be um really upsetting.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_02: So we're very, we're very grateful for all of you.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um Michelle, um, yes, so scary.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_02: I called my beef guy and he sent me a list of shots he gives his cows.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_02: I had no idea.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, now I'm nervous.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_02: I think you know, for me, that's the that was the real story out of this one for for me and my husband, was that you know we often say, okay, we'll just reach for organic, and that's tends to be a good solution for overall detoxifying, like for overall lowering your toxic load, which is still true, but we tend to kind of gloss over the whole issue of vaccines in organic.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: And so I think this is actually bringing that out to the forefront for many of us, and for me, this was the final straw where I was I thought I just I just can't be in the grocery store anymore.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: I can I just there's so many, as you know, loopholes for the organic label, and this was just it for me.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, especially once I learned that it's not just the newer vaccines that they want to give livestock, that they're trying to create these mRNA versions of it.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_02: But now that they're trying to go through and take some of the traditional vaccines that were given to livestock and convert those into mRNA versions, that's when I thought, you know, and the and the it I just can't be in the grocery store, especially since organics doesn't seem to be regulating this.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so yes.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yes, hate mail, hate mail, yes, I do receive hate mail.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um and it, you know, that's why I can another reason why community is so important.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm so grateful for Joel.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_02: Because I received a lot of hate mail with my first book.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_02: And um when I got to know Joel from doing a I was I was on a lecture circuit and I got to know Joel.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I would receive the hate mail and I'd send it to him, and he would help lift me up, like lift my spirits up, so I didn't I didn't quit.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um okay.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_02: Joel wrote up a great point with ordering chicks as well.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_02: Make sure your hatchery does not vaccinate.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_02: Tractor supply chicks all come vaccinated.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, that's from Mike.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_02: Excellent point, Mike.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um, preferably, you know, you can order from somebody that you know, right?
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_02: A local farmer who you trust.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we have a couple here that I've recently learned about and they don't vaccinate whatsoever.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um yes, my from David, my impression is that regenerative farmers still believe in vaccines in general or they think they need some of them.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, this is one of the things that um is, I hope, now going to come to the forefront is that we've kind of taken this issue for granted.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um, there's a lot of um farmers that I've been in contact with over the last couple weeks since I've been researching this.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of them are stating that they're regenerative or beyond organic or at least organic, and they are using vaccines.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_02: So Joel has mentioned before, um, I think in our book, but definitely on the podcast, that most of the farmers actually do still use vaccines.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it's because they do believe that they need it for like to to basically keep those old diseases at bay.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_02: But as you know, Joel doesn't use vaccines.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of um farmers that we can tap into that don't use vaccines, so at least there is a solution, you know.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_02: And I was gonna say this too.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_02: I remember talking to Joel when he um when he decided to start selling online, he had a really hard time coming to that conclusion, you know, deciding to actually do that because he's all been about local, support your local farmer.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_02: And the thought was, well, um, sh do I change that whole belief system that I have?
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_02: But he had a difficult time getting local people to buy his food, uh local restaurants to buy his food.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_02: So it was a matter of he needed to basically sell online.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it was just really hard for him to do that, like a fundamentally difficult decision for him to make.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_02: And now I thank God, like I'm so grateful that God directed him because you know, to make that decision, because now we can in the United States we can all order Joel's vaccine-free meat, right?
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_02: So there's always there's always um a reason for everything.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I'm just glad that that that God did guide Joel to do that.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yay, Joel's on.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: All right, here we are.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, bye.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_02: Hey Joel.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, hey.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so I've been filtering through some of the comments um and questions.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_02: There's quite a few coming in.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: So we let's just go ahead and and start, if that's okay with you, since we're already behind.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so David's saying, I love my polyface, neighborhood drop-off, freezer is full, stomach is happy, yes.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_02: Go, Joel.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um Cremona, I believe that's how you pronounce that.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, I'm not good at pronouncing things.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_02: Cremona, that's beautiful.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_02: She says, Yahoo, welcome, Joel, from Canada.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_02: That's amazing.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_02: Chris from Virginia.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: Melissa says hello, Joel.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_02: Pruitt says, there he is.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, okay, I'm gonna jump right in.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um it's kind of hard to read because they the comments move up.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Sheila says, Does mRNA get into formula milk?
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_02: I have a six-month-old baby.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, there are there has been at least one study that I know of off the top of my head that's conducted about does it get does it cross into the milk supply?
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: And that study um concluded that yes, it does.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: So when I um if you have a baby that you're trying to feed and there's form okay, there's formula.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: So as you know, organic doesn't exempt the formula from um coming from melt from cows that were given vaccines, okay?
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because because because Cena we already, yeah, the um organic organic certification, gov government was organic certification government has never taken a position on vaccines.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, historically, never taken a position on vaccines, and so there's no reason to think that they're gonna take a position on mRNA at this point, even though that's a very different vaccine, as we know, that it it operates very differently.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um the the precedent so far has been to basically be moot, just stay moot on vaccines.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_02: So one possible solution, um, if you're questioning the baby formula, is you can use um Weston Price has a baby formula that you can make using raw milk.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I use that one too for for my child because I wasn't able to produce enough milk.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so I actually did give a raw milk formula, and so you can find raw milk from like a local farmer, for instance, hopefully, that doesn't vaccinate, and that's exactly what I did.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, here's one for Joel.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_02: This is from Sharon.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: Love y'all's podcast.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_02: My question for Joel can you please comment on this carbon pipeline?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_02: I uh she read about supposedly planned to go underground from one state to another.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_02: So it's a carbon pipe pipeline.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: I I have no I don't know what it is.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: You mean a they're gonna they're gonna pump carbon and through a pipe?
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: I can't I can't imagine that you can pump I mean carbon is like you know like uh compost.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how you're gonna pump carbon through a pipe or compost through a pipe.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm uh yeah, I'm either ignorant or or I've just not heard of it.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_02: Sharon says she's gonna find the article and provide it to us.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_02: It could this be with the gas, Joel, could it be CO2 gas like trying to capture the carbon?
