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The Natural Health Industry Has a Problem with Dylan Gemelli · Age Defiantly with Mark Young

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I'm not gonna tell you what you want to hear, I'm gonna tell you what you need to hear
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because if I tell you what you want to hear, I don't care and I do care.
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The natural house space has turned into the same prescription environment
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that the Western medicine world has because, sure, I'm not handing you a drug,
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but I'm telling you that my solution fits every problem.
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And what's happened with influencers?
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Oh, I got this great deal.
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I'm gonna go sell this and do this and do that without knowing what you're selling,
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why, if it's a ripoff or not, and if it's something actually need it.
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Where do you see people's trust-level nowadays of healthcare in general?
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Here's the thing.
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All right, to tell you what we're back with, age-defyingly, the podcast that up,
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tries to get you to age-defying.
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Everybody's right there in the name, right?
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And I am joined today by a very special guest.
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I'm actually super excited to have this guy here because here's where we get
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most health and wellness space people are trying to sell you something.
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Like, everybody's trying to sell, sell, sell.
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There's some destination.
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There's a URL, some place that's getting you there.
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And it's all about you, you'll lose this, lose that, do this, do that, gain this, gain that,
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and so on.
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But I'm over the guy today who's doing none of that.
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And I think it's actually pretty fun to hear him talk about it because
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I'm joined by Dylan Janelli.
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And Dylan, I'm going to read this because they put this stuff together,
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Dylan, in ways that I have a clue.
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So you're going to wonder who this is by the end.
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Dylan Janelli is known in the biohacking world as the wellness revolutionary.
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He's got over 1.5 million Instagram followers,
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a top-ranked podcast that hit number one at Health and Fitness last year
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with it his first year, actually.
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And a fat round of this band's bodybuilding,
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neuroscience, cellular house, hormone optimization in peptide
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greasers, spoken at Mr. Olympia,
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been on the same stages as names like Dave Asperin and Ben Greenfield.
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But what makes him different?
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Aren't his credentials?
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It's that he's willing to go where most health educators
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walked.
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It's the hard, the nuanced, and sometimes the uncomfortable truths that are actually there
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that actually help people perform at a high level, especially at a higher age.
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And that's the conversation we're about to get into.
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And I'm going to tell you, preemptively, what I love about this guy is
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it's not about how specifically it's not about psychology specifically.
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It's not about spirituality specifically.
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It's about all of it.
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It is the interconnectedness of all of those things.
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And Dylan, I'll just start by telling you, I'm the contrarian in every room.
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And I suspect we may have that in the common.
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Because the minute somebody comes to me and says,
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Oh, I'm having this problem with my sleep.
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Like, my first responses has nothing to do with the physiology of sleep.
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My first response is, it's going on in your life.
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Yep.
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Like, talk to me about what's going on in your head.
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Talk to me about what's going on in your spirit.
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Like, talk to me about those things.
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Because your experience in a physiological symptom,
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I suspect it's not a physiological bird.
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And yet, people aren't willing to get into the root of what's going on very often.
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And I said that the contrarian, because they're looking here.
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And I'm like, I always tried to be the way in Kretsky, right?
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Like, I'm staying where the puck's going out and where where you're looking.
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And I suspect this is how you approach most things,
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having watched a lot of your content.
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Yeah.
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Tell me, who's Dylan?
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How did you get there?
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Why do people listen to you about that stuff?
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Well, it's not because I have 900 different letters after my name or any of the sort.
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I am the guy that just basically has always said one thing.
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I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear.
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I'm going to tell you what you need to hear.
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Because if I tell you what you want to hear, I don't care.
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And I do care.
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My college basketball coach put it best to me.
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And this was a hard truth.
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He said, look, if I'm not on you,
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if I'm not yelling at you or coming at you,
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it means I don't notice you because you're not worth the effort for me to put into.
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I see something special in you and I'm going to push you to get it out of you.
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And so the work complacency, I don't find that in my vocabulary.
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I was always the guy that when I worked at a sales job,
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you know how most sales jobs you have a quota.
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And everybody tries to reach that quota.
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And then they think they can skate on by.
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And it's like, oh, we reached it.
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But table stakes, yeah.
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For me, that's when it's time to roll.
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We make our money after we hit the quota.
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That's when it just starts.
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Absolutely.
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There's never in the end.
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There's always something to work for.
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Persist perfection is not attainable.
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There's always something to move on to and to chase and to go after.
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And so for my type, sometimes it's a huge blessing.
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Sometimes maybe overdrive too much.
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And you know, my wife and family mom,
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everybody will attest to that because that's kind of their big complaint with me now.
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But I would say that that's the worst complaint.
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Well, it could be far worse, right?
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Thanks.
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But you know, it's one of those things where I fully believe that life at South is trial and
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everything that we do, everything you teach that I teach, there's going to be some error.
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And it's what we learn and what we're willing to accept as we know that's going to change.
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You have to be able to change with time.
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It's like the coach that was so good for so long, but refuses
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to go with the flow of what's happening now.
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It's so funny.
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You say that because recently, and I want to get back to something you said a moment ago,
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but you talk about the coach and I've been working with this company.
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It's got this amazing house platform.
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I'll show you about it later.
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But they've got an investor is like, this is the way it's done.
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This is the way it's done.
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Like this is how you market because we've done this once before with some completely
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unrelated company.
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And this is the way you do it.
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And I'm like shaking my head and I'm talking with CEO completely agrees with me.
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I'm like, you don't understand.
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That's why there's entire playbooks.
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They had a page or there's a page in the playbook that they can't quick play.
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Yeah, but this is a book and the entire what page you're on changes,
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depending on who's the enemy.
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Thank you.
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Every single page is a different play and it is appropriate.
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Every one of the plays in that book are appropriate.
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In circumstances, rights, but this is circumstance doesn't match.
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It plays a role.
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You're making me think of Madden because my dad used to do that when I was a kid.
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He found one play I couldn't stop.
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And he keep doing to do to finally figure it out.
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Then guess what?
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He didn't know what to do anymore because if somebody will figure out your play.
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I'm taking that pivot for me real quick.
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Yes.
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So I've used those executive words in a spiritual realm.
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And the argument that I have is we believe in the divine boat.
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We believe in the divine evil, right?
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Like did it?
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There's the out of the juxtaposition there.
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And the enemy of our soul doesn't need to learn new ways to harass us on a daily basis.
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It's the same thing over and over.
