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George Paton Stinks, NHL Trade Moves, College Football 2025, Runningback HOF Free Agents · Three For The Money

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  How we doing boys? How we doing Chris? I'm doing great. A conference tournament season officially
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  started. Well I'm sure we'll get into that later. Already some madness has happened.
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  Yeah it's great. Gamling wise. Saturday was brutal. Last couple days have been all right.
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  We're getting back into it. But it's March. We've got plenty of time to make up for that. And
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  I mean you can't be sad in March. Like you just can't. It is the best month of the year.
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  So I'm doing great. Sean how we doing?
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  Bit up and down. Gambling wise. I'll have. Well since last week I went. I said I was the hottest
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  college basketball gambler on the planet possibly. And then I went into the depths of hell just to
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  prove how cold I was for about three straight days. And then it's just been up down up down.
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  Or I'll either win like nine of my 12 or whatever that I have or I'll lose
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  seven of the eight that I have. It's very it's been very very up and down. And it's
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  it's affecting me emotionally and physically. And I'm just hope I can get on the righteous path
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  soon before the the madness starts. What do you mean it's affecting you physically?
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  Are you like not eating? No it's not. Like I get emotionally you get sad when everybody like yeah
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  I'm not eating. I don't sleep. I was like you said you went 11 and two last night so shut the hell up.
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  Yeah well that that was a good day. And then well the on the day before I went like
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  I think it went like three and eight which was terrible. But it's just
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  and it's affecting my brain chemistry honestly it's just like I get that. Yeah I went six and
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  13 on Saturday so I don't even get me started on Saturday. We're not going to get into it.
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  It's the past. It is the past. Yep I I haven't been betting the past two days been a little busy.
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  But two days before that I lost all of my bets. I had four bets lost them all
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  is when it was the last loser we gave out that day.
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  What was it? Sunday. Yeah I think it was Sunday. Yeah I lost all my bets that day. I lost all four
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  my bets that day. And then the day before I went one and three. So that was pretty rough. But
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  you know what today's a new day we're moving on. Okay so
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  so let's hit into some some some some current topics. Okay how does let's see what the fuck
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  is his name. How does George Patton still have a job. Is that the Broncos? Yes. Yeah can I
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  can I go in on this real quick. Yes please. Okay well I just want to say that NFLGMS have been
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  fired for a lot less than this travesty that the Broncos have put on the field these past two years.
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  Giving up two first rounders two second rounders a fifth pick three players and a fourth overall
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  picked to get Russell Wilson and then sign him to a 242 million dollar contract I believe.
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  And in return he got two years of Russell Wilson back to back losing seasons and 85 million dollars
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  in dead cap the largest dead cap hit in league history. I mean how is this man how how is he
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  still employed honestly like I would love to know. I think he will be fired I think he'll be fired
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  after this or this upcoming season unless they like have a great draft and like these guys like
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  all their rookies show out and maybe they squeak into a wild card if they don't I think he's gone.
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  I mean this is arguably I'm not really even arguably it's probably the worst trade in NFL history.
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  Yeah yeah I mean it's it's up there. It's up like the Herschel Walker with the Cowboys trade. I mean
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  it it is neck and neck with that. It's I think you know obviously hindsight is 2020 but I think
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  with the Herschel Walker trade that really kickstarted the the the Cowboys dynasty. Yeah and
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  it is the worst trade definitely since the Herschel Walker trade.
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  Yeah for sure. I just can't get past how like he made this decision and like the owner didn't
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  immediately fire him like he's still employed and I know that like we're in the midst of like
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  teams need a GM right now like the combines going on drafts coming up you can't just start fresh
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  but these talks have been you know going on for a little bit now like it's been like
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  Broncos might move on from Russell Wilson like three months ago and
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  I don't know I would be pissed off if I was a Broncos fan. I would be
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  on the edge of a building maybe. Is John Elway still employed by the Denver Broncos?
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  I don't know. I think he might be like team president or something. Well then he should be
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  equal may not equal but he needs to share some part of this. All their front all their front
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  offices honestly but I mean again let me look that up because I don't want to drag his name if he's
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  like just sitting on a beach somewhere. He's he's on the he's in the office I believe.
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  Was he was he a GM before? I don't know if he's still it. I don't know if he's still it. He was
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  up until 2020. It says in 2022 he was a consultant so I don't think he is he is no longer with the
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  Denver front office. Okay per CBS Sports in April 5th 2023. Never mind then no John Elway has
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  said something I'm not gonna shut on him but no I mean this I think Patton that's his name right Patton
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  he will he will be fired after this year and like I said let's say all his rookies or whoever he
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  takes in the first round shows out. There's like you just don't recover from this and it's gonna be
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  a hard he won't get a GM job anytime soon. Not only did you trade for this man you gave him a
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  ass ton of money to be and dog shit. I just don't understand how you just don't let it go for like
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  another year at least at least the cap hit won't be as bad like releasing him with two more years
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  on his on his deal and like giving up 85 million dead money is insane that's so much fucking money.
