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MINI SCROLL: Taylor Swift Rep TV Vancouver theory, Makenna Gibbons brings receipts, CorporateTok drama + Alex Warren x Joe Jonas · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
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  culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
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  media, the creator economy and the digital space every Monday
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  through Thursday. I'm your host, Lauren Meisner,
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  the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
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  Whoa, I said that. That was a little bit crazy.
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  I feel the pressure to say Centennial World in an
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  interesting way every single day.
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  Now that I know you guys say it along with me, I love it, but it
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  does put the pressure on me. Anyways, welcome back to Mini
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  Scroll everyone. I fear I have a very big episode
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  for you guys today, so strap in, maybe get like a snack.
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  I have no idea how long this episode's going to be, but I
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  have four stories for you guys. One of them is kind of short,
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  but before I get into the stories, I wanted to give you
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  guys a little bit of a business update.
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  I know some of you like hearing about this.
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  I do put time stamps down below. If you don't give a shit about
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  like me or the business that I run or this podcast or anything
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  fair, just go down to the time stamps and the stories will
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  start. So very exciting news.
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  But a couple of weeks ago we signed our very first year long
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  partnership for next year. There is going to be some
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  content like across everything. So like our newsletter, our
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  TikTok, our podcast, obviously, and also on my own personal
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  TikTok and Instagram, which is like a little bit unhinged
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  because I don't, I don't know, I don't really have, I don't do
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  like personal sponsorships or anything.
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  I mean, I literally have like 1000 followers on TikTok, that's
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  it. But on my Instagram, I have more
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  than that. But still like I am not like an
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  influencer, you know, like I kind of I went down the YouTube
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  route for a little bit like vlogging my life personally.
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  And then I was like, this is actually just not for me.
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  So it's interesting. It's kind of a cool part of the
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  partnership, but it's actually going to be around like my
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  journey as a founder and like how this partnership and like my
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  founder experience tie into together as opposed to like me
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  talking about the brand or the product, if that makes sense,
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  Which feels a lot more authentic and real.
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  Cuz that's what I do on my channels.
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  Like if I do make TikTok content or reels or whatever, it's all
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  about the business. So if you guys aren't following
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  me on Instagram, please follow me.
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  It's just at Lauren Meisner under score.
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  I know a lot of you guys, most of you guys are not following
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  me, but yeah, it's really exciting.
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  I feel like, you know, we've been doing this now this brand
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  Centennial world for a few years now.
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  We're actually coming up sounds kind of insane on our 5th
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  birthday, but mini scroll I've only been doing since April and
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  then the bigger podcast infinite scroll I did for several years
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  before with, you know, my Co founder Jordan who left at the
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  beginning of this year. So it feels like a big win for
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  us. Like we're I still feel like
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  we're a baby brand even though we're almost technically five
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  years old. But like so much has changed and
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  we've changed our business model like 100 times in those five
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  years. And I feel like now we have it
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  set and it feels like just sticking with this.
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  The work is starting to pay off, which is like so exciting.
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  And the other thing that I wanted to share, I feel like
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  it's, I mean, it's definitely not a win.
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  I think that this is just like going along with what I was
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  saying about like the founder journey, like some of the best
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  things can happen to you in the same week as like some of the
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  biggest losses. And to be fair, like given the
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  context of this year and everything I've gone through
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  like this is nowhere near one of like the quote UN quote biggest
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  losses. But I was like this close.
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  I feel like this close to getting an interview, an in
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  person interview with JoJo Siwa and I did not get it.
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  I'm so sad. So tonight is the Australian
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  TikTok Awards. They do the TikTok awards every
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  year since I think like 2020 or 2021, probably 2021 because I
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  think we were locked down in 2020.
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  But yeah, so every year there's the Australian TikTok awards
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  around this time in Sydney and we are always invited, but we've
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  actually never been granted like red carpet access.
