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NFL QB Contract Discussions and How Would You Change the Schedule? | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, May twenty third.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hour is brought
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  Speaker 2: to you by Ancient City Brewing and now a guy
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  Speaker 2: who believes a golfer should never consider himself too good
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  Speaker 3: Shadwer.
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  Speaker 1: It certainly is the hot topic of the day. Welcome man,
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  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick with you. Busy hour
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  Speaker 1: ahead as organized team activities continue the Jaguars on the
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  Speaker 1: practice field this week, a few more weeks to go.
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  Speaker 1: Quarterback contract conversation has been a topic for the last
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  Speaker 1: week or so. We'll get into that, see where the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars may be thinking about their quarterback. Moving ahead, keeping
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  Speaker 1: it real as we always do, and Microsoft questions coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour brought to you by Ancient City Brewing's
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  Speaker 1: History Make History on ten x l a M Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman and
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  Speaker 1: we're both back in the same room again. It's been
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. How are you good. I'm good. I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: How about you? I'm also good. I miss a week
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  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden I come back and we've
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  Speaker 1: got a beer sponsor. Yeah, and we get when did
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  Speaker 1: we get some of that last week? And then we
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  Speaker 1: need a case here Anastasia Island style. I p a
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  Speaker 1: thank you, I'll take a case. I'm with you on that.
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  Speaker 1: I like that. My wife likes the Matanzas River red Ale.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she likes that. Sounds pretty good. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: good good stuff, good stuff. Yeah, but we've got to
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  Speaker 1: have like a flight. We need like a refrigerator out
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  Speaker 1: of the room for a flight right here. You get
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  Speaker 1: you a little flight right there. You know, you make
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  Speaker 1: this happen. I mean, this is let's make a send
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  Speaker 1: a text. Come on, come on, Craig. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know you, Greg, but come on, we're about to know
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  Speaker 1: each other. I uh hey, so a lot going on obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Ota is here. We'll get to Trevor Lawrence and the
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  Speaker 1: negotiations slash conversations that may or may not be going on.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, remember when Jalen Ramsey said to
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  Speaker 1: back up the Brinks truck. He didn't say it, he
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  Speaker 1: backed up the actual Brinks truck. Remember that. Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: this whole Trevor Lawrence contract that's going to be back
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  Speaker 1: in the Brinks truck, though, I'd say, yeah, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a really big Brinks truck. We'll keep it
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  Speaker 1: real when we get to that. Coming up in just
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Organized team activities going on. The Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: are back on the field today. They're off tomorrow, all right,
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  Speaker 1: So they're out there now. They're doing things. The new
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  Speaker 1: defensive coordinators out there, they're implementing some ideas, they're working
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  Speaker 1: players in different spots and that's kind of what this
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  Speaker 1: time of year is for. But before the first organized
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  Speaker 1: team activity practice on Monday, head coach Doug Peterson was
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  Speaker 1: asked what does he expect the next month stay healthy?
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's we're still look this the this next
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  Speaker 4: phase is it's good to be able to do a
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  Speaker 4: little competition and compete against each other, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: within the rules, it's we've got to make sure we
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  Speaker 4: protect each other.
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  Speaker 1: You just don't want the injuries.
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  Speaker 4: We're still again, we're still teaching and learning and developing and.
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  Speaker 1: And you know all of that.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I don't really go into it with
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  Speaker 4: a lot of depth charts in mind, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we're trying to get everybody opportunity to put them on
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  Speaker 4: you know, put them on film and see what we
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  Speaker 4: do have.
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  Speaker 1: So that's Doug Peterson and this time of year for Doug,
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  Speaker 1: he gets what this is the the it's very important. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: training camp is where it really gets real going into
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  Speaker 1: the regular season. However, this is the time of year
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  Speaker 1: where you get some things rolling. I think the whole
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  Speaker 1: objective of the OTAs is to get ready for training camp.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, as far as the mental aspect, because once
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  Speaker 1: you hit the training camp then it's about okay, everybody's
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  Speaker 1: got to have the mental aspect of it down. Now
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  Speaker 1: we can actually evaluate the mental ass and also the
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  Speaker 1: physical aspect. I mean, you can only evaluate so much
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  Speaker 1: right now. You might be looking at a lot of
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  Speaker 1: players right now that oh man, they really assimilate the
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  Speaker 1: information quick and when you ask them questions, they give
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  Speaker 1: me the right answer all the time. Well then all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden it's ninety degrees and it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: on play twenty five, and all of a sudden they're
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  Speaker 1: gassed a little bit and they're getting physically beat up
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. That's when you need to find out
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  Speaker 1: whether they can react or not. And so you can't
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  Speaker 1: evaluate any of that at this time of year. So again,
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  Speaker 1: the OTAs are essentially preparing your team to go to
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  Speaker 1: training camp. And when Doug was d asked about the
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  Speaker 1: goals of the OTA program, the first words out of
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  Speaker 1: his mouth was to stay healthy, and that should be
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  Speaker 1: the number one priority. To stay healthy, but then also
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  Speaker 1: to get healthy because there's numerous guys on his football
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  Speaker 1: team that did not finish last year healthy, some that
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  Speaker 1: may have had to just rehab, some that may have
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  Speaker 1: required surgery, some that may have just required rest. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and some guys you had, some guys you didn't. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: getting to training camp with the knowledge to be able
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  Speaker 1: to compete fast in training camp, and then also to
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  Speaker 1: get into training camp healthy is priority number one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: everybody has a plan, I guess until they get punched
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  Speaker 1: in the mouth. Right from a player's perspective, and that's
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  Speaker 1: the old Mike Tyson line, right, and you show up
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  Speaker 1: against another team in a preseason game, you realize, oh,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, okay, now this is well that's a
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  Speaker 1: little different. That's exactly right, because you know, there there's
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  Speaker 1: no way that you can try to simulate the physical
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  Speaker 1: nature of the job requirement. It just it just doesn't work.