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Well, oh yeah, now that that that has certainly been uh bandied about for a long time as a kind of Rube Goldberg carbon capture where you pump you pump CO2.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can pump gas.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's hard to pump, it's hard to pump uh compost, but you can pump gas.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: And uh and so yeah, there are there are things on that.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: But uh my comment on that is uh all we need to do is is is raise our farmland uh carbon, you know, um uh just start start building organic matter in our in our uh in our farm fields, and all of these crazy uh carbon capture things are are not unnecessary.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_02: Well have you heard anything though about any of them going in actively and crossing state lines?
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you you mean actually being actually being installed.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: No, I haven't.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: I it hasn't hasn't come across my hasn't come across my radar yet.
• 11:31
  unknown: Okay.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_02: Michelle wants to know, are you gonna record any more audiobooks, Joel?
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_02: Please, please do, she says.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yes, the the the plan we're trying to get out at least one and um and in a you know in a rapid thing, if we can get two a year to catch up, it'd be good.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: I, you know, for years I was courted by outfits that wanted to do it, and their terms were just uh, you know, if I'm gonna if I'm gonna spend a week reading a book, um I I want to get more than you know, I want to get more than a hundred bucks for that thing.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and so finally, you know, uh several years ago, this outfit uh contacted me, Echo, whatever, Echo Point, something like that.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: And uh their terms are wonderful, they're great to work with, great team.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_01: And um I don't know how many projects they have going, but you know, we're trying to we're trying to crank out at least one a year and maybe two.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it's still in the plan, but I I I I think most people don't realize that it takes, you know, it takes a week of my life to read one of these things, and because I have to go to a studio.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: You can't read all day because your voice gives out.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: So you can only read about you know three to four hours is about all I can read before I start getting you know scratchy, and then when I get scratchy, I get grumpy, and when I get grumpy, I don't read very well.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: So uh uh so so anyway, try and do the best we can.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for your vote of confidence.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: The audiobooks have been uh yeah, I've I've run into a lot of people that that enjoy those, especially because I read them.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and so yeah, that's kind of that's kind of fun.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_02: Great.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um somehow now I can't oh wait, here now I can scroll it.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um okay, Aaron says RPTFE, um, you know, the forever chemicals, the PFAS, are they oh it just it just moved.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_02: Hold on.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_02: Are they found in cow milk, like in human breast milk?
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: So, yes, there is evidence to show, there is data to show that these um chemicals are being found in um some of the cows and the the milk from the cow.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and the thought is that just like in humans, they do bioaccumulate.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: So the answer to that is unfortunately yes.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, on on that, Cena, um the you know these particles, these particles are really, really small.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: And um and I I just I'm I'm hot off last weekend I was in Missouri for the Columbia, the Columbia-Missouri Wellness Conference.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh sixth annual.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: And uh so I'm hot off of listening to a bunch of uh you know heretic medical doctors that are outside the system.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_01: It was wonderful.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: It was like a day of you know uh drinking out of a the heretic's fire uh uh the heretics fire hose without the fire.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: And uh without being burned at the stake.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: And um one of the one of the one of the doctors was saying that we have a tremendous capacity in our bodies to uh to detoxify.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so so we we can we can cry, we can sneeze, so you've got you've got your you've got your nose.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: And we've talked about this, Cena, but it was it was he was just so clear about it.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you can you've got tear ducts.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: So so you can you can um have whatever uh fluids come out of your face, you can throw up, you can throw up, you can you can poop, you can pee, uh and we get right out of nitty-gritty here.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_01: And and you and you can sweat.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: And you can sweat.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: And so the the the point is the point is um and you can maybe uh round this out a little bit for me, but but um are there toxins on the planet?
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Are there more toxins than we've ever had?
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: Are we in a toxin bath?
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: I mean from you know from cloud seeding to these you know little nanoparticles and whatever, but but we have a fantastic capacity uh to be able to purge them too.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and and so um you know and one and one of the good ones, one of the really good ones is sweating.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: Hence the old sweat lodges, you know, I mean almost all ancient civilizations had some way to induce a real, you know, a real sweat.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: Now, fortunately I'm a farmer and I, you know, I routinely sweat to my knees, you know, in the summer, and so I I get to sweat a lot and I sweat real easily, um, which you know I've had people say you you you can tell how to how toxic you are by how easy it is to sweat.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: The easier it is to sweat, the less toxic you are.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: If you're having trouble sweating, it means that you're you're you're you're clogged up somehow.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, so the body is amazing, just like Joel said.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: God designed it that way that we have multiple avenues for detoxifying our body, uh, kind of like these backup systems, even if you will.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um and so, yes, the the fact that not all of us are chronically sick is a testimony to God's design, right?
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: Because of all the toxins that are uh around us.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um the forever chemicals, they are a little bit more difficult to get rid of, which is why they have that nickname Forever Chemicals, right?
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um my husband worked on um, you know, talk about like seeing the light, but in grad school, part of his dissertation was on trying to create um Teflon, the surface of Teflon, trying to basically improve upon the Teflon surface.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: And so he kind of dummy it down for me, and he was explaining that um when you have those forever chemicals that are used, they're designed to make things not stick to them, right?
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: And one of the ways they do that is by having a um they don't have like this charge on them that allows them, for instance, to be pulled from the body very easily.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like we can use chelators, for instance, to pull things out of the body, like EDTA, but also natural chelators like cilantro, um, and they tend to grab onto them and pull them out.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: These forever chemicals are hard for them to pull out because of the lack of the charge there on the surface.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: And that's how they were designed, right?
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: For nothing to actually stick to them.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that's why we see a little bit more difficulty in detoxing from what we call these forever chemicals, these um, but not that it's not impossible, just as Joel said, it is possible.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they are harder to pull out of the body than let's say a heavy metal, a lot of times.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and part of that's because the body's gonna sequester it.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: It's so brilliant in God's design, it's gonna sequester it away from the vital organs, you know, brain, the heart, and so it will kind of hide it, and you have to kind of you have to try to pull it out of the of the tissues.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_02: But it can definitely be done.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I'll add, for me, in my research and personal experience, the best way to detoxify the body is through an emotional detox, right?
