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Motorola Signature 27 Gets Major Price Increase Out Pricing the iPhone 18 Pro Max vs S27 Ultra or iPhone Duo · eSIM STUDIOS Podcast - Tech News + Reviews

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  This is exactly how you mess up the launch of
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  a smartphone before it's even launched. Motorola
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  is set to release its first flagship smartphone
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  stateside in years, and they already screwed
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  this up. It almost seemed too good to be true
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  when this device was announced. Leading up to
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  this launch, we basically know everything there
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  is to know about this Signature 27. it's going
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  to be top notch everything about it hardware
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  and shall i say software but how did i know this
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  was too good to be true there's always got to
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  be something in these launches that messes everything
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  up in this one no different so what the hell
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  am i talking about well a european retailer listing
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  revealed potential pricing for the signature
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  27 and The Motorola Razer Flex 27, the wide -body
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  foldable, and the price of these devices are
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  way, way higher than anybody could have imagined.
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  Portuguese retailer Mega PC has listed the Signature
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  27 and the Razer Flex 27 with their European
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  prices and memory configurations as well as color
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  options. for both devices you might want to sit
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  down for this one or if you're driving please
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  pull over you might have a heart attack so the
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  signature 27 listing shows the 12 gig of ram
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  512 gigs of storage configuration in the pantone
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  coal smoke color okay priced at 1594 euros that's
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  the equivalent to 1000 $1 ,773. I'm going to
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  repeat that. $1 ,773. That is an insane price
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  increase over last year's Motorola signature.
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  Just an astronomical price hike. And the kick
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  in the nuts. is that this does not have the 16
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  gig of ram model this is the 12 gig 512 model
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  now as i said at the at the beginning we basically
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  knew all the specs when it came to this device
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  as far as the hardware and we know the software
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  and we obviously did not know the price however
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  we didn't know the storage configurations as
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  well something tells me that The only 16GB of
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  RAM model that Motorola is going to offer looks
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  like it might potentially be with a 1TB storage
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  variant configuration. Kind of like what Samsung
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  does. I don't know if we're getting 16GB of RAM,
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  512GB of storage like on the OG signature. Because
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  that came in 12256, that came in 16512, and 161TB.
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  This Signature 27 looks like it's going to come
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  in, I think, $12 ,256, $12 ,512, and then, we
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  don't know, maybe $16 ,1TB, with that being even
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  more expensive. I'm sure it'll reach, scratch,
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  itch the $2 ,000 price point. And if you go back
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  and look at the numbers... The same listing for
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  the Motorola signature on this Portuguese retailer's
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  MegaPC's website. The Motorola signature, the
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  OG signature, was priced at €999, which comes
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  out to $1 ,168 for the same storage configuration.
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  So just in one year, that's a price increase
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  of 60%. a 60 % price increase year over year.
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  I know in the past I've said, I don't mind paying
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  a little extra, you know, for top -notch specs,
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  right? And I was kind of saying maybe 50, 100,
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  150, maybe, just maybe $200 more, but not $600
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  more. That is an astronomical price hike. When
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  I saw this today, I literally had to rub my eyes.
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  Thought I had some blurred vision or something.
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  I was like, nah, that can't be right. This is
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  the exact reason. why I wanted Motorola to go
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  with the watered -down version of the Snapdragon
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  flagship CPU for this upcoming year. Ignis Signature
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  27, they're going with the Snapdragon 8 Elite
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  Extreme Gen 6. I wanted them to go with the Snapdragon
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  8 Elite Gen 6, not the Extreme, simply for this
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  reason, because I knew it would come with an
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  enormous price hike. I had no idea it would be
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  $600 price hike. And look, this is dangerous
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  for Motorola to be doing this. Because each and
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  every person, you have to ask yourself, right?
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  At what price is it too expensive to purchase
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  a device? At almost $1 ,800 for 12 gigs of RAM,
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  512 gigs of storage, that seems like it's...
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  right at that edge and or already gone over the
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  edge of damn near too expensive now i know i
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  know you can get trade -in deals typically we
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  don't pay full price whenever if you're smart
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  about it you don't really ever pay the full price
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  full asking price of these devices because when
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  they're launched you can get trade -in deals
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  and you know they'll always throw freebies in
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  or hell you can get even get them at the carriers
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  which we'll talk about here in a second But just
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  the round number, just the MSRP says a lot about
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  what a company presents a product to the public.