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  So last year I was like, hey, we would love to do red carpet next
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  year. You know, feels like it's a
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  seamless fit. We have a media brand that
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  almost exclusively covers TikTok creators, TikTok trends, what's
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  happening on TikTok, you know, and a lot of you guys actually
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  this year have been asking for like more Australian focused
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  TikTok and like news and information, not information
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  news and like creators and stuff like that.
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  So yeah, it felt like obviously it feels like the red carpet we
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  should absolutely be at. It actually feels like this
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  should be like, one of the biggest events in our calendar
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  year. Yeah.
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  So this year when we found out JoJo Siwa was coming, I was
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  like, please can we get red carpet access?
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  Like, we need to interview JoJo Siwa.
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  We have covered her like, 1000 times on this podcast.
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  Like, think about how many times we have talked about JoJo Siwa
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  and you guys know, like, I am a JoJo Siwa apologist.
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  Like I, I see what she has been through.
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  And I was like, please. Anyways, So that is like the
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  plight of being a startup is you have these wins where like
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  someone will take a chance on you and you feel so grateful and
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  you're like, Oh my God, I cannot believe that we're getting this
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  opportunity. And then you will be humbled so
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  quickly, like the very same day. And it's just that constant
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  fight of trying to like prove yourself, you know, like trying
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  to prove that I have an audience that would very much like to
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  hear from JoJo Siwa. You guys would die if I was
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  interviewing JoJo Siwa. That would be so crazy.
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  So it's just like always, constantly like breaking down
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  these fucking barriers of being like, this is who we are.
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  This is what we're doing. We do have an engaged audience.
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  We do reach this many millions of people every single month.
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  Like we are covering this like we are the Australian, as far as
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  I know, the only Australian Gen. Z publication that covers
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  exclusively Internet culture. You know, like we don't really
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  cover mainstream pop culture. Like we cover what is happening
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  online. And 90% of that is related to
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  what is happening on TikTok. And so it is just that like that
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  dichotomy of like experiences in like the same like week is so,
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  so crazy. But yes, so that is kind of my
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  little Centennial world business update.
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  But I'm so excited about this year long partnership.
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  It feels like a huge win. It feels like a huge, like
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  weight off of us. And it just feels like, yeah,
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  the start of something like really exciting.
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  All right, let's get into the stories for today.
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  Me saying that we don't cover mainstream pop culture.
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  My first story is literally about Taylor Swift.
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  However, it is a Taylor Swift story related to TikTok
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  theories. OK, so there are new theories as
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  to when Taylor Swift is going to release reputation.
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  Taylor's version. So our partnerships manager Alex
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  is the biggest Swifty. So I asked her to put this
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  theory together for me and she wanted me to say on the podcast
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  before I share this theory that this is not her theory.
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  This is like a culmination of TikTok theories, which is how we
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  report on the news here. Anyways, you guys know that.
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  OK so Swifty's are now convinced that Taylor is releasing
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  Reputation Taylor's version on the final leg of her tour in
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  Vancouver. This is like just bullet points
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  like bam bam bam. Here are all the reasons.
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  OK so stick with me. In her music video for her song
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  Karma, you see Taylor dressed as Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz
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  walking on the yellow brick road and she is in her Ruby red
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  slippers and she says I keep my side of the road clean.
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  You wouldn't know what that means.
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  Which is a lyric from not from Reputation from Karma.
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  This signals to all the people who have wronged her and as we
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  know reputation the album is all about the people that have
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  wronged her. OK then you look back to the
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  Lover music video where Taylor is climbing the ladder in the
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  Lover house to the reputation room.
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  And the room she is climbing from only has yellow clothes
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  hung up and a wooden basket on the floor which signals back to
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  the yellow brick road and Dorothy with Toto in her basket
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  which then signals back around to the Karma music video.
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  And if you look at Taylor's Instagram grid right now, you
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  can see in her post that she has created a yellow brick path with
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  four of her posts so far. If her next post is yellow, then
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  the path continues. Otherwise if her next post isn't
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  until December 6th, which is her first show in Vancouver, that it
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  may be the Reputation album cover where the path leads to
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  this release. And then the craziest full
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  circle part of this is that Vancouver is known as the
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  Emerald City. I actually didn't know this, I'm
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  Canadian but I'm from Toronto. And Alex was like, is this true?