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  Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with a friend of mine
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  Speaker 1: in fact earlier today, and it was brought up and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, look this, you know, the question was
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  Speaker 1: asked about, you know, how you deal with injuries and
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  Speaker 1: how tough some of these guys are. And my response was,
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  Speaker 1: this is the ultimate gladiator sport. It is, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think there's anything that would compare to football as
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  Speaker 1: far as the way that the guys are willing and
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  Speaker 1: able to sacrifice their bodies to play the game. And
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  Speaker 1: it's not for everybody, and it's not for everybody when
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  Speaker 1: when you have to do that under a lot of
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  Speaker 1: strain and duress, mental and physical, and so that's why
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  Speaker 1: there's not there's not everybody lining up to try to
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  Speaker 1: play football. It's not for everybody. Not for me anymore either.
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  Speaker 1: It was for a long time though. If I could
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  Speaker 1: physically play the game JP I would literally be playing now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the ultimate gladiator sport. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing that could compare nothing. I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 1: the adrenaline rush that you get in that sport is
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  Speaker 1: second to none. And that's why, I mean a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times it can be difficult and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you went through this when you walk away from
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  Speaker 1: the game or are told you're no longer good enough
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  Speaker 1: to play the game, filling that void somehow, Well, you
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  Speaker 1: never fill the void completely because it's just so unique.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of people say that, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: they leave the game, they like to try to find
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  Speaker 1: a way to channel some of that energy. But you
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  Speaker 1: can find a way to expend the energy, but it's
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  Speaker 1: hard to channel that energy because because that energy is
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  Speaker 1: so unique. But you just have to realize that. You
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  Speaker 1: know that there are things that last and there are
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  Speaker 1: other things that don't last, and that falls into the
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  Speaker 1: category of not lasting. But it's you know, while it lasted,
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  Speaker 1: it was amazing, you know, and lasted for a number
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  Speaker 1: of years because I started contact football when I was
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  Speaker 1: eight years old, you know, which I think is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, if you're a parent right now, do
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  Speaker 1: not allow your kids to play contact football at the
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  Speaker 1: age of eight. That's insanity. It just doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 1: The body, the mind, the brain is all still developing.
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  Speaker 1: That's like a toll know, no, we know so much
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  Speaker 1: more now, but you know, once they get into middle school,
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  Speaker 1: you know, then you can start to bring some of
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  Speaker 1: that in onto the table, but I would even wait
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  Speaker 1: till high school or on ten ten XLAM, Jaguars dot Com,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube JP Shadrick Jeff Logman on Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hear from defensive coordinator Ryan Nielsen. It's his first year,
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  Speaker 1: of course with the Jaguars, trying to get the new
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  Speaker 1: defense implemented and trying to get a good look at
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  Speaker 1: all the players that are new to.
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  Speaker 5: Him this part of the year and then up in
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  Speaker 5: a couple of first couple weeks in camp. We have
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  Speaker 5: an idea, we have a really good idea, but we're
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  Speaker 5: still we're still in that process of moving guys around.
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  Speaker 5: The more you can do, you know, and I think
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  Speaker 5: you can play a lot of years in this league
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  Speaker 5: if you can do more jobs. And so we don't
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  Speaker 5: want to just pigeonhole guys right now. And hey, this
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  Speaker 5: is this now. There are certain guys on our defense
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  Speaker 5: that you know are gonna play a certain position. You know,
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  Speaker 5: Devon Hamilton, he's gonna play defensive tower. We know that, right.
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  Speaker 5: But some of these guys that can play two or
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  Speaker 5: three positions, we're going to put them at these different positions.
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  Speaker 5: In these OTAs, it's a great opportunity to see what
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  Speaker 5: guys can do.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, Nielsen, defensive coordinator, And I think we've seen
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  Speaker 1: that first at least the one day that we were
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  Speaker 1: able to be out there as the media. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 1: moving guys around in different formations, and is what you
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  Speaker 1: should do. The one thing I think by that you
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  Speaker 1: also accomplished by moving guys around and we're not again
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  Speaker 1: he said, you're not moving to Von Hamilton linebacker or
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  Speaker 1: the corner. I actually think that they should do that
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  Speaker 1: at times, just see if you can move around. Well.
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  Speaker 1: The reason I say that, and I'll kind of relate
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  Speaker 1: it to more position specific first, because if you know
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  Speaker 1: what everybody is doing. For example, let's say you and
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  Speaker 1: I are both defensive linemen. You're a tackle, I'm an end. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm a little more athletic than you, you're a
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  Speaker 1: little bit bulkier than me, so your defensive tackle three technically,
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  Speaker 1: ok Yeah, you got a little bit of I'm good
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  Speaker 1: with that. If if I line up, even though I'm
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  Speaker 1: just let's say I'm a pure defensive end, let's and
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  Speaker 1: if I line up at your spot and I get
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  Speaker 1: a really good understanding of what you're doing that actually
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  Speaker 1: can help me understand the whole mechanism and help me
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  Speaker 1: understand the whole process. Uh. For example, if you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out how to fix a bike, and if
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  Speaker 1: you just know that this little bolt right here is
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  Speaker 1: designed to hold that on, but if you know the
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  Speaker 1: whole function of that bolt as it relates to the
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  Speaker 1: entire bike, it's a little bit easier to learn because
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  Speaker 1: it's a system. I think systems are easier to learn
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  Speaker 1: when you understand what the different components do. At least
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  Speaker 1: it always was that way for me. So if you
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  Speaker 1: have a Devon Hamilton who also is mainly a nose tackle,
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  Speaker 1: then you can also flip into three. Okay, maybe even
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  Speaker 1: flip in the end at times at this time of year,
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  Speaker 1: because that way it just gives him an understanding, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: here's what I'm doing, and maybe this is what I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing because he's doing that, so that you get a
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  Speaker 1: little bit understanding of the whole process. Now, it would
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  Speaker 1: be awesome if you could play maybe a corner in
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  Speaker 1: at defensive tackle and then he would understand why his
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  Speaker 1: coverage is doing what he's doing from a covered standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: because it relates to what the front's doing. That's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit much. But in the real world, would it
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  Speaker 1: be possible to do so? Would it be capable do that? Mentally? Maybe?
