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- 0:00If it is the worldwide sports radio, network radio.
- 0:04Network believe in that they're going to give him a significant.
- 0:07They're going to have. A ton of money to spend.
- 0:09Why not putting in one of the top three offensive players in
- 0:12the league? We're going to be.
- 0:21Looking at Aaron. George and saying that he can't.
- 0:24Win the big game, Michael Jordan.
- 0:25Said I played 82 games. You don't see the fun doing
- 0:29that? A game where you got to go.
- 0:31Before I told you, Giant fans. Saquon Barkley at.
- 0:36This point. Do it.
- 1:35You're listening to Jabba and the mouth.
- 1:37Mouth. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and
- 1:43girls, I'm back from Montreal, Canada.
- 1:48Yes, my name is Errol Marx and I am here at the Worldwide Sports
- 1:54Radio Network studios, finally back here in Long Island, New
- 1:59York and you know our number, 631-672-3108.
- 2:05You know who we are. We're Jabba and the Mouth.
- 2:09I just gave my name, my Co host Jabba Chamberlain, Mr.
- 2:13Flamethrower and Speedy Petey, no Aaron Fish Fishman.
- 2:18Tonight our executive producer is hanging out in LA for his
- 2:22birthday. He is number 4040 years of the
- 2:26age and he is crying about it. I don't know why.
- 2:29I'm 43 there's nothing to cry about.
- 2:32A job I just turned 40, there's nothing to cry.
- 2:35Ladies and gentlemen, age is just a number on the board.
- 2:38Tommy Poops, remember you go to our website at
- 2:42www.worldwidesportsradio.com. Check out all our shows
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- 2:55all our shows is go to our website at
- 2:57www.worldwidesportsradio.com And I I stopped for a second because
- 3:04there is a lot to get into tonight.
- 3:07A lot of craziness in sports. Some of them I, I just wonder if
- 3:12these organizations actually know what they're doing and I, I
- 3:17will mention them as we move forward in the topics tonight.
- 3:20But nevertheless, I had an opportunity to go to Montreal,
- 3:24Canada and I, I drove about 7 1/2 hours to get there and 7 1/2
- 3:30hours to get home. It was craziness.
- 3:33And I will say this do not rent a Subaru four Wheeler because as
- 3:39much as it's so nice inside on the I guess the seats are just
- 3:43so damn bad. I hurt my ass.
- 3:46I had sciatica. It was horrible the whole drive
- 3:49home I was trying to like lean towards one like 1 cheek.
- 3:54And what I mean by cheek is my right cheek because my left
- 3:57cheek was absolutely in pain. I couldn't put pressure on it
- 4:00because it was shooting down my leg.
- 4:02Subaru cars are not the way to go Ladies and gentlemen, stay
- 4:06away from the Subaru cars. But I, I got a chance to go out
- 4:11there. I want to give a shout out to
- 4:12Brittany. She, you know, pretty much took
- 4:15care of the whole practically adventure over there to Montreal
- 4:18and we rented a car. It was fun.
- 4:21I guess at some points it was fun, but we got a chance to stay
- 4:24at the, I guess the Bonaventure. It it was a nice hotel.
- 4:28It was, it was really cool to go over there because I they have a
- 4:31heated pool. It was like foaming it, it it
- 4:35wasn't foaming. It was heated.
- 4:36It was like that. It was so cold outside.
- 4:39It was like 9° when we got there that the heat was just rising.
- 4:43It looked like. We were like the whole, the pool
- 4:46was a heating frenzy and they had a hot tub and it was, it was
- 4:52fun. It was definitely interesting.
- 4:54The only place you can go is the 10th floor, so you're like 10
- 4:57floors above everything in the city.
- 5:00It was, it was nice. It was a really nice hotel.
- 5:02We got a chance to sightsee on the final day, but it was
- 5:06snowing. It was garbage and and I got a
- 5:09can't. I got a chance to go to the
- 5:10underground mall. We went there multiple times
- 5:13because speed. It's speedy.
- 5:15Brittany loves the shop. She loves to go and buy those
- 5:18Canadian socks in those Canadian different, you know, peril.
- 5:23So she enjoyed it. I did buy a new pair of
- 5:26sneakers, ladies and gentlemen, as I always do.
- 5:27I bought a new pair of Clouds, I got a couple of new headbands
- 5:31and then off I went. But it was a cool four days.
- 5:35Jabba reached out to me, which I appreciate your job.
- 5:38Everybody reached out to me. Nithin couldn't stop bothering
- 5:41me. But I love Nithin.
- 5:44And by the way, Nithin is in the back end.
- 5:47Shout out to the old NIT, our PR manager, NNIL.
- 5:52Yes, he's the NIL vice president of his company.
- 5:55So he's doing some big things. We're working on some big
- 5:59stories and all that other stuff.
- 6:01Jabba, how are you, my friend? Everything's good, you know, we,
- 6:05we're, we're cold again. So the bipolar is, is done for a
- 6:09little bit and I'll just be cold.
- 6:12Just had to put in a huge Walmart order for my son.
- 6:17And other than that, man, it's just been kind of just getting
- 6:20back in that routine and just it's kind of nice to have that
- 6:24again after the holidays and getting settled.
- 6:27And I'll be in New York here come next week, so we'll figure
- 6:34that out. Yes, we will.
- 6:35Got to plan all that, but yeah, just nice to kind of get back in
- 6:39a schedule and get on a routine. And yeah, it's just getting
- 6:45excited with, with everything that's going on right now.
- 6:48It's it's kind of been all crazy, like just just trying to
- 6:52digest all of what is going on in sports right now from so many
- 6:56different angles. It's my brain is hurting, but
- 7:02it's a great time of the year. So I'm excited to talk about it
- 7:04all and share and see what see what you guys think about.
- 7:07I will say this, my brain has been hurting since Friday
- 7:11because everything that has happened when I was away
- 7:14happened. I mean, everything.
- 7:16And it seems like when it rains, it pours.
- 7:19And here in New York, boy, oh boy does it pour.
- 7:22And, and I think Giant fans are happy.
- 7:24And we will get into that. As John Harble was announced
- 7:27today as the new head coach of the New York Giants.
- 7:29I'm going to give you my take, ladies and gentlemen, why I do
- 7:32not believe John Harbaugh was the right choice.
- 7:35Just my opinion on the Jackson dart development, but that's a
- 7:40whole nother story. We will get into that in a very
- 7:42few, I guess a few segments. We'll get into the whole higher
- 7:47frenzy and the craziness that's gone on over the last couple of
- 7:50days. But yeah, a little bit later in
- 7:52the show at 9:30, we'll be talking to Vikings linebacker,
- 7:55Well, former linebacker and current Vikings radio show
- 7:58broadcaster and radio show host. Ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen,
- 8:01Pete Persik will be joining us. He loves us.
- 8:04We love him. And I'm sure he'll have some
- 8:06Jets jokes. So of course, a lot of Jets
- 8:08jokes. I mean, why not?
- 8:09I mean, Robert Soller is now a Titan.
- 8:11We will get into that a little bit later.
- 8:13Oh, man, I put we're going to be putting out a story must read.
- 8:17I'm telling you, Speedy, read it twice because you couldn't stop
- 8:20playing. So a lot to get into.
- 8:22And like Choppa said, we're going to get into it right now.
- 8:25The Broncos beat the Bills 33 to 30 in overtime to advance to
- 8:30their first AFC championship game since 2015.
- 8:34The Broncos defense forced 5 turnovers in this game,
- 8:38including a controversial interception in overtime on a
- 8:42play that looked like it was a catch by Cooks.
- 8:46The Seahawks blew out the 49ers 41 to 6 to advance to their
- 8:50first NFC Championship Game since 2014.
- 8:54Rashid Shahid had a kick off return touchdown on the first
- 8:58play of the game and the Seahawks ran away with it after
- 9:02that. The Patriots beat the Texans 28
- 9:05to 16 in a sloppy turnover, filed game or filled game.
- 9:09I I guess I'm going to file it. CJ Stroud had four interceptions
- 9:13and the Texans offensive line allowed five sacks in this game.
- 9:16The Rams won in overtime 20 to 17 to beat the Bears, the only
- 9:21Rd. team to win in the NFL Divisional Round.
- 9:25Caleb Williams had an unbelievable throw to Cole
- 9:28Commit to tie the game with 18 seconds left in regulations.
- 9:34But to tie the game in 18 seconds left a little damper
- 9:40because when it went to overtime, yes ladies and
- 9:44gentlemen, he threw an interception in overtime which
- 9:47led to a Rams game-winning field goal kick.
- 9:53So let's get into the Broncos game and Sean McDermott is no
- 9:58longer the head coach of the Buffalo Bills.
- 10:01And I don't know if we're going to blame Sean McDermott for this
- 10:04loss. He did speak up after the game.
- 10:06He said his piece. He he stuck up for his team.
- 10:09He stuck up for his organization.
- 10:11That shows a lot about who Sean McDermott is.
- 10:14He said a lot of graceful things about Josh Allen.
- 10:18Josh Allen went up there after the game, cried.
- 10:20It showed he put his heart out there.
- 10:22We love that about Josh Allen. He's one of very few guys that
- 10:25will go out there and cry in front of the media and give his
- 10:28personality and show his personality to the world.
- 10:32That's something special about this kid and why I think Josh
- 10:35Allen is an elite and one of the elite quarterbacks in this
- 10:38league and has been one of the elite quarterbacks in this
- 10:40league for over 10 years. But here's the facts and this is
- 10:45the facts. This game went back and forth.
- 10:48Was it sloppy? There was some sloppiness in the
- 10:51game. There's no question when you
- 10:53have 5 fourths turnovers, there's definitely a sloppy.
- 10:56It was definitely a sloppy game and Josh Allen didn't have one
- 10:59of his unbelievable games. But Josh put his team on his
- 11:02shoulders. He made every single play he
- 11:05needed to to get this game into overtime, and he came up short.
- 11:10And the Bills come up short every single time, over and over
- 11:14and over again. Against Kansas City, over the
- 11:16years, against Baltimore, against the Bengals.
- 11:19It seems like Josh Allen can never get over the hump.
- 11:22And this year, he had his chance.
- 11:24Bonex is a rookie quarterback. He's not a rookie.
- 11:27He's been in a league for a couple of years.
- 11:29But to me, this guy is a rookie. He doesn't know what to do in
- 11:33the playoffs. And, and again, going into this
- 11:35game, I didn't expect Bonex to have a great game, But he showed
- 11:39up in certain parts of the game. He made certain throws that was
- 11:43fun to watch. And I could say this about
- 11:45Bonex, if he was still in the playoffs, if he didn't break his
- 11:49ankle as he did and it was announced by Sean Payton at the
- 11:52end of the game, maybe the Broncos go to a Super Bowl and
- 11:55maybe Bo Nicks and the Broncos win a Super Bowl.
- 11:59But I don't know if they're going to.
- 12:00Because to me, when you look at this game, there's a lot of
- 12:04questions about this Broncos team.
- 12:06First, this. This is an elite defense.
- 12:09This is one of the best defenses in the league.
- 12:11One of the best secondaries in the league.
- 12:13Yes, they forced 5 turnovers, but made a lot of mistakes in
- 12:16this game against a Buffalo Bills team that didn't have a
- 12:19number one wide receiver. Not one number one wide
- 12:23receiver. If you think Shakur is one of
- 12:28those guys, you're out of your damn mind.
- 12:31They don't have a #1 Coleman played at certain parts of this
- 12:33game. They have not had.
- 12:35They lost Gabe Davis. They have not had a number one
- 12:38wide receiver since somebody that's playing for the Patriots
- 12:41and you know, I'm speaking about.
- 12:43All your favorites. Stefan Diggs, they haven't had
- 12:46one of those guys. And these are the facts here.
- 12:50The Broncos to me are not an elite offense.
- 12:54They're not. They don't have I they have a
- 12:56great wide receiver. They don't have any elite wide
- 12:59receiver, they don't have elite offensive style of players.
- 13:03Now, obviously we'll get into the Patriots and we will get
- 13:06into the Broncos as we move into Thursday.
- 13:09But the fact here is I worry about this particular team in
- 13:14the Broncos because if they could stop Harvey, if teams can
- 13:18stop Harvey, what do they have offensively?
- 13:22They're they've been known to run the ball.
- 13:24You know, Sean Payton is that old time type of football.
- 13:27He likes to run the ball first throw second.
- 13:30This is not Drew Brees. Bo Nicks is not Drew Brees over
- 13:33the years. Now they got a guy named Stidham
- 13:36who's going to be the quarterback in in the AFC title
- 13:41game. There's a lot of questions to
- 13:43where the Broncos are going to go and move on.
- 13:45What I do know about this particular game is Josh Allen
- 13:48was the best quarterback still in the playoffs besides Matthew
- 13:53Stafford. As far as I'm concerned.
- 13:55When you look at CJ Strout, a young guy, I would say rookie in
- 13:59the playoffs, a guy that doesn't have a lot of experience.
- 14:01Bonics don't have a lot of experience in the playoffs.
- 14:04Caleb Williams don't have a lot of experience in the playoffs.
- 14:06Drake May doesn't have a lot of experience in the playoffs and
- 14:09you you look at all these guys and how about Sam Donald doesn't
- 14:13have a lot of experience in this the playoffs.
- 14:15Brock Birdie has experience and just absolutely blew it and
- 14:19we'll get into it in in just a few moments.
- 14:22The fact here is when I look at the Broncos, it was fun to
- 14:26watch. The Broncos got lucky.
- 14:28It was a missed call by the referees.
- 14:31I've always said that the game is rigged.
- 14:33I believe the NFL is trying to give the Patriots the easiest
- 14:37way, the easiest path to the Super Bowl.
- 14:40I'll. I don't care what anybody says.
- 14:42I've always believed A controversy.
- 14:45Yeah, I think it's controversy. You want to say I'm
- 14:48controversial? I'm as controversial as they
- 14:51get. The fact here is the fact that
- 14:55you hear that Bonex goes down and he's out for the playoffs.
- 14:58And I'm not saying the league wanted or knows that Bonex was
- 15:01going to go down. I'm not saying that.
- 15:03But this, this game should have been over.
- 15:06Brady Cooks caught that ball. He was down.
- 15:08His knee hit the ground. It was ripped out of his hands,
- 15:13ripped out of his hands when he was down, but nevertheless the
- 15:17referees missed it and didn't want to call a timeout, didn't
- 15:20want to review it, didn't want to do anything.
- 15:21Sean McDermott was absolutely right.
- 15:23But guess what? There's no crying in football.
- 15:26As we all know in sports. We've heard it actually in
- 15:31baseball, we we all know when somebody had said in a league of
- 15:34their own and Tom Hanks said it, there's no crying in baseball.
- 15:38This is a manly sport. There's no crying in football,
- 15:42except if you're Josh Allen, and I got to give him credit for
- 15:45that. Showed his, showed his
- 15:47personality, showed who he is as a person.
- 15:49I I'm just telling you right now, going into this game,
- 15:52looking at this game and look at the true hope.
- 15:55If you're a Broncos fan, I know Joppa, your son is a Broncos fan
- 15:59and we're going to go from game to game and I'm going to ask you
- 16:01all your opinions. But the fact here is the Broncos
- 16:05to me is not made to win a Super Bowl without Bonex.
- 16:10And I don't even know if with Bonex they would go to the Super
- 16:14Bowl knowing that the Patriots are as bad as they they have
- 16:19been with Drake May in the play offs and Drake May has not
- 16:22looked good in the play offs. I don't care what anybody says,
- 16:24he has not looked good. I don't want to hear what the
- 16:26announcers say. I don't want to hear what the
- 16:27analysts say. He has not looked good when he
- 16:30goes against great talent. He's had problems against great
- 16:34talent. I don't know if I trust this
- 16:37team as a whole when it comes down to winning the big game
- 16:41Speedy. Yeah, I've always been under the
- 16:43belief that the NFC had the top four teams probably going into
- 16:46the playoffs. If obviously if Michael Parson
- 16:48was healthy for the Packers, I thought that was the angle it
- 16:50was on. Obviously, now that he's not, it
- 16:52was probably the Bills were my AFC pick as well in the Super
- 16:55Bowl. I thought it made a lot of
- 16:56sense. They had the number one pass
- 16:57defense in the league and Denver I didn't think could run the
- 17:00ball enough consistently in this game.
- 17:02But the Broncos and the Bills, and This is why I probably will
- 17:05get to McDermott getting fired later.
- 17:07But I think the biggest reason why McDermott eventually they
- 17:09had to wear out on him. The Bills defense has been
- 17:11historically bad in the playoffs.
- 17:13And I think a lot of that had to do with facing top offense,
- 17:17obviously. But still you've seen good
- 17:19defenses still be able to win. And the Broncos, you're right,
- 17:22they're not a lethal passing attack.
- 17:24They shut down Courtland Sutton. He had two catches in the whole
- 17:26game. And they let Marvin Mims do a
- 17:28bunch of great things. They let the these tight ends
- 17:31get it going in the later in the game.
- 17:33And I think for that reason, you can't blame Josh Allen.
- 17:37But at the same time, Josh Allen did have those turnovers at
- 17:40lateral play made absolutely no sense.
- 17:42Like I don't know where he was seeing something there.
- 17:44I know we've seen teams a lot more do these hook and ladder
- 17:46type plays. But again, it's one of those
- 17:49things that you have to a team blamed if they think.
- 17:53And that's why I don't think the Broncos are great either.
- 17:55The NFC has the best teams left. We'll get to the other games in
- 17:57a bit, but they're the quality of the Seahawks and the Rams are
- 18:00that much more significant than the quality of the Broncos.
- 18:02The Bills are the only shot to do it.
- 18:03And then again, they throw it away.
- 18:04They just keep beating themselves in any way.
- 18:06Now, again, you mentioned the referee you call.
- 18:08Was it a catch? Was it not?
- 18:09I don't think you could do that justification like you did last
- 18:12year with the Chiefs. Last year, it was obviously a
- 18:14first down. Like they should have gotten
- 18:15that first down call on the QB sneak.
- 18:17The pass interference I thought was the right call, the non pass
- 18:20interference I thought was the right call on the Broncos.
- 18:22And I just don't know if there was enough to overturn it on a
- 18:24catch. What I have called it a catch
- 18:26probably, but I don't know if there was enough to overturn it.
- 18:28And that's why I can't blame them here for this instance to
- 18:31say that kind of thing. Was there conspiracy with the
- 18:34Patriots and the Broncos wanting them in the AFC championship
- 18:37game Again, who knows, but who knows.
- 18:39Would it be funny if Jared Siddam gets his revenge on the
- 18:41on the on the Patriots after Jeff who loved Jarrett, said him
- 18:44at the time when he got drafted in 2019 was rave?
- 18:47Oh, the Patriots got their QB of the future.
- 18:49Wouldn't have been funny to see them knocked out.
- 18:50But yeah, it's tough to tell with this Broncos team if they
- 18:52could actually do it. Yeah, I was wondering too.
- 18:56Like I wanted to get your guys's perspective of this.
- 18:58Like you, you've seen a lot more.
- 19:02I guess the best word to use is trickery.
- 19:04Like are the like, is that the right time or like sweetie, like
- 19:07you said, like what did he see like to do those things?
- 19:10Like do you think this is the right time to to use those type
- 19:14of plays and bring it out of the playbook?
- 19:16I just I don't think this. I don't even think that was a
- 19:18design play. I just think it was just Josh
- 19:20Allen thinking he had a lateral and it just backfired on and
- 19:23then badly at the wrong spot in the game.
- 19:25It's one thing if you're trying in the third quarter or
- 19:27something, you're at the end of the half and you're giving him a
- 19:29gift field goal essentially. Yeah, I, it's, I think there
- 19:34was, there was a tale of a lot of stuff that was going on.
- 19:38And I think defensively, offensively there, there were a
- 19:42couple, I guess either, I don't know if it was miscommunication
- 19:47from from one side or the other, but it just it felt like
- 19:51something was a little off on certain guys.
- 19:54And I don't know if the moment got too big or they couldn't
- 19:56slow the game down or they just weren't able to read what was
- 20:01going on as far as, you know, plays and check offs and all the
- 20:05other stuff. And it was, it was interesting
- 20:08because like. When you guys say like, did they
- 20:11want them in in this situation and is it rigged?
- 20:16I hate to admit when Errol's right or he's almost right, but
- 20:21I think he's on to something where it, I wouldn't say it's
- 20:26scripted, but it's put into place.
- 20:31And I know everybody's going to attack me when I come out with
- 20:34these these crazy theories. And it is a theory.
- 20:37But guess what? I've been saying it for 10 years
- 20:39and now you have ex NFL players going out on podcast and saying
- 20:43the same thing that I'm saying. And I've been saying it.
- 20:45I've been attacked by fans all over the world.
- 20:47Speedy How many people have attacked?
- 20:49Me. Oh believe me, my first year I
- 20:50was with the network. Remember your whole Tom Brady's
- 20:53cast is fake and Jeff ripped you.
- 20:56For everybody ripped me for it. Everybody ripped me for all
- 20:59these particular theories that I have, but guess what?
- 21:04As much as their theories, their theories that have somewhat
- 21:07grown over the years and now everybody is saying it.
- 21:11Now you have Stephen A Smith bringing it up.
- 21:12Hey, maybe this is true. Maybe it is rigged or there's
- 21:15other guys, other analysts. Pat McAfee has said it on his
- 21:18show quite a few times that he thinks that there's some things
- 21:21about the NFL that's kind of become more scripted, maybe
- 21:24because of betting, sports betting, I don't know.
- 21:27But here's my theory to the situation.
- 21:30When you think about the way the referees make calls in certain
- 21:34football games, you wonder if there is somebody speaking to
- 21:37them upstairs telling them something during the game.
- 21:41Or if something happens during the game on maybe calling it not
- 21:47a catch or hits the ground or something of that magnitude.
- 21:50And I, and I believe in this particular moment, I, I think
- 21:55Sean McDermott was absolutely right.
- 21:57This was a. Do you think in the headset?
- 21:59Because they obviously never let us hear the headset?
- 22:01Yes. You think there's things being
- 22:03said 100%, That's why we don't get to hear that. 100% I, I
- 22:07think the NFL, obviously with the referees, you're not going
- 22:10to hear what the referees are saying.
- 22:11And you know, I don't know if anybody knows.
- 22:13Whenever there's a penalty called or some kind of call,
- 22:16usually the referees go and talk to the coaches right after that
- 22:19play. What are the referees try to do?
- 22:20They tried to speed up the play, right?
- 22:22They tried to move the play along as quick as they can so
- 22:26there was no stoppage of play and they can move on to the
- 22:28game. So they don't call a time out or
- 22:31something is not called. And, and to me, Sean McDermott
- 22:35was absolutely right. I think he had he had a reason
- 22:38to argue about that. I think he's upset about it.
- 22:40He lost his job possibly because of that one play.
- 22:43Think about it, if Buffalo moves on, I think the only way
- 22:47McDermott wins his or keeps his job is if they make it to the
- 22:51Super Bowl. That's the only way he keeps his
- 22:53job. I just think that this is their
- 22:55best chance. When you don't have Pat Patrick
- 22:57Mahomes in the playoffs or Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson dealing
- 23:01with three of those guys that are tremendous talented
- 23:03quarterbacks who you can argue those are the four, the four
- 23:06most talented quarterbacks in the league and the elite
- 23:09quarterbacks of the elite besides Matthew Stafford.
- 23:12You, you would say that these guys are the faces of the NFL
- 23:15and they're not in the playoffs for the first time in their
- 23:17careers all together. It tells you this is your
- 23:20easiest ride to the finals. This is your easiest ride to
- 23:23give your Super Bowl. And they failed.
- 23:26They failed against to me, I know it was in Denver, a team
- 23:30that they're better than I, I don't care what anybody says.
- 23:32And, and maybe the records don't show that because Denver had the
- 23:35best record in the EFC. Denver was very lucky on a lot
- 23:38of these games all season long. Everything fell their way and
- 23:42this game did not fall their way.
- 23:44As a matter of fact, they can. To me, Buffalo can run the ball
- 23:47and they did pretty well stopping the run 2 in this game.
- 23:50They did very well to me. I thought this was going to be
- 23:55just a complete dominant of running and and potential
- 23:58running against the the Buffalo Bills because the Buffalo Bills
- 24:02have been so bad at stopping the run this year.
- 24:04But guess what? It wasn't.
- 24:05It was very close. It was back and forth and again,
- 24:09Josh Allen just couldn't do enough to win that game.
- 24:13Speaking of not doing enough the 49ers, what an embarrassment.
- 24:19I will say this and I'll say this because our friend Owen is
- 24:24probably listening right now. Owen reached out to me after the
- 24:2849ers moved on to play Seattle. He says, are you going to ever
- 24:32give Kyle Shanahan his props? And I said, no, I'm not.
- 24:36And he says why not? He's look what he's doing with
- 24:38all these injuries, OK? I said we'll wait and see what
- 24:42he does in Seattle and what did he do in Seattle?
- 24:45It looked like Kyle Shanahan didn't have the troops moving
- 24:48because Seattle was dancing around and prancing around after
- 24:52winning, after winning the the conference, winning the NFC.
- 24:57They were dancing and it was on their board.
- 24:59Everybody was like Christian McCaffrey was all about Kyle
- 25:01Shanahan and Ed McCaffrey and Michael Shanahan.
- 25:05They were talking about the connection and how great it is
- 25:08and what did what happened in this game.
- 25:10Well, let's look at the score. Let's look at the score and the
- 25:13score will tell you everything. Let's look at it.
- 25:16It was 41 to 6. Now, when you look at a score
- 25:22like this, you would think, I don't know, Browns, Arizona, New
- 25:28York Jets, I mean, you name it. That's that's the kind of score
- 25:32you would expect from teams like this, not the San Francisco
- 25:3649ers. And I don't want to hear about
- 25:37George Kittle or any of these Nick Bosar or any of these guys
- 25:44order I I don't want to hear. I don't want to hear about any
- 25:48of these guys being out. You play who's ever in front of
- 25:51you and you and your team, Owen, Kyle, Shanahan and yes, Bambi
- 25:58Sala, who is now the head coach of the Titans and I'll get into
- 26:01that a little bit later. He didn't show up.
- 26:03Sala did not show up to this game or he didn't have his
- 26:06troops show up to this game because they were nowhere to be
- 26:08found. And Brock Purdy, who's looked
- 26:11good all season when he's come back, has in this game.
- 26:15I don't even think he believed that he was playing in the game.
- 26:17I think he was playing in an arcade.
- 26:20Think about it. 15 for 27140 yards, one interception, no
- 26:25thrown touchdowns, none. Brock Purdy.
- 26:28That's unheard of since he's come back.
- 26:31Brock Purdy has been the most efficient quarterback in the NFL
- 26:35since he's been back. You think about it.
- 26:37I don't want to hear you still have Christian McCaffrey.
- 26:40Christian McCaffrey rush for 35 yards, 35, and he caught for 39.
- 26:46Tell me the last time that on all-purpose yards that Christian
- 26:50McCaffrey didn't have over 100 yards.
- 26:52I can't even remember. And that goes for Mike McDonald.
- 26:56And you know what I'm talking about speedy Mr. McDonald, who
- 27:01has been the best coach in the NFL all season long, who I
- 27:04believe is coach of the year. He has been sensational.
- 27:08He deserves a little bit more credit than anybody gives him
- 27:11because guess what? Since he's left the Baltimore
- 27:15Ravens, where is Baltimore's defense been ranked?
- 27:18Horrible. He's left and Sanford and and
- 27:21you think what Seattle's done since he's gone there, I don't
- 27:24know. He takes Sam Donald now.
- 27:26Sam Donald, do you have an out like outspoken game that he
- 27:31spoke volumes of what he is in the playoffs.
- 27:33He was 12 for 17124 yards. That is not great, but he didn't
- 27:39need to be great because guess what?
- 27:40He had Kenneth friggin Walker, who had 19 rushing yards, 116
- 27:48yards and three touchdowns, absolutely exploding off the
- 27:51paper, who has been a beast since he's been drafted and I
- 27:55remember when he was drafted in the second round.
- 27:58They have had a tandem of players all season long show up.
- 28:03We all, hey everybody keeps making fun of Cooper Cup. 5
- 28:05receptions for 60 yards is pretty damn good.
- 28:09How about Jackson Smith Najigba, who didn't have one of his best
- 28:13games? He didn't need to three for 19.
- 28:17That's what he had. He had a touchdown. 3 receptions
- 28:20for 19 yards. When was the last time you know
- 28:22Jackson Najigba had only 19 yards in the game?
- 28:27Here's what I'm going to say. What happened in this game, and
- 28:30it's pretty simple, The 49ers and Kyle Shanahan had his head
- 28:33up his ass. That's what happened.
- 28:35And, and, and Robert AKA Bambi Sala was probably thinking he
- 28:39was in a Disney movie because he was definitely not playing in
- 28:42this game. Because if he was, he would
- 28:44actually knew how to call the right place.
- 28:47Because to me it was run, run and more run.
- 28:51And they couldn't stop the run, which I got news for you.
- 28:54I I don't know how that's going to work in Titanville because to
- 28:58me this was an embarrassment, an absolute embarrassment.
- 29:03And to me, it's a firing offense.
- 29:05Kyle Shanahan losing 41 to 6 as a National Football game,
- 29:12divisional game against the Seattle Seahawks team.
- 29:15Yes, they were home. Yes, they're the best team in
- 29:17the NFC. They had many chances.
- 29:19They played them twice this year and we're in both those games
- 29:24and then go into a game in the playoffs and lay up a lousy
- 29:27goose egg. To me, it is a firing offense.
- 29:31So yes, Owen, I'm not going to compliment, compliment Kyle
- 29:34Shanahan because here's the facts.
- 29:36Kyle Shanahan, as we all know, can't coach the big game, can't
- 29:40call the big plays, and the guy is a failure to launch.
- 29:44Remember that I've been naming movies.
- 29:46Remember that speedy failure to launch Matthew McConaughey
- 29:50because he wasn't launching anything but a stick up his ass?
- 29:53Yeah. And again, that game looked like
- 29:55it was being coached by Robert Salo when he was a head coach.
- 29:57Like, that's how bad it is. It was for the 49ers.
- 29:59I always thought they were kind of fraudulent anyway.
- 30:01Like they did well with surviving the injuries
- 30:04throughout the regular season, fine.
- 30:05But again, the NFC West, there's a reason there's three teams
- 30:07there. They had one of the easier
- 30:09schedules coming into the league.
- 30:10And we talked about all time the 49ers had the preseason, the
- 30:12easiest schedule coming into the league.
- 30:14Obviously the Patriots now surpassed that, but
- 30:16nevertheless, they were a team that was battling through and
- 30:19winning in ways were very ugly. Their point differential wasn't
- 30:22great throughout the year and now you're certainly seeing them
- 30:24because a really high quality, well-rounded Seahawks team, just
- 30:27how good they are. The Seahawks do it on all three
- 30:29levels. The Seahawks have always prided
- 30:31themselves on special teams. What do they do?
- 30:33They get a kick return touchdown, the first play of the
- 30:35game. And 49ers who fired their
- 30:38defensive or special teams coaching staff for a while and
- 30:41had a special teams coach to their previous defensive
- 30:42coordinator before the great Bambi Sala.
- 30:46We're not ready for that kind of thing.
- 30:47And Brock Purdy I was worried about it being being ready for
- 30:50the interior pressure that Seattle brings a three good
- 30:52defensive tackles and boy did they get out matched in this
- 30:54game. Brock Purdy had no time to throw
- 30:56the ball and they have no receivers that can create
- 30:58separation because they decided, all right, let's make our best
- 31:01receiver, our best route runner. And Brandon Iuke frustrated when
- 31:04he came back from injury, so he never wanted to come back at all
- 31:07in Week 12 or Week 13 when he was ready.
- 31:10And all right, let's just go in with what we got.
- 31:12No Ricky Pierce, all because he's hurt too.
- 31:14All right, let's see where we're going to go with.
- 31:15We're going to go with DeMarcus Robinson.
- 31:18You mentioned last week, Jawan Jennings, who's fine but can't
- 31:20separate. Yeah, that's the guy we're going
- 31:22to go up against against Devin Witherspoon and I'm in Warry and
- 31:25Kobe Bryant and all these other guys that are really good in the
- 31:28secondary and a pass rushes. That's good.
- 31:30Then we go to the great Bambi Sal on his defense, a defense
- 31:33that has struggled to rush the passer since they lost.
- 31:35Nick Bose can't get pressure on Sam Darnold and Sam Donald, like
- 31:39you said, didn't have to throw the ball much.