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_02: So clearly you want to eat you know, clean food, you don't want to be consuming glyphosate in your food or your water, you know, things like that, reduce if if possible, eliminate all the EMF exposure around you.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but you definitely want to do emotional detox.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_02: That um that will release this any stagnant energy that's in the different energy centers in the body.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: And once you can release the stagnant energy, the body's physical machinery is able to detox better, right?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: So you'll be better at detoxing the physical body once you detox the um emotional body.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, um, question for Joel Do you have guardian livestock dogs?
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_02: How do you prevent them from eating your chickens?
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I love that.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_02: I love that because we're gonna get chickens as soon as we move, and we have five dogs.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: So Wow, yeah, so yeah, we do have guardian livestock dogs, and um and we have had them with chickens, and we have also had them um play with chickens too rough.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it doesn't take a it doesn't take a big dog playing with a chicken to uh accidentally um inflict some damage on a chicken.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, they don't mean it, but it you know it just happens.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: And so there's a couple things that you can do.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm a huge fan of the um the the top-of-the-line Cabela's uh shock collar.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: Those are radio controlled um you know remote controlled collars.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: They don't actually emit a spark, they they buzz, they have beads in them that buzz, so it gives the sensation of a of a kind of a buzzing you know electrical thing, but it's not actually an electrical pulse.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't care about electrical pulse anyway, but but I'm just giving it for those of you who would love your dogs and you know your uh animal uh welfare freaks.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm an animal welfare freak.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: I'm putting in the caveat for that for for Cena there.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: But uh but anyway, uh the beauty, the beauty of these collars, and and get a good one, don't get a cheap one, get a good one.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: But the beauty of them is that you can you can uh create a behavior response remotely.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: So you can hide behind a tree, you know, stick stay on the front porch and watch.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: And and and the the the um the the the learning cycle, the response of the animal uh is so much faster when they don't equate you with uh the uh with the the effect.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um they think it's God, you know, and and so they don't they don't think it's you.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean how many times have you had an animal that watches you when you leave, they go do something, they know you're not watching.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: They know you're not there.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: They're smart.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: They're really smart.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: And so we've found these collars to be extremely effective because we can we can kind of hide behind something and administer our discipline remotely, and that that really helps.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: Dogs like room to run.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: They don't like to now scenas, they just always sleep on a pillow.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: They they just never seem to go anywhere.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: They're always in the background on our podcast.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: You see them all stretched out there like uh uh do you want to rob me?
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I'd be glad.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: Come on in.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the here's the safe and here's the wallet, and you know, come on and rob rob the house here.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: But uh most most my dogs have a balanced life.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: That is their relaxation time.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: They go play and hunt and then they relax.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: So they're sleeping on the pillow because they've just killed three rabbits outside.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: Is that the deal?
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh sleep it off.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: So uh so um the these uh these dogs need some room to run.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: And so our biggest uh, what should I say, our biggest um frustrations with guardian dogs in the past has been when we have confined them in the netting with the chickens, and they do fine for a day or two, but then they go stir crazy because they they want more they want more room to go.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: So one of the things that we've we've done is to move them around from place to place, and um and that that's really beneficial.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: The best guardian animal we've found for chickens is a goose, is a real aggressive goose.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: And uh now the problem with geese is that only about one in five or six is really has the temperament to be aggressive.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: And so sometimes you've got to get several and find out.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: Well, how do you find out if they're aggressive?
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, if they survive, you know, and if they if they if nothing gets them, then you know you've got a good aggressive one.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: And the neat thing about a goose, we've got goose right out there now in our in our um millennium feather net, and uh the beauty of a goose is that uh they're long-lived.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they'll they'll live uh twice as long as a dog.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: A goose will live 40 years.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: So if you get a good one, um, you know, and they're and they're you know they're they do their job well, um you know you don't have to replace them real often.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: So those are just some ideas on on uh on the the beauty of a duck, of course, uh of a goose, I'm sorry, with the chickens, is they're all birds, you know, so they're very, very compatible.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, geese don't eat chickens like like dogs can.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_02: I love that idea of a goose.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_02: And um Aaron has suggested an e-collar, and Rachel has suggested she uses a mini educator brand e-collar.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's wonderful, great customer service.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um okay, Andrew is saying, this is for you, Joel.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: Andrew says in a podcast back a little ways, you talked about the train derailment in East Palestine.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_02: During that talk, you discussed how a farm in Austria that was in the fall out of Chernobyl was able to replant immediately because of the high carbon/slash organic matter in the soil.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a farmer and would love to dive deeper into the importance of organic matter and the filtering binding properties it has in keeping toxins from being uptaken into plants.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_02: My question is, Joel, do you have a reference or a link to the farm or the study done on the farm that will provide more details for someone who may want to research more on this topic?