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And people have this mindset.
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But why does this struggle keep happening?
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Because they're adding that to it.
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Yeah.
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It's addiction.
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It's any of the things that people struggle with.
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And it's because the same play keeps working.
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That's right.
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There's no reason to bother you in some other area.
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Like I'll complete your career alone because your marriage is broken.
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I'll just keep hammering your marriage over and over again if that's what it takes.
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But from a spiritual standpoint, from a relational standpoint, from a health standpoint,
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it's usually the same thing that is tearing people back.
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It's over and over and over again.
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And for some people, that's it's sugar-diction.
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Whatever it is.
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But I love that.
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You're saying like that playbook.
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Yeah.
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Well, in two, you also have to be prepared at all times because
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you do conquer things.
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You have that innate ability.
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We all have it.
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It's a matter of just sitting down and doing it.
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But something else is going to present itself as soon as you get past that.
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I did this thing when I got out of prison and I really changed who I was.
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I started to pat myself on the back way too much.
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And I was telling myself, man, you stop doing this.
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You stop doing that.
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Well, but then I created several other things that I look back on now when it was like,
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you just went into something else or you just did it.
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Yeah, but I looked past it because I kept telling myself how great I was
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for stopping something that I should have been doing in the first place.
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And then I replaced it with just this became more of a
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behavioral thing as opposed to, you know, drugs and things that I was doing before.
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But it continued on because I got complacent, despised that word.
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And I gave myself so much credit.
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You've got to stay humble throughout everything that you do.
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One of the things that you said that frustrates me when you were talking about the marketing.
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And I just did a video on this and it's very important.
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And there's a reason that I did it.
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And it's not because I'm perfect is because I see everything.
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And what's happened with influencers, right?
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Is you don't understand what that terminology meets.
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See, one of the things that I learned and that's funny who I learned is from.
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I learned it from Colin Cowell.
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I just saw that video the other day.
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You just did it recently.
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Yeah, I just put it up.
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Yeah, it says, oh, it's so exaggerated.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So Colin Cowell does a sports show and some of his takes are completely insane.
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But he does this, this specific thing.
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And he breaks it down to where it wins his argument.
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But he takes words and he, and you have to listen and put the word out there.
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And that you understand what it actually meets.
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Because terms just get thrown around.
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We don't even know what the hell they mean, right?
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What does influencer mean?
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It means that you have an influence over people's decisions on their health and their finances.
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So you think, oh, I got this great deal.
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I'm going to go sell this and do this and do that without knowing what you're selling.
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Why?
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If it's a ripoff or not.
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And if it's something actually need it.
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And people are doing that left and right.
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Now what's happened is something that started off as great,
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which we see all the time has now become completely polarized in opposite to
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where everybody's jaded.
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Just like the supplement industry because of all the bad marketing.
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And now it's viewed upon as something that it shouldn't be because people
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have tarnished the name.
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Sean and I are a mutual friend.
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Dr. Sean, we were talking earlier this morning actually because we were listening to
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some of the stage stuff.
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And this is, we're here at the changing life and destiny conference right now.
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But the Sean made a comment earlier.
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We kind of were going back and forth about it.
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Is that the natural health space has turned into the same prescription environment
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that the Western medicine world has?
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Because, sure, I'm not handing you a drug.
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But I'm telling you that my solution fits every problem.
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We're mass polling people and telling them that everything I sell fixes every problem.
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And it's like, well, yeah, that's what the drug industry has been doing for years.
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And this entire industry of natural health, he's evolved out of that.
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Or in response to that, I think in many ways.
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And yet, behaviorally, we look the same right now.
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Yeah.
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Like, here you go.
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Sure, I'm not selling you a drug.
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But did you try it as a tide?
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This is the peptide.
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Go take your peptide.
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That is like, well, what's the difference that you take your peptide versus take your grub?
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They go, what's the difference?
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Other than, you know, we know that there's a natural
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layer of peptides where we're talking about it's protein as opposed to
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a pharmaceutical, which is synthetic.
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Sure, I get it.
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But at the same time, we're starting to do the same thing.
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Here's my page, not a whole playbook.
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And influencers to that point are selling a page often.
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Yeah.
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It's hypocritical in such a multitude of ways.
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Because we're telling people,
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get away from conventional.
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They do this, they do this, they do this.
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But then you're shoving something else down.
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Some of these throughout the way may not need you know, like now it's to the point.
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And I say this, I have an intertwining because there is a need of conventional and not
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conventional.
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There is a use.
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The problem with the conventional is isn't like, I'm going to use a statin as an example.
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They just look for their number to be a couple points off so they can put you on it.
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So now look a lot of these supplements or whatever it is that people are trying to sell.
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And they make you feel like everybody needs it.
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There's a few things when it comes to our cells and our gut.
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Those things really control our health and total.
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So if we're looking at something that's going to fix those,
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I'm going to be a lot more apt to listen to that than somebody that's trying to sell
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me the greatest protein power or the greatest that we all supposedly need.
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You know what I mean?
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There's so many things that don't really correlate, but one small niche of health.
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I'm going to ask you something because everything that we've discussed so far about
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things are all additive.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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One of my philosophies is that the best way to get into biorech is to subtraction that are just
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now addition.
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There you go.
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There you go.
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You know, people will ask me all the time like, well, you know,
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natural health is too expensive.
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I'm like, really?
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They'll let what are the top three things you do?
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And I'm like, well, sleep, movement, and fasting.
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And I get these questions like, well, no, those are my favorite three biorechs.
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I'm like, and if they hadn't done those three,
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please stop shopping for all the rest of them.
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Right.
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But because first of all, all of them are going to actually save you money.
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It's like, many of those things are going to hurt you.
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All of those things are free.
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And they all are restorative because there's no point in optimizing.
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If you haven't already got through Vanity Presented Press,
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hey, you're trying to optimize it 45%.
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Like, yeah, that's ridiculous.
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But my question to you is like, I mean, you promote products.
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I mean, there's things you believe in.
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There's things that you from Oaton, you know,
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I'm sure that you've well researched all of them in order to get there.
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What are your subtraction or vices?
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What are the things that you would tell people that don't even start
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until you get rid of whatever.
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Well, sure, some of the answers are obvious.
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But you hit it specifically.
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This was what I always struggled with because when I started into all of this,
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it was with bodybuilders, which is just, I went on to just,
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I jumped in light, jumped in way too heavy, way too fast.