- 31:40And that's another scary level that Seattle has to bring
- 31:42because they can run the ball effectively in this game with a
- 31:4517 nothing lead. And we talked about it
- 31:47throughout the year. Their their rushing volume is
- 31:49actually still really high. As good as Najiba's season was
- 31:52that they could just play that kind of game against a bad run
- 31:54defense and the 49ers, a rookie essentially defensive line with
- 31:58all these linebackers that are hurt and all these other guys
- 32:00hurt. And they just played a complete
- 32:02ball controlled defensive coach type of game with a little mixer
- 32:05of Seahawks flashiness and special teams in there.
- 32:07And the 49ers and Bambi Sala and Kyle Shannon were not ready.
- 32:12That's what kind of what I said earlier.
- 32:14It just, it felt like something was off and you've seen that
- 32:19team answer the bell all year with the injuries and CMC
- 32:24obviously being healthy and doing that.
- 32:27And like they, they alienated, I feel like from what they've done
- 32:32all year. Obviously the Seahawks change a
- 32:35little bit of that and in the way they defend and what they
- 32:37can do. But it just felt like as an, as
- 32:41a coach and, and you know, as a scheme, you make those
- 32:44adjustments and they didn't make any adjustments.
- 32:46That game was tough to watch. And I you felt it from the kick
- 32:51off when they ran a baggage court.
- 32:52And I'm like, Oh, I don't think this is going to end well, but I
- 32:55didn't think it was going to end like.
- 32:56That Java just just ask your ask your son's team how that works
- 32:59for them when they played in the Super Bowl a. 100% and you know,
- 33:03he's, he literally called me as soon as it was over.
- 33:07And then, you know, 15 minutes later he's texting and he's
- 33:09like, damn it. And I'm like, well, yeah, it's,
- 33:12it's going to be a little bit different now.
- 33:15And I had to ask him. I go, who the hell is your
- 33:16backup at this point? Like I had, I had no idea.
- 33:20Like, and he was like, you don't want to know.
- 33:23And I'm like, do I know him? And he goes, no.
- 33:25And then he I was like, I have no idea who the hell that is.
- 33:28But the Niners for, for what they've got through season with
- 33:34all the injuries and then to lay an egg like that, it just it
- 33:38kind of boggled my mind that they didn't make any
- 33:40adjustments. They've obviously done it
- 33:42throughout the year and they just, they didn't, they look
- 33:45flat. There was no adjustments.
- 33:48And when we talk about coaching as as we've done and how
- 33:51important that is, when you see how the game is progressing and
- 33:56you don't make the adjustments and you don't change up a play
- 34:00call, you don't change up your scheme, you don't change
- 34:01anything. And you score 6 points and CMC
- 34:04has less than 75 all-purpose yards.
- 34:07I'd have to look it up. I don't know that answer, but I
- 34:09don't know the last time that he's had less than that.
- 34:12Tampa did it once, I think when he was with Carolina, like I
- 34:15remember, I think he had like. 10 yards in the.
- 34:17Game, Yeah. This guy is one of the best pass
- 34:21catching running backs in NFL history.
- 34:24If you look at his numbers, they're ridiculous.
- 34:26And to see what CMC couldn't do in this game.
- 34:29And it says a lot about McDonald during the way he calls his
- 34:32plays. And, and you have to give some
- 34:34of the defensive players a lot of credit because they were
- 34:37sensational. They did everything they needed
- 34:38to do to keep their team in the game.
- 34:41And, and again, I that goes a lot for Williams and a lot of
- 34:44people, including Jet fans were wondering what happened to
- 34:47Williams when he was here with the New York Jets.
- 34:50He was drafted by the New York Jets.
- 34:51He was a first round talent. This guy was an elite player
- 34:54coming from USC. Remember that Speedy.
- 34:57And then he goes to the Giants. The Giants sign him and he
- 34:59played pretty well with the Giants.
- 35:01The Giants overpaid him and the Giants let him go.
- 35:04The Giants let him go. As a matter of fact, the Giants
- 35:06traded him and he goes over there to Seattle and then
- 35:09McDonald goes over there and develops him even more.
- 35:11This guy has gone through layers in his career and now he's
- 35:15becoming a lead pass rusher, an elite defensive player, elite
- 35:19defensive lineman. Going from The Jets to the
- 35:22Giants and now going to a team that is giving him an
- 35:25opportunity to become an elite player says a lot about the
- 35:28team. Their secondary is sensational,
- 35:29speedy, absolutely sensational. What Seattle does and what the
- 35:32way they put pressure up and, and, and they make you, they
- 35:35force you to throw the ball into places feel so very
- 35:38uncomfortable doing. Kyle Shanahan had no answer, no
- 35:43answer to Seattle's defense, none whatsoever.
- 35:46By the I believe by the second quarter, I think Kyle Shanahan
- 35:50was waving the red flag. I, I really do believe he knew
- 35:53that there was no way in hell they were coming back in this
- 35:55game. And that says a lot about who
- 35:57McDonald is and the way he coaches.
- 35:59The way the place think about it, before this game, everybody
- 36:03was talking about the board being, whoa, let's watch.
- 36:06Let's go see these guys celebrate what they did, winning
- 36:09the conference and dancing and prancing around and drinking
- 36:12wine like they won a Super Bowl. They were going to a Super Bowl
- 36:15And and that was something that IA lot of people believe they
- 36:18were going to mimic and and and try to attack going into the
- 36:22game. San Francisco.
- 36:23Well ladies and gentlemen, before the game started and
- 36:26after the game, the only team that's dancing and prancing
- 36:28around is the same team that was doing it before the season ends
- 36:32ended. It was Seattle.
- 36:34They absolutely embarrassed the San Francisco 49ers with George
- 36:40Kittle. Not with George Kittle.
- 36:42You could put Nick Bosa there, Warner, it doesn't matter who
- 36:45was there. I don't think they stood a
- 36:47chance against the Seattle Seahawks team.
- 36:50They had a game plan. They out outsmarted Robert
- 36:54Soller and outplay called Kyle Shanahan.
- 36:57That is the facts Jack and that's all I'm going to say
- 36:59about that. There is nothing else to say
- 37:02about about this game, but utter embarrassment by San Francisco
- 37:06putting up and laying up a lousy goose egg.
- 37:09Being that, guess where the Super Bowl is going to be this
- 37:12year, Speedy. Oh yeah, San.
- 37:13Francisco remember the last time it was in San Francisco?
- 37:16Who was playing in it? Oh, it was.
- 37:18It was the Broncos, I believe. No, it wasn't.
- 37:22Was it the IT was the Broncos and the Panthers, I'm pretty
- 37:24sure. No, it wasn't the last time they
- 37:26played in San Francisco. Speedy was the San Francisco
- 37:3149ers and the Baltimore Ravens. Remember when the lights went
- 37:34out? That was New Orleans.
- 37:36You sure that was new? That was in New Orleans,
- 37:37remember, because I had the conspiracy theory.
- 37:39Wait a second, you sure about that?
- 37:40Yes, because I remember I was, I was in high schools my senior
- 37:43year of high school. I remember I had the conspiracy
- 37:45theory of, oh, this is Sean Payton's revenge on the Saints
- 37:47organization. Oh OK, so maybe I was wrong
- 37:49about that it. Was the Broncos of the Panthers?
- 37:51It was the first year that stadium.
- 37:52The fact here is with with Kyle Shanahan in the position that
- 37:56Kyle Shanahan is going to be in the offseason is is put up or
- 37:59shut up now It's put up or shut up time for Kyle Shanahan in
- 38:03that San Francisco 49ers team. Because I we're not going to get
- 38:07into Robert Soller big thing because we're going to talk
- 38:10about a little bit later, but this is a team that's going into
- 38:13an offseason once again failing. And Kyle Shanahan, all he knows
- 38:18is fail, failure because this guy is not won a Super Bowl.
- 38:21Every time he's gone to the Super Bowl, he's failed as an
- 38:23offensive coordinator, as a head coach.
- 38:25He is an absolute failure. And then going into a divisional
- 38:28game where everybody thought that this was going to be
- 38:30somewhat of a game, somewhat of a challenge because of the way
- 38:32Brock Purdy was playing in the play call.
- 38:34And Kyle Shanahan, what he did was a masterful thing last week
- 38:38and just lay up in a lousy goose egg says to me one thing and one
- 38:42thing only. I don't want to see ESPN.
- 38:44I don't want to see Cbsi don't want to see anybody Bleacher
- 38:46Report or anybody interview Ed. And I'm saying this Ed
- 38:50McCaffrey, and I'm saying this from the heart or Mike Shanahan.
- 38:53Like they want something like, Oh my God, they they have a
- 38:57chance to do something great. I remember when and I'll say
- 39:00this, Kyle, it wasn't Kyle Shanahan.
- 39:04It was it was I'm trying Christian Mccaffrey's mom
- 39:10sitting there and she when they mentioned the Super Bowl that
- 39:13they lost against Kansas City, she got up and she she rolled
- 39:16her eyes like they should have won the game should have could
- 39:20have, would have. Here's the reason why you lost
- 39:21that game because she stopped running the ball to who your son
- 39:25that was obviously didn't get the rock enough in the fourth
- 39:28quarter, which if they got the rock enough in that in the
- 39:31fourth, in the fourth quarter, maybe they beat the Kansas City
- 39:34Chiefs. Maybe they shocked the world and
- 39:36knock off the great Patrick Mahomes in D Reed, but they
- 39:39didn't. You know why?
- 39:40Because they're an absolute joke.
- 39:42All right, before we transition to the next game, we have a we
- 39:44have a caller. Our 49ers fan of our network,
- 39:46Mr. Brian Snow, is on the phone. Brian, let's hear you.
- 39:51Errol, I'm going to playfully yell at you.
- 39:54I can't. Wait, I can't wait.
- 39:58No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
- 40:00I'm kidding. What you guys said are absolute
- 40:02facts. And I got, I got no argument.
- 40:06I sat and called that game Saturday night and I was
- 40:11embarrassed. I've been a 49er fan since 1980
- 40:15and I've seen my share of clunkers, even under the quote
- 40:19UN quote great Jet York's leadership.
- 40:22But what happened Saturday night put an end to that era as far as
- 40:25I'm concerned. It may be time for Kyle Shanahan
- 40:29and company to just push the plunger and blow it up and start
- 40:34a game because you got 4, maybe five players, two of them on
- 40:40injured reserve in terms of Nick Bosa and Fred Warner.
- 40:45And you can build. You can build with them, but
- 40:48it's just going to take a few years to do so.
- 40:51But you got to bring in some fresh minds, some good minds to
- 40:56rebuild, to rebuild that. And as far as the two Super
- 40:59Bowls that they played in with, with Kyle Shanahan, both of
- 41:04those should have been wins. First of all, Raheem Mostert
- 41:08should have run for 200 yards in that game.
- 41:10And a hundred of those should have come in the fourth quarter
- 41:13because they had the Chiefs on the ropes and they didn't knock
- 41:18them out. They had they had the Chiefs on
- 41:21the rolls twice, once in Vegas and once in Miami, both Super
- 41:27Bowls 54 and 58 and they didn't deliver the knockout punch.
- 41:31I have a problem with that. I have a big problem with that.
- 41:34And since that's and since those two Super Bowls happen, it's
- 41:39been, as you say, best Errol. And I know I owe you an
- 41:43appearance on Snowman in the morning.
- 41:44I've been revamping and put putting everything back
- 41:47together. It's been in the emotive words
- 41:51of Joe Beningo. What a disgrace.
- 41:56And that's all I got. And you said it best.
- 41:59And that's a 49er fan, ladies and gentlemen, a guy that I,
- 42:01I've come to respect. He, he does do all the calls for
- 42:05the 49ers every single week. He's he's a die hard 49er fan.
- 42:10And I'm talking about the Joe Montana era.
- 42:12I'm talking about this wrong era.
- 42:14This is this is a guy that's been following them for years
- 42:17and he speaks the truth. And, and to me, I think they
- 42:20should break everything up. And that means Kyle Shannon and
- 42:22John Lynch get rid of them all. Start over, start from scratch.
- 42:26They they got to start, they they got to start over because
- 42:29if they try to run it back with this group, considering Seattle
- 42:32not only not not only socked them in the mouth, but kicked
- 42:35them in the stomach and kicked them in the ass.
- 42:38What are they going to? Where are they going to go from
- 42:39here? That's why Sal is gone, Kubiak's
- 42:42next, and then Shanahan's going to be the lone wolf.
- 42:47What are you going to do, bring Steve Wilkes back in?
- 42:49Steve Wilkes got lucky for six games in San Francisco in 2023
- 42:53and let and LED them to the Super Bowl.
- 42:55But in listening to an interview with their fabulous voice, Greg
- 42:59Papa, another cancer survivor who's near and dear to my heart,
- 43:03he lost the locker room. He lost the locker room.
- 43:06And you can have a team as proud as the 49ers have coordinators
- 43:12be on a revolving door and continue to lose the locker
- 43:16room. We've seen it before with many.
- 43:19We've seen it before with many Super Bowl champions that have
- 43:21fallen off the radar, especially in football.
- 43:25Sean Payton. Sean Payton in New Orleans, Dan
- 43:28Reeves in Denver. Now, Dan Reeves with the New
- 43:30York Giants in 1993, when they miraculously, and I mean this
- 43:37got to the playoffs in 1993, what happened?
- 43:40Ricky Waters happened and they had to blow and, and they had to
- 43:43blow it up then. So they, they, they got to,
- 43:47they, they got to start over. They, they, they got, they, they
- 43:51got to start over. And this is coming from a fellow
- 43:55who's followed the 49ers since 1980 and has been an insider
- 43:59from my own website since 2003. They they got to blow it up.
- 44:03They, they have to blow it up. And they got to get some fresh
- 44:06players in there and they got to follow Seattle's pattern in.
- 44:10And in turn, Seattle followed San Francisco's pattern.
- 44:13Get them young, get them into the draft, coach them up, get
- 44:16the right coach in there. And they and they going to start
- 44:20over again. And Errol, you've heard people
- 44:22criticize me many times, but I don't tell the truth about my
- 44:25teams. Let me say this to those who
- 44:28think that you haven't listened to my show for once, have you?
- 44:31Because I call it like you listen to me every morning.
- 44:35I call it like I see it every day do.
- 44:38You feel better. I call it.
- 44:40Do you feel better now? I do.
- 44:44All right, I, I just want to, I just want to make sure you feel
- 44:46better because I, I wanted to give you your time to just like,
- 44:50just to, to get the feeling out. You know, I, I know how it feels
- 44:54to to want to punch something because being a Jet fan, I want
- 44:57to punch everything. Right.
- 44:59You want to think about this funny alternative universe?
- 45:01What if the 49ers actually do fire Kyle Shanahan?
- 45:04He becomes the Bambi Salah offensive coordinator.
- 45:10That would be so funny. I'm I can't wait for you.
- 45:14I can't wait for you to call. I can't wait for you to call in
- 45:16and and talk jets with me, because the other times that the
- 45:20other times that you did, I did nothing but put the camera on
- 45:23you and give you the floor. So I thank you for doing that
- 45:26doing that for me and I thank you guys for allowing me
- 45:29allowing me to call in. I love you guys very, very much
- 45:32Thank you for having me. I appreciate.
- 45:33It Bryan Snow, ladies and gentlemen, snowman in the
- 45:35morning. He airs every single morning on
- 45:38the Worldwide Sports Radio Network.
- 45:40He does such a great job all over or he does the play
- 45:43calling. He calls so many games.
- 45:45He does everything and I, I love him.
- 45:47He's a cancer. Obviously all the cancer
- 45:51awareness, he's gone through so much stuff and the guy is still
- 45:54taking, still doing so many great things and we love him.
- 45:56He is a great person and and one of the best voices on the radio
- 46:00today. So thank you, Brian, for joining
- 46:03us, and we love you. And now let's get into probably
- 46:06the worst game of the weekend. And boy, oh boy, was this a bad,
- 46:12watchable game. And if you're a Patriot fan, I
- 46:16don't want to hear you. Patriot fans, give me that.
- 46:18Drake May is this, and Drake May is that.
- 46:20Drake May had a horrible game, a horrible game.
- 46:24Now does it? Do I think Drake May is a bad
- 46:26quarterback? No, I think Drake May could be
- 46:29an elite quarterback in this league for many, many years.
- 46:31We'll see how his development works with Mike Vrabo.
- 46:34Mike Vrabo making excuses. We all know that he makes a lot
- 46:38of excuses after, you know, during the half, they asked him,
- 46:40what do you need to do to keep the fumbles away and, and, and
- 46:43keep the fumbles from happening. And he says, well, we got to
- 46:46protect the quarterback. Really.
- 46:48Because here's what I would have done if I was Drake May.
- 46:50Stop holding the ball in the pocket as long as you did.
- 46:53And this has been his problem all season long.
- 46:56How many fumbles has Drake May had in the game in the league
- 47:00all season long? He led the league in fumbles, He
- 47:04led the league in fumbles. And in this game, what did he
- 47:07have 3/4? Four and two lost.
- 47:09Two lost and I, I will say this, you can't blame the Texans
- 47:13defense on this loss. You can't.
- 47:16I mean, Anderson was all over the place.
- 47:17This guy to me and I'll I'll give a shout out to Jeff because
- 47:21Jeff has told me many, many times what this kid is going to
- 47:24be in the league and how talented he is going to be.
- 47:27Anderson is one of the elite pass rushers in the league.
- 47:29There's no question that he does.
- 47:30It is him and he had his first all pro season of his career.
- 47:34He was sensational. He really was Danielle.
- 47:38Danielle Hunter was great too, man, 22 sacks in a game.
- 47:42You can't blame the front 7 of this team.
- 47:44They were all over the place. They were sensational all game
- 47:49long. Put pressure on Drake May, put
- 47:52pressure on the offensive line, the young offensive line of the
- 47:57the snowy, snowy New England fans and snowy New England
- 48:01offensive line. I will say this to me, CJ
- 48:06Stroud, you have to watch in this game is not the answer.
- 48:10He's not. And to me, I Speedy, you know, I
- 48:14was talking about, you know, before this show and who I blame
- 48:17for this. Hey, Coach.
- 48:19D'amico Ryan's. Yeah, D'amico Ryan's is to blame
- 48:22on not bringing in Mills. Mills was the reason why they
- 48:27went on that winning streak. And I I know everybody's going
- 48:29to say you got to trust your veteran quarterback.
- 48:31You got to trust your kid that you're drafting in the first
- 48:34round, this number two pick of the draft.
- 48:36But guess what? CJ Strout was not good all
- 48:38season long. In the second-half of the season
- 48:40against really bad talent. He showed up and he played
- 48:43decent, but he wasn't the elite quarterback he was the first two
- 48:47years in and especially his freshman year where he had one
- 48:50of the greatest seasons of fresh a freshman quarterback has had
- 48:53in the NFL. He made a load of mistakes.
- 48:56He threw 4 interceptions in this game.
- 48:58He did not show up in this game and really look like he wanted
- 49:01to play in this game. Do you know what his quarterback
- 49:03rating was in this game? Probably the worst in NFL
- 49:07history. Playoff in a divisional game In
- 49:10any game, any Series A 28. Oh wow, I was going to say 32.
- 49:14OK, A. 28I. Was going to I was going to be
- 49:17in the 30s. 28 I mean it was in a horrendous game for him and
- 49:24Drake made Drake made was not good. 16 for 27179 yards, 3
- 49:29touchdowns, 1 interception, 4 forced fumbles.
- 49:32He was not good. But guess what?
- 49:35The Patriots did enough and boy oh boy, that one handed grab in
- 49:39the fourth quarter by how do you pronounce his name?
- 49:41Booty Booty, Booty. Java's favorite wide receiver.
- 49:45I I mean. You got to have the booty.
- 49:47Hey, Sean Booty was that catch that he made in this game, that
- 49:52one handed grab, one handed grab was sensation one of the
- 49:55greatest grabs I've seen in the playoffs in a very long time.
- 49:59That was sensational to watch. And I, I know everybody would
- 50:03have thought, hey, Stefan Diggs was going to be that go to guy.
- 50:06No, when they needed booty to make a play, they were going to
- 50:09booty, especially in the fourth quarter.
- 50:11And I, I, I, he spread out the ball very well.
- 50:13Drake me. I can't say that he didn't.
- 50:15He gave the ball to Austin Hooper.
- 50:17He gave the ball to Douglas and Diggs and booty and Henry.
- 50:21Everybody touched the ball in this game.
- 50:23But Kyle Williams it was. Like a sixth round rookie.
- 50:28Yeah, but I'm just saying everybody touched the ball and
- 50:31and I'll say this, if they play like this, they're not going to
- 50:34beat the Bo Knicks lost Broncos in Denver.
- 50:40But to me, Drake May is better than what is his name again,
- 50:46Shitham or Jared Stidham? Just just boy, you didn't get
- 50:50that joke, did you? Oh, I did.
- 50:52I mean, I just, there's no way in hell that the Broncos are
- 50:58going to win this game against Drake May, even though they have
- 51:01the home game now, unless the Broncos put up a great defensive
- 51:05game plan against Drake May in this defense, on this offense.
- 51:08I, I, I'll say this, Rabel's defensive play calling and this
- 51:12defense was sensational. Their secondary was great.
- 51:15Jones was sensational. Gonzalez was, Gonzalez was
- 51:18sensational. And I'll say this, all the teams
- 51:21that passed up on Christian Gonzalez, Oh, oh, the Patriots.
- 51:26And, and I'll say this, yes, Bill Belichick is laughing to
- 51:30the bank because he was Bill Belichick's last, I think last
- 51:34first round draft. He was, He was the 17th overall
- 51:36pick when a lot of people thought he was the top 10 corner
- 51:39definitely, and then maybe a top five corner.
- 51:41Now, Seattle obviously looks smart taking Witherspoon because
- 51:43Witherspoon's a great too. But there are a lot of other
- 51:45teams that took some corners that have already been cut from
- 51:48their rosters that don't look as bright, right?
- 51:50Now, it was horrible to watch. This is the worst football you
- 51:53could possibly watch. And when you look at the score,
- 51:55you're going to say, well, how could you say that?
- 51:56I mean, it was still a high scoring game, 28 to 16.
- 52:00I it was something that if you're a football thing, you
- 52:03don't want to watch. Yeah, if you like good defense,
- 52:06maybe, But it wasn't even the defenses forcing the fumbles.
- 52:09Except I guess I, I would say the Texans were, but they were
- 52:13just. To me, CJ Stroud's mistakes were
- 52:16his mistakes and his mistakes only.
- 52:19He made more mistakes than I could even try to compare to any
- 52:24player, any quarterback in history in the playoffs.
- 52:27I don't even think a hurt Peyton Manning would have made as many
- 52:30mistakes as is a guy of CJ Stroud's talent.
- 52:34I mean, seriously, Peyton Manning at the tail end of his
- 52:36career when he won a Super Bowl, he was not good, but he made the
- 52:39throws that he needed to make to win a Super Bowl against the
- 52:42Carolina Panthers. This guy did not show up.
- 52:45He looked like he didn't want to be there.
- 52:47He looked like he was completely beat in the first half of the
- 52:50game. Speedy.
- 52:51Yeah, and we've heard over the, we've seen it over the last like
- 52:5415 years or so when before Houston became more relevant
- 52:58franchise because they were up pretty bad the 1st 10 years of
- 53:00their existence. But the Texans were always like
- 53:03a a great team that just needed the quarterback for a while.
- 53:05They had TJ Yates and Case Keenum and all these other
- 53:08random rotational guys. They overpaid Brock Osweiler
- 53:11after they won the Super Bowl with the Broncos.
- 53:14Yes, yes, you're trying to forget that one.
- 53:16I'm sure your son is too Java, but they gave him that
- 53:20ridiculous contract and then they got to Sean Watson.
- 53:22Obviously he was good in the playoffs for a little while, but
- 53:24then obviously that flamed out. But now CJ Stradley bringing in
- 53:27is the number two overall pick was supposed to be this
- 53:29allegedly most talented guy in that draft class.
- 53:32He didn't go number one. I thought Bright Shung was
- 53:34better, but most people thought Straw was better and he had that
- 53:36unbelievable rookie year. And obviously the expectation
- 53:38will be a lot higher. He's kind of fallen to that,
- 53:41kind of just mediocre. Falling flat on his.
- 53:43Face and I don't think he's reached that level where he
- 53:46thinks I I could just be a gay manager type and that's where.
- 53:50He tastes himself. That's where I think that he
- 53:52wasn't ready for that kind of thing with Mike Vrabel, a coach
- 53:55who's familiar with him. He coached him with the Titans,
- 53:58against him with the Titans. He has played Harold Landry,
- 54:01that's played against him with the Titans, others with the
- 54:03Jaguars and Chase On, and a bunch of others that played
- 54:06against him know his tendencies and they just exposed his
- 54:10weaknesses badly. You're right, the Texans defense
- 54:12did everything they counted in that game.
- 54:13It's not their fault. And Jeff said something very
- 54:15interesting. OSU quarterbacks have always
- 54:18been bad in the NFL, correct? And, and, and I, I thought this
- 54:22was going to change because I thought CJ Stroud was going to
- 54:24change the whole thought to that.
- 54:25Now I don't know what saying it's going to be.
- 54:28Maybe he's the best one. We'll see how that all works out
- 54:31and and more, more than likely he goes to the New York Jets and
- 54:34absolutely bombs out. So it it's typical The Jets
- 54:38draft saying and he is a completely bomb.
- 54:40Thrust. I don't know The Jets.
- 54:40The Jets are usually bet worse at cursing Ohio State wide
- 54:43receivers. I'm just saying, I mean Ohio
- 54:45State wide receivers are good. I mean, we, we've.
- 54:47Finally broke it, but after the Devin Smith and Steven Hill era.
- 54:51No, but I'm saying that the most first round Ohio State Buckeye
- 54:55wide receivers are pretty damn good.
- 54:57OK, so I, I just my question here is, is how is how bad is
- 55:02this game going to be next week in Denver?
- 55:05Are we going to watch a Drake made complete passes?
- 55:08Are we going to watch Stidham outclass and I'll play an
- 55:13organization that drafted him in the seventh round?
- 55:15I, I don't know what to believe, but here's what I do know.
- 55:18CJ Strout is on the hot seat. He's on the hot seat.
- 55:22There is no way this organization in the offseason.
- 55:25And by the way, Mills is a free agent.
- 55:27A. 100%. Well, yeah, it's Year 3, so they
- 55:30have to decide on a fifth year option, which they will probably
- 55:33give him. But we were talking about even
- 55:35if like, he had a good game and maybe they make a run to a Super
- 55:37Bowl, maybe pay him this offseason, a good contract, now
- 55:39you can't even do that. You can't, no.
- 55:41You cannot do that because Mills, to me, play better.
- 55:44And D'amico Ryan should have let Mills play you.
- 55:46You should have went ride or die with all the guys on your team.
- 55:50And I know you're going to ride or die with your starting
- 55:52quarterback. I know that's the guy you
- 55:53drafted, but Mills was the one that helped you get there.
- 55:56You're going to ride or die with that guy.
- 55:58We've seen backup quarterbacks take teams to a Super Bowl.
- 56:01We've seen that before. So why can't we see that again?
- 56:04So remember the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?
- 56:06More crimes than not too. And then that turns into them
- 56:09getting another contract and and extending their career.
- 56:13I'm telling you right now, if I'm The Jets.
- 56:14Might be the case. I'm reaching out to Mills, agent
- 56:17to Neoses. I think he's a free agent.
- 56:19I'm absolutely reaching out to Mills agent and trying to bring
- 56:22him in. That's the guy I'm looking for.
- 56:25And there are other teams are gonna be looking at Mills too.
- 56:28But he has proven that he can play as a quarterback in this
- 56:31league and he's played efficient.
- 56:33I, I talked to Jeff about this before and I said, what do you
- 56:35think about Mills? He says Mills is competent
- 56:37quarterback. He's one of the more competent
- 56:39backup quarterbacks in the league.
- 56:40I've talked to a lot of experts about some of these guys in the
- 56:43league and who you what backup quarterback would you start in
- 56:46the future if he becomes available?
- 56:48And a lot of guys like Mills, I, I think that's a guy that's a
- 56:51find. And if you're an organization
- 56:53looking for that guy or looking for a guy or a diamond in a
- 56:56rough, that's the guy in Tamika Ryan's completely struck out on
- 57:00this, completely struck out on this.
- 57:01And that's why they're not moving on.
- 57:03That's why the Texans in that dominant defense.
- 57:05If, if the Texans win this game, the Texans, Texans beat the
- 57:08Broncos and, and maybe win the Super Bowl this year.
- 57:11I think the way they way Anderson is playing and Hunter
- 57:14is playing, they're as good of a tandem as anybody we've seen in
- 57:17the league. And to watch them go down the
- 57:20way they did, yes, it was snowing, but there's no excuse
- 57:22to it to to make the excuses that they made with the
- 57:26offensive side of the ball was just absolutely putrid.
- 57:29Say a lot about Tamika Ryan's and his play calling.
- 57:31Yeah, on the Patriots standpoint too, I do want to bring that up
- 57:34because the the Broncos are still going to apply pressure to
- 57:37them where the Texans, they now they're maybe tested with facing
- 57:40that good of a pass rush. They're going to have to adjust
- 57:42to play differently on offense than they did because Drake May,
- 57:45his reads were not great, especially in the in the second
- 57:48in quarter. I thought that's where I think
- 57:50two of those fumbles happening and then the one he lost was in
- 57:52the third quarter and it really he really only looked like he
- 57:55was crisp maybe towards the fourth quarter.
- 57:57But at that point, like you said, the Texans defense is
- 57:58going to be tired at that point because of how ballovers they've
- 58:01been on the field because the CJ strike kept turning the ball
- 58:03over. They can't have that kind of
- 58:04game plan against the Broncos and expect to, even if they do
- 58:08play Jarrett Stidham because that's where the route they're
- 58:10going. Sean Payton's a smart coach.
- 58:12This is a really good championship caliber defense.
- 58:14Patriots have a good defense, but it's not a championship
- 58:17caliber defense like you see the Broncos, the Texans, even the
- 58:20Seahawks like teams like that. They can't afford to play like
- 58:23that. As sloppy as they were, they're
- 58:24not going to be able to run the ball as effectively either as
- 58:26they did in this game or Andre Stevenson.
- 58:27I believe it's 75 yards in this game.
- 58:30Henderson got it going in the second-half a little more.
- 58:32But the Broncos can stop the run a lot better too.
- 58:34And I they can't be comfortable with the way they played and
- 58:37expect to be able to go to a Super Bowl and nevertheless win
- 58:391. What do you what do you think
- 58:41the Broncos have to do from their end?
- 58:43Obviously not having Bo Nicks that they're going to have to
- 58:46change up to to try and win this game.
- 58:48I've got it. Ron.
- 58:50Ron, run. That's it.
- 58:53And it's interesting there is a practice window.
- 58:55Maybe he'll play for JK Dobbins. We'll see.
- 58:57The other thing is run with their receivers, too.
- 59:00Mims is a speedy guy. They could use a lot of the
- 59:02rookies that they, a lot of the rookies they drafted later.
- 59:05Gadget guys are going to. Sean Payton's a great gadget
- 59:08caller, so he is going to try to use gadget plays.
- 59:11I don't know if there's any wide receivers that at one point of
- 59:14their careers have been a quarterback in high school or
- 59:18something of that magnitude. If there are, we've seen some
- 59:21crazy things by Sean Payton. This guy is the masterful, he's
- 59:24a masterful coach that likes to use trick plays and, and gadget
- 59:29plays over the years. So am I going to be crazy to
- 59:32believe that something, somebody like John Payton's going to have
- 59:35some cut, some kind of thing drawn up or some kind of play
- 59:38drawing up or how many players are going to be drawn up in the
- 59:41game in the first or second quarter that can absolutely
- 59:43devalue the opportunity to take over this game?
- 59:47I, I think it might and, and, and, and again, this defense is
- 59:49elite. It is elite, but they're going
- 59:52to have to show up in the big parts of this game and shut down
- 59:54Drake May. Drake May is still a quality
- 59:56quarterback. You can't say that he's not.
- 59:58And they're going to have to put pressure like the Texans did if
- 1:00:02they plan to beat him. Before we move on to the Bears
- 1:00:04and the Rams game, Jabba, you were talking about how many
- 1:00:06trick plays A-Team should do too.
- 1:00:07Like the Bears and the Rams will play fearless that we saw.
- 1:00:10We've seen the Broncos at times play fearless with some of their
- 1:00:14reverses. They can't back off now just
- 1:00:16because they have a backup quarterback in and just all of a
- 1:00:18sudden be too conservative because I can burn them so.
- 1:00:22Fair. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:00:26the final game of the week was a doozy.
- 1:00:30Boy, oh boy, was it a doozy. And if you're a Rams fan, you,
- 1:00:37you were sweating. I was sweating.
- 1:00:40Taking a deep breath, that's what you're doing.
