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- 0:03Speaker 1: Oh, Owen's Mack and Bow on your radio, BAF my
- 0:07Speaker 1: frame back, Posh, Come on Posh in my frame team, Bone,
- 0:13Speaker 1: what's up the fun?
- 0:14Speaker 2: I can't go to work without listening to Mack.
- 0:17Speaker 1: And Bone do a lot.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't think they've changed at all.
- 0:32Speaker 3: I think that I'm gonna continue to strive to be
- 0:34Speaker 3: a thousand yard receiver. That's what you know, I always
- 0:37Speaker 3: wanted to accomplish. So, I mean, that was my goal
- 0:39Speaker 3: coming in as a rookie. Of my goal last year,
- 0:41Speaker 3: That'll be my goal this year. And it's just gonna
- 0:44Speaker 3: whatever I can do to help the team is what
- 0:47Speaker 3: I'm is what I'm gonna try my best to do.
- 0:49Speaker 3: So if that's you know, if that looks like six
- 0:51Speaker 3: hundred yards, and it doesn't matter to me as long
- 0:53Speaker 3: as we're winning football games, and I'll continue to just
- 0:56Speaker 3: put my best foot forward.
- 0:58Speaker 4: There you go.
- 0:58Speaker 5: Jalen Coker, talking about his goal, says he still wants
- 1:02Speaker 5: that thousand yard season. Stay healthy, big fella, and I
- 1:06Speaker 5: think you could get close to that. If not there.
- 1:08Speaker 5: Looking forward to seeing him and Bryce continue to develop
- 1:12Speaker 5: their chemistry. They had some great moments the other night
- 1:14Speaker 5: at FanFest. That was Coker talking after FanFest. Coker had
- 1:19Speaker 5: a moment that wasn't so great that he was able
- 1:21Speaker 5: to laugh about afterwards. We're gonna get to here in
- 1:23Speaker 5: a second. I wasn't laughing at this. It was so
- 1:27Speaker 5: it was so funny given the context. But we've also
- 1:30Speaker 5: got to talk about the prolific passing game Bryce, Kenny Pickett.
- 1:35Speaker 5: I ain't joking, man. Kenny Pickett was out there slinging,
- 1:38Speaker 5: especially to Bryce and Tremaine late in practice. It was
- 1:41Speaker 5: a fun night Panther fan Fest, and we're gonna talk
- 1:45Speaker 5: about what I want to hear from y'all. Two on
- 1:47Speaker 5: the Panther FanFest fan experience, forty seven thousand people there
- 1:52Speaker 5: to watch.
- 1:52Speaker 6: A practice were talking about practice. That's as close as
- 1:57Speaker 6: I can get. Bone, That's all I got hold on here.
- 2:00Speaker 6: Why is your Alan Iverson turning into Jima talking about practice, practice, practice,
- 2:06Speaker 6: a game, practice, practice, playoffs.
- 2:10Speaker 4: Do you think I'm combining the two together?
- 2:12Speaker 6: You've got the ivers words voice.
- 2:17Speaker 5: We talked about this earlier, Bone, and I would hope
- 2:20Speaker 5: I would think we're going to get some of the
- 2:21Speaker 5: same feedback from y'all that if you were, if you
- 2:24Speaker 5: were among the forty seven thousand on Friday Night these
- 2:27Speaker 5: last two years. The way they've done it, and I
- 2:29Speaker 5: do think that they are the way that they're thinking
- 2:33Speaker 5: might be. We got to give you something fun. We
- 2:35Speaker 5: got to make this night better for fans because you
- 2:39Speaker 5: can't come out to any training camp practices.
- 2:41Speaker 4: And that'll change next year.
- 2:42Speaker 5: The field house, the indoor practice untility to be done
- 2:45Speaker 5: and fans will be back out at training camp. But
- 2:48Speaker 5: I do think that's part of what Dave Canalis has
- 2:50Speaker 5: done the last couple of years, trying to make it
- 2:52Speaker 5: like an innsquad scrimmage, essentially keeping score. I think that's
- 2:57Speaker 5: probably part of it, but it really does make it better.
- 3:00Speaker 5: Canalis too gets it, takes the microphone and we have
- 3:03Speaker 5: timed at the last two years bone so by the
- 3:06Speaker 5: time that we are rolling in there, it's Dave Canalis
- 3:09Speaker 5: on the microphone saying, Okay, we've warmed up, we're ready
- 3:12Speaker 5: to start the scrimmage.
- 3:15Speaker 6: But they just get it. It's such a cool fan event, man,
- 3:19Speaker 6: it really is. It's also built for canals. It's upbeat,
- 3:22Speaker 6: it's positive. Yeah, a lot of energy, so he does
- 3:25Speaker 6: really well in that environment. There's not a lot of
- 3:27Speaker 6: downtime as opposed to regimes of the past. But there's
- 3:31Speaker 6: a lot of individual drills, want of warm ups, want
- 3:34Speaker 6: to stand in a lot of walking.
