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Ari Temkin on No. 12 Utah back in action this week vs Kansas, No. 8 BYU surviving TCU + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome in one of our favorite weekly guests from Big
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  Speaker 1: He is Ari Temkin. Welcome back to the show. How
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  Speaker 1: are you, sir?
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  Speaker 4: I'm great. How are you, brother?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. How was your weekend?
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  Speaker 4: It was great. I'm a big White Sox fan, so
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  Speaker 4: I was super pumped about their game one win on
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  Speaker 4: Saturday and looking forward to game two tonight. So hopefully
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  Speaker 4: I can make some more history here. That'd be fun.
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  Speaker 3: All right, well, help us figure out what's going on
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  Speaker 3: in the Big 12 football conference.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, that too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had another interesting weekend of football. I want
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  Speaker 3: to start with the BYU-TCU game because, look, BYU went
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  Speaker 3: on the road against Colorado State, and that counts as
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  Speaker 3: a road game, but also, right, it's not a power
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  Speaker 3: for a competitor. And they somehow got the win in
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  Speaker 3: an absolutely hideous offensive performance for the Cougs.
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  Speaker 1: Now, winning ugly means you have a good team.
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  Speaker 3: Because it's not always going to be perfect, but TCU
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  Speaker 3: had opportunities in this one and seemed like they handed
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  Speaker 3: them back away. They're probably watching film and regretting so
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  Speaker 3: much of what happened in that game. 17-10 victory for
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  Speaker 3: BYU in their worst offensive day in the last five
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  Speaker 3: or so years.
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  Speaker 1: What does it mean for the Cougs and for the
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  Speaker 1: Horned Frogs?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is very much a Rorschach test in terms of,
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  Speaker 4: you know, 10 different people can look at this game
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  Speaker 4: and come up with 10 different things and takeaways from it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if you start on the TCU side, this
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  Speaker 4: has just been an absolutely dreadful season. The biggest piece
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  Speaker 4: to what Sonny Dyches was trying to do this offseason
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  Speaker 4: was exactly what this team is. They have not fixed anything.
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  Speaker 4: They just look different and are far worse and still
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  Speaker 4: turn the ball over too much and, you know, still
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  Speaker 4: can't run the football.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 4: you know, they had some, some big runs in this game,
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  Speaker 4: but ultimately when you look at the totals, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they were not able to really create separation from their,
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  Speaker 4: from their linemen. And so it, you know, it sort
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  Speaker 4: of regresses to what they were last year on the
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  Speaker 4: BYU side. I think the first thing is the status
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  Speaker 4: of LJ Martin, because anything you hope to do this
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  Speaker 4: year rests on the ankles and health of LJ Martin. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this is a guy that when he was healthy,
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  Speaker 4: he was the big 12 player offensive player of the
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  Speaker 4: year last year. And, We see how good this team
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  Speaker 4: is with him, and conversely, we see how poor this
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  Speaker 4: team can be without him. Look, I certainly will chalk
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  Speaker 4: up some of the offensive inabilities of BYU to the
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  Speaker 4: weather in Fort Worth. It was really nasty, but this
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  Speaker 4: was not a great showing for either side. You're just
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  Speaker 4: happy that BYU came away with it. I think there
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  Speaker 4: were a few games this weekend where quarterbacks just willed
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  Speaker 4: their teams to victory, and this was certainly one of them.
