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'Covid' Ants Coming To A Town Near YOU! | Sarah McGuire · Chris Thrall's Bought the T-Shirt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello friends, I'm your host, christrou I'm a former Brawleries commando.
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Speaker 1: I've adventured for better and sometimes worse, across eighty countries
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Speaker 1: on all seven continents. Welcome to the Port the t
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Speaker 1: Shirt podcast. Hello legends. So today we've got a guest
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Speaker 1: all the way from down Under and they've got something
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Speaker 1: of a problem down there.
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Speaker 2: Just have a look at this in Baringa on Monday
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Speaker 2: and we're quickly eradicated with an injection. Workers at the
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Speaker 2: Invasive Species Council say the recentness was reported by a
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Speaker 2: landscaper on a private property.
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Speaker 3: This is very close to nessa were discovered last year
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Speaker 3: at Narimber.
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Speaker 2: It's the fifth time this year fire ants have been
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Speaker 2: detected on the Sunshine Coast and it's worrying experts. Invasive
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Speaker 2: Species Council manager Reese Penta says we could face a
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Speaker 2: major problem.
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Speaker 1: So as usual, is it the answer that's the problem
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Speaker 1: or is it the humans. Let's get into it. Sarah, Hello, Hi,
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Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. No, absolutely my pleasure. I
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Speaker 1: think we've got Aaron to thank for connecting us up,
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Speaker 1: haven't we.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, it's been good.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Aaron's got He's brought a few guests to the show,
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Speaker 1: and he's what can you say, He's a justice warrior,
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Speaker 1: and so when he talked about this fire ant issue
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Speaker 1: in Australia, I thought, yes, okay, this sounds fascinating, but
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Speaker 1: for all the wrong reasons. So tell us what it's
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Speaker 1: all about, Sarah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, for me, I mean, obviously, we've come out
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Speaker 3: of COVID, where Australia was one of the most heavily
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Speaker 3: lockdown countries in the world. And then you know, we
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Speaker 3: think our life is getting back to normal and sorry,
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Speaker 3: my dog's just coming. We think we're getting back to normal,
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Speaker 3: and next minute I'm getting this letter in my mailbox saying, oh,
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Speaker 3: we're coming to your property and we're going to be
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Speaker 3: putting poisons all over it. This is from the government
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Speaker 3: and we don't need your consent. And as soon as
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Speaker 3: I saw they don't need my consent, I just thought,
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Speaker 3: what what's going on in We don't even have fire ants.
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Speaker 3: I've never even seen a fire ance. So it just
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Speaker 3: stunk of COVID all over again, in that you know,
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Speaker 3: they want to do some preventative or prophylactic baiting or
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Speaker 3: treatment like what they did with the vaccines in next minute,
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Speaker 3: you know, now our properties are under attack. But this
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Speaker 3: time we couldn't even say no. So that just raised
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Speaker 3: some massive red flags for me, and I started asking
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Speaker 3: around to various groups, children's health defense, you know, are
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Speaker 3: you helping, you know, are you getting involved in this,
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Speaker 3: you know, this issue in Queensland at the moment, and
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Speaker 3: no one was. So I formed a group called fire
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Speaker 3: Ant Treatment Alternatives because well, first of all, we don't
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Speaker 3: even have fire ants, but if we did have fire ants,
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Speaker 3: we shouldn't just be doused in chemicals. And what I
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Speaker 3: found out was they wanted to come to every single
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Speaker 3: private property in southeast Queensland. We're talking eight hundred and
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Speaker 3: eighty thousand hectares of land, which is over two million acres,
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Speaker 3: and they want to cover it six times with these pesticides,
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Speaker 3: even if you don't have fire ants. And I just
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Speaker 3: thought this, this is really really wrong. And then so
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Speaker 3: the first thing we did was say, were are the
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Speaker 3: environmental risk assessments to prove that this is safe for
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Speaker 3: our environment? And there's not been nothing done. They've just gone,
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Speaker 3: oh no, but Queensland, we've got fire ants here and
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Speaker 3: we need to eradicate them. We need to eradicate them.
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Speaker 3: So then I started doing some research and going, well,
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Speaker 3: what's the evidence that they're eradicating fire ants? And all
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Speaker 3: I found that in twenty four years, these ants have
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Speaker 3: been in Australia for twenty four years, They've spent a
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Speaker 3: billion dollars of taxpayers money and the ants are twenty
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Speaker 3: times worse. So there's no evidence that they're even reducing
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Speaker 3: fire ants. But for me personally, after I got those notices,
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Speaker 3: I then a couple of months later, I woke up
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Speaker 3: on a Sunday morning. It was seven point thirty in
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Speaker 3: the morning and all these helicopters are swooping around the
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Speaker 3: peaceful valley that I live in, a fairly peaceful area.
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Speaker 3: It's a beautiful valley here and these there's three helicopters
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Speaker 3: just swooping that was in fours. It was like we
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Speaker 3: were under attack and there was all this stuff coming
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Speaker 3: out of them, and some of it was landing on
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Speaker 3: people's heads. It was going on people's rooftops and people
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Speaker 3: here collect a lot of water for their drinking water
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Speaker 3: from their roots. It was going in the creeks in
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Speaker 3: the waterways. It was looking all the farm animals and
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Speaker 3: people were just going what's going on. So I'd already got,
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Speaker 3: you know, seen the form saying they were coming here.
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Speaker 3: So I said, right, let's go checking up the creeks
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Speaker 3: where these choppers were flying. And next minute there's all
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Speaker 3: these little corn grits all over the waterway, in the water,
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Speaker 3: on the rocks, and we're like, what is this stuff?
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Speaker 3: And then we realized this is the pesticides they're using.