- 1:00:42You were sweating because what Caleb Williams did in the fourth
- 1:00:46quarter and I don't, I don't have to talk about anything more
- 1:00:49than the 4th. Quarter, give a damn what
- 1:00:50anybody says to do what he did, throw off his back foot, rotate
- 1:00:55his hips like people that haven't thrown a ball to run
- 1:01:00back and throw that 50 yards in the air off your back foot to be
- 1:01:04able to rotate. Yeah, they fell out of position
- 1:01:07or whatever. I don't care.
- 1:01:08You can say whatever you want. That was one of the most
- 1:01:12impressive things I've ever seen because I know how hard it is to
- 1:01:15throw an object. But what he did right there, I,
- 1:01:18my mouth dropped and I don't get impressed by people throwing
- 1:01:21things a lot. But that right there was
- 1:01:24something where I'm just like you, you can't, you can't
- 1:01:28describe it like how hard that is in the moment.
- 1:01:32And we're like, he could do that in any aspect, but like in that
- 1:01:36moment to be able to have the awareness and just, and you've
- 1:01:40talked about it, you, you were sold on Caleb from the get go.
- 1:01:438th grade. In the way he was as an athlete
- 1:01:45and like as we seen him grow in the second-half and become the
- 1:01:50better quarterback that you said he was from the get go, to be
- 1:01:54able to slow the game down and do those things, that was
- 1:01:57absolutely one of the most unbelievable throws I've seen
- 1:02:00from a quarterback. I've been wrong about certain
- 1:02:02quarterbacks, Zach Wilson, B1, but I was not wrong about Caleb
- 1:02:05Williams and nobody wants to give me any credit when I do
- 1:02:07pick the right. Actually, I know you don't.
- 1:02:10You did. But there are a lot of people
- 1:02:12that don't and and Caleb Williams is special.
- 1:02:15The things that he does off the back foot and moving inside and
- 1:02:19out of the pocket, how he escaped from those 3 defensive
- 1:02:21lineman and to get that ball off to Cole Commit was just just
- 1:02:26absolutely amazing. It really was in the game was
- 1:02:29boring. It was defense, it was mistakes.
- 1:02:32There was just really the first half was pathetic and and the
- 1:02:36Rams, I thought they were going to put up points and I thought
- 1:02:38there was going to be chase, there was going to be high
- 1:02:40scoring and it was going to be a path all the way.
- 1:02:42If it goes to overtime, it would be like 35 to 30 or 37 to 42 or
- 1:02:49something of that magnitude. That was going to be, you know,
- 1:02:51Puka Nakua's day or something like that.
- 1:02:53It just wasn't it really wasn't. It was to me, it was, it was bad
- 1:02:58out. It was snowing.
- 1:03:00But there's no excuse. I know the, the, the field out
- 1:03:03there, it is grass and it's an old Chicago Bears stadium.
- 1:03:07But it it to me, the fans were loud at the Rams.
- 1:03:11It was cold. You can see Matthew Stafford,
- 1:03:13and I got to give Matthew Stafford, and I'll say this, I'm
- 1:03:18not a Sean McVeigh fan. Anybody that listens to the
- 1:03:20show. I'm not a Sean McVeigh fan.
- 1:03:21I got to give Sean McVeigh a little bit of credit for this
- 1:03:24because to travel all the way to Chicago, when everybody said
- 1:03:27that and they were practicing in 80° weather and they were using
- 1:03:33like this, I don't remember what they were saying before the
- 1:03:36game. They were putting things in
- 1:03:37their shoes and their gloves. And I'll get to that at the end
- 1:03:39of the sell. This crazy crap that they were
- 1:03:42putting to try to make sure that their feet and their hands were
- 1:03:45warm. It it says a lot about Sean
- 1:03:48McVay and and the way he believes in his team and the way
- 1:03:50he believes in his quarterback and Matthew Stafford.
- 1:03:53He didn't have one of his best days, but he did enough, enough
- 1:03:57to win this game. And that's scary to go to play
- 1:04:02the Rams in Seattle. That to me, Seattle should be
- 1:04:05afraid of the Rams because the Rams are finding ways to win
- 1:04:08games that honestly, a lot of people probably would have
- 1:04:11thought they were going to lose that game after Caleb completed
- 1:04:13that pass with 18 seconds left. I really believe going into
- 1:04:17overtime, Chicago was winning that game and Caleb Williams
- 1:04:20made a bad throw to curl through an interception and it looked
- 1:04:23like they were going to win the game.
- 1:04:25They it looked like Caleb Williams was confident and and
- 1:04:29Caleb Williams didn't cry. I mean, what we've known him to
- 1:04:31do over the years, especially at USC is cry when he loses the big
- 1:04:35game. He, he was a man about things.
- 1:04:38Even when he spoke to the press, he was man, he was a manly
- 1:04:41person and a player. That's something I got to give
- 1:04:43Caleb Williams a little bit of credit for because over the
- 1:04:46years that we've watched him, he's done things that you make
- 1:04:49you shake your head, But I, maybe it's Ben Johnson and, and,
- 1:04:53and I, I do believe Sean McVeigh stuffed it down Ben Johnson's
- 1:04:57throat. And if, if Ben Johnson came back
- 1:04:59and won that game, you know, Ben Johnson would have been, it
- 1:05:01would have been as as loud and as rambunctious as he's been
- 1:05:06over the last couple of weeks. So I, I got to give the Rams a
- 1:05:10little bit of credit. It was back and forth in the
- 1:05:13fourth quarter. It was so fun to watch in the
- 1:05:16fourth quarter. The rest of the game was
- 1:05:17pathetic. And then the overtime I the Rams
- 1:05:20made a mistake. Matthew Stafford thought he lost
- 1:05:22it for his team. He he looked like he did and,
- 1:05:25and and and the Bears defense played very well.
- 1:05:28Put a lot of pressure. You got to give the Bears a lot
- 1:05:30of credit the defense in the way they they drew up some of these
- 1:05:33defensive play calling. It was fun to watch.
- 1:05:35And but the the, the play of the day and the play of the game and
- 1:05:39the play of the week was the unbelievable toss by Caleb
- 1:05:43Williams was absolutely amazing. If you want to pick something
- 1:05:47out of anything I saw this weekend, it was that it was
- 1:05:50special. Yeah, and you were talking about
- 1:05:52the the ability to make throws in so many different areas for
- 1:05:56any of these quarterbacks, too. Like, you're making it, you're
- 1:05:58making it 20 yards back essentially.
- 1:06:00With that much pressure on you, it's very hard for any
- 1:06:03quarterback to do. We talk about some of these.
- 1:06:05Hello, marries. Aaron Rodgers have made the
- 1:06:07obviously the unbelievable escape that Eli Manning made in
- 1:06:09the Super Bowl against the Patriots, like just a throw,
- 1:06:13just an ability backtracking. That might be the best one that
- 1:06:15we've seen. And in the pressure of that kind
- 1:06:18of moment to have that kind of composure to do it in the
- 1:06:20playoffs is put is going to put Caleb Williams on another level
- 1:06:24before we get to, I know Jeff on the phone.
- 1:06:26That's why I want to get to in a bit.
- 1:06:27You mentioned the Bears defense, though.
- 1:06:28This was the game I wanted to see their secondary, get their
- 1:06:31tests in. And they did that in the game.
- 1:06:32They held their own. The pass rush did very well, but
- 1:06:34the Rams just that much better and Chris Schwell is harder for
- 1:06:36his defenses. All right.
- 1:06:38Are you ready to hear Jeff? All right, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:06:41Jeff from Tampa. Jeff, you could call back.
- 1:06:44You could call back. I don't know if he got
- 1:06:45disconnected. He might have got disconnected,
- 1:06:46maybe he was a little upset. All right, Jeff, Jeff call back,
- 1:06:49I'll finish my thoughts on this game as well with the the Rams
- 1:06:52running game I think just was a little bit better.
- 1:06:53I think that was the main difference where the Bears, I've
- 1:06:56mentioned they're against the Rams top five run defense and
- 1:06:59we're not going to be able to get it going.
- 1:07:00And I worried on the inside run game they wouldn't be able to
- 1:07:03and they didn't. And I think that was a hard for
- 1:07:05them to overcome and be the well-rounded offense that they
- 1:07:07were supposed to be. And I think the Brams just had a
- 1:07:10little more when the Bears shut down Pokonukua, they had a good
- 1:07:12game plan for. Him.
- 1:07:13All right, we got Jeff on the phone.
- 1:07:15How are you my friend? I'm good, Earl.
- 1:07:18How are you of? Course you would say something
- 1:07:20stupid like that, but typical Jeff, what's up?
- 1:07:23Buddy, Caleb Williams is an absolute luck box.
- 1:07:27That's all he is, is an absolute luck box.
- 1:07:30That dude makes some worst throws you've ever seen.
- 1:07:34Jeff, I knew you were going to come out and try to attack
- 1:07:37something that I was going to say, but not.
- 1:07:39Attacking you, There's no attack there.
- 1:07:41Caleb Williams stinks. He does not.
- 1:07:43Every weapon in the world. He's got Roma Doonsie, he's got
- 1:07:46DJ Moore, Colston, Loveland. Luther Burden is emerging.
- 1:07:50Cole Commet is on that team. How many more weapons do we have
- 1:07:53to give this guy? And we're still watching him
- 1:07:55fall down and throw terrible passes half the time.
- 1:07:58Jeff, when when a guy goes out there and makes a pass like that
- 1:08:02on national television at the end of the game with 18 seconds
- 1:08:06left of a. Game, it was you.
- 1:08:08Could say it's luck all you want, you could say whatever you
- 1:08:10want to say about it. It's still a pass.
- 1:08:12He made the pass and you got to give him credit.
- 1:08:14It was a it was a good pass, but you guys are all acting like no
- 1:08:17one else can do it. Josh Allen did it, but Lamar
- 1:08:20Jackson's done it. Patrick Mahomes has done it it.
- 1:08:22Was 18 seconds. You're naming probably the few
- 1:08:24that can. 18 seconds in the fourth quarter where your team
- 1:08:28is going to lose, they did that. When do they do that?
- 1:08:31Right. OK, So what about the fourth
- 1:08:33down conversions that he was throwing terrible passes earlier
- 1:08:36in the game? Do those not count?
- 1:08:38You make mistakes. Only the one he completed
- 1:08:40counts. See, the only one he completed.
- 1:08:43That was the only one he completed.
- 1:08:45On 4th he there was several. Yeah, they had some misses on
- 1:08:494th down. Yes, obviously Ben Johnson's
- 1:08:51going to coach that way. He coaches like Dan Campbell.
- 1:08:53There were some. I'm not saying Caleb Williams
- 1:08:54had the most amazing game, but no like the Rams have a good
- 1:08:57defense so. When they needed to make a
- 1:08:59throw, he made the throw and I you could sit here and you can
- 1:09:02look. Boxed it.
- 1:09:03Absolute luck boxed it. Well, that's your opinion.
- 1:09:06I disagree with you. I think that obviously he had to
- 1:09:10know that Coke met, was there. There's no way he didn't know
- 1:09:13that he was there. There's no way.
- 1:09:15There's absolutely. Wearing the same jersey and he's
- 1:09:17got eyes. Come on.
- 1:09:18He knew he was there. Dude, the way he moved inside
- 1:09:22and out of that pocket and escaped from three big defensive
- 1:09:26lineman and get that ball off on the back foot was since.
- 1:09:29So a little fast guy outruns 3 fat dudes.
- 1:09:32A little fast guy. That's the thing you've ever.
- 1:09:34Not little, I mean A6263 quarterback is not small.
- 1:09:38He's like, he's probably like barely 6 feet.
- 1:09:40Probably two of those three guys were an interior rush.
- 1:09:43That's hard for quarterbacks. He's not 6.
- 1:09:45Feet. He's a rush.
- 1:09:46You know what that means? Speeding.
- 1:09:47They're £350. If you can't outrun someone to
- 1:09:50£350, you got it. You know damn well that these
- 1:09:54defensive lineman can run a 4546.
- 1:09:58They've done it before. So you can't sit here and tell
- 1:10:01me that they can't get at them and try to.
- 1:10:03Put them back in the league, can outrun them.
- 1:10:06I disagree. Matthew.
- 1:10:07Stafford, Ken. Matthew Stafford has a broken
- 1:10:11back and still can outrun them. You're out of your mind.
- 1:10:14You're out of your mind. I I love your play.
- 1:10:16Typical Jeff, ladies and gentlemen.
- 1:10:18He will attend. Matthew Stafford still in the
- 1:10:20playoffs because every time he throws A touchdown, they show
- 1:10:23Kelly Stafford and that's worth it.
- 1:10:25Typical. Typical.
- 1:10:28Why? Because he was with Georgia,
- 1:10:29too. The great Georgia quarterback,
- 1:10:32by the way, and great George? No, but have you seen Kelly
- 1:10:34Stafford? He throws A touchdown pass.
- 1:10:37They show Kelly Stafford. That's America winning America's
- 1:10:40back, baby. Leave it up to Jeff, ladies and
- 1:10:44gentlemen, giving us his take on Caleb Williams.
- 1:10:46Amazing and you're. Not giving enough credit to that
- 1:10:49New England defense, by the way. What are you talking about?
- 1:10:52I gave him a lot of credit. Were you?
- 1:10:53Are you listening to the day it? Was all CJ Shroud no defense is?
- 1:10:56Pretty I said their secondary was amazing.
- 1:10:59Jones was amazing. God was a secondary.
- 1:11:01That was amazing. It was their line.
- 1:11:03Oh dude, it was their secondary. Their safeties.
- 1:11:06Exactly. They hovered over every single
- 1:11:08wide receiver. Anything.
- 1:11:10Dude, they were unbelievable that secondary.
- 1:11:12Was amazing right? But go and look right But go and
- 1:11:14look at Woody Marks first half stats.
- 1:11:16Do you know what he rushed for in the first half?
- 1:11:18Dude. He he had eight carries for
- 1:11:21seven yards and one of of woody Marks and one of the
- 1:11:26interceptions Stroud through was because Palevan Chaison
- 1:11:29absolutely murders Stroud. Woody Marks we arguing about
- 1:11:35Woody Marx, is that where? We're not no, no, no.
- 1:11:38It's the fact that the Patriots have a top five rush number one
- 1:11:42run defense. Yeah, they.
- 1:11:43Don't. Nobody said that they don't, and
- 1:11:44nobody said that they weren't good.
- 1:11:46But when you can't run on a team, you have to pass.
- 1:11:48That's the whole thing. Yeah, to me, CJ Stroud could
- 1:11:52have passed against any defense. He was going to throw those
- 1:11:54interceptions. One hand washes the other in
- 1:11:56football, right? If you have an amazing pass
- 1:11:58rush, it makes the quarterback's jobs easier.
- 1:12:01And they were getting home. I mean, mostly because the
- 1:12:04Texans were playing with it. Ended up being a third Stringer
- 1:12:08at right tackle, right? Because they were without.
- 1:12:12Who were they without? I think it was Earth 3, their
- 1:12:15rookie. No Earth 3 was there, it was
- 1:12:17round their right tackle and when their backup got hurt and
- 1:12:21they had to go to a third Stringer.
- 1:12:24There is no issue. They were hurt.
- 1:12:26I don't care. To me, D'amico Ryan's to me
- 1:12:30should have done what I thought he should have done in the
- 1:12:32second-half is bringing Mills. See what you're what you're
- 1:12:35going to get at, what you're going to get out of Mills.
- 1:12:36You weren't getting enough out of Stroud.
- 1:12:38At least bring him in and see what you have.
- 1:12:40Maybe he makes one or two acrobatic passes, gets his team
- 1:12:44wounded up and maybe they they find a way to win the game or
- 1:12:48find a way they take this overtime and and and find a way
- 1:12:51to beat the Patriots in New England.
- 1:12:52I don't know. But the way D'amico Ryan's was
- 1:12:55calling the game and it really in the second-half has you to
- 1:12:58me, has me questioning if he's the right guy for the job.
- 1:13:02That's just my opinion. I mean, maybe not, but you can't
- 1:13:05bench CJ Stroud because they're going to end up signing him to
- 1:13:07an extension. Well, they're making a mistake.
- 1:13:09And not because they want it, but because they have.
- 1:13:11To yeah, I know they're making. A mistake, yeah.
- 1:13:12They're a bad quarterback franchise overall, so they got
- 1:13:15to get. Some, I mean it's not even just
- 1:13:16that, but like look around the league.
- 1:13:18How do you think Tua got a contract?
- 1:13:19When you look around the league, there's nobody else that can
- 1:13:22come in. It's why Justin Fields keeps
- 1:13:24getting jobs, because there's no quarterbacks out.
- 1:13:27There's why Russell Wilson kept getting a job.
- 1:13:29There's no one out there to come in and replace them.
- 1:13:31So if they're not going with CJ Stroud, what are they gonna go
- 1:13:34with? What are they gonna be The Jets
- 1:13:35and draft a quarterback every year?
- 1:13:37There he is, ladies and gentlemen.
- 1:13:38Jeff. Buddy, I'm a Jets guy.
- 1:13:41I'm a Jets guy. I'm tired of drafting quarter.
- 1:13:43Throw me a curveball, ladies and gentlemen.
- 1:13:45Let's talk about The Jets, baby. Let's talk about you and me.
- 1:13:50Buddy, I'm a Jets guy. You know, I'm a Jets guy, but
- 1:13:53it's like it's and we go through quarterbacks.
- 1:13:55Let's talk about all the good things and the bad things that
- 1:13:59they'll be. I mean, you can't, you can't do
- 1:14:04it otherwise. Like that's why he's probably
- 1:14:05going to get an extension instead.
- 1:14:07Like that, Speedy? Oh yeah, do.
- 1:14:10You do you just want to be the New Orleans Saints?
- 1:14:12Is that what they want to be? And they when they can't figure
- 1:14:14out quarterback. I I don't, no, I don't.
- 1:14:19But hey, as a, as a Jet fan or an Eagles guy or anybody you
- 1:14:24want to point or you want to play darts with, I could say
- 1:14:27this CJ Strout is not the answer.
- 1:14:30D'amico Ryan's has proven to me that when the going gets tough
- 1:14:34and you need to make a decision to make that decision, you make
- 1:14:37the right decision. You make the decision to say
- 1:14:40that this quarterback did not have it that day.
- 1:14:42You take him out, you show everybody that you're going to
- 1:14:46go and try to get that win and he didn't he.
- 1:14:49What happened to CJ Stroud? Rookie year?
- 1:14:51CJ Stroud was unstoppable. Yeah, well, I don't know what
- 1:14:54happened to him, but if the Grinch stole Christmas, CJ
- 1:14:58Stroud stole the Texans heart. This offseason, because they're
- 1:15:04going to be watching golf or playing golf and watching the
- 1:15:07Super Bowl and they're not going to be in it.
- 1:15:09That's for. Sure, they were never going to
- 1:15:10win anyways. Do you realize, like, think
- 1:15:12about this, right? Everyone gives like Denver love
- 1:15:14because Denver's a hard place to like, win.
- 1:15:16Go and win. Everyone gives Seattle love.
- 1:15:18Oh, it's so loud. When was the last time a road
- 1:15:21team won in New England? Oh, I got you, man.
- 1:15:25It's a tough. Place to play and win the Fraval
- 1:15:27got you. Jeff, we got to go.
- 1:15:30And that was like 5 years ago dude.
- 1:15:33Jeff. And before that, it was crazy.
- 1:15:35Jeff, we love you and you can call back whenever you want.
- 1:15:38I don't care what. No, no, no, no, no.
- 1:15:40I can't do that. This is because someone isn't
- 1:15:42there. Like that's what he said and I
- 1:15:44don't, I don't want to make that person.
- 1:15:45No, you can call when he's there too.
- 1:15:46We. Could call.
- 1:15:47When every if that person gets mad, I don't know what I'll do.
- 1:15:50You can call a big deal you. Can call when he's there too.
- 1:15:53We. Call whenever you want, we love.
- 1:15:54You know how much he told me not to.
- 1:15:56You can. We just told you you can, so we
- 1:15:59override. Can't go against him.
- 1:16:01Do you know how much of a big deal he is?
- 1:16:02Goodbye. Goodbye, Jeff.
- 1:16:04Thank you. Jeff.
- 1:16:06Thank you, Jeff. There it is.
- 1:16:08The Lord and savior of this show has reappeared from the depths
- 1:16:14of beyond Jeff from Tampa. That's a good way to play.
- 1:16:17Thank you. And, and Jabba was probably just
- 1:16:20sitting. There, no.
- 1:16:22We had the Jabba versus Snug YouTube battle.
- 1:16:24It was very entertaining. As well.
- 1:16:26I didn't get a chance to see that.
- 1:16:28There's some comments. Speaking of something that I got
- 1:16:30a chance to see Indiana and Miami, a national championship.
- 1:16:35Indiana beats Miami in the national championship game 27 to
- 1:16:3821 to finish off an undefeated season, a win win their first
- 1:16:43title in school history. Both teams started slow
- 1:16:46offensively until Indiana had 1414 play 85 yard touchdown
- 1:16:52drive in the second quarter to give them a 10 nothing lead.
- 1:16:56Mark Fletcher Junior had a 57 yard touchdown run to open up
- 1:17:02the second-half after Miami had just 61 yards in the entire
- 1:17:06first half. Indiana black the punt later in
- 1:17:09the third quarter and recovered it for a touchdown to extend
- 1:17:13their lead 17 to 7. After Miami responded to make it
- 1:17:1817 to 14, Fernando Mendoza got his only touchdown in the game,
- 1:17:23a 12 yard rushing touchdown on 1/4 down and 4th 4.
- 1:17:27Indiana converted to 4th downs on that drive.
- 1:17:32Miami responded to make it 2421 on a 22 yard touchdown pass from
- 1:17:39Carson Beck to Malachi Tony. After Indiana made it 2721 with
- 1:17:45a field goal, Miami had one more chance, but Carson Beck threw an
- 1:17:50interception and Indiana won their first National
- 1:17:54Championship. There's a lot of layers in this
- 1:17:57game. And here's the thing, I am a
- 1:18:01Mendoza fan. I love Fernando Mendoza, but
- 1:18:05throughout the playoffs, Fernando Mendoza was not good.
- 1:18:08I don't care what anybody says. He did not show me why he should
- 1:18:12be the number one pick in this year's draft.
- 1:18:15Now he will be and I love him and I know Jeff is not a big fan
- 1:18:19of him. And he said, Jeff told me
- 1:18:21straight out that there is not a quarterback that should be
- 1:18:24drafted at #1 in this class. He said that to me.
- 1:18:30And maybe he's right. And now that Dante Moore has
- 1:18:33gone back to college, he will be the only quarterback drafted in
- 1:18:36the top ten this year. The the, the one thing that
- 1:18:40shined for Mendoza in this game was that fourth and four in the
- 1:18:45fourth quarter. It was a gutsy call.
- 1:18:49A gutsy call. You see, you see his forearm
- 1:18:52after the game. Yes, it it to me.
- 1:18:56The dude's toughest nails. Signetti made gutsy call after
- 1:19:02gutsy call throughout the game. He really did.
- 1:19:06And you got to give Signetti a lot of credit because he has
- 1:19:08been the best coach in the NCAA for back-to-back years.
- 1:19:12He goes over there to Indiana in his first year and goes to a
- 1:19:15national championship undefeated on guys that were in the portal.
- 1:19:20Think about that. Five star recruits?
- 1:19:24Not really. Mendoza wasn't even his recruit.
- 1:19:27He came from Cal. Think about that and you watch
- 1:19:32this game and Miami did what they were supposed to do.
- 1:19:36Bain was all over the play. Mazda door was all over the
- 1:19:39place. They were doing everything that
- 1:19:41they needed to do to keep the game close.
- 1:19:44That's what they did. The secondary Lucas was great.
- 1:19:49To me. Miami did what they needed to
- 1:19:51do. They did more in this game that
- 1:19:54Oregon and everybody else did against this Indiana Hoosier
- 1:19:58team that was just absolutely dominant throughout this playoff
- 1:20:02run, throughout the season in so many aspects.
- 1:20:07But here's the thing. Carson Beck has made enough
- 1:20:11mistakes. Over the years, Carson Beck's
- 1:20:14was Carson Beck was supposed to walk away from football.
- 1:20:17He was thinking about walking away from football before he
- 1:20:19decided to go to Miami. Miami took a chance with him.
- 1:20:24They snuck into this playoff, they made a lot of noise.
- 1:20:29They knocked off the Ohio State Buckeyes.
- 1:20:33They beat the national champion last year and to me, a lot of
- 1:20:39people's pick to win everything this year.
- 1:20:42And what made it so sensational to watch all season long was
- 1:20:47Miami getting better and better. The coach and I, I pronounce his
- 1:20:51name. Cristobal.
- 1:20:52Cristobal who who was sensational all all season long
- 1:20:56and even at the end of the game, you got to give Crystal Ball a
- 1:20:59little bit more credit because he gave a shout out to Indiana.
- 1:21:04He gave a shout out to the Miami Hoosier.
- 1:21:06I mean, Indiana, who's your fans and how they showed up in Miami?
- 1:21:10As loud as they were, this was Miami.
- 1:21:12They had a home game. Think about that.
- 1:21:18Nobody expected Miami to be in this championship game, but they
- 1:21:21played in their home field. Think about it.
- 1:21:26And to go out there, the Hoosier showing up, the fan showing up
- 1:21:29as much as they did and the way they just caused so much havoc.
- 1:21:34You or you saw Carson Beck when he was at the line of scrimmage
- 1:21:37trying to hold his ear because he couldn't hear anything says a
- 1:21:42lot about the Indiana Hoosier fans.
- 1:21:45So I I mean, the game was fun to watch.
- 1:21:48This was a great championship game and and, and all you wanted
- 1:21:53to see was Miami get a chance to win because Miami had a chance
- 1:21:56to win this game. They did you.
- 1:21:59Got to admit first half was all slow.
- 1:22:00Yeah, it was. It was boring it.
- 1:22:02Was really the first quarter. I think it got good after that.
- 1:22:04It was. Boring 10 Nothing You thought
- 1:22:07this was going to be a blow out after the first half.
- 1:22:09You thought that? How big do you think that Doink
- 1:22:12kicked when he hit the upright to end the end the first half it
- 1:22:17it hurt them having no points on the.
- 1:22:19Board it hurt, but you can't make that excuse now because
- 1:22:23they still won by 6. No, I'm not saying at.
- 1:22:25Least you have. Points on the board going into
- 1:22:26the. Half now, let's say if they lost
- 1:22:2824 to 21 and then then you're going to look at that kick and
- 1:22:32you're going to be like, oh, you know, if he hit that, the game
- 1:22:37could have been different. But it was just the battle of
- 1:22:42the coaches and I, I got it. Like I said, Signetti has had
- 1:22:46such a great season. This guy deserves a lot of
- 1:22:49credit. If the Raiders want to reach out
- 1:22:51to him, if they think they're bringing Mendoza in and they can
- 1:22:54try to pry or ply or whatever word you want to use to take him
- 1:22:59away from Indiana and Hoosier Nation, to bring him to Las
- 1:23:03Vegas to coach his quarterback, that would be an absolute slam
- 1:23:07dunk. Give him whatever he wants.
- 1:23:09Cignetti did what he needed to do.
- 1:23:11This was one of the greatest runs we've ever seen a football
- 1:23:14team have. Think about this.
- 1:23:16They were undefeated with to me when the playoffs was never like
- 1:23:20this. Think about this, they won a
- 1:23:23national championship. Going through how many teams
- 1:23:26think about it, this is might be one of the greatest playoff runs
- 1:23:30we will ever see in history. The way the Indiana Hoosiers
- 1:23:35played in this game. And I you got to give just a lot
- 1:23:38of credit to just Mendoza when he needed to make the play, he
- 1:23:42made the play. I mean, that play was
- 1:23:43unbelievable. I mean, to escape, to go inside
- 1:23:46and out of the pocket and, and get hit the way he did and, and
- 1:23:50to make that spinning move to get to the end zone was amazing.
- 1:23:53His mom cheering his mom, I I don't remember what she has Ms.,
- 1:24:00multiple sclerosis and and to see her.
- 1:24:03She's got it since she's been 18.
- 1:24:04Yeah, yeah. They've raised a lot of the NIL
- 1:24:07funding and there's another foundation that's like I think
- 1:24:107.27 hundred $20,000 or something they've raised for.
- 1:24:13That it was just, and to see his father and his mother and even
- 1:24:17on his brother, his brother on the sidelines tutoring and it's
- 1:24:20it's fun to watch. And Mendoza, you know, he's a
- 1:24:23Cuban American Christian who went out there after the game
- 1:24:26and it when everybody thinks God but, and I don't know if I'm not
- 1:24:30saying that those guys don't mean it, but you know,
- 1:24:33sincerely, this man absolutely means it.
- 1:24:36He feels it. And it's just an amazing story
- 1:24:41guy. This If you're there's a season
- 1:24:43that you want to have or you want to remember as a player, to
- 1:24:46win a Heisman Trophy, to win a national championship, to do it
- 1:24:49the way they did it on an undefeated year, I think this
- 1:24:52was the ultimate like greatest season a player could ever have
- 1:24:56Speedy. Yeah, it's the combination of
- 1:24:58everything that works and you talked about with the way that
- 1:25:01Mendoza behaved at the Heisman, he knew he was stole that team.
- 1:25:04First, I was there. I stole everything you were.
- 1:25:05Mentioning how such of a team first guy he was and I think he
- 1:25:08accepted his role. We talked about in the during
- 1:25:10the NFL playoffs with CJ Stroud, with the Texans, Patriots.
- 1:25:13I don't know if he knew how to accept his role when he had such
- 1:25:15a flashy rookie year and now all of a sudden he has big game
- 1:25:18managing quarterback. I think Mendoza knew he had to
- 1:25:20be a game managing quarterback because of the way this Miami
- 1:25:22pass force was doing now. I think Indiana's offensive line
- 1:25:24held their own better than I thought.
- 1:25:25Secondary was great and for for Miami too.
- 1:25:28Yes. Miami secondary, I think, made a
- 1:25:30lot of interesting coverage disguises.
- 1:25:32They had to do a lot of contested catches in the first
- 1:25:34half of that game and even in the third quarter, Indiana's
- 1:25:36receivers held their own and I think won some of those battles.
- 1:25:39But it wasn't enough where you were saying, all right, this guy
- 1:25:41is a lot of spacing like you saw in the Oregon game, a lot of
- 1:25:44spacing like you saw at points during the Alabama game, and
- 1:25:47they were getting all those yards for the catch.
- 1:25:48It was really the Indiana running game that was doing a
- 1:25:50lot in the Indiana and a defense on the special teams with the
- 1:25:53block punt doing a lot of it. And Miami, there were points.
- 1:25:56I thought they were out playing them because Tony was getting a
- 1:25:59lot of space, they were getting yards after the catch, they were
- 1:26:01extending drives. They just stalled a lot of the
- 1:26:03time at midfield. In the beginning.
- 1:26:04The missed field goal hurt Job. I think he's missed 4 kicks
- 1:26:07already this tournament, which hasn't helped in Miami special
- 1:26:10teams department. But there were points of it
- 1:26:12where they just had to do enough and they just never could finish
- 1:26:16drives in the red zone. And that was, I think.
- 1:26:17What a Jagger that block punt was too.
- 1:26:20That was a dagger. I mean, think about that.
- 1:26:23If they didn't block that punt and it wasn't a touchdown, Miami
- 1:26:26wins the game. Yeah, Miami wins the game.
- 1:26:28Right, because you're looking at a defensive duel in the
- 1:26:30second-half the way that that turned around.
- 1:26:32But now Indiana's back up by 10. It changes a lot with Miami's
- 1:26:35playbook. Mark Fletcher was getting it
- 1:26:36going with the running game standpoint, but now you can't
- 1:26:39run the ball as much down 10. And Tony did everything he could
- 1:26:42pretty much will his team back. But Indiana's offense just
- 1:26:45getting too much time of possession.
- 1:26:47And I think Steve White was talking about it last week with
- 1:26:49the NFL, how much time of possession that certain teams
- 1:26:51have had in the playoffs. Indiana's time possession, even
- 1:26:54though those drives they didn't score, were a big difference in
- 1:26:56why Miami could never get comfortable with their offensive
- 1:26:58game plan either. Yeah, no, I mean, for me it was,
- 1:27:02you see the first half and what Carson Beck obviously being in
- 1:27:04position, Mendoza having the year that he's had, I mean, he
- 1:27:08only had 100 and what, 16 yards in the first half.
- 1:27:10Carson Beck had like 86, right. But I think when when you put it
- 1:27:15together, we always talked about being in that experience and and
- 1:27:19understanding what it takes to win.
- 1:27:21It became a tale of two halves and that at one point they were
- 1:27:25both equal in yards in a second or total yards at 318.
- 1:27:29And so they were kind of in that same realm.