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  Speaker 1: But it's good that Ryan's moving guys around like that
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  Speaker 1: just because it does help him understand the defense and
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  Speaker 1: the move around from this perspective is, you know, probably
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  Speaker 1: linebacker's playing all three type of positions right just to
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  Speaker 1: see if you know, what looks different, and then right
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  Speaker 1: corner playing the left safety is interchangeable, nickel safety playing
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  Speaker 1: right in, right in playing the left end. I mean yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean there's some guys that you know that,
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  Speaker 1: like Antonio Johnson, for example, the rookie who we felt
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  Speaker 1: and I believe is going to be a really good
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  Speaker 1: football player, is a safety. Last year he played nickel,
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  Speaker 1: so he's probably going to get some snaps at nickels,
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  Speaker 1: get some snaps at safety, and you know what, why
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  Speaker 1: not try him some snaps out at corner. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's got a unique physical skill set. I mean, so
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  Speaker 1: there are some guys that had the ability to multitask,
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  Speaker 1: and he used Ryan just used a line that actually
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  Speaker 1: goes back to the early days of the New York Jets.
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  Speaker 1: The head equipment manager there, which was Bill Hampton Senior,
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  Speaker 1: used that line all the time. It was then I
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  Speaker 1: actually use that in my speech the other day about
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Sexton. Anyway, it's on the sidebar and Bill Hampton
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  Speaker 1: Senior told me this, and the line was the more
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  Speaker 1: you can do, young man, the more you can do.
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  Speaker 1: And he was telling you that because he wanted you
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  Speaker 1: to understand that you have more value the more that
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  Speaker 1: you could do as a football player. But on a
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  Speaker 1: side note, he also was telling you that because he
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  Speaker 1: wanted you to help fold the towels in the laundry
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  Speaker 1: room and equipment room, and we did. We actually used
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  Speaker 1: to go in there and help the fold towels. But
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  Speaker 1: it was it's a very telling, very informative line, and
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  Speaker 1: it's something in foot ball it definitely applies. The schedule
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  Speaker 1: is finally here and you don't want to miss you
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  Speaker 1: don't matchups, you don't like it. Well, we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: that in the moment. I don't mind. Can I just
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  Speaker 1: read the promo first? Say whether you want to become
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  Speaker 1: a season ticket member there's three or more games with
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  Speaker 1: the bundle at the bank, or experience the season with
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  Speaker 1: the prow pass. Well, there's a plan for every fan logs,
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  Speaker 1: get locked in Jaguars dot com, slash tickets or call
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  Speaker 1: nine oh four six three three two thousand. That's too strong.
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  Speaker 1: I do like the schedule. We'll come back and kind
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  Speaker 1: of touch of this. I want to because there are
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  Speaker 1: parts that you don't like. There are some I think
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  Speaker 1: more difficult parts than others. You you want to have
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  Speaker 1: this silver platter schedule? Yeah, well who doesn't. Okay, Well
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  Speaker 1: we come back. I want to get your thoughts because
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  Speaker 1: we haven't talked about it. I'll give you my thoughts
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  Speaker 1: and then I want to get your thoughts because I
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  Speaker 1: want to know what you would change to that schedule
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  Speaker 1: to make it better. Well, yeah, okay, let we'll come
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  Speaker 1: back in a moment. You got like two minutes to
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  Speaker 1: think about this. Jaguars Happy Hour brought to you by
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  Speaker 1: Ancient City Brewing Taste history, make history.
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  Speaker 6: And I can't attack it what you same in titles
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  Speaker 6: last year because I want different results, So I take
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  Speaker 6: you doing the same thing, inspect different results. So I
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  Speaker 6: try to change it up and just keep get bigger.
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  Speaker 1: Fast and stronger.
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  Speaker 6: And for that I kind of took it back to
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  Speaker 6: like my college workouts this year, just focusing on just
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  Speaker 6: muscle mess stuff like that, just to try to just
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  Speaker 6: get bigger so that throughout the season I'm able to
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  Speaker 6: withstand all those hiss and all those bows, and I
• 14:38
  Speaker 6: kind of know what it tastes to be in the
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  Speaker 6: league nine to full seventeen games, So I kind of
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  Speaker 6: know what's the type doing offseason now.
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  Speaker 1: Travis et in Junior Jaguars running back earlier this week
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  Speaker 1: after organized team Activities Practice number one and Welcome Back.
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  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour, brought to you by Ancient City Brewing.
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  Speaker 1: Taste History, Make History, and the conversations from those the
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  Speaker 1: players we talked with available at Jaguars dot Com and
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube. Hey Logs. Yeah, Premier League soccer is coming
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  Speaker 1: to EverBank Stadium really July twenty seventh. It's a Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: It's the first weekend of training camp. Okay, Wolverhampton and
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  Speaker 1: West Ham United. They'll compete for the State Side Cup
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  Speaker 1: at the Bank. Yeah, it's a Saturday. Tickets on sale now.
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  Speaker 1: Visit EverBank Stadium. That'd be fun to go to. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know much about the size of soccer fields.
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  Speaker 1: You can fit a soccer field inside the sea. They've
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  Speaker 1: played soccer in there before. Okay, I'm just making sure
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really know. Yeah, all right, cool,
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  Speaker 1: So that's that'll be fun. Yeah, I actually enjoy watching
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  Speaker 1: soccer now that I have You been to a Fulham game? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: when when the team's over there? Yeah, fun, I have.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a it's definitely a great cultural experience. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's a trip. It really is. The Uh it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: wild how you can have that many fans show up
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, how do they all get here? And
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  Speaker 1: then after the game, all of a sudden you're like,
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  Speaker 1: where do they all go? Yeah, it's very different that
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  Speaker 1: they Yeah, especially yeah, especially there. Take a train walks
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  Speaker 1: through some neighborhood and boom, there's a stadium. You're like,
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  Speaker 1: how did they get a stadium here? Yeah? How did
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  Speaker 1: they get like any kind of construction equipment to redo
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  Speaker 1: the stadium recently? I don't know, but it's an amazing place.