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  I mean I kind of get it like we know he's not the guy like he's you're not one of the Super Bowl
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  with him you're not gonna do really anything with him he was serviceable at best so we're gonna have
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  to pay him anyway like all this money is guaranteed let's just cut our losses and try to find a rookie
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  like if we're gonna pay him anyway we might as well try to find his replacement I like
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  you're you're you're shit out of luck either way.
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  I kind of get what they're doing they're like we're already gonna owe him all this money so let's
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  just try to find a guy while we can. Yeah I mean I got but you're not gonna get there within the
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  next two years also so it's kind of like you're not moving forward really but you're not moving
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  backwards. I think the way they see it is like they're more likely just I guess just stumble
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  into a guy than get one out of Russell Wilson which is true because he's just not he's just not a
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  good football player anymore he's just not. Yeah I mean it's you know we shoot on Russell Wilson a lot
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  during our our in-season show and it's fun I like doing it because he is not good.
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  He's not very likable. I guess I guess I'm just mad that we can't really do that anymore.
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  He's gotta find a home like someone's gonna sign him. Yeah. Yeah. Really start.
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  Probably not. It depends. Yeah like I've seen him I mean I feel like it's the same teams who are in
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  talks with every talks who are in the circles of every quarterback free agent now it's like
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  the Falcons the Steelers like would he the Falcons he would 100% start but I don't think he's
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  gonna go there the Steelers. I don't think you I think they would give pick at a shot like one
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  last shot before they were like all right Russ just get us to the end of the season.
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  Yeah.
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  Sorry Will. Do you have anything to add.
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  Um not really I mean it's just he's not very likable and I kind of get why they did it. It's
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  just this is such a huge dead cap number like this is awful for the Broncos but
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  to answer the question that started started this this topic. No I do not think that George Patton
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  should have a job anymore. Case closed. Yeah I mean no he shouldn't but yeah like I said like it's
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  a right smack dab in the middle of the like most important time of the off season so
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  I get it but um Chris I think you've I think you've said that like your dream job would be
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  to be one of these NFL players that just gets the bag and then is terrible or whatever
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  or sprouts the bench or whatever. I mean in that sense Brock Oswiler is my hero. He was
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  decent for like a little bit and the Houston Texans were like here is all the money you could
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  ever hope for and then he was like okay I'm gonna be terrible now and just bankrupt your franchise.
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  But now if you could trade places with Russell Wilson would you because now you have a guy that
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  has won a Super Bowl and has and has the bag and is married to Sierra and has a Subway sandwich
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  named after him. I think they pulled that. I don't know I'm rethinking it now but
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  hey Subway sandwich got me part of the deal. Spicy. No I would. Oh my god.
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  Um no I would I would trade places with Russell Wilson to harm oh yeah he's what he's two times
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  Super Bowl champion or one. Just one. Just one. Oh just one sorry. Um yeah just one. No no he's
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  he's and he's I mean and his wife is also Uber rich and famous. They're great great grandkids
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  great great grandkids will never have to work a day in their life so uh yeah I think he's fine long
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  term. Yeah he's he's probably not really tore up about it honestly. I mean it does have to suck
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  just to know that you're a punchline. Yeah but also all the eighty five million dollars or whatever
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  it is that that helps a lot I imagine. It helps a lot. So I mean yeah it probably does suck but
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  at the end of the day no I don't feel bad for him one bit. You have eighty five million dollars to
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  fuck yourself. Yeah that was my little tangent. I mean I saw that news earlier this week and I was
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  like we have to talk about this. I don't know if it struck a chord as much as it did to me but I was
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  like it's like J-Rop got fired after the Eagles game where AJ Brown lit us up you know and it's
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  like directly after the game. Yeah. Oh I think this guy's just borrowed time like oh yeah he's
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  gone after this year barring any sort of like miracles happening he's done so let's get to know