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  Speaker 4: Bachmeier did what he needed to do in order to
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  Speaker 4: get the win. and you like what you see. But
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  Speaker 4: they've got a short week here Friday night against Iowa State,
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  Speaker 4: which that'll be a tough one, especially because of what
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  Speaker 4: Iowa State is doing, surprisingly. And then, of course, Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 4: And my hope is, depending on the situation with LJ
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  Speaker 4: that he can be healthy in return for that Notre
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  Speaker 4: Dame game. I'm not so sure about Isaiah Glasker. It
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  Speaker 4: looked like that could be significantly worse because of just
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  Speaker 4: his demeanor on the sideline. He had a towel over
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  Speaker 4: his head. He had a bunch of defense players coming
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  Speaker 4: up to him. That's never a good sign. So you
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  Speaker 4: hate that, but LJ is far more instrumental for the
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  Speaker 4: team's success.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned Iowa state who does come to Lavelle Edwards
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  Speaker 3: stadium on Friday. And that that's a team they're three
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  Speaker 3: and two on the year. They're coming off a very
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  Speaker 3: important win against West Virginia and what was ultimately a
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  Speaker 3: really entertaining game. And, you know, Aiden Flora went off
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  Speaker 3: 22 carries, 212 yards, three touchdowns. He also threw two
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  Speaker 3: touchdown passes. And like, I'm looking at it from a
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  Speaker 3: Utah lens. Do we suddenly say that that Iowa State
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  Speaker 3: win on the road was like a super high-quality win,
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  Speaker 3: or do we just have to take these games in
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  Speaker 3: a vacuum week by week in the Big 12?
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  Speaker 4: No, I think it's definitely aging better from a win.
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  Speaker 4: West Virginia's got some major issues on defense. That's abundantly clear.
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  Speaker 4: They had some of the worst pass defense in the
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  Speaker 4: country the last two seasons. One of those is not
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  Speaker 4: Rich Rod's fault, but certainly last year is, and this
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  Speaker 4: year doesn't appear to be much better. I mean, Jalen Rayner...
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  Speaker 4: who had completed about 54% of his passes on the
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  Speaker 4: season coming into the game, completed 70% of his passes.
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  Speaker 4: He was basically flawless during the football, which is something
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  Speaker 4: we haven't really seen from him all season. I credit
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  Speaker 4: that or chalk that more up to what West Virginia
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  Speaker 4: can't do more so than what Jalen Rayner can do.
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  Speaker 4: The thing we know about Iowa State is they can
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  Speaker 4: play good defense, although they didn't as much in this game.
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  Speaker 4: and they can run the football. And Flora is no joke.
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  Speaker 4: We had him on the show this morning. He's a
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  Speaker 4: former walk-on who's one of the few guys that hung
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  Speaker 4: around Ames. I'm not sure if Campbell invited him to
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  Speaker 4: Penn State or not, but he's one of the few
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  Speaker 4: that stuck with it as a former walk-on, and he's
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  Speaker 4: getting the opportunity now to be a future back. He
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  Speaker 4: was a guy that certainly showed some explosiveness in the
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  Speaker 4: return game last year, and he's, I believe, second in
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  Speaker 4: the league right now in rushing games. He's at eight
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  Speaker 4: yards a carry. It's a ridiculous number that he's at.
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  Speaker 4: So BYU is going to have a handful on Friday night,
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  Speaker 4: even though it is a home game. This is a
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  Speaker 4: really good rushing attack. They're well-schemed.
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  Speaker 1: They're well-coached.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know how many games Iowa State's going
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  Speaker 4: to end up winning. I don't know if they're going
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  Speaker 4: to get to six and get to bowl eligible. But
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  Speaker 4: I think they are going to be a tough out
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  Speaker 4: every single week.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, if you're a Utah fan, you're probably trying to
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  Speaker 3: figure out where you should view that game because you
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  Speaker 3: want your rival to lose, but also I think you
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  Speaker 3: want your rival to be a top 10 opponent when
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  Speaker 3: they come to Rice-Eckel Stadium so that it's a more
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  Speaker 3: quality win for you.