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Speaker 3: It's like genetically modified corn grits soaked in genetically modified
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Speaker 3: soybean oil, then infused with pesticides, and they're just spraying
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Speaker 3: it all over us like we're cockroaches here. And then
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Speaker 3: so we a few of us took water samples sent
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Speaker 3: them off for independent tests. But in the meantime, the
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Speaker 3: government came to my local area and did a meeting
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Speaker 3: to tell us what they're doing and how amazing this
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Speaker 3: program is. And then they said, oh, we're sorry, Samford,
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Speaker 3: which is the area I live in, We've accidentally chemicals
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Speaker 3: in your creeks and waterways because our pilot made a
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Speaker 3: mistake and didn't realize there was running waterways there, even
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Speaker 3: though one of them was the main river that goes
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Speaker 3: through here. And they only admitted it because they realized
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Speaker 3: we've gone and got water samples. But they've done this everywhere.
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Speaker 3: They've done this all around Queensland. But it's only because
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Speaker 3: we caught them out and they had to report themselves
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Speaker 3: to the regulator. They've been fined twenty thousand dollars by
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Speaker 3: the Environmental Department here and so we've because of that,
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Speaker 3: lawyers have wanted to help us out because we've got
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Speaker 3: evidence that they breached the Environmental Protection Act. But what
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Speaker 3: it's showing is there's a much bigger problem here in
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Speaker 3: that we're just we have no rights over our properties here.
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Speaker 1: So I think the bigger problem, Sarah, is called human stupidity.
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Speaker 1: We saw this. You called it the sea word. I
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Speaker 1: don't give it that grace. I just call it the scam,
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Speaker 1: which is what it is. This is a great opportunity
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Speaker 1: to make people aware of what is. You know, we
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Speaker 1: might not have fire ants in the UK. I'm not
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Speaker 1: even sure if we do, or I won't pretend that.
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Speaker 3: But no, they're not in the UK at the moment,
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Speaker 3: and look, maybe they won't because they need a warm
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Speaker 3: climate because they're originally from South America and they've came
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Speaker 3: in through the ports and they've since been in USA.
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Speaker 3: They're in China, and the USA tried to poison everything
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Speaker 3: and they ended up killing bees all the other insects
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Speaker 3: doing what we're doing, although they use a different insecticide,
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Speaker 3: but they still mass blanketed everything with pesticides. And what
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Speaker 3: they found is they killed all the native ants and
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Speaker 3: all the native insects that are predators of these fire ants.
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Speaker 3: And so what they're doing at the moment, they're just
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Speaker 3: repeating history, which is and I think what happened in
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Speaker 3: America's they realized it was big business. It was big
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Speaker 3: business for the chemical companies. I mean, the amount of
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Speaker 3: chemicals that they're using is insane. And there's a lot
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Speaker 3: of corruptness going on. I mean, since I've done a
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Speaker 3: lot of research on this, it is so corrupt. The
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Speaker 3: politicians don't want to know. We've tried to speak to
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Speaker 3: them and say, look, you know, can you help us here.
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Speaker 3: You're doing something wrong, you know, and they're like, nothing
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Speaker 3: to see here. They've invested another half a billion dollars
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Speaker 3: into this program now in Queensland, and we've realized it's
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Speaker 3: all about the money. The Queensland government runs this corrupt program,
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Speaker 3: but they get all their funding from the federal and
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Speaker 3: the other states, but only if they call it eradication.
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Speaker 3: So they've created this nonsense scene where they think they're
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Speaker 3: going to draw a line around Brisbane and come on
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Speaker 3: in and then they're going to kill and they're going
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Speaker 3: to poison us six times. This is six times. And
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Speaker 3: the thing is, in the short time they've been doing
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Speaker 3: it in my air, we've got people with skin reactions,
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Speaker 3: respiratory issues, dogs were dying, bees are dying, birds are dead.
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Speaker 3: And because we don't have any fire ants, because the
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Speaker 3: whole programs are a load of nonsense, it's killing our
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Speaker 3: native ants. But they've somehow got some scientists have managed
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Speaker 3: to sign off on this crazy idea and we're just
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Speaker 3: here in Australia at the moment. Go and help us,
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Speaker 3: because we're being you know, we're being carpet bombed with
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Speaker 3: toxic chemicals like we're cockroaches and we're I'm sort of
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Speaker 3: we're humans, you know. We I've got children. I've got
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Speaker 3: like a nine year old daughter and a teenage son,
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Speaker 3: and children absorb these chemicals much more quicker than adults,
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Speaker 3: and they're very toxic to children. And so our children
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Speaker 3: are having no choice about this you know, they're they're
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Speaker 3: playing in the creeks where these chemicals are dropped, and
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Speaker 3: it's just it's just criminal. It's absolutely criminal. And I
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Speaker 3: can't believe we live in a country that's allowing this
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Speaker 3: to happen. And it's all because of these biosecurity acts
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Speaker 3: that they brought in, you know, like ten years ago
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Speaker 3: or so, and then since then we've had the COVID scam.
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Speaker 3: Like you say, I believe that that.
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Speaker 1: Was just we kind of limited what we can say
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Speaker 1: about that on this platform, unfortunately, Sarah. But but everyone
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Speaker 1: gets it. You don't need to, you know, we get it.
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Speaker 1: Are you Are you familiar with gaia theory.
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Speaker 3: I haven't.
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Speaker 1: It's not it's nothing, it's no biggie, but it's basically
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Speaker 1: in the olden times, times of control. Well we're still controlled,
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Speaker 1: but people used to think that everything was separate. So
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Speaker 1: you're separate from me, you know, we're this kind of
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Speaker 1: you know, it's all important being and and that the rock,
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Speaker 1: that rock is a rock, and that bird is a bird,
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Speaker 1: and the sea is the sea. And of course, the
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Speaker 1: more progressive understanding of all this is no, there is
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Speaker 1: one system. It's called the universe. Everything interacts with everything else.
