Latest / Crime Night / Amal and Nader: The Vile Treachery
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, picture this. It is two am. You're in Giza, Egypt.
- 0:04Speaker 1: It's late, supposed to be quiet, but there's this the
- 0:07Speaker 1: sound and wor's this smell. If you were anywhere near
- 0:11Speaker 1: this particular corner, near a small closed up poultry shop,
- 0:14Speaker 1: you'd be hit by this really foul, heavy stench. It's
- 0:18Speaker 1: decay but also something metallic.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Yeah, it's grim and tonight. This smell, this sound, it's
- 0:24Speaker 2: led four really terrified neighbors to bring the police right
- 0:29Speaker 2: to this spot. They're moving quietly towards this specific shot
- 0:32Speaker 2: of the doors locked, and as they get closer they
- 0:35Speaker 2: hear it too. It's a sort of dull, rhythmic banging,
- 0:38Speaker 2: muffled but definitely coming from inside.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Right, and the police they know immediately this isn't just
- 0:43Speaker 1: someone working late. That's smell.
- 0:44Speaker 2: It's overwhelming, like something's been dead a while, but the
- 0:46Speaker 2: banging that suggests someone's currently trying to well get rid
- 0:49Speaker 2: of something. Yeah, so they demand entry. There's a pause.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Then this voice nator he's twenty six, sounds really stressed,
- 0:55Speaker 2: tries to stall them, but.
- 0:57Speaker 1: It's too late for that. The door eventually opens, and
- 0:59Speaker 1: what the officers see is just pure horror Natter is
- 1:03Speaker 1: kneeling on the floor right there next to this big
- 1:06Speaker 1: industrial barrel, you know, the kind for like poultry waste, meat.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Scraps, exactly, except what's in the barrel. It isn't poultry.
- 1:13Speaker 2: It's human remains, and it's methodical, the body of a
- 1:16Speaker 2: man cut into small, almost clinically small pieces. The police
- 1:20Speaker 2: flashlights just catch Natter literally in the act of putting
- 1:24Speaker 2: these pieces into the barrel. Wow.
- 1:25Speaker 1: And the moment he's seen, the whole thing just crumbles.
- 1:27Speaker 1: He confesses right away, identifies the victim, say it abou
- 1:31Speaker 1: El Yazid.
- 1:32Speaker 2: And this right here is where our deep dive really
- 1:35Speaker 2: has to start, because what the police stumbled upon that night,
- 1:38Speaker 2: that gruesome scene, it's the endpoint. It's the climax of
- 1:41Speaker 2: a plan of betrayal that had been meticulously engineered for
- 1:44Speaker 2: get this fifteen years. What we're looking at isn't some
- 1:47Speaker 2: sudden crime of passion. It's the final disgusting stage of
- 1:50Speaker 2: I guess you'd call it a long term financial and
- 1:53Speaker 2: psychological dismantling. So our mission here is to go back
- 1:56Speaker 2: way back to trace this dark partnership, this atomy of
- 2:00Speaker 2: a monster, right from the beginning, Okay.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Let's do that. Let's start with the victim, Sayed Abu
- 2:05Speaker 1: el Yazid, who was he well, he was a science graduate,
- 2:10Speaker 1: came from a pretty wealthy family in Giza, well respected.
- 2:13Speaker 1: After his parents died, he inherited quite a bit, a
- 2:16Speaker 1: big house, two commercial shops, and a good amount of cash.
- 2:20Speaker 1: He seemed focused, you know, working on his PhD, managing
- 2:23Speaker 1: his inheritance, living alone, and.
- 2:25Speaker 2: That's what made him at target, wasn't it being successful,
- 2:27Speaker 2: comfortable and alone. In nineteen ninety five, a mohel comes
- 2:31Speaker 2: into the picture. She's twenty five, and by all accounts,
- 2:34Speaker 2: she was very strategic about it. She knew about Sayed
- 2:36Speaker 2: his status, his situation. She pursued him, like really aggressively,
- 2:40Speaker 2: near where her relatives lived, courted him until he was
- 2:42Speaker 2: totally head over heels and proposed. Marriage was clearly her
- 2:45Speaker 2: first objective.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Access and once they were married, the shift was fast.