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  Speaker 1: It is. We're on text lam Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: YouTube JP Shadwick. That's Jeff Loghman. A little bit later
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  Speaker 1: and probably about ten minutes or so, we'll keep it
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  Speaker 1: real with the quarterback contract conversation. We'll see, Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: that scened. Was that a sigh? What was that? Was
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  Speaker 1: that reaction? No, that was just like hmm okay, that's
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  Speaker 1: like that's a lot your dress. It's almost a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money. It's almost like you're dreading talking. No, no, no, no, no, no,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: that's I don't dread talking about that at all. I
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: just hope that that this contract is aggressively pursued because
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: there are two things that you've learned as a team,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I think, and that if you wait, it can cost
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: you a lot of money, Josh Allen. And the other
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: lesson that can be learned by watching another team is
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: look at the Dallas Cowboys right now. They're in a
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: tough situation with Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott holds a lot
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: of leverage right now because your cap hit is so high.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: All right, let's save the rest of this for keeping
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: it real about ten minutes or so, which is a
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: little previous. I love that. Yeah, not that. I kind
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: of see where you might be thinking, let's get it done.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Schedules out. We haven't spoken since the schedule. We have
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: not came out on the fifteenth, did it. I don't
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: it was the fifteenth. It was like a Wednesday, like Wednesday,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Wednesday a week ago. Yes, the fifteenth. Yeah, you said
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it. That's too that's too aggressive. That's
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: too aggressive. No, no, that's really not Actually I was
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: using your exact words. No I didn't. I said it
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: said it's tough. There's some tough stretches. So I said
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: three out of the first four on the road against
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: playoff teams. Mm hmmm. I think that's a tough stretch
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: by definition. If you're a good team, you can manage this.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: If you're a bad team, you're gonna get blown out anyway. Okay,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: no matter the schedule. Right, let's get specific about these
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: teams because you're you're you're sitting there going, oh wow,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: playoff team at the Dolphins, the fastest ofphense in football.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Browns come here, Miles Garrett. Right, we'll see what. Okay,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: but last time I checked last year in Cleveland, if
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: you just played well, you'd won that game. Okay, And
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: they don't have ay have a quarterback situation that is unresolved,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: but they play really good defense. Yes, correct, thank you.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: At the Bills Monday Night Football, I've lost a lot
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: of there's been a lot of a lot of subtractions
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: with that roster, and there has not been a lot
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: of addition of the Jags beat them last year, that
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: beat them and not like three guys out of the game,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: and then at Houston, which is obviously with what happened
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: last year, a big deal. So I think those are tough. Man. Well,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think the Cults are going to
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: be tough in Week five too, because it's a division opponents.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: So I look, I mean, you got you gotta play
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: teams that are you know, that are good at some point.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't just sit there and play a
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: bunch of pansies you can't control you play. It's like, okay,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: let me ask you. Yes, it's an NFL schedule, they're
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: all hard. If you could replace those four teams, okay,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: with four other opponents, okay, from the rest of your
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: schedule okay, and just off the top of your head,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: who would you put in there? I put the Titans earlier, Okay,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: what else? That's one team the Bears maybe, yeah, maybe
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: earlier Caleb Williams, but they're coming up rosis yeah, So
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: just the next good defense. Next stretch is Week six
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: and Week seven, possibly rookie quarterbacks against you the Bears
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and the Patriots in London. Well, so you'd like to
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: have the Bears and the Patriots and the Titans. Well,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind the Titans. There's two Titans games in
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the last five weeks of the season. Okay, that's good,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: which couldn't be good if it's good, you know whatever.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Most schedules are division heavy towards the end. I'm like, fine,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: makes things to interesting. So in theory it's the last stretch,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: maybe you can, you know, make a run, right if
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: some of these teams aren't as strong in theory, you
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: don't know, it's all in theory. These teams could stink
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: in the first month. I don't know, yeah, because I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: mean the NFL is such a year to year thing.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: You don't know that. That's why I'm not such a
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: week one if it had San Francisco, Kansas City up
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: there with I mean, who else are to consider the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: top teams? Dallas has always been good really early in
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the year. Okay, then I would be okay, you know
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that's that's a tough start. But you know how look Cleveland,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: last time I checked their offense is just kind of
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: And they have a quarterback who got a bunch of
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: guaranteed money who has done nothing yet he done nothing. Okay,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Week one, Okay, with the Miami Dolphins, did you see it,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: by the way, did you see how they finished last year?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: It was a whimper going out at the end of
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the year last year. Okay, Yeah, they were fast last year,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and yeah they scored a lot of points last year,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the season, how do they look? Right?