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Speaker 1: So we're silly. Example, we are not this independent being
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Speaker 1: because I'm connected to that tree over there, simply because
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Speaker 1: I'm breathing out air that tree is breathing. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm breathing out was it carbon dioxide? That tree there
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Speaker 1: is breathing it in for me, and then it's breathing
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Speaker 1: back out air, air or oxygen. It's everything is independent.
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Speaker 1: So this old school way of thinking that, oh, we
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Speaker 1: can just eradicate all of this and there's no repercussions.
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Speaker 1: It's they're just playing on human beings, naivety, an understanding,
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Speaker 1: and what's the most important fauna? And for it's the
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Speaker 1: small stuff, isn't it. It's the small stuff? And well the.
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Speaker 3: Answer pollinators, you know, they pollinate like bees. And I mean,
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Speaker 3: I've lived in Australia for twenty years now, and when
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Speaker 3: I first arrived here twenty years ago, used to drive
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Speaker 3: around and your car window would be splattered with insects
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Speaker 3: and moths, and you know, used to have to put
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Speaker 3: grills on your radiators because it would fill up with insects.
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Speaker 3: And every petrol station used to have you know, washers
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Speaker 3: for windows because our windscreens would be covered in insects,
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Speaker 3: and in the last twenty years, especially in the last
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Speaker 3: ten years, hardly anything. I've literally got one moth that's
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Speaker 3: been on my windscreen from two weeks ago, and it's
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Speaker 3: there's no where are the insects gone. This is really
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Speaker 3: frightening because we need insects to pollinate our food and
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Speaker 3: grow food, and and so it feels like there's an
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Speaker 3: agenda at the moment to poison all of us, poison
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Speaker 3: the soil, Like these chemicals are. The one they put
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Speaker 3: in our creek is called period proxyfin, and it's very
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Speaker 3: toxic when it goes into when it breaks down into
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Speaker 3: the soil, and they're just spreading it. And do you
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Speaker 3: know what, They've even changed the organic certification to allow this,
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Speaker 3: so they can go to an organic farm and spray
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Speaker 3: these chemicals and then within three weeks you can harvest
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Speaker 3: the produce and call it organic, whereas international standards like
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Speaker 3: the UK will not accept this chemical for twelve months
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Speaker 3: on organic farms. So in Australia we're like getting like,
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Speaker 3: you know, we don't even we're not even privy to
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Speaker 3: international standards anymore, like and so we can't even export
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Speaker 3: our food internationally. If it's being treated with this fire
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Speaker 3: and poison. So I don't under Yeah, it's quite frightening,
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Speaker 3: to be honest with you. I don't even want to
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Speaker 3: live here anymore.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, so Sarah, just some statistics for our friends
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Speaker 1: out there. So this eradication program has been running for
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Speaker 1: twenty three years with a one point two billion budget,
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Speaker 1: one point two billion dollar budget, and yet fire ants
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Speaker 1: now are twenty times more widespread.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not even just in Queensland anymore. They're
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Speaker 3: in Byron Bay, which is New South Wales. They're up
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Speaker 3: as far as the Sunshine Coast, which is way outside
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Speaker 3: of this area. They're as far west as a place
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Speaker 3: called ok. I don't know, people might remember that from
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Speaker 3: neighbors many years ago. There was a guy from OK.
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Speaker 3: But you know, these ants they've bolted. The horse has bolted.
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Speaker 3: And yet this government is just trying to say, you know,
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Speaker 3: we're eradicating, we're eradicating. But like I said, they're doing
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Speaker 3: it to get the money. We've proven that. And they
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Speaker 3: even had a whistle blower. A lady called Dr Pam Sweapson.
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Speaker 3: She worked for the program, and she blewed a whistle.
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Speaker 3: She reported them to the Crime and Conduct Commission or
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Speaker 3: can't crime corruption, whatever it's called. And she made a
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Speaker 3: personal disclosure statement or something that said this program is
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Speaker 3: lying and this was like almost twenty years ago she
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Speaker 3: did this, and yet it's been like just rolling, rolling, rolling,
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Speaker 3: And the problem is is now they've grown so much
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Speaker 3: they're affecting all these areas that don't have fire ants,
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Speaker 3: so like the Gold Coast and where I live, which
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Speaker 3: is Norse of Brisbane. It's ridiculous, like we've never even
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Speaker 3: seen a fire ant, and yet we're having to have
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Speaker 3: these poisons put on our properties six times without our consent,
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Speaker 3: and if you don't consent, they arrest you and put
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Speaker 3: you in handcuffs.
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Speaker 1: And that's what sorry, Sad, I just wanted to say.
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Speaker 1: And how an Australia learn by your invasive species which
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Speaker 1: are decimated. You've got there's some quite interesting I think
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Speaker 1: camels are an invasive species, aren't they? And the cane
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Speaker 1: toad which is decimating natural populations.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because they brought in the cane toads to
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Speaker 3: get rid of I think it was the cane bee
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Speaker 3: tour or there was another inset that was invasive, so
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Speaker 3: they brought in the cane toads to kill that. But
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Speaker 3: then the cane toad became a problem. And I guess
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Speaker 3: the problem with fyrance is they don't have natural predators
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Speaker 3: here is such other than other native ants compete with them.
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Speaker 3: But these baits that these poisons that they put out
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Speaker 3: they kill native ants as well. But they're lying to
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Speaker 3: people and saying, oh, no, no, they only target fire ants.
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Speaker 3: But we know for a fact they don't. They've got
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Speaker 3: these chemicals that they use for our black ants and
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Speaker 3: our ball ants. But you know, the crazy thing is right,
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Speaker 3: Australia is filled with scary, bitey things. You know, ever
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Speaker 3: since I've lived here. We've got brown snakes. We've got taipans,
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Speaker 3: the most top you know, poisonous snakes in the world.
