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- 0:00What really lies ahead for believers in Christ?
- 0:02I mean, what's the ultimate goal of our salvation?
- 0:04And can we be certain we'll reach it?
- 0:07It's something many people wonder about.
- 0:09It really is. These are big questions about
- 0:11our future in faith. Welcome to Reformed thinking.
- 0:15Today we're opening up, well, a treasure chest of insight,
- 0:17really, considering the end goals of faith.
- 0:20We're diving into two crucial doctrines that shed light on the
- 0:23completion of salvation for every believer.
- 0:26That's right. We're going to look at
- 0:27perseverance first, which is all about how God enables believers
- 0:31to continue in faith, and then we'll shift our focus to
- 0:34glorification, that astounding perfection that awaits us.
- 0:38Our mission for you in this deep dive.
- 0:41By the end, we hope you'll grasp the divine certainty God offers
- 0:44for our eternal walk, understand the magnificent future God has
- 0:48planned for us, and feel a strength and hope in what's to
- 0:50come. So let's unpack this.
- 0:53Sounds good. You know, the completion of our
- 0:55Christian experience both here and now and into eternity.
- 0:58It really does revolve around these two core ideas.
- 1:01We're talking about the believer being kept by God's steady
- 1:04grace, you know, and and able to successfully handle trials and
- 1:08temptations, staying true to the Lord right up until their very
- 1:11last breath. That's perseverance.
- 1:14And then there's the life beyond, which isn't just like a
- 1:17continuation of how things are now, but a complete perfection
- 1:21of it. Every limitation we feel, every
- 1:24stain of sin, every struggle, it'll all be gone.
- 1:27That's glorification. So let's start with
- 1:29perseverance. This doctrine gets right to a
- 1:32fundamental question, doesn't it, For anyone who's put their
- 1:35faith in Christ. If someone genuinely comes to
- 1:37faith, if they're regenerated, given new spiritual life,
- 1:40justified, declared righteous, adopted into God's family,
- 1:44united with Christ, will they always stay in that
- 1:46relationship? Yeah.
- 1:47Will a person who truly becomes a Christian always remain 1?
- 1:51And if the answer is yes, well, what's the basis for that claim?
- 1:53It seems extraordinary. It really does, and this point
- 1:56has huge practical significance for how we actually live out our
- 1:59faith day-to-day. Well, absolutely.
- 2:00Just imagine the the psychological and spiritual
- 2:04effect if the security of your salvation was always in doubt.
- 2:08Believers might live with this constant nagging anxiety, always
- 2:12wondering, have I done enough? Am I good enough?
- 2:15Could I somehow mess this up and lose everything?
- 2:18That kind of insecurity could easily pull focus from what
- 2:22we're supposed to be doing right.
- 2:24Loving God, loving our neighbor, serving, sharing the gospel.
- 2:28Definitely. But then think about the other
- 2:30side of the coin. If salvation was absolutely
- 2:33secure, just sort of a passive preservation no matter what we
- 2:35did, well, that could risk leading to a kind of spiritual
- 2:39laziness, couldn't it? Yeah, you might think, well, if
- 2:41I can't lose it, why put in the effort to be holy?
- 2:44It could lead to a careless attitude towards living a
- 2:46Christian life. So understand what Scripture
- 2:49actually teaches about the security of the believer isn't
- 2:52just some academic exercise, it really shapes our daily walk.
- 2:56It's quite interesting though that both the Calvinist and
- 2:58Armenian views, even with their big differences on this specific
- 3:01doctrine, they actually share some foundational common ground.
- 3:04That's true, both sides agree. God is mighty, totally faithful,
- 3:08and completely capable of keeping His promises.
- 3:11And both usually agree that salvation isn't earned or kept
- 3:14by human works. It's a gift of grace.
- 3:16Right. And they both acknowledge the
- 3:18Holy Spirit is actively working in all believers.
- 3:21There's also agreement that the salvation God provides is
- 3:24complete in its provision. It's a full rescue package.
- 3:27And crucially, both positions affirm that believers can know
- 3:31right now that they possess salvation.
- 3:35Neither side wants people living in constant doubt.
- 3:38OK, so those common points are pretty fundamental.
- 3:40God is sovereign. Salvation is by grace.
- 3:43The Spirit works in US. Yes, they form a kind of shared
- 3:45bedrock, but it's how they understand the believers lasting
- 3:48relationship with that salvation where the paths really diverge.
- 3:52So let's turn our focus now to the Calvinist view on
- 3:54perseverance. How is that typically stated?
- 3:57Well, it's usually stated with real clarity and conviction.
- 4:00The idea is those whom God has truly accepted, eventually
- 4:04called and set apart by His Spirit cannot totally or finally
- 4:07fall away from a state of grace. OK, cannot totally or finally
- 4:10fall away. Right.
- 4:12Instead, they will certainly persist to the very end and
- 4:15without fail be eternally saved. And this view is seen as fitting
- 4:19tightly with the doctrine of election correct?
- 4:21Yes, it's understood to align perfectly.
- 4:24If God sovereignly chooses individuals for eternal life
- 4:27before time began, then it seems logical that their salvation
- 4:30must be certain. Because if they could lose that
- 4:33salvation, it would imply God's choice didn't fully achieve its
- 4:36aim, that his purpose could somehow be, well, frustrated.