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But actually, it shaped me to do what I do now.
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And it's actually made me far more suitable to handle this environment.
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Because I went through the worst of rare.
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You could kind of through to start it.
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I don't think people, I'm going to say some to their replace.
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I don't think most people realize that they think bodybuilders are peak health.
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And I don't think most people realize that bodybuilders,
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although muscular lean, are some of the worst healthy people,
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if I don't have a phrase that they're,
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they're in some of the worst health and anybody up their mental and physical.
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Correct.
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And they have, and I don't, I don't want to say they like it's
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every single one to make the majority.
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And I can assure you that's a valid state because I lived it for 10 years.
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The majority of them have one simple focus.
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And it's based upon the now today without zero care,
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or worry about anything long term.
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And the things they tell other people that are okay.
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No, because when you've turned pro,
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this is a well-known fact that you're not going to do it without steroid use.
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And as much as I hate to agree with that,
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I don't like to agree with that.
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It is a brutal fact of life that there's very, very, very, very few.
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They will ever have the genetic makeup and output
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to make it pro without steroid use.
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That's what it's become.
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I'm not saying before that that was a possible,
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it's not possible now, right?
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Well, good stakes at you.
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It's way different and everybody does it.
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And what happens is, is with this kind of use,
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and what they do to their bodies,
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they're shading years off of their life.
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And you'll see, as soon as they age,
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one, susceptible to injury.
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And I'll tell you why,
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because of the massive amount of muscular growth
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and the amount of food that they're eating
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has put so much pressure on joints, ligaments, and tendon.
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Connective tissues can't keep up.
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No.
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And you'll notice that they all have all these nati injuries
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the rest of their life too.
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They degrade their bone density gone.
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Their hormones are always going to be off balance.
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And you just start to see them shrivel.
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And people, let's go, they stop taking service.
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That's part of it.
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But the other part of it is physiologically,
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they were in a state that they could have never,
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you're not supposed to be at.
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And then you also have,
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I'll just give you a small little lesson here
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on anabolic steroids that are in the oral form.
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So, should take an oral steroid,
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it has to become C-17 alpha-alcalized,
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meaning there's structurally it's changed
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and modified so it can pass through the liver.
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Well, when that happens,
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it creates this extreme level of methylation and toxicity.
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So, you'll see this hammering of liver,
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kidney's cholesterol, blood pressure.
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Liver's resilient,
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but with that kind of pressure and stress over time,
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you'll see liver, kidney issues,
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but you'll also see atherosclerosis.
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You'll see these heart problems in large men of the heart.
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That's why a lot of the WWF wrestlers that died
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and that the steroid use along with the painkillers
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and the cocaine use altogether,
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but the steroids were a key factor in that
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because of what they did long-term.
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And so, when you're using these types of things
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and you have no concept of what they're doing to you long-term,
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that's why you see short name of life.
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So now, how do we correlate that to what's going on now?
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What's crazy is, as I've had this conversation now,
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I don't know if you've ever heard of me screen,
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they do the mitochondrial test
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and Sean Fetcho is the founder and he told me
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that the people with the worst scores,
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aside from one person that was Ben Greenfield, actually,
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because of something special that he had in his blood,
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they have the worst scores he's ever seen
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in the mitochondrial test, the biohackers,
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because they take 85 million different things
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without the focus on what do we need,
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like I was saying, core structurally cellular.
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You want to focus on cellular.
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That's the most important to me.
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Then, secondarily, I would have the primary focus on God.
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Now, there's certain things that we have to have,
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you like magnesium electrolytes vital,
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like these are things that we need,
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your teeth, your vitamin D, which,
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sunlight, we need to get more so than supplementation,
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right, but these are B complexes.
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These are the things of vital importance,
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but start cellularly, then look at the God
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and then for me, creatine's the biggest one.
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You know, that for brain husks,
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they didn't be out at muscle house, so that's it.
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Because neurologically, I can fix your cellularly,
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I can fix your God.
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I can fix your fitness and your diet,
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but if you're neurologically off,
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that is all for not, my friend,
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breached.
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Yeah, because you know what happens
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with stress and cortisol and inflammation.
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Well, and again, you'd mention the biohackers
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and mitochondria else,
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because they're like mitochondria and mitochondria.
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Like, that's like everybody buzz word nowadays
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and now for it means facts.
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But, but the other side of that,
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it's get back to that addition instead of subtraction.
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You asked, I'm like every single person
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who ever comes to me and they have
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topic of supplementation and peptide scans
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at all the time, when people know you work in the space,
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you've become everybody's prior position.
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You know, what should I be taking?
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And then I feel like a jerk responding to it sometimes,
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because my answer is, I don't know,
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I don't know your biology.
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No.
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Well, I mean, what should I mean, everybody should take
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it some basics, right?
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Mike, I don't know for you,
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because I don't know what you're getting
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through nutrition.
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That goes back to the influential thing.
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So, I used to 100% when I,
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so I started on YouTube and I've discussed
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steroids, peptides, and sharks.
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No, he was discussing these online
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and everybody used to write me,
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well, what should I run?
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Well, what should I run?
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And I see other people respond
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and lay out these big stacks in the live brother.
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That's irresponsible.
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Yeah, I don't know a thing about you.
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I would always start with this
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with the steroid stuff,
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age, height, weight, body fat.
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Immediately, if you're under,
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under 30, really, I'm telling it,
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don't even look at the steroid.
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And I can tell you why later.
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And then body fat.
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So, the higher your body fat,
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the more susceptible you are to estrogen-cute person
20:01
and the more susceptible you are to the chances
20:03
where you have higher blood pressure,
20:04
higher cholesterol.
20:05
So, all of these factors have to play in.
20:07
I'm not going to recommend you to do all of this
20:09
when you're already screwed up.
20:11
So, sane factors relate to what we're taking
20:13
like you're talking about.
20:14
I don't know your family history.
20:16
I don't know your hormone panels.
20:17
I don't know anything on your blood work.
20:19
And without that, I can't justify
20:21
if we give you an accurate answer
20:23
that would keep my credibility.
20:25
And we sleep well at night.
20:26
I'm going to connect you with a company
20:29
that I work very closely with.
20:30
It's new I'll call Ruger IQ.
20:32
But it is literally every one of the things
20:35
that you just mentioned
20:36
and how using AI to help analysis.
20:39
But it is, it's labs.
20:41
Yeah, obviously.
20:42
But it's genetics and epigenetics.