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Speaker 3: We've got red backed spiders, we got paper wasps that
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Speaker 3: sting and really hurt you. And we've got jack jumping ants.
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Speaker 3: They've killed three people in Tasmania, the jack jumping ants.
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Speaker 3: So I say to the program, how many fire ants
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Speaker 3: have killed people if they've been here twenty three years?
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Speaker 3: And they're like, no, no one has died from a
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Speaker 3: fire ant. And yet some areas are really heavily infested
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Speaker 3: and then they try to scare people and say, oh,
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Speaker 3: but eighty five people have died from fire ants in Australia.
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Speaker 3: And then I'm like, so, how long have fire ants
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Speaker 3: been in sorry, in America. And they've been in America
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Speaker 3: for one hundred years, and in one hundred years, eighty
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Speaker 3: five people have died. So you've got more chance of
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Speaker 3: being struck by lightning than dying from a fire ant bite.
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Speaker 3: And then I said, well, what's the statistic for you know,
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Speaker 3: how many bees kill people a year? And on average,
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Speaker 3: the CDC says seventy five people a year in America
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Speaker 3: die from beastings and less than one a year have
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Speaker 3: died from firance. So I keep trying to say to people,
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Speaker 3: calm down, just put it into perspective. These fire ants
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Speaker 3: are not going to kill us all, even though they're
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Speaker 3: trying to say they're going to kill six Australians a year.
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Speaker 3: I don't know where they're getting those statistics from, but
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Speaker 3: it's a little bit like that modeling they did a
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Speaker 3: few years ago, you know, when they model that this
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Speaker 3: is going to happen if we don't do certain things,
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Speaker 3: and but yeah, this modeling is very I don't know
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Speaker 3: that the numbers don't add up to me. So and
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Speaker 3: I'm going chartered accountant as well. So I've looked at
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Speaker 3: the numbers, I've looked at the figures. I've looked at
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Speaker 3: the data, and like I said, none of it makes sense.
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Speaker 3: And i have to speak out. I'm not normally somebody
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Speaker 3: that likes to speak out. I've never had a public
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Speaker 3: profile before all this. I've always been very quiet on
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Speaker 3: social media. But I just can't sit sit quiet anymore
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Speaker 3: and watch this happen Sarah.
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Speaker 1: Just to clarify for us, then what what are they
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Speaker 1: saying the dangers are? And what are the dangers and
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Speaker 1: then obviously we can come on and look at alternative
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Speaker 1: ways of managing them.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean at fire ants are They're not. They're
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Speaker 3: a difficult ant. They're not your normal type of ant
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Speaker 3: that you know, if you poke a fire ant nest,
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Speaker 3: they do swarm, like hundreds of them come out all
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Speaker 3: in one go. Because I actually went to see an
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Speaker 3: ant nest recent I had to go all the way
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Speaker 3: to Logan, which was an hour's drive from where I
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Speaker 3: live to find a fire ant nest. But I wanted
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Speaker 3: to go and see them for myself and I actually
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Speaker 3: got bitten by quite a few ants. Because they try
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Speaker 3: to say, oh, if you get bitten, they've got people,
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Speaker 3: They've got pictures that people covered in like these blisters,
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Speaker 3: these pustures, because I think some people react fire ant bites.
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Speaker 3: But it's like if you're anaphylactic to beastings or other insects.
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Speaker 3: So I got a bit and I didn't get anything.
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Speaker 3: It was no, the pain wasn't even like they keep
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Speaker 3: saying it's like burning fire. No, that's absolute rubbish. It's
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Speaker 3: it was no different to a normal ant bite. I'd
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Speaker 3: say a paper wasp is quite well. And there's a
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Speaker 3: pain scale done by some guy years ago called the
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Speaker 3: Schmidt pain scale, and fire ants are really low down
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Speaker 3: on the pain threshold for bites. So but what the
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Speaker 3: government is doing is they're spreading is propaganda that these
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Speaker 3: ants are going to bite our babies, and they're going
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Speaker 3: to kill our dogs, and they're gonna kill our livestock.
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Speaker 3: And look, I mean, if a calf or a lamb
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Speaker 3: is born on top of a fire ant nest, they
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Speaker 3: probably won't survive because, like I said, these ants will
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Speaker 3: swarm and bite, but only if they feel under attack.
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Speaker 3: So you can walk past. I went to this property.
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Speaker 3: I had four hundred fire ant nests in this paddock
21:01
Speaker 3: and we're just walking around with you know, just flip
21:04
Speaker 3: flops on and I'm expecting, like, oh, we're going to
21:07
Speaker 3: get bitter, and they're like no, no, no. They only
21:09
Speaker 3: come out if you kick the nest or you disturb them.
21:11
Speaker 3: So they're very They kind of like to be left alone.
21:15
Speaker 3: And look, I know that they've done some modeling that
21:18
Speaker 3: says they're going to affect certain agriculture crops, and they're
21:22
Speaker 3: going to affect the farming industry, and they can get
21:26
Speaker 3: into electrical boxes. And look, I know they're not They're
21:30
Speaker 3: not great creatures to have, and I would prefer to
21:33
Speaker 3: not have them in this country. But the fact is
21:36
Speaker 3: they're here to stay, and it doesn't matter how much
21:39
Speaker 3: poisoning we do or how much Like I think one
21:43
Speaker 3: of my comments was, you could nuke the whole of
21:45
Speaker 3: Queensland and these fire ants will still be here because
21:48
Speaker 3: they are. Their name is Soloknopsis invictus, which means invincible.
21:52
Speaker 3: They are invincible. They can even raft in floods, so
21:56
Speaker 3: if they get flooded, they join in these rafts and
21:59
Speaker 3: just float down the river until they find another place
22:02
Speaker 3: to nest, and they are pretty sorry. My daughter's my
22:05
Speaker 3: dog opened the door and I can hear my daughter.