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  Speaker 1: Although, maybe it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: If Utah continues to be consistent the way they have been,
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  Speaker 3: I think that you're probably okay. They had a bye
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  Speaker 3: week last week, so there's nothing new to talk about
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  Speaker 3: necessarily from what we had against that Iowa State in
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  Speaker 3: that Iowa state game, Ari, but you know, based on
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  Speaker 3: what we're seeing in the rest of the big 12 conference,
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  Speaker 3: I guess my takeaway with the youths right now is
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  Speaker 3: I'm surprised with the consistency. They, they have been arguably
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  Speaker 3: the most consistent team through four games.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And they're the team with the two new offensive coordinators
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  Speaker 3: and a totally remade offensive line. It just, it seems
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  Speaker 3: like the excuses are there where they could be inconsistent,
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  Speaker 3: but they haven't been yet.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, and look, I mean, they're going to get
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  Speaker 4: a Kansas team coming to town next week that's fresh off,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the best offensive performance in the history of
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  Speaker 4: the program. And, look, it is Middle Tennessee State, so
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  Speaker 4: take it with a grain of salt. But this was
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  Speaker 4: a team that under Andy Kovalev had been an explosive
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  Speaker 4: rush offense. really as he's been the OC and had
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  Speaker 4: not figured it out yet. So, you know, they may
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  Speaker 4: have figured some stuff out with Dylan Edwards. We'll see.
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  Speaker 4: But I do think that this could be a tougher
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  Speaker 4: opponent than most expect coming in. And I think to
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  Speaker 4: your point, you know, look, Utah has not played the
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  Speaker 4: toughest schedule yet, but they played their schedule. They played
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  Speaker 4: the teams in their schedule. They've beaten them. You know,
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  Speaker 4: and they've beaten them pretty– they've handled teams pretty well.
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  Speaker 4: And I think, you know, this Saturday should be another
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  Speaker 4: test like that where coming out it might look, just
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  Speaker 4: like you said, very consistent– And it should be thought
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  Speaker 4: of as anything other than, yeah, this is what this
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  Speaker 4: team does. They take care of business against the teams
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  Speaker 4: they are supposed to take care of business against. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, look, I think they're very matchup-oriented. I know
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  Speaker 4: you and I have talked about that, where, you know,
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  Speaker 4: one week it's going to be Ficklin and Dampier. Another
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  Speaker 4: week it's going to be LeSean Parker. And they're just
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  Speaker 4: going to go in and figure out defensively what teams
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  Speaker 4: want to do to them and take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 4: And I think, you know, that is more than anything
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  Speaker 4: most important in terms of overall offensive success. Look, there's teams...
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  Speaker 4: You know, like Arizona's a good example, Arizona-Cincinnati. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Cincinnati had one of the best rush offenses in the
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  Speaker 4: Big 12, it was showing, but that did not show
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  Speaker 4: up against Arizona. They completely flipped the script. So I
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  Speaker 4: think teams, you know, that show the ability and capabilities
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  Speaker 4: of being multiple, they just don't necessarily have to do
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  Speaker 4: it week to week. They're the ones, you know, that
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  Speaker 4: are going to be best served right now, and that
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  Speaker 4: certainly is Utah.
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  Speaker 3: So we were talking in the first segment about how
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  Speaker 3: there's like these two parallel races going on right now
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  Speaker 3: with the top four ranked teams in the conference. Because
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  Speaker 3: Utah and BYU play each other, but they don't play
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  Speaker 3: Texas Tech or Oklahoma State. And Texas Tech and Oklahoma
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  Speaker 3: State do play each other, and they miss BYU and Utah.
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  Speaker 3: And then there's Houston that gets in the mix with everybody.
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  Speaker 3: And now Houston is like the ultimate wild card for me.
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  Speaker 3: in a big 12 race. That's going to shape up
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  Speaker 3: over these next few weeks because they do have a
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  Speaker 3: head to head against Oklahoma state. They do have a
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  Speaker 3: head to get ahead here at rice cycle stadium. That's
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  Speaker 3: going to be Utah's first real tough test of the season.
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  Speaker 3: We think, and you know, the Cougars have seen the
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  Speaker 3: Houston Cougars. I should say to clarify, we're not talking
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  Speaker 3: about BYU here. We've seen some good from them and some,
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  Speaker 3: also some head scratching stuff from them.
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  Speaker 1: And their only loss is against Oklahoma. Texas tech, who
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  Speaker 1: was the defending champs and is one.