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: But you never I mean, that's I'm with you. But
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: it's in Miami. It's gonna be hotter than Blaze. I'm
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: just glad that. Look, this team at Buffalo is in September,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Ninetycember trip to Buffalo. Yeah, so I'm going to complain
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: about that. Let's look at the positive. It could be
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: a difficult place to play. I get that right, in Buffalo,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: way better than snowballs in December. Tell you that. Next
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: stretch at London, of course, the Bears at Spurs, and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: then the Patriots at Wembley, possibly two rookie quarterbacks. Then
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: it's back home against Green Bay and a surging time
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: in the Packers, an up and coming team maybe. Okay,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: with Jordan Love. And then at the Eagles and that
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: team that's a team that's ruggled last year and a
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: team that's undergone some change. You know, they've gone undergone
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: some change on both sides of the ball. From a
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: coaching standpoint, you know, how will that look in Philadelphia?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting wass Sunday night football in
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: South Philly. And then home against the Vikings. I'm thinking
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Chief Steaks too, now, all of them. I'm gonna hit
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: both of Tony Luke's all sorts of I'm not Tony Luke's. Yeah,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: but gat the one. You get one and then you
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: go to the other one, get another one. Yeah, why
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you right across the shi chief Steak trup. Yes,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: it is usually is Vikings at home. After that, then
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: at the Lions. Who's gonna play quarterback for them? You
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: think it's a great question either way. The Lions will
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: be good. The Lions are gonna be I think they're
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: gonna be It's a tough place when they're good. I'm
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: just glad we're not going to Detroit on Thanksgiving, so
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that's another positive. JP. A lot of Jaggs fans on
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: social media were kind of pulled for that in the
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: build up to the schedule. I like, thanksgaving at home.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: It's and that's you got to think about it too.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Obviously it's a short week. That's my favorite holiday road
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: game on a short week, twelve thirty kick on a Thursday.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's in Detroit, and that is like their
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: super Bowl there. It's a big deal. Well, I think
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: every game is like they're going to be a super
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Bowl in Detroit for their their fan base. They don't
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: think they were sold out a month ago. They're yeah,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: they're they're from a from a season's ticket standpoint. Yeah,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: they're back. It's uh. And then he just gave Jared
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Goff what do you give him? Like fifty million a
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: bunch of money. I'm on Ros saying Brown got a
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: big payday already as well, Pina Suel, Yeah, they've paid
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: a bunch of people. They've paid a bunch of guys,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And what Jared Golf got has a lot I think
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of impact on Trevor Lawrence and other quarterbacks
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: around the league. We'll get to that in just a
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: little bit by week Week twelve and then Week thirteen
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: against the Texans, and that as that is Thanksgiving weekend
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: at home. That's a real positive there where we get
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to spend Thanksgiving that home and then have a home
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: game that weekend. I mean, and that's that's a big game.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, folks, if you if you want to talk
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: about a big game like one of those must see games,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the Houston Texans coming to Jacksonville Thanksgiving weekend? Are you
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: kidding me? Okay, if you've got family rolling in, get
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: your tickets now for that one, because that's gonna be
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a marvelous game. Until now,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com s chick round. He's got three legitimate
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: wide receivers, does I mean? I mean, I'm talking three
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: legit as long as one of them can maintain his focus,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: which will be interesting.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: And then at the Titans, which is just Nashville right
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: week fourteen. Here's the thing about them, what are they doing?
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: You don't know, you don't know. I'm not a fan
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: of what they're doing in Nashville, which is good for
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: this team. They drafted a defensive t ac Devandre Sweat,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: who's overweight, out of shape and has issues. Okay, what
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: round did they pick him? And it was high and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: they drafted have been around that. You just go, no,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: you can't take that kind of a risk. And he's
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: not that type of player. But I'm sitting here in
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the back of mine, I'm going, what are you doing?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: And then I'm thinking that's good though, because it's in
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: a division. Yeah, go ahead, good, yeah, go ahead and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: screw it up, Go ahead, screw it up. Week fifteen,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the Jets come to town. We'll see what Aaron Rodgers
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: is doing by that time of year and what the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: team has even be walking I don't know. And then
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: week sixteen, weekend before he by the way, what was
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: he thirty forty? Is he forty forty? Yet he's like
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: thirty eight. He's got to be I mean pushing forty, right,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: And then we may get Gardner Minshew the week after
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. How about that? From Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: And then yeah at the Raiders the weekend before Christmas,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: So from Aaron Rodgers to potentially Gardner Minshew. Wow. And
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: then the Titans at home week seventeen, and then at
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the Colts week eighteen to close it up before the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: last six in the division, all six in the AFC,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and remember last year it was a three way race
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and with what three teams? Was it the Jags and
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: then the two opponents that you have to finish the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: season out. So do you don't think that the league
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: identified what happened last year and said, hey, let's go
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: ahead and get that same kind of exciting finish in
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: that division to happen again. I mean, I think that's it.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I like that schedule. JP. I'm totally on the opposite
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: side of the fence of you. Well, I didn't say
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I never said I didn't like it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I said there are some difficult stretches, especially early. I
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: think you said he didn't like it. It's not what
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I was trying to soften your stands a little, not
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: at all now. I mean, those can be tough stretches,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Am I not wrong? It's the NFL, JP, They're all
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: tough stretches. I get that. Yeah, but three or four
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: in the row to start, I think it's a question.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Here's a trivia question for not even unless we're just
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: a road to you all of a sudden, where you
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: know superstars in the room. I want to get your thought, okay,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: because you know a lot of times you go and
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you look at the schedule and you go, yeah, this
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: team is really going to be tough because they were
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: tough last year. Or hey, they just got this guy
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: in free agency at quarterback or this guy in free
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: agency at this position is going to make them a
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: tough opponent. Give me one opponent that you think is
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: going to be surprisingly good this year that the Jaguars
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: will face like a team that most people aren't expecting
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: to be good. The Lions are not a surprise anymore. No,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: they're going to be good. No, you know, Texans, we
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: think they're good. It was one year, right, we'll find
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: out they got good players, you know. The Uh yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I mean there's the Packers. The Packers are going to
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: be good. Man, the Packers are going to be good.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be really interesting. And uh,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I think you got to have a good quarterback or
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: a young quarterback that's up and coming to be able
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to be one of those teams you could surprise team.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: And Jordan Love, I think is one of those guys
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: that could become that. When they went to Detroit and
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: beat them last year, Can Raiders be a team like that?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew what's the other guy's name? Another quarterback? He's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: so good. I can't even remember his name. No common right,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: going to say Aiden Hutchinson, It's not it's not him.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: He's in Detroit. You got a point. And let's see
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: what Anthony Richardson does with the Colts. He'll be back,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: will he be healthy? And I think that that is
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: going to be the biggest wild card this year for
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars as far as opponents go. Could they
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: be a surprisingly good team? Joe Flacco's the backup now.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, I'm sure is going to help him along.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: But can he stay healthy? Number one? Because he didn't
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: last year? Can he develop into a quarterback? Because right
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: now he's an athlete that has a big arm. But
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: do you know what zip code it's going to? And
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: does he know what time it needs to get to
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: that zip code? I don't know, But that to me,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that's the biggest wild card this year about the Jaguar schedule.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: What will the Colts be? I can tell you this.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be pretty good on defense, you know, but
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: they didn't go out there and add a ton of
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: free inches. The law to guy that they got in
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the draft. Gus Bradley's gonna love him. What's your guy?