- 2:49Speaker 1: She took control almost immediately, presented herself as this really caring,
- 2:53Speaker 1: protective wife, right managing his life and crucially managing all
- 2:56Speaker 1: his money. Siya presumably trusting her, just handed it all over.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Yeah, but those management requests, the financial demands, they started
- 3:04Speaker 2: getting strange. Just relentless. If you look at the timeline
- 3:08Speaker 2: of how she got the assets, it's a clear pattern.
- 3:11Speaker 2: It's strategic. First, she convinces him somehow to sign the
- 3:14Speaker 2: first shop over into her name. Then not long after,
- 3:18Speaker 2: the second shop goes the same way. After that, she
- 3:20Speaker 2: starts pulling out large amounts of gold his cash inheritance.
- 3:24Speaker 1: So just hold on there. When those shops were signed over,
- 3:27Speaker 1: was that just pure greed kicking in or was that
- 3:30Speaker 1: Amal basically setting up her own independent financial base, securing
- 3:34Speaker 1: her future no matter what happened with sex.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely the latter. That's the architecture of the abuse
- 3:40Speaker 2: being built right there. By getting those shops, she guaranteed
- 3:43Speaker 2: her own income stream. She became the owner of the
- 3:45Speaker 2: one with the capitol. Sad was losing his power, his leverage,
- 3:48Speaker 2: very quickly. At that point, all he really had left
- 3:51Speaker 2: was the house they lived in and whatever personal cash remained.
- 3:54Speaker 2: She'd taken almost everything else. And you know, it seems
- 3:56Speaker 2: the only reason she stuck around was to get those
- 3:58Speaker 2: last two things to incredible, almost chilling patients.
- 4:02Speaker 1: Patients that definitely paid off for her. Let's jump forward
- 4:05Speaker 1: about ten years. Amal's now thirty five she's used Sayed's money,
- 4:10Speaker 1: the assets she took to completely change her own life.
- 4:13Speaker 1: She's not just managing a household anymore. She's a serious
- 4:16Speaker 1: local trader right, and her.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Business style tells you a lot about her character. Actually,
- 4:20Speaker 2: it was based entirely on usury. That's lending money at
- 4:24Speaker 2: really high, often predatory interest rates, and she'd secure these
- 4:28Speaker 2: loans with promissory notes. This wasn't about helping people. It
- 4:31Speaker 2: was about control, instant control.
- 4:34Speaker 1: And it's fascinating, isn't it how that cold, hard business
- 4:38Speaker 1: approach bled into her personal life. Like if someone who
- 4:41Speaker 1: borrowed from her was even a day late on a payment,
- 4:44Speaker 1: no second chances, zero.
- 4:46Speaker 2: No grace period, no negotiation, she'd prosecute immediately, sim straight
- 4:50Speaker 2: to prison, absolutely no leniency in business. And we see
- 4:54Speaker 2: that exact same cold calculation turned right back onto her
- 4:56Speaker 2: husband's ay ed.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Especially when tragedy hit him personally. He got s by
- 5:00Speaker 1: this severe illness.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Yeah, really devastating illness that caused him to lose his
- 5:04Speaker 2: sight completely. He became blind, totally vulnerable, and.
- 5:07Speaker 1: With sayad blind and this seems important, his family tides
- 5:10Speaker 1: were basically gone. Nobody was really checking in on him. Anymore.
- 5:13Speaker 1: So Amal saw him not as her husband, her partner,
- 5:16Speaker 1: but just a burden, a liability. She apparently stopped treating
- 5:20Speaker 1: him like a human being at all. Her excuse, it
- 5:23Speaker 1: was chilling. She thought it was like unnatural, unfair that
- 5:27Speaker 1: she had to work while he just stayed home.