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  it's good to know. So okay new topic so this summer the new NCAA video game will be out hopefully
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  the Wayne Park for a long time and so in order to get all of the name image and likeness from all
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  these college players they kind of had to have like a middle ground where you want to get paid
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  something but it's not a lot for these small town schools and it's not it has to be something
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  for these big time schools for with the with the big time players so they came up with $600
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  and a copy of the video game. I'm gonna be honest if you are a college student and you're not getting
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  paid this is this is the move just you and you're in a video game you're immortalized for life
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  and if you're an upper echelon player it's kind of like you sign it anyway because it's a free
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  $600 and you're in a video game and video games are awesome so there's a kind of a lot of noise
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  going around about if this is too much or if this is not enough at all what what what do you all
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  think? I mean isn't it they made it $600 because that's like the bare minimum they can pay someone
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  for it to be taxable is that something like what it is I'm not an economist that is that is like
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  the the bare minimum of like a i-99 for bigger taxes so I'm gonna be honest I'm not gonna be
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  like a i-99 for bigger taxes so I assume that's why they landed on $600 also like like you said well
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  if you're the senator at eastern Michigan you're like yeah fuck yeah $600 let's go and if you're
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  Caleb Williams or obviously he's not in college anymore if you're Quentin Ewers you're like
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  like I don't care like I'm getting s tons of money in NIL anyway so that's $600 to go
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  go to a casino or go buy booze so who cares so I think like yeah there's no reason that anyone
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  anyone should say no to being in the college football video game oh but but there is oh oh
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  really do you know do you know who enlightened me oh his he goes um by the name of uh arch manning
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  the football player of the manning of the manning dynasty of the manning dynasty no arch
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  arch manning arch manning will not be in in uh in cAAA 25 because he needs to focus on football
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  um he knows that he's not like he's not being like tronned like he's not being transported
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  into the game right like he knows that it's just a video game and all you have to do is say yes
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  right like like he's back quote is so funny to me like I have to focus on football like oh
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  like maybe he meant like he doesn't want the game like he doesn't want to play it because
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  he's actually focused on playing football but still I'm like that's a really odd decision to make
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  I think that is PR speak for I want more money
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  I mean he's all right I don't know what his NIL deal is but his last name is Manning so I'm
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  assume it's uh it's it's a lot um no he's I this is ridiculous he's being a baby uh just stop it
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  who can also the people who are like legitimately upset like oh I wanted to play with archman
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  which I have not heard anybody say that but if there is anyone out there saying that if you're
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  building a dynasty with Texas you can go fuck yourself if you're not building a dynasty from
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  the ground up with ball state I don't even want to I don't even want to talk to you
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  exactly exactly so it's like oh no Texas is back up quarterback isn't in the game
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  whatever shall I do no it's it is it it is very stupid that he is opting out but it means
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  absolutely nothing yeah well I was Will and I were talking about this um the other day and
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  I said that you know if these players don't opt in they're just gonna build you anyways in the game
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  like with all your stats and your your passer rating and your you throw capability your strength
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  you know all that junk they're gonna build you either way they're you're just not gonna
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  have the nameplate on the back yeah you're gonna be you're gonna be Danny Johnson instead of
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  instead of archmanning yeah yeah and it's like why not just take the $600 and just fuck off like I I mean honestly I would love to be in a video game I would do it for free if I was a college player I would do it for free but if they're offering me $600 be like yep where do I sign
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  yeah no the only reason I can think of legitimate reason because I always want to focus on football no that's bullshit get the fuck out of here is he just he just wanted more money from it that is the only thing I can think which is stupid but
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  I that what else could it be because it's not because he wants to focus on football because it has something to do with football