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody needs to understand, unlike so Cena is our resident um scientific researcher, I'm our resident uh uh storyteller and poet.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_01: And and poets poets don't keep um don't keep files of research projects.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: I will tell you that it was the it was uh recorded in Acres USA magazine, probably, I'm gonna say, well, whatever, however far away Chernobyl was, uh go forward about a year, it was probably in the magazine at that point.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: And the farm was the Lufke farm.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's spelled, I think it's spelled L-U-E-B-K-E.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: But they say it Lufki.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_01: I mean it's Austrian.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: L-U-E-B-K-E.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure that's the name of the farm.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and it was featured in Acres USA magazine.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: I have no idea what you know issue, what date, what but um uh I I have a I have a really good memory, but I'm not the world's best um you know research um record keeper, uh unlike unlike Cena.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm uh I I'm I'm I'm a little bumblebee that just pollinates from flower to flower, and I don't I don't have to keep track of what flowers I've been to.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: So uh so I I I I can just sprinkle around and it's okay.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: But but um listen, uh from from a from a a specific standpoint, I mean, besides them, I can I can tell you that the in that that the whole you know the the carbon uh the the carbon slash organic matter um uh detoxification uh discussion is is um is available for everybody.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean I mean the uh biochar, um chelation therapy is basically carbon, you know, it's it's the closest thing we can get to pumping compost into our veins, you know, is is um and I know a doctor would have a fit with that kind of idea, but but i you know um think about the number of carbon filters, water filters, um the the the uh organic matter.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: You can you can put you can put amazing stuff in a compost pile and and it comes out clean, you know.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh the the fungi, the protozoa, the nematodes in a compost pile can eat all sorts of things.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, you know, Paul Stamitz, the the fungus guru, uh has found strains of mycelium and fungi that that eat that eat herbicide, that eat roundup, that eat this stuff.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: And so uh so don't underestimate the power of of organic matter and and all of the beings that it that it enjoys to um you know to make things better.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and Nolan's chimed in on the carbon dioxide pipeline.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um it says Summit Carbon Solutions Carbon Dioxide Pipeline.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_02: The pipeline will transport captured carbon dioxide from the Green Plains ethanol plant located near the city of Fergus Falls in Otter Tail County to the North Dakota and Minnesota border, south of Breckenridge in Wilkin County.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_02: The big concern is the potential leaks.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I think I saw an article talking about how the con how the residents are pushing back on that.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: So so yeah, so they're trying to get it through.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yes, it's coming.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: So it's so you know what what uh interesting there, Cena, when you started that was it's coming from an ethanol plant, right?
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: Isn't that what it said?
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: Ethanol plant.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no one's saying yes.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: Is that so so so you gotta ethanol plant.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: Again, you know, I I can't help Cena but but to to point out um you and I both uh very much agree that generally when the federal government um intervenes in the marketplace, the the result is not is not good.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: And so think about um, hey, you know, love Willie Nelson, okay?
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: Great guy, Willie Nelson, all right.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but but this idea where we're gonna we're gonna um spend billions of dollars making ethanol plants in the Midwest to to to have um you know to have to give farmers another market for corn.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know, I'm all I'm all for ethanol, alcohol, uh but it's one and I've met farmers that have little farm scale, you know, farm scale ethanol things like in their, you know, as part of their farm hub, all right.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's one thing.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: But it's but it but it's like all it you know it it's small enough to be nested within the ecological carrying capacity of the uh of the place.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: Goodness, farmers farmers were, you know, the Model T before prohibition, the Model T had an alcohol uh uh switch on the dashboard.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: You could either burn it on gasoline or or um or alcohol.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_01: And farmers, you know, uh people were were uh moonshiners, you know, that moonshiners, half of it was fuel.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't it wasn't to drink.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh they had they that that you could burn, you know, burn uh apple brandy in your you know in your automobile.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: So um so historic historically, so I'm not opposed to you know to alcohol i in that regard, but it's small scale, community scale, uh democratized.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: But when you when you build a a$500 million plant in uh in Kansas to make ethanol, not only do you override the local uh ecology to be able to handle the waste stream, but but you also um uh because you've built the plant, you're now emotionally and and uh strategically from a from a political standpoint, you're now enslaved to making to dominating however much land it's ta it takes to feed into that plant.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, if it's a radius of of 50 miles, suddenly uh uh that 50 mile radius from that plant, all the decision making uh is to to keep that plant running because we got we've got this plant, we've got to keep it going.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: And and that's the problem with this kind of uh uh manipulative, manipulative marketplace intervention from the federal government.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: It just creates all these, and so now this great, great big plant that dominates all the decisions on the ecology of the region now has too much carbon dioxide, and they're gonna pump it to a neighboring state, make a bunch of people mad, create all sorts of you know uh uh possible issues.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it when you peel back the onion, it just you know, um get the government out, and you know, we'll be just fine.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and Chris says ethanol is a scam.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: We have ethanol plants all over the Midwest that are government subsidized.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_02: Ugh.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_02: Ugh.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: All right, and Jessica says, I know you guys travel to various events.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_02: What do you eat while you're on the road?
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Clint says, Oh, I second Jessica's question, and Jessica followed up by saying, It's tough eating healthily while traveling.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_02: I want to know how the experts do it.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_02: So go ahead, Joel, the expert.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: You start us.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_02: What do you eat when you're on the road?
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, um, unlike Cena, again, um uh this is this is a very um we're being very transparent here, okay?
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: And this this is the first one we've done, and and uh obviously it took me a while to you know get to it.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_01: But uh you know, you guys uh watch or you know uh uh joining us on this.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for joining us, but you're really seeing Cena and I with our what you know kind of with our hair down here, uh just enjoying um being ourselves.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_01: And so um I'm blessed, unlike Cena, to not having had her her uh um health journey, you know, that that you're all familiar with, I'm sure.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: And you listen, if I was preparing for my funeral, I would probably be a pit bull like like Cena too.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: But I've enjoyed extremely robust health.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, we live well, we we we you know, I just have a well, I just live in paradise.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've got all these young people around me that you know that love me and and I love them, and you know, I get stuff done and and it's just a great place to live.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_01: And so I can I can afford to fudge a little bit is what I'm getting to.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: And Cena's gonna, you know, jump on me for saying 8020, but because every time I do that, she jumps on me, so I know it's gonna happen.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, it's published in our book.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_02: So out there and stuff, you can't take it back.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: But um uh, you know, I'd kind of do the 80-20, 80 intentional, be really uh a pit bull about it, and 20% lets you enjoy your niece's, you know, uh birthday cake when you have a a family party, so you're not a uh whatever.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and and but but but again, I totally respect an honor.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'll be glad to see what Cena says.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_01: So when I travel, when I travel, um generally I don't eat much at all.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_01: I um I I've been known to go, you know, a couple days uh without eating.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's a good time to fast.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: And um fortunately we have good meat sticks here I can take.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_01: They don't make crumbles.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's easy to travel with some uh some of our pork and and beef uh snack sticks.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: They're great to travel, and I can take those with me.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, you know, I just got back from a four-day out to Austin, Texas, and then to to Missouri four days.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_01: I ate three, I ate three meals while I was out.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so I'm I'm not a saint, but but I do I don't eat much in uh you know, I try not to eat anything in airports except you know, once in a while my 20% will kick in and I'll get me some Baskin Robbins ice cream.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's my that's my hypocrisy.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I and I'm happy to admit it.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: And if I die eating ice cream, well, what a way to go.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and Jessica says, don't tell me you wheel into Hardy's LOL.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_02: Do you ever eat like a fast food?