22:10
Speaker 3: Can I shut the door? Mint it? Yeah, go for it. Sorry,
22:20
Speaker 3: my daughter is playing and I can hear her.
22:24
Speaker 1: Yes. So what what about damage to property? Is there?
22:29
Speaker 1: You know, there's the termite thing, isn't there in some
22:32
Speaker 1: countries where the termites can eat away your foundations and
22:37
Speaker 1: especially where there's wooden houses. Is that an issue?
22:42
Speaker 3: Look, we do have termites here and every time you're.
22:45
Speaker 1: With the fire ants, is that an issue?
22:47
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, no, But they're not like termites. No, they
22:49
Speaker 3: don't live in the wood or they don't destroy houses.
22:53
Speaker 3: I think they can get into electrical boxes and they
22:56
Speaker 3: can mess up some wiring. But I mean, you know,
23:01
Speaker 3: I personally don't have a problem. If I had a
23:03
Speaker 3: fire ant nest on my property, I would probably try
23:06
Speaker 3: to deal with it and kill it. My first step
23:09
Speaker 3: would be to use hot boiling water, because boiling water
23:12
Speaker 3: kills or ants. The issue with fire ants is they
23:17
Speaker 3: can nest very deep in the ground. The queen ants can.
23:21
Speaker 3: But there's a professor in America called Professor Joshua King,
23:25
Speaker 3: and he works for the University of Florida and he
23:29
Speaker 3: invented a hot water machine that was specific to kill
23:33
Speaker 3: fire ants and it's a big rod that goes into
23:36
Speaker 3: the ground and continually flows boiling water. And we've got
23:39
Speaker 3: a farmer here in Australia who's built that machine to
23:42
Speaker 3: show the government, Look, there are alternative ways, but they
23:46
Speaker 3: don't want to recognize it. They said, the only way
23:48
Speaker 3: we can kill fire ance is with all these poisons
23:50
Speaker 3: and the chemicals, and so the government won't recognize alternative methods.
23:56
Speaker 3: So that's why we've set up the Great Fire and
23:59
Speaker 3: Treatment Alternative because we're trying to educate people there are
24:03
Speaker 3: safer methods. You can use stuff like diatamacious earth orange
24:09
Speaker 3: oil that kills them, sodas and there was a study
24:14
Speaker 3: done recently that our SPA team and artificial sweetness kill them.
24:18
Speaker 3: So they don't like that. But there's a poisoning. There's
24:22
Speaker 3: a program here that they're set to run and I
24:25
Speaker 3: believe the budget runs out in twenty twenty seven, so
24:29
Speaker 3: they're not planning on reviewing how ineffective this whole program
24:33
Speaker 3: is until twenty six, twenty seven, which is when the
24:35
Speaker 3: money runs out. So at the moment US residents was
24:39
Speaker 3: stuck with this hideous program. I mean, so not only
24:42
Speaker 3: does the the pesticides come out of helicopters in semi
24:48
Speaker 3: rural areas like where I live, they send teams of
24:51
Speaker 3: people onto our properties and they're all wearing orange shirts
24:55
Speaker 3: and they force their way on. They sometimes bring police
24:59
Speaker 3: with them. If they think you're you're going to be
25:02
Speaker 3: challenging them, they bring the police with them. They intimidate people.
25:07
Speaker 3: I've literally got people ringing me up in tears, going
25:10
Speaker 3: what can I do to stop them. I've lived on
25:12
Speaker 3: this property for twenty years. I keep an organic garden,
25:15
Speaker 3: and these guys are forcing their way on, and I'm like,
25:18
Speaker 3: We've tried so many things. We've tried different legal letters,
25:23
Speaker 3: we've had lawyers helping us, but this Biosecurity Act just
25:27
Speaker 3: overrides even our human rights. We've had a human rights
25:30
Speaker 3: lawyer helping us, and he said, unfortunately, Queensland in Australia
25:36
Speaker 3: has one of the strictest biosecurity acts in the country.
25:42
Speaker 3: But he said we're not as bad as Western Australia.
25:44
Speaker 3: Apparently in Western Australia they can actually come on your
25:47
Speaker 3: property and vaccinate you which is frightening. So my worry
25:51
Speaker 3: is is if we continue down this road, we're going
25:55
Speaker 3: to be in a situation like that here in Queensland
25:59
Speaker 3: because they don't seem to care about our human rights,
26:02
Speaker 3: our property rights.
26:04
Speaker 1: It's a shame, Sarah, isn't it that the archetypal Ossi
26:09
Speaker 1: Mail is someone that's come through a lot of stuff
26:12
Speaker 1: over you know, through through the censure or through the
26:15
Speaker 1: generations fearless, fearless warriors. That's hence why they they they
26:24
Speaker 1: fought along side us in two World wars and they're
26:29
Speaker 1: in Vietnam. And I'm not trying to sell war here, folks,
26:33
Speaker 1: we all know that's just another bloody siop. But it's
26:38
Speaker 1: such a shame. And it's the same in the UK.
26:41
Speaker 1: This agenda has emasculated everyone and it's done it in
26:45
Speaker 1: such an insidious, insipid, softly, softly, catch the monkey way.
26:53
Speaker 3: It's interesting a lot of people standing with me aren't Australians.
26:56
Speaker 3: There's a lot of expats that's support in our group.