20:44
It is family trauma.
20:45
It is a, it's diet.
20:48
It is, you know, just hit,
20:49
it literally is pulling in every lens
20:52
of who the person is.
20:53
And try not to myopically look.
20:55
And like from a, we talked about it from an angle
20:57
that is that the visual picture that I put before
21:00
then was the picture of a doctor looking at you
21:03
and saying, I don't see the problem.
21:05
But the camera is from the other direction.
21:07
If you see this knife and the guy's batman.
21:10
And the doctor saying, I don't see an issue.
21:11
No, I didn't think where you don't
21:13
because it's on the other corner.
21:15
You're not used to looking in that direction.
21:17
And all of these things have value
21:20
and they all have relevancy in the conversation.
21:22
Yes.
21:23
And we can't treat people in my speech.
21:26
And you almost have to be a psychologist on top of like,
21:30
I feel like with you're doing functional health.
21:32
Like if you're a real true functional,
21:34
you almost have to have both key aspects.
21:37
You can't just know the body and fitness.
21:40
And one of the things I regret, but I'm happy I learned so well now
21:44
is I never took the focus on the neurological side
21:47
like I do now and we're peace it together.
21:49
So for instance, let's just use the steroid use, for example,
21:53
you go through a blood panel in charts and family history, you go,
21:56
okay, even I always explain to people that I coached
22:00
because I had to sign a lot of NDAs.
22:02
They'd bring me and they know what it's for to coach.
22:05
But I never looked at how aggressive are you?
22:09
How are you mentally like, is there instability?
22:13
And they were underage.
22:15
Well, that, but you might this certain steroids
22:18
that can really affect you neurologically in multitudes
22:22
of ways, not just the things that the media puts out.
22:25
Like you said, red register something real,
22:27
but there's other key factors.
22:28
They're depression that can kick in.
22:30
You may want to end up suicidal.
22:33
Well, in later in that nervous system response,
22:37
yeah, let's see, because you're talking in neurology
22:39
of these types of things that just claim absorption
22:43
of these types of things, changes depending on your,
22:46
your nervous system response.
22:47
Like people who are living in the sympathetic nervous system
22:50
don't absorb through the gut.
22:52
The same way that other people are going to is,
22:54
means telling you what to take is irrelevant.
22:56
If I don't also understand your state of mind, yeah,
22:59
it's mean you're, you're not absorbing.
23:01
And people thought we'd realize that even nutrition
23:04
is affected by nervous system.
23:05
Say, yes, because that that just function in your body
23:08
is not functioning the same way that it should.
23:11
If you are always in this heightened sense of where
23:14
does this firefight response to people in leaning?
23:16
I want to go back to something you said,
23:18
but way probably the first sentence of this conversation
23:21
will already be ran off for the resignation.
23:23
I'm under touch, which is we even do it.
23:25
It all works and all works.
23:27
You said something specific about the trust that people have
23:30
because of supplement marketing and so on and so forth.
23:33
And there is, there's a relational aspect.
23:37
Maybe this links into what you're talking about,
23:38
but being an influencer.
23:40
But where do you see people's trust level
23:43
nowadays of healthcare in general?
23:46
Because they're beking this giant distrust
23:49
in the medical community.
23:50
I think COVID taught everybody not to trust anybody.
23:54
You know, if I'm a very good lesson to learn very,
23:56
like, is what it is, but at this point I'm like,
23:58
cool, like at least that's the silver lining.
24:01
Let's take it.
24:01
Yeah, fast forward or six years from now.
24:06
If you pay even the, that's the blows my mind
24:08
that then six years ago.
24:09
But six years later, we've got a Bobby Kennedy FDA.
24:15
We, we're not FDA, but I'm not going to carry it.
24:17
The body can be health department.
24:19
It gets lots of changes in the way the conversation.
24:22
We flip the food pyramid upside down.
24:24
We've got, you know, now we've got a psychotropics
24:28
and everything starting to move in.
24:30
And then Plaint Medicine getting regulated and peptides.
24:32
All like so much has changed in that period of time.
24:36
But where do you think consumer trust is long?
24:41
Is it better?
24:42
Is it worse?
24:42
Is it just more?
24:43
Is it more noise?
24:44
Like, here's the thing.
24:47
No matter what we do, no matter how loud we say it,
24:51
there's always going to be voices that oppose.
24:54
And the opposition tries, as hard as it can,
24:58
to get into the heads of others to tell them
25:01
that something is crazy,
25:03
that it is completely opposite of what we're supposed to do
25:07
because multitudes of reasons.
25:09
One, it's just a lack of understanding.
25:12
Two, it's a money thing.
25:13
Three, it's a forceful thing, right?
25:15
Where the misleading,
25:19
people are standing out more than they have in quite a long time.
25:24
The voices that were once louder in opposition are being opposed.
25:28
Way more now than the other word, there's less fear
25:32
and that is making people actually have a harder understanding now
25:37
of what's going on because there's two sides flying and at once.
25:40
And then the credibility,
25:42
which I was talking about earlier,
25:44
ties right into this question
25:46
because you still have bad act or selling stuff all the time
25:50
without really driving trust.
25:53
That's why when I do work and I sell everybody,
25:57
I try to be an arbiter of truth in everything that I do.
26:00
I am so far from perfect, it's insane.
26:03
But I'll tell you this,
26:04
motive-wise is why I work with so few companies,
26:08
while I push so few of things,
26:10
it has to be something that I firmly believe it and I'm tight with.
26:13
But I study comments for one purpose and one purpose only.
26:18
I don't give, excuse me, a shit.
26:21
What anybody takes a shot at me,
26:22
but I do care about their concerns.
26:24
And it's one word and one word only, confusion.
26:27
If you go down and look
26:29
under profiles of people with a huge following
26:32
that make a major impact,
26:34
there's two things going on.
26:35
One, they're being insulted
26:36
because they're promoting 75,000 products.
26:38
But two, it's people,
26:40
just normal everyday people saying,
26:43
can I even eat anything anymore?
26:44
Can I even take anything anymore?
26:46
Like this thing's $800 a month
26:48
and this thing's $900 a month
26:49
and this is this, this, this, this.
26:51
So the trust that we work so hard to get,
26:54
we've ruined.
26:56
And that's why I come in
26:58
and I try to be a difference maker.
27:00
Now, it takes more than one voice,
27:01
but I got a law one
27:03
and I am fearless because I know God protects you.
