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KEN HAM: Episode 500! The Importance Of Biblical Worldview, Authority · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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defending biblical Christianity, no topic, off limits.
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And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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Friends and family in Christ, thank you so much for tuning into another episode of World
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View Matters.
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And I want to let you know, we're excited to say this is episode number 500, if you can
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believe that.
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Makes it feel like we've been doing this a lot longer than we have, but we've got a very
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special guest.
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Of course, every 100, 200, 300, 400, we like to have a special guest for these programs.
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And we've got Ken Ham with answers in Genesis, and we're so blessed to have him.
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Yeah, there's the website.
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Make sure to go to the website, answers in Genesis dot O R G. Thank you.
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You can.
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Good to see you.
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Thanks for joining us today.
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Hey, great to be with you.
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And congratulations on 500 episodes.
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That's a quite a place to get to.
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Yes, it is.
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It is.
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Didn't think we'd make it, but here we are.
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God keeps us moving.
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One thing I wanted to share about 10 years ago, maybe 11, you had a series called foundations,
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relevance of Genesis, I believe.
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That's great.
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I absolutely love it.
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At the time, I was researching for a book called The Cost of Our Silence.
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And I came across that and I had to keep watching those sessions, because it was so important.
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And one of the things that stuck out in my mind, and we're all going to talk about biblical
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worldview today, is what you mentioned going on over in Europe in the UK with churches
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shutting down, becoming bars and tattoo parlors and other businesses and the churches were.
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And you said, this is going to happen to America unless we get the church back to the
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biblical worldview.
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Could you please share your thoughts on how important that is, even now 10 years later?
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We know, when you look at what's happening in the culture, we see, you know, if you go
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back in history, the whole Western world once was permeated by, I would say, the Judeo-Christian
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Ethic.
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Now, America was much more Christianized than the rest of the Western world.
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But really, that came out of the Bible and a respect for the Bible.
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And so, even non-Christians, basically, most of them would believe marriage was a man
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and a woman, abortion was killing a human being, that gay marriage was wrong, transgender
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was wrong and so on.
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But that has definitely changed.
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And we've seen a catastrophic generational loss from the church.
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I mean, generation Z, even though some people talk about a resurgence of interest in church
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by generation Z, nonetheless, when you get back to the 1700s, you have about 75 to 80%
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of the population went to church and right now less than 5% of generation Z would attend
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Protestant churches.
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So we've seen a catastrophic generational loss from the church, which has gone hand in hand
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with the increasing secularization of the culture.
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And why is that?
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I would say, you know, 80, 85% of kids from church homes, from the statistics I've seen,
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go to public schools, which are the anti-god education system.
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And they are given the foundation of man's word.
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They're taught atheistic evolution, millions of years.
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Those who go to church have been told by the majority of their Christian leaders.
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Don't worry about Genesis.
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You don't need to believe that.
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You don't believe in millions of years evolution, just trust in Jesus, Johnny.
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But you see, here's a problem.
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Once you say that, you're saying you can't trust this part of the Bible.
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You've undermined biblical authority.
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You've added man's ideas into the Bible.
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And what's happened is those generations realize, you know, if that part of the Bible
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was not true, why is the rest true?
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And if they go and they leave the church.
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And then they build a world view consistent with the foundation they got from the world.
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And that is the foundation of man's word, which means anything goes.
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When there's no king to tell them what to do, they all do what is right in their own eyes.
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And so we see moral relativism permeating the culture.
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And those two are linked.
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The catastrophic generational loss from the church very much linked to the increasing
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secularization of our culture with moral relativism permeating.
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And it's because the majority of our Christian leaders have not taken a stand on Genesis 1 to 11.
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They've compromised with evolution millions of years.
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And there's another aspect to this.
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And that is because they haven't done that and haven't taught from that, most Christians
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I find in our churches don't know how to deal with issues of gay marriage or transgender
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or abortion.
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Because Genesis 1 to 11 actually is the foundation for everything.
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And it's the foundation for all of our doctrines.
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So first of all, to know what we believe, we have to start from Genesis 1 to 11.
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It's the foundation for marriage, for the family, for life, for why they're sinned, where
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death came from.
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I mean, every doctrine is based in Genesis 1 to 11.
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And people haven't been taught correctly how to think.