- 4:40That's the argument. If God unconditionally chooses
- 4:44people for eternal life and his Spirit then effectively applies
- 4:47redemption to them, meaning it always achieves its intended
- 4:50result, then the conclusion seems unavoidable.
- 4:53These chosen people will be saved and will stay saved.
- 4:56It ensures God's will is always accomplished.
- 4:58And this isn't just argued from theological consistency, is it?
- 5:01There's quite a bit of biblical support cited for the
- 5:04indestructible nature of the salvation God gives.
- 5:06Oh yes. Take first Peter 1 verses 3 to 5
- 5:09for example. Peter talks about believers
- 5:11receiving a new birth into a living hope and an inheritance
- 5:15that can never perish, spoil or fade.
- 5:17An inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade.
- 5:21That's striking language. It is, and he adds it's kept in
- 5:24heaven for us, and we are shielded by God's ability
- 5:27through faith until that final salvation is revealed.
- 5:31When Peter calls this inheritance imperishable,
- 5:33undefiled and unfading, he's not just using poetic words.
- 5:37He's drawing a contrast, maybe with earthly things.
- 5:39Exactly. He's drawing a sharp contrast
- 5:41with earthly inheritances that always decay or get corrupted or
- 5:45can be lost or stolen. The key insight here is the
- 5:48inherent nature of this divine gift.
- 5:50It's fundamentally different. It's secured not by our shaky
- 5:53grip, but by God's own steady character and his strength.
- 5:57That's a comforting thought. And the persistence and sheer
- 5:59strength of Divine Love offer more support.
- 6:02Think about Romans 8 verses 31 to 39, especially those last
- 6:06couple verses 38 and 39. Where Paul lists all those
- 6:09things that can't separate us from God's love.
- 6:11Yes, with that breathtaking certainty, neither death nor
- 6:15life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the
- 6:18future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth or anything
- 6:22else in all creation can separate us from God's love in
- 6:25Christ Jesus our Lord. It's an incredible list.
- 6:27And it's not just about God's initial acceptance.
- 6:30It points to his continuous activity in the believer's life.
- 6:33Christ doesn't just give us eternal life and then say, OK,
- 6:36good luck keeping it. He actively maintains the
- 6:39relationship. That thought really does bring a
- 6:41lot of comfort. Philippians 1.6 echoes this too
- 6:44right? Saying God, who began a good
- 6:47work in you, will carry it on to completion until the day of
- 6:50Christ Jesus. Precisely.
- 6:52It highlights God's ongoing dedication to perfecting what He
- 6:55started in us. It stresses His faithfulness and
- 6:57seeing His work through all the way to the end.
- 7:00It goes deeper too, doesn't it? Thinking about Christ's role
- 7:03now. Yes, Hebrews 7.25 tells us that
- 7:06Christ makes intercession for us constantly.
- 7:08He's always praying for us, and since Jesus himself said the
- 7:11Father always hears his prayers, these continuous intercessions
- 7:14for believers are effective. So we have an advocate in heaven
- 7:17constantly praying for our perseverance.
- 7:19We do, and it's not just Christ. Romans 8.26 adds that the Holy
- 7:23Spirit also intercedes for believers, even when we don't
- 7:27know how or what to pray for ourselves.
- 7:29So there's this constant, potent divine prayer support system
- 7:33holding us up. Wow.
- 7:35So beyond divine intercession, there's also the assurance of
- 7:38God's help in overcoming obstacles, isn't there?
- 7:40Yes, his provision. Romans 14.4 says God enables His
- 7:44servants to stand firm even when facing judgement.
- 7:47At 1st Corinthians 10.13 gives that very clear promise.
- 7:51The one about temptation. That's the one.
- 7:53No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to
- 7:56mankind, and God is faithful. He will not let you be tempted
- 7:59beyond what you can bear, but when you are tempted, He will
- 8:02also provide a way out so that you can endure it.
- 8:05So that passage assures us divine help is always there, not
- 8:08just to avoid temptation, but to actually cope with it and endure
- 8:12through it. Right.
- 8:13These are active provisions that enable us to persist.
- 8:15But for many holding the Calvinist view, the greatest
- 8:17encouragement comes from the direct promises of the Lord
- 8:20Himself about his keeping work. Like John chapter 10.
- 8:23John 10/22, 7:30 is a bedrock passage.
- 8:27Jesus declares My sheep listen to my voice.
- 8:29I know them and they follow me. I give them eternal life and
- 8:32they shall never perish. No one will snatch them out of
- 8:35my hand. My Father who has given them to
- 8:37me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of my
- 8:40Father's hand. I and the Father are one.
- 8:42And that phrase they shall never perish.
- 8:45You mentioned the Greek there is particularly strong.
- 8:47It is. It uses what's called a double
- 8:49negative in Greek, who may It's not just a simple no, it's the
- 8:53strongest possible way to negate something in Greek.
- 8:55It effectively says absolutely, under no circumstances will they
- 8:59ever perish. It leaves zero room for doubt
- 9:01about the security of his sheep. That's incredibly definite, and
- 9:05Paul seems to echo that conviction.