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  And so I was like looking it up online and actually it seems
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  like it is true. It is called the Emerald City.
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  And that would make so much sense that she releases her
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  Dorothy storytelling at the place called the Emerald City,
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  obviously. OK, so now this is some extra
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  lore. There are like 3 points of extra
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  lore that Alex included in this. Taylor had an interview with
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  Times Magazine on December 6th, 2023 and said reputation.
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  Taylor's version vault would be fire and her first show in
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  Vancouver is December 6th, 2024, exactly 1 year later.
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  The extra extra lore is that her reputation bodysuit recently has
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  changed from the Red snakes to the Gold snakes AKA the yellow
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  brick road. And then this is extra extra
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  crazy fucking lore, Alex wrote in quotes.
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  Taylor always dresses to the album launch like her outside
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  real world fashion always symbolizes like the album
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  launch. And recently she's apparently
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  been wearing Plaid and she says who wears Plaid?
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  Fucking Dorothy. OK, love you.
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  Good luck. OK, so I don't know about all of
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  that stuff, but I'm going to say it would make sense just from
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  like a practical perspective for her to release reputation before
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  the Eras Tour ends. Because the Eras Tour, at least
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  the way that I take it, is that it is like a representation of
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  this era of her career, right, that she is deciding then to
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  kind of bring to a close. And I think it would be really
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  exciting if we saw something like completely different from
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  Taylor after the Airs tour ends. So yeah, I think it makes sense
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  that she would release like the final album that she hasn't
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  rerecorded. And I know she hasn't rerecorded
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  debut, but I also know that a lot of Swifties think she just
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  won't rerecord that one. So I'm kind of just ignoring
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  that fact. But I think, yeah, like when it
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  comes to reputation, it makes sense for her to like close that
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  chapter by re releasing it before the Eris tour ends.
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  And then once the Eris tour ends and then all of her re records
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  are done. Like that is closing a huge
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  chapter like that is closing this chapter of her career,
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  which I see the Eris tour as like a symbol of, if that makes
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  sense. So that is the latest theory.
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  Let me know if you guys believe it or not, OK?
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  The next story that I have is that McKenna Gibbons has
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  defended herself against Taylor. Frankie Paul's clap back from
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  yesterday. So McKenna has come with her own
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  receipts to debunk what Taylor implied yesterday in her Tik
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  Toks. For a refresher, Taylor posted a
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  screenshot of a message that Mckenna's phone had sent back.
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  Like a mid, you know, the swinging stuff saying hope
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  you're having fun in Moab. I'm drunk and I wish I was
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  kissing you. So Taylor was showing that
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  saying like McKenna sent me this message showing that McKenna was
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  like really down for the swinging.
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  So McKenna in this new TikTok today showed the full thread.
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  So after Taylor responded being like, oh, I was drunk last night
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  too. Like we can kiss next weekend.
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  Haha. Like just like was nice.
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  Back to that message, McKenna replied saying Oh no, ha ha.
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  I don't know what I even said. I have zero memories of any text
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  messages going to you. What did it say?
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  Was it a voice message? So McKenna says she couldn't
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  even see that message. Like the message where she said
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  hope you're having fun in Moab. I'm drunk and I wish I was
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  kissing you. Which is why she was like, what
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  did I send you? Did it?
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  Was it a voice message like a voice note?
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  Because she's like, I couldn't even see it because Brayden, who
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  was Mckenna's husband at the time, sent it to Taylor from her
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  phone and then deleted that message.
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  But McKenna still has it on her iPad.
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  So like the messages she was showing us in the TikTok from
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  today were screenshots of her iPad messages like her I
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  messages on her iPad. So she's like, I could see it in
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  the I cloud like on my iPad, but it was not in my phone, which is
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  why I was like, what did I send you?