27:02
Speaker 3: I find Australians very complicit a lot of the time,
27:06
Speaker 3: Like you know, that's why during COVID, you know, there
27:09
Speaker 3: was mandates in hospitals in the police force. I mean,
27:13
Speaker 3: I know so many nurses that lost their jobs, teachers
27:16
Speaker 3: that lost their jobs. The police recently won in the
27:21
Speaker 3: court that it was unlawful. The mandates were unlawful for
27:24
Speaker 3: the police. And so we're still going through battles now
27:28
Speaker 3: for all those poor people that lost their jobs because
27:31
Speaker 3: they said no, no, we're not taking it. But and
27:34
Speaker 3: I don't see the NHS mandated it. Did they in
27:38
Speaker 3: the end?
27:40
Speaker 1: Well? Okay, so this is all terminoledge, isn't it. It
27:44
Speaker 1: was a mandate all along. But mandate, it's just a word.
27:48
Speaker 1: You know. You're two things. First of all, it's definitely
27:52
Speaker 1: not law, the same as these lockdowns that they weren't law.
27:56
Speaker 1: That was just basically the psychopaths telling their outlets like
28:01
Speaker 1: the BBC tell everyone to stay home. The BBC did
28:05
Speaker 1: that and people stayed at home. There was no you
28:09
Speaker 1: didn't get a letter through your door explaining any of this. Secondly,
28:15
Speaker 1: of course, even if something was to become law, you
28:19
Speaker 1: have a moral right to remain sovereign. What's the connection.
28:25
Speaker 1: I can see a lot of videos on your social
28:29
Speaker 1: where people's animals, their livestock is under In fact, can
28:35
Speaker 1: I just play a little video, because this one just
28:37
Speaker 1: makes you want to cry. Which one is that it's
28:41
Speaker 1: a woman. She's saying thirty five years I've had these animals.
28:48
Speaker 1: I think she actually has given them names and stuff.
28:51
Speaker 3: Oh that's the Ostrich farm in Canada, right?
28:54
Speaker 1: Can I just play it because I think it highlights
28:58
Speaker 1: that we're all being dover excoos my French. And when
29:03
Speaker 1: you of animals that lived to seth the size, they
29:07
Speaker 1: have names, you don't.
29:09
Speaker 3: You don't one of them.
29:13
Speaker 1: You're going to come into your.
29:19
Speaker 2: Doing.
29:20
Speaker 1: But there's a place that we must follows time.
29:25
Speaker 3: This is the first that this is.
29:27
Speaker 1: The time you guys can change the policies, you can
29:29
Speaker 1: put in your report every This is so much to
29:34
Speaker 1: say about just that Vidico order followers. Where are order
29:38
Speaker 1: followers in the lower chakras in the ego? You know
29:41
Speaker 1: it's more than our job's worth. No, you you have
29:44
Speaker 1: freedom of choice. You don't have to kill this person's animals.
29:48
Speaker 1: And the reason I wanted to show that, Sarah is
29:51
Speaker 1: is this is your loved ones as well. This is
29:54
Speaker 1: our loved ones, the ones that we nurtured, the ones
29:57
Speaker 1: that we promised we'd let, we'd let nothing happen to them.
30:01
Speaker 1: And yet as soon as the mainstream media declares the
30:05
Speaker 1: next nonsense, everyone's like, so totally compliant. I do what
30:10
Speaker 1: you want to my kids, you know. And they're doing that, yeah, because.
30:15
Speaker 3: We've been finding dead birds and dead chickens and paralyzed
30:19
Speaker 3: chickens after they've been putting these poisons on people's private properties,
30:24
Speaker 3: and now they're trying to say, oh, don't touch any
30:26
Speaker 3: dead birds because they might have bird flu. And so
30:29
Speaker 3: then that's a convenient cover art if they, you know,
30:33
Speaker 3: to not let us investigate whether the birds are actually
30:36
Speaker 3: dying from the fire ant poisons. Because as soon as
30:39
Speaker 3: they put these baits around, I've seen the plovers eating it,
30:42
Speaker 3: the coppertoos, the magpies, they love the bakes is corn,
30:47
Speaker 3: and the chickens love it. And there's all these studies
30:51
Speaker 3: it shows it. So this is really interesting that I
30:54
Speaker 3: came across as their permits, their chemical permits, so you
30:57
Speaker 3: must not let chickens eat it, And they say, well,
31:00
Speaker 3: that's because the chickens will eat it before the fire
31:02
Speaker 3: ants get to it. But it even says don't feed
31:04
Speaker 3: chickens any brass clippings with these fire baits. So there's
31:09
Speaker 3: something toxic in them to poultry. And then I'm working
31:13
Speaker 3: closely with a scientist who's amazing. Her name's doctor Connie Turney,
31:18
Speaker 3: and she's looked intoward these studies and there's a study
31:21
Speaker 3: that shows when chickens eat this chemical it causes neurological
31:26
Speaker 3: issues in the embryos, in the chicken embryos. And I
31:30
Speaker 3: don't know if people who was watching, they might remember
31:34
Speaker 3: years ago there was the Zeka virus in Brazil and
31:37
Speaker 3: there was all these babies being born with small heads
31:40
Speaker 3: called microcephaly, and some Argentinian doctors did a study that said, well,
31:46
Speaker 3: hang on, some of these babies have got microcephale who
31:49
Speaker 3: haven't got Zeca virus, so there must be something else
31:52
Speaker 3: causing it. And they looked at their drinking water and
31:55
Speaker 3: in that part of Brazil, they were putting that same chemical, heeroproxyfin,
32:00
Speaker 3: into their drinking water to control mosquito larvae. And then
32:04
Speaker 3: suddenly and then the World Health Organization got involved with no, no,
32:07
Speaker 3: it's safe and effective, it's not causing the babies to
32:09
Speaker 3: have the small heads. And so I never spoke about
32:13
Speaker 3: it in any of the talks I've done because I
32:16
Speaker 3: know it was discredited. But then I spoke at a
32:20
Speaker 3: freedom rally last year and I didn't even talk about microcephally.