- 9:07See Kennedy 1.12. He does.
- 9:09He expresses his personal confidence.
- 9:11I know whom I have believed and am convinced that he is able to
- 9:14guard what I have entrusted to him until that day.
- 9:17It speaks to Paul's own robust confidence in God's ability to
- 9:20keep his own safe. Many who hold this view also
- 9:23connected to other core doctrines, right to kind of
- 9:26bolster the argument for perseverance.
- 9:28That's right. Take the doctrine of union with
- 9:30Christ. If believers are truly joined
- 9:33with Christ, like branches to a vine, and his life genuinely
- 9:37flows through them, as John 15 suggests, then that connection
- 9:41is seen as unbreakable. The thinking being it's
- 9:43impossible for a real believer to be sort of cut off from
- 9:47Christ's body. That would frustrate God's
- 9:49purpose. That's the idea, and the
- 9:50doctrine of the new birth or regeneration is another one.
- 9:53First, John 3.9 says no one who is born of God will continue to
- 9:57sin because God's seed remains in him.
- 9:59They cannot go on sinning because they have been born of
- 10:02God. Meaning the Holy Spirit imparts
- 10:04a new nature. Yes, and the reasoning goes if
- 10:07salvation could be lost then regeneration would have to be
- 10:10reversible somehow, which is considered impossible.
- 10:13Eternal life is, well, eternal by definition.
- 10:16Can spiritual death happen to someone?
- 10:17The Holy Spirit lives in someone already give an eternal life.
- 10:20For those holding this few, it's seen as an absolute
- 10:23impossibility. And finally, the idea of
- 10:25assurance of salvation also supports perseverance.
- 10:28It does seem to passings like Hebrews 6.1110.222, Peter 1.10,
- 10:33and especially first John 5.13 which is explicitly I write
- 10:37these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God,
- 10:40so that you may know that you have eternal life.
- 10:43They all point to the ability of believers to have a firm
- 10:46conviction about their salvation.
- 10:48So the very possibility of having that deep, lasting
- 10:51assurance suggests that salvation must be secure.
- 10:54Why would God offer that kind of certainty if it could just be
- 10:58taken away? That's the question posed.
- 11:00It seems inconsistent. OK, that presents a really
- 11:03strong case for the certainty of salvation.
- 11:05But if that's the whole picture, why do so many other passages
- 11:08seem to warn people against falling away?
- 11:11This is where the Armenian viewpoint comes in, offering a
- 11:13significant counter argument. It's really necessary.
- 11:16We grapple with their scriptural basis too.
- 11:18Absolutely. Absolutely.
- 11:19The core statement of the Armenian view on perseverance is
- 11:21basically that it is possible for believers to fall away from
- 11:25their faith and as a result lose their salvation.
- 11:28And this perspective relies heavily on Scripture passages
- 11:31that seem to set conditions for salvation, and also on observed
- 11:34experiences of people who appear to abandon their faith.
- 11:37That's right, Armenians often point to various biblical
- 11:40warnings against apostasy, arguing these warnings wouldn't
- 11:44make sense if a genuine believer simply couldn't fall away.
- 11:47Like in Matthew 24. Yes, Matthew 24.314 Jesus warned
- 11:51his disciples about being LED astray and specifically stated
- 11:55that the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
- 11:58For Armenians, this implies that not persisting could lead to
- 12:01losing salvation. The warning feels like a real
- 12:04possibility. And Paul in Colossians one also
- 12:07seems to suggest condition verses 2123 where he says
- 12:10reconciliation applies if you continue in your faith
- 12:13established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in
- 12:16the gospel. That if is seen as a genuine
- 12:19condition, and 1st Corinthians 10.12 is another one.
- 12:22So if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don't
- 12:25fall. It's presented as a direct
- 12:27caution against overconfidence, implying a real potential for
- 12:31spiritual collapse. The writer to the Hebrews seems
- 12:34particularly focused on this danger, too.
- 12:36Very much so. Hebrews 2.1 says we must pay the
- 12:39most careful attention so that we do not drift away.
- 12:42And Hebrews 3.1 to the 14 warns, See to it that none of you has a
- 12:47sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God.
- 12:51Armenians find it hard to understand why such serious
- 12:54cautions would be given if a believer, once saved, simply
- 12:57cannot fall away. For them, these warnings
- 13:00highlight a real spiritual danger.
- 13:01Armenians also point to verses that directly exhort believers
- 13:05to continue in faith, suggesting that ongoing effort from the
- 13:08believer is needed for salvation to be fully realized.
- 13:11Right. Hebrews 6.1112, for instance,
- 13:14encourages believers to show this same diligence to the very
- 13:17end so that what you hope for may be fully realized, and tells
- 13:20them not to become lazy. This is understood to show that
- 13:22continued effort and diligence are required.
- 13:24And Pauls own words in First Corinthians 9.27 where he talks
- 13:28about disciplining his body. Yes, where he says he makes it
- 13:31his slave, so that after I have preached to others, I myself
- 13:35will not be disqualified for the prize.