- 1:27:33But then I think just Mendoza's composure and just how much more
- 1:27:38elite he is as a quarterback. And I'm just going to say it
- 1:27:43like how big his balls are. And it showed in the way he did
- 1:27:48things. And, you know, when he carries
- 1:27:52himself in a way that people now are sometimes questioning, is he
- 1:27:56too nice? Well, I don't know if there's a
- 1:27:59thing that's too nice. Obviously you have to have a
- 1:28:02chip on your shoulder. And obviously he has that chip
- 1:28:05because he wouldn't be that. But he's also surrounded by
- 1:28:07great players and great coaches. But just the way that he
- 1:28:12constructed and how he did. Like if you heard the interview
- 1:28:16after the game, like he he could have checked that off to a pass
- 1:28:22and he said it and he literally just was like, hey, we're going
- 1:28:27to go for it. And he goes the offensive
- 1:28:29lineman and being selfless, like there are times you have to give
- 1:28:33yourself a little bit of credit. Like obviously you didn't get to
- 1:28:36that position without your offensive line and all those
- 1:28:38guys. But like he did a little bit if
- 1:28:42you read between the lines, because he was like, yeah, I
- 1:28:45could have checked off. I could have done this.
- 1:28:46This was this was the option of what it was.
- 1:28:48And he goes, I looked at it and said, hell, here we go.
- 1:28:53One of one of his one of the best offensive lineman's in the
- 1:28:56country on on Indiana at the end of the game if he didn't make
- 1:29:00that penalty, if he didn't step off.
- 1:29:02Yeah, they don't get a chance. He's literally one of the best
- 1:29:05offensive lineman and gets the roughing the passer #97 I don't
- 1:29:09remember his name, but yeah, it doesn't even give them a chance
- 1:29:13to do. But that second, I've made it so
- 1:29:15fun because it was literally talking to everybody.
- 1:29:18They were like, and I don't know if you guys felt this way.
- 1:29:21And then people you talk to, they were like, it's either
- 1:29:23going to be a boat race or it's going to be really close.
- 1:29:26And after the first half, I didn't know what to think at
- 1:29:30that point. I was like, are they going to
- 1:29:32come out? And then obviously Miami comes
- 1:29:33out, scores quick, then Indiana scores and they come back with a
- 1:29:3791 yard drive with like in I think it took 2.
- 1:29:40Minutes that was. That was both teams.
- 1:29:42They were all methodical drive so they scored on besides
- 1:29:44Fletcher's big play. Yeah, so it was after the first
- 1:29:49half I just, I kind of was just shaking my head and I'm like,
- 1:29:53well, I guess we'll see what happens to make adjustments.
- 1:29:56And. And then I, I felt the
- 1:29:59second-half was going to be the way the whole game was going to
- 1:30:01be. Personally, that's the way I
- 1:30:03felt. And, but that second-half was,
- 1:30:06was absolutely incredible. And it was so fun to see guys
- 1:30:10making plays all over the field and just a really good.
- 1:30:13I, I didn't like what Fletcher did after the game, think that
- 1:30:16was unwarranted and not needed. And it kind of took away from
- 1:30:19the celebration a little bit, But that's neither here nor
- 1:30:21there. But I, I, I think it lived up to
- 1:30:24the hype. And you know, hats off to to
- 1:30:27those guys and and Indiana Hoosiers.
- 1:30:29And are they are they a basketball score?
- 1:30:32Are they a football school? Now that's a question.
- 1:30:34Yeah, well, Mike Woodson's coaching there now, so we'll see
- 1:30:37if they can get their basketball program going.
- 1:30:39But I before we move on, I just want to mention Carl in the
- 1:30:41comments section to Miami outgaining Indiana.
- 1:30:43I need a little more air yards for Carson Beck on that last
- 1:30:45throw. And yeah, that would that's
- 1:30:46always been his flaws. Never been a big arm guy but
- 1:30:49just needed to do a little more there.
- 1:30:50All right, all the Giant fans couldn't wait for this segment
- 1:30:54and I'm going to give you my take now.
- 1:30:56Adam Schefner reports that the Giants have hired John Harbaugh
- 1:30:59to be their next head coach. Schefner added that the Giants
- 1:31:03will pay John Harbaugh A5 year $100 million deal, trying him or
- 1:31:08tying him with Andy Reed for the largest deal in NFL history
- 1:31:13really as a head coach in the league.
- 1:31:15The Athletic reports that Joe Shane will stay as the Giants
- 1:31:18general manager, but Harbaugh will have a lot of say in the
- 1:31:22offseason decisions and both guys will have to report to the
- 1:31:26owner. Who does this sound like, ladies
- 1:31:28and gentlemen? ESPN Jordan Rodham reports that
- 1:31:33Harbaugh believed that the Giants were in a better position
- 1:31:37than the Falcons and the Titans, the only other two teams that
- 1:31:42interviewed him. ESPN reports that the Giants
- 1:31:45interviewed 8 other coaches, including Kevin Stefanski, Vance
- 1:31:48Joseph and Mike McCarthy. The Ravens offensive
- 1:31:52coordinator, Todd Monken, is expected to follow Harbaugh to
- 1:31:58New York as long as he doesn't get a head coaching job
- 1:32:03elsewhere. Harbaugh was hired about a week
- 1:32:07after being fired by the Ravens after an 889 season.
- 1:32:13I'm sorry. Which is still more wins than
- 1:32:16the Giants have had in the last two seasons who have gone 7 and
- 1:32:2127. Well here's my take for all you
- 1:32:26Giant fans out there that are probably going to hate me after
- 1:32:29this. I love John Horrible, I think
- 1:32:34he's a great coach, but there's no way in hell he believes that
- 1:32:39the Giants have more talent and has a better roster than the
- 1:32:44Atlanta Falcons. For him to sell that to anybody
- 1:32:49tells me how stupid he really believes New York fans or Titan
- 1:32:54or Atlanta fans believe he thinks they are.
- 1:32:59I do not believe at any point whatsoever John Horrible had any
- 1:33:05interest to going to the Atlanta Falcons or the Titans.
- 1:33:08It was always the New York Giants.
- 1:33:09Or sit out for the season and wait until he sees what's out
- 1:33:13there next year. He only took this New York
- 1:33:15Giants job because the Giants were willing to pay him.
- 1:33:19Think about this. He is $100 million richer.
- 1:33:22It's guaranteed. Jon Gruden got $100 million
- 1:33:26guarantee contract. And boy, oh boy, he's singing to
- 1:33:28the the league, ladies and gentlemen, he's going because
- 1:33:32he's making himself a lot of extra money after he sued the
- 1:33:36NFL. But here's the facts, guys.
- 1:33:40The Giants don't know what they're going to be doing with
- 1:33:43Dexter Lawrence in the off season because they have no
- 1:33:45money. They're $11 million rich to go
- 1:33:49out there for free agents this year.
- 1:33:53They don't have a lot of draft stock.
- 1:33:54They don't have The Jets draft stock.
- 1:33:56The Atlanta Falcons lost a lot of draft stock because they made
- 1:33:59that move. But look at the talent that they
- 1:34:01have on the defensive line. Now I'm going.
- 1:34:03To say it's their best pass rush they've ever had, that's.
- 1:34:05That's I'm just saying think about that.
- 1:34:08To go out there and think that the Giants have more talent, Why
- 1:34:11Jackson Dart? What has Jackson Dart done so
- 1:34:14far? Please tell me sell it to me
- 1:34:17Giant fans. He look good.
- 1:34:20I like Jackson. He could be a great quarterback.
- 1:34:23Let me ask you guys a question. John Harbaugh is a great coach.
- 1:34:28We all know the greats that he coached.
- 1:34:30Ed Reed, was he his guy? Speedy, was he his guy?
- 1:34:34Suggs was his guy, his guy. Ray Lewis, was he his guy.
- 1:34:38But they won a Super Bowl. Joe Flacco, was he his guy?
- 1:34:40Yes. John Harbaugh does to me.
- 1:34:43Lamar Jackson didn't want him there and that's why he is
- 1:34:45swimming and he was looking for a new job.
- 1:34:47His guy that he developed didn't want him there.
- 1:34:51And if you look at the teams that he has developed over the
- 1:34:53years, have they won a Super Bowl besides the one that was
- 1:34:57really put together before he was there?
- 1:34:59The answer would be no, No. So who's he developed, what team
- 1:35:06and what players besides Lamar Jackson and quote UN quote, Joe
- 1:35:10Flacco, who is not a Hall of Famer?
- 1:35:15Tell me. The answer would be nobody.
- 1:35:18So the Giants reached they could have hired Kevin Stefanski, Mike
- 1:35:23McCarthy, guys that I believe are a better fit as far as I'm
- 1:35:28concerned when it comes to the quarterback in Jackson Dart, if
- 1:35:31you want to develop him. And to think, and I'm I'm not a
- 1:35:34Kevin Stefanski fan when it comes to developing quarterbacks
- 1:35:36because he couldn't do it over there and with the Browns, but
- 1:35:38at least he won coach of the year twice.
- 1:35:41Mike McCarthy was the guy. He was the guy.
- 1:35:44He developed Aaron Rodgers, he developed Dak Prescott.
- 1:35:49Say whatever you want. You want to make jokes.
- 1:35:51He did. And maybe he doesn't interview
- 1:35:55very well because Mike McCarthy still not hired by anybody.
- 1:35:59Todd Munkin and I got news for you guys.
- 1:36:02Lamar Jackson did not like, he did not want to be coached by
- 1:36:05Monken. So you Giant fans better hope
- 1:36:08that Jackson, Lawrence Jackson Dart likes Todd Monken because
- 1:36:14Lamar Jackson didn't. And I, I, I got to give him a
- 1:36:17little bit of credit. John Harbaugh is a great
- 1:36:19personality. He'll be great for the players.
- 1:36:22I I don't know if he's a developmental coach and I know
- 1:36:25Giant fans are going to attack me on this And and I know Giant
- 1:36:28fans believe that he'll make them a competent team this year,
- 1:36:32even though they're going into a season with very lean of money
- 1:36:35and they're going to have to move one of these guys including
- 1:36:38and one of those guys might be Dexter Lawrence.
- 1:36:40How is that going to work when you're losing a guy that was
- 1:36:43injured all season long and he's your best defensive player?
- 1:36:47In my eyes, I know what Burns did this year, but he's not next
- 1:36:51to Lawrence. Let's be honest.
- 1:36:54I just and I don't trust Joe Shane and I don't trust John
- 1:36:58Marra. And by the fact that you're
- 1:37:00hearing that they have to go to ownership, they it reminds me of
- 1:37:03Woody Johnson that when did have you ever heard AGM and a coach
- 1:37:09have to go and speak to the Giants brass?
- 1:37:12Never. I've never heard this.
- 1:37:14Tom Coughlin never had to go and speak to John Marra.
- 1:37:18Never. Bill Parcells never had to do
- 1:37:21that. Think about that.
- 1:37:23What it tells me right now is they're transitioning into the
- 1:37:28teams in the organizations that have failed to do the right
- 1:37:31thing for their organization. And that, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:37:34is guys and team. I'm sorry, guys like Woody
- 1:37:37Johnson and the New York Football Jets.
- 1:37:40So we go back and we talk about John Horrible and his
- 1:37:44announcement in his press conference today.
- 1:37:47John is a likable person. You got to like him and he he
- 1:37:50speaks very well about the New York Giants organization and
- 1:37:52that this was the team. And I, I'm going to, I'm going
- 1:37:55to be as graceful and, and happy to be here just as much as I was
- 1:37:59with the Ravens. This is a one of the the top
- 1:38:02organizations in the NFL and all this lovely, great things that
- 1:38:06you heard John Mayer, John Harble say and, and John Mayer
- 1:38:09say about John Harble at the press conference.
- 1:38:13Here's the facts. John Horrible has not won
- 1:38:17anything since that Super Bowl. He failed to beat the Kansas
- 1:38:23City Chiefs. Year of.
- 1:38:25What was it 3 years ago, Two years ago in the AFC title game,
- 1:38:30AFC title game, when you were the better team, you were by far
- 1:38:35the better team than the Kansas City Chiefs.
- 1:38:39It was a failure and John, you're the reason why they
- 1:38:42failed. Your defensive coach in
- 1:38:46McDonald, he goes over there to Baltimore.
- 1:38:48Your defense was one of the worst defenses in the NFL this
- 1:38:52year. Why John?
- 1:38:54Why do you? Think nobody wanted you there
- 1:38:55anymore? Because guess what?
- 1:38:59Your coaches are gone now you're reaching.
- 1:39:02You're trying to find guys from the, you know, the, the escape
- 1:39:05route. I'm trying to find somebody
- 1:39:07that's going to fit in as a Baltimore Ravens defensive
- 1:39:10minded coach. But by the way, your defensive
- 1:39:13coordinator there sucked and you suck.
- 1:39:16So giant fans. You can attack me on my take.
- 1:39:20You can attack me till I'm blue in the face.
- 1:39:23This was a bad hire and the only reason why is Joe Shane's there.
- 1:39:27If Joe Shane goes, you're going to have John Harbaugh choose his
- 1:39:31GM. Well, how does that work?
- 1:39:33When have you heard your coach ever pick the GM?
- 1:39:38Sweetie, could you tell me the last time you can remember a
- 1:39:41head coach pick his GM? I'm going to tell you.
- 1:39:43I believe it's your boy, Kyle. Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan and how
- 1:39:46many Super Bowls have they won? 0.
- 1:39:49Zero. That's right, ladies and
- 1:39:52gentlemen, I'm not striking. I'm hitting home runs.
- 1:39:57And here's the home run for you giant fans when you hear any.
- 1:40:03Of the thoughts of your coach coming out there and saying that
- 1:40:07this is a better roster than the Atlanta Falcons only tells you
- 1:40:11what you know. And we know about your head
- 1:40:14coach. He is dumb.
- 1:40:16Absolutely dumb. Yeah, I don't know where you're
- 1:40:20seeing they have more talent on the Atlanta Falcons, maybe
- 1:40:23besides the front 7. And that's even close because
- 1:40:26Atlanta pass rush, like we said, even though they traded up a lot
- 1:40:29to get that second, second first round pick, that pass rush duo
- 1:40:33for the Atlanta Falcons did very well.
- 1:40:34And their interior has been pretty good all year.
- 1:40:37And their secondary is a lot better than the Giants.
- 1:40:39And this is the same Joe Shane that spent a lot in the
- 1:40:41secondary this offseason and it didn't amount to much of
- 1:40:43anything. Their run defense was
- 1:40:45historically bad. They were second worst in the
- 1:40:47NFL this year, even with Lawrence having.
- 1:40:49Go ask. Go ask Joe Shane who his number
- 1:40:52one pick was in his first draft. How good is he?
- 1:40:55Yeah, your corner who everybody says is the worst corner in NFL
- 1:40:59history. Oh yeah.
- 1:41:00Well, that's not ideal. And then he also.
- 1:41:02That's Joe Shane, ladies and gentlemen, combined attack with
- 1:41:06the one and only guy you call your head coach now, John
- 1:41:09Horrible, who is $100 million richer.
- 1:41:13And then you also have to deal with a lot of these other guys
- 1:41:15that while they have produced at times are still inconsistent.
- 1:41:18You have a complete bust with Evan Neal, who doesn't even
- 1:41:21start even this season when the Giants off.
- 1:41:23No, the Joe Shane guy. Yep, that was his first draft.
- 1:41:25Yvonne Thibodeau. Is a mystery because you have
- 1:41:29$11 million of salary cap. You have Abdul Carter there now
- 1:41:32as a second guy on a rookie contract to go along with Burns.
- 1:41:35Like, do you pay him? Do you trust anything to pay
- 1:41:37him? At this point, he probably seems
- 1:41:39like the most reasonable trade value casualty because you game
- 1:41:43the fifth year option. But again, going back to what
- 1:41:46you're inheriting, you're inheriting Joe Shane's team with
- 1:41:48Joe Shane now trying to make more decisions to try to make
- 1:41:50this roster better. And it's just a not an ideal
- 1:41:52thing. And John Harbaugh, obviously
- 1:41:54what worked under Ozzie Newsome was one of the best GMs this era
- 1:41:57that we've seen develop great talent with the Ravens.
- 1:42:00But like you said, the Ravens core since I think he had to
- 1:42:03restart it after that Super Bowl hasn't been the same as much.
- 1:42:07They had some good defensive players.
- 1:42:08Marlin Humphrey I would say was good.
- 1:42:09CJ Mosley when he was there was good.
- 1:42:11They've had some good ones, but not enough where there's enough
- 1:42:13consistency on key positions. Corner depth, edge rushers has
- 1:42:17always been a big problem for the Ravens, and receivers
- 1:42:20especially has been a big problem for the Ravens.
- 1:42:22Guess what's the risk problem for the Giants besides the leak
- 1:42:24neighbors who's not 100% healthy wide receivers.
- 1:42:27Yeah, good luck trying to find that, Joe Shane, because you
- 1:42:29haven't done it all that time. Now you bring in John Harbaugh
- 1:42:31coming in from the Ravens disciple.
- 1:42:33Have that work too. And you have neighbors coming
- 1:42:35back from a big injury. You don't know what you're going
- 1:42:37to get out of. Here, Robinson, come on now.
- 1:42:39Who had finally a Goodyear? They're not going to be able to
- 1:42:41signify that top ten in catches. I mean and and looks to me he's
- 1:42:48the blanket for your guy Jackson Dart and now.
- 1:42:51He's going to go to free. Agency, he's going to get a lot
- 1:42:53of money. He'll probably, he'll probably
- 1:42:54go to the Chiefs and be like in a Pro Bowler over there or
- 1:42:57something. He's going to get a lot of money
- 1:42:58in the offseason. And the Giants don't have the
- 1:43:00money to pay him. So where does Jackson Dart go?
- 1:43:02Next year. And why does any giant fan
- 1:43:04believe that this move is going to make them not much better?
- 1:43:07Yeah, they're you can't expect anything to be an instant
- 1:43:10success by any means. Now when I posted your article.
- 1:43:13You could check out Eric Errol's article on John Harbaugh on the
- 1:43:14Worldwide Sports Radio Network. When I posted it on I Love it
- 1:43:1720,000 fans. Yes, on our on our Reddit board,
- 1:43:20there were a lot of Giants fans that were being realistic,
- 1:43:22saying. 6-7 win season. Probably is all we're going to
- 1:43:24expect that FM, but there are others that had those
- 1:43:27expectations that it's high. You can't expect it to be a
- 1:43:29quick fix overnight. This is a guy that is a veteran
- 1:43:32head coach. Yeah, he had a great first year
- 1:43:35with the Ravens. He went to the AFC championship
- 1:43:36game with Flacco. But again, those types of years
- 1:43:39don't happen all the time, and you can't expect it to happen
- 1:43:42instantly in just one year of a turn around.
- 1:43:44He's no Tom Coughlin, right? He's no Bill Parcells.
- 1:43:49Yeah. And I was going to say, the
- 1:43:51Giants roster is not anywhere close to where that Ravens
- 1:43:54roster. Was at the time they had one bad
- 1:43:56year, their team got a little old fine.
- 1:43:58The Giants team is I guess on the younger side, but they're
- 1:44:01not super young either with a ton of upside where you could
- 1:44:04expect it to be turned around right away in a division that's
- 1:44:06pretty tough. Eagles, Cowboys.
- 1:44:08Cowboys should get better this offseason with the draft stock
- 1:44:10they have in Washington. They're not going to be as as
- 1:44:12they were like this year, like they were unlucky.
- 1:44:14You can't sell me. You can't sell me when when you
- 1:44:17hear your your coach come out and.
- 1:44:19Say that this is the best roster, this is the best team
- 1:44:23out of the teams that he was interviewing with.
- 1:44:24Maybe they're better than the Titans.
- 1:44:26You can argue better than the Titans.
- 1:44:28You can argue that. You can argue that like we were
- 1:44:31ranking it last week. I was definitely saying Atlanta
- 1:44:33was the one. Now we know the Bills.
- 1:44:35Are open. The bills are probably #1 now
- 1:44:37the Ravens and the Steelers are both better.
- 1:44:39Obviously, I, I was on the fence of even thinking Arizona was
- 1:44:43just as good as the Giants, right?
- 1:44:44Right now the Giants are probably more upside.
- 1:44:46But again, you can't expect a quick fix right now with, with
- 1:44:49John Harbaugh. Is it a good move?
- 1:44:51Maybe. But again, I agree with you.
- 1:44:52I would rather have a McCarthy. It's a stabilizer.
- 1:44:55Maybe the Giants do need A and you got and you got guys like
- 1:44:58Fish coming out and I love you Fish and I I I.
- 1:45:01Had my take on Fish. If you read the story, you'll
- 1:45:03probably laugh. And Fish didn't like some of the
- 1:45:06takes that I shot at him by the hip.
- 1:45:08And that's what I do. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm not
- 1:45:10going to beat around the Bush. I love Fish.
- 1:45:12Fish is my guy. But I'm not going to beat around
- 1:45:14the Bush. I'm going to come out and I'm
- 1:45:16going to come out strong. If you're a Giant fan and you're
- 1:45:18going to sit here and you're going to try to sell me this and
- 1:45:20you're going to try to argue with me about all John
- 1:45:23Horrible's going to make a difference.
- 1:45:24But then you don't know football.
- 1:45:26You don't know football. Because the fact here is John
- 1:45:30Horrible had the best quarterback in the NFL on his
- 1:45:34roster. Has he won anything with him?
- 1:45:36No, really. And it was he going to win
- 1:45:39anything? No.
- 1:45:40And that's why Lamar Jackson didn't want him there anymore.
- 1:45:43Lamar said I had enough with John.
- 1:45:45I want somebody else in there, a younger voice, a better voice
- 1:45:49and a voice that's going to help me get over the hump because God
- 1:45:52knows John Harbaugh wasn't. And that is a fact.
- 1:45:56And by the way, you Baltimore Raven fans out there, don't cry.
- 1:46:00Don't cry because you still have an elite quarterback.
- 1:46:03And if there's anybody that I trust in an organization that's
- 1:46:08going to find the right guy, Ozzie Newsome is still there.
- 1:46:11He's still working with the organization.
- 1:46:13He's still there. If there's anybody that's going
- 1:46:16to choose the right guy, that's going to put them in the right
- 1:46:18position to succeed, it's Ozzie Newsome.
- 1:46:21And thank God it wasn't Robert Solo.
- 1:46:23Yeah, that doesn't Bola with that one.
- 1:46:24But before you go Job, I just want to mention this, too.
- 1:46:26Like I'd rather have. Harbaugh than a lot of these
- 1:46:29flashy rookie coaches, Kubiak or any one of those guys that would
- 1:46:33have been available. Because again, I don't think the
- 1:46:34Giants are one coach away. I don't think, I don't think you
- 1:46:37can expect a transformation like you saw with Houston their
- 1:46:40rookie year or Washington the the previous year.
- 1:46:44Like those kind of things just don't happen overnight.
- 1:46:46So I'm fine with the culture stabilizer guy for that kind of
- 1:46:48thing. But again, to expect John
- 1:46:50Harbaugh to put them in or any coach don't really put them as
- 1:46:52an instant contender is something that's could be
- 1:46:55questioned. Now, I'm fine with the money.
- 1:46:56I mentioned it last year with Ben Johnson.
- 1:46:57The Bears had to take a big swing for Ben Johnson, even have
- 1:47:00to pay him more. And look how it's turned out for
- 1:47:01them. But the Bears have a lot more
- 1:47:03talent than the Giants do, too. A lot more.
- 1:47:04Yeah. And it was just being wasted by
- 1:47:07even worse coaching and a lot more money.
- 1:47:08Brian. David, a lot more draft stock.
- 1:47:11Brian Dabel looks like a a genius compared to bad Everflu
- 1:47:14spot. Nevertheless, Todd Monkey, if he
- 1:47:16does go over there, hopefully we get the Tampa version of him.
- 1:47:19That was a little more pass happy for Jackson dart to
- 1:47:21develop and not the run heavy type kind of hybrid that you saw
- 1:47:25with Lamar Jackson, because that kind of system is not going to
- 1:47:26work with Dart otherwise. He's running the ground.
- 1:47:30No, I, I wanted to switch gears a little bit and and you kind of
- 1:47:33touched on it with the Ben Johnson.
- 1:47:34Thing. I I find it very interesting
- 1:47:37and, and these contracts that these coaches are getting,
- 1:47:40coaches don't count against the cap.
- 1:47:42So that's why I'm OK with the deal.
- 1:47:44OK, so that for me it's. Like trying to understand
- 1:47:46because obviously players, we go against players.
- 1:47:49And contracts and how we see it and obviously that doesn't go
- 1:47:52against the cap, but do do is there any like system that they
- 1:47:58use as far? As what it is Or is it?
- 1:48:00Just like, no, it's just the owner.
- 1:48:01It's just. The ownership has to pay.
- 1:48:03But they're fine with paying it. The Raiders are still paying Jon
- 1:48:05Gruden, I wrote. That up earlier, yes, I did.
- 1:48:08But it's just, it's fascinating to me, like learning.
- 1:48:12A lot from. You guys and where my brain
- 1:48:14kicks in and I'm like, OK, well, coach wise it's like now he's
- 1:48:19always paid like does is there ramifications from other sides?
- 1:48:23Because we've obviously seen with Sean Payton and people can
- 1:48:26trade for Tomlin because they still have his rights for
- 1:48:28another year. And we've seen obviously Sean
- 1:48:29Payton when he went to the Broncos with with draft picks
- 1:48:32and stuff like that is do do they release the description of
- 1:48:37their contract or is it just they don't have to?
- 1:48:40Again, it's they're under. The difference with that is
- 1:48:42they're under the team control with with.
- 1:48:44The Saints, the Saints got a first round pick.
- 1:48:46They drafted Brian Bracy was a good defensive tackle with that
- 1:48:48pick. In this case, with the, in the
- 1:48:50case with the Raiders, it was a whole because it was a
- 1:48:52resignation, it was a whole buyout thing.
- 1:48:54And I would imagine it's the same kind of thing.
- 1:48:56If it doesn't work out with the Giants and Mike Tomley got
- 1:48:58himself a lot of money from wherever he's going to be work.
- 1:49:00I think he's working for Fox. Now he he could sit out for a
- 1:49:04couple of years if he wants. I don't think he will.
- 1:49:07He'll stay out for a year and then decide, hey, you know what,
- 1:49:10I could come back or I could coach this team or some team
- 1:49:14will go out there and offer him a significant portion of money.
- 1:49:18So I don't believe in any part of what I have seen over the
- 1:49:22last couple of years when it comes to coaches that have sit
- 1:49:26out like a Rex Ryan who never came back.
- 1:49:28I cannot see Mike Tomlin sitting out long enough like his his
- 1:49:32predecessor and Coward who decided, oh, I don't need to go
- 1:49:35back. Tomlin loves the game too much.
- 1:49:37And and Tomlin, remember he got the job when he was 34 years
- 1:49:40old. He's still fairly young.
- 1:49:41He's what, 52 years old? He's still very young.
- 1:49:44He's as a head coach. He's got a lot of years left if
- 1:49:47he wants another job. I just don't believe there's any
- 1:49:50jobs that interest him going into this offseason.
- 1:49:53So he's going to take the money as a broadcaster and spend time
- 1:49:56with his family. And next year, if a team is out
- 1:49:59there that has tremendous, A tremendous amount of talent and
- 1:50:02draft stock. I'm mentioning one if if Aaron
- 1:50:05Glenn fails, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a phone
- 1:50:09call from Woody Johnson. It it's typical because Miami is
- 1:50:14another team that likes to hire coaches and fire him just as
- 1:50:17quick. So I, I mean, what's interesting
- 1:50:21to me is Mike McDaniel. It's it's still out there.
- 1:50:24Apparently the Browns want him badly.
- 1:50:27And then there's other teams. Now, obviously with the Bills,
- 1:50:29we'll get to them in a. Bit I think the Bills are going
- 1:50:30to try, but they have a weird rule where they have a delay
- 1:50:33where they can't interview these coaches.
- 1:50:35It's strange, but the Browns were the team and Sean McDermott
- 1:50:38is a quality head coach. I mean, he's done a great job.
- 1:50:42Over there in Buffalo, he's the one that developed Josh Allen, I
- 1:50:46think. I don't think people give him
- 1:50:47enough credit for the Josh Allen development.
- 1:50:49He was there from the beginning and he was there and you got to
- 1:50:52give him credit for that. So Sean McDermott might not get
- 1:50:55a job this year. Or if somebody wants to reach
- 1:50:58this year and if Sean wants to get another job, I think Sean
- 1:51:00should sit out this year, take a break and then take another job.
- 1:51:04Sean McDermott is going to be a hot commodity next year.
- 1:51:07I just want to point out cuz shout out to Nathan, you
- 1:51:09mentioned in the chat too as well, but you mentioned Mike
- 1:51:11McDaniel. Mike McDaniel.
- 1:51:13Actually just got picked up by the Chargers as their new
- 1:51:15offensive coordinator. Wow, really?
- 1:51:16Yes, so he is now with the Chargers on Jim Harbaugh's
- 1:51:20coaching and I'm. Going to tell you.
- 1:51:21Why he did that? Ladies and gentlemen.
- 1:51:23And the reason why he did that is cuz Mike McDaniel.
- 1:51:25Knows that playing with Justin Herbert next year and with the
- 1:51:28offensive lineman they're getting back next year, could
- 1:51:32you imagine what that offense is going to be?
- 1:51:33The way they can run the ball when they get their offensive
- 1:51:36firepower, their running backs back.
- 1:51:38I, I not only are they going to be dynamic, it's going to give
- 1:51:41Mike McDaniel another chance to be head coach in this league.
- 1:51:44He to me, if I, and I'll say this, he's my favorite coach.
- 1:51:48Oh yeah, he's my favorite. And if there's any coach out
- 1:51:52there, Mike Tomlin or? Any of these guys I'm.
- 1:51:54Taking Mike McDaniel IF. If the New York Jets.
- 1:51:56Are listening to me today and they they might be or they might
- 1:51:58not. If Aaron Glenn ever gets fired
- 1:52:00and I don't want him to get fired, but if he ever gets
- 1:52:02fired, if, if the fans push out Aaron Glenn, that's the guy I
- 1:52:06want. I want an offensive mighty
- 1:52:08coach. He's weird.
- 1:52:10He has a weird way of speaking because he doesn't speak right,
- 1:52:14but his drawing up plays, his understanding of the speed of
- 1:52:18the game and the way he finds players in the draft and and
- 1:52:22really looking for the players that fit his offense.
- 1:52:25He is the guy that I would bring there.
- 1:52:27You need an offensive mighty coach.
- 1:52:29He's the best one. That's the guy you're not
- 1:52:31worried about the trend of draft of maybe a weird, not at all.
- 1:52:34My ex, my heavy coach, is not out of gaze.
- 1:52:36I know not at all quickly eyes no, because Adam gaze is it's
- 1:52:40not Mike McDaniel I. I think what Mike?
- 1:52:42McDaniel brings to the. Table is an understanding on how
- 1:52:46to under the understand the speed of the game and use the
- 1:52:49players to work in his system. I don't think Adam Gates
- 1:52:52understand it what understood what kind of system he wanted to
- 1:52:55run. I think Mike McDaniel is the
- 1:52:57system trender and that's why I think he's the best hope for a
- 1:53:01lot of teams. And they got in and go to the
- 1:53:03Browns because he would have failed there.
- 1:53:04I think sitting out a year and try not to copy Robert Sala.
- 1:53:08I mean, we'll get into that a little bit later.
- 1:53:10But this guy is to me a slam dunk.
- 1:53:14Whoever hires him next. He had a winning record when he
- 1:53:16left Miami. Miami fired him with no
- 1:53:19quarterback. Think about that.
- 1:53:21He had no quarterback there. He took over for a coach that
- 1:53:24should have never been fired. Think about that and people
- 1:53:27questioning them bringing Mike McDaniel in.
- 1:53:30He to me, he did everything you wanted a coach to he two times
- 1:53:35in the playoffs with a quarterback, backup quarterback,
- 1:53:38one year a third string quarterback and almost won that
- 1:53:42game. I mean, it's an it's an amazing
- 1:53:44feat when you think about a young guy who has a tremendous
- 1:53:48ability, understanding that the game and and understanding the
- 1:53:51new style of game that teams and quarterbacks have to learn how
- 1:53:55to play. So that's the guy, man.
- 1:53:58That is the guy. That's the slam dunk, baby
- 1:54:01Jabba's, you know, in and out tonight.
- 1:54:03He's, you know, jiggling and wiggling as we all know him.
- 1:54:06We're waiting for the old peatster as we all know, ladies,
- 1:54:10and he's coming in. But my golf clap is right around
- 1:54:14the corner. This deserves a golf clap, no
- 1:54:18doubt. Golf clap.
- 1:54:19Golf clap. And my golf.