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And that is people don't understand that when you look at the clash between the absolutes
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of God's word, concerning the worldview that comes out of God's word, like marriage
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as a man and a woman, only two genders, male and female, and so on.
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And you see the clash with the secular anti-God-well view of moral relativism.
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People are fighting it at that level and then they're accused of being intolerant and
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they're accused of giving hate speech.
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Where in actual fact, the battle is actually a foundational one.
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Because ultimately there's two foundations or two religions that build your worldview.
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God's word, man's word.
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And so out of that comes two different worldviews, a biblical worldview or a secular worldview.
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But the worldview clash is actually a spiritual war.
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It's a battle between God's word and man's word.
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And sadly, many Christians don't understand that, don't know how to fight the battle because
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most churches have not taught it.
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Yes.
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And believers are not being equipped.
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Thank you for your constant stand on the authority and the inerrancy of Scripture and
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Genesis 1-11.
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I don't want to run out of time.
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Let's just go right to the end and say, what's the solution, Ken Ham?
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Because we know there's even a problem with our seminaries in America today.
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We know that some pastors are not, they're afraid of losing congregants so they're not going
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to talk about controversial issues.
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So I know it's multifaceted, but what is one of the solutions to get the body of Christ
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equipped?
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First of all, I say from a general overall perspective, when I say to people, what's
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the solution with all the problems that we have in our culture, what's going on?
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The moral relativism we've been talking about and so on.
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What is the solution?
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Well, I'm going to say something that'll shock you, David.
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So prepare to be shocked.
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Are you ready for this?
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Ready.
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The government is not the solution.
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Now, I knew you'd be shocked.
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Now, I tell people, don't get me wrong.
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There's no neutral position.
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There's no such thing as separation of church and state ultimately.
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The government is imposing a religion on the culture.
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It's either built on God's word or man's word and it's certainly the religion they're
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imposing and legislating today is not built on God's word.
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And so one of the things I say to people is we actually need more Christians in government,
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school boards, councils, who have a Christian worldview, who vote in accord with that worldview,
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because if they don't do it, the secularists will and then they'll take over, which is
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what really has happened.
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But the solution ultimately, here's what I say.
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First of all, God gave the solution right after Adam's sinned and it's never changed.
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Genesis 3.15, the solution is God's word and the same in gospel.
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That is the solution.
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But we live at a time when God's word is come under a particular attack and particularly
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the first 11 chapters, the history that's foundational to everything has come under incredible
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attack.
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And so we need to make sure that in our churches we're equipping people with apologetics
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to be able to defend the Christian faith, who know what the attacks of today are going
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to be, who raise up their children equipped with those answers and we need to be teaching
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them to think foundationally and that is to understand you don't add the Bible to
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you thinking, the Bible is a revelation from God who knows everything.
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And you know, this book is a revelation from one who is head all the treasures of wisdom
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and knowledge.
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He is infinite knowledge and wisdom compared to us.
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I mean, we know nothing compared to God.
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And he's revealed to us what we need to know in the first 11 chapters of the history
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and geology, biology, astronomy, anthropology, that's foundational to the rest of the Bible,
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we'll add doctrine to a biblical worldview to the gospel to everything.
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We have to start from here and know why we believe what we do, we build our thinking
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on the Bible.
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And to understand sectorists, non-Christian start from man's word, they don't start from
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out here in the atmosphere, they don't start from the evidence out, they start from man's
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word, no God, evolution and so on, they have a different worldview.
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So once we teach them the right way to think, how others think and then equip them with
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answers, then they will be able to go out there and be a witness to challenge people
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concerning the truth of God's word and point them to the gospel message.
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To share with others why we believe what we believe.
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I want to ask you about a book that you wrote.
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I believe it came out last year defending God's existence.
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I think that's your most recent, if I'm not mistaken, an important book, there it is.
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Yes.
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It's a book.
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What is it?
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What is it?
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First Peter 315?
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Always be ready to give an answer to those who may ask for the reason for the hope that
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you have.
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Go ahead and share a little bit about that book, Ken.
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Yeah.
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This book, the way I describe it to people, I say if you want to be like a Charlie Kirk, but
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only at a higher level and know how to really defend the faith, how to point out inconsistencies
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and others, how to point out logical fallacies, how to think foundationally and argue foundationally,
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how to correctly understand evidence, how to interpret evidence, then that's the book
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for you.