- 3:35Speaker 4: But at least by the time we get there, I
- 3:37Speaker 4: know they do warm up.
- 3:38Speaker 6: But once this event gets going, it's just like watching
- 3:42Speaker 6: a scrimmage two football teams playing, rather than going through
- 3:44Speaker 6: all the running through the motions of the drills they
- 3:47Speaker 6: used to do big time.
- 3:48Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right.
- 3:49Speaker 6: Really to kind of be like, all right, we're gonna
- 3:50Speaker 6: do these drills for the fans, even though we're just
- 3:53Speaker 6: kind of doing them half speed.
- 3:54Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. This feels more like real football now. Listen.
- 3:58Speaker 5: I saw the time that that Lathan Ransom could have
- 4:01Speaker 5: lit up Coker on one of those passes that Bryce
- 4:04Speaker 5: hit him at downfield. There were a lot of times
- 4:06Speaker 5: where you see, okay, the defense has got a layoff, guys. Right,
- 4:09Speaker 5: there was one the deep ball from Pickett to Tremaine
- 4:12Speaker 5: at the end. It's like he probably could have been
- 4:13Speaker 5: hit there. But so it does favor the offense. So
- 4:17Speaker 5: when I keep telling you how good Bryce looked to
- 4:19Speaker 5: Pickett was slinging it, you know, the t Mac and
- 4:22Speaker 5: Coker had big nights takeing with a grand assault too,
- 4:27Speaker 5: because the defense is kind of not necessarily a favor
- 4:30Speaker 5: in that. But I did notice defensive plays too. Princely
- 4:33Speaker 5: was in the backfield a ton, which is a good sign.
- 4:36Speaker 5: He's one of the number one guys we want to
- 4:37Speaker 5: watch this preseason. Will Lee covering T Mack had a
- 4:41Speaker 5: real nice pass breakup cam Gill's. Another guy had to
- 4:44Speaker 5: look up the roster. Who the heck is that? Oh,
- 4:46Speaker 5: he's in the backfield again, cam Gill. So there are
- 4:49Speaker 5: some guys, but mostly Bone. It was an offensive show
- 4:52Speaker 5: passing game show. Corey Dillon had a pretty ridiculous cat
- 4:55Speaker 5: yllan AJ Dillon Corey Dillon. AJ Dillon had a pretty
- 4:59Speaker 5: ridicul catch out of the backfield. Had a couple catches
- 5:02Speaker 5: out of the backfield. But they just do it. It's
- 5:05Speaker 5: just fun like it really, I gotta be honest with you.
- 5:08Speaker 5: In the pass bone fan fest, you get there, you'd
- 5:10Speaker 5: be like, oh, yeah, it's just practice. They do the
- 5:13Speaker 5: best to make this feel almost like, I don't know,
- 5:16Speaker 5: like a college football spring game used to feel like, right,
- 5:19Speaker 5: you know, very good comparison.
- 5:21Speaker 6: dB and Devin Lloyd did not play. They got vet
- 5:25Speaker 6: days and Horn and Mike Jack were there in the
- 5:27Speaker 6: first half, and they came off for the second half.
- 5:30Speaker 6: So it's not like you saw all the guys for
- 5:33Speaker 6: very long, but you saw you saw enough to make
- 5:35Speaker 6: yourself feel anticipation for the season, rather than fan fest
- 5:40Speaker 6: off the past, where you felt like the fan base
- 5:42Speaker 6: was sitting ground like they were about to walk the
- 5:45Speaker 6: Green mile man, like, oh no, we have to watch
- 5:49Speaker 6: this team the whole year. It feels like there's an
- 5:51Speaker 6: excitement in an anticipation for what this team can be
- 5:56Speaker 6: big out of unknown.
- 5:57Speaker 4: But that's all right. It's gonna be a fun season.
- 5:59Speaker 5: I think the injuries have bummed us out a little bit,
- 6:01Speaker 5: but I do believe bone we will get our panther
- 6:05Speaker 5: spirit back. I get that and get the excitement back
- 6:08Speaker 5: because we are defending a division championship. I don't know
- 6:11Speaker 5: if anybody's noticed. That's not normal around here of Lake,
- 6:14Speaker 5: not normal.
- 6:17Speaker 4: Division.
- 6:19Speaker 5: Thank you, sir, Thank you, sir. I appreciate that Monroe
- 6:22Speaker 5: Freeling was out there. People are asking uh, and I
- 6:26Speaker 5: thought he held up fairly well. He's going against Phillips
- 6:28Speaker 5: a lot, so he is getting a dang education, man.
- 6:32Speaker 6: No doubt about it. He's going to get a big
- 6:34Speaker 6: education soon. When he sees Will Anderson for the scrimmage. Yes,
- 6:40Speaker 6: in the joint sessions.