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I loved him, Gus Bradley's gonna love him too. Guarantee
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: you that let's come back and we'll keep it real
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: with the quarterback contract conversation. Is this the right time?
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing that song and Joe can probably help me
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: out here. Money money, money, money, money from Philly. Are
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: you sure about that? Yes? So I thought there was
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: more than just them that did that. Well, they did
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: that one, and that's the one. I mean, that's the Okay, Yeah,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: that's good. That's good. You're you're up on your music.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Come on, it's your schedule though. Oh wow, Okay, we
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: had to pick wins and losses. I will do that
• 30:16
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• 30:26
  Speaker 7: I don't need to be as physical as you want,
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: but all you have to execute on everyone's gonna be
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: on the same page. Some of the best offensive lines
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: I've seen have been physical, yes, but they've all worked
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: in unison together, so it'll all be kind of working
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: as I know, one heart beats kind of thrown around
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: a bit, but all having the same one heart beats
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: and kind of working together. And that's what the great
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: thing about it to you is again to figure out
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: how to be up.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: That's Mitch Morse, Jaguars center, free agent signing. Welcome back,
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• 31:01
  Speaker 1: what he has to offer, year number ten in the NFL.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: J P Shadwick, Jeff Logaman, he's going to be your
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: starting center. What do you mean? You want to see?
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: What he asked? Just a tenth your player? Like, what
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: you know? What kind of player is he? Let's see.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a good, solid veteran player. He'll be
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: an upgrade. Let's see it. I mean, that's the whole expectation.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: That's why you went and signed him in free agency,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: which is why I asked him about the physical Like
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the question I had for him there was, you know,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: when do you realize that the physicality is at a
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: level you guys know it can be now. You don't
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: know until the season. Obviously you don't know now because
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: and that was his answer, we don't, we won't know
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: until later. Now is when you set the foundation for that. Well,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I will say that Mitch Morse is a a very
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: good center and a lot of people say, well, you know, okay,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: we got to get more physical at that position, you know,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: make an upgrade from Luke Fortner. Mitch Morse is a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: is a good player. He's not Jason Kelsey. Okay that
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: He's got this guy that can road grade you and
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: and can lower the pads and drive you off the ball.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: He's one of the all time great centers too, feel doubt.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's fantastic. Morris is more of a you know,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: getting your way tight and but he doesn't get He's
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: not a guy that's going to root you down two
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: yards off the ball. That's just not his style. You're
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: not doing the Philadelphia you know, No, that's stuff. But
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I think he's definitely gonna upgrade the position. And I
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: know that you know that he's not going to be
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: on his rear end three yards in the backfield. So
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I know that they keep, you know, using this language
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: that this is a competition, which look, it always is.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: There's no depth chart right now, Well, there's always competition,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: you know, And and they're almost when they talk about
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that position, they want to mention Mitch, and then they
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: feel obligated to mention Luke as well. I mean, look,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Mitch was brought in here for a reason. I mean, okay,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: so let's just say that he's going to be the guy.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: The reason you got him is because Luke didn't have
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the year that you wanted to have. And look, I'm
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: not trying to criticize Luke. He just got to take
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: his competition. He always has a chance to win that
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: job back. Anybody always has competition, Okay, but you don't
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: need to keep saying well Mitch and then Luke in
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the same breath. And Mitch is your guy right now.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Brought him in for a reason. He's your starter, okay,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and then until Luke can be better than him and
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: show that he's better than him, then Mitch's your guy.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: That's just me talking like I think he's going to
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: be good for this team, good for this unit, the
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: little leadership on that offensive line, sheriff, I think it's
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: a good one. The Sheriff's got to get back to
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: playing well, and I think that there's gonna be competition
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: for that for him as well. I got to stay
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: healthy too, all these guys, right, Somebody well, look, these
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: guys are in their tenth year, okay, and young competition
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: is the best thing on the planet, even for a
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: guy in his tenth year. You know, you can't sit
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: there and say, well, you know, hey, look here's your job.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: You know, here's your lunch Paale I have a great day.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: You're the man. No, no, you gotta you got Luke Fortner.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I look here, here's your lunch pail. It's got some
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: extra stuff in there. So let's go. Okay, get to work.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask what's in there, but okay, let's
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: vite him in's not for things that he's gonna get
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: in trouble. And then uh, the same thing goes at
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: the right guard. Okay, Cooper last year was doing some
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: good things in training camp and then he had the knee. Okay,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Cooper Hodges, let's go. He actually spoke as well, so
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: that conversation on Jaguars dot Com, you know, fighting through everything,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: was trying to come back, then had to have surgery
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: and had a setbacks, and some some guys that have
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: had that ended up having to go that route. And
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: he'll be I think he'll be complete. He seems like
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: he's out there. Now let's go, you know, push Brandon
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Sheriff take the job if you can. That's what that's
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: what competition is. You know, it's time for keeping it real.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Presented by insert sponsor here, it's available. Quarterback contract conversation
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. The Jags can negotiate. They have been talking
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: to each other representatives of Lawrence and the Jaguars representatives
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: throughout this offseason. Is no secret. Both sides have said
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: they have talked about things. This is the first offseason
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: they can negotiate if they were to get something done now.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: In theory, it's a future's bet that he's the guy
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: for the long term because he hasn't statistically put up
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: year over year massive numbers. Right. No, But as an organization,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars certainly feel that he is the franchise quarterback,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: not now, that of the future. And the price is
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: only going to go up, correct, So you got to
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: do it now, right, Well, you'd like to. There's a
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: lot of faith I think that you have to have
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: when you do contracts for for pretty much a lot
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: of the guys. Some some of the contracts that you
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: give to guys in the NFL, you're they're proven it,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: they've got evidence, and here's the production, here's the contract.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Here's where he falls. Some guys you're trying to predict
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: where they're going to be. I think Trevor falls a
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: little bit in that category. Can he be a franchise
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: guy year in and year out leading this team to
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the playoffs? Didn't last year? Had some injuries that obviously
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: set him back a little bit. But to answer your question, yes,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I think you've got to You got to look at
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: doing the contract now because the longer you wait, the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: more expensive it's gonna get. I believe there are plenty
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: of signs there that for that Trevor is your guy.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I feel confident that he's that guy now. Does he
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: need to get better? Yes, I'm not saying that he's
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: arrived and he's that guy now, But I believe that
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: he can be one of those elite quarterbacks in this league.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: But he's not there yet. So where's that number fall?