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  it's not like Texas is backup quarterback is gonna be on the cover and have to go on press tours and all this nonsense so I mean yeah the the running joke which I'm starting to believe is that he saw his overall was gonna be like was be like 68 and he's the backup and that's gonna tarnish the manning legacy
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  so yeah that I mean I can't think of any good reason those are just the two kind of stupid reasons that I thought of
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  where I've heard of at least big if true on the on the manning legacy for sure big if I mean if your ego if your ego is like
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  that big or small I don't know if it's bigger small I don't know big big if it's if your ego is that big to like it's like
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  arch only had a 68 when he premiered in NCAA it's like we're around the Thanksgiving dinner table it's like really like
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  is that what you're afraid of is like family confrontation yeah I don't know I mean that is incredibly stupid but it is far more believable than I just want to focus on football
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  yeah that is that is way more that is way more believable because it makes just a sliver of sense
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  yeah like I I can't even think of a reason why you wouldn't sign it and you say I just want to focus on football other than the two reasons you gave me which are valid reasons but like
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  that when I saw that I was like you know you're not like in the game like you're not hooked up to like wires and cables and stuff and you're not like
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  you're not gonna get transported in some game in like Toledo in the middle of September
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  when you get hurt in the game you get hurt for real yeah for real it's like well I'm like some guys playing dynasty year three and I tear my ACL like what am I supposed to do
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  well well arch it's uh it's not real I don't know if anyone's told you that yet but no it's no matter what he says it's it's just stupid and honestly irrelevant so
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  maybe uh maybe he knows that the game is going to be awesome so he preemptively is not going to play it because if he has it he won't be able to focus on football
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  so you're admitting that you're addicted to video games
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  well I mean you know they've been waiting for this game for a long time I mean
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  it could be could be really awesome you know you don't want to see when 14 came out like six
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  I don't know it was 10 years ago so how old is he now I mean he's probably 19 so like
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  he's probably he was probably like nine or 10 when that game came out he's probably never played a college football video game
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  which is I bet he has just tear what he probably has because I mean hell I've played 14 within the last calendar year so yeah
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  but that's like I said there's no reason he could give or I'm like oh yeah good point arch
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  yeah you were right yeah you were right to opt out of a free $600
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  but uh let's get off of archmanning for a sec because there is another like point to this whole topic
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  there are people saying that $600 isn't enough
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  is that agreeable or does that or a $600 like kind of like a cool flat fee for the thousands of
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  football college athletes in the country so like what do you have to do for this like if you're like I said like
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  if you're a top name you're getting paid off like from other sources already so I don't really care what you have to say
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  if you're the wide receiver two at Toledo what do you have to do for this game exactly
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  just say like hey you can use my name and then you can make a guy who looks kind of like me
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  and has my I assume so I assume that is like the bare minimum you don't have to do any sort of motion
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  capture or anything like that they've probably already gotten sad taking care of yeah problem so like
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  $600 I feel like is like yeah it's it's fair I mean if you're an athlete being you like you're the
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  cover athlete or you're being used in promotional stuff I can see wanting to get a little bit more money
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  which they will which yeah I assume they will but I have no idea I've seen a lot of people get robbed
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  from this game before but um if not like if you're just like some guy sitting like like I said
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  a mac wide receiver then yeah like you have no real right to complain about that
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  yes um which I haven't really heard any athletes complain that this wasn't enough
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  yeah it's like uh it's it's it's a free $600 at the end of the day and like and a video game
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  yeah and you it's like people forget that that's awesome yeah it is zero work
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  and also like if you don't have a PlayStation 5 you can use that $600 to get a PlayStation 5
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  to play the video game that you are on like this is this is simple math here folks
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  like yeah I mean I get that like some of these players are already millionaires
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  but like this this is no work this is actual no work no one's name is going to be tarnished
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  for just being on a video game I guess maybe if you suck but but like it's it's a game it's like