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  Speaker 3: Of those top ranked teams that we're talking about. So
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  Speaker 3: I guess it's a long winded way of me setting up,
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  Speaker 3: like how good is Houston and will they be a
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  Speaker 3: real factor in the conference championship race?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great question. And I think the short
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  Speaker 4: answer is yes, but the longer answer is a lot
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  Speaker 4: more complicated and a lot more of a, I'm not sure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, let's, let's look at what Houston did with
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  Speaker 4: UCF this week. They were done 17, nothing in the
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  Speaker 4: third quarter of that game. It completely flipped. And I
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  Speaker 4: think some of the reason it flipped was because of
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  Speaker 4: Scott Frost. Some of the reason it flipped was because
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  Speaker 4: of Connor Wigman. I mentioned earlier, Bachmeier would just not
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  Speaker 4: allow his team to lose in that TCU game. Well,
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  Speaker 4: same is true with Connor Wigman in the Houston game,
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  Speaker 4: but it's more of of what we've seen from him
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  Speaker 4: running the football than it was, you know, being great
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  Speaker 4: down the field. Now let's Houston's past defense had been
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  Speaker 4: a major problem at points this season and their defense
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  Speaker 4: played really well in this game. They just found themselves
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  Speaker 4: in a early hole down 17, nothing. You know, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Duke Watson for UCF had a 37 yard carry in
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  Speaker 4: the third quarter of this game, which led to a touchdown,
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  Speaker 4: which put UCF up 17, nothing. At that point, Duke
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  Speaker 4: Watson had nine carries for 50 yards. Duke Watson finished
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  Speaker 4: the game with nine carries for 50 yards. Scott Frost
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  Speaker 4: ran 21 plays following that and did not run the
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  Speaker 4: ball once. Five possessions, 21 plays, 17 yards total, zero
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  Speaker 4: rush attempts. He said after the game they were all RPOs.
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  Speaker 4: It was sort of on the quarterback. He said it's
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  Speaker 4: not really that we didn't call a run, but, man,
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  Speaker 4: at some point you've got to get on the headset
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  Speaker 4: and say run the dang ball because they were running
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  Speaker 4: the ball effectively. Again, 9 of 50 to not see
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  Speaker 4: another carry after a 37-yard carry. sets up a score
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  Speaker 4: to put you up three scores. It's sort of inexplicable. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, again, Houston saw the opening and took it.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't want to take too much away from
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  Speaker 4: Houston because, like we've been talking about, like, you've got
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  Speaker 4: to win your game. You've got to win your clunkers. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this is certainly one of them. The thing is, like...
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  Speaker 4: nobody has looked dominant in the big 12. I think
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  Speaker 4: you mentioned Utah has been the most consistent. I think
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  Speaker 4: that's obvious. Oklahoma state to me is the most complete team,
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  Speaker 4: but they've not been consistent and they're lost to Tulsa,
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  Speaker 4: but they've shown ability to be really good passing the ball.
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  Speaker 4: They showed their ability to be really good on the
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  Speaker 4: ground and they have a really good defense. And that's
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  Speaker 4: been the most consistent part of Oklahoma state. Texas tax
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  Speaker 4: feels like they're, they're flirting with disaster here and they're
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  Speaker 4: about to lose. I think Houston is the same. They're,
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  Speaker 4: they're due for a huge disappointment. And then there's the
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  Speaker 4: two Utah schools. And, and I certainly think they're, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they're as good as they've looked and maybe Utah is
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  Speaker 4: the most consistent out of the bunch.
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  Speaker 1: Should we start talking about Baylor also Ari?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, there, that, For all the good defenses in
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  Speaker 4: the Big 12, man, Baylor's got the best defense. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's dominant, and the offense finally showed some signs of life.
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  Speaker 4: Going into this game, Baylor had not really shown much
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  Speaker 4: in terms of just any offensive firepower with Lagway and
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  Speaker 4: with their running game. They got Rylan Morris, who's their
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  Speaker 4: true freshman. He's a four-star going. He's out of Honeygrove, Texas.