- 5:28Speaker 2: It sounds almost sadistic, but it connects right back to
- 5:31Speaker 2: that transactional mindset. You see, Sayid was now in her eyes,
- 5:35Speaker 2: economically useless, so he had to be made productive again,
- 5:39Speaker 2: no matter how degrading. And that's when she took this
- 5:42Speaker 2: just unbelievable step. She forced Siaed to become a beggar.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Using his blindness, exploiting it to get sympathy and money
- 5:49Speaker 1: from people on the streets. And this wasn't just once
- 5:51Speaker 1: or twice, this went on for years. How how do
- 5:53Speaker 1: you even get someone to that point, a man who
- 5:56Speaker 1: was educated, wealthy.
- 5:57Speaker 2: It points to total domination, financial, emotional, physical isolation. He
- 6:04Speaker 2: complied not because he wanted to, obviously, but because Amal
- 6:08Speaker 2: had escalated from verbal abuse to outright physical assault. She
- 6:12Speaker 2: would beat him, strike him repeatedly if he refused to
- 6:14Speaker 2: go out and beg. She created this situation where the
- 6:18Speaker 2: humiliation and danger of begging on the streets was actually
- 6:21Speaker 2: preferable to the violence he faced inside his own home.
- 6:24Speaker 2: He was utterly dependent, and she wielded that. The only
- 6:27Speaker 2: people who seemed to grasp the reality were the neighbors
- 6:30Speaker 2: who saw him out there day after day begging. They
- 6:32Speaker 2: were sympathetic.
- 6:33Speaker 1: So, after fifteen years of this this life, Saya had
- 6:37Speaker 1: finally understood, didn't he the awful truth? Amal was only
- 6:40Speaker 1: still there because she hadn't gotten everything yet, the house,
- 6:42Speaker 1: the last bit of cash. She was just collateral exactly.
- 6:45Speaker 2: But Amal, she's forty now and she's getting wrestless, feels
- 6:48Speaker 2: like her best years are going. Maybe she has the
- 6:50Speaker 2: money now, the power to attract someone new, and she
- 6:53Speaker 2: sets her sights on Nader. He's much younger, only twenty three,
- 6:56Speaker 2: recently married himself, but crucially desperate for money.
- 7:00Speaker 1: So Amal sees him as another opportunity, a tool. She
- 7:03Speaker 1: offers him this investment, money to open and run those
- 7:06Speaker 1: two shops Sayd had signed over years ago when for
- 7:09Speaker 1: poultry won a small farm. Nator, seeing a way out
- 7:12Speaker 1: of his financial problems, jumps at it instantly agrees, but.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Amal, being a mall This wasn't charity. She made him
- 7:19Speaker 2: sign promissory notes for the money she invefted. It's her
- 7:22Speaker 2: classic move, isn't it. She didn't just give him a business,
- 7:25Speaker 2: She put him in her debt, created that financial chain,
- 7:28Speaker 2: so she had complete control over him, just like her
- 7:30Speaker 2: other debtors. He was essentially trapped by her before anything
- 7:33Speaker 2: else even happened.
- 7:35Speaker 1: And the deception just ramps up incredibly fast from there.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Amal spins this story for natter, says, Sayet is just
- 7:41Speaker 1: her ex husband. She's kindly letting him stay because he's sick.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Paints herself as this compassionate woman, completely hiding the reality
- 7:48Speaker 1: of the last fifteen years. Nator likely blinded by the
- 7:51Speaker 1: money an opportunity buys it. They start an affair and
- 7:53Speaker 1: then they get married secretly.
- 7:55Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to be clear about that secret marriage.
- 7:57Speaker 2: It was what's called an or fee marriage for listeners,
- 8:01Speaker 2: that's a type of private marriage in Egypt. It's religiously
- 8:04Speaker 2: recognized but isn't registered with the state, so it lacks
- 8:08Speaker 2: official legal standing, which means their union was totally secret,
- 8:11Speaker 2: easily deniable if needed. It just gave them all another
- 8:15Speaker 2: layer of controlled in.