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  it's a video game it's not real it's not me it's a drawing of me it's an animation of me
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  so yeah no it's yeah I I'm very excited for the game oh yeah I mean I'm probably gonna play it
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  probably not gonna do much else
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  yeah uh I haven't heard many athletes complain about it I've seen random people on Twitter
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  or just being like it should be more and it's like why why
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  that's how you know it's a dumb argument when it's just people have nothing to do with it
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  are complaining and the people who are actually receiving compensation are like yeah that's fair
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  except for Archimani
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  yeah that that one guy with a dynasty name but
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  yeah I mean if I was a if I was a college football athlete dude I would have signed yesterday
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  yeah it wouldn't even be a question one my lifelong dream of being in a video game has come true
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  two I get $600 for doing nothing I go to MTSU like exactly exactly I'm actually assuming that
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  they're offering all college athletes I actually don't know but I'm assuming they're offering all
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  of the college athletic football athletes this deal
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  they have to right I believe so okay like I said unless you're on the cover or being like
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  your actual picture not like the video game picture of you your actual picture or you yourself
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  has been used to market it I assume you'll get compensated for that but yeah if you're just some
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  guy who's just in the game then which with marketing they should just uh they should just
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  use like the last 10 Heisman winners that weren't in NCAA 15 through 24 and they don't even have to
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  pick college athletes at that point smart don't big brain big brain all right next topic the
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  NHL trade deadline is this Friday today is Wednesday and there's already been a couple
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  huge trades okay um let's just get into it so former former Nashville Predator Ryan Johansson
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  who we pretty much just gave away to Colorado and kept half the salary for a salary dump
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  uh was traded to Philadelphia today with a first round pick and they got a defenseman back
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  and then they immediately put Ryan Johansson on waivers
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  pretty wild kind of wild that he was on our team last year and like now he's not he's almost not
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  even on a team in the NHL it's kind of wild it's like he has like 27 points in like 63 games this season
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  which is not a lot obviously but like man that is such a drop off what it's it's kind of it's kind
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  of wild you know and it's you know at the time when we got rid of them and we got rid of Duchain too
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  like it was like is this the right move because these are good players and they could turned out to be
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  something uh granted we already paid them an ass load of money um but I guess this is kind of
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  the right move that we that we did we kind of just got rid of uh Johansson for nothing and uh
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  uh well I'm gonna say nothing we're are we still we're still paying him
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  yeah obviously we didn't get any yeah oh oh oh I give you a second okay sorry I'm
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  misunderstood okay yeah uh we got Alex Galchenyuk and then waived him and now he's playing in some
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  league in Europe uh so uh but yeah and then the the the big question kind of for us around
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  Nashville is like what if they're trying to buy him out then what does that mean for us because
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  we're we hold like we we took on half of his contract instead of buying him out and so I kind of just
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  skimmed it I know Sean had uh Sean found a tweet about the specifics do you do you have that in front
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  of you Sean yeah doing yeah so um if he gets sent down to the AHL with which it he could but uh
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  uh if he reports to the AHL we will only be paying 1.3 million instead of four so that actually opens
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  up like 2.7 mil in our cap at the trade deadline which is kind of crazy um which could be like
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  a big move like if the breads decide to become buyers instead of sellers at the deadline because we
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  got like a little bit of extra cap space um but and I thought that like if he gets sent down to the
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  AHL because um I'm gonna switch topics here just for like a sec because well you might know more
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  about this than me but Kunetzoff just came back from the player rehabilitation program and was
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  immediately put on waivers which that's a crazy ass move in my mind it's like hey you just got over
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  drugs and alcohol oh go fuck yourself but he could be he could also be the highest paid