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_01: When when when I fill out the little, you know, everybody always when when they're hosting you and they say, uh, what are your food allergies?
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I always just put McDonald's uh just for a joke, you know, that's my allergy.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_01: But uh no, no, nobody, nobody takes me to that kind of stuff.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_01: They they know me well enough.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um I I'm just not a yeah, I don't had had and and and there are there are a lot of um you know good options now.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's a lot more than there were 20 years ago.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yes, that's for sure.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_02: So, yes, as Joel said, I'm the pit bull when it when it comes to what I put in my mouth.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um so I don't ever go off my uh if you want to call it a diet.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_02: Diet is really uh as a nutritionist, we learn that diet is just the way that you eat, right?
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's not a fad the way that mainstream talks about it.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_02: So my diet is a hundred percent.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like I don't, I just don't go off.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um so that means it does make travel difficult, right?
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_02: Because I eat um only organic or regeneratively grown foods, like truly regeneratively grown foods, not the current label.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I don't eat any grains whatsoever.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_02: I rarely eat any dairy, and if I do, it's raw, um A2A2 from a farm, no man-made chemicals whatsoever.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_02: So it is limiting when you go out, but um I follow a similar routine as Joel.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: Whenever I travel for no matter what I'm doing, visiting friends, family, going on talks.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I also fast quite a bit.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so I probably end up eating about a meal a day as well.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I bring as much as I can with me, and that's what I eat.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: So I bring beef jerky sticks as well.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I'll bring nuts and seeds.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_02: I don't eat those very often, um, but I do bring them when I'm traveling, you know, anything that's high calorie, so a lot of avocados, those you don't have to be careful with them, but they can stay good for a while.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I I make my food.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: So if it's somewhere where I I'm driving, then I bring a toaster oven with me because I won't use a microwave to heat my food.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I'll prepare all my food in advance and I'll bring it in an ice chest and I'll heat it up in my toaster oven.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um if I if it's someplace where I'm like not bringing a toaster over from for whatever reason, I pack a bunch of salads um in my f in the ice chest and um you know, veggies and things like that.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, I've been known though for breakfast to just put some real salt on the avocado and eat the avocado.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm um I joke around with my husband that you know, you know, the joke is that like wives and females are high maintenance.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: I'm really not high maintenance in a lot of ways.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like I wear like the same few shirts all the time and I don't do my nails.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_02: I I brush my hair before I come on the podcast, so that's you know, that's a treat for my kids to see me that way.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_02: But um, like usually I'm rolling around with the kids or playing with the dogs in the dirt, right?
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but when it comes to my food, it's interesting.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_02: I guess you're gonna say I'm high maintenance in the terms of what I'm willing to put in my body, right?
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_02: But in terms of what I'm actually eating on my plate, I'm very low maintenance.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, I'll eat an avocado with salt for breakfast and I'm good to go.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_02: So, so yes, um similar to Joel, but I'm 100% instead of the 80 because of my past experience.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_02: Believe me, if I hadn't almost died, I'd probably still be eating the standard American diet, right?
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_02: Because it's convenient.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I and and the other thing, Cena, uh, I think I think I probably I probably fly a lot more than you.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm out, I'm, you know, I'm at uh on American now, I'm I'm executive platinum or something.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta fly a lot to get to that point.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_01: So I get all these first class, first class upgrades.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I almost all the time I'm a first class upgrade.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: And it's really hard to look at that little tray of snacks they bring by and and not not eat.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, if they've got some nuts, I'll eat those.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um but but you know, um uh that that that's really tough.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_01: And and and two, you know, there's a kind of emotional thing for me.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like if I say if I say I don't want anything, it's almost like uh it's almost like you're being whatever uh ungrateful.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: And so there's a little bit of that emotional uh push in there too.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_01: So uh so I you know I nibble and and do uh enough to kind of not be a a boar.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_02: But um Are you saying I'm a boar?
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, I'm not saying you're a boar.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying, you know, I I don't I don't go to the I don't go to the the extent that you do.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um certainly for flying.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_01: And um but most of the most of the places I'm I'm I'm sure uh most of the places that I go to, uh, you know, there's there are really really good options there.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the wherever I'm staying or the you know, now you know if I stay in a Hilton hotel where you have a continental breakfast, I do not eat the I don't know how people survive on Cheerios and bagels and I mean it just it almost makes me uh go nuts.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, I I might I might grab a banana, something like that, you know, for breakfast, and that and that's that's that's plenty.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that that's enough.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so bananas.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm like seeing it in the processed stuff.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and that's where your low maintenance comes in.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to have really uh you know gourmet prepared processed stuff.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh a banana, a banana, an orange, um, you know, that's that's that's great.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_02: And um Rachel has a great idea.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_02: She invested in a nice Yeti cooler for when they travel so we can pack food.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's a lot of work, but I know I will feel good when I eat when I'm away.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_02: I'm the same way, Rachel.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, I have a lot of friends that will travel and they're like, oh, I'm on vacation, I'm just gonna eat whatever, and that's great.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's what they want to do, and they've made that decision and they enjoy it, you know, and then they always tell me then they have to pay for it when they come back, and they're happy to do that.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_02: I like to feel good all the time.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_02: So like, you know, I figure I'm I was so sick, I I'm not going back there.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_02: So um, my other thing is I want to add one more thing and then we can move on to the next question.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_02: One reason why, too, I I don't ever go off of you know my principled eating is because um what when I eat that way, my you know, my body's healthier, the energy moves better through my body, and so I'm actually connected more with God when I do that.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like I can feel a definite difference.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like if I'm making a cake and I'm eating it, you know, um the sugar in my body for just as an example, because that's something I have done like even more recently.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I feel more disconnected from God.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_02: And so, like, I can't communicate as well, can't tap into my intuition as well.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so so that's another reason why I don't like to do that.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_02: I rely on God every day for guidance, you know, in most uh all my decisions, and I want to keep that communication open.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_02: So I've just I personally have noticed that difference when I veer off my principled eating.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, David says pork rinds used to be his uh flight food of choice when the masking was going on.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_02: Marna says, What?