32:24
Speaker 3: But this ABC reporter, like the BBC, he came up
32:28
Speaker 3: and started asking me questions. He kept asking me, what
32:31
Speaker 3: do you think about microcephally? What do you think? And
32:33
Speaker 3: I said, oh, and I just said what I said
32:35
Speaker 3: to you. There was a study done. It was discredited,
32:38
Speaker 3: but they still don't know what caused all those babies
32:40
Speaker 3: with the microcephally. He did a whole hit piece on
32:43
Speaker 3: me in the newspaper and said, crazy anti vaxa conspiracy
32:48
Speaker 3: theorists Sarah McGuire, piano teacher, claims it fire ant bits
32:55
Speaker 3: makes babies heads small. I never said that, and yet
33:00
Speaker 3: so it made me. Well. I knew that the mainstream
33:02
Speaker 3: news lies anyway, but to have such a blatant, lying
33:07
Speaker 3: article done about me, and you know, it was really
33:11
Speaker 3: it was very upsetting for me at the time because
33:13
Speaker 3: I've always tried to speak very factually about what's going
33:17
Speaker 3: on here.
33:18
Speaker 1: Yeah.
33:19
Speaker 3: I never linked it to I never linked it to
33:21
Speaker 3: COVID nothing. I just said, look, I'm just talking about
33:24
Speaker 3: fire ants, and this is the nonsense that we're having
33:27
Speaker 3: to deal with here. And I can't believe that my
33:30
Speaker 3: fellow Australians are just go opening their gates and going, yeah,
33:34
Speaker 3: come on in and just check your bait everywhere. They're
33:36
Speaker 3: not even questioning or where are the fire ants and
33:39
Speaker 3: they're believing it. And I feel like during COVID there
33:43
Speaker 3: was that professor Mattias Desmet who talked about mass formation.
33:49
Speaker 1: Which is why psychosis.
33:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is what's going on with this.
33:55
Speaker 1: So a couple of things that don't forget you're doing
33:59
Speaker 1: God work, so you don't have to worry what other
34:02
Speaker 1: other people say. Think about that. That's we connect with
34:06
Speaker 1: one thing and one thing only, right. The rest is
34:09
Speaker 1: just noise. And if you let people of low intelligence
34:13
Speaker 1: or followers repeaters talk about this, you know, don't let
34:19
Speaker 1: them into your your your head. They're not saying they're
34:21
Speaker 1: bad people. We love them all. Not a not a problem,
34:25
Speaker 1: but they're not where you are. They're they're not on
34:28
Speaker 1: you know, they haven't stepped on the enlightened path, and
34:31
Speaker 1: that's fine. The other thing I'll say is you touch
34:34
Speaker 1: on something very critical there. Whenever you hear the V
34:39
Speaker 1: word mentioned, just think it doesn't it physically impossible if
34:46
Speaker 1: anyone doesn't believe me, just go out there, try and prove,
34:50
Speaker 1: Try and prove, and I promise you all roads lead
34:54
Speaker 1: to Rome and you'll go blood. Yeah. I used to
34:57
Speaker 1: listen to this guy, right. He was a nice bloke,
34:59
Speaker 1: but I used to think his ideas were a bit
35:01
Speaker 1: crazy because he told me, like, you know, everything comes
35:06
Speaker 1: from within, it is Sarah, Listen, how can people support
35:11
Speaker 1: you what I've been showing your socials as we've been
35:14
Speaker 1: going through it. You're I'll put the links below, folks.
35:17
Speaker 1: You're on X, You're on Instagram, you're on Facebook, you're
35:23
Speaker 1: on TikTok. Your website's being redone as we speak. You're
35:28
Speaker 1: putting in a massive effort.
35:30
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've been doing this for over a year
35:32
Speaker 3: now and it's I think we're making some headway. Like
35:37
Speaker 3: I said, this program is relentless. It's like a steamroller
35:41
Speaker 3: which is coming for you, coming for you. And what
35:44
Speaker 3: happened to me recently was there's a farmer called Trevor
35:48
Speaker 3: Hold and he had two calves that died after his
35:53
Speaker 3: place had been mass bated. And because we believe it's
35:56
Speaker 3: causing issue issues in embryo development, and these caws were
36:02
Speaker 3: born with neurological issues toxic livers. Anyway, he's joined the
36:06
Speaker 3: campaign and he's being very vocal. You might even want
36:09
Speaker 3: to talk to him sometime because he's done a lot.
36:13
Speaker 3: But he was arrested on the sixteenth of April, and
36:16
Speaker 3: we knew they were going to his property with police,
36:19
Speaker 3: so I went to support him with about thirty other
36:22
Speaker 3: residents and I'm live streaming from my social media his arrest.
36:27
Speaker 3: They literally forced open his gate and they sliced his
36:31
Speaker 3: hand open. He needed stitches. They then tackled him to
36:35
Speaker 3: the ground while he's bleeding, and they arrested him and
36:39
Speaker 3: it was, honestly, it was. It was quite traumatic to watch.
36:44
Speaker 3: But while they were doing that to him and I
36:47
Speaker 3: was there, they snuck onto my property knowing I wasn't home,
36:51
Speaker 3: and they came and baited all my front guard and
36:54
Speaker 3: they put poison all over my fruit trees. My ground
36:58
Speaker 3: was sopping wet. They shouldn't even put it down if
37:00
Speaker 3: the ground is where I don't even have fire ants.