27:05
When I say I'm fearless,
27:07
I'm fearless to the point where it's controlled.
27:09
It's holy spirit driven.
27:11
It's not me out there trying to prove a point
27:13
like some people have to have a lot of weight.
27:15
I don't care about pride,
27:16
I don't care about anything.
27:17
I don't care about accolades
27:18
or anybody telling me I'm great.
27:19
I don't care.
27:20
What I do care about is that people see
27:24
what is true and what is not.
27:26
And then I see on faces
27:28
when somebody comes up to me
27:29
and tells me Dylan,
27:30
you changed my life.
27:31
Dylan, like thank you for doing this.
27:33
That is why I do what I do.
27:36
Because you said before,
27:36
it's not, I'm not selling a class.
27:39
People break me all the time.
27:40
I want me to coach him.
27:40
I physically can't anymore
27:42
because I don't have the time.
27:43
I tried to do what I can.
27:45
I'm not selling anything.
27:47
I'm bringing white and truth.
27:49
I will recommend you the things that I use
27:52
and the people that I believe in,
27:54
which like I said,
27:55
it's few and far between,
27:56
but it is serving a purpose.
27:58
And the purpose here has lost its way.
28:01
The purpose is supposed to be
28:03
everybody you see at this conference.
28:05
Everybody that's fought so hard
28:07
to finally have a voice
28:09
then takes advantage of what we got.
28:12
Why take advantage of something
28:13
that was so hard to get?
28:15
We can all work together.
28:16
You're going to make money by doing good
28:19
and then you're going to save people
28:20
money at the same time.
28:21
We would just talk.
28:22
Our team was talking the other day about C.
28:25
I mean, I hate, I don't,
28:26
I don't need to take a shot at the industry.
28:28
Y'all know, right?
28:29
We're obviously all playing it.
28:30
Yeah, it was like,
28:31
there's some bad actors.
28:33
Yes, there's some bad actors.
28:34
And the thing is,
28:35
is what I never want to see is that
28:37
the bad actor here and there
28:39
and that you know, the person
28:40
who's peddling 75 things over here,
28:42
like, sure, all those things,
28:44
you know, they happened in every community.
28:46
Like, we tend to focus on them
28:49
and they become the highlight real
28:51
of the people we dislike.
28:53
Yeah, so when you've got the people
28:54
that are taking shots at the natural
28:56
house community,
28:56
they know exactly who to shoot at.
28:58
Yeah, they know those.
29:00
You know, they especially went
29:01
and they'll use the Peter Atilla thing
29:02
recently.
29:04
Yeah, they came with Huffin,
29:05
like, that's a huge black eye
29:06
on an industry.
29:07
When, in fact, nothing Peter Atilla did,
29:10
had anything you do with anybody
29:12
else in this industry,
29:13
right?
29:13
Like, that's what happens, though.
29:14
Correct.
29:15
Then it's a very bad one saying,
29:16
and money is seductive.
29:19
And we do see a lot of people
29:20
that come into the space with good intention.
29:23
I know several people who've gotten
29:25
it into the space and, you know,
29:26
the goal of a business,
29:28
you know, most businesses start
29:29
so that they can sell the business.
29:30
They want their moment.
29:32
Most consumers don't need to know
29:33
when the business got sold.
29:35
No, here's what I can't stand.
29:37
Is when you come on here and say,
29:40
well, I don't care about money.
29:41
I don't care about my look.
29:42
Everybody's got to survive.
29:44
When you tell me that,
29:45
I automatically don't trust you.
29:47
We all care about it.
29:48
We all have to or we don't live.
29:50
But you can make it wherever everybody wins.
29:52
I am certainly going to get paid
29:54
for all the time and effort that I do
29:56
and everything else.
29:57
But I'm also not going to abuse it.
29:59
And I'm not going to let it dominate
30:01
everything I do.
30:01
What I work for God,
30:02
because that's who I work for,
30:04
that stuff takes care of itself.
30:06
And now instead of misusing money
30:09
and worrying about what everybody thinks
30:11
about how many shoes and everything else I have,
30:13
I will always want to dress nice
30:15
because I want to be presentable
30:17
and because I'm comfortable that way.
30:18
But I'm not buying off the Gucci store
30:20
or whatever else.
30:21
My money is saved so that we're secure as I get older
30:25
and it's being put back into what I do
30:27
so I can get nice equipment to record
30:29
so I can travel so we could do this
30:31
so I could be here.
30:33
So yeah, if I'm bringing a company money
30:35
but I'm only going to bring a company money
30:37
that I know deserves it
30:39
that's helping people that's doing it.
30:41
So yeah, every human has to get paid.
30:43
So I can't stand when people make comments and stuff.
30:47
Yeah, nobody works free, dude.
30:49
Like, so stop it.
30:50
You don't work free.
30:51
You work for somebody that's selling something.
30:53
See, people like to throw stones around
30:55
and it pisses me off to no end
30:57
because they're doing the same thing.
30:59
Every human has to work, but it's what you're motive.
31:02
What are you working for?
31:03
Who are you working for?
31:04
Well, it's my getovers.
31:06
Use the phrase, you know,
31:06
you can do well while doing good.
31:08
That's right.
31:09
There's no reason for somebody.
31:11
There's no virtue and poverty.
31:13
Yeah, but there's no reason
31:15
that you can't do good at the same time.
31:17
One of the same things, you know,
31:18
you as an influencer, I run marketing agency full time
31:21
and it's like, I don't want clients who I don't like.
31:24
No, I don't want to deal with people at all.
31:27
I know I won't deal with products.
31:28
I don't think are amazing.
31:29
No, because it's yield.
31:31
Every single product that we have
31:33
or service or whatever that we've ever represented,
31:37
I will personally use.
31:38
Dude, like, you have it.
31:40
I won't personally use you a product
31:42
when I think there's better out there.
31:43
We're not a match.
31:45
Well, here's what I did.
31:46
Here's what I did.
31:48
I don't want to throw a bunch of brands
31:50
on that somewhere in Japan,
31:51
but everybody knows who I'm associated with by now.
31:53
My, the first big contract I had was with timeline.
31:56
And you know what I did?
31:58
I went to Harvard and studied at night class
32:00
and studied cellular.
32:01
I studied biology and cellular mitochondria health.
32:04
And then, Dr. Yerth Elizabeth Yerth put me in a class
32:09
and I became a cellular health coach.
32:11
Then I worked with Dr. Dave Raven.