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  And then she showed more messages where they're talking
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  about how Mckenna's ex Braden sent Taylor that message.
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  So I guess that was like a known thing they had talked about.
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  And you can actually see McKenna, right?
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  I was talking about you and wanting you there and told
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  presumably Braden, but she like scratched out his name.
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  So I think she probably wrote Bray or Braden to text you on my
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  phone. And then she continues by
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  talking about how she feels like this whole swinging stuff has
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  painted her in like a bisexual light, which she is not.
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  And she was like, no judgement to anyone that is, but like I'm
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  not. So I think that was, again, her
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  trying to prove like she was not down for the swinging, like she
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  had wanted it to stop. And I mean, I said this
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  yesterday, but this is just Taylor being so messy because
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  those messages had time stamps. Like, I believe that those are
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  real messages that Mckenna's showing.
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  And Taylor obviously knows how the conversation continued after
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  she received that message from Mckenna's phone.
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  So yeah, I think it was just Taylor being really shady.
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  And she is just, like I said yesterday, like all those girls,
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  not McKenna, but like, all the girls on the show are like
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  masters of drumming up engagement and drama online.
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  And they're doing it to get people to watch Season 2, you
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  know? And McKenna says, like, she's
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  been offered the show many times.
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  She's always declined. And this like, I don't think
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  Mckenna's pardon this on her telling her story like that.
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  I don't think is. I mean, it's definitely not for
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  the show. Like she's not on the show.
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  So like, it's not for the show. But yeah, it's all just kind of
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  like culminating together at the same time of like when Taylor
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  and like all the other girls are trying to drum up like press and
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  drama and stuff for their show for Season 2 to get kind of like
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  us excited for Season 2, I guess.
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  So I guess Taylor was leaning into that when she made that
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  TikTok about McKenna. But now it seems like it's
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  backfiring because McKenna is coming here with the receipts.
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  OK, the next word that I have for you guys is we need to talk
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  about the creator who is going viral for sharing her unhinged
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  out of office messages. So Chef Moe's is a chef and a
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  creator on TikTok with over 87,000 followers.
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  She shares cooking vlogs and like lifestyle content mostly.
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  According to her TikTok playlist corporate work day.
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  It seems like she works as an operations manager as well for a
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  catering company. So as well as being like a
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  private chef, she works, you know, a corporate job, like
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  being an operations manager for this catering company.
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  I don't know if that's where she currently works, but as of
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  April, that's what her vlogs were saying.
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  OK, so earlier this week she went super viral for talking
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  about these unhinged out of office messages that she sends
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  when she goes away or like that she sets up to send when she
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  goes away. At first they were like fun
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  little stories about like adventures involving like
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  squirrels and sharks and they would just be really fun, like
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  little, little stories that you can read or you know, when you
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  know, I'm not there. So then I changed it and I
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  started making the stories a lot more serious and they had like a
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  historical context and they had fun facts and they were just
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  like a great elaborate stories. And my most recent one is giving
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  Wellness tips like how to stretch at your desk, how to
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  practice mindfulness. You know how to make sure that
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  you get up and walk every, you know, 20 minutes if you, if you
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  spend a long time at your desk. OK so she said that her boss
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  keeps pulling her up being like these are unprofessional.
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  Like, please just set up like more normal out of office
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  emails. And she was saying that she
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  feels like she is being, quote, smothered by corporate America
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  right now, that her personality is being smothered.
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  So this has caused quite the discussion online.
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  A lot of people are like, come on, this is obviously really
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  unprofessional. Like, get a journal if you want
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  to express yourself. And others are kind of on her
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  side saying basically something like this would make work way
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  more enjoyable if people felt like, empowered to be themselves
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  and share these, like, quirky sides of themselves.
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  And OK, I actually have a story about a really unhinged out of
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  office e-mail that I got only just a few months ago.
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  So it was someone working at a media agency who was,
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  interestingly enough, representing a really big bank,
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  which feels kind of crazy when you think about it because you
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  think about banks as being like, so corporate.