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I don't know of any other book like it out there because this book is really teaching
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you philosophically the right way to think how non-Christian thinks, therefore the right
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way to argue and to be able to point out those inconsistencies.
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Even things as simple as when someone says, I don't believe in absolutes, well, are they
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absolutely sure about that because then that just made an absolute.
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When someone says, I don't believe in truth, well, then is that a true statement?
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How could that be a true statement?
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Even things simple like that, but there's much, much more to it than that.
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But a non-Christian has to borrow from a Christian worldview daily and you need to learn how
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to point that out.
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When somebody says something is good or who defines what is good, is that your opinion?
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Is that somebody else's opinion?
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Who is your authority to determine what you believe?
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Is it yourself?
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Is that an arbitrary authority?
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We have an authority, the absolute authority of God's Word.
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When people accuse you as a Christian, they accuse me of circular reasoning.
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They say, oh, you start with the Bible and then you go to the evidence and then you say,
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what we see out there confirms the Bible's history, isn't that circular reasoning?
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Well, all reasoning is circular, right?
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And there's really two main circles, if you like.
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You start from God's Word or man's Word, the point is, is the circle real?
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Does it exist?
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And because we start with God's Word, which is an absolute authority, not an arbitrary
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authority, that's the real circle, so to speak.
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And that's what we need to understand.
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So Ken, there's a lot of people going to church now that weren't going before the assassination
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of Charlie Kirk.
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There's a lot in Gen Z that are more open to spiritual things.
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They're more open to maybe God, but what kind of churches are they going to?
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Are they reading the Bible?
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There's a lot of questions.
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I mean, people are being a little bit optimistic in the church about maybe a little
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many revival because of what happened.
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But yeah, more people are maybe interested and maybe thinking about their lives, thinking
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about God, but if they're not going to the foundation of the inherent Word of God and
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starting there, or going to the right church, and that's now a remnant, a minority of churches
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in America, they're not going to get what they need.
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Your thoughts on that?
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Well, David, I don't know if I'm going to get into trouble for saying this, right?
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If I say a name or a name of a church, well, let me put it this way.
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I was watching Fox News and they were going to do this article because I heard them advertise.
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There was going to be a special item on the biggest church in America and how Gen Z are
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flocking to the biggest church in America.
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And I thought, okay, I think I know what this will be.
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And sure enough, it was the church in Texas and the pastor is Joel Osteen.
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And they showed all these thousands of people packed in there.
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And of course, they interviewed various people.
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And all I ever heard was things about positive thinking and giving you a positive attitude
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in life.
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That's life now.
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I don't hear any teaching on the Bible as history and the foundation for everything and
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about sin and repentance.
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And I don't know, maybe there's some teaching on that, but it's interesting when they interviewed
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these people, to me, it seemed like they're all saying we're enjoying the experience.
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We enjoy coming together and so on.
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And I think that that's what's happened in a lot of churches today.
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A lot of churches have grown, not because they're teaching God's Word, but because what
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I've seen is more and more in our modern era.
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A lot of churches try to make the church look more like the world to attract people rather
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than teach God's Word that can fix and equip them and give them answers and show them
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we can defend our faith.
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That's what we need to do.
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Now, there are some big churches that are standing on God's Word and doing that.
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I think of even people like Jack Hibb's out in California, and there's many others as
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well, and that there's some great Christian leaders who are doing that, like Heidi St. John
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and many others that we're very familiar with, but the majority of churches and Christian
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leaders are not standing on God's Word as they should, not teaching what they should,
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and it's a very shallow surface churchyality I would call it.
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It's interesting at the Arkin County, we have the two leading Christian themed attractions
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in the world, the Arkin County of the Creation Museum here in Northern Kentucky, and at
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the Arkin County, we run conferences through the year.
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We just had our men's conference.
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It was totally packed.
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We did a women's conference in April, and again this year, we have to do two of them
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because so many people coming, and we do a homeschool conference, and so it goes on
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in a past as conference.
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But do you know what we hear over and over again?
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We're tired of the shallow stuff.
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We're tired of the experiential stuff.
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We love to come and get them meet, and that's what we make sure.
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All our speakers are teaching in-depth, but we're teaching apologetics.
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We're teaching them how to stand in God's Word.