- 8:16Speaker 1: It impunity The living situation itself is just mind boggling.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Nator and Amal are living as a married couple in
- 8:24Speaker 1: one room, while Saya, her blind legal husband, is living
- 8:27Speaker 1: in the room right next door, and it seems like
- 8:30Speaker 1: their shared lack of morality just clicked. Nator starts joining
- 8:33Speaker 1: Amal and beating Sayid.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Yeah, and to cover this up from the neighbors, they
- 8:37Speaker 2: create this unbelievably cruel fiction. They tell Sayad and force
- 8:41Speaker 2: him to believe that Nator is actually Amal's brother, just
- 8:44Speaker 2: there to help manage things. Amal even forces say to
- 8:47Speaker 2: repeat this lie to the neighbors if they ask. So
- 8:49Speaker 2: the neighbors hear the fights, they see Nator going upstairs,
- 8:52Speaker 2: but they think, oh, that's just the brother dealing with
- 8:54Speaker 2: the situation.
- 8:55Speaker 1: It's the absolute peak of psychological torture, isn't it. He's
- 8:58Speaker 1: living with the man who's secretly married to a who's
- 9:00Speaker 1: beating him daily, and he's forced to lie to protect
- 9:03Speaker 1: his abusers. Under all that pressure, continuous dress, Sayad finally
- 9:07Speaker 1: breaks completely. He signs the house over to them all.
- 9:10Speaker 1: She takes the last of his cash. The strip mining
- 9:12Speaker 1: is finally done. Sayad now has absolutely zero value left
- 9:16Speaker 1: to her, and.
- 9:17Speaker 2: That brings us to twenty thirteen. Amle's forty three, Nader
- 9:20Speaker 2: is twenty six. Sayad is now totally asset stripped, so
- 9:24Speaker 2: they decide the final step is needed. He needs disappear.
- 9:27Speaker 1: They start plotting, and the planning was again disturbingly meticulous.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Early on the day they chose for the murder, Amal
- 9:33Speaker 1: creates this perfect alibi. She makes sure neighbors see her
- 9:36Speaker 1: taking her son to school, Then she goes to her
- 9:38Speaker 1: mother's house stays till the afternoon, multiple witnesses placing her elsewhere.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Nader meanwhile, just opens the chicken shop like any other day,
- 9:45Speaker 1: business as usual.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Later that day, Nader goes back upstairs. He and them
- 9:49Speaker 2: all together assault side until they're sure he's dead. But
- 9:53Speaker 2: there's this absolutely critical, horrifying detail that ultimately seals their fate.
- 9:58Speaker 2: Sayad's own young son. He was there. He witnessed his
- 10:02Speaker 2: mother and Natter killing his father.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Unbelievable, and the plan hits a snag almost immediately. The
- 10:07Speaker 1: idea was to get the body downstairs to the shop
- 10:09Speaker 1: quickly for dismemberment. Beside's body, it was too heavy and
- 10:13Speaker 1: Nator couldn't move it alone, so the body stays upstairs
- 10:16Speaker 1: in the house for full day, decomposing in the heat.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Right, and as the smell starts getting noticeable, really noticeable,
- 10:23Speaker 2: I'm all, puts the second part of her plan into action.
- 10:25Speaker 2: She starts telling neighbors sight is missing, acting worried concern,
- 10:28Speaker 2: and because they were used to him being forced out
- 10:30Speaker 2: to beg his absences weren't immediately suspicious. They initially bought.
- 10:34Speaker 1: It, but by the next evening the smell is just overpowering.
- 10:37Speaker 1: It can't be ignored. So Nator comes up with this
- 10:40Speaker 1: infamous plan, the cabinet Ruse. He goes to the nearby
- 10:44Speaker 1: shop owners the workers, says he needs help moving this
- 10:46Speaker 1: really heavy cabinet from the house down into his shop.
- 10:49Speaker 1: The excuse he claims the cabinet is full of dead,
- 10:53Speaker 1: rotting rats and that's what's causing the terrible smell, and
- 10:56Speaker 1: the neighbors trying to be helpful sympathetic, if they agree,
- 11:00Speaker 1: they help him move this heavy, foul smelling cabinet.