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_02: No champagne in first class?
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_02: You're devoted.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_02: I cave on that one.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um and oh yes, Shannon says.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: She's happy we can bring the food onto flights.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um sorry, it's scrolling up a lot.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um okay, Joel, looking it moved again.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: Hold on one second.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_02: I wish I could freeze this screen.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um looking forward to seeing and hearing you at the Homestead Festival in Tennessee in a month or two.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_02: Do you have I gotta scroll back up?
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_02: Do you have a list of authors or books you recommend for someone starting their farming venture?
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_02: I've listened in I've listened to most of your audiobooks, listening to holistic management currently, but looking for my next book to listen to while putting in perimeter fencing.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so Joel, um authors or books you recommend for someone starting their farming venture?
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh well, um, besides mine, certainly uh certainly uh just Justin Rhodes's Justin Rhodes' book, Rooted, is an excellent book.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh as long as uh as well as Sean and Beth Dowerty.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um what's the title of their book?
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm blank just all of a sudden.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and it's it's here somewhere, but I can't put my hands on it.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um Sean and Beth Dougherty.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh they're extremely good uh as well in in their stuff.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Justin Rhodes is good.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, those are those are two to keep you'll they'll they'll pump you up.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: They're good stuff.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, great.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_02: And now and we're running out of time, so I'm gonna try to do more of a lightning round to get through some of these questions.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, Joel.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um Joel, do you know of any reputable um organic or regenerative farmers that don't vaccinate in the Kansas City, Missouri area near the Kansas border?
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know, um that question could be asked for any part of the country, and I yeah, I I don't keep a Rolodex of all these people, um, but if you go to um Joe Robinson's website, uh eatwild, eatwild.com or the Weston A Price, um, the sh the shop, the the shopping guide, the Weston A Price shopping guide, how about that?
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_01: I was able to put my hands on that and musk all this desk.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um the eatwild.com and the the Weston A Price shopping guide are probably two of the most uh comprehensive and clean, you know, uh a clean what indices there are out there.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, great.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_02: Let me do um let me if Joel, um are you guys okay if I do a couple more quick ones and then um Nolan's gonna end us off with a question from Christine.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_02: Is that okay?
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's great.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so one is can you talk?
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_02: This is from Abby.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_02: Can you talk about non-toxic sunscreen options and the idea of eating your sunscreen?
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, um, yes, I'll be quick on this one.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_02: So the there the environmental working group has a list of they've they've rated the sunscreens.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um I when I was using sunscreen, I used to use one I think it's called um all good.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: It was, but it's it wasn't, it was this the stick, like they had a kind of a sunscreen lotion one, and then they had the sports stick, and the sports stick had the like least amount of chemicals in it.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_02: So I used to use that one, the all good one.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_02: They may have changed the ingredient list now, but it was only like three ingredients, and it worked out well.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but now uh yeah, topes and company, yes, from Rachel.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you can make your own, but also so what I do now is I don't actually use sunscreen, I do I eat my sunscreen.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_02: So there is a lot of research that if you do have enough um antioxidants in your body, for example, like you're not nutrient deficient, okay, you have enough antioxidants in your body that you you don't need the sunscreen.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um that you could you will actually produce like a natural sunscreen, protect your skin from it.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so that's actually what I do.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: And my caveat is I don't usually go out in the sun between the hours of like 12 and 3.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know, they say like 11 to 3, but usually we'll we'll do like morning watering whole play dates.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_02: And so realistically, we get back in the house by around noon because we do it all morning.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_02: But from noon to three, I'm usually not outside um in those in that time period because of the differences in the rays, and then I just eat my sunscreen.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um Joel from Marna, do you ever move fences with your wife?
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_02: And how do you avoid how do you how do you avoid marriage counseling?
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_01: How do you avoid marriage counseling?
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_02: Because you've been so you you know, you've been together for so long, right?
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_01: So then we're uh we're coming up on 43, 43 this year.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um and uh uh you know, before the you know, before the kids were big, we worked very, very closely together on a lot of things.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think she ever she ever made electric fence with me, though.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, electric fence is kind of a one-man or or one person, not I don't want to be sexist here, one-person thing.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_01: You had you know you have your reel and your stakes and you put them out.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so I've never needed uh help doing that.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_01: We I she used to drive the tractor for me to make hay and things like that.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_01: But um uh, you know, we kind of have our different domains, and I think that's really uh that's really beneficial to have um uh you know uh a sphere spheres of of autonomy.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't try to tell her what she's gonna cook and she doesn't tell me where to move the cows, and so you know, we get to make uh uh simultaneous decisions and we get a lot more done that way, and I have my space, she's got her space, and and um we're we're still very much in love.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's so sweet.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, and I will add that uh that Teresa tells me that she gets a break because you travel a lot.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, people say, does she ever travel with you?
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_01: No, that's when she goes, uh she gets to sleep in, stay up late, you know, and and and and catch up on projects.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_01: And so um, so it it's been yeah, it it's good.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah, we'd love to be together, but but everybody needs some space once in a while, and um, and it's good to respect that to respect that space a little bit.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and then um sorry, it keeps they keep moving up.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_02: There's one, I'm looking for her name.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, Martha, Cena, are there any recipe books that you would recommend?
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it moved up again.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um basically recommend for kids for giving them Whole Foods, you know, kids that are picky eaters.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I personally have not found a recipe, a cookbook that my kids love, that's Whole Foods.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_02: But um, I wasn't planning on talking about this today, but my kids and I are actually creating a cookbook together that we're gonna publish.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_02: So we're about halfway done with it.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it is based on all the foods that my kids are willing to eat, and you know, it's it's predominantly whole foods.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_02: So hopefully that will be coming out soon.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yay!