- 13:38Armenians see this as evidence that even Paul, an apostle,
- 13:41thought it was possible he could lose salvation if he stopped his
- 13:44act of spiritual striving. It suggests a real need for
- 13:47continued personal effort and watchfulness.
- 13:49OK, so warnings and exhortations are key points, but a central
- 13:53part of the Armenian argument comes from passages they
- 13:56interpret as directly teaching that people do fall away, right?
- 14:00Like Hebrew 6. Hebrew 6.4 to 6 is definitely a
- 14:03pivotal passage for the Armenian view.
- 14:05It describes people who have once been enlightened, who have
- 14:09tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared the Holy Spirit, who
- 14:12have tasted the goodness of the Word of God and the powers of
- 14:14the coming age, and yet have fallen away.
- 14:17And the passage then says it's impossible to be brought back to
- 14:20repentance. Right.
- 14:22Armenians generally interpret this as describing genuinely
- 14:25saved people who experience these deep spiritual realities,
- 14:28then willfully turned away and are now beyond recovery.
- 14:32It seems like very clear description of losing salvation.
- 14:35And Hebrews 10.2627 is another one often cited.
- 14:39Yes, it states that if we deliberately keep on sinning
- 14:42after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no
- 14:45sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of
- 14:49judgement. Our minions see these as clear
- 14:52statements about people who had a genuine experience of
- 14:54salvation but then willfully left it through persistent sin.
- 14:58They argue these individuals can't regain it and face only
- 15:01judgement. They find it difficult to square
- 15:03these strong statements with a doctrine of absolute
- 15:07perseverance. Beyond these teaching passages,
- 15:09Armenians also look at specific examples in the Bible.
- 15:12Individuals, they believe we're true believers but then fell
- 15:15away. King Saul is a primary example
- 15:17from the Old Testament. Chosen, anointed king, received
- 15:19the spirit that then became disobedient, was rejected by God
- 15:23and had a tragic end, even resorting to witchcraft and
- 15:25dying in battle. And in the New Testament, Judas
- 15:28Iscarios often brought up. Yes, Armenians often find it
- 15:31unlikely that Jesus would choose an unbeliever as one of the 12
- 15:35intimate disciples or that he misjudged Judas character.
- 15:39So, they conclude Judas probably was a believer when chosen and
- 15:43initially walked with Christ, but then betrayed him and ended
- 15:46his life tragically without repentance, showing permanent
- 15:49apostasy. Are there other New Testament
- 15:51figures mentioned? Several Ananias and Sapphira in
- 15:54Acts 5 struck dead after lying to the Holy Spirit.
- 15:57Imanias and Alexander and First Timothy one who suffered
- 16:00shipwrecked with in regard to their faith.
- 16:02How many is in Philetus in Second Timothy 2 whose teachings
- 16:05spread like gangrene, and Demas in Second Timothy 4 who
- 16:08apparently love this present world and deserted Paul?
- 16:11So the Armenian view is that these look like clear examples
- 16:14of true believers who left the faith.
- 16:15Yes, they often argue that only a most contrived line of
- 16:19reasoning, as one source puts it, can explain away the clear
- 16:22impression that these were genuine believers who later
- 16:25abandoned their faith. They might also point to
- 16:27historical or even contemporary examples of people who seem
- 16:30truly regenerate but later renounce Christianity.
- 16:33And finally, Armenians raise a practical objection regarding
- 16:36human freedom. That's a significant point for
- 16:38them. They argue that if salvation is
- 16:40absolutely certain and believers cannot choose apostasy, then are
- 16:44they really free moral agents? Scripture seems to depict humans
- 16:48as free, constantly urging them to choose God to obey, holding
- 16:53them accountable, all implying a real capacity for choice,
- 16:56including potentially the choice to turn away.
- 16:59OK. So we have two distinct
- 17:01positions, both making arguments from Scripture, both wrestling
- 17:04with real concerns. One side stresses God's
- 17:07sovereign ability and faithfulness, the other
- 17:09highlights human responsibility and the reality of those
- 17:11warnings. Is there a way to sort of
- 17:14reconcile these seemingly opposing views?
- 17:16Let's look at a proposed resolution now, OK?
- 17:19This resolution often starts by putting John 10.2730 and Hebrews
- 17:236.4 to 6 right next to each other, since they're arguably
- 17:26the strongest text for each side.
- 17:28We already touched on John 10 with Jesus's incredibly strong
- 17:31statement using that double negative.
- 17:33Right. My sheep shall never perish.
- 17:35No one will snatch them out of my hand.
- 17:37Using that emphatic Greek war, categorically ruling out even
- 17:40the slightest chance of his sheep falling away from Jesus
- 17:44own lips, it seems to firmly establish that true believers
- 17:47simply will not perish. That's a powerful absolute
- 17:51declaration of security. So how then does this resolution
- 17:54approach Hebrews 6.4 to 6, which seems to describe genuinely
- 17:58saved people falling away permanently?
- 18:01Well, Hebrew Sheep is definitely a challenging passage.
- 18:03It does vividly describe individuals who experienced
- 18:05these amazing spiritual realities, enlightened, tasted,
- 18:09shared in the Holy Spirit, and then have fallen away.
- 18:11But the key to understanding it for many who seek this
- 18:14resolution lies in verse 9. Verse 9.