32:12
I still work with timeline, by the way,
32:14
because I believe so much in the cellular side of things.
32:17
And I know that they actually had the studies the time.
32:20
And I work with Dr. Dave Raven on the neuroscience.
32:23
And then I went to Arizona State and studied neuroscience.
32:26
So I know what I'm doing.
32:27
So I'm a walking, talking billboard of what I live.
32:30
And I believe in it and I use them every single day.
32:34
And I never stop without fail.
32:35
I don't just go, oh, look at this.
32:38
This is what I got today.
32:39
And then I throw it off to the side and never touch it.
32:42
I would say that should be the way things are.
32:44
I'm riding.
32:45
People should be the most knowledgeable people on the fun.
32:48
And that's why I see celebrity influencers
32:51
and all this other kind of stuff.
32:52
You're doing it for paycheck.
32:53
Like, you had no idea what you're talking about,
32:56
but you got a good deal.
32:57
Yeah, it's a promoted product.
32:59
I'm going to stop you for a second
33:01
because you just said something.
33:02
I hit a trigger and you did.
33:04
No, it's nothing, nothing bad.
33:06
That term celebrity, what the hell is a celebrity?
33:09
The celebrity, you're me as the person that goes out
33:11
and makes this significant difference.
33:13
It's not somebody that acts.
33:14
And you know what, I just had this conversation.
33:16
What does an actor do?
33:18
They act.
33:19
They act.
33:20
It's not a reality.
33:21
They act.
33:22
I, the celebrity, to me, a you,
33:24
it's somebody that is making a difference.
33:26
It's Sean out there.
33:27
It's making a significant difference.
33:29
That's a celebrity.
33:30
Did Mary?
33:31
Well, well, she's the phrase that the currency of success
33:33
is in fact, hmm, that, I don't care what I'm on
33:35
much money, Natalie.
33:36
How would you have backed to the world?
33:37
That's just it.
33:38
Can you make this place better?
33:40
How, how is being an actor or whatever,
33:42
or idea that what, what are you doing for anybody?
33:46
Seriously, so that I don't,
33:48
I don't get in awe of anybody
33:50
because every single person is the same.
33:53
I, I used to, just like anybody else.
33:55
And what I found was,
33:56
A, I became more disappointed with what I,
33:58
What about you here else?
33:59
Yeah, you never do.
34:01
And I, and I was telling you about the kids
34:03
that I went and did the interview with.
34:04
Well, my point was is when the way they reacted
34:09
that I was even there.
34:10
It almost broke my heart because I'm like,
34:12
I told them I, I really, it was important to me
34:15
to show them what a humble,
34:17
huge person with humility and that everybody
34:20
should live that way.
34:20
And I, I told Queenie when I got done and I said,
34:23
man, I hope that I, it over exceeded
34:26
their expectation of what they got to where they,
34:29
they, they got somebody on there
34:30
that they felt was like something so special
34:33
and so like up here.
34:35
And I wanted them to know,
34:36
no, I'm right here with you in the same spot.
34:38
But I do want to inspire you and teach it.
34:41
But at the same time, I'm good at what I do.
34:45
You're good at what you do.
34:46
They're good at what they're doing.
34:47
Everybody's good at something.
34:48
Now, some people don't find it.
34:50
And I feel terrible about that.
34:52
And I honestly, in part of my prayers,
34:54
I sometimes I throw that in there
34:55
that people will find what they're good at.
34:57
But some people, and it really sucks.
35:01
And it's not just our industry,
35:03
but some of these people that you have to jump
35:05
through 85 hoops to even get in touch with them
35:08
or they want $100 to talk to you on the phone,
35:10
or if they act like they don't have time
35:12
or don't see messages or all of that.
35:14
Dude, I don't care if I have 900 billion followers.
35:19
I will get more humble talk to more people
35:22
and you'll never ever have to pay to talk to me
35:25
or walk by me and me.
35:27
Look at you like that.
35:29
That, that type of shit.
35:30
What is it?
35:31
My gamb is best friends.
35:32
It mentioned him a while back.
35:33
He was best friends with troubleery.
35:34
I hope you, I said,
35:35
so dad ain't chubby or best friend.
35:39
And it's like,
35:40
and one of the things I loved about Chuck,
35:42
like he passed away a year and a half
35:43
or two years ago.
35:44
And it's like one of the things that was great about Chuck
35:47
is because everybody in his generation knew Chuck.
35:50
And everybody knew Chuck.
35:51
Like you could walk through an airport with Chuck
35:54
and it was annoying because,
35:55
and I'd say it's annoying from my perspective,
35:58
and he's chocked right and of whatever.
35:59
Like people would literally like just stop and talk
36:03
from where restaurants people would interrupt dinners
36:06
and he gets a topic, right?
36:07
At the end of the year,
36:07
you're there with like the president
36:08
or something that's chocked.
36:09
Like, right.
36:10
And he would stop every single time
36:15
and talk to every single person who wanted to talk to him.
36:18
And I always had such an admiration for that
36:21
because it, and his answer was that
36:22
even if he was having a terrible day
36:25
and some woman walked out and just wanted to say,
36:27
I like, he literally would stop what he was doing
36:29
to spend a vent with her.
36:30
And then you'd be like,
36:31
relate for the flight.
36:32
Yeah, he'd be like,
36:33
but that meant something to her.
36:35
That's right.
36:36
Answer it.
36:37
He said, yes, we're running late
36:38
and that was an inconvenience.
36:40
That made her day.
36:42
And you don't know at all what they're going through,
36:46
a simple smile or a simple hello,
36:48
just something you have no idea.
36:50
Like when I go for walks in the morning and everything
36:54
and all these people walk by me in the path,
36:56
you know, some people have their head down or whatever.
36:58
I'd force them to say hi to me.
37:00
Hi, dude, it's you.
37:02
I swear to you, I said, I always put my hand up at a wave.
37:05
Sometimes if I'm on the phone or wherever I put my hand up,
37:08
I smile, I say morning, whatever,
37:09
but I do, I don't care.
37:11
Like I was even in LA and walking and not advised.
37:14
So, oh, I was in a good, low area,
37:16
but people that you can tell that I walk by,
37:19
they just don't ever look at anybody,
37:20
just put their heads down.
37:21
I've made them all look at me, man.
37:23
And we're getting worse like that as I say, we are cell phones.
37:26
Go, heads down aren't just some people.