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of the debate, you know, when you're
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: getting to that contract negotiation. Okay, well, if we believe
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: he's a franchise guy, franchise guys, you know there's numbers
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: up here getting what mid fifties. Right, Okay, there what
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: it is? Yeah, you're probably sitting there thinking, well, you
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: know he's right here performance wise, but we believe he
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: can get here. Well, are we paying him where he's
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: at here? Or are we paying him based on where
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: believe we believe he can be? And I think the
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: agents are saying we believe yeah, sure, this is where
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: he needs to be. You know, the team's going, I'm
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: sure they're being very fair, but at the same token
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: going you know, well he's right here right now, you know,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: and you know we'd like to see him get here,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: but this is where he's at right now. So can
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: we do it for this number? The agent's going on,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: if you believe he's gonna be here, this is where
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: we got to pay him at. Well, this is where
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and then negotiation continues. Right, it's one playoff game. It's
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: a very complicated negotiation. I don't, I don't. This is
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: this is not a normal deal, you know, because here,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: here's what can happen if it's structured improperly and all
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: of a sudden things don't work. And I'm not saying
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: that that's the expectation. I mean, it's reality, right, But
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: the reality is if something doesn't work, then now you're
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: looking at a situation that you can't get out from underneath.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Of that's right, if it works out, then and he's underpaid.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: And this is the other thing to consider. It's like
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes is vastly underpaid right now. So
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: the chiefs got to do something to adjust his contract,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: and the smart teams will do something like that to
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: where you adjust a guy that's an elite guy. He
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: he's underpaid, and you know, let's go ahead and bump
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: him up. So but it's a very complicated situation that's
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: old on. You're telling Patrick Mahomes signed a ten year
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: deal for four hundred and fifty million dollars. Yeah, he's
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: underpaid forty five on average forty five a year, ten million.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: If it's ten year, four hundred million JP, that's a
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: forty million a year average forty five million a year.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: So it's four hundred and fifty Yeah, ten years, four
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollar contract. Forty five million what
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: a Jared Golf just signed his contract probably more than that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it was like fifty million, right, Okay,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: So let's do the math and let's look at the hardware. Yeah,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, is Patrick Mahomes not the best quarterback in
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: the now? He hits a league, absolutely, and he's signed
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: this deal after how many Super Bowls? Second one or
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the first one? I can't remember. Should anybody make more
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: money than Patrick Mahomes? I mean in theory no, no,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: in reality, no, they made the deal.
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: No.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I get it at a time
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: where I was like, you know what I got you? Well,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: like you're in security team. I remember when that deal
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: was done, there were a lot of people that looked
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: at that deal and said, why did he do that? Because,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, the people that kind of understand the economics
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: of the game were saying, he did a deal that
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: was very team friendly for the long term security. But
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like the next year
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: or two years later, all a sudden, he's underpaid. So
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: you got one hundred and forty million guaranteed dollars. Did
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: de Sean Watson get two hundred and forty million that?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Now that is a totally different sce years two hundred
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and forty men. Well, I'm just saying I was out there. Yeah, yeah,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: see that's right. There hasn't been a contract that's been
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: done since then that's been anywhere even near that, So
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: there's somewhere that. Yeah, and we'll see what you know.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I mean the number for Trevor though, to get back
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: to Trevor, it's got to be over fifty. It's got
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: to be somewhere in the average of the fifty range somewhere,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: which what was the original purchase price of the franchise? Right?
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: If you want to go to comparisons, I mean you
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: compare the purchase price of the Jacksonville Jaguars franchise expansion
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: franchise for a Wayne Weaver and his partners. I want
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: to say it was like one hundred and sixty two
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: million or something like that in that range or two
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: hundred and something million, two hundred and four million dollars,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: two hundred and four million dollars. So Trevors for years
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: is probably going to earn more than the franchise original
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: purchase price. Let's come back in a moment. You think
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: you gets done before the season last though, well, because
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: it's so complicated, I would be surprised. But I hope
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: it does. I really do. I hope it does. Back
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: in the mine, we'll take a look at some Microsoft
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: questions and clothes. It out as Jaguars Happy Hour, brought
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• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Taste history, make history. It's a hard business and you're
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: gonna be right.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be wrong every season. We are responsible for
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: evaluating every single player.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: You have to take a hard look at at at
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: the good and lad You know.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: You're always looking for leaders, You're always looking for winners.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: Does this guy make us faster, doesn't make us tougher,
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: doesn't make us a smarter football teams.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Each person takes the information that they've had available to
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: them and they come with the people. If you're working
• 42:51
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• 42:53
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• 42:55
  Speaker 1: It's a pressure field situation. If you're not taking a
• 42:58
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• 43:02
  Speaker 5: You know you're a scout for football, but you're also
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: scouting a person.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Draft in our super Bowl right the boards starting to
• 43:11
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• 43:12
  Speaker 3: It's not I don't think it's health.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: You know some things. Just finding the day's partners definitely better.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: You can't win every trade.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: It is always about the points that.