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  And I personally think this price is too far.
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  It might be a little premature to overreact because
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  I would hope I've said this before and I've lost
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  confidence in a lot of these companies. As far
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  as people they have in charge, the decision makers
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  from within these companies that actually have
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  these discussions behind the scenes. Because
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  on Motorola's end, let's put ourselves in Motorola's
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  shoes, right? So they're bringing a flagship
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  device to the United States worldwide. Global
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  device now that will compete against the S27
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  Ultra. the pixel 11 pro xl the iphone 18 pro
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  max they're stepping in that flagship segment
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  the ultra premium segment so it's going to have
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  a premium price but if you're in motorola shoes
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  at what price would be too high right you don't
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  want to out price yourself but you still want
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  to make a profit all we know is the end product
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  and what we see And from this angle, that price
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  looks insane. I would like to think that they
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  would get in that same ballpark of their competition,
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  meaning, I don't know, within $50, $60, potentially
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  $100 of whatever the same storage variant of
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  the upcoming S27 Ultra would be, potentially
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  of what the iPhone 18 Pro Max is. So I do think
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  you will see some price variation when it does
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  come to the United States. But from the look
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  of things, my God, this is disappointing. I think
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  the only way for Motorola to sell a bunch of
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  these devices, when look, when I say a bunch,
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  again, only Motorola knows how many devices they
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  need to sell. They need to move to really make
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  a profit. But if they want to sell phones in
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  the US, they're going to have to get this thing
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  in the carriers. I don't see many people buying
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  this just flat out on Motorola's website. I just
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  don't see it. But everybody knows here in America,
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  a large majority of the population gets their
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  cell phones from the carriers. So I do fully
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  expect this Signature 27. to be in all major
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  carriers in the united states i just i just don't
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  see them selling any at this price on a motorola
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  website sorry so this is two strikes against
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  the upcoming signature 27. don't forget motorola
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  now it could change in the future but right now
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  motorola is not doing monthly updates on this
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  signature 27 like samsung does with their flagship
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  phones like google does with their flagship phones
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  motorola is going to put out bi -monthly updates
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  every two months every other month they're going
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  to put out a security update i know some of you
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  viewing this may not be a big deal to some of
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  y 'all it's a big deal to me it shows they don't
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  put your security at the top of the list that's
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  concerning And what about the wide foldable that
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  Motorola has yet to announce but is on the way?
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  The Motorola Razr Flex 27 appeared in two listings
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  as well. Now we got colors, we got one storage
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  variant, and we got one interesting price point.
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  So the two colors that we have, let's get those
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  out of the way. You have Pantone Corinder. and
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  dark botanical garden these freaking color names
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  are crazy now i know what some of y 'all are
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  saying oh good we got another wide fold coming
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  to the market i can't wait to get my hands on
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  this well you might want to think twice because
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  this is an interesting one as well it might not
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  be a one -to -one competitor to the z fold 8
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  and or iphone duo what am i talking about well
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  This Razer Flex 27, it only comes in one storage
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  variant. You're only getting 12 gigs of RAM,
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  only getting 256 gigs of storage, and it's going
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  to have a one -year -old CPU. Now, that's not
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  a diss because I, for one, have really enjoyed
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  the CPU that they are putting in this Razer Flex
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  27. It's the same CPU that's in the Razer Fold.
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  And in the OG Motorola signature. The Snapdragon
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  8 Gen 5. Not the Elite. The Snapdragon 8 Gen
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  5. Great CPU. No issues whatsoever. Fantastic
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  choice. It's just not the very best of the best
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  today. However, here is where the price point
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  kind of reflects what kind of device that they
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  are going to be selling to the public. This Razer
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  Flex was listed at 1 ,510 euros, which is the
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  equivalent to 1 ,680 US dollars. That's a couple
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  hundred dollars under the Samsung Galaxy Z Fold
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  8 and a few hundred dollars under the iPhone
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  Duo. And one more caveat before you say, eh.