- 1:54:23Clap of the. Day goes to the MLB.
- 1:54:26Finally, the Riders. Get it right.
- 1:54:29And ladies and gentlemen, Carlos Beltran and Andrew Jones is now
- 1:54:36going to the Hall of Fame and I think very well worth it.
- 1:54:40I think about it. Andrew Jones, who's one of the
- 1:54:42greatest defensive center fielders we've ever seen from
- 1:54:45the Atlanta Braves. I, I think he doesn't get enough
- 1:54:48credit on his defense. And yeah, maybe he did steroids.
- 1:54:51Maybe at a time that he did steroids because he had a couple
- 1:54:54of seasons where he had over 40 home runs and one time fifty
- 1:54:58home runs. Maybe he did steroids, but it
- 1:54:59was never been proven. But guess what?
- 1:55:01There are a lot of guys that are in the Hall of Fame that I
- 1:55:04believe did steroids. Jeff Bagwell, you're going to
- 1:55:06tell me he never did steroids. How about Mike Piazzo, we've
- 1:55:09heard many, many times he had pimples all over his back.
- 1:55:11I know that doesn't mean steroids, but hey, that's the
- 1:55:14sign of it. I mean, there are a lot of guys,
- 1:55:16David Ortiz, who was on the list.
- 1:55:17There are guys that are in the Hall of Fame.
- 1:55:19Carlos Belt, he did some nasty things as a manager.
- 1:55:21There's no question that he did. He was a part of that Astro
- 1:55:24scandal and he was a part of that.
- 1:55:26That's why he didn't get the match job and that's the facts.
- 1:55:29And I still think he should get a coaching job or a manager job
- 1:55:32one way or another. Guy's a great baseball mind.
- 1:55:34This guy was one of the greatest playoff players we've ever seen.
- 1:55:38When he was when he went to the Astros, from jumping from one
- 1:55:40team to another when he when he left Kansas City, what he did in
- 1:55:43Kansas City, when he was then when they went to the playoffs,
- 1:55:46then what he did with the Astros, then what he did with
- 1:55:48the Mets. I mean, this guy was an all
- 1:55:50around beast, great defender, great offensive player, very
- 1:55:55well deserved. And Andrew Jones did just as
- 1:55:57much of of he's just as much of A talent as Carlos Beltran
- 1:56:01Beltran has for what he did on the football, on the baseball
- 1:56:04field, when it came to power, when it came to hitting, when it
- 1:56:07came to defense, everything very well deserved and the writers
- 1:56:11got it right. They finally got it right.
- 1:56:13These guys belong in the Hall of Fame.
- 1:56:15These guys are two of the greats of this era and very well
- 1:56:18deserved. So my golf course goes to the
- 1:56:20writers. Finally, I'm going to give him a
- 1:56:22golf clap on sending Carlos Beltran and Andrew Jones to the
- 1:56:27the Baseball Hall of Fame. Cooper's down.
- 1:56:30Golf clap. Golf clap.
- 1:56:32All right, ladies and gentlemen, when we come back, we're going
- 1:56:35to have him pop in and boy, oh boy, he's going to have a lot of
- 1:56:39popping because Minnesota didn't do much popping for them or him
- 1:56:45throughout the season. When we come back, a lot to get
- 1:56:48into on JJ McCarthy and this organization moving funny
- 1:56:51forward, or I almost said funny because there's a lot of jokes
- 1:56:54he's going to be making on the New York Jets.
- 1:56:56I'm going to be making on his Minnesota Vikings.
- 1:56:59When we come back, we will be talking to our friend, former
- 1:57:03Vikings linebacker and current Vikings radio broadcaster, the
- 1:57:08one the only P Persik. Any questions?
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- 1:59:00Ladies and gentlemen, we are now speaking to former Vikings
- 1:59:03linebacker and current Vikings radio broadcaster, our friend,
- 1:59:07the one, the only, Pete Bersik Petey.
- 1:59:12What's up, my friend? How are you guys?
- 1:59:14You're worldwide now. That's pretty.
- 1:59:16That's pretty impressive. Thank you, man.
- 1:59:17And we're a. Top 200 show.
- 1:59:19We've been a top 200 show for the last couple of months.
- 1:59:22In the country on Spotify and Apple, we're rocking it.
- 1:59:25And we were at 117 during I think the early December time,
- 1:59:30so we were almost in the top 100.
- 1:59:33We're not on a major network yet, so we're getting there and
- 1:59:37we're boxing our way through. My friend, how are you?
- 1:59:41Good. That's all the work, man.
- 1:59:43At least it pays off a little bit, right?
- 1:59:45I mean you. Sit there and do this.
- 1:59:46I mean, what do you do this every night?
- 1:59:48Five nights a week? 7 nights a week?
- 1:59:50No, we actually nights a week. We do it Mondays and Thursdays.
- 1:59:53If I did it five nights a week, I wouldn't.
- 1:59:55Have a voice, my friend. I wouldn't have a voice.
- 1:59:58He tried to start singing like he tried to do in the intro.
- 2:00:00Pete, I'd be lost. Pete, I'd be.
- 2:00:02Fed to the. Crocodiles OK, at least you have
- 2:00:05a nice comfy. Couch now I do I I listen
- 2:00:07inflatable or is that what is that?
- 2:00:10Doesn't look like it's inflatable.
- 2:00:12My friend, come on. Come on.
- 2:00:14Look like I'm pressing on it. That's not inflating, you know,
- 2:00:17it's it's it's got some cushion, Pete, but is that a air hockey
- 2:00:21table or what is that behind you?
- 2:00:22Yeah, it's an Right now it's an. Air.
- 2:00:25It's an air hockey table you can flip over.
- 2:00:27It has a pool table. Then we have ping pong table
- 2:00:30board that we can put on top of it, and that's ping pong's more
- 2:00:33my jam. I mean, air hockey's fine, but
- 2:00:36ping pong is is kind of my kind of my thing.
- 2:00:38All right, How could it only three star balls that your
- 2:00:41house, right? Yeah, I'm not good.
- 2:00:45Enough to for all that, but. Yeah, I've heard I'm a good.
- 2:00:49Ping pong. I've heard that before.
- 2:00:51I'm a good ping pong player, you know.
- 2:00:52I don't know. I'm not that good yet.
- 2:00:55Well, Pete, are you willing to go?
- 2:00:57Out on a limb and play me in ping pong whenever.
- 2:01:00We meet for the first time, Yeah, with with with biceps like
- 2:01:05that and doing push ups during commercial break.
- 2:01:08I don't do that buddy. I I don't do that there when I
- 2:01:11do. When I do go to the gym, I do
- 2:01:133000 push ups every single week. The Herschel work, Herschel
- 2:01:16Walker workout, I do a lot of it.
- 2:01:18I I've taken in 12,000 push ups every single month.
- 2:01:22I do certain calisthenics workouts when I go to the gym.
- 2:01:26So there's a lot of things that I do and it keeps me young and I
- 2:01:29try to stay as young as I possibly can.
- 2:01:31Like you. You look good man, you are a
- 2:01:33great football player. If I was doing 3000 push ups a
- 2:01:37week, my elbows and my shoulders would be done.
- 2:01:40That's the hardest part. I mean, you get to a certain
- 2:01:44age, you just don't wake up. And feel good.
- 2:01:45Anymore right and then as you get a little bit older you
- 2:01:50actually have to work out and feel like crap in order to feel
- 2:01:54good the next day it's a 0 sum game in that in that regard and
- 2:01:57it doesn't get any better you're not that much older enjoy it now
- 2:02:00while you can you're not that much older than me buddy I mean
- 2:02:03I'm I'm. 43 there. Are a lot of miles on the
- 2:02:06chassis. Though that's true, you did play
- 2:02:08professional football. You did.
- 2:02:09Beat up your body. Yeah, Yeah.
- 2:02:11Yeah, it wasn't. Yeah, four years of Lou Holtz
- 2:02:14and all that. It doesn't.
- 2:02:16Yeah. It'll it'll shorten the
- 2:02:17lifespan, no question is a tendency to do so.
- 2:02:21Speaking of lifespans, JJ McCarthy, I mean, yes.
- 2:02:26Here. Here's the facts.
- 2:02:27Here, I mean, Sam Donald did wonders for you guys last year.
- 2:02:31You guys decided to part ways with Sam.
- 2:02:34He goes to Seattle. Now these one way.
- 2:02:36He's one game away from being in a Super Bowl and winning a Super
- 2:02:39Bowl. We all know this because I'm a
- 2:02:41Jet fan. We drafted him.
- 2:02:43He goes over there, develops over there with O'Connell and
- 2:02:47now he goes over the Seattle and Seattle's enjoying the riches of
- 2:02:51Sam Donald. What are your thoughts of JJ
- 2:02:53McCarthy in his first full season as the starting
- 2:02:57quarterback? I mean he he improved to get
- 2:02:59better but there is a season 1 you.
- 2:03:02Know the, the problem, the main, I think the main challenge, so
- 2:03:06right now is just consistency, consistency #1 and just your
- 2:03:11ability to stay on the field. Because it was, I mean, he's
- 2:03:15been around for, he's been around for two seasons, right?
- 2:03:18So that's 35 games because we had a playoff game.
- 2:03:22I believe he's missed 17 or 18 of those games at least.
- 2:03:29In fact, it's probably more than that.
- 2:03:32Yeah, it's. Way more than that, yeah.
- 2:03:34You're looking at 18 plus probably 5.
- 2:03:37It's something around 10 I think.
- 2:03:39He's played in in in in two years.
- 2:03:42It's just so the injury bug, the injury bugs a big deal.
- 2:03:46And I say this and it's more, you see it more now than you
- 2:03:50really than you have ever. It's just you got to stay
- 2:03:52healthy if you want to. If you want to continue to take
- 2:03:54your game to the next level, especially if your defensive
- 2:03:57back, your quarterback, you've got to stay healthy.
- 2:04:00Why? Because you're going to have a
- 2:04:03game plan that the coach wants you to execute to your skill.
- 2:04:06Set, you go out and execute it and then.
- 2:04:08Defenses are going to figure out a way to stop it.
- 2:04:10And then you sit down with the hit with your coach and you
- 2:04:12figure out, OK, they're doing this, so we're going to do this.
- 2:04:15And then you stay. It's just that it's that cat and
- 2:04:17mouse game, right, that you play and you have to be around week
- 2:04:23in and week out in order to benefit from that experience,
- 2:04:27right? You're not, you're not going to
- 2:04:30take it to the next level or it's going to be much more
- 2:04:33difficult to take to the next level if you're just not in,
- 2:04:36you're in and you're out. And I mean, the, the injuries
- 2:04:39are very frustrating. It's a concussion ankle and
- 2:04:43they're all different. It's not like it's the same body
- 2:04:45part that's failing. It's just constant plays against
- 2:04:48Green Bay and then runs the ball out of bounds.
- 2:04:50He lowers his shoulder and tries to run over defensive back on
- 2:04:53his way out of bounds. And it's like, have you not
- 2:04:55learned anything yet? The NFL?
- 2:04:58These are men. You're going to get hit and
- 2:05:00you're going to get hurt again and you can't, you know, you
- 2:05:03can't afford that. So I think from that aspect of
- 2:05:05it, if that's the most frustrating part, we just never
- 2:05:08really got to see him put together 456 games.
- 2:05:13There's always something nagging.
- 2:05:14There's always, you know, every Tuesday you're sitting there
- 2:05:17going, Oh my God, what's it going to be this week?
- 2:05:19It's going to slow. His progress is he's already 2
- 2:05:22years into it, right? He's only 22.
- 2:05:25I actually just had a birthday. So he might be 23 or yeah, he
- 2:05:28might be just turn 23. So that part of it is that part
- 2:05:34of it is frustrating. You know, a lot of interceptions
- 2:05:37this year, six of his, I think he had 10 or 12 by the end of
- 2:05:41the season. I don't know off the top of my
- 2:05:43head. They were targeting Justin
- 2:05:45Jefferson and that you know, you have Justin Jefferson who whose
- 2:05:50cap number is going to be close to 50 million this year.
- 2:05:53You know, they may restructure them.
- 2:05:55So you have that, you have that that piece.
- 2:05:58You got to find a way to get the football to them and you know
- 2:06:02that relationship. I don't think really blossomed
- 2:06:06at all, you know, even more toward the end of the season.
- 2:06:09As you know, Justin Jefferson, I believe in week five against
- 2:06:12Cleveland was his last 100 yard performance.
- 2:06:16So, you know, you, you, yeah, you scratch your head and you
- 2:06:21go, OK, so he had a Justin Jefferson had a touchdown
- 2:06:25against Detroit. I believe that was week 6 or 7
- 2:06:29or somewhere in there, right around the middle enough to
- 2:06:31spoil them out of the playoffs. Well, no.
- 2:06:34This is the first time we played.
- 2:06:36When we kind of surprised everybody.
- 2:06:38But that was his, that was his last touchdown.
- 2:06:40He scored one on opening night fourth quarter to beat the Bears
- 2:06:44and then scored one against Detroit and that was it.
- 2:06:46So again, you can't, there's a lot there that needs to be
- 2:06:52developed. He's made some great throws,
- 2:06:55shown some accuracy, done some good things from getting out of
- 2:06:59the pocket. He he's, he's athletic, not as
- 2:07:02athletic as your guy. I think Dart is, is more
- 2:07:05athletic. Well, no, I'm sorry.
- 2:07:07He's with the Giants. I don't know why you're.
- 2:07:11Laughing. That's.
- 2:07:14True, I didn't. Think all the interceptions.
- 2:07:16You guys. Anyway, I digress, but.
- 2:07:21Yeah, we're, you know, it's. You look at Darnold.
- 2:07:25I mean, Darnold was Darnold was. Cut before we ever signed him
- 2:07:28because he drafted JJ McCarthy #10 you traded up to get him
- 2:07:33round one a year before. And so that decision was already
- 2:07:36made. So it's not as if the Vikings
- 2:07:38didn't keep Darnold. They offered him a contract,
- 2:07:39says that Darnold said no, I'm I need to be the man and the
- 2:07:42starter. And Seattle said, OK, here's a
- 2:07:45here's a ton of money, let's go. It's tough.
- 2:07:47It's the first time in the history of the NFL at a
- 2:07:50quarterback. Won 14 games with the team and
- 2:07:52didn't return with said team. And now he's a game away from
- 2:07:55going to the Super Bowl. So tough to see.
- 2:07:57Makes you wonder. But when you draft the
- 2:07:59quarterback in the first, all right, there you go.
- 2:08:01Here he goes, here he goes, there he goes, ladies and
- 2:08:04gentlemen. I was waiting.
- 2:08:06I was waiting for him to bring up the New York Jets, but that's
- 2:08:09coming. Ladies, I will stop it.
- 2:08:11I was surprised Jackson Dart was worked in tabs.
- 2:08:14Jab Yeah, you came up with a cable with a new bag of tricks.
- 2:08:18It's coming, ladies. And gentlemen, so I.
- 2:08:21Just continue on with the passing game, the Vikings
- 2:08:23offense. I think a lot of other
- 2:08:24circumstances, obviously. Happening obviously Addison with
- 2:08:27a suspension then he was kind of up and down without the
- 2:08:29offensive line injuries. I was actually at the Vikings
- 2:08:31Giants game right before Christmas and I think one of the
- 2:08:34Vikings interior offensive lineman got hurt in that game
- 2:08:36and Hawkinson same kind of thing.
- 2:08:38Do you think McCarthy didn't trust a lot of those guys and
- 2:08:41was wrote one read to Jefferson a lot of the time or do you
- 2:08:43think it's a lot about the offensive coaching?
- 2:08:44The offense has changed quite a bit from this year to last year.
- 2:08:47We last year with Darnold the very.
- 2:08:49Vertical team and Darnold can make those throws a lot of deep
- 2:08:55over routes, you know double moves things like that a lot of
- 2:09:00progress. You know, pure progressive
- 2:09:02progression type reads where you you're not necessarily you don't
- 2:09:07necessarily know where you're going to go with the ball pre
- 2:09:09snap. You read as you go, which takes
- 2:09:12a little bit longer and yeah, it it didn't quite work out very
- 2:09:18well early on. And I think.
- 2:09:21We saw the offense. Change a little bit along the
- 2:09:24way and they simplified it, cut the field in half form, made
- 2:09:28some good throws, but it's just it's not the style of offense I
- 2:09:33think that Justin Jefferson is best suited for.
- 2:09:37We'll see. Well, you know, they'll, they'll
- 2:09:39get there, I would assume. But, you know, right now we'll
- 2:09:41see. But it it's, yeah, it's, it's a
- 2:09:45little disappointing on that end.
- 2:09:49Turnovers killed us. Penalties killed us early.
- 2:09:52I mean, we were last in the league in sack rate, which Chris
- 2:09:58Cooper, our offensive line coach was was let go.
- 2:10:01So they're going to try to make some changes there.
- 2:10:03Yeah. So we're we're still.
- 2:10:06Yeah. Ryan Kelly's the center.
- 2:10:08He's the guy that you're talking about.
- 2:10:09He just got back from a concussion and he's got another
- 2:10:12one. So he might be done.
- 2:10:13His career might be over with. I think he had three of them
- 2:10:17this year, so 2 for sure. So, yeah, it's we got a lot of
- 2:10:21rebuilding to do. We are talking to former Vikings
- 2:10:23linebacker and Curry Vikings radio broadcaster Pete Bursick.
- 2:10:27He's been on our show quite a few times and very likable
- 2:10:32person. We love him and we've gone,
- 2:10:35we've gone back and forth. We still haven't met.
- 2:10:37We still haven't gone to a game where and I got a ping pong rule
- 2:10:41hasn't put me, he hasn't put me on a broadcast because I was in
- 2:10:44New York. I.
- 2:10:45Was in New York, we. What came out there Thursday
- 2:10:48before the Giants? Game Oh yeah I get it I was I
- 2:10:51was at that game it was a birthday guy I don't know I
- 2:10:53totally forgot I. Forgot about us, Pete.
- 2:10:55We're we're we're not a forgetful bunch of.
- 2:10:57Guys, but you're forgetting about us.
- 2:10:59I'm. I'm a little upset, man, little
- 2:11:01upset there, but you know, like the rest of the New York teams
- 2:11:04and you, you work out of New Jersey well.
- 2:11:08Well, there's a lot to get into. I mean my take on John Harbaugh.
- 2:11:12Was pretty much the giants don't have anything and for him to
- 2:11:15come out and say that the Atlanta Falcons are not the
- 2:11:18better team is a ridiculous take.
- 2:11:20It just tells me that he's going for the money and that's that's
- 2:11:23the facts and and and and I like Jackson dart but we don't know
- 2:11:27what Jackson dart is The guy doesn't obviously throw the
- 2:11:30ball. He slides he doesn't slide very
- 2:11:32much. He puts himself in harm's way.
- 2:11:34When is it going to take we saw scataboo.
- 2:11:36We've heard that, we've seen the stuff and I he said that about
- 2:11:39Scatterpot Watch, he's going to have a bad injury this year.
- 2:11:42He's going to go down. He's not going to be the same
- 2:11:43person as same player and what happens he goes down, he has a
- 2:11:46horrible injury and and Cam Scatterpot might not be the same
- 2:11:49person. I just you play that way, it's
- 2:11:52going to eventually haunt you. And I think John Harbaugh is an
- 2:11:56interesting selection. I think the Giants think that
- 2:11:58they won something, but they still got Joe Shane there.
- 2:12:01And now you got to they're they're becoming The Jets now
- 2:12:04because now they got to answer to ownership.
- 2:12:07Who, when have you heard on a coach in AGM go and have to talk
- 2:12:14to ownership before they make a move?
- 2:12:16The New York Jets, It's typical. So how is this work?
- 2:12:20It doesn't work. So it tells me the Giants are
- 2:12:23putting themselves in a really bad position.
- 2:12:25And by the way, and I said this and I'll say it again and you
- 2:12:28can say this and I, Pete, you might like John and I, I don't
- 2:12:31hate John. What does he want besides taking
- 2:12:35over for a Ray? You know, remember he took Ray
- 2:12:37Lewis, he took Ed, Ed Reed, he took Suggs.
- 2:12:41These weren't his guys. He took those guys on a roster
- 2:12:44that was pretty much made for him to win and he won with that
- 2:12:48roster. Since then, his development of
- 2:12:51Lamar Jackson is guess what? Lamar Jackson didn't want him
- 2:12:53there. Lamar was the reason why he
- 2:12:55didn't go back. So that tells me one thing.
- 2:12:58It tells me that he lost his team.
- 2:13:00He lost his one player, the player that he believed was on
- 2:13:04his side. So what it tells me is John
- 2:13:07Harbaugh is going to be there. He signed A5 year deal.
- 2:13:10He won't be there more than three or four years.
- 2:13:12He will fail over there with the Giants and then he'll ride off
- 2:13:15into the sunset like all the other coaches and GM's.
- 2:13:18As I wrote my story, they've had four coaches and three GM's in
- 2:13:2210 years. Failure, failure, failure,
- 2:13:25failure. He's got a chance, though.
- 2:13:26We'll see. I mean, it's, it's crazy this
- 2:13:30year. The decisions that that have
- 2:13:32been have been made like in Buffalo, you know what, what
- 2:13:37ultimately went down there and and you're right too, we don't
- 2:13:39know. We don't know all the stories.
- 2:13:41I mean, if it came down to the quarterback or the head coach
- 2:13:46and something had to give, sometimes it's a lot easier to
- 2:13:49get rid of a head coach than it is a quarterback.
- 2:13:51Apparently he was critical of the Bills roster or something
- 2:13:53like before the playoffs. And you know what's funny?
- 2:13:56I, I I'm sorry to. Cut you off and the reason why
- 2:13:57I'm flipping it is if you look at what's going on with.
- 2:14:00Buffalo and you look at what's going on with the Giants.
- 2:14:02I know a lot of Jet fans are saying Aaron Glenn this and
- 2:14:05Aaron Glenn that, but Dan Campbell, his first year only
- 2:14:08had three wins and this was not Aaron Glenn's team.
- 2:14:11And look at the draft stock The Jets have right now moving
- 2:14:15forward and they can move down in the set in the first round at
- 2:14:182nd because there isn't going to be a quarterback available now
- 2:14:21that Dante Moore is going back into the either, he's going to
- 2:14:25the portal, he's going back to Oregon.
- 2:14:27So The Jets are in the driver's seat once again to really put
- 2:14:32themselves in a great position and they have a lot of money.
- 2:14:35They have third most money in the offseason to add players.
- 2:14:38So the driver's seat is, I don't care what John Harboll said and
- 2:14:42said. And I heard there was a story
- 2:14:43that came out that The Jets reached out to him and he didn't
- 2:14:46want to even have a conversation with The Jets.
- 2:14:48Well, guess what, John? Let's see how you work with $11
- 2:14:51million. Let's see what you work with
- 2:14:53with the least amount of draft stock that you have in the next
- 2:14:56two years. And we'll see how that all works
- 2:14:58with you and this organization, which you got to go to John
- 2:15:01Mayer to make decisions. Wonderful.
- 2:15:03I can't wait. This isn't Ozzie Newsome, this
- 2:15:05is John Mayer who decided or didn't speak up for Saquon
- 2:15:09Barkley. And what did he do?
- 2:15:10He almost broke Eric Dickerson's record.
- 2:15:12And by the way, Saquon Barkley won a Super Bowl last year.
- 2:15:15Kiss my ass, Johnny. Yeah, I'm speechless.
- 2:15:18I I'm. I don't know what to say.
- 2:15:19But after that one, I'm sorry, Pete.
- 2:15:21I'm just. No, I don't.
- 2:15:23Apologize, I'm trying to, I'm trying to wear it on your
- 2:15:25sleeve, man. It's.
- 2:15:26A good thing I I'm trying to be an.
- 2:15:27Influencer here. And I I I if anybody.
- 2:15:30Listens to show knows and I'm out of my.
- 2:15:31Mind I, I speak the truth and I'm a personality and I'm not
- 2:15:36going to sit here and beat around the Bush if you're going
- 2:15:38to sell me. I wrote a book.
- 2:15:39I wrote a book, I wrote. I wrote a story that drew 20,000
- 2:15:44fans to attack me on social media.
- 2:15:47Now I've been writing a lot and terrorizing the Reddit area of
- 2:15:52the world and I'm my store user. That's a rough.
- 2:15:55I love it. I love it.
- 2:15:57Pete if you want if you want to respond to all his articles.
- 2:15:59Where all the. Worldwide sports radio website
- 2:16:01Worldwide Pete I got. To sing, we got to swap.
- 2:16:03We got to swap numbers. I got to sing you some of the
- 2:16:06the stories that I write. I think you would enjoy it.
- 2:16:08You laugh your ass off. Yeah, you'd be good.
- 2:16:11I will. And I'll.
- 2:16:12I'll have speed to get your number.
- 2:16:13But I have been a person. Of.
- 2:16:16Personality over the over the years and I've always come out
- 2:16:20and I've told you from from the gun how I feel about something
- 2:16:24and I'm not going to beat around the Bush.
- 2:16:25And if there's any Bush that I'm beating around, it's the Bush
- 2:16:27that Speedy needs to cut. So.
- 2:16:33But my thought here is, yeah, if you look at all three New York
- 2:16:38teams, if you're in a driver's seat right now, I, I, Josh Allen
- 2:16:43is by far the best quarterback. And The Jets don't have a
- 2:16:46quarterback and the Giants think they have a quarterback.
- 2:16:48Besides that, the team that's in the driver's seat right now, as
- 2:16:52much as you don't want to believe it, is the New York
- 2:16:56Jets. And for John Harbaugh to come
- 2:16:58out and say, well, I don't even want to talk to them, they're
- 2:17:02not worth my time, tells me that John Harbaugh is doing one thing
- 2:17:07and one thing only. Not doing yourself, you know, a
- 2:17:10service on understanding what's out there and the possibilities
- 2:17:14of taking a team that's failed for 50 years or 60 years on not
- 2:17:18winning a Super Bowl and bringing them to the winning
- 2:17:21ways that they want to be. That's the way you go.
- 2:17:24You don't go to a team. Oh, I'm going to go and jump
- 2:17:26and, and be a Mara bitch, you know, cuz that's what he is.
- 2:17:29He's a Mara bitch. So that's, that's what he is.
- 2:17:32He took the money, he's a bitch and that's the way I look at it.
- 2:17:36And until he proves me otherwise, the fact that he has
- 2:17:39say what say do you have? You have $11 million, you are
- 2:17:43going to have to move text to Lawrence.
- 2:17:45He is your best defensive lineman who wasn't healthy this
- 2:17:48year and you're going to move your best defensive lineman
- 2:17:50because you can't afford them? Hey, that tells me an
- 2:17:53incompetent GM and he's still there running the show and
- 2:17:57telling you what he is doing and you're going to have say on it.
- 2:18:01Good friggin luck. That's all I'm going to say.
- 2:18:04Good luck. If that is the case, then there
- 2:18:07will be clues because that you know, coaches will never come
- 2:18:10out and. Say what exactly is going on,
- 2:18:12but he'll I think Harbaugh would make it clear that he's not
- 2:18:16making personnel decisions. If, you know, keep an eye out
- 2:18:20for any any comments along those lines where you know, and I'm
- 2:18:24not I don't do personnel or it's, you know, I don't make
- 2:18:26those final decisions. You know, those are the those
- 2:18:29are the little Nuggets that you that's how you read between the
- 2:18:31lines with with coach speak. They're good at it.
- 2:18:34They're going to, I mean, and I think the other thing too might
- 2:18:36be just what are your thoughts on just the divisions that the
- 2:18:40Giants are more likely to succeed right in the NFC East
- 2:18:44then maybe a team is now with the emergence of New England.
- 2:18:48Here's what I'm going to tell you.
- 2:18:50The Giants have to still deal with the Eagles, and I'm sorry.
- 2:18:53The Eagles have a way built more talented machine over there.
- 2:18:58They still got to deal with the Cowboys.
- 2:19:00The Cowboys are missing a corner and a defensive lineman to be an
- 2:19:03elite team. OK, elite.
- 2:19:06Maybe a little more. I I don't really think so.
- 2:19:07I I think they're real. Maybe maybe another corner.
- 2:19:10They bring George Pickens. They have the money.
- 2:19:12They they have all the ability in the world to be a contender
- 2:19:15next year. Washington, they got to prove
- 2:19:18themselves. They got to stay healthy.
- 2:19:19The Giants are in a harder division than Jess.
- 2:19:21I don't trust the Patriots. They they had the third easiest
- 2:19:24schedule in NFL history. Third, the easiest schedule in
- 2:19:28NFL history. And let me ask you a question as
- 2:19:30good as Drake. May was and everybody.
- 2:19:32Says an. MVP candidate which is Matthew
- 2:19:34Stafford. No question.
- 2:19:36Drake may tell me how many over 500 teams did he beat this year?
- 2:19:43Don't know. Didn't follow the Patriots this
- 2:19:45year exactly. He won 10 games.
- 2:19:48They. Won 10 games in a row and beat
- 2:19:49nobody. They beat nothing.
- 2:19:51And by the way, they'll change next year, that's for sure.
- 2:19:53Yeah, definitely will. Let's ask you how, how, how good
- 2:19:57did? He look last this past.
- 2:19:58Week, you know I didn't watch. Much.
- 2:20:01Of that game, you're better off not because that was the.
- 2:20:04Worst I just I can. Only I can, only I can't
- 2:20:07dedicate. Two entire days to it so.
- 2:20:10I don't watch, you know, a little a little bit of it.
- 2:20:12It's just turnovers were listen, listen, I mean, that's that,
- 2:20:17that whole that that Texans offensive line was getting.
- 2:20:19Pushed around, they couldn't run.
- 2:20:21It's like. You're thinking to yourself,
- 2:20:22just run the ball because it's better than turning it over.
- 2:20:26And they just couldn't even run the ball because their offensive
- 2:20:29line was getting destroyed, you know?
- 2:20:31So yeah, the Texans just, yeah, they, they, they look rough.
- 2:20:35I'd rather take a dump than watch the Texans and the
- 2:20:38Patriots play in that football. Game honestly it massive dump
- 2:20:43because I was in Montreal watching this game and me and my
- 2:20:46girlfriend was sitting there and was saying what are we watching
- 2:20:48I mean how are you doing in Montreal well we took a ride we
- 2:20:51take a vacation we love Canada so we we.
- 2:20:54We fly or drive. We usually you've been a
- 2:20:57Whistler. I've been a Whistler, yeah.
- 2:21:00Vancouver Whistler, yeah. Yeah, I, I, I was at the.
- 2:21:03NHL draft over there in Vancouver.
- 2:21:05It's beautiful. It's beautiful.
- 2:21:07Went up there before we played, played the Seahawks this year,
- 2:21:10right Thanksgiving time. It's just.
- 2:21:12Beautiful. It's Blood Canada.
- 2:21:13It's been the band for me. I used to go to Calgary every
- 2:21:15summer and so I'm I'm with you on that.
- 2:21:18Love it. And we went to Montreal, but it
- 2:21:20was snowing. It was disgusting out.
- 2:21:21We did sightsee and she never got a chance to see.
- 2:21:23It, I used to go there as a hockey player, so I, I love
- 2:21:26Canada and I don't know if I would ever live there because
- 2:21:29the food is just absolutely putrid.
- 2:21:31It's horrible. But the, the courtesy, the, the
- 2:21:36politeness of people there are so much better here there than
- 2:21:39they are here. I guess it's the king now, but
- 2:21:43they used to have a picture of the Queen and all and all the
- 2:21:45hockey rinks. Yes, they have Queen.
- 2:21:47They have pictures of all different people on their money
- 2:21:49too. Their money's easy to.
- 2:21:50RIP Very nice to look at, but our money is definitely worth
- 2:21:53more money. So I'd rather play here in New
- 2:21:56York or in the States then play out there in Canada and have to
- 2:21:59deal with that. But you know, my question and
- 2:22:02and my thought here with with you is you mentioned the New
- 2:22:06York teams and there are four teams still in the playoffs and
- 2:22:11there are the Rams in Seattle, the Patriots and I call them
- 2:22:16shits them because Stidham is the starting quarterback of the
- 2:22:21Broncos going into the AFC title game.
- 2:22:24And this when you when you talk about the NFL and rigging
- 2:22:28opportunities, this is the beautiful and most polite way of
- 2:22:34saying, hey, Seattle or the Rams or the Patriots.
- 2:22:38Both teams played the Patriots in less than 10 years.
- 2:22:42And what a Kuwinky dink that would fall together for the old
- 2:22:45crafter who likes to go to massage parlors, too.
- 2:22:49So I I mean, this would be perfect for him.
- 2:22:51He could go to San Francisco and go to whatever massage parlor he
- 2:22:54wants. I mean, your thoughts, you mean.