- 18:16What does that say? Verse 9 pivotally states, though
- 18:19we speak like this, dear friends, we are convinced of
- 18:22better things, in your case things that have to do with
- 18:24salvation. The writer seems to distinguish
- 18:27between the hypothetical warning he just gave and the actual
- 18:30reality for his readers, the true believers.
- 18:32So the implication is. The implication drawn is this
- 18:36while genuine believers can fall away, meaning it's a logical
- 18:39possibility rooted in their freedom, they aren't puppets.
- 18:42They will not fall away in a final, irreversible sense.
- 18:46God's grace actively works to prevent them from truly
- 18:49committing apostasy. So God's prevention doesn't
- 18:51remove the option to fall, but makes it certain they will
- 18:54freely choose not to. That's the idea and the warnings
- 18:58themselves. They're understood not as proof
- 19:00that people do fall away permanently, but as one of the
- 19:03very means God uses to ensure his people endure.
- 19:06They are instruments of grace. That distinction can but will
- 19:10not seems pretty central to this resolution.
- 19:12It suggests God upholds us, but in a way that respects our will.
- 19:15It is central, and it means the warnings and commands in
- 19:18Scripture, which Armenians rightly point to, aren't signs
- 19:21that salvation can be lost. Instead, they are the very tools
- 19:25God uses to make sure the saved person won't fall away.
- 19:28So they function as maybe motivational tools, prompting
- 19:32believers to stay true. Exactly like a parent warning a
- 19:35child about the dangers of running into a busy St.
- 19:38The warning isn't given because the parent thinks the child will
- 19:41run out or wants them to. It's given precisely to prevent
- 19:44it, enabling the child to freely choose safety.
- 19:48That makes sense. It puts the focus on
- 19:50perseverance, active spirit, empowered choosing and striving
- 19:55rather than just passive preservation.
- 19:57Right. It's not a security that should
- 19:59lead to complacency, but one that fuels diligent obedience
- 20:02knowing God is working through these means.
- 20:05OK, So what about those specific examples of alleged apostasy?
- 20:08Peter's denial? King Saul.
- 20:10Judas. How does this framework handle
- 20:12those? Well, when you look closely,
- 20:14these cases often seem less conclusive as proof that
- 20:17genuinely regenerated believers lost salvation permanently.
- 20:20Peter's denial, for example, is usually seen as backsliding.
- 20:24Meaning a temporary failure, not a permanent departure.
- 20:27Yes, a moment of profound weakness under extreme pressure,
- 20:30not a settled, willful rejection of Christ.
- 20:33His bitter tears and quick return, later affirmed by
- 20:35Christ, set him apart from someone truly apostate.
- 20:38And King Saul, you mentioned he was under the old covenant.
- 20:41Right. His situation is harder to use
- 20:44as a direct parallel for a New Covenant believer.
- 20:47The way the Spirit worked was different than coming upon
- 20:50people for tasks. Rather than the permanent
- 20:52indwelling and new birth described later, his story seems
- 20:55more about a leader failing his divinely appointed role than
- 20:58necessarily losing personal salvation in the New Covenant
- 21:01sense. What about Judas?
- 21:03He was one of the. The scriptural accounts actually
- 21:05suggest Judas might never have been truly regenerate to begin
- 21:08with, despite being outwardly close to Jesus.
- 21:11Jesus called him a devil early on in John 6.70, indicating an
- 21:15underlying spiritual reality. And his theft was noted too,
- 21:18wasn't it showing a lack of fruit?
- 21:20Yes, John 12.6 mentions his thievery true believers.
- 21:24Scripture indicates bear fruit, reflecting a changed heart.
- 21:27The parable of the sower also speaks of seed falling on rocky
- 21:29ground, people who receive the Word with joy but have no root
- 21:33and fall away when trouble comes.
- 21:35This suggests they were never truly rooted in Christ.
- 21:37When the others Hymenaeus, Alexander, Felitus, Dimas.
- 21:41For them, the sources generally argue, there just isn't enough
- 21:44information to definitively say they were true believers who
- 21:48then lost their salvation. They might have been
- 21:50superficially involved, intellectual adherence perhaps,
- 21:53or outwardly religious but lacking real spiritual life.
- 21:57For maybe believers under discipline or backsliding.
- 22:01That's also possible. The Bible does warn about false
- 22:03prophets and people who seem genuine but don't have that
- 22:06enduring fruit. Endurance in faith is often
- 22:10presented as a mark of true belief, so many of these
- 22:13supposed cases are reinterpreted not as genuine believers losing
- 22:17salvation, but as people who were never truly saved or were
- 22:21experiencing temporary spiritual weakness or discipline.
- 22:23So if this resolution holds, the practical implications for
- 22:27believers seem pretty significant.
- 22:29It means we can rest secure, knowing our salvation is
- 22:31permanent, that nothing can separate us from God's love.
- 22:35Yes. It removes that deep fear of
- 22:36falling away and losing everything.
- 22:38It brings immense joy and gets rid of that gnawing anxiety
- 22:41about potentially forfeiting eternal life.
- 22:43But it doesn't lead to carelessness.
- 22:45No, not at all. This understanding allows no
- 22:47room for spiritual laziness. Quite the opposite.