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_01: One thing on that, Cena.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's really important to recognize that well-sourced food tastes better.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_01: And uh El Elliot Coleman, Elliot Coleman, the uh you know, the Four Seasons Harvest Organic Manifesto uh guru uh says that he he knew he had arrived as a gardener when his baby carrots were the most sought-after trade item at the local school.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, kids trade lunches, and kids trade lunches, and when he found out that his baby carrots were the number one trade item in the local school, he knew he'd arrived as a gardener.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_01: I think there I think there's a lot to that.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, people tell us your chickens have taste.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, we don't have to put sauce and pepper and and salt and everything on them.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_01: The meat, you know, it it it has taste.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_01: And and when it when it's full of phytochemicals and and um and enzymes and all that stuff, it it does, it does have more taste.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_01: And so uh so you know, the difference between a uh you know a cardboard, a cardboard Walmart tomato and one grown in your yard that oozes juice all down your elbow.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's no comparison.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: And and you know, kids, kids will grab a tomato like that, eat it like an eat it like an apple, you know.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's messy, but it's wonderful, as opposed to a cardboard tomato out of Walmart, you know, eh, not so much.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_01: Who wants to eat who wants to eat cardboard?
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_02: Not me.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um Nolan, do you want to chime in with the with the last question?
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I'm so sorry, there's so many questions we didn't get to all of them.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, so the last question is one that uh is about hope, I think.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so it's from Christine.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'd love to hear both of your views on the upcoming generations in America.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_00: I came across research recently that shows that millennials and Gen Z are much more comfortable with the government solving problems for them than older generations.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_00: What message would you want to send to the younger generations?
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_00: Do you foresee homesteading and self-sufficiency and the family movement losing traction with the upcoming generation?
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_02: Jill, do you want to go first?
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, well, I can, especially since lit literally yesterday, yesterday C and I finished the final edits on my new book, uh Homestead Tsunami, Good for Country Critters and Kids.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: And it should be out by hopefully by the first of September.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_01: So that's been my my slog for the last couple of weeks trying to get that that finished out.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm excited to kind of today I feel like I've come up for air.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_01: But uh yeah, you're right.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: You're right.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um in fact I just I just uh pulled a Wall Street Journal article yesterday.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it says Gen Z Gen Z or Gen Z yearns for stability.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: And uh they're not they're not uh they don't have initiative.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh they're they're primarily victims and um and and want stability more than anything, and stability is very close to security, security coming from the government, you know, uh make us secure.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_01: And uh that that is that is extremely uh uh concerning.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_01: And so, yeah, uh the hope is here here's here's the so yeah, is there plenty to be uh concerned about?
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, there is.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, you I I have not been quiet about saying I'm I'm actually quite concerned about where our culture is headed.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's I don't think it's headed in a positive direction as a culture.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_01: However, I'm very positive about what individuals can do and and neighborhoods and friends and and tribes tribes can do to um you know to build um to build resilient community you know uh um privately uh outside.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think the government's heading in a good place.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_01: I I think there's a lot of um a lot of uh concern there as well.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_01: But that's not where I put my faith.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_01: I don't put my I don't put my trust in the government, and I think it'll take it'll take some some crises and catastrophes for the Gen Zers to realize that uh that the nanny state um isn't a very fun nanny.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_01: And uh and and I think I think uh it'll take some calamity uh to make that happen.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_01: And and I I you know I don't I don't wish for it.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I do.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_01: My little demon on my shoulder says, Yeah man, I want people to be in trouble, you know, so they find out that you know uh uh money doesn't grow on trees and and and you know uh milk doesn't come out of the store.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um so you you know I understand that, but uh I I think I think that the homestead movement is here to stay.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um the thing that gives me as much hope as anything is that 37% of Americans did not get the jab.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_01: 37%.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh our population of 330 million or 340 million right now, 37% didn't get the jab, and probably 10 to 20 percent more wish they hadn't.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_01: So we're approaching 50 percent of Americans, I think, that question Dr.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_01: Fauci at uh you know and company.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um and that's a very positive thing.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_01: The two black swan events of uh of COVID and now uh Putin invading Ukraine, fertilizer prices, uh avian high path avian influenza, uh egg prices are up eight, nine, ten dollars a dozen.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, all of those things are are are getting Americans' attention.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_01: I can tell you that because I am telling you there are homestead conferences popping up everywhere, and that's why I wrote this book.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_01: I I I I think I think that the um you know the desire, the the concern uh in people's minds is is really, really high.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_01: And um uh are a lot of people uh unconcerned, you know, as long as there's beer in the fridge and and NFL on TV, everything's good.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there are a lot of people like that too.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_01: But there is a growing number of people who are who are looking at these these signposts and saying, it's time to build a parallel universe.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm doing everything I can to facilitate the success of building parallel universes.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's where we're headed.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that was so good.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um and and actually, just to give a little teaser, Joel and I have been talking on the side about next, not this summit, because this one's already planned, but the following summit, the following summer.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_02: We've been talking about creating one around um this a parallel, not only food system, but a parallel medical system.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_02: So um let us know if you like that concept of us doing a summit around um how we can create a parallel food and also medical system.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um so I completely agree with everything that you said, Joel.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_02: And um I'm very hopeful because I feel like I feel like a lot of people have woken up, you know, and more and more are waking up.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um and and we're gonna get more on board once we can get the message out about what they're doing now with the food supply.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_02: And for me, I'm focusing as well on the younger kids, you know, like kids my age, you know, my kids' age, like eight, ten, you know, into the teens and whatnot, you know.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um and what I'm gonna what I'm trying to do now, working with my kids, is we're trying to create an online curriculum so that we can actually teach kids the truth.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like even what kids are learning in school with the you know, the old food guide pyramid, the my plate, now whatever it's called, um, all of these are just lies, you know, and so we're actually thinking about creating this curriculum that can be used anywhere in the world where we just educate the kids because kids are so smart.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_02: If you just tell them the truth, like while they're young, you tell them the truth and give them a choice, they'll make the right choice.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like I've seen it in my own kids, in choosing between the store-bought dessert and then the one that we made at home, right?