- 2:22:57Well, the game's in San Jose. It's not really in San Fran.
- 2:23:00Well, yeah, I guess you're. Right.
- 2:23:02I mean, well, whatever you want to put it, whatever you want.
- 2:23:04To slice it and dice it, but you think they think they're going
- 2:23:07to be flipping things to see who gets the workout at the San
- 2:23:09Francisco facility. Oh well.
- 2:23:12Probably all the you know with the substation radiation.
- 2:23:15Poisoning, yeah. All.
- 2:23:17That stuff. Yeah, we're going there.
- 2:23:18Thank you. Thank you.
- 2:23:19We're heading. There for the old.
- 2:23:21Super Bowl and we're going. To have to deal with that
- 2:23:23ourselves. So you may want to, you know,
- 2:23:26get a or two of blood taken out before you go out there.
- 2:23:28Oh, thank you. Thank you, Pete for making me
- 2:23:30feel very good about myself and heading out to San Francisco.
- 2:23:34Where the the dust is glooming and the vampires might be well,
- 2:23:38you're going to the Super Bowl. We probably are.
- 2:23:40We're we're, we're going to do radio row again.
- 2:23:42I'm not going probably. Yeah, we're we're.
- 2:23:45We're waiting on verifications. We're waiting for verification.
- 2:23:48Verifications. Because verifications.
- 2:23:50Don't come out until like 2. Weeks before the Super Bowl, I
- 2:23:53got you. Which is absolutely pathetic.
- 2:23:55The NFL needs to stop, stop doing this because I'm not going
- 2:23:58unless we're doing Radio Row and last year, I'm not doing what we
- 2:24:01did last year. I didn't like the way.
- 2:24:04Here's the thing with the NFL, and I don't disrespect anything
- 2:24:08that they've done building a product as good as it is.
- 2:24:11What I hate about the NFL is you put people at Radio Row that
- 2:24:15don't belong there. You have college kids that don't
- 2:24:18belong there. They're eating, they're doing,
- 2:24:21and then they're sitting at this table.
- 2:24:22They're not even doing anything. They're not interviewing,
- 2:24:24they're not doing anything. Nobody cares what they have to
- 2:24:26say. And we are a top 200 show in the
- 2:24:30country. We are better than half the
- 2:24:33show. We're better than every single
- 2:24:34show at Radio Row. And we're just so, you know,
- 2:24:38Pete, when we were at Radio Row the last day that we were
- 2:24:40jumping table to table just to get our interviews, everybody
- 2:24:43wanted to be interviewed by us. Everybody, everybody came to our
- 2:24:47table. There were people from other
- 2:24:48tables wanting to watch the interviews that we were giving
- 2:24:51because we were so outlandishly crazy.
- 2:24:53We didn't even they're they were amazed how I would get out
- 2:24:57questions not knowing who I was interviewing.
- 2:24:59You know how they come up to you and they say, well, you're
- 2:25:01interviewing this guy at this time, so you have to get your I
- 2:25:03don't it was like right off the ball.
- 2:25:05You know what? Just just skip and go to the
- 2:25:07combine. All you got the combine the
- 2:25:11combine. Radio row is fantastic, you got
- 2:25:13plenty of room. You can stretch out.
- 2:25:14You got all the, you know. Let's go.
- 2:25:16All the all the guys on the other side of the of the
- 2:25:18curtain. You can go over there.
- 2:25:19Interview players. Yeah, I think Pete, let's go.
- 2:25:22Let's get into that, Pete. No, no.
- 2:25:24Let's do it together, man. I'll be there.
- 2:25:25Let's do it. Let's work.
- 2:25:27Let's do it. It's a good bit.
- 2:25:28Let's do it. If you're going to.
- 2:25:30Be there, Let's let's college kids eating chips.
- 2:25:32You know none of that. You don't.
- 2:25:33Have to deal. With any of that stuff, no, no
- 2:25:34Chips Ahoy or any of. That stuff.
- 2:25:36I like those cookies by the way. I like to dip them in a nice.
- 2:25:39Cup of milk, if you know what I mean.
- 2:25:41You know, a little slice, a little dice and pop it in the
- 2:25:44mouth, as Speedy loves to do himself, right, Speedy.
- 2:25:47Yes, I do like cookies, but I prefer other types of cookies
- 2:25:50over that. And other sausages.
- 2:25:51Yeah, other. Sausages.
- 2:25:52I'm going to say you, Eddie, I would caution you to.
- 2:25:56Agreeing with anything that guy say.
- 2:25:58I'm aware I'm. Aware of that I've I've been
- 2:26:01following for any of his. Vague.
- 2:26:02Terms, as he likes to put it, I've I've followed for enough of
- 2:26:07his traps. Well, you know I.
- 2:26:09You know I throw. I throw a leash like Nathan
- 2:26:12would. Say And I'm hoping that it
- 2:26:14connects hopefully not to the wrong people.
- 2:26:17So I get arrested. You don't know Nathan, but
- 2:26:21Nathan likes to tie leashes to. Women.
- 2:26:23I don't. Know.
- 2:26:25He likes to put him on a leash. Here.
- 2:26:27I got a take for you. I'm putting you on a leash now.
- 2:26:29Breaking news, a lot of hot ladies.
- 2:26:31Breaking news. I got to go.
- 2:26:33Back off now. Breaking.
- 2:26:34News Do you want to jerk me off? The.
- 2:26:41Soundboard is a lot more well put together since the last time
- 2:26:45you were on the show. Breaking news.
- 2:26:47Smell my ass. Breaking news story.
- 2:26:51Well, this we, we, we're out. We're we're a little late.
- 2:26:54Now it's. Over 10:00 so you.
- 2:26:56Know the kiddies are out to bed. I like to have a little fun.
- 2:27:00You know, we like to enjoy our guests and we like to let our
- 2:27:05guests understand that we're not like every other show.
- 2:27:08We, we throw curve balls and we make sure that it sticks and
- 2:27:11hopefully it's not a dartboard and, and if it is, it's going to
- 2:27:15be bullseye. But Speaking of bullseyes, I
- 2:27:19know I didn't give Speedy a chance to ask you a question,
- 2:27:21but here is a good question for you.
- 2:27:23Mike McDaniel, the announcement he is heading to the Chargers.
- 2:27:28What do you think that does for the Chargers in a new season
- 2:27:32with a healthy Slater, a healthy Alt, a healthy Johnson, McKay,
- 2:27:37Becton and Justin Herbert and Jimmy H Jim Harbaugh, with Mike
- 2:27:43McDaniel calling the place? I think, I think that'll be
- 2:27:48that'll be good for him, very good for him.
- 2:27:52You know, Herbert, Herbert's, Herbert's impressive.
- 2:27:55He, I think what's most impressive, at least until he
- 2:27:59gets to the playoffs, is just how he doesn't turn the ball
- 2:28:02over very much. Same thing I think Caleb, Caleb
- 2:28:04Williams throughout the year did a very, very good job of and
- 2:28:10you're going to get a lot more creativity, a lot more energy
- 2:28:14with that offense now. And so that you know, everyone,
- 2:28:19it's like, it's like back and when they went back a year or
- 2:28:23two ago, everyone was saying I did the Chargers just going to
- 2:28:26be running the football, running the football.
- 2:28:28You know, it's Harbaugh's way. Well, you know, now you now
- 2:28:31you've got now you have a number of different things that you're
- 2:28:35going to do. And for, you know, for Daniels,
- 2:28:37I think it's it'll be refreshing for him, I think just to be a
- 2:28:41coordinator instead of having to take care of everything.
- 2:28:44His paychecks obviously going to be smaller.
- 2:28:46Well, it depends on if you have any time left on his contract
- 2:28:49and then still get paid, but he'll be responsible for a lot
- 2:28:52less. So I think that's going to be, I
- 2:28:54think that's a good move. For the.
- 2:28:55Chargers. I really do.
- 2:28:57I think that's can help open up that offense quite a bit.
- 2:29:00So 2 coaches you're from, you're familiar with Brian Flores,
- 2:29:02obviously the current defensive coordinator with the Vikings and
- 2:29:04then Kevin Stefanski, who? Used to be with the Vikings
- 2:29:06before you got the Browns job and now back with Kirk Cousins
- 2:29:09in Atlanta. What are your thoughts to 1st
- 2:29:11Kirk Cousins in Atlanta that fit Stefanski with that fit because
- 2:29:15he'll have to play a lot of the year and then Brian Flores, does
- 2:29:17he get a head coaching job and where do you like him?
- 2:29:19It'll be interesting to see what happens, you know, with with
- 2:29:23Stefanski down in Atlanta. I.
- 2:29:24Know Baker Mayfield's already taking a few shots at him.
- 2:29:28You know that that division needs some spicing up right that
- 2:29:32the the Falcons Buccaneers game need some spicing up.
- 2:29:36So Mayfield decided all right, I'm going to take a few shots at
- 2:29:39coach and you know we're going to we're going to see if we can
- 2:29:41get us slotted for the first Monday night game right there.
- 2:29:45I think they're trying to ramp up viewership in that regard.
- 2:29:48Kirk cousins. It's one of those things where
- 2:29:51when we had Kirk Cousins, a lot of people complained because
- 2:29:54there was just certain things that he do.
- 2:29:56He was he didn't scramble. He was in the pocket.
- 2:29:58Sometimes look brilliant, other times not so much.
- 2:30:01Could protect, you know, the protection was tough because
- 2:30:04defenses know where the quarterback is going to be.
- 2:30:07He's going to be in the pocket. And as everyone's complaining
- 2:30:14about Cousins, in the back of your mind, you're kind of.
- 2:30:16Letting them know hey, it can get a hell.
- 2:30:18Of a lot worse OK I mean no one you know everybody's upset about
- 2:30:21cousins and what not but it could get a lot worse and in a
- 2:30:24in a lot of ways I think it has I mean Darnold bailed us out
- 2:30:28last year and now we're we're finally seeing what it's like to
- 2:30:31develop a young quarterback. It's not fun and it takes a long
- 2:30:34time and you know, for Cousins to come back.
- 2:30:41You know, I don't know. I mean it he was already, I
- 2:30:45think on the decline physically, as you know, as you just as we
- 2:30:50let him go. So, you know, a couple years
- 2:30:53later and Achilles tear later and it's I I think he's on that
- 2:30:59list for the Vikings. I don't think he's.
- 2:31:01Priority number one, but I think.
- 2:31:02He might be a name that they wouldn't mind having back at
- 2:31:07obviously a lot lower pay scale than when we were paying him
- 2:31:10before. But you know, it's ultimately
- 2:31:13for ultimately, I believe Stefanski's decision now, right,
- 2:31:16Whether or not they want to keep them or move or move on from
- 2:31:19them. So, you know, who knows?
- 2:31:23I mean, Kevin's just got to go somewhere.
- 2:31:25Where? There's not a lot of
- 2:31:26quarterback. Controversy you just can't seem
- 2:31:28to get. Can't.
- 2:31:29Seem to get out of the way. He doesn't know how to we deal
- 2:31:31with any with any of that. Holy cow, he doesn't know how to
- 2:31:34develop them. We are talking.
- 2:31:36To former. Vikings linebacker and current
- 2:31:38Vikings. Radio broadcast our friend Pete
- 2:31:40Persik. He's drinking an energy drink.
- 2:31:42It looks like he's trying to keep the speed up because he's
- 2:31:47about to fall asleep. There it is, monster.
- 2:31:49If you want to have a heart attack, you can fart it.
- 2:31:53I farted. Fart your way out drinking some
- 2:31:55monster, ladies and gentlemen, as Nathan would say.
- 2:31:58I farted. Or I want her melons.
- 2:32:01You can get her melons too. If you want a monster, you can
- 2:32:03get his melons and her. Melons and everybody else's
- 2:32:05melons. Bagel hole, Bagel hole.
- 2:32:07Anyways, before we let you go man, because I know you're busy.
- 2:32:12And. I like I said, we'll swap.
- 2:32:14Not really. That's good.
- 2:32:15All right. Maybe he's prepping his ping
- 2:32:17pong trash talking. That's true.
- 2:32:19I mean, we could. Trash talk anytime you want,
- 2:32:21Pete. I mean, I, well, you know one
- 2:32:23thing. Just to if I, if you don't mind
- 2:32:26if I jump in, go ahead. I started my I started a YouTube
- 2:32:29channel. Oh, OK.
- 2:32:30It's called Eye in the sky. It's.
- 2:32:32At. Pete versus 56 and I do a lot of
- 2:32:37I do the the film breakdowns, but I do them taking my time
- 2:32:43talking to the talking to the viewer, talking about matchups
- 2:32:47throughout the season. But a lot of it's just pure, you
- 2:32:49know, just plain old football. One of the videos like this when
- 2:32:53I got up here, Dallas Turner and his his growth and progress,
- 2:32:56what he's doing better. It's really, it's just something
- 2:33:00I enjoy just kind of teaching the game to fans because I think
- 2:33:06the game is a lot more compelling when you understand
- 2:33:09what's going on out there. The more you understand about
- 2:33:11what's going on out there, the more fun it is to watch these
- 2:33:15games instead of having to bet money on them and all that to
- 2:33:18make them interesting. You can, once you learn enough
- 2:33:20about them and it's that's kind of that's kind of life, right?
- 2:33:24The more you let you try to learn something every day.
- 2:33:26I'm still trying to learn the game, but I get to sit down and
- 2:33:29share that with the fans, mostly Viking fans, but there's all
- 2:33:32other, you know, there's all kinds of stuff on there.
- 2:33:34Well, you're great. I just hate you too because the
- 2:33:38the algorithms and the change it.
- 2:33:39To transition it just yeah, I, yeah, it's like it's one of
- 2:33:43those things where I'm doing this just to get it out just to
- 2:33:46just to. Put it out there.
- 2:33:47Yeah, I got it. And it's like with the
- 2:33:48algorithm. Yeah, I understand that.
- 2:33:51It's there's a game within a game, right?
- 2:33:54You're a game within a game. And Pete, your brain is a game
- 2:33:57within a game. I mean your voice.
- 2:33:59Your perception, your thoughts, your personality, everything
- 2:34:04about you we love. I got to see about that.
- 2:34:06I do. I I do.
- 2:34:07I love you. You're one of my favorite
- 2:34:09guests. You know I'm I should have.
- 2:34:11I should. Have had my guitar all hooked up
- 2:34:13for you. Yeah, that would be good.
- 2:34:15I mean, play some, play some, you know?
- 2:34:18Slayer, Metallica. That's what I'm.
- 2:34:20Talking about. For Whom the Bell Tolls.
- 2:34:23Donut. Donut Dong.
- 2:34:26Yeah, I I would. I used to.
- 2:34:30I used to cover. A lot of bands, man, I was.
- 2:34:31A drummer, as you know. But really, yeah, I was a
- 2:34:36drummer. Battle of the Bands.
- 2:34:37I I drummed for a group called Taylon.
- 2:34:39I actually sang backup. I actually had a decent voice
- 2:34:43when I was younger. Let's let's, let's, let's see
- 2:34:46top three drummers go, man. The guy, the guy from Dream
- 2:34:50Theater is definitely one of them.
- 2:34:57I OK Dave Matthews Band lead drum.
- 2:35:01Drummer, he he's. Fantastic.
- 2:35:04And Motörhead, the motor the the drummer from or left or left Def
- 2:35:11Leppard, the drummer from Def Leppard with the one arm.
- 2:35:14Yeah, yeah, I like him too. I like him too.
- 2:35:16Can't remember the names, right? No.
- 2:35:18Not a wrestling match, but. I, I I I I'm not an arm.
- 2:35:22Wrestler, I'm more of a. Mercy.
- 2:35:23He's a, he's an electronic drum guy.
- 2:35:25Yes, I was waiting. I was waiting to hear some Neil
- 2:35:28Perch. Some John Bonham, Yeah.
- 2:35:30Listen, listen. Something like that.
- 2:35:32I. Can't remember names right now
- 2:35:33because my my head is spinning I.
- 2:35:35Mean, I drove almost, I would say in the last five days, I
- 2:35:40drove about 20 something hours. I mean, it's it's enough for me.
- 2:35:43I'm a little tired, you know? He'll do it to you.
- 2:35:46Yeah. But I I try to give him a live,
- 2:35:48you know, personality. By the way, one of our fans
- 2:35:50wanted me to ask you this question.
- 2:35:53O'Connell. Is he on the hot seat?
- 2:35:55More so, yeah, it'll be more so than then before his.
- 2:36:00Relationship with, I think this draft is going to be very
- 2:36:03important for both he and Koici Doflomenza because we have some
- 2:36:07draft equity. We haven't had a ton of it in
- 2:36:08the last couple of years. So we have some holes to fill.
- 2:36:14So for Kevin O'Connell, yeah. And then this is if you look at
- 2:36:19if you look at his record, it's been, you know, double digit
- 2:36:23wins missed the playoffs, double digit wins missed the playoffs.
- 2:36:27And so for him, it starts quarterback position developing
- 2:36:31JJ McCarthy. But you got to have Plan B
- 2:36:33because we talked about earlier, he's played 10 out of 35 games.
- 2:36:36You can't just all of a sudden go into the season like you did
- 2:36:40this year and not have much in the way of a backup plan.
- 2:36:44That's the probably the first thing that they're going to
- 2:36:46correct or at least deal with. And then for him, for Kevin
- 2:36:49O'Connell, you know, keeping Brian Flores around is, is going
- 2:36:54to be huge. Brian Flores will probably end
- 2:36:56up in Pittsburgh if he's going to go somewhere.
- 2:36:58I, I, I love the guy. You hear players complain he's
- 2:37:03too this, he's too tough. It's like they're, they're just
- 2:37:05whining. I mean, I've been around him
- 2:37:07enough. He's, he is a very, very good
- 2:37:12dude. I mean, just, he's a, he's a,
- 2:37:14he's a good guy. Loves talking football, talk
- 2:37:16football with anybody all day long.
- 2:37:20And he's just got to find himself a good offensive
- 2:37:23coordinator. And then and then away, away you
- 2:37:25go and he gets more. We had a top three defense.
- 2:37:28Now we, you know, we played some teams toward the end of the
- 2:37:31season. I think that helped.
- 2:37:34But you end up with the top three defense and, you know, you
- 2:37:37look at that defensive roster and you're kind of like, you
- 2:37:40know, Andrew Van Ginkel, you know, it's, it's who do you?
- 2:37:46There are no huge names. We don't have any perennial Pro
- 2:37:49Bowl players on this defenses. His scheme is just so different.
- 2:37:52He's just so aggressive that a lot of you know, it's, it's a
- 2:37:57problem for teams, especially young quarterbacks to deal with
- 2:38:01all the things that he'll throw at you.
- 2:38:04So now the whole lawsuit with the league and, and all the off
- 2:38:07the field stuff, it's just, you know, it's just going to be a
- 2:38:11matter of 1 of it just takes 1 owner to step up and step out of
- 2:38:14line with the rest of that group and say, you know what, I'm
- 2:38:17going to take a chance on this guy.
- 2:38:18And, and here we go again. So but for Kevin O'Connell,
- 2:38:23getting Brian Flores back is going to be the biggest thing to
- 2:38:27getting him back to double digit wins and playoffs for the
- 2:38:32Vikings next year. Pete, we love you man.
- 2:38:35And I want you to. I'll have speedy reach.
- 2:38:38Out to you. We'll swap numbers.
- 2:38:40We'll talk and I'll send you some articles.
- 2:38:43You read some of them. You tell me what you think and,
- 2:38:46well, we'll text and we'll shoot the.
- 2:38:48You know what? Yeah.
- 2:38:50Absolutely, man. Absolutely.
- 2:38:52Pete. You're great, man.
- 2:38:53Keep up the good work. We love you on the radio.
- 2:38:55And we'll. Be talking very, very soon and
- 2:38:58keep moving up the charts. You know I want you.
- 2:39:00What I'm? Hoping is that someday I'm
- 2:39:02going. To flip on the TV for some
- 2:39:04background noise and then there you'll be Rick Rick Rick it
- 2:39:08you'll be on I have you know sticker on the bottom and I'll
- 2:39:11just. Turn it down like I do.
- 2:39:13Everybody else and just. Leave it up there.
- 2:39:15Come on. Man, you can't turn this down.
- 2:39:17You can't turn me down. I am.
- 2:39:19I have one of the most unique. Crazy voices you'll ever hear on
- 2:39:23radio. And I can do all of this.
- 2:39:26Pete has a quota. How?
- 2:39:27Pete has a quota With how much jet stock it could handle a day.
- 2:39:30Give me that chicken Curry. I need a jet, darling.
- 2:39:34I do have to give a shout. Out to Rick Spielman, who's with
- 2:39:36The Jets. He's helping out.
- 2:39:38Rick. 'S is 1.
- 2:39:39Of is 1. Of the best dudes out there,
- 2:39:40man, he's good he's very good at what he does.
- 2:39:43You know Viking fans will be what about this what about this?
- 2:39:45What it when you're GM that's that's what it's it's all about
- 2:39:48the what abouts and what ifs and and second guessing.
- 2:39:51I mean that's the that's the pretend GM loves loves the
- 2:39:55draft. But yeah, Rick's gonna Rick's
- 2:39:58out there helping out and I hope that I hope things can change.
- 2:40:02I hope you guys can get. Yeah, interception next year.
- 2:40:06All right. Thank you, Pete.
- 2:40:07We love you. I'll talk to you.
- 2:40:09I'll talk to you soon. Thank you.
- 2:40:11Thank you, Pete. Pete Persic, ladies and
- 2:40:14gentlemen, we love him #1 as he puts up the number one, he's
- 2:40:19number one, we love him number one in my heart and #1 hated Jet
- 2:40:24Fan. So there you go.
- 2:40:26Thank you, Pete. All right, we'll see you.
- 2:40:29I love him. Absolutely great.
- 2:40:31One of the best. Personalities.
- 2:40:33And. I saw Jabba.
- 2:40:34Pop out. I think he just.
- 2:40:36Wanted to leave it up to us to get that interview out.
- 2:40:38We'll get Jabba back in because we have the speedy stat of the
- 2:40:43week. The speedy?
- 2:40:47Well, you may run like me. But you hit.
- 2:40:50Like stat. Of the week.
- 2:40:54All right, so we've hinted at it a lot.
- 2:40:55It's a lot of stuff to do with this.
- 2:40:57Insane. Caleb Williams.
- 2:40:58Throw that we've seen pretty much all all throughout the
- 2:41:02show. This is how rare it was for him
- 2:41:04to be able to pull this kind of thing off.
- 2:41:07So 26.5 yards behind the line of scrimmage he was which broke the
- 2:41:12previous record in the Next Gen. Stats era which is 2015 on of 22
- 2:41:16yards behind the line of scrimmage which was done by Josh
- 2:41:19Allen. 51.2 air yards on that throw and a 17.8% completion
- 2:41:25probability for Caleb Williams on that insane just insane 4th
- 2:41:30down touchdown. That will be one of the best
- 2:41:32plays ever in a playoff loss unfortunately for the Bears
- 2:41:36sake. But look how far back he is.
- 2:41:38It's just miracle workers and just how insane it was is
- 2:41:44defined in those steps. No question.
- 2:41:47The one and only Caleb Williams did what he needed to.
- 2:41:50Do and he was sensational. We love you, Kay.
- 2:41:53I mean see or whatever the hell you want to go and look at his
- 2:41:56strong well, look at his beauty. Look at this boom right there in
- 2:41:59the hands of Cole. Commit.
- 2:42:01Beautiful. Speaking of in the hands, the
- 2:42:04NFL Network reports that the Bills have fired the one and
- 2:42:08only head coach Sean McDermott after nine seasons in Buffalo.
- 2:42:12NFL insider Jonathan Jones reports that the Bills can't
- 2:42:15interview any coaches from remaining playoff teams until
- 2:42:20they get eliminated, but can schedule interviews with anybody
- 2:42:23else. Bills offensive coordinator Joe
- 2:42:26Brady could be likely a candidate to replace McDermott,
- 2:42:30but he also has an interview scheduled with the Ravens,
- 2:42:33Raiders and Cardinals as well. Mike McDaniel could also, yes,
- 2:42:37so, but he just signed, so I'm not going to say that I'm going
- 2:42:41to skip that. NFL Network reports that the
- 2:42:44Falcons have named Kevin Stefanski as their next head
- 2:42:49coach a week after naming Matt Ryan their president of football
- 2:42:54operations. The Miami Dolphins have named
- 2:42:58Packers defensive coordinator Jeff Haffley right am I right as
- 2:43:03their next head coach, their 8th consecutive head coach with no
- 2:43:08previous head coaching experience.
- 2:43:10The Tennessee Titans have hired former Jets head coach Robber
- 2:43:14AKA Salah Bambi as their next head coach less than two years
- 2:43:20after being fired by the New York Jets.
- 2:43:25Well, ladies and gentlemen, I am not surprised about Sean
- 2:43:28McDermott getting fired. I'm not.
- 2:43:31I've, I've said this over and over and over again.
- 2:43:35Sean McDermott was really hanging on a thread.
- 2:43:40And after that loss against the Broncos and losing against a
- 2:43:44young quarterback in Bo Nicks after Lamar Jackson, Bo, you
- 2:43:49know, I'm sorry, I forgot the names.
- 2:43:51Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow is out of the
- 2:43:56playoffs. You would have thought that Josh
- 2:43:58Allen would have his easiest path to a Super Bowl and failed
- 2:44:02to do that. McDermott is a great defensive
- 2:44:04mind. There's no question they have
- 2:44:05one of the best pass rushes, pass rushes in the league.
- 2:44:08But failure to win and get this team into the Super Bowl with
- 2:44:12Josh Allen at the prime of his career is going to make that
- 2:44:15happen. As far as coaching candidates,
- 2:44:21you would think that Joe Brady would take this job if he's
- 2:44:24going to get offered this. Why would you want to go to the
- 2:44:27Raiders? Why would you want to go to the
- 2:44:28Cardinals, the Ravens? Interesting thought.
- 2:44:31I, I think the the better pick would be the Bills.
- 2:44:33You know, the quarterback, you know the offense.
- 2:44:36It would make a lot of sense for Joe Brady to stay there and take
- 2:44:38over this team and get his first head coaching job.
- 2:44:41I just don't know if I would go that route.
- 2:44:43Mike McCarthy's the guy that I would go with, with Josh Alley.
- 2:44:47If you want to get over the hump, you want to get to a Super
- 2:44:50Bowl, Mike McCarthy is the guy. I think that this team is
- 2:44:53lacking leadership and I think Mike McCarthy has the ability to
- 2:44:57give that leadership a chance. And, and the reason why I took
- 2:45:00out Mike McDaniel because he signed obviously with the
- 2:45:04Chargers as Tommy Poops gave us that announcement with the old
- 2:45:07NIF so and the Atlanta Falcons signing Stefanski, wonderful,
- 2:45:12wonderful signing. The question is, can he develop
- 2:45:15a quarterback in Michael Pennings when he comes back?
- 2:45:18He's had a problem doing that over there with the Browns.
- 2:45:21The guy is 1 coach of the year back-to-back time.
- 2:45:23Well, not back-to-back but within I think 2:00 in the
- 2:45:26amount of four years he has been one of the elite coaches in the
- 2:45:29NFL. Very surprised the Browns fired
- 2:45:32him, but taking the Atlanta Falcons job, he's got a lot of
- 2:45:36weapons over there. If they bring Kyle Pitts back,
- 2:45:39London, I obviously Bijon Robertson, they have weapons off
- 2:45:43on offensive line that play very well.
- 2:45:45A good young defense now with a great secondary.
- 2:45:48I think he's stacked. I think he has ability to
- 2:45:49automatically win that division this year.
- 2:45:52He's much better than Raheem Morris.
- 2:45:55There's no question that he is. Raheem Morris will never get a
- 2:45:57coaching job again in the NFL. No offense, Raheem, you know,
- 2:46:01obviously a Long Island guy, you know, played for Hofstra, not a
- 2:46:05guy that I would hire as a coach ever again.
- 2:46:07Miami hiring this guy, Jeff Hasley, don't know much about
- 2:46:11him. What I do know is he comes from
- 2:46:13the Packers organization. He is the the defensive
- 2:46:15coordinator. I don't know if this is slam
- 2:46:17dunk. I don't know if this is a double
- 2:46:20or a a single or a triple. Might be a strike out.
- 2:46:23I don't know. But the Dolphins have been known
- 2:46:26to make those mistakes. And why would you fire Mike
- 2:46:29McDaniel to bring in another rookie coach when you had a
- 2:46:32winning coach over there in Miami who was a game changing
- 2:46:35type of coach? So it makes no sense.
- 2:46:37And now, ladies and gentlemen, I saved the best for last, because
- 2:46:41there is no way in. Hell.
- 2:46:44An organization would go this route and bring Bambi Sala in
- 2:46:49after the debacle he left over there in New York.
- 2:46:53Hard Knocks, all the mistakes that he made, all gas, no break
- 2:46:56and all this other garbage that he had.
- 2:46:58And I have a story coming up and going up on the Worldwide Sports
- 2:47:01Radio Network. I'm telling you, it's a must
- 2:47:03read. It will be up tomorrow.
- 2:47:04It's funny. It's definitely a draw and you
- 2:47:07fans will love it. This guy is an absolute joke.
- 2:47:10I feel bad for Cam Ward. I feel bad for him that he has
- 2:47:14to take on this idiot of a head coach.
- 2:47:17This guy has been gone. He took over as a defensive
- 2:47:19coordinator over there with San Francisco.
- 2:47:21He was over there filling in as an offensive coach with the
- 2:47:24Packers last year. How did that help?
- 2:47:27I mean, and then he goes over to San Francisco, had a good year
- 2:47:29and then goes into a playoff run where he lose and gets his not
- 2:47:33his his butt blocked right off or knocked off by 41 to 6
- 2:47:38against a team in Seattle that just completely pulverized him
- 2:47:42as a defensive coordinator. And then you sign him.
- 2:47:44Then you give him a five year deal to have the run of your
- 2:47:47organization. This makes no sense.
- 2:47:49You bring it. You have a young quarterback
- 2:47:51that needs to learn how to be developed.
- 2:47:52Robert Sala has not made the right choices and go ask Michael
- 2:47:55Floor how well, why do you think they gave him five years and
- 2:47:58then keep it shorter. I'll tell you why Cam for.
- 2:48:01Five years you're going to see if Cam Ward is worth.
- 2:48:04That fifth year option and if if Robert Sala fails to get this
- 2:48:08kid that extra contract, Karen Ward will be gone with Robert
- 2:48:12Sala. He is signing his ass over there
- 2:48:15with Cam. That's what he did and he took,
- 2:48:18he took on a big responsibility. He had his quarterback.
- 2:48:21He had his quarterback of choice.
- 2:48:22And Zach Wilson, how long did that last before he was screwing
- 2:48:25somebody else's mom or somebody else's mother's girlfriend?
- 2:48:29I, I don't know. I and Roberts all had no
- 2:48:31control. He's telling people private
- 2:48:33information that was going on after games to broadcasters here
- 2:48:37in New York. This, this is a guy that doesn't
- 2:48:39know how to keep a secret. He was the one that a lot of
- 2:48:41people was believe was squealing to the press on what was going
- 2:48:44on in the locker room. When it was going on with him
- 2:48:46and Garrett Wilson in Aaron Rodgers, who do you think was
- 2:48:49opening his mouth and giving all the feedback?
- 2:48:52It was Robert Solid. And now you have Cam Ward, who I
- 2:48:54I've come to respect. I think the kid is a tremendous
- 2:48:57amount of talent. He's going to fail because this
- 2:49:00guy doesn't know how to pick the right offensive coordinator.
- 2:49:02Go ask Mike Lafleur. He's doing wonders over there
- 2:49:05working with, you know, Sean McVay.
- 2:49:07Isn't he pretty successful over there as what is offensive
- 2:49:10coordinator? Pretty damn good.
- 2:49:12Pretty much a puppet. Yeah, but still pretty damn
- 2:49:14good. It doesn't matter if he's a
- 2:49:15puppet. He's definitely not Robert
- 2:49:17Soller. Kate Bambis fucking puppet.
- 2:49:19I mean seriously, this is pathetic.
- 2:49:22Absolutely pathetic. The Titans made a big mistake.
- 2:49:24Out of all the guys you can interview all the guys.
- 2:49:26John Harbaugh was interested in this job and you're going to
- 2:49:29hire Robert Sala after John Horrible decided to take the
- 2:49:32Giants job? What a joke.
- 2:49:35Reach out to Sean McDermott, Mike McCarthy, any one of those
- 2:49:38guys would have been better. Brian Flores would have been
- 2:49:40better than this idiot. I mean, a Jackass who can't do
- 2:49:44anything right. He is an absolute joke and he
- 2:49:48made everybody here in New York think that this guy was getting
- 2:49:51picked on when the guy was an absolute idiot.