- 11:03Speaker 2: What they didn't know, what they couldn't possibly imagine, was
- 11:06Speaker 2: that they were actually moving Side's body. Nato had wrapped
- 11:09Speaker 2: it hidden it inside the cabinet. They unknowingly helped transport
- 11:13Speaker 2: their murdered neighbor's corpse, thinking they were just dealing with vermin.
- 11:17Speaker 2: The level of cynicism of calculation is just daggering.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Once that cabinet is inside the lock shop, Nater gets
- 11:22Speaker 1: to work, and that's when the neighbors hear the noise again,
- 11:25Speaker 1: that muffled rhythmic banging from the very beginning. That noise
- 11:29Speaker 1: plus the overwhelming stench, plus Siede's sudden disappearance, it finally
- 11:33Speaker 1: clicks for them. Something is terribly wrong.
- 11:36Speaker 2: They knew his routines, they knew about the abuse, even
- 11:39Speaker 2: if they didn't know the full extent. This felt different,
- 11:42Speaker 2: This felt.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Final, and this is really where the community becomes the
- 11:45Speaker 1: hero of this story. Four of those neighbors, putting their
- 11:48Speaker 1: own potential risk aside, they go straight to the police station.
- 11:52Speaker 1: It's two am. They report their suspicions. Their action right
- 11:56Speaker 1: then was the single thing that stopped the entire plant
- 12:00Speaker 1: in its tracks.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Absolutely. The police arriving interrupted the final, ghastly stage. Nader
- 12:06Speaker 2: was literally in the process of mincing the body parts.
- 12:09Speaker 2: The plan was to mix them thoroughly with the chicken
- 12:11Speaker 2: waist in that barrel. Then the regular garbage collectors would
- 12:14Speaker 2: pick it up the next morning. Vanished, no body, no crime,
- 12:19Speaker 2: just another missing person case forever unsolved.
- 12:21Speaker 1: But he was caught red handed. His confession was immediate.
- 12:24Speaker 1: Amal when they arrested her, she initially denied everything, stuck
- 12:28Speaker 1: to her alibi, but the pressure the evidence eventually broke her.
- 12:32Speaker 1: They both tried to shift the blame, of course, minimize
- 12:34Speaker 1: their own roles, but it was.
- 12:36Speaker 2: Useless, completely useless, because the most damning evidence came from
- 12:40Speaker 2: the most heartbreaking source, Sayad's own son. His testimony describing
- 12:46Speaker 2: exactly what he saw his mother and Natir do. It
- 12:49Speaker 2: left no doubt whatsoever about their shared guilt, their calculated cruelty.
- 12:54Speaker 1: The verdict came quickly, and it reflected the sheer horror
- 12:58Speaker 1: of the crime. Amal and Nader were both sentence to death.
- 13:01Speaker 2: You know, if we circle back to the very beginning,
- 13:03Speaker 2: what really stands out is how Saya was effectively killed
- 13:05Speaker 2: multiple times. Wasn't he He was killed financially when she
- 13:08Speaker 2: drained his inheritance. He was killed emotionally spiritually maybe when
- 13:12Speaker 2: he was abused and forced under the streets to beg
- 13:15Speaker 2: and only then only when he was completely stripped of
- 13:17Speaker 2: any perceived value to them? Was he killed physically? That
- 13:20Speaker 2: whole fifteen year relationship wasn't a marriage. It was a
- 13:23Speaker 2: predatory business deal from start to finish.
- 13:25Speaker 1: And it leaves you with a really disturbing thought, doesn't
- 13:28Speaker 1: it for you? Listening? When does a crime planned over
- 13:31Speaker 1: such a long time, executed with such cold, clinical calculation
- 13:36Speaker 1: stop feeling like a human act at all, even a
- 13:38Speaker 1: terrible one? Does that sheer duration and calculation make it
- 13:41Speaker 1: feel less like a crime of passion or rage and
- 13:43Speaker 1: more like just a twisted, horrifying business transaction. It's a
- 13:48Speaker 1: truly terrifying look at human malice, starting with greed for
- 13:50Speaker 1: assets and ending with a body in a waste barrel,
- 13:53Speaker 1: only saved from complete erasure by four neighbors who paid attention.