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  And they literally had like, Unicorn emojis and sparkles and
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  hearts. And it was like, hey, diva, I'm
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  on vacay. Like, it was actually wild.
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  It was so funny, but obviously, like me receiving it, I fucking
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  loved it. You know, like I, I shared it
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  with my whole team. We wanted to print it out and
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  frame it and like put it on our wall.
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  Like we thought it was so funny. We were literally dying.
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  It was like brain rot. As an e-mail, it was amazing.
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  But I think it depends on like who that e-mail lands with,
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  right? Like you can never guarantee
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  that the person on the other side of that e-mail is going to
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  appreciate it or how they're going to take it.
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  So I do think you have to play it safe, unfortunately in
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  corporate and you just have to play the game.
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  And this is actually another big conversation right now on TikTok
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  or like corporate talk, I guess. And this is not about Chef MO's
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  specifically, but there's a big discussion right now about how a
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  lot of young people didn't get to experience like an ease into
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  workplace or like corporate life because of the pandemic.
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  And then now obviously like everyone's just been working
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  from home for years. Like even if you still go into
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  the office a little bit, like you know, you're not going into
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  the office five days a week most of us anymore, right?
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  So you just miss out on like observing the dynamics of
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  corporate culture and corporate structures and things like that.
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  Like I know for me, entering the workforce when I was right out
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  of university into my first job in corporate, like I realized
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  pretty early on that it didn't come natural to me to understand
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  like the politics of a workplace, the hierarchy and how
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  kind of like all the pieces fit together in an organization.
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  And that was something that I had to like, actively work on
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  learning and getting faster at identifying.
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  And that was something that like I actively worked on throughout
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  my early career. But I think if you're not
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  exposed to that very often, you probably don't even realize,
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  like, you need to learn that, you know, you might not even
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  realize where your blind spots are.
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  OK. But anyways, back to Chef Moe's.
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  So she has really taken this feedback and this virality in
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  stride. She posted a new video today,
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  like making fun of her writing her own out of office emails.
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  And it was basically like, no one at all.
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  And then it was like me writing out of office emails.
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  And it was literally just her typing on her computer for like
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  10 minutes. And then in the caption she
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  wrote, all jokes aside, I understand why I shouldn't do
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  this anymore. I feel like I know it's like low
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  stakes virality, you know, like what she was kind of getting
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  like, quote UN quote backlash for was very low stakes in the
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  scheme of like what people get backlash for in TikTok.
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  But I just love how she responded to this.
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  She's like, you know what? OK, I've heard you.
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  She didn't delete the video and she's just like rolling with it
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  and making a joke out of it. I love that.
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  OK, and the last story that I have for you guys, a very quick
• 19:35
  one, but it's so random. Alex Warren and Joe Jonas are
• 19:39
  collaborating on a song. So Alex Warren just teased the
• 19:43
  release of a new song called Burning Down that will feature
• 19:47
  Joe Jonas. Actually didn't think Alex
• 19:49
  Warren was relevant enough to get Joe Jonas to feature on one
• 19:53
  of his songs. So I guess like, good for him.
• 19:55
  I don't know. The song is coming December 6th.
• 19:58
  I don't know anything about this song.
• 20:00
  If you guys know more about this song, let me know.
• 20:01
  But it sounds like based on the clip that he played in the
• 20:03
  TikTok, it almost sounds like it's a song about the hype
• 20:06
  house. Like it's almost like a song
• 20:07
  about Thomas Petrou, who was like the leader of the hype
• 20:10
  house and how Alex feels like he was maybe kind of like
• 20:13
  manipulative or just didn't treat them right and made poor
• 20:19
  decisions. I don't know.
• 20:20
  But yeah, literally so random I have no other thoughts.
• 20:24
  That sounds like an OK song. Anyways, guys, that's it for
• 20:28
  mini scroll today. Thank you so much for listening.
• 20:30
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• 20:33
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• 20:36
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• 20:40
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• 20:43
  to you guys tomorrow. OK, bye.