- 2:49:54He didn't know how to run an organization.
- 2:49:56He didn't know how to control personalities in a locker room
- 2:49:58and he died. Definitely does not know how to
- 2:50:01coach a whole football team. What an absolute joke.
- 2:50:05An offseason of absolute shattering moves for the
- 2:50:09Tennessee Titans. With all the draft stack they
- 2:50:10have and all the money they have.
- 2:50:12They could shove it up their ass because Robert Saul is going to
- 2:50:14screw this one up. Yeah, I was mentioning at the
- 2:50:16beginning when we were talking about Black Monday and these
- 2:50:18coaching trends. We've seen a lot of these teams.
- 2:50:20With younger quarterbacks or teams that have longer playoff
- 2:50:23drafts with younger rosters, go after these veteran coaches for
- 2:50:26a sense of stability. I mentioned the Broncos is the
- 2:50:28perfect example. That was Sean Payton.
- 2:50:30Sean Payton it seemed like forever, especially after they
- 2:50:33tried to get Russell Wilson and that failed.
- 2:50:35The Broncos after Peyton Manning retired were good roster that
- 2:50:38didn't have a quarterback for a while.
- 2:50:39Then Russell Wilson actually has a decent year with Sean Payton.
- 2:50:41But again they the situation with him wanting to get benched
- 2:50:45and not all that stuff with the whole buyout of this contract
- 2:50:47and they bring in Bonex and they make the playoffs 2 years in a
- 2:50:49row. Now they're in an AFC
- 2:50:50championship game. I see the Chargers with Jim
- 2:50:53Harbaugh going after, they're replacing Brandon Staley.
- 2:50:55Justin Herbert's a young quarterback.
- 2:50:56Now all of a sudden they're 2 years a row in the playoffs.
- 2:50:59This is the opposite direction that the Titans should be going
- 2:51:02in. I'm not saying never hire a
- 2:51:03defensive coach. I'm, I know Fish was saying that
- 2:51:05in the past like you should stay away from defensive coaches, but
- 2:51:08I, I don't, I don't really have that kind of angle.
- 2:51:11Brian Flores is a much better pick for a culture stabilizer.
- 2:51:14If you want a flashy offensive, there's enough flashy young
- 2:51:17offensive guys out there, go go get a Kubiak.
- 2:51:19Even the Kubiak on the 49ers, the clay, go get him.
- 2:51:23If you want a young quarterback developer, maybe the Titans
- 2:51:25didn't wanted that because of Brian Callahan's failures.
- 2:51:27But then go get a veteran guy. Go get Mike McCarthy like he's a
- 2:51:30quarterback developer. This was awful on so many
- 2:51:33levels. I don't I can't imagine this.
- 2:51:35How did he sell him himself? He's just that good of an
- 2:51:38interviewer apparently. Obviously is Mike.
- 2:51:40McCarthy is a terrible interviewer because he hasn't.
- 2:51:42Gotten a job in two years and. This idiot who you can't even
- 2:51:46understand, you can't even understand how he speaks.
- 2:51:49He's taking receipts and he's going to be taking receipts over
- 2:51:52there because there's a lot of receipts that are not going to
- 2:51:54be able to be cashed over there after he fails.
- 2:51:57And you would think it's AGM. That comes from the Chiefs
- 2:51:59organization too. You would think, Jabba, you're
- 2:52:01muted. You will be.
- 2:52:02Able to learn from that kind of thing too.
- 2:52:06But do you think too some of these moves they they get guys
- 2:52:10based? On what they have on the field,
- 2:52:12like you talk about, you know bringing guys in established or
- 2:52:16whatever. Do do you think when they make
- 2:52:18these decisions they look at what they have to bring like an
- 2:52:23old head in that's been in the game or like get another like
- 2:52:26younger energy guy that they have but who is that for Robert
- 2:52:30Sala. Robert Sala is neither of those
- 2:52:31things. Well, yeah, and and, but that's.
- 2:52:34Where did where do they look at that when they bring somebody in
- 2:52:37like as? We touched on with Harbaugh and
- 2:52:39and what people think is going to happen.
- 2:52:42Do they look at is can he control a clubhouse?
- 2:52:45Can he control a locker room, whatever you want to call it?
- 2:52:48Can he manage his coordinators? He's a puppet, which we haven't
- 2:52:52seen what and is. Is that what they do as well?
- 2:52:55Do. They look at it from top to
- 2:52:57bottom and it's like, you know what, we can control him and
- 2:53:00kind of what we want to do and just and, and he's just a piece
- 2:53:03in the puzzle where he he's not the queen that can do everything
- 2:53:07or the king. That is the end of all.
- 2:53:09You said it. You, you right there, choppy
- 2:53:12you, you gave it. You hit the nail on the coffin.
- 2:53:15And it's a coffin and it's going to be 6 feet under by the time
- 2:53:19Robert Sala touches it. I, I mean, this guy is an
- 2:53:23absolute joke and if you're a Titan fan, I feel bad for you
- 2:53:27guys because I've seen enough of Robert Sala to make you want to
- 2:53:31barf. And this guy does know out does
- 2:53:33not know how to speak to the press.
- 2:53:35He doesn't how he beats around the Bush.
- 2:53:37He doesn't know how to protect players.
- 2:53:39He throws players onto the bus offset of talking to people to
- 2:53:43the media when he shouldn't be speaking to the media.
- 2:53:46When the team tells him to stay away from the media, he goes out
- 2:53:50there and and reports things to me.
- 2:53:52The guy's an idiot. He's not he's not a fit.
- 2:53:54I'm telling you he's not a fit. It's going to be a a big smack
- 2:53:57in the face and unfortunately the Titans are going to regret
- 2:54:00it. Cam Ward's going to regret it.
- 2:54:02I feel bad for the kid yeah. Shifting to the other three
- 2:54:05moves, though, happily with the Dolphins, was interesting
- 2:54:08because. He was one of the higher touted
- 2:54:09defensive guys at the beginning of the coaching process along
- 2:54:12with Jesse Minter. But once all these other
- 2:54:15coaches, Harbaugh and Tom and took leave from their teams.
- 2:54:17Now obviously McDermott, he wasn't even thought of as much
- 2:54:20of the candidate. But Green Bay going over there,
- 2:54:22I guess Miami wanted they think because maybe 2 was going to be
- 2:54:24gone, they're going to have to be more of a defensive team next
- 2:54:27year. We'll see if they can get the
- 2:54:28best of the talent because the talent has been very injury
- 2:54:30prone over there in Miami, but I guess that's what they're
- 2:54:32thinking. They believe 8.
- 2:54:33Chan and Waddle will be the future on offense, but not Tyree
- 2:54:36Killer not to us. So maybe that's the direction
- 2:54:37they want to go in. I agree with on Stefanski.
- 2:54:39I love it for the Falcons. This is a 2 tight end type
- 2:54:42offense that he had with the Browns for a while.
- 2:54:44You get pits and a good rotation of 2nd if they reside pits,
- 2:54:48which it seems like that is the case because they're bringing in
- 2:54:51a guy that's a tight and centric.
- 2:54:52Offense Guy and. Obviously he's going to cost
- 2:54:55more than probably would have thought because he's had a
- 2:54:56great, he had a great year this year.
- 2:54:58So he's going to probably get maybe 15,000,000 a year or
- 2:55:01something like that, but a little bit less maybe, But pay
- 2:55:04up. You have to make it work on that
- 2:55:05offense. Bijan again.
- 2:55:07Nick Schaub worked on that. Offense, look at all the random
- 2:55:09running backs that work on that offense and even Algier in that
- 2:55:11offense with Atlanta too. I I think that's going to be a
- 2:55:13really good move. He's every three years coach of
- 2:55:15the year. Don't be surprised because he
- 2:55:17makes an incident impact on the Atlanta Falcons.
- 2:55:18I love this move. And then McDermott, we'll see.
- 2:55:20I don't think I agree with you. I don't think he gets another
- 2:55:22head coaching job this year. But I think it was time because
- 2:55:25the Bills defense, like I mentioned before, historically
- 2:55:27bad. I think it just got stale and
- 2:55:29predictable after a while. I mentioned when Bursic was on.
- 2:55:32I will say this, if I were The Jets, I would reach out to Sean.
- 2:55:37McDermott and bring him in as my defensive coin?
- 2:55:39Sure. I would do that.
- 2:55:41You bring in a guy, you have a young coach there.
- 2:55:45Sean McDermott is one of the best defensive minds in the NFL
- 2:55:48right now. Even if it's a year as Sean, if
- 2:55:51he'd come in, help Aaron Glenn out, help him get how help him
- 2:55:54in the draft. Help this, help Moji.
- 2:55:57This is a great opportunity with this draft class with the talent
- 2:56:00of draft stock when it comes to defensive lineman.
- 2:56:03This is the draft I bring. I, I they're, they're talking a
- 2:56:07week. Martindale I would reach out to
- 2:56:09Sean McDermott. Absolutely reach out to Sean
- 2:56:11McDermott and see if he would be interested in coming for a year
- 2:56:14or two. I think that makes sense too
- 2:56:16because he's more of a four three and he's an AFC guy zone
- 2:56:19type of defense and. Not that he's as much zone as he
- 2:56:22used to be when he first started with.
- 2:56:23The Bills, but he's. More of closer to what their
- 2:56:25personnel type is than what the Wick Martindale.
- 2:56:28Plus he has coaching experience. Do you think too like him
- 2:56:32staying in the AFC? And being in a division.
- 2:56:36He wants to be a head coach again, obviously, but staying in
- 2:56:40the. Division and seeing.
- 2:56:41What he can do from the other side of the fence, yes, because
- 2:56:45he's been a defensive guy, but you don't want to take a year
- 2:56:47off, right? I I, I think, I think the best
- 2:56:50thing for him to do is to prove his worth you.
- 2:56:53Go over there with Aaron Glenn, who's a a young coach who has no
- 2:56:57experience at that position. And you you go over there as the
- 2:57:00defensive coordinator to a team that you know very, very well
- 2:57:04and a division that you know as good as anybody does to beat
- 2:57:08those quarterbacks and beat those teams.
- 2:57:10I'm absolutely, if I'm the judge, reaching out to Sean
- 2:57:13McDermott and trying to pitch him because guess what?
- 2:57:16If Aaron Glenn gets fired next year, I guess who goes right in
- 2:57:20there as the next head coach? Sean McDermott?
- 2:57:23Yeah. I was just going to bet you that
- 2:57:24that's worst case scenario. And then best case scenario, you
- 2:57:26have a good mentor for somebody like Aaron Glenn.
- 2:57:28A. 100%, I think it makes a lot of sense, yeah, for a guy that
- 2:57:32was in a similar circumstance. Aaron Glenn, obviously coming
- 2:57:35from the the Saints organization.
- 2:57:36That inherited a similar type of defense to what The Jets had, or
- 2:57:39at least had before their trades, obviously, but again,
- 2:57:41still have to an extent with the talent that they have.
- 2:57:44You get a a coach that has a good calming presence, but a
- 2:57:47good relationship with his players like Aaron Glenn with
- 2:57:49McDermott. I think it's a really good fit.
- 2:57:51Shifting back to the Bills, though, you mentioned they have
- 2:57:53to hire a veteran coach. I don't think they have to
- 2:57:54necessarily do an offensive guy. But yeah, they do need somebody
- 2:57:57with experience. McCarthy I do like.
- 2:57:59I also like the idea potentially because I think they do need a
- 2:58:03good game planning defense as well.
- 2:58:05Brian Flores I think could be a good fit over there too because
- 2:58:08he's going to want to stick it to the AFC East because the
- 2:58:10Dolphins, the Patriots and I think they need a game planning
- 2:58:12defense. This is a talented defense.
- 2:58:14My Miami had an awful defense like Pete was mentioning.
- 2:58:17The Vikings don't really have these household names on
- 2:58:19defense. Buffalo, with the talent that
- 2:58:20they have on the top end guy, they need a good game planner
- 2:58:24like Flores. I think that could actually be a
- 2:58:25good fit. There's a lot of questions and
- 2:58:28again, with these coaches and I, we can go back.
- 2:58:31And forth, because we have a long show left, we got a lot of
- 2:58:33baseball to get into. And I don't want to be holding
- 2:58:36on this. But I will say this, if I am The
- 2:58:39Jets organization right now, I'm reaching out to Sean McDermott
- 2:58:42right now. You haven't hired A defensive
- 2:58:44coordinator yet. Sit down, have a conversation
- 2:58:47with him. And if you think that this kid
- 2:58:49is your offensive coordinator, I'd still reach out my Mike
- 2:58:53McCarthy. I'd bring in veteran guys to
- 2:58:55help Aaron Glenn out this year. Help him out, help him develop
- 2:59:00his personality, what he is as a head coach.
- 2:59:03And then if these guys decide to part ways with The Jets in the
- 2:59:06offseason, so be it. If not, you give him one.
- 2:59:09You give one of these guys the job.
- 2:59:11If if, if Aaron Glenn is a failure or he just doesn't know
- 2:59:14how to get to these players. That's just my opinion.
- 2:59:16All right? Save your tears, Mom.
- 2:59:19What's one thing that you can't talk to me about?
- 2:59:22My sexual fantasies. It is not.
- 2:59:27Ideal, but if it's what means it is.
- 2:59:29Not ideal, but if it's just not ideal.
- 2:59:31But if it is, what means? You can't treble stamp a double
- 2:59:34stamp. You can't treble stamp a double
- 2:59:35stamp. Lord, you can't dribble stamp a
- 2:59:37double stamp. Lord, you guys, now it's.
- 2:59:42Time for Save your tears because they don't have tongues.
- 2:59:47I don't know who's chopping off tongues.
- 2:59:49Nowadays. You guys know what that.
- 2:59:52Any lies on the phone? So we're not going to bring him
- 2:59:54in, right? Where was where was the Savior?
- 2:59:56Tongues from. Savior.
- 2:59:57Tongues. Who knows?
- 2:59:59Because they. Don't have tongues?
- 3:00:01Yeah. Playing around with the.
- 3:00:04Soundboard. For your daily lives.
- 3:00:09Yes, there's a lot of daily lives in a lot of these.
- 3:00:11Football players, this was This was the board from.
- 3:00:14Last week, the gross sexual action of cream on daily lives
- 3:00:17that work out for some and not work out for others.
- 3:00:20But you guys, we have a long show.
- 3:00:22Ahead you guys, just quick because naturally beneficial.
- 3:00:25I did win with my advantage again.
- 3:00:27Java, you were second. Good valiant effort.
- 3:00:31Christian McCaffrey letting it down a little bit.
- 3:00:33Don't worry, you still finish ahead of Fish and Tommy.
- 3:00:37You got the bronze this week. I guess we'll have to wait for
- 3:00:39Nathan. 'S compliments for.
- 3:00:41Him to get off the phone. It can wait.
- 3:00:44I don't know if Nathan is ready for this yet.
- 3:00:46Nathan. You could.
- 3:00:47I don't care. Signal in the private.
- 3:00:48Chat whenever you're ready. I guess Errol, you could go
- 3:00:50first for the time being and then we'll go back.
- 3:00:51Oh, how wonderful. Well Speedy with these extra
- 3:00:55points it only. Bears only bulge well for you.
- 3:01:00Any edge that you have only gives you more edge because you
- 3:01:02study this stuff. I don't care.
- 3:01:04I sit here and I just pick whatever I pick.
- 3:01:07Win or lose, it won't matter to me.
- 3:01:08I don't care who wins. But you.
- 3:01:11If you win, lose, draw, kiss somebody'd ass.
- 3:01:15That would be fine with me. I love you, man.
- 3:01:19Can keep up the good work. Don't play with yourself, all
- 3:01:22right? Nothing.
- 3:01:22I don't think it's ready yet. So I guess, Tommy, you're next.
- 3:01:25All right. And Speedy.
- 3:01:27Like you were saying, I mean it's it's tiring.
- 3:01:29Not for you, of course. How does?
- 3:01:31Anyone, it's not tiring for you to be at the top of the hill,
- 3:01:33but it's tiring for us of course to.
- 3:01:35Keep on giving you this. Compliments.
- 3:01:37But no, it's not tiring at all, of course.
- 3:01:38But dude, you of course did it. You are the divisional week
- 3:01:42champion and you know, I know, of course we're going to have
- 3:01:44something next week for conference championship.
- 3:01:47But man, you keep doing everything you do every week in,
- 3:01:50week out. Especially on the show.
- 3:01:51And especially within the Savior tears, you really honestly do
- 3:01:55everything correct the right way.
- 3:01:57And like what Errol said, these points are giving you an
- 3:02:00advantage that you're obviously kicking all of our asses in.
- 3:02:03So Congrats again, Speedy. All right, thank you so much.
- 3:02:06And I think, I guess Nathan will have to give it to me in the.
- 3:02:09The private chat because he's on the phone right now.
- 3:02:12So Jabba, you rounded out. I don't drink a lot of milk.
- 3:02:14No, I don't. Yeah, no, I don't drink a lot of
- 3:02:17milk either. Speedy I want to go after.
- 3:02:20You just because it always. Makes sense.
- 3:02:22And now that you get extra points, I'm like toilet paper
- 3:02:26bringing up the rear and it it, it, it just doesn't end.
- 3:02:31And you're always going to be. At the top of that.
- 3:02:33Mountain and we rely on you for a lot of stuff and we know why
- 3:02:39you're the best because you stand on that mountain
- 3:02:42everywhere. A little bit paper bringing up
- 3:02:46the rear, that'll be your most huge drop off.
- 3:02:48For the month of February, Java. The dude wipes will take his
- 3:02:53back seat to that now. No, I would rush from the
- 3:02:55hospital. I mean they coincide with each
- 3:02:58other a little bit. They do, I don't.
- 3:03:00Care, let's not save your tears. Nath is like, I don't know what
- 3:03:11Nath is doing over there. Probably playing with himself.
- 3:03:14I'll give him my my private chat.
- 3:03:16Couple of that's how you saved, yeah.
- 3:03:19Because the word jizz is really structural.
- 3:03:21All right, when we come back, we got Jabba rules, Dodgers side
- 3:03:24Kyle Tucker and. We're going to pivot as the Mets
- 3:03:27pivot to somebody else overpaid player that can't stay healthy a
- 3:03:32lot more. Any questions?
- 3:03:34We're back. This is the Jabba and the Mouth
- 3:03:37show. Where's going?
- 3:03:5099% of the world. Was years ago 631-672-3108 is
- 3:04:01the. Number of just spit all over.
- 3:04:02Everything. All of everything it was like it
- 3:04:05just flopped right out of that stomach of mine.
- 3:04:08It just have you ever heard that word flop?
- 3:04:10It's not in that context, definitely not flopped.
- 3:04:14It flopped all over you. That's my.
- 3:04:16New. Word tonight, generation to
- 3:04:18generation as more legitimate than your Moses DNA.
- 3:04:21That's exactly that one back. Yes, I did.
- 3:04:25You're listening to Jabba. In the mouth.
- 3:04:27My name is Errol Marx, my Co host Mr. Jabba Chamberlain.
- 3:04:30You know who he is, Speedy PD executive producer Mr. Aaron
- 3:04:34Fish. Fishman is flying in the air.
- 3:04:36Happy birthday to Aaron. We love you man.
- 3:04:39We'll hear his crazy ass on Thursday on the board.
- 3:04:43Tummy poops and the back end. All definitely back, back, back
- 3:04:47end. Hopefully he's not taking it up
- 3:04:50the, you know, butt plug. Anyways, ladies and gentlemen,
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- 3:05:14radio Network. Speedy, I just did one of you.
- 3:05:16I was like swallowing on my phlegm and I was, I got caught
- 3:05:19in the throat. It was like, yeah, you know it
- 3:05:23definitely. It's like a flim wall.
- 3:05:24You brought something back from Canada, apparently something I
- 3:05:27caught the speedy he wants to go burn a Bush in a.
- 3:05:29Crab. Oh, something.
- 3:05:30I don't think they have crabs. In Canada I don't know anyways
- 3:05:33not. Stopping you from doing it.
- 3:05:35No, you haven't. Anyways, ladies and gentlemen.
- 3:05:37We call this. Jabba rules.
- 3:05:43Rules. Rules that.
- 3:05:46We we've. Covered in this and I haven't
- 3:05:49got my Nebraska in. Yet.
- 3:05:51But we're going to get Nebraska basketball in on this Java
- 3:05:55rules. By the way, we are 18 and O we
- 3:06:01are. We have.
- 3:06:02Won our last 22. Games the longest in college
- 3:06:07basketball right now, we are the highest.
- 3:06:10Ranking that we've. Ever had at this university at
- 3:06:15#7 before that it was. 1966. That we were ranked #8 we're
- 3:06:23going to have a little bit of an uphill climb here coming in a
- 3:06:26few weeks. But what rules is?
- 3:06:29Nebraska Ball rules because we are in the top 10.
- 3:06:34And. Nobody had ever thought Nebraska
- 3:06:36would be a basketball school. And I.
- 3:06:39Stand on Nebraska and I always will.
- 3:06:42And now I have. Something to root for because.
- 3:06:44Our football team has let me down for a lot of years.
- 3:06:48Don't share a poutang pie with the.
- 3:06:57Rock, you guys watch our team play?
- 3:06:58Yes, I've been watching. I've.
- 3:07:00Seen a few this year not. As much as I usually watch
- 3:07:03college. Basketball, I haven't watched as
- 3:07:05much. This year, but I saw in the
- 3:07:08recent Bracketology, you guys were a three seed.
- 3:07:10Yeah, some of us, they have us in one in the Midwest.
- 3:07:16We got a tough. We got a tough stretch.
- 3:07:18We got Washington tomorrow and then we go Michigan, Illinois or
- 3:07:24we go Minnesota on the road, which Minnesota's record isn't
- 3:07:27great, but they've been in games with Michigan.
- 3:07:31They were ahead of Michigan and then we got Michigan at home.
- 3:07:35Then we got to play Illinois at our.
- 3:07:40Our place. Then we got Rutgers, which
- 3:07:43that'll be a dub. And then we've got Purdue.
- 3:07:46So it's it's going to be it's going to be a stretch, but we
- 3:07:51have never won. And like I said in what's your
- 3:07:55call? And you know, I'm going to get a
- 3:07:57booty lick because we've never won.
- 3:08:01I never heard of a skin flute. And it's.
- 3:08:04It's going to happen. And I love it.
- 3:08:07And one of. Carter's.
- 3:08:08Buddies probably won't win freshman of the year, but he's
- 3:08:12going to be a freshman All American #5.
- 3:08:14Braden Frager. So if you guys watch a game,
- 3:08:17watch him, No. And so, yeah, he hooped with
- 3:08:21Carter. And so it's fun.
- 3:08:23So. We're vested.
- 3:08:23And. It's cool to see when you don't
- 3:08:27expect a program like that, and it's always.
- 3:08:30Nice, I. Wouldn't say Cinderella because
- 3:08:32Fred Hoiberg has done it with Iowa State.
- 3:08:35Wasn't the best with the Bulls, I'll give him that.
- 3:08:38It wasn't great in the tournament, too.
- 3:08:39I know I picked them a lot and with Iowa savings or not.
- 3:08:45So, yeah, So what? We're the only school that's.
- 3:08:47Never won a. Game.
- 3:08:49In March Madness. Wow.
- 3:08:51And like I said, it is documented.
- 3:08:54It's gonna happen. Speaking.
- 3:08:56Of happened ESP NS Jeff Passan. Jeff Passan reports that the
- 3:09:02Dodgers have signed Kyle Tucker. To a four.
- 3:09:05Year $240 million deal The deal includes $30 million in deferred
- 3:09:09money, opts out after opt outs, after Year 2 and Year 3 and has
- 3:09:16an average annual value of 57.1 million per year, breaking Mr.
- 3:09:23Juan Soto's record of 51 million per year.
- 3:09:27The Dodgers also gave Tucker a signing bonus of 64,000,000 and
- 3:09:32a $54 million. Fifty, $4 million of that will
- 3:09:37be paid up front. ESP NS Kylie McDaniel reports
- 3:09:43that the Blue Jays offered him a 11 year, $418 million deal, and
- 3:09:47we're the only team that offered him a deal more than five years.
- 3:09:51McDaniel adds that the Mets were willing to sign Tucker for $50
- 3:09:57million per year, but many baseball executives never
- 3:10:00believed that Tucker wanted to play in New York.
- 3:10:04Well, here's the facts guys. This is a catastrophe, it's bad,
- 3:10:11and I know Jabba's going to be behind it and argue.
- 3:10:14This that, hey. You know what actually, this way
- 3:10:17you finish. But I'm you're going to, you're
- 3:10:19going to be surprised with what I tell you.
- 3:10:22The deferred money thing needs to change.
- 3:10:24This is ruined the game of baseball.
- 3:10:26It really. Has, and as much as a lot of
- 3:10:29people say, well, guess what, it's been in baseball for a long
- 3:10:31time, I believe the Dodgers have perfected it.
- 3:10:35I think the Dodgers have figured out a way to use this to their
- 3:10:39advantage to hurt everybody else but themselves.
- 3:10:43And I think that you look at this Tucker move and there's a
- 3:10:46lot of questions to it. And they had a lot of
- 3:10:49deficiencies out of the out in the outfield, a lot of
- 3:10:51weaknesses. Now they don't.
- 3:10:52They had one of the best power hitters at in the outfield.
- 3:10:55Now in Kyle Tucker, who can defend.
- 3:10:57He can play multiple positions out there.
- 3:11:00Not the best defender, but a guy that can absolutely defend at
- 3:11:04that position. I, I think to me, when you look
- 3:11:08at Edwin Diaz and all the, the, the offseason moves, you wonder
- 3:11:12if baseball needs to step in. I don't know if there's going to
- 3:11:15be a salary cap. I, I do believe there is going
- 3:11:17to be a baseball strike. I think the owners are going to
- 3:11:19step in and do something about this.
- 3:11:21I think the Dodgers have put themselves in a position where
- 3:11:24they can win another title and obviously right off into the
- 3:11:28sunset when they does go on strike, after this year, when
- 3:11:32the strike is going to allow the league to decide if they're
- 3:11:36going to continue playing or are they going to sit out for a
- 3:11:38significant amount of time. I I think this hurts baseball.
- 3:11:42I do. And the fact is, is that he
- 3:11:44didn't want to go to New York. He didn't want to deal with the
- 3:11:46New York press, the media. He's a quiet guy.
- 3:11:48He played for the Astros. He went to the Cubs.
- 3:11:50Even though the Cubs are a loud organization, they're not as bad
- 3:11:53of a media place than New York. And the Blue Jays are just not a
- 3:12:00very good organization. I know what they did last year.
- 3:12:02I know a lot of people think, oh, they're making moves now.
- 3:12:05And they signed their big time bopper.
- 3:12:08They gave them that extension that really will settle, settle
- 3:12:12in as we watch it, as it gets heavier and in the next 5 to 6
- 3:12:16years and put them in a drought of just absolute turbulence.
- 3:12:21The the Blue Jays had the chance to win and they failed.
- 3:12:24They were never getting a Tucker.
- 3:12:26They were never. It was either the Yankee step in
- 3:12:29and offer him a boatload of money because the Yankees, I
- 3:12:31think he would have bought into it because it is Yankees.
- 3:12:34It's pinstripes or it was the Dodgers.
- 3:12:37I, I, I, I was surprised that he didn't choose the Mets.
- 3:12:41But let's be honest, the Mets are a stupid organization, a
- 3:12:44losing organization hasn't won since 1986.
- 3:12:47Why would he go to an organization that fails to get
- 3:12:50the right players and everything that they've done so far?
- 3:12:53If you look, if you were, if you were Tucker right now and you
- 3:12:55watch the moves that the Mets made and you look at Polanco
- 3:12:58moving the first base who's never played that position
- 3:13:00before in his life, does that bode well for the New York Mets
- 3:13:04going into a season? The answer was would be no.
- 3:13:06Kyle Tucker had no interest. I guess I thought Kyle Tucker
- 3:13:09was going to the Mets. It made a lot of sense. 50
- 3:13:12something, $1,000,000. He was going to get a lot of
- 3:13:14money and the Mets were going to give him what he wanted it.
- 3:13:17It was never going to happen. So my take on the Kyle Tucker
- 3:13:20thing, because we have the Beau Bichette thing after you guys,
- 3:13:22your your take is this is a catastrophe for the league.
- 3:13:26The league needs to do something during the strike time.
- 3:13:30They need to step in and figure out how to control this deferred
- 3:13:33money. I wrote an article article about
- 3:13:35this job. I sent it to you.
- 3:13:36I sent it to a lot of guys. I think baseball needs to look
- 3:13:40at what I kind of like put and implemented in when I was in
- 3:13:43Montreal and look at it that way for it to help the game and
- 3:13:48define the understanding what deferred money can or shouldn't
- 3:13:51do for a team. Yeah, it's interesting because I
- 3:13:54thought for once Bregman was signing with the Cubs.
- 3:13:56I always thought, I always thought Cubs were going to.
- 3:13:58Get Tucker back anyway. But I thought even more
- 3:14:00incentive for them to try to be creative and get either more
- 3:14:03deferred money or like the Dodgers did an extra signing
- 3:14:05bonus, stuff like that. There's ways to manipulate
- 3:14:07contracts that maybe you don't realize just because of the
- 3:14:10payroll discrepancies. Just because MLB doesn't have a
- 3:14:12salary cap, you're looking at the NFL.
- 3:14:14How can we manipulate the cap? We joke about with the Saints
- 3:14:16all the time. They've been manipulating the
- 3:14:18cap for 10 years now. They're in debt.
- 3:14:19And the, the the Cubs, I thought had a good leeway to do that.
- 3:14:23And the Blue Jays, because of the way that they could defer
- 3:14:26money. And you saw the Blue Jays do it
- 3:14:28with Cease and it looked like there was finally a direction to
- 3:14:31go in. And then all of a sudden, we go
- 3:14:32back to this now, and all of a sudden, the Dodgers are just
- 3:14:34taking back over where, Yeah, maybe there's a spawning point
- 3:14:37where there has to be some restrictions with how either how
- 3:14:40much you can defer, how many players can be deferred at this
- 3:14:43point. Because as long as there's no
- 3:14:45salary cap, I don't think you're going to have that rule
- 3:14:48completely taken away because there's enough guys already
- 3:14:51dealing with it. But there has to be restrictions
- 3:14:53on it. The Dodgers maybe because they
- 3:14:55already have six or seven guys on it, can't do it for another
- 3:14:58five years. They're going to be doing this
- 3:14:59favor. Yeah.
- 3:15:00And that's where it's tricky. Like what?
- 3:15:02What rule makes sense to be fair?
- 3:15:03To both parties. What rule makes sense?
- 3:15:06We will never see another World Series champion if this
- 3:15:09continues to be allowed to be going on in.
- 3:15:11Baseball. The Dodgers are always going to
- 3:15:13be in the driving seat to get whoever and whatever they want
- 3:15:16because what they're doing is they have talked to these
- 3:15:19players. These players understand what
- 3:15:21they're trying to do and how they're doing it.
- 3:15:23And it's it's working because they've got everybody buying
- 3:15:26into it. A whole organization needs to
- 3:15:29buy into this for the to work. It's not working.
- 3:15:32Everybody says, well, all the other organizations could do it.
- 3:15:34Not necessarily when all the other players are not buying
- 3:15:37into it, They're buying into it. They had Mookie Betts, they had
- 3:15:41Friedman, they have all these guys, Ohtani, Everybody's buying
- 3:15:44into this move, Snell, everybody because they have a chance.
- 3:15:48Hey, listen, you're still going to get your money, You're still
- 3:15:49going to win, still have a chance to do it in the bright
- 3:15:52lights of LA and you're still going to get the money at the
- 3:15:55tail end of your career anyway. So you guys are going to be
- 3:15:57laughing all the way to the bank and making all the endorsements
- 3:16:00because we're going to be winning.
- 3:16:01And Tucker's case is different, I think, because 60 million I
- 3:16:04think was above any worse expectations of the market.
- 3:16:07Value of how long it took him him to sign too.
- 3:16:09And Tucker is another one, like a lot of the other guys besides
- 3:16:12Freeman, who was obviously traded over there, weren't ring
- 3:16:14chasing at that time because Otani obviously never played in
- 3:16:17the playoffs. And all the other guys were
- 3:16:18Japanese comb overs. And Tucker signed this one for
- 3:16:23the money, I think exclusively and all the signing bonuses and
- 3:16:26all that stuff. But still going to the Dodgers.
- 3:16:28He was getting more with the Blue Jays.
- 3:16:29He signed. He signed for winning a
- 3:16:33championship. Wins.
- 3:16:34That's all he signed for and he knows he's going to get money
- 3:16:37one way or another. He can opt out of it after a
- 3:16:40second or third year if he doesn't want to be there, he's
- 3:16:42not getting enough playing time or they're treating him like
- 3:16:44crap. He can opt out and he still
- 3:16:46gets, you know, a boatload of money right up front.