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We're teaching them to be bold, we're equipping them for the world that they live in, and we
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will not compromise God's Word right from the very beginning.
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Praise God.
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This is Ken Ham, author of Defending God's Existence Answers in Genesis.org.
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Also, friends, I'm blessed to be right next to him over at harbingers.tv.
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Harbingers daily, the biblical news site, they put out a great video site as well.
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So, right over there, harbingers.tv, if you scroll down, left hand calm, there's Barry
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Stagdor, there's Ken Ham, and who's that fiery azo guy?
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That's just such a blessing to be among these great men of God.
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But when we come back, very short break, we're going to talk about the fact that by the
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year 2030, just four years from now, the number of deaths is expected to exceed the number
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of births?
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So friends, you can find this article over at answers and genesis, be fruitful and multiply,
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question mark, US deaths, expected to exceed births.
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You know, some years ago, just hearing the year 2030 that seemed like such a long ways
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off.
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And here we are, four years away, this goes back to the Christian responsibility to raise
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not only a godly family, but to have kids, be blessed, be fruitful and multiply, go ahead
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and share your thoughts and your concerns on this.
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Yeah, you know, right back at the beginning when God made the first marriage and that's
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Adam and Eve, of course, one man for one woman and then told him to be fruitful and multiply.
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And so the family is the first and most fundamental of all human institutions which God ordained
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in Scripture.
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And the family is a unit God uses to transfer their spiritual legacy from one generation
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to the next and to impact the world around, impact people around for the Lord Jesus Christ.
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It's interesting.
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We should have Malachi 2, Malachi 2, 15, you know, where the Israelite men were divorcing
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their wives, marrying pagans.
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And so God through the prophet asked the question, why did God make 2, 1?
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And it's really a reference back to the one flesh that God made Eve from Adam and you
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become one because you're one flesh, genesis 2, 24.
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And Jesus quotes that in Matthew 19 and Paul does in Ephesians 5.
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And so the prophet asked the questions, why did God make 2, why did he make 2, 1?
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And his answer was because he sought godly offspring, by the way, not just offspring,
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but godly offspring.
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In other words, one of the primary importance of marriage of the family is to produce godly
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offspring generation after generation.
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And when you look at those sort of statistics, you know, let me say something about the secular
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world, first of all, the secular world is bemoaning the birth rates that have dropped
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and what's happening then to our culture and concerned about the future, but wait a minute.
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How many millions a year are they killing by abortion?
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I mean, here they are bemoaning the drop in birth rate and yet they're killing baby's
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children by abortion and think nothing of it.
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That's first thing we need to think about.
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And then there seems to be a fear amongst a lot of young people today about having children.
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And you know, some of that fear is because of what's happening in the culture and they're
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listening to the secularist anti-god worldview, say concerning climate change.
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I've had people say to me, I don't want to bring children in the world because we're
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destroying the world it is is look at the climate change and all the rest of it.
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But see, the whole climate change religion and it is, it's an anti-god religion and it's
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based on evolutionary assumptions, it's based on atheistic assumptions.
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You know, if you look at the Bible and people say to me, do you believe in climate change?
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I was absolutely, there's been climate change ever since the flood, the flood caused massive
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climate change and it generated an ice age that caused massive climate change.
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And if you don't believe the Bible's timeline and don't believe the Bible's events of history,
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you won't understand climate change does happen that it can happen catastrophically, things
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can change quickly, they can change back quickly.
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It's because we live in a fallen world and I've got news for people.
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There's going to be climate change until Jesus comes again.
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And then there's the big climate change we all need to worry about when he judges everything
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with fire and everything will be burned up with fire.
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So that's the climate change we should be really concerned about.
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So there's a number of issues.
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The other one is that, you know, statistics show a large percentage of women in churches
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and many churches have been somehow or another either supporting or involved in abortion.
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And this is just shocking and it's very, very sad, but there's not enough teaching
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from our pulpits concerning taking the right stand on this.
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I mean, the Bible makes it very clear we're made in the image of God and we know life
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begins at fertilization.
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We know Psalm 139 says that when God knitted us together at our mother's womb,
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before when he looked at our unformed substance,
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so even when our bodies hadn't formed and the fertilized egg was building our bodies,
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it's still you or think of what he said about, you know, Jeremiah,
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before you're formed in your mother's womb, I knew you.