37:30
They're just lonely, man.
37:31
And nobody would ever do in the time of day
37:33
to say anything to them.
37:34
And that one word, you don't know if they were thinking
37:37
about killing themselves and you stopped them.
37:39
Cause I'd read a benzene about that.
37:41
You don't know, or you don't know if they were so far down
37:44
and that one thing pulled them out
37:46
because they just gave them a little hope in humanity.
37:48
I don't know, but even if you did it for one person,
37:51
man, it's worth it.
37:52
So, I'm gonna give you the last bit
37:55
of our conversation here
37:56
because you've talked multiple times about faith.
38:00
Obviously, you're a megaphone,
38:03
or your microphone to the world here
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is obviously you're socially, you're through YouTube,
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you're podcasting, you mention it.
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Obviously that niche that you feel is in healthcare
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and advocacy in healthcare of the fake place,
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such a huge art of your journey.
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And I love that.
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Like, it's all of it.
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It's not this, this, or this.
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It's all of it combined.
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Talk to me about how that affects your life
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and everything you do in the purpose of what you do.
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Because as I say, health is great,
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but being healthy and still have your terrible
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life isn't healthier all now.
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You can't be healthy without it.
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I don't care what anybody says.
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I don't care if it makes some people mad or I don't care.
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I have severe fear when it comes to talking about that.
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I don't care if somebody just followed me
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and they're like, they don't believe in God
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and then I'm not gonna post something about,
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you know, whatever.
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No, I'm gonna post it.
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And if you don't like it, I'm in the wrong room.
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I'm around the wrong people and I could care less.
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I don't need it and I don't want it.
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I will always go back and tell you
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when everything changed for me
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and I could reflect on it and take you down the whole path
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of it and it was the time where I just decided
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that in something penetrated by my heart
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where I said, I'm just, I'm gosh first from here on out.
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I used to, there were points and times
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where I made so much money that I remember
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Tell them, Queenie, I had tears rolling down my eyes
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and said, is this real?
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And I'll tell you what, I went and spent all this money
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and all this stuff.
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I have a beautiful home,
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cars that I've always dreamed of having,
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a beautiful wife, a beautiful family.
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And I go to bed and sometimes I look at her
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and I'd wonder, why the hell am I so miserable?
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And why do I have to keep buying something new
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every single day and it's just, it fills a gap
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for 20 minutes and then I just look at it and I'm just,
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I'm sad.
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What is it?
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What, why do I think that I had everything I ever wanted?
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I got people that recognized me everywhere I walk.
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I got all this going on and I just filled worse.
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I feel worse than damn it when I got out of prison
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and had nothing.
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Why?
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What have I missed?
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And I was on vacation and I strictly remembered
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like 230 of them where I was out.
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She was asleep and I was out sitting on the patio area
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and it was just, oh, you could hear the ocean
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and I was looking up and I just felt something
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and I don't even know what it was.
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And I've always prayed it in spiritual
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but never God first, Dylan first.
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And that's when it started and it carried over
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and then finally when I just, it penetrated me
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and I put God first and all that I do
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and I read the entire New Testament in like six months
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and I started basically what I understand now
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was training me to get ready for what I'm doing now.
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And when I realized that all of the training
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and the consolation, the desolation,
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in fact, to the consolation which means
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you're in a good state, bad state, good state.
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And you know, most people when they're in the bad states
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when they pray the most, I started to pray the most
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when I was in the good state
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because I was so appreciative and so thankful, so smart.
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And I actually struggle more when I'm in the bad state
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because I'm just like I'm consumed by it.
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Then it turns into okay, I got this good connection with God
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but now I'm lacking the trust
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because why am I so stressed?
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Why am I always like so out of whack
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and something doesn't go my way?
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So then I started to build the trust.
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So the foundation is set but it's just a foundation.
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There's so much more work to do.
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Work it on the trust, work it on the trust.
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I'm getting there, I'm getting there, it's getting better.
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You never gonna fully have it, we're human.
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But when you prioritize the trust in him,
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then you know that no matter what,
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everything's gonna fall into place somehow.
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It might not that day.
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It's not my timing, it's not in my control.
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And then I start to get into these situations
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where I'm in situations like last week.
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Well, you're going on stage right now.
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No, no, not that.
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I have no fear, no worry because I get the words I need.
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You know, in the Bible,
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it's several times when people
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are in a pressure situation, don't worry.
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Fear not because you're going to have what you need.
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And sometimes I walk when I go,
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I don't know how the hell I even need that.
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I know the word sandal.
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And I'll look back and go, man, did I read that?
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And I'll think, and then I come to it
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to find out now and just like, I laugh,
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I see a little prayer, I'm like, you're good.
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You're good at what you do.
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You know, I tell them something of the day
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and they're like, you know,
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because you know, you get to so many struggles in life.
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And my band, the waters have parted so many times.
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My bike, the reasons I never understood
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but my feet were always wet.
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No.
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When you stop asking questions
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and just receive the answers
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and don't worry about it and just know where it came from.
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Dude, that's when you're on to something.
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When you stop worrying and stop fearing
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and just start doing and just go with it
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and you've spread it to everybody else.
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You have no fear.
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You know where you came from.
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You know why you have it.
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There's so much freedom in not worrying
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about anything anybody says or anything else.
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I'm gonna bake a connection
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because God also knows that in that space
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your autonomic nervous system regulates.
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And in that position of faith,
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your parasympathetic nervous system kicks in
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and you're actually going to physically
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and physiologically heal
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because you're able to be in that position.
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Like stress keeps us someplace else
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and it's like, it absolutely ruins everything.
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I, my last book or last year,
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I've released a book called Radical Generace
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and it literally was a walk through
43:30
a serotonin responses and everything else
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that it just relates to joy and generosity
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and love affection, right?
43:38
But this is an hoxytocin release
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that our bodies receive when we're actually
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in this space and it's a cycle.
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Yeah, it's like once you get on that very go-round
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or there's no shutting it down.
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It's like, you know, joy leads to gratitude,
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gratitude leads to giving, giving the ifs of love
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that you're in this cycle with that corn.
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Let's say, and it's physiologically proven.
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I carry, so on my notes on my phone,
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I have all of the virtues listed just in case I forget.
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And in case I want to share
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and I go through them and won these to the next,
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to the next, to the next and they correlate
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and when you obtain these virtues
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and if you actually pray for the things
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that you're supposed to pray for
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and you are lying these within yourself,
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that's you'll notice you're at your very best.