- 22:50Genuine faith always produces the fruit of the Spirit, and our
- 22:54assurance of salvation comes precisely because the Holy
- 22:57Spirit gives ongoing evidence of His work in our lives.
- 23:01It's a security that motivates active obedience and worship.
- 23:05It doesn't lead to spiritual apathy.
- 23:07It's not a license to sin, but an engine for holiness, knowing
- 23:10God is working in you and upholding you to the very end.
- 23:13That really does clarify a long standing theological discussion
- 23:16and brings a real sense of peace.
- 23:19OK, let's shift gears now to the second doctrine.
- 23:22In our deep dive glorification. This is the pinnacle, the
- 23:25perfection that awaits believers.
- 23:27How do we define this? What does it really mean for us?
- 23:30Glorification is defined as the final, the culminating stage in
- 23:33the whole process of salvation. It represents the ultimate
- 23:36perfecting of the Christian life, where all our current
- 23:38limitations, spiritual, moral, even physical, will be
- 23:41completely removed. And this doctrine overlaps a lot
- 23:44with eschatology, the study of last things.
- 23:46It does, significantly. It looks beyond our present life
- 23:50to the world to come, and because of that, it's an
- 23:52incredibly rich source of practical meaning for us today.
- 23:57It provides immense encouragement and really
- 23:59strengthens the hope we have as believers.
- 24:01So it's about becoming everything God originally
- 24:04intended for us to be, reaching our full potential in Christ.
- 24:07Precisely its ultimate purpose is that believers will become
- 24:11everything God has designed them to be.
- 24:13We'll overcome all present and completeness, suffering the
- 24:17effects of sin, all with a certain absolute hope of future
- 24:20perfection and wholeness. And you mentioned it's
- 24:23multidimensional, not just one thing.
- 24:25Right. It's not narrow.
- 24:27It includes perfecting our spiritual nature that starts at
- 24:29death when our spirit goes to be with the Lord.
- 24:31It includes perfecting our bodies that happens at the
- 24:34resurrection when they're made into glorious eternal forms.
- 24:37And it even extends to the transformation and renewal of
- 24:40the entire creation, providing a perfect home for glorified
- 24:43humanity. Before we dive into the details
- 24:45of our glorification, maybe we should clarify the meaning of
- 24:48glory itself. Theologically speaking, what did
- 24:51it mean in the Old Testament? For instance, the Hebrew word
- 24:54kabod. Yes, Kabod in the Old Testament
- 24:56often refers to something you could perceive.
- 24:58Splendor, wealth, majesty, pomp. When it's applied to God, it
- 25:03signifies the greatness of his whole nature.
- 25:05It portrays Him as the King of glory, attended by his heavenly
- 25:08hosts, marked by infinite splendor and radiant beauty like
- 25:12we see in Psalm 24. It's God's visible, weighty
- 25:15manifestation of His inherent excellence.
- 25:18OK. And in the New Testament, the
- 25:20Greek word doxa. Doxa carries similar ideas.
- 25:23Brightness, splendor, magnificence, renown.
- 25:27And this glory is profoundly connected to Jesus Christ.
- 25:29We see it especially in His resurrection.
- 25:31God glorified him as Acts 3 and first Peter one mentioned.
- 25:35Romans 6 also talks about Christ being raised through the glory
- 25:37of the Father right it? Does and Philippians 3 mentions
- 25:41his glorious resurrection body, body now radiant with divine
- 25:44light. And his ascension and 2nd coming
- 25:47are also linked to his glory. Absolutely.
- 25:49He was taken up in glory, according to First Timothy 3.16.
- 25:53He was exalted at God's right hand, as Acts 2 and five show,
- 25:56and His return will be the ultimate display of His glory.
- 25:59He'll come with ability and great glory, sitting on His
- 26:02glorious throne, as Matthew 24 and 25 describe it.
- 26:06Titus 2.13 calls this the blessed hope, the appearing of
- 26:10the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.
- 26:12It's the climax where His currently veiled glory bursts
- 26:15forth for everyone to see. And both testaments consistently
- 26:18present this future display of God's glory as the believers
- 26:21ultimate hope and goal, don't they?
- 26:23Stressing how much greater it is than any present suffering.
- 26:26They do. Psalm 73.24 speaks of God
- 26:29guiding us and then taking us into glory afterward, suggesting
- 26:33it's our final destination. And Paul in Romans 8.18 makes
- 26:36that direct comparison. Yes, saying our present
- 26:39sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that
- 26:41will be revealed in US. It just diminishes the weight of
- 26:44current troubles when you see what's coming.
- 26:46And 2nd Corinthians 4.17 adds that our light and momentary
- 26:50troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs
- 26:53them all. Reframing suffering is actually
- 26:55productive. Exactly.
- 26:57It reframes suffering not as pointless, but as a temporary
- 27:00means to an immeasurable eternal good.
- 27:03Peter also links present suffering with future glory in
- 27:06First Peter 5, urging elders to care for the flock so they'll
- 27:09receive a crown of glory that will never fade away.
- 27:12This perspective fundamentally changes how we view hardship.