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  player in the NHL at like eight and a half million dollars yeah yeah he showed up to show up to the
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  her to Hershey interesting okay so I that's I don't need to know like all the whole backstory
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  on that like why they waived him in the first place but whatever uh but
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  but yes um they would they would essentially split like the abs the flyers and the
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  prez would essentially split uh Johansson's remaining cap like three ways
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  like they're the 50 retained cap three ways since they since they traded him and they dropped him
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  and you know and also Nashville can't pick up Johansson off waivers it's part of like the
• 38:57
  the player cba or something which which at first when I was like oh my god this Johansson might be
• 39:07
  like a four million dollar a hl player that we're paying like it's like hell just pick him back up
• 39:15
  like if we're gonna pay him anyway just pick him back up like um but no we can't
• 39:22
  but it it is interesting that we could get a little bit of a cap boost if he goes down to the miners
• 39:34
  yes um there is kind of a little bit of noise
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  after we we went on this heater it uh it was it's kind of like okay sorrow says off the table
• 39:50
  we're not we're not trading sorrows and now kind of the noise around town is that we might be buyers
• 39:58
  which is kind of wild and I'm not totally sure what we were we would be in the market for but
• 40:10
  it is uh you know it's not my job to figure that that went out but
• 40:15
  it's like I think if we do somehow make a trade it's going to be we're trading alexander carrier
• 40:25
  for something else uh because I think he needs a new contract at the end of the season and we
• 40:33
  already resigned novak to you know nothing which great deal fantastic deal guy can can put it in the
• 40:43
  net um so I think if we move anyone it's going to be carry a or or maybe fabro uh and that's
• 40:54
  about it hopefully you get a better right d because we don't really have a great one so
• 41:00
  that's that'd be a preferable situation for me uh I don't know that's kind of that's kind of it
• 41:07
  um first round picks have already been dealt today it's kind of wild it's uh normally it's
• 41:16
  they wait till friday on the trade deadline to uh to bust out these crazy ass trades uh but yeah
• 41:24
  vladimir teresenko's already traded um uh colorado did a swap with bubble flow kc middle stat for
• 41:34
  bow and byroom now one's kind of wild uh both of them kind of underperforming since they've really
• 41:41
  gotten to their n hl clubs so maybe this switch will will help them and you know now that colorado's
• 41:48
  out another center they uh they they found one so yeah I mean I think friday's going to be kind of
• 41:57
  wild um if if it's anything like today but but yeah I think uh what's happened today alexander
• 42:05
  winberg went from seattle to the new york rangers um just kind of solidifying their depth trying to
• 42:12
  make a big run um trying to think what what what other ones happened let me see uh no uh
• 42:21
  hey hannah flinn he got dealt to the vegas yes he's probably gonna get he's probably he's gonna get
• 42:30
  re-signed by vegas uh the the capitals traded anthony mantho to vegas oh my god yeah i mean
• 42:42
  i fucking hate the knights dude i i hate them so so god damn much yeah they always just
• 42:50
  what like what the hell why do they always just get they were just like immediately good players
• 42:58
  always like from the jump they just get good players yeah well mark stone is out for the remainder
• 43:05
  of the season so i get that they need to like build depth like where he isn't where he isn't
• 43:14
  there anymore he might come back for the playoffs but it's kind of up in the air but yeah but they
• 43:21
  were just born good yep and it just pisses me off and every year they make a splash at the
• 43:29
  deadline and then they make a then they make a run and then they win a cup and then it's just like
• 43:39
  fuck you yeah it uh they're they're they're utilizing the the ltr cap loop oh yeah they're
• 43:51
  real good at that i've heard utilizing i've heard manipulating i've heard just straight up faking it
• 44:02
  i don't know enough about that have an opinion but i've just heard
• 44:05
  some they they're using some questionable tactics
• 44:14
  i can't speak to that i don't know oh god oh geez yeah i don't know either i was just that's
• 44:20
  just what i've heard people say like because didn't they have a problem with this last year
• 44:25
  like putting guys on long term i are and they're like well this is not right
• 44:30
  yeah i mean it's you know it's a problem everywhere yeah like the the lightning did it
• 44:44
  uh a couple of teams of you know it's just a loophole and okay you know you could you could
• 44:53
  say that utilizing it and manipulating it are the same like but at the end of the day like it is
• 45:04
  part of the system and how it works okay i was just wondering because yeah like i know i do not
• 45:14
  know enough about this have have a real opinion i've just last couple years i've heard this kind
• 45:19
  of same controversy so i didn't know if that was like a real thing or if it's just people kind of
• 45:25
  yeah making a big deal about about essentially nothing you know if you if you lose to a team that
• 45:31
  is utilizing the long term i are in the playoffs then it becomes manipulating then they're then
• 45:41
  they're manipulating of course yeah yeah exactly so that's that's sports math of course yeah sports
• 45:49
  so okay i was just curious about that
• 45:54
  cap gymnastics
• 45:58
  that's a term people throw around but yeah i uh i'm not really sure who else is
• 46:05
  really on the market looking to get traded uh um so we're definitely trading sorrows now
• 46:15
  is that what you said yeah he's off the table okay um i did well do you still want the
• 46:23
  prets to trade sorrows you're pretty at this point last week yeah i was um but i mean at this point
• 46:32
  it's like it seems like we're we're the frisky team that can that can play spoiler it seemed it kind
• 46:42
  of seems like we are i guess either like the the 15 16 predators where it's we're we're deep
• 46:55
  and it's going to be someone different every night uh when we win these games it feels like that
• 47:03
  and it hasn't felt like that since we lost to dallas uh that was like 2019 or something um
• 47:14
  ever since that year it's kind of felt like we've been chasing what we thought