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  Speaker 4: They got him going in a big way in this game. Um,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and, and it feels like once they sort
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  Speaker 4: of broke a few runs, everything opened up for lagway
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  Speaker 4: and he played a really good game. It's tough to
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  Speaker 4: take any credit for him. He played phenomenally, but yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think with this defense, it is so disruptive and look,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Iran is not calling the plays and, and
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of jokes on that in terms of like,
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  Speaker 4: just keep around as far away from the defense as possible.
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  Speaker 4: But this, this defense has ran to fingerprints all over it.
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  Speaker 4: If he's, even if he's not called the plays. It's disruptive.
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  Speaker 4: They play behind the line of scrimmage. They've had guys
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  Speaker 4: get hurt, and it still hasn't mattered. I think they're
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  Speaker 4: number one or number two in the country in tackles
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  Speaker 4: for loss. They're living in the backfield. So I think
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  Speaker 4: you're totally right there. Baylor has shown, especially going on
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  Speaker 4: the road late at night, winning a game like that,
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  Speaker 4: completely dismantling an Arizona State team. That's as good as
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  Speaker 4: Baylor has looked since Durant took over, basically since 2021,
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  Speaker 4: and as bad as Arizona State has looked since they
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  Speaker 4: joined the Big 12.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it's a bit of a crisis point
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  Speaker 3: for Arizona state after Kenny Dillingham showed up in the
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  Speaker 3: desert and shocked everyone and won the conference championship and
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  Speaker 3: looked good in a playoff game. And I was like, ah,
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  Speaker 3: finally my prediction, my longstanding prediction going back to when
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  Speaker 3: you tell was in the, in the PAC 12, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, if anyone gets things figured out at arizona
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  Speaker 3: state that's a wonderful campus it's an easy place to
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  Speaker 3: recruit to you've got a robust high school talent pool
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  Speaker 3: that you can pull from the neighboring communities like somebody
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  Speaker 3: is going to get it figured out at arizona state
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  Speaker 3: again in the year of our lord 2020 something and
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  Speaker 3: now you got to worry about them and i thought
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  Speaker 3: that kenny dillingham did that and then He's fading.
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  Speaker 1: He's falling.
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  Speaker 3: And there was a weird like as he's exiting the field,
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  Speaker 3: kind of like I don't want to microanalyze social media
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  Speaker 3: videos where, you know, he kind of like, well, that
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  Speaker 3: was a lot of fun talking to his athletic director
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  Speaker 3: and university president. And they got dirty looks about it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just like, what's going on with Arizona State? Because
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  Speaker 3: I thought this team was going to put themselves in
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  Speaker 3: the same conversation as Texas Tech and Utah and BYU.
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  Speaker 1: And they're just not.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it starts with their offense.
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  Speaker 5: This offense has just not been very good. Even in
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  Speaker 5: the Kansas win.
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  Speaker 4: In London, the offense was set up with really enticing fields.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Arizona State had a fumble recovery return to
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  Speaker 4: the two-yard line, which obviously set up an easy score.
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  Speaker 4: Early in that game, there was a 17-yard punt by Kansas,
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  Speaker 4: which set up an easy touchdown for Reed Harris. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, even in the games where they've scored some points,
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  Speaker 4: they haven't done it through offense, and it's not one thing.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we could certainly lay blame squarely on Cutter Boley,
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  Speaker 4: and certainly he's got, you know, his culpability in it,
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  Speaker 4: but it's the offensive line. I mean, as long as
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  Speaker 4: Kenny Dillingham has been in Arizona State, they've had really
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  Speaker 4: good offensive lines, they've been able to run the football,
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  Speaker 4: and they've just been... awful at trying to run the ball.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: And then that forces a lot on color. Bully is
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: still very, very inexperienced. I think it'll be telling to
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: see what they do in these next few weeks because,
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: you know, do they transition to Mikey Keene? Who's, you know,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: the experienced quarterback that was battling with Bully, you know,
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: during fall camp, do they go in another direction or
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: do they stick with Bully and kind of help them
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: go through these growing pains and think more long-term with it?