- 27:16It becomes a path toward a greater end, a glorious future
- 27:19that makes sense of our present difficulties.
- 27:21OK, so let's. Break down the specific aspects
- 27:23of the believer's glorification. How does it wrap up our
- 27:26salvation acting as the final stage and our inheritance?
- 27:29Right. Glorification is the
- 27:31culmination, the magnificent completion.
- 27:33It's consistently called an inheritance 1, guaranteed by the
- 27:36Holy Spirit as Ephesians One and first Peter One explain.
- 27:39That same inheritance Peter described as imperishable,
- 27:42undefiled and unfading. That's the one.
- 27:45A living hope kept in heaven for us and shielded by God's
- 27:48faithfulness until we fully receive it.
- 27:50Plus, Romans 5.910 assures us we'll be saved from God's wrath
- 27:54at the judgement through Christ's reconciliation.
- 27:56This guarantees a positive, vindicated outcome for us at the
- 27:59end. And it involves a full, final
- 28:02public vindication, a declaration of our justified
- 28:05status. Precisely.
- 28:06Glorification involves a public, unmistakable manifestation of
- 28:11the justification that happened when we first believed.
- 28:14That future judgement acts as a final, open declaration of our
- 28:17righteous status before everyone, the whole cosmos.
- 28:21Romans 8 again, right? Who will bring any charge
- 28:23against God's elect? It is God who justifies that.
- 28:26Powerful rhetorical question. Who then is the one who condemns
- 28:29no one? Christ Jesus who died, is at the
- 28:32right hand of God and is also interceding for us.
- 28:34Matthew 25 also paints that picture of final separation and
- 28:38affirmation. Christians can look forward to
- 28:40the last judgment with confidence, not fear, knowing
- 28:43the result will be their complete, joyful vindication.
- 28:46And what about morally and spiritually?
- 28:47Will we truly be free from the struggle with sin then?
- 28:50Absolutely. Believers will experience a
- 28:52glorious completion of the moral and spiritual growth that
- 28:55started at regeneration and continued through sanctification
- 28:59passages like Colossians 1.2, Ephesians 1.4, Jude 24, First
- 29:03Corinthians 1.8, Philippians 1.911, they all talk about
- 29:06believers being presented wholly, without blemish, free
- 29:10from accusation, pure, blameless before God.
- 29:13And this includes being free from temptation itself.
- 29:15Yes, this perfection includes the absolute removal of
- 29:18temptation and the very presence of sin.
- 29:21The source of evil will be conclusively dealt with and
- 29:23confined, as Revelation 20 suggests.
- 29:26Just imagine living without even the slightest inclination
- 29:28towards sin, perfectly aligned with God's holy character.
- 29:31That's the moral triumph of glorification.
- 29:33And our knowledge, which feels so partial now, will that become
- 29:37complete? Yes, our current fragmented
- 29:39understanding will be replaced by a vastly fuller
- 29:41comprehension. First Corinthians 13.12
- 29:44describes it beautifully, moving from seeing only a reflection,
- 29:47as in a mirror, dim, indirect, to seeing face to face, a
- 29:51direct, unmediated encounter with reality.
- 29:53A knowing fully, even as we are fully known.
- 29:56Exactly, and His increased perfect knowledge comes from
- 29:59directly seeing the Lord Himself.
- 30:01As first John 3.2 says, when He appears, we shall be like Him,
- 30:04for we shall see Him as He is. Our minds will be perfectly
- 30:07attuned to truth, our understanding expanded beyond
- 30:10anything we can grasp now. This is all incredibly
- 30:12encouraging, especially the spiritual and moral aspects.
- 30:15But what about our physical bodies?
- 30:17How does glorification affect them?
- 30:19This is a really crucial part, and it happens specifically at
- 30:22the resurrection of believers. When Christ returns, everyone
- 30:25who has died in the Lord plus believer still alive then will
- 30:29undergo A radical change. Philippians 3 talks about this,
- 30:32doesn't it? Our lowly bodies being changed.
- 30:34Yes, Philippians 3.122 one says. Our lowly bodies, our current
- 30:38fragile mortal ones, will be changed to be like His glorious
- 30:41body. The Greek word is semaphon,
- 30:44meaning similar in form and nature to Christ's own
- 30:47resurrected body. So our future body will be
- 30:49eternal, A heavenly dwelling. Yes.
- 30:51Second Corinthians 5 describes it as a heavenly dwelling, not
- 30:55made by human hands, coming directly from God.
- 30:57What is mortal will be swallowed up by life, totally infused with
- 31:02God's eternal vitality. And 1st Corinthians 15 gives
- 31:04even more detail about the kind of body it will be, right
- 31:07contrasting it with our current one.
- 31:09It does. Paul draws for powerful contrast
- 31:12there. First, our present body is
- 31:15perishable, subject to disease, decay, death.
- 31:18The resurrection body will be incorruptible, totally immune to
- 31:22all that. OK, perishable becomes
- 31:23incorruptible. What?
- 31:24Else Second, the present body is sown in dishonor, referring to
- 31:27its frailties, the shame of sin. The resurrection body will be
- 31:31glorious, radiant with divine beauty and honor.