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But without that alignment, then we can't,
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and this is how we're going to tie this to health
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without that alignment, you're off.
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Every single one has a certain purpose
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and a fixture into what we are to become.
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And let's look at this scientifically.
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I, my least favorite subject, my entire life
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that I despised that I hated, say science was science.
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I had to go to summer school to take biology in college
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because I absolutely hated it.
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And my whole life revolves around science now
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everything I read and want to study
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and learn about it scientifically.
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But I also had this thing in my head
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that science went against God.
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And then, yeah, can science is, that's exactly right.
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And let me tell you something.
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When I realized the intricate makeup of our body
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and what he did to make it the way that he did,
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now, didn't do a thing about this.
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You read in the Bible and most people just take it
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on the surface and don't understand
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conceptually what it means.
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If he had to do everything in seven days
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and there's 24 hours in a day.
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And as great as God is and he even had to rest,
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what does that tell you in the amount of work
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and thought that went into every single being
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or thing that we are?
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And then you look at our makeup, trillions of cells,
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trillions of cells, just in this body.
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That's that we're not talking about anything else.
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Functionality of organs, how are we aligned?
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This and that psychologically and physiologically, right?
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And you think about that in the beauty
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and what he did and what he made.
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He, this like you say, he is science.
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Science was his creation.
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Science is the study of trying to figure out what God did.
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That's exactly right.
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Wow, that's all it is.
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Wow, and we get that and we get our heads wrap around that.
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We'll understand it.
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I always say that in this space,
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there's the super spiritual people
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and there's the super scientific people
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and they all realized the same.
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Like, no, just again, it's the doctor looking
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with the knife in the back, right?
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You're just looking at it from a different perspective.
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I assure you, there's more harmony
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than either one of you want to realize.
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And Dylan, I gotta thank you, like,
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people like you who are voicing through health and science
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and all of these things through your podcast,
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through your social media are doing such a service
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to the community and the country and people follow you.
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But I always say you're doing kingdom service
46:42
and by that people, people like you
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who have such a great audience,
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my buddy Austin, like, yeah, I love the guy.
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And it's like, he's faith forward
46:52
and everything he does, Josh Axe has gotten
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so much more faith forward and everything he's doing.
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And like, there's a gap that's existed
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in this natural health space that's been far too boo.
47:05
It's been far too sciencey.
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It's been far too anti-faith focus.
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And I just love to see that God is raising up men
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and women who are speaking truths through faith
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and connecting it to all of these things.
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Because they're not, these are not in opposition.
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And in matter of fact, there's a beautiful harmony
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between my body and soul.
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And we clinically want to treat the body
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apart from the others.
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And psychologically, we want to treat behavior
47:34
without trying to treat spiritual issues
47:36
or with a man spiritually.
47:37
We're trying to bring people to God
47:38
and I serve on the board of a recovery center.
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And my body spirit is the entire conversation
47:45
because it's like, you take an addict
47:47
and it's like, the fact that they're not doing drugs,
47:49
things are better now.
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And it's like, no, they're not better now
47:51
because all you're doing is you go to a recovery center
47:54
and it's mountain-do cigarettes and guerrilla.
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It's all right, that's so bad.
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And I were just poisoning your physiology
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with something else and you know I'm not lying.
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And it's like, so yeah, okay, it's not heroin, got it?
48:05
Great, but it's something else, right?
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And the issue is because we've never dealt
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at the spiritual side where we can't deal
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with the spiritual side unless we get
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through the emotional walls that are blocking you up.
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And I can't get into the psychology
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if I can't get your physiology to even accept it.
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Like, you're still physically broken.
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I can't get into a psychological break through or vik you
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until your cells are willing to accept it too.
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And because they're each dropping.
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That's right.
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Your body is even dropping.
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Everything that's going on in your mind and your spirit.
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I think that connection, I'd appreciate it
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but feel like you who speak that truth in integrated fashion
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because we are integrated about all things.
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That's right.
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So thank you so much.
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I know we're wrapping up here,
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but dude, it is a bit such a pleasure
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talking to you on here.
48:51
I think it's so fun.
48:53
I don't think I need to tell you we're fine.
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Please, you know it.
48:56
I think everybody knows that answer already.
48:58
Or at least one and a half million if you do.
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But I'm going to tell you,
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go follow Dylan's podcast.
49:03
Go follow his Instagram feed.
49:05
There's so much good information
49:06
that you share on a regular basis.
49:08
And what I appreciate that I personally
49:11
is the authenticity by which you share.
49:14
I think that comes through
49:15
an every thing you do.
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You're not a promoter.
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You're an influencer.
49:21
Probably reluctantly in many ways.
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Persuade, I'll be in poor.
49:25
Persuade, dangerous, maybe dude.
49:28
But he's definitely out there speaking truth
49:30
in all of these aspects of the integration
49:32
of mind, body and soul.
49:33
And above that, also tells me,
49:37
I'd been on timeline for years,
49:38
but I would say I also believe anything
49:40
that Dylan promotes is worth checking out
49:43
to do because I know we balladates that kind of stuff.
49:46
And in the space,
49:47
there's a lot of if they pay me,
49:48
I'll talk about it kind of,
49:49
kind of deals that go on.
49:51
Not you.
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Now, and that's that's so genuine.
49:53
No, look at everything has to be.
49:56
First of all, set to me research used,
49:59
but I need a lot of other aspects.
50:02
Like I need to know the people behind it,
50:04
what their motives are.
50:06
I need to see real world results,
50:08
not just a bunch of doctor studies.
50:09
There's a lot of things that I have to do
50:12
for my own comfort level.
50:14
Don't keep me up to the energy of the 10th.
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Oh, man, there's a lot of things
50:20
for me that a process.
50:23
And it's pretty deep, man.
50:24
It's pretty deep because I don't want my name associated
50:26
with anything that is of 80 sort of shade, you know?
50:32
So I encourage you.
50:33
Go follow Dylan if you don't already.
50:35
Just good stuff, genuine stuff.
50:37
And again, I think we need arbiters of truth
50:40
in all areas.
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So check out below.
50:43
We'll have everything in the show notes below
50:44
on how to get all the Dylan out of find him.
50:46
Comment in all this post
50:47
because he just said the replies to them all.
50:49
So like, we'll make sure that he does that.
50:51
Just no hate, that's the rule.
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We appreciate you and we'll see you next time
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out of age you find.