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: I still have a lot of faith and confidence in Dillingham.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: This is clearly the most disappointing team that he's had
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: since they joined the Big 12, and it's not very good.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: I think defensively they expect to be a lot better,
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: and this Baylor game really exposed them in a lot
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: of ways. But for me, it starts at the offense.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: It just has not been very good all year. It
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: starts up front, and they just did not do a
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: good enough job in replacing some of the guys they lost.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: And making their offensive line work because their running game
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: can't go, which now reflects on Bowley, and it just
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: all plays into why they've been bad.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Is Dion on the hot seat yet?
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, he should be. Yeah. Oh man. He should be.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: What's happening outside the lines is inexcusable. And let's start
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: with the Julian Lewis stuff. So it looks like Julian
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: Lewis has played his last nap for the Colorado Buffaloes
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: because however, the whole benching went down, did not go
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: well because you know, So Dion says publicly, oh, I
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: haven't spoken with him.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: What?
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: What does that, what do you mean?
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: What do you mean you haven't spoken to the quarterback
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: that you're benching?
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Like what? And, you know, you're hoping, thinking, like, maybe
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: that doesn't mean what we think it means. Like, maybe
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: it just sounds really bad. But as it turns out,
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: it probably does mean exactly what we think it means
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: because Lewis was the third-string quarterback, and then Dion was
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: asked about it after the game, and he was like,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: we have to ask Juju. No, no, we're asking you
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: because you're available, and you're the coach of this football team. And,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: you know, eventually it was like, Oh, man, did he
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: basically have a falling out with Julian Lewis because of
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: the way that that went down? And it's hard to
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: blame Lewis for that, quite frankly. I mean, if you've
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: got a familial atmosphere that you're trying to peddle at
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Colorado of how much we love each other and blah, blah, blah, blah,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: that doesn't sound very familial. That sounds like a really bad,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: toxic situation. And then I'm sure you heard the story
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: about somebody on Colorado staff basically leaving their playbook, the
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: opening set of plays, at the bar at the Colorado
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: team hotel, the tech fans found. And, and as most
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: figured probably.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: Wasn't anything until that they looked and saw that that
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: was basically the.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Exact script, the opening script of the game. I mean,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: what like this, you can't even make this up how
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: negligible this stuff is. So, you know, look, I I've got,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: I got my face. I expected Colorado to be a
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: lot better. They are absolutely atrocious on offense. In fact,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: the six plays that they leaked were the best six
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: plays in the ballgame because they scored in the opening
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: drive and then didn't score again. Now they have an
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: absolute mess on their hands with Isaac Wilson, of course,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: a guy very familiar in the state of Utah who
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: did not play well once. They really pinned their ears
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: back and came after him. Tack in the second half
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: just decided. we're just going to go all out blitz
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: on every single play. And yeah, it worked because Wilson
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: couldn't do nothing in the second half of that game.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Colorado's got a major problem and they're paying Dion a
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: bunch of money. And even though they haven't got a
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: bunch of money to get out of that and a buyout,
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, at this point, you're almost better off looking
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: at that buyout given, you know, you can't afford to
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: keep him at this point in time because of all
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: the money it's going to take to try to get
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: the players you need in here. You know, we'll see
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: when it's all said and done how many wins he has. But, yeah,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: this is trending in a very wrong direction for Colorado.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, the Big 12 soap opera, so much fun to cover.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: We're lucky to be able to do it. We're lucky
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: to have Ari Temkin join us every single week. Ari,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: thanks for your time as always. You're not making it
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: out to Salt Lake City for this one as a Jayhawk,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: are you?
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: No, not for this one, but I would love to
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: go out for BYU in Utah, man. That's what I'm
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: hoping for. We'll see.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Hopefully you could do that, and we'd love to have
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: you in studio when you get here if.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: You do, all right? Awesome. Nope. That sounds amazing. All right.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Thanks. I appreciate you.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Take care.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I'll see Ari Temkin.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Great stuff as always from a man who hosts big
• 20:00
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