• 47:19
  what what we we wanted to be before but now it kind of feels like we're in the beginning stages
• 47:27
  of what we were when we were when we were the best team in the league in uh in 2018 2017 yeah i mean
• 47:38
  collecting points they lost last night for their ninth uh you know straight win but
• 47:45
  shout out to the over on that game so i had that over um but you know nine games with a point
• 47:55
  streak that's nothing to that's 17 points no yeah that's 17 points in nine games that's pretty crazy
• 48:05
  that's pretty good and i don't know like it's i i get what you're saying it's starting to feel
• 48:12
  like it's 2015 2016 but i don't expect the same outcome
• 48:23
  at all yeah you know and it's
• 48:28
  and you know like at the end of the day like when the season's over i'm probably not gonna be like
• 48:34
  uh we should have traded sorrows yeah you know we should have just traded him it's like no i'm
• 48:43
  probably not gonna be like that because like this is why hockey is fun it's like these runs and like
• 48:51
  the when you get into like the meat and potatoes of the nhl season is what we're in right now
• 48:59
  now with the trade deadline and then the final like 20 game push to the playoffs
• 49:07
  there's so much at stake and it's so much fun and it starts to become less inconsistent
• 49:16
  because there are like times where you know the worst team in the league will be the best team
• 49:23
  in the league like six to two and you start to see less of that so it i don't know i see
• 49:33
  2015 2016 poking its head but i really i don't expect us to make a a finals run again like i
• 49:43
  don't expect that either yeah it's like i think what you said last week is perfect it's like maybe
• 49:48
  sorrows could steal a series and that's about it but you know it'll be fun during that series
• 49:58
  that series will be fun yeah it uh
• 50:05
  well i was gonna say i mean 15 16 we weren't expecting a finals run at all
• 50:11
  and it happened no i don't think we were really expecting anything because like i think the
• 50:17
  the blackhawks were the like favorite to win the cup and we just slept them they were the top seed
• 50:24
  in the league so yeah i remember going into that i was like just don't get swept and then when we
• 50:30
  won game one i was like okay fine i'd like just lose the rest whatever we didn't get swept
• 50:36
  yeah obviously we didn't so yeah but um yeah yeah i was uh i was more referring to like the two years
• 50:48
  prior to like the big run where it was like where the were the rough and tough breads
• 50:55
  i give what you're saying yeah oh like the the ducks and shark series
• 50:59
  oh yeah yeah okay that's really what i'm referring to like okay like it's not it's not like
• 51:06
  where the team that nobody wants to play but we are the team that can play spoiler or someone
• 51:12
  that is good yeah that's that's what it feels like i don't expect that to happen but
• 51:21
  that that's just what it it feels like i guess that series awesome yeah it feels like we're on our
• 51:28
  way to to being good yeah like i guess the seed of becoming a good it's it's like the window is
• 51:40
  is slightly opening back up like we're really we're letting a breeze roll in we've unlocked the window
• 51:47
  yeah we have spring time's coming we're getting the rings time yeah exactly exactly that's a good way to
• 51:53
  put it yeah but i think the nhl trade deadline is one of my favorite sports days of the year
• 52:04
  if i'm being honest i would have to agree it is it's actually like insane
• 52:10
  yeah what teams will give up and give or look tanner jano got us five picks
• 52:24
  yes sir is he still on that team yeah yeah is he doing anything i don't know
• 52:31
  he's not living up to what what he was here but yeah oh i thought you were gonna say you
• 52:39
  he's wasn't living up to the trade i was like you mean he isn't the greatest hockey player of all time
• 52:48
  get traded for it like three firsts or something like it was insane it was the first to set again
• 52:55
  the third whatever it was yeah it was oh was it really one of each yeah it was it was one of it was
• 53:01
  oh one two three four five like oh shit yeah i just remember that happened i was like tanner tanner jano
• 53:10
  right this isn't a typo i was like you know the kind of like borderline grinder tanner jano like
• 53:20
  him okay yeah sure he was a fucking he was like runner up to the calder right will uh i can't even
• 53:32
  remember like behind like zegrous i think so yeah i see really i'm pretty sure like he had like he was
• 53:40
  like neck and neck with like zegrous on like points but like his penalty minutes this was like zegrous
• 53:47
  penalty minutes and this was like his penalty minutes like way way up here well then he he
• 53:54
  definitely should have won it then if he's getting if he's getting like more points per time on ice
• 54:02
  that's a very fair point that's saying yeah also he was much older than trevor zegrous
• 54:10
  as yeah he was like four or five years older than he was i think yeah because jano had been in the
• 54:18
  coast and in a hl for a little bit before jano was like 26 when he was like nominated for the calder
• 54:29
  pretty old but it's rookie year man but so was caprice off so yeah he was great though
• 54:38
  yeah he was awesome um let's see is that it um i think so you want to talk about nfl free agent
• 54:51
  running backs for a little bit sure i completely forgot to do research on that but i mean go ahead
• 54:58
  it's just like it's a hall of fame yeah like yeah we've never seen a free agent running back class
• 55:06
  this stacked if you can call it a class uh whatever you want to call it i mean it's what it's seikwan
• 55:15
  darry kenry eckler josh jacobs tony paul that's insane jk dobbins ziki jk dobbins as well yeah
• 55:26
  yeah ziki yeah deandre swift zakmoss like that this is like gosh yeah i have it's actually crazy how
• 55:41
  many running backs there are yeah which is like is the running back position
• 55:48
  really that valuable anymore well see that's what i was gonna say i was like all there's
• 55:58
  hall of famers in this free agent class
• 56:03
  does it matter
• 56:08
  because like aside from josh jacobs i guess you could say jk dobbins because he's been hurt
• 56:13
  a lot of these guys have been with their teams for a while and haven't accomplished
• 56:21
  i mean really much like yeah darry kenry 2000 like individual awards yes but in terms of team
• 56:27
  awards haven't really done anything so does it matter
• 56:34
  well i think it's pretty i think it's been pretty apparent that
• 56:44
  the running back position isn't valued at what people think it is supposed to be
• 56:55
  and that's what kind of what i was saying is like we just saw christ mccaffrey who is far and away