- 31:33Dishonor to glory. Got it. 3rd The prison body is
- 31:36weak, easily tired, limited. The resurrection body will be
- 31:40powerful, capable of divine service without limitations.
- 31:43Weakness to strength. And 4th the present body is
- 31:46physical. The Greek is psychicon referring
- 31:49to its natural soul dominated existence.
- 31:52The resurrection body will be spiritual pneumaticon, not
- 31:55meaning non physical, but meaning empowered and directed
- 31:58by the Spirit, perfectly suited to our new spiritual nature,
- 32:02fully animated by the Holy Spirit.
- 32:04Perishable, dishonorable, weak, natural, becomes incorruptible,
- 32:07glorious, strong, spiritual, and this amazing change happens
- 32:11instantly. Instantly, First Corinthians
- 32:1315.51 to 52 is explicit. In a flash, in the twinkling of
- 32:18an eye at the last trumpet, the dead will be raised imperishable
- 32:21and living believers will be changed right then, caught up to
- 32:24meet the Lord. The glorification of the body
- 32:26isn't a slow process. It's a sudden, dramatic,
- 32:29complete remaking at the end. Wow.
- 32:31And finally, how does our glorification connect to the
- 32:34rest of creation, the world around us?
- 32:36Glorification also includes the grand renewal of the entire
- 32:39creation. Romans 8.1825 explains how
- 32:42creation itself was affected by human sin.
- 32:45Subjected to frustration, Paul says creation is groaning in
- 32:48anticipation. Waiting for liberation.
- 32:50Exactly. Romans 8.21 says creation will
- 32:53be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the
- 32:57freedom and glory of the children of God.
- 32:59It shares in our ultimate liberation.
- 33:01This leads to a new heaven and a new earth, the new Jerusalem
- 33:05descending a perfect unmarred environment for glorified
- 33:08humanity, a place completely filled with God's glory.
- 33:11As Revelation 21 describes, our final home will be a perfect
- 33:15setting, free from sin's curse, where God's glory is everywhere.
- 33:18That paints such a magnificent, all-encompassing and really
- 33:21uplifting picture. So with all these aspects of
- 33:24glorification considered, how do these doctrines, perseverance
- 33:27and especially glorification give hope and encouragement and
- 33:30joy to believers right now, especially when facing
- 33:33suffering? Well, believers often groan and
- 33:36suffer in this life, as Paul says, precisely because we sense
- 33:39our incompleteness, the lingering effects of sin, the
- 33:42pain of mortality, the frustrations of this fallen
- 33:44world. Glorification promises with
- 33:46absolute divine certainty that something far better lies ahead.
- 33:50It assures us we will be everything that God has intended
- 33:52us to be. Yes, completely freed from all
- 33:56present and completeness and suffering, with an absolute hope
- 33:59of future perfection and wholeness.
- 34:01And this certainty really changes how we look at suffering
- 34:03now, doesn't it? It does, absolutely.
- 34:06The Bible consistently holds up this future display of God's
- 34:09glory as our ultimate hope and goal, stressing how much greater
- 34:13it is than any present troubles. Paul's words are so clear.
- 34:16Our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory
- 34:19that will be revealed in US. Romans 8.1 weigh.
- 34:22And our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an
- 34:25eternal glory that far outweighs them all.
- 34:27Second Corinthians 4.17, right? This view doesn't deny
- 34:31suffering, but it recasts it as a temporary means to an
- 34:35immeasurably greater eternal It fosters a resilient hope for a
- 34:39glory that totally surpasses all present difficulties and gives
- 34:42meaning to every trial. The certain prospect of perfect
- 34:45completeness and fulfillment spiritually, morally, physically
- 34:48environmental police, plus the unhindered immediate presence of
- 34:51God's glory that brings an immense settled joy that can
- 34:54sustain us through anything. What a strong and reassuring
- 34:57vision of our future. It reminds me of that verse from
- 35:00James M Gray's poem, Complete in the No work of mine may take.
- 35:04Dear Lord, the place of dine Thy blood hath pardon bought for me,
- 35:08and I am now complete in Thee. Yeah, justified, O blessed
- 35:12thought, and sanctified salvation wrought.
- 35:15Thy blood hath pardon bought for me, and glorified I too shall
- 35:19be. That's a wonderful summation,
- 35:21isn't it? Covering the whole scope from
- 35:23justification right through to that final glory.
- 35:25So we've seen how perseverance assures our walk of faith,
- 35:28holding us up through every challenge, and how glorification
- 35:31guarantees our future perfection in Christ.
- 35:34These two doctrines together paint a beautiful, complete
- 35:37picture of God's full and eternal rescue plan for you.
- 35:40They really do. And perhaps as you go from here,
- 35:43you could consider this How might living with the secure
- 35:46hope of glorification affect your daily joy and your courage
- 35:49when you face trials? How might knowing your perfect
- 35:51future in Christ fundamentally reshape how you view today's
- 35:55difficulties? That's a great thought to ponder
- 35:57as you continue your own walk of faith.
- 35:59This has been reformed thinking. We trust this deep dive into
- 36:02perseverance and glorification has been a meaningful one for
- 36:05you. Join us again next time for
- 36:07another deep dive into a topic that helps you become well
- 36:10informed.