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Right from fertilization, we are human beings made in the image of God.
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And therefore abortion is killing a human being right from fertilization.
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Now, that has to be a foundational principle for our world view.
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And it needs to be taught in our churches and we need to be teaching our children
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so they got the right foundation.
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As I, you know what I say, I say abortion is really child sacrifice to the God of self.
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I mean, that's really what it is.
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And so even there are even Christians who are boarding children
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and they're using excuses like, well, they didn't have enough money or well,
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I was worried about bringing them into the world.
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You can't negate God's principles.
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A foundational principle that life begins at fertilization.
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Do we have a right to deliberately kill a human being made in the image of God?
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That's what we should be asking ourselves.
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But we, you know what, there's also young people today.
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I find a saying, you know, we don't really even want to get married.
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We're going to put it off for a long time.
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I'm going to put my career first before family.
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Well, I believe that, yeah, I'm not saying a woman should never career or man should never career.
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But you know what, there's only a certain time in this fallen world
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that you're able to have children.
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And to me, that's one of the priorities of marriage.
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So we should be putting family first.
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Yep. In this article, Ken, you write,
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ideology has consequences in the anti-natal views of the current cultural climate
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that elevates personal autonomy and freedom
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while devaluing the beauty and gift of family and children certainly have consequences.
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It also says in a biblical worldview, children are a blessing.
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But it was right along lines with what's happening.
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In another article, you have, it's a new report that one in seven Christian universities.
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Christian, now you might have to put Christian and air quotes here.
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But one in seven Christian universities support abortion industry.
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This is not the biblical worldview,
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and yet these universities that are talked about in that article are calling themselves Christian.
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There's a little confusion going on there, isn't there Ken?
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Well, there certainly is, but let me say this.
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I would be prepared to basically guarantee that those universities
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that call themselves Christian that support abortion do not take a stand on a literal genesis.
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Because what I found is once you're prepared to take that stand on a literal genesis,
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letting God speak to you through His Word,
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He made everything six literal days, death came after sin,
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and so on. You believe that history, which is foundational to everything,
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you're not going to compromise with abortion or with gay marriage or anything else.
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And it's sad, there are thousands of Christian colleges, universities in America.
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And each year we run at the Arkin counter, a creation college where we allow high school students
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to come in, register free, and we bring in those colleges and universities
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that do take the same stand we do on Genesis 1 to 11.
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You know how many there are? It's like 35 or 40.
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It's hardly any.
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And one of the sad things is the majority of Christian colleges and Bible colleges,
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not all, but certainly the majority do not stand on Genesis 1 to 11 as a literal history,
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which is why the majority of the students who go through there end up walking away from the church
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and why they compromise with these sad issues of the day,
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these social issues of the day.
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Yep, so we're seeing the consequences of this rotten fruit
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of not teaching the whole Council of God starting in Genesis
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and the authority of Scripture. But one more thing, we've got two minutes left with you,
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Ken, in the 1950s and 60s, and this is a consequence,
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it was very important for 70 to 75% of US adults to go to church
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or to have a religion, basically Christian religion was understood back then.
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But now it's less than 50% of Americans that consider religion to be very important.
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So we see that decline going down along with the biblical literacy declining.
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So these are all things happening at the same time.
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Your closing thoughts to encourage maybe a young Christian family,
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young Christian parents, Ken?
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Well, you know, the admonition from the Lord is that we are to raise godly offspring
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and I encourage people to make sure that they recognize that there's nothing more important
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than that your children know Christ. Paul says that very clearly in God's word,
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that everything he counts as basically useless
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or everything is done, so to speak, compared to trusting Christ.
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And the most important thing, the priority for us as parents has to be our children
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and to do all we can and fathers need to be the head of the house
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and wives need to be the help me to their husbands to be that spiritual head
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to lead them, to teach them in the things of God.
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Yes, amen, brother.
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My friends, check out Ken's latest book, Defending God's Existence.
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And again, if you don't know the website and I hope you do, answers in Genesis.org.
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Kenham, God bless your ministry.
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May it continue to enlarge and territory.
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Thank you so much for your time today, sir.
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Hey, thank you. It's been a pleasure.
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All right.
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Thank, friends. Thank you for sharing the podcast and keeping us going with your prayers
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and support. God bless you.
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And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.
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See you next time.