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_02: You do a product comparison, lay it all out for them, and then you ask them, you choose, and they'll always choose the healthier one, right?
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_02: They know instinctively which one is bad.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_02: So, my goal is also to try to harness those children, like to educate them and teach them how to harness their God-given power, you know, that that what is inside them, and that that's how they actually can be free, right?
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_02: Is to actually learn how to harness their own God-given power.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_02: And if they're sick, they're not gonna be free.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_02: They're gonna be in a state of fear, they're gonna be in chronic fight or flight, they're gonna be looking for somebody to save them.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_02: And unfortunately, we tend to look to the government and the medical doctors who've been trained, you know, in by this government system.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_02: And so I want to empower them on how to eat healthy, empower them on the truth behind the food supply, behind the medical industry, so that they stay healthy, so they don't get into that space of fear, and they know how to save themselves.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_02: You know, they know how to connect with their own intuition and um intuitive from God so they can follow God and not the system.
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the the mainline, the mainline institutions in this country are uh are losing credibility by the day.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_01: And uh and and that's a that's a good thing.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's a good thing for these nefarious agendas to be to finally uh go into uh question in in the culture in the country.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_01: And so um so a as though you know looks I I don't I don't like child leukemia, I don't like autism, I don't like uh any of those kinds.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_01: I don't like the fact that you know only only 20% of Gen Zers are even physically capable of being in the military.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean the these are these are mega trends that are that are beginning to um to crack the walls of the of of our of our historic castles, if you will.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and so what what what we represent, and I'm I'm using we inclusively, not Cena and I and Nolan here, but but but all you know we our our tribe here uh what we represent is is gunpowder to the castles of our orthodox institutions.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_01: And um so let's encourage each other, let's help each other, let's be let's be more informed, more educated, and more able to carry the argument, more able to carry the argument of alternative um uh uh to our friends and family, you know.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh they need to hear this message.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, put down the Coca-Cola and um and listen to this a little bit.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_01: And um and you know, uh as the thing, you know, it's it's it's darkest right before the dawn.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_01: And so uh so I I'm confident that we're gonna have some hard times ahead, but hard times make good people, and I'm ready for more good people.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I love that.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_02: All right, and we're about to wrap up.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Joel, we're gonna end with you.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_02: Jessica has asked, is ending with prayer an option?
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Joel, are you comfortable ending us in prayer in just a moment?
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, I'm glad to.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so right before we wrap up, can you, if you know, if you feel inclined in the chat box, can you type in like, was this live QA helpful?
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_02: Was you know, do you want to do it again?
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, does it help you feel connected, like we are a tribe, like you're not alone, we've got your back.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_02: So if you can give us that feedback, then we'll know how to move forward with this tribe that we're trying to create.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_02: We're here for you guys, you know, as much as we uh we are here for us so that we don't feel alone, right, Joel?
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_02: So so let us know.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, good, yes.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_02: They're saying, yes, love it.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_02: Let's do it again.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_02: Is tomorrow good?
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm free.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yes, yes, yes, this is amazing.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, great.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll keep doing live Q ⁇ A's then.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_02: Is that cool with you, Joel?
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, I I can't can't do it every day.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_01: I can't do it every week, but uh I got a I got a lot of I got a lot of irons in the fire.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_01: Our our stewards, our stewards have just uh showed up, so we're we're uh tomorrow is our our introductory um um barbecue dinner with our new st uh stewards for the season, and um and so we've got we've got a lot of a lot of uh pieces moving around right now on the farm.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's great.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, well we'll work it in with your schedule.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_02: We don't want to overtax you, but you know, if Teresa needs a break for an hour, we'll take you.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like That's right.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_01: I maybe I need to move my move my desk and all this uh paraphernalia out to a out to a dog house and then.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, with a t shirt.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_02: Oh Andrew says if Joel can't make it, maybe Teresa can.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, Teresa is like Yeah, no, that that that'll be the day.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_01: That'll be the day when that happens.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_02: I would I was already I'm really trying to ask before I was like Teresa, let's do like a cooking session together.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_02: We can cook, teach them in the kitchen, we can do canning, and no, it Joel's the in front of the camera, Teresa's the brains and the beauty behind it.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, as as as my as my as our uh publicist Wendy says, uh I may be the head, but Teresa's the neck.
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_01: And and and the neck, the neck turns the head wherever it wants to go.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_01: So she she calls Teresa the neck.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_01: Hi, neck.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_01: Isn't that hilarious?
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_02: When I come out in June, I'm gonna call her the neck.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_01: She'll love that.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, great.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, no, we've kept everybody 20 minutes over.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_02: We, you know, we're apologizing, we want to be respectful of your time.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you all so much for joining us.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_02: This has been great.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for waiting through waiting with us with the technical difficulties in the beginning, but we got it all set, and it's been great spending time with you.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Joel, um, if you want to mind, do the pleasure and go ahead and sign us out with a prayer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sure, great.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Lord, uh, it's just been great.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, you don't have to close your eyes.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're he's here, he sees us, we can see him anytime too.
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  SPEAKER_01: So uh so it's just good to be able to communicate directly with God, greatly with the Lord, and and uh and know that he's here and know that he sees, know that he's he's interested in everything that we're interested in.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_01: And so uh it's been great to share together, and um and and we we do pray for our country.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_01: We pray for its direction, we pray for our leaders, President Biden all the way down to uh all of our local elected officials, that they would have wisdom and that they would have uh um that they would pursue truth and seek righteousness and sacredness.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we are admonished to pray for our leaders, and so we do that and and ask you forgive us when we when we neglect to do that.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_01: We we we pray for everyone that's in our tribe here, we're we're all just we're trying to do right and we're trying to make um you know make our lives more productive uh for your goals and for what's sacred and what's noble.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so empower us and encourage us in that regard, and we're just grateful to be able to be a part of uh of your plan.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we pray it in our Lord's name, amen.