37:02
Speaker 3: I've actually got medical certificates because I reacted to the
37:05
Speaker 3: baits when I collected those water samples, so I had
37:09
Speaker 3: a doctor's certificate. I've contacted the program. I've tried to
37:13
Speaker 3: write letters objecting to what they're doing, and they won't
37:17
Speaker 3: talk to me. They just ignore me as if I
37:19
Speaker 3: don't exist. And so now a human rights lawyer has
37:23
Speaker 3: helping he's helped me. He's sending a letter like tomorrow
37:27
Speaker 3: for me. He's helping me pro bono and he's an
37:30
Speaker 3: amazing human rights lawyer called Peter fam He's the only
37:34
Speaker 3: human rights lawyer in the whole of Australia that isn't
37:37
Speaker 3: funded by the government, which is why he's because not
37:40
Speaker 3: many lawyers seem to even want to help us, because
37:42
Speaker 3: this is a government run program, which is really frightening
37:46
Speaker 3: because there's some serious human rights issues going on here.
37:50
Speaker 3: So the campaign I set up, which was fire entry
37:52
Speaker 3: and Alternatives, and you can see I've got a few
37:54
Speaker 3: signs around me, so we're telling people to put up
37:57
Speaker 3: no trespass signs. That doesn't keep them out ultimately, but
38:02
Speaker 3: it means potentially down the line we can sue them
38:05
Speaker 3: because we've already told them this is no trespass and
38:07
Speaker 3: it's got different cases on there. I'm selling these larger
38:12
Speaker 3: signs We've got to stand with Me campaign. We're telling
38:15
Speaker 3: people to put them on their gates and their fences.
38:18
Speaker 3: We've got smaller no poison zone signs just saying look,
38:24
Speaker 3: this is a no poison zone. So we're just trying
38:27
Speaker 3: to raise away because half the people in Queensland don't
38:29
Speaker 3: even know this is happening, and they don't know it's
38:32
Speaker 3: happening until they arrive in your suburb and what they
38:35
Speaker 3: do is they pick you off one suburb bit at time.
38:37
Speaker 3: So nobody used to have a chance to really group together.
38:41
Speaker 3: But our social media has really taken off and we've
38:45
Speaker 3: connected with people all around this outside ring now that
38:50
Speaker 3: they're target Team, and so we've actually got I don't know,
38:53
Speaker 3: there's hundreds that well, probably thousand people. That's I think
38:57
Speaker 3: I've got five thousand people following me on Instagram and yeah,
39:01
Speaker 3: we're just so we set up a go fund me
39:04
Speaker 3: because we're paying now for the residents who have been arrested.
39:08
Speaker 3: We're paying for their legal defense. We've got criminal lawyers
39:12
Speaker 3: helping us for that. And like I said, we're just
39:16
Speaker 3: trying to raise awareness and give people options, like you know,
39:19
Speaker 3: telling them that they can write letters. We've currently got
39:23
Speaker 3: a community led legal process going on as well. It's
39:27
Speaker 3: being run by the community for people who are interested
39:30
Speaker 3: in that. But yeah, we just the only way we're
39:33
Speaker 3: going to stop this is with public pressure. I don't
39:37
Speaker 3: think we've got no it's through the mainstream sort of
39:43
Speaker 3: legal avenues. We don't really have a leg to stand
39:46
Speaker 3: on with this Biosecurity Act. The only way this will
39:49
Speaker 3: stop is when the people say no. And that's why
39:51
Speaker 3: we've got a campaign saying say no, stand with me,
39:55
Speaker 3: Let's stand together. But this program is so sneaky. They
39:59
Speaker 3: go to people's properties and they say, look, just let
40:01
Speaker 3: us put a little bit baite down your fence line
40:04
Speaker 3: and then we'll tick your property off as being fully done.
40:07
Speaker 3: And so people are falling for that because they're going, oh,
40:09
Speaker 3: they did a deal. I did a deal with them.
40:12
Speaker 3: They only did my fence line, and I'm tiptofs And
40:15
Speaker 3: people are too frightened because what happened to me. I
40:18
Speaker 3: was targeted that day that that guy got arrested. They
40:21
Speaker 3: targeted me and six other people that were associated with him.
40:25
Speaker 3: And it almost feels like they're watching my property because
40:29
Speaker 3: I've got a big six foot electric fence or gate,
40:33
Speaker 3: and my son left it open for like ten minutes
40:36
Speaker 3: and within ten minutes, there were five of them swarming
40:40
Speaker 3: my property, chucking their baits everywhere. My husband was at
40:43
Speaker 3: home working. They didn't even bother to knock on the door,
40:46
Speaker 3: and he ran out and said, ohit, you're not supposed
40:49
Speaker 3: to be here. You better leave. And they actually left,
40:51
Speaker 3: which I was quite surprised about, because once they force
40:54
Speaker 3: their way onto your property, they normally mean they're staying
40:57
Speaker 3: and they won't leave. But and they did leave, but
40:59
Speaker 3: they said they're going to come back and do the
41:01
Speaker 3: rest of my place. Despite other people who lived on
41:06
Speaker 3: much larger properties than me. I'm on one acre. They
41:10
Speaker 3: probably did more than half of the ache and they
41:13
Speaker 3: had maybe one acre baited. And then because they've said,
41:16
Speaker 3: oh yeah, you can come on and they tick it off.
41:18
Speaker 3: So this isn't about anything to do with fire ants.
41:22
Speaker 3: This is compliance and a box ticking exercise. It's not
41:27
Speaker 3: trying to be effective.
41:29
Speaker 1: Sarah, I wish you all the very best. Please take
41:34
Speaker 1: some whatever that word is, from the fact that you know,
41:38
Speaker 1: just by coming on the show, you're helping to raise
41:41
Speaker 1: raise awareness, raise the energy, raiser vibration. Let people know, no,
41:47
Speaker 1: you're not alone. There is a lot of nonsense going
41:51
Speaker 1: on out there and and helping to spread you know,
41:56
Speaker 1: a healthy message. Will put all your links below. Friends,
42:02
Speaker 1: thank you for watching. If you could like and subscribe,
42:05
Speaker 1: obviously that would be brilliant. I'm not going to ask
42:09
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