• 43:22
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• 43:30
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• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's forty minutes on TV. I mean, is
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: it now TV or do you say something else? It's
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: must wash because I mean so many you don't watch
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: it on TV a lot of time. Yeah, you can
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: watch it on your phone, your tablet. I mean you
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: can like scream it to your TV, like you can,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: you know, screen mirror to your TV. That if I
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: actually know how to do that, Wow, believe it or
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: imagine that. Yeah, it don't hurt yourself. Something that I've learned.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I learned that in the last year. James, congratulations taking
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: a big step up. That's technology wise. Hey, one final
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: thought about before we get to the questions of the day,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the Trevor Lawrence Steele, if it is to come down,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: if it is for fifty million, whatever it is. At
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: this point, you thought it was scrutinized already, just wait right,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the spotlight gets really bright. Yeah, yeah, the uh and
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: the level of scrutiny goes up because the expectations that
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: are attached with a big contract will make everybody look
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: at it differently. And that's just the way it is.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's part of the job description. When you
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: look at, Okay, starting quarterback for an NFL team that
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: has a very lucrative contract, that's what comes with it.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: You're going to have a higher level of scrutiny from
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: the outside from within, and you will also have a
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: higher level of hands reaching out to try to get
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: some of that money that you're making. And that's something
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: that you've got to be prepared for and you've got
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: that's why, that's why every team looks at franchise quarterbacks
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: and they do so much due diligence in vetting guys
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: to find out if they're going to be draftable type
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: of players at that position, especially and really all of
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: them because the significant significant amount of money that they're
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: going to be investing in them, because you got you
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: got to have the right guy. You've got to have
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: the right guy. You've got to have the right physical
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and mental makeup. And I can tell you this about
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Trevor don't. I don't worry one iota about his mental
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: makeup in this whole situation. Now, I don't worry a bit.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I think he's very special in that regard. Let's get
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: some Microsoft questions and we put out the cat signal
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: on social media earlier today. Here's the best we've come
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: up with at Ratus Johansson. Do we know where the
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Jags would play home games during the stadium project? Well,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: you know obviously right now. The Jaguars in the city
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: presented a stadium agreement to the city council a couple
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Now more on the deal at Jacksonville
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: dot gov. There is no deal in place yet. They've
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: got to get the vote through the city council and
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: then through the owners in the NFL. That's all down
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the line. Then they would figure that out. But I
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: think the process has started. I mean they're researching and
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: looking at potential locations, and everything we've seen reported is
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Orlando or Gainsville. Yeah, I don't, yeah, that's all public reporter.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: There's a surprise horse in that race, I don't know. Yeah,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: so we'll see. But the more horses in the race
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the better for the Jaguars. Also, there are community huddles
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: still left on the schedule, so there are two left
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: May twenty ninths Sandalwood High School and thirtieth West Side
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: High School out on Firestone Road, so you can go
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: ask questions, show support whatever you prefer of all the
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: leaders involved on both the city side and the Jaguar side.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: No RSVP required. Both are from six thirty to eight
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: o'clock pm A twenty ninth and thirtieth One more question
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: at coach t Miller, what do you do in the
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: defensive back room? Depth chart wise who starts and who
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: plays where? So give us your start in a Nickel
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: defense logs if you can give us your starting five
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: right now? Tyson Campbell, Darby, Darby's at court, Antonio Johnson,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Nicol No, I tell you what I'm gonna because you
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: know you gotta get a draft picked up. I'm gonna
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: put Jarion Jones in at Nickel. I'm gonna put Antonio
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Johnson in at one safety and then Cisco in at
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the other. And then if we're gonna play dime, I'm
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: gonna bring Winger down. You don't think Winger could start? No,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I think you can start. I think, look if you
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: look at Andrew Winger from a production standpoint, his his
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: level of production is fantastic, fantastic. I mean I'm talking
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: not just special teams wise, I'm talking defense. When a
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: guy's on the field, he makes plays and he brings leadership.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: That's what. That's a room that is very deep. Your
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: safety room, really deep. Even though you said goodbye to
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: one of them already. Daniel Thomas is a good football player.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: DT sure is good football play great on special teams too,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: great on special teams. Can outstanding gunner can play also
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: safety if he were to have to need to be
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: on the field at that position. So very deep position,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and you've got some guys with some flexibility. So there
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: you have. Microsoft questions are in for the week. Jaguars
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: are back on the practice field Tuesday, after the Memorial
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Day holiday Monday, and we'll be out there. Media will
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: be out there on Tuesday to get a good look.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: You can be back for that. I will be all right.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Just a big thank you to to those that served
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: yes coming up on Monday a very special day for
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: them and it's well deserved. Jeff Logan, nice to see
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: you again. We don't have a show next week, by
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: the way, so we'll be back in two weeks. Yeah,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: we'll be back in two weeks. What what are we
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: gonna do then next Thursday at four o'clock. Well, I'm
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be working doing other things. We've got other stuff
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: going on here that we can't do a show. But
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: you can do whatever the heck you want, and I'll
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: come and hang out with you. Yeah, we'll put you on.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Come on lives, come on in now. We need you, man,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: we gotta have you. You need you need my emotional support.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: We gotta have it. We wanna be your emotional support dog.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: That's Jeff Logoman. I'm JP Shadwick. Thanks to Joe Fortunato,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: mister Alaska, he's back in town. Let's go get an
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Anastasia Island. I p A. Sounds good to meet. Thanks
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: to Brent Reeb as well. Thanks to you for listening
• 49:55
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