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  I don't mind. That's okay. I'm still going to
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  be interested in this. It's not a one -to -one
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  size comparison to its competition. So we know
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  the size, obviously, of the iPhone Duo is very
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  similar, almost identical in dimensions to the
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  Z Fold 8. The interesting thing about this upcoming
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  Motorola Razr Flex is that it's going to be a
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  mini wide fold. This thing is going to be even
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  smaller, considerably smaller than its competition.
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  It's going to have a sub, which means under,
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  5 -inch outer display, and an even smaller 6
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  -inch -ish inner display. This thing is going
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  to be teeny tiny, which, hey, some of y 'all
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  might like. It's just not my cup of tea. What
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  about the cameras? so getting back to the razer
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  fold the current book style foldable that motorola
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  is selling here in the united states that has
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  a fantastic camera system in fact it has the
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  very best camera experience you can find on any
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  foldable in the united states it has the same
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  camera sensors that are on the og motorola signature
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  they just transferred that to the razer fold
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  so you might be thinking well they'll probably
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  put some of those sensors on this new razer flex
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  right yeah wrong they're not so unfortunately
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  we're getting another foldable with a shitty
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  camera experience now we don't know the specific
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  sensors and or models of sensors that are going
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  to be on this upcoming razer flex But what we
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  do know is it's not going to be the same sensors
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  that's on the Razer Fold and or the Signature.
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  So another foldable with a shitty camera experience.
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  Yay. The Signature 27 has officially been announced.
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  The Razer Flex has not been officially announced.
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  However, the Razer Flex is expected to launch
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  in December. And I think, I think. The Signature
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  27 is going to be launched in late November.
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  I'm going to hold final judgment on the pricing
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  of this Signature 27 until we get official numbers.
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  But from the looks of things, it's not good.
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  I want to know down below in the comments. Leave
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  a comment. Let everybody know what you think.
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  Motorola should price this upcoming signature.
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  Should it be way higher than its competition,
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  the S27 Ultra, the iPhone 18 Pro Max, the Pixel
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  11 Pro XL? Should they keep it right around the
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  same price? Or should Motorola undercut their
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  competition and price it lower than all other
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  models and or storage variants? Of its competition,
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  because that's what I think Motorola should do.
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  I believe Motorola should undercut its competition.
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  If you're coming to the U .S. and it's been I
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  don't even know when the last flagship Motorola
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  was that was officially launched in the U .S.
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  It's been it's been a long, long time. I think,
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  look, they're making a splash with this new signature
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  27. And I think to make that splash even bigger.
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  undercut your competition now i'm not saying
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  you know launch it at i don't know 800 bucks
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  that would you know no but around a thousand
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  bucks at the most 1200 i think you could make
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  big waves in the tech world with those price
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  tags i think here's my here's what i would like
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  to happen i would like to see in a perfect in
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  my perfect world i would like to see three storage
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  variants of this signature 27 i would like to
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  see a 12 gig 256 model i would like to see a
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  16 gig 512 model and i would like to see a 16
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  gig 1 terabyte model pricing i would like to
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  see the 12 gig 256 model come in at 899 900 bucks
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  i would like to see the 16 gig 512 model come
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  in at 11 .99 1200 bucks and i would like to see
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  the 16 gig one terabyte model come at i don't
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  know 13 .99 1400 bucks that's going to keep the
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  signature 27 cost for the consumer lower than
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  the s27 ultra at comparable storage configurations
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  and lower than the iphone 18 pro max at similar
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  storage configurations and or variants i think
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  that would do wonders uh in it if i were employed
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  by motorola i would really be pushing not necessarily
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  for those exact numbers but some are in that
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  ballpark pricing matters numbers matter if you
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  can get it underneath your competition and i'm
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  not talking about a dollar or two but potentially
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  $50 to $100 below your competition, that would
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  scream value. And in this time of day, everybody's
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  looking for value because everything seemingly
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  on this globe, prices have inflated to astronomical
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  prices. So if you put forward a product, a flagship
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  product, a premium flagship product that screams
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  value, i think you have an absolute hit on your
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  hands now i would like to see them push monthly
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  updates but that's another story we're talking
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  about prices today so let me know down below
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  in the comments what do you think the price should
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  be for the upcoming signature 2027. see you in
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  the next one