- 3:16:49He is living it large and the and and the Dodgers could do
- 3:16:52this because they have, you know, finagled money to, you
- 3:16:57know, hideaway for the next 12 years.
- 3:16:59Thank you to Otani and and all the other doofuses.
- 3:17:02So I, I just, it hurts baseball. I don't care what anybody says,
- 3:17:06it hurts baseball. And the reason I say it's about
- 3:17:08because I just think the market value is that much higher.
- 3:17:10I think the Blue Jays was probably slightly above the.
- 3:17:12Market value, the total money obviously was more before 18,
- 3:17:15but with the AAV, that's a lot. All right, Java, you're up.
- 3:17:19Fire away at the deferred money. I took a step back honestly, and
- 3:17:24I really tried to look. At what the game is as it
- 3:17:30stands. And I sat on this for a minute
- 3:17:34and I've thought about what you guys have said, Ariel,
- 3:17:36especially where I'm kind of I'm in a rock and a hard place.
- 3:17:44Honestly. And if.
- 3:17:46I'm being perfectly honest where I understand what they're doing
- 3:17:50and you're chasing championships.
- 3:17:52I I, I get that. And at the end of the day, what
- 3:17:55do you want to you, you want to have a legacy of winning?
- 3:17:59Yeah, you can have a lot of money in your bank account, but
- 3:18:02that only goes so far. If you truly love.
- 3:18:04This game, what do you want to do?
- 3:18:05You want to win, and so why? In between a rock and a hard
- 3:18:10spot. Is because.
- 3:18:13When it comes down to winning, where do you want to go?
- 3:18:18That's an easy answer. Are they hurting the game?
- 3:18:21The. Aspect of what they do.
- 3:18:23Yeah, they're paying. Two guys.
- 3:18:26More money than 10 whole organizations.
- 3:18:31They're paying $186.5 million in luxury tax.
- 3:18:35Can we can we kind of change that?
- 3:18:38We've kind of seen it in the. Past with the Marlins when?
- 3:18:40They weren't paying any money and then they they had that year
- 3:18:43where they signed Burley and Jose Reyes and we've seen how
- 3:18:47that worked, but they were just doing it because they were kind
- 3:18:50of their hand. Was forced to do it.
- 3:18:53But I think what this does and I don't think you're.
- 3:18:56Wrong. Here I think this.
- 3:18:58Is pushing towards a lockout because what are you really
- 3:19:02doing? Like if everybody's just going
- 3:19:05to go there and take all the deferred money?
- 3:19:09I don't think deferred money is wrong, but Speedy, I think you
- 3:19:13you kind of touched. On it a little bit.
- 3:19:15Where it's like, OK, you can have five, you can have 4,
- 3:19:18whatever that number is. I don't know what the magical
- 3:19:25the potion is of figuring this out.
- 3:19:27It's the same thing we talked about with the colleges like.
- 3:19:29How much you? Defer to 1 program versus the
- 3:19:32other. Right.
- 3:19:34And so for me, it's like, do you have a salary cap or do you have
- 3:19:38a salary? Floor.
- 3:19:40Like how? How do you defer those things
- 3:19:44in? What they?
- 3:19:45Do and I'm a baseball. To and.
- 3:19:51Through with everything and is Kyle Tucker a $60 million
- 3:19:56player? I said this, he's not, but I
- 3:19:58will never fault to do for taking his money and get the bag
- 3:20:01and and take it all the way to the bank.
- 3:20:04But when you're an outside guy just looking at it and it's
- 3:20:09like, oh, they're just doing this.
- 3:20:10They're paying to. And that's truly genuine that
- 3:20:14they are. But you also want to have that
- 3:20:16legacy of winning and being a part of something special.
- 3:20:21But I think it is really hurting the game in the way.
- 3:20:25The game is perceived. Now, because we're trying to
- 3:20:28create a younger audience and it's it's solely devoted now to
- 3:20:32money, where I think the caveat for me, where baseball is pure,
- 3:20:40you play it because you love it. And you have those.
- 3:20:43Guys, you look at the air and judges of the world took less
- 3:20:46money when he could have got more money.
- 3:20:50And that's where the part of it it's like I always, I, I want
- 3:20:54everybody. To make as much money as they
- 3:20:55can take. Care of their family, take care
- 3:20:57of their grandkids. Long time.
- 3:21:00But what it takes away from what my love is for this game is the
- 3:21:07authenticity of it and for. Me it's it's it's starting.
- 3:21:12To be taken away. And I don't like that.
- 3:21:16I don't like the fact that I'm like.
- 3:21:18Holy crap. This lineup.
- 3:21:21Is. The the best.
- 3:21:24Lineup we've ever. Seen.
- 3:21:27I mean, we can talk Murderers Row.
- 3:21:28We can talk all kinds of lineups, but when you look at
- 3:21:33what these guys are in their value of what they could be for.
- 3:21:36Each individual team. And I know people are going to
- 3:21:38argue that they didn't want to give Freddie a six year deal.
- 3:21:41They didn't want to, you know, pay Mookie.
- 3:21:43He left Boston and like, we can give all these exams.
- 3:21:46Well, Freeman, Freeman, the Braves got robbed because their
- 3:21:50agent didn't tell him. The Braves.
- 3:21:51Offer. I think Freddie said he would
- 3:21:53have matched it if they gave him the same offer.
- 3:21:55Yeah. And but they're doing things
- 3:21:59that everybody obviously says that.
- 3:22:01Everybody can do. And yes, it's been going on a
- 3:22:02long time, but you said it, Errol.
- 3:22:06It's like they found the perfect way to do it and created like we
- 3:22:12creating video games when we were kids.
- 3:22:14You create a dynasty. They're a video game right now.
- 3:22:20They're a damn video game. That is what it is.
- 3:22:24And it's I, I feel like, and I've never thought I would say
- 3:22:28this, I feel like it's taking away the integrity of the game.
- 3:22:34And I hate that because I love the parody.
- 3:22:37I love dark horses, I love the Cinderella story, I love all
- 3:22:42that stuff. But it's hard to combat that
- 3:22:45when you see a dynasty lineup and you've got multiple MVPS.
- 3:22:53Quite possibly the best player in the world that we've ever
- 3:22:55seen. And they're all on one.
- 3:22:58Team. So for me as a player, I go
- 3:23:02against that. It's like what the?
- 3:23:03Hell am I supposed to do? And I think it it it they need
- 3:23:08to find a way to combat. This I think.
- 3:23:11Speedy, I think that might be a thing.
- 3:23:14I think it's going to be a lock up.
- 3:23:16Do I think we lose the entire 27 season?
- 3:23:19I hope not. But if they don't find a way to
- 3:23:23be like, OK, you can defer money.
- 3:23:26You obviously can't backtrack now, you can't like so whatever
- 3:23:29it is, but OK if so, the Dodgers are at that limit.
- 3:23:34OK, you can't defer any more money, money amount or yeah and
- 3:23:39like we've talked about with with college and and how we do
- 3:23:42that and. I was sitting here and just
- 3:23:47reading stories. And I was just kind of shaking
- 3:23:50my head because never thought I would feel this way.
- 3:23:55Because I love what? Baseball is at its at its soul
- 3:24:00and at its heart, but I think it's changing and the integrity
- 3:24:04of the game has changed and now it it's it's solely focused on
- 3:24:10different things than what this game should be focused on.
- 3:24:15And that hurts my heart a little bit because I love this game
- 3:24:19near and dear and it provides every day.
- 3:24:23I get to walk my son and it's Kyle Tucker's a great player.
- 3:24:28All these guys are great players getting this money.
- 3:24:32How long is it going to take? Paul Skeens gets a free agency.
- 3:24:35Paul Skeens is a. Billion.
- 3:24:36Dollar player. If we're basing it.
- 3:24:39On right now. Because these guys.
- 3:24:42Kyle Tucker's getting $60 million, essentially.
- 3:24:47Otani's getting 70 Which? I will agree Otani probably
- 3:24:51should get more than. Everybody because he does two
- 3:24:53things that. Nobody else does.
- 3:24:57But when you have all of these deferred and we've seen
- 3:25:00Bregman's contract, Bregman's was a little bit deferred, yes,
- 3:25:04but the integrity. Of the game has changed.
- 3:25:07Because the way that they can do things, I just think it's going
- 3:25:13to. Be an argument.
- 3:25:15When it comes to the next CBA of how do we maintain the integrity
- 3:25:21of the game where we don't have shit?
- 3:25:24To talk about. During baseball, because it's
- 3:25:27like, all right, I know the game is not played on paper and I've
- 3:25:29said that before, but realistically, if we're going
- 3:25:34right now, who the Hell's beating the Dodgers?
- 3:25:36Like who it is their training staff.
- 3:25:39I will say this and I that's the only thing that's going to beat.
- 3:25:43Them. Is somebody them?
- 3:25:44Getting hurt Speaking of a team that got screwed.
- 3:25:47Is the. Mets and they.
- 3:25:48Signed Beau Bichette to a three-year 126 million.
- 3:25:51Dollar deal with a player option for a year one and year 2.
- 3:25:56No deferred money and an average annual of 42,000,000 per year.
- 3:25:59Reports say that the Phillies were ready to give Beau Pichette
- 3:26:03A7 year $200 million deal and Dave Dabrowski was blindsided by
- 3:26:08the Mets and made a panic move to steal him.
- 3:26:13Both the Dodgers and the Mets are over the luxury tax
- 3:26:17threshold and the Mets payroll is 414 million and the Dodgers
- 3:26:23are 571,000,000, meaning that the Mets would have to pay $95
- 3:26:28million in penalties and the Dodgers would have to pay 120
- 3:26:31million in penalties here. Here's what I'm going to say
- 3:26:35quickly about this. I don't know what the Mets
- 3:26:38organization is doing. I don't know what David Stearns
- 3:26:40is doing. I I have no idea if, if you're a
- 3:26:43Mets fan, you cannot be happy with this contract.
- 3:26:46This guy, Beau Bichette, who can't stay healthy, is making
- 3:26:48more money than average Judge, who is arguably the best player
- 3:26:52in the league right now. Think about that.
- 3:26:54This man is making more than Aaron Judge and Aaron Judge was.
- 3:26:58How many MVPS has he won? I mean, this guy's never won and
- 3:27:01MVP has never done anything. And as good as his father was
- 3:27:05and as good as he is in some parts of his game, this guy does
- 3:27:09not deserve 42,000,000 a year. Now, I'm not going to question
- 3:27:12the money that he's getting. I'm not going to question any of
- 3:27:15that. The Mets brought in not one, not
- 3:27:172, not 3, but four infielders this offseason, and they're
- 3:27:22going to move two of them to the outfield.
- 3:27:23One of them never played one position in the infield in
- 3:27:26Polanco at first. What is David Stearns doing?
- 3:27:30What is it going to take for Met, the Mets organization and
- 3:27:35Uncle Stevie to realize that this guy is a screw up?
- 3:27:38He is. He doesn't have a game plan.
- 3:27:40He's just bringing in players that makes sense.
- 3:27:42And if he if he hits, he's going to be a genius.
- 3:27:45If he misses, he should be fired.
- 3:27:47But because he's a butt buddy, if Dave, Uncle Stevie, he's
- 3:27:51going to keep his job. This is a bad, bad thing.
- 3:27:54Met fans. You cannot sit here and tell me
- 3:27:56Beau Bichette is a slam dunk. He can't stay healthy.
- 3:28:00He's an overpriced, overpaid infielder who is now going to be
- 3:28:04moved to the outfield to which he's never played before in his
- 3:28:06career. It makes no sense.
- 3:28:08It's an absolute joke. And the Mets should be really
- 3:28:12being smacked. They should be smacked in the
- 3:28:14face. They failed to get Tucker, so
- 3:28:16they reached on Beau Bichette. Yeah, we even heard it last week
- 3:28:19from Laura Albany. She was like, oh, the Mets have
- 3:28:21900 outfield infielders and only two outfielders, 2 outfielders.
- 3:28:25But she was sticking up for them because she's a writer and she's
- 3:28:27a beat. OK.
- 3:28:28But she did mention that the extremity is a big difference
- 3:28:31where you haven't signed. Besides Devin Williams, any
- 3:28:33other like pictures of any? Notoriety in this offseason,
- 3:28:37even Devin Williams is coming off a.
- 3:28:38Bad year, you got all these infielders. 2 guys are not going
- 3:28:42to be playing out of place, whether it's Bichette, which is
- 3:28:43probably going to be him, them out of place playing third, or
- 3:28:46Bob Bouchette experiments in the outfield.
- 3:28:48I know Java, you did mention that maybe it works, But again,
- 3:28:50you're banking $42 million on that.
- 3:28:53Yeah. Dave Dombrowski, I hate to
- 3:28:54praise him 'cause I don't think he's great either, but he's
- 3:28:56right in this sense. Like, why can't?
- 3:28:58Why wouldn't the Mets let the Phillies, who've already paid a
- 3:29:01lot in their own infield as it is, give Bichette 7 years, 200
- 3:29:04million when they have Trey Turner, a bunch of other guys in
- 3:29:06these big contracts when the Mets could get two.
- 3:29:09I'm not saying amazing pitchers, but two decent starting pitchers
- 3:29:12at 20 and 25,000,000 a year. It just doesn't make any sense.
- 3:29:16And you're going to hope that these guys can pitch for
- 3:29:18strikeouts because their infield defense is not going to be
- 3:29:20horrible. Horrible move for the New York
- 3:29:24Mets. They're going to, I think, I
- 3:29:26think it's you said panic move or whatever.
- 3:29:29And then Dave came out and. Said we're good.
- 3:29:31With what we are right now. I think it was.
- 3:29:35It was. Weird on on a lot of levels.
- 3:29:38For me, the consistency factor that he's going to make more
- 3:29:43than Francisco Lindor doesn't really make sense to me because
- 3:29:47he hasn't been on the field enough to.
- 3:29:49Prove and then now he's. Going to go out of position
- 3:29:51because he came out and that that's part of the reason
- 3:29:55because he knew he wasn't going to get the money playing the
- 3:29:57position. That's why he said I'm open to
- 3:30:00playing second base wherever, hopefully, and for you at the
- 3:30:06Mets fan, speedy, I'm sorry, but you're not going to get your
- 3:30:10value in what he is because he has not proven it.
- 3:30:13He. Came out at the.
- 3:30:14Right time. Timing is a lot of things we've
- 3:30:16looked, we've seen a lot of guys do this, have a great year.
- 3:30:18Carbovano from the Twins to the Yankees getting the $45 million
- 3:30:23deal like and he was not great, but he had a he had a great out
- 3:30:27year. And that's what if you have a
- 3:30:28great out year and, and your crowd is low because it was
- 3:30:33outfielders and you had Bregman and then as Bichette and then it
- 3:30:37was pitchers. So you you are a different
- 3:30:40commodity and if and. If you think.
- 3:30:42About stocks and trading Well, if you're a.
- 3:30:45Hot commodity, that. There's nothing else.
- 3:30:48Going in you're. Going to get that is, is he is
- 3:30:51he worth 42,000,000? No, and I don't talk.
- 3:30:56I'm not talking trash that he's not a great player because he
- 3:30:59is. He's in the big leagues, but
- 3:31:02he's not 42. I'll say the same thing by Kyle
- 3:31:04Tucker. He's not 60.
- 3:31:06Do they deserve to get paid? Yes.
- 3:31:08Are there a lot of guys that should get paid that amount
- 3:31:11that? Are way better that aren't.
- 3:31:12Getting paid that. Yes, Java.
- 3:31:14Think about this, I know you. Like this guy, so I know.
- 3:31:17You would want the Mets to pay him Framber Valdez.
- 3:31:19You pay him 30 something million a year and then you pay Zach
- 3:31:22Gallander saying on a down year, maybe 20 million a year you get.
- 3:31:24Two good punchers. The same thing is under score is
- 3:31:27like give me give me those post season stats.
- 3:31:30Give me that like that contract was probably the best one that's
- 3:31:34came out this. Offseason for me personally
- 3:31:37because you get what he is. He's going to give you 150
- 3:31:40innings. 200's not the marketing.
- 3:31:43That. Used to be he's going to give
- 3:31:44you estimated 154 this year. He's going to win you double
- 3:31:48figure games, but he's going to be a beast in the playoffs.
- 3:31:52That was a great signing for me. Bullshit is not a great signing
- 3:31:55for me because you don't know what you're going to get.
- 3:31:59Is he going to be hurt? Is he going to play?
- 3:32:00You got to be on the field. He's getting 42.
- 3:32:04New position. New team, new dynamic, new
- 3:32:07clubhouse. Is he going?
- 3:32:08To try and step in. Because now you've demolished
- 3:32:12that clubhouse and all you have is Frankie and Soda.
- 3:32:16You went from one of the old, one of the youngest teams to now
- 3:32:19one of the middle age teams in league.
- 3:32:22You brought Polanco in, he's what, 33 years old?
- 3:32:24You brought in a A. 2nd baseman. Who's 36?
- 3:32:28I, I think you're reaching I, I, I think the Mets are reaching I,
- 3:32:32I and I reaching the understatement.
- 3:32:35I don't know what's going on. If I speedy, speedy if if they
- 3:32:39were going to get this deal, you as a Mets fan and as smart as
- 3:32:43you are, if they were going to take this and obviously.
- 3:32:48Giving him like what? Realistically, like everything's
- 3:32:51off the table. What would have been the number
- 3:32:54for you? He's young enough, so definitely
- 3:32:5735. I think it would have worked.
- 3:32:59I don't think I would have done more than that because he's 27.
- 3:33:02Still more. Yeah, maybe still. 30 million,
- 3:33:06yeah, again, that's it. I have a problem more with the
- 3:33:09process. Obviously the money is bad.
- 3:33:12It's. Really bad.
- 3:33:13I have a problem more with the process though because.
- 3:33:15Why don't you do that? Earlier in the.
- 3:33:16Offseason before you trade for Simeon because now like you're
- 3:33:19saying, the Simeon's defense, which is good at second Java is
- 3:33:23going to be wasted if Bichette has to move to second because
- 3:33:26then he has to move to 3rd and then Pelagos are playing first.
- 3:33:29Simeon that literally didn't miss a game for five years,
- 3:33:31right? I like to trade for Simeon.
- 3:33:33That's what he hasn't ever led the league in hits like Bichette
- 3:33:36did. Understand that.
- 3:33:38But. What I don't get is now if
- 3:33:43you're committed to what the process is and obviously he got
- 3:33:47opt outs, he's like now, OK, I'm 27 and you brought that up
- 3:33:52Speedy. It's like OK, 30 to 35.
- 3:33:56That's where that's where I would have been OK with.
- 3:33:57You said 35, I would have been OK with 35.
- 3:34:00I would have probably preferred like 32, but yeah.
- 3:34:03But now it's like. OK, now if I go ball out, I'm
- 3:34:0627. I'll play the whole year at 20.
- 3:34:098 Now it's like, all right, the Mets suck ass.
- 3:34:14I led the league in hits. I hit 280 with 25 a showed I can
- 3:34:19play a position. Now he go gets another bag and
- 3:34:22he's out so. Realistically, you're talking
- 3:34:25about. Renting a player that's what did
- 3:34:27you gave him that opportunity to rent him.
- 3:34:31David Sterns guys, David Sterns and like I said, Jabba for maybe
- 3:34:355 to 5 to $6 million more you could have gotten Valdez and
- 3:34:39Gallon. It's it's a.
- 3:34:40Joke, you know. There's not much more to see.
- 3:34:42You need pitching. I know and and.
- 3:34:44And here's the thing, they're going to have to dig deep for
- 3:34:47the Tarek school because he's going to be available next.
- 3:34:49Year, but there are going to be teams lining up for this guy.
- 3:34:53For about 500. $1,000,000 and now the Mets.
- 3:34:56I, I don't know how much money is, is this guy going to dig
- 3:34:58into his pockets for this man just to solidify the pitching
- 3:35:01staff. Their pitching staff is, is
- 3:35:03young and to me not ready for this season.
- 3:35:07When you're putting all their eggs in a basket of guys that
- 3:35:10have never played and playing out of positions, it makes no
- 3:35:13sense it David Stern should be fired for this.
- 3:35:16And I'm going to tell you this right now.
- 3:35:18If he's not on the hot seat, hot seat going into the season, I
- 3:35:21don't know what who is. This man should absolutely be in
- 3:35:25the hot seat for making a move like this and trying to sell
- 3:35:28this to Cohen. And if Cohen's going to sit here
- 3:35:30and make it seem like, oh, we got a batting champion, this guy
- 3:35:33can't stay healthy. This guy hasn't proven anything
- 3:35:36for $42 million and for three years and he can opt out.
- 3:35:41Makes no sense. Absolute debacle.
- 3:35:43Terrible move for the New York Mets, reaching after losing out
- 3:35:47on Tucker. That's all I'm going to say
- 3:35:48about this. This is just, it's pathetic,
- 3:35:50pathetic. They're a stupid organization
- 3:35:53that's making more mistakes. And no Mets fan should make
- 3:35:55excuses for David Stearns. And yes, ladies and gentlemen,
- 3:35:58I'm speaking to you, Josh. I'm speaking to you.
- 3:36:01You better not make an excuse for this.
- 3:36:03This is a bad freaking move. A bad one.
- 3:36:07And, and for you to sell this to me.
- 3:36:08Oh, it's not my money. It's not my money.
- 3:36:10I don't give a crap whose money it is.
- 3:36:13This is your team. This is a team that you're
- 3:36:14rooting for. And you're going to set your
- 3:36:16team back because you're reaching on this garbage.
- 3:36:19Reaching. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
- 3:36:23a final segment of the night we call this.
- 3:36:26What's that smell? Hold up.
- 3:36:28What is that smell? What's that smell?
- 3:36:36Wow, You don't see that every day.
- 3:36:38All right, ladies and gentlemen, what's that smell with?
- 3:36:41No fish. This is going to be interesting.
- 3:36:45All. Right, so.
- 3:36:46We're going to go first with Tommy Speedy.
- 3:36:51You know what, I'll go 3rd and Jabba last.
- 3:36:54How's that one? How about that one?
- 3:36:58All right, let's do it, that one.
- 3:36:59All right, so for my, what's that smell?
- 3:37:02I'm going to be going to the divisional round.
- 3:37:04I know we talked about the divisional.
- 3:37:05Games. A little bit earlier.
- 3:37:07But I'm going to be focusing. On Really the only good game of.
- 3:37:09The divisional round being the Bills and well, I wouldn't say
- 3:37:12the only game, the most exciting game being the Bills and
- 3:37:15Broncos. Basically, if you guys have been
- 3:37:16living under a rock or not following the playoffs, you
- 3:37:19would already know that. We've mentioned this as well,
- 3:37:22that Patrick Mahomes, the man who has made the last five out
- 3:37:24of the six Super Bowls, didn't even make the playoffs.
- 3:37:26So for whatever reason, watching the Bills game, we have Tony
- 3:37:31Romo over here calling Josh Allen multiple times, Patrick
- 3:37:34Mahomes. Now, I thought it was kind of
- 3:37:36funny because, hey, I mean, I understand the fact that could
- 3:37:40be a mistake. You know, Tony Romo was on CBS.
- 3:37:42They call a lot of CBS games. The Chiefs play on CBS a lot,
- 3:37:45and like I said, they've been making the goddamn playoffs
- 3:37:47every single year for the last six years, so actually in the
- 3:37:50last 10 years, so it makes sense.
- 3:37:52Tony Romo's been really the guy on CBS, but I found it
- 3:37:55absolutely hilarious that it doesn't.
- 3:37:57I don't know if it's that he it was actually a mistake or he
- 3:37:59misses him, but we can't escape. We can't seem to escape Patrick
- 3:38:04Mahomes out of the postseason. So what does that smell like?
- 3:38:07It smells genuinely like the molted garbage doughnut that
- 3:38:13Tony Romo and it looks like Josh Allen are going to have in their
- 3:38:17career when it comes to Super Bowl rings.
- 3:38:20So there we go. All right, I saw this on
- 3:38:23Facebook, actually, courtesy of a guy that used to be on our
- 3:38:26network, Errol, one of our fantasy guys, Bo, who did a
- 3:38:29fantasy show with us. I saw it on.
- 3:38:31His Facebook because he. Has the he has a hot sauce
- 3:38:33company big time flavor. So how's he doing?
- 3:38:37Doing a lot of fantasy stuff I've seen, I've seen recently
- 3:38:40and he's I see his food stuff all the time.
- 3:38:42If you want a good food, food social media site like he cooks
- 3:38:46all tons of great things. But yeah, he's doing well, a big
- 3:38:49good fantasy community. If we got to check out his
- 3:38:50stuff. I haven't checked in with Scott,
- 3:38:53though. Scott who has a daughter as
- 3:38:54well. He's doing some, I haven't heard
- 3:38:57talk to him in a while, but I saw this on Bose Facebook
- 3:39:00because he obviously he called himself the king of spice.
- 3:39:02So the Rams with cayenne pepper powder, I tried to warmed up
- 3:39:09their socks and their cleats inside of it.
- 3:39:12I'm like, what? I've read this.
- 3:39:13I'm like, this is the perfect thing for what's that spell?
- 3:39:15Because you already deal with athlete's foot as it is.
- 3:39:17When you're on a football field and.
- 3:39:19Then you're going to put in these really spicy.
- 3:39:21It's a really spicy pepper, cayenne.
- 3:39:22I think it was fifth or sixth among Peppers that grow in the
- 3:39:26US or. Whatever, and you're going.
- 3:39:28To put that in your sweaty feet and socks and all that stuff.
- 3:39:31So I'm like, yeah, this is perfect for this segment.
- 3:39:33And the Rams try to do it to keep them warm in the snow
- 3:39:36during the snow game against the Bears.
- 3:39:38So what does that smell like? Well, we're going to bring back
- 3:39:41a memory of a goodie. Try to have a Carolina Reaper.
- 3:39:44So it smells like that combined with the ice cream, that and the
- 3:39:47milk that he tried to eat. And if a bear were to digest
- 3:39:50that, what would it come out as? That's what it smells like.
- 3:39:54Wow. Before you go real quick, Carol,
- 3:39:56I just wanted to say since you guys got off the Mets, the Mets
- 3:39:58are actually training for Luis Robert Mets.
- 3:40:01I'm sorry, White Sox outfielder. So, yeah, they've been after him
- 3:40:05for two years. That's not surprising.
- 3:40:06Yeah, just saw it pop up. Just mention that.
- 3:40:08But yeah, go ahead. Jumping for joy.
- 3:40:11Great move. Yeah, two years on a downturn.
- 3:40:14After the game, Anthony Edwards admitted that.
- 3:40:17The Timberwolves are. Often.
- 3:40:19Don't listen to the. Game plan most.
- 3:40:21Of the time we don't listen to the game plan when we.
- 3:40:24Listen to it and execute. We're pretty good, Edwards said
- 3:40:29When asked why it's so, so damn hard to do this consistently,
- 3:40:34Edwards replied. I don't know.
- 3:40:36We're hard headed. We want to make the game harder,
- 3:40:39but we just listen tonight and and it works.
- 3:40:44Oh my God, what is why is Anthony Edwards speaking?
- 3:40:48Why is this guy speaking? Every time this guy speaks, he
- 3:40:53makes him look, he makes himself look stupider and he makes his
- 3:40:56team actually dysfunctional. It doesn't make any sense.
- 3:41:01And, and I love the guy. I think he's a great player and
- 3:41:04he's sensational as we heard what he did on that stupid
- 3:41:07Netflix show when he when Obama was talking to him and and they
- 3:41:13were asking, I forget who was asking.
- 3:41:15I think it was one of the big guys.
- 3:41:16He asked me, what do you think of what do you think of Anthony
- 3:41:19Edwards? He says he's good.
- 3:41:20He says good. I'm the truth, you know, and and
- 3:41:24and and when it was asked if if he's going to be the face, Yeah.
- 3:41:27And when he said he was, he was all about being the face.
- 3:41:30People are asking who's going to be the face of USA Basketball.
- 3:41:34Everybody knows it's Anthony Edwards when everybody starts
- 3:41:37to. Retire he.
- 3:41:37Says, yeah, I don't want it. I have no interest in doing it.
- 3:41:40As as we all know, this man does not know how to zipper his mouth
- 3:41:44and he makes himself look dumb. He makes his organization look
- 3:41:47dumb. When is it going?
- 3:41:48What is it going to take for this organization to just part
- 3:41:51ways with him? John Moran's going.
- 3:41:53It seems like Giannis is going not because of that, but I I I
- 3:41:57just don't know how much time this organization is going to
- 3:42:00spend listening to this idiot speak out and tell people that
- 3:42:05they're not following the game plan.
- 3:42:07It's embarrassing to come out there and throw his coach under
- 3:42:10the bus. You know what it smells like?
- 3:42:12Smells like that owl eating a Tootsie roll Pop, shove it up
- 3:42:15his ass and takes a fart. That's what I say. 1A2 Who?
- 3:42:19A three. He and it goes to take the
- 3:42:23touchy roll pop. Yeah, it goes Anthony Edwards,
- 3:42:25asshole. What an ass.
- 3:42:29Jesus. I'm going to go for the college
- 3:42:32football Chris Fowler because he he's been under a little bit of.
- 3:42:37Scrutiny. In these last few weeks, he he.
- 3:42:40Literally comes on and he says, oh, a blowout in the first half
- 3:42:47between Indiana and they're up 10 to nothing and nothing has
- 3:42:50happened in the game, he pronounced.
- 3:42:53You you brought up. Romo when he's pronouncing names
- 3:42:55wrong. Fowler did the same thing like 2
- 3:42:58weeks prior. Like back-to-back weeks.
- 3:43:01I know he's been in the game for a.
- 3:43:03While but is is he getting too old to to keep up with the game
- 3:43:09because 10 nothing in the national championship.
- 3:43:11Game is not a. Blowout don't understand where
- 3:43:14he was coming from and it smells like he has to use that little
- 3:43:19hook to put his socks on because he can't bend over and his older
- 3:43:24eaters aren't working. Are there any Siam Peppers on
- 3:43:27those socks? Java?
- 3:43:29He might need to try those. The gross sexual action of cream
- 3:43:32on. Somebody's face.
- 3:43:33You might need to try them well. There you go, ladies and
- 3:43:37gentlemen, that's what's your smell and.
- 3:43:40I It's crazy. No fish tonight, it was a great
- 3:43:43show. Great content, great.
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- 3:43:54I I just love how the flow of the show has been working and
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- 3:44:11I'm sure nobody says the things I mean, did anybody say, did
- 3:44:15anybody bring up McDermott going to The Jets?
- 3:44:18Did anybody even think to do that?
- 3:44:20I mean, Jets, The Jets haven't even thought to do that because
- 3:44:23they're dumb organization. So I I just think our takes are
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- 3:45:25birthday to fish. Happy 40th to fish.
- 3:45:28And we got two guys with the age of 40.
- 3:45:30You know, the babies are speedy actually, Tommy's the old
- 3:45:35youngest guy on the show. Niffin's right there with
- 3:45:38Speedy. And then we have the old
- 3:45:40goodster. The old goodster.
- 3:45:42It was going to be 35 this year, I think so, yeah.
- 3:45:47I didn't realize Goody was that young.
- 3:45:49I thought he was actually a little closer to Java stage and
- 3:45:51he used to mind. No, he's closer to your age.
- 3:45:53Yeah, but the old good stir is getting up there in age too.
- 3:45:57So we love you too. Man, anyways, that's it for a
- 3:46:00show. Who do we have on through?
- 3:46:01All right, one of our favorite baseball.
- 3:46:02Guests and Java. He's never been on with you, but
- 3:46:04I know, I know, I know. You 2 have a good connection
- 3:46:07with each other. It's actually interesting when
- 3:46:09we first had you join for the Yankees.
- 3:46:11Post game years ago, I saw you interacting with this guy on
- 3:46:14Twitter at 9:30. Returning to the show is our
- 3:46:16friend Mr. Ryan Spader, MLB analyst and the founder of the
- 3:46:19Ace of spader.com, Ryan Spader. The Spader.
- 3:46:25Oh my God. Oh, we're getting that Jackass
- 3:46:27on There we go. Yeah.
- 3:46:32I'm texting right now the old Ryanster neutral on Bush.
- 3:46:37Don't want to think. About it, all right.
- 3:46:40There we go, ladies and gentlemen, Ryan.
- 3:46:41Spader will be. On Thursday, all.
- 3:46:43Right. It is. 11:30 And it's time to
- 3:46:45go. I'm hungry, I want to say.
- 3:46:47Goodbye, goodbye to. You and Farewell and we will
- 3:46:51talk to you on Thursday. Good night.
- 3:46:53Farewell. It is the worldwide sports radio
- 3:46:55network. Radio Network.