• 57:01
  the best running bag in the league right now probably best running bag like that we've seen
• 57:07
  in a while in terms of just his skill set and he's over two in super pulse so like that's
• 57:16
  what i was kind of getting at was like okay cool say quan josh jacob stare kenry all the
• 57:21
  eclair free agents will they really make an impact on whatever team they go to
• 57:27
  to be an impact big enough to win the super bowl is what i'm saying
• 57:34
  yeah i mean if christian mccaffrey can't exactly get you one it's like
• 57:44
  i've always loved the running back position i mean grew up as titans fans arguably the titans
• 57:51
  franchise has the mount rushmore of running backs in a single franchise in a single franchise
• 57:59
  yeah i wouldn't say it's arguable i think we have far and away the three best running backs of any
• 58:05
  like who else has i mean i would say i would say four yeah four like four running backs like that
• 58:12
  girl cambell eddie george christian sandare kenry nobody can hold a candle to that yeah nobody even
• 58:22
  comes close to that caliber and the oilers titans franchise has nothing to show for it
• 58:34
  again kind of goes back to the point like does it matter which i hate to say because i do love
• 58:39
  the ring back position but like i've heard like the texans are thinking about throwing the bag at
• 58:48
  seiquan and it's like okay as a titans fan that sucks because i could probably steal a game from
• 58:55
  us but does it matter in the long run yeah like i like i mean it just the ring back position
• 59:06
  it's just not valued anymore yeah it's it's not the same game as it was i mean when was the last
• 59:15
  time the a running back was nvp super bowl i mean or like adrian peterson like 2008 was the nvp that
• 59:26
  was almost 15 years ago that team didn't do anything like that they didn't really yeah they
• 59:33
  didn't do anything but like they like so i i feel like the running back position in terms of being
• 59:42
  like we're gonna give you the ball and you're gonna win this the super bowl hasn't been a thing in
• 59:50
  a like ages yeah so yeah that was just kind of my kind of my point was like okay like yes we have
• 59:59
  all these free agent running backs will they go to a team like i guess you put them in like the
• 1:00:07
  like if one of them goes to the ravens pray to god sent darik henry then yeah you could say it's
• 1:00:13
  like yeah well they helped it's like well yeah but this team was also already really fucking good
• 1:00:19
  so yeah they already made the aFC championship yeah so
• 1:00:24
  i don't know that was just my thought process like does it will any of these running backs make
• 1:00:33
  a difference a substantial difference for a team to win a super bowl wow that is
• 1:00:41
  dude i don't know bro but i didn't know that like there was so many free agent running backs like
• 1:00:46
  that oh yeah and granted like most of them are either older for running backs or coming off injuries
• 1:00:52
  aside from really josh jacob's who i feel like he's extremely undervalued like he led the league
• 1:01:01
  led the league jeez led the league in rushing two years ago last year two years ago like this guy's
• 1:01:07
  still a horse like he needs to if there's anyone who could actually make a legitimate difference
• 1:01:13
  i think it's yeah and more i mean eclaire too like eclaire kind of just check downs like a son of a
• 1:01:22
  bitch i mean i feel after last year i think that guy's just a shelf himself i think he's about
• 1:01:30
  that i think he'll get one more payday i think he'll hang it up did he uh did he not do well last
• 1:01:35
  year he didn't do i mean that team which just wasn't very good but he didn't do shit he was also hurt
• 1:01:40
  so i think he's just kind of i think he's about done
• 1:01:46
  could be hope i'm wrong i like him i've had him in fantasy numerous times but
• 1:01:52
  i i i see the writing on the wall for him i feel like is get one more payday and retire
• 1:02:00
  yeah for sure yeah man like i hate to say it but
• 1:02:04
  but yeah i don't i don't think there's much value for for teams on running backs anymore nobody wants
• 1:02:13
  to pay a running back like a bag anymore it's it that money needs to be spent elsewhere it's like
• 1:02:26
  any running back can get four yards you know any any running back can get like a small gain
• 1:02:33
  on second down i wouldn't say any running back i couldn't get four down four four yards on you
• 1:02:41
  know but aside from darry kenry just putting the titans on his back in the playoffs in that one year
• 1:02:50
  like when was the last time we've seen a running back do that all right couldn't tell you exactly
• 1:02:56
  and then what did we get from that we lost we blew a 10 point lead the afc championship so like
• 1:03:04
  just having a bell cut back i mean i may be staying the obvious here but having a bell cut back
• 1:03:10
  really just doesn't beat shit anymore yeah and i hate to say it because i i mean that's time
• 1:03:17
  to spend we grew up being like the running back is god yeah i mean like that's why i like running
• 1:03:24
  back so much i mean like but fuck dude i don't want to pay a running back you know 14 million
• 1:03:31
  dollars anymore yeah because and neither do neither do nfl teams and it's i mean the chiefs
• 1:03:37
  like chiefs just showed us he went back to back super balls with the seventh run with the seventh
• 1:03:42
  run pick yeah yeah yeah so that that was kind of what i was getting at was like all these free
• 1:03:51
  agents but is anyone gonna do anything yeah it's i think it's a travesty i really do
• 1:04:01
  but these guys need to know that they're not gonna get paid what they think they should get paid
• 1:04:10
  i think josh shakeouts will get paid yeah say i'm gonna get paid and i think someone will overpay
• 1:04:16
  for seguan other than that i don't which dare kinder he already got his bag also did eckler so
• 1:04:22
  i'm not really i will i won't cry i mean i want dare kinder to go somewhere preferably the nfc
• 1:04:30
  but other than that i i don't really care which yeah if dare kinder goes to the ravens i will be
• 1:04:37
  i will cry i i might cry i will cry i might walk into traffic but yeah that's like worst case
• 1:04:48
  scenario yeah as he wins a super bowl with the ravens yeah let's not talk about that
• 1:04:56
  wait i'm just saying man that is i've thought about it a lot i started thinking about that like
• 1:05:01
  halfway through the last season it's like this guy's gonna be a free agent really at the trade
• 1:05:05
  deadline when people were like oh yeah he's gonna get sure the ravens i was like if he gets
• 1:05:09
  rid of the ravens and they win a super bowl i will be suicidal
• 1:05:21
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