- 6:41Speaker 5: Anderson, Daniel Hunter and now Jenevian Clowney, they go. They
- 6:44Speaker 5: go three deep now at edge rushers after signing Clowney.
- 6:48Speaker 5: All right, let's get into some of the sounds of
- 6:50Speaker 5: the night. Let's start with Jalen Coker's moment bone that
- 6:54Speaker 5: didn't go so well. Dave Canalis also understanding it's supposed
- 6:58Speaker 5: to be a fun night, he wants to dial up
- 7:01Speaker 5: some trick plays. They actually had a fourth down fake
- 7:04Speaker 5: field goal to uh Felipe Franks that worked beautifully. By
- 7:08Speaker 5: the way, fits money nailing multiple fifty plus yard field
- 7:11Speaker 5: goals won't give him a little love as well. But
- 7:13Speaker 5: they tried a Jalen Cocher pass play and listen to
- 7:18Speaker 5: Jalen Coker, the ball was thrown right to j C.
- 7:21Speaker 4: Horn. It was ugly.
- 7:23Speaker 5: Listen to Jalen Coker talk about that play.
- 7:26Speaker 3: See you got one on you? Oh yeah, yeah, of course.
- 7:32Speaker 7: You know.
- 7:34Speaker 3: You shouldn't have been there basically, but no, I probably
- 7:38Speaker 3: just got to throw that at a bound but sweet
- 7:41Speaker 3: pain to do though.
- 7:43Speaker 4: Were you excited that that play was called.
- 7:45Speaker 3: And yeah, of course I was excited. I was disappointed
- 7:48Speaker 3: with the result, definitely, but but no, yeah, I think
- 7:51Speaker 3: just for the coaching staff to trust me in a
- 7:53Speaker 3: position like that, I know it's just fan Fest, but
- 7:56Speaker 3: you know, down the line, hopefully we can work some
- 7:58Speaker 3: of that stuff in. I think I still got some
- 8:00Speaker 3: some stuff left in the tank. But yeah, no, I
- 8:02Speaker 3: think it's just a again. They just believe in me.
- 8:06Speaker 5: The best part about this fitty is that Bone said
- 8:09Speaker 5: in the office the other day after watching Jalen.
- 8:12Speaker 4: Coker set it on the air, Oh, did you say
- 8:14Speaker 4: it on the air? Yes? Oh, I thought it was
- 8:15Speaker 4: off the air. No, you called this. You wanted this.
- 8:21Speaker 6: Because the video went viral where he flips the ball
- 8:24Speaker 6: with his foot last week and caught it behind his back.
- 8:28Speaker 6: Then he wants to throw down the field with quarterback
- 8:31Speaker 6: leg Armstright and I said, oh man, they need to
- 8:34Speaker 6: put that. Maybe it was it not on the air.
- 8:36Speaker 4: I can't remember it's on The lines are blurring right now.
- 8:39Speaker 6: Anyway, which you suggested they need to work this play
- 8:42Speaker 6: into the playbook, and they, sure enough they did it
- 8:46Speaker 6: at fan Fast.
- 8:46Speaker 4: It was so funny.
- 8:47Speaker 5: He comes around, they give him the ball running around
- 8:51Speaker 5: right and we're like, oh, there it is there, it
- 8:53Speaker 5: is Coker's gonna throw and literally six yards downfield right
- 8:57Speaker 5: to j. C.
- 8:58Speaker 4: Horn now Jayleen Cocher.
- 9:00Speaker 5: Because they couldn't let him off bone with just a
- 9:03Speaker 5: couple of answers, they had to get more answers about
- 9:07Speaker 5: Jyalen Cocher throwing a ball?
- 9:09Speaker 4: Uh is it in his future? Listen? Listen to listen
- 9:12Speaker 4: to some more of this.
- 9:15Speaker 8: Did they come to you and like, hey, we want
- 9:16Speaker 8: you to run.
- 9:17Speaker 3: I was hoping that my throwing on the sideline would
- 9:19Speaker 3: have would have sparked it, and it did and now
- 9:22Speaker 3: it's you know, now we're gonna have to rebuild again.
- 9:24Speaker 3: But it's all right, it's okay.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Though we've seen you throw probably thirty thirty five yards
- 9:29Speaker 2: in practice with the trainer, like, how how much confidence
- 9:32Speaker 2: do you have in that arm?
- 9:33Speaker 7: Oh?
- 9:33Speaker 3: I have a lot of confidence, A lot of confidence
- 9:35Speaker 3: for sure. Played one game of quarterback in high school,
- 9:38Speaker 3: so I'm basically like vested. But uh but no, yeah,
- 9:42Speaker 3: I mean whatever the team asked me to do. One game,
- 9:45Speaker 3: go oh we lost for like three hundred yards and
- 9:52Speaker 3: just couldn't get in then zone.
- 9:53Speaker 7: Though after that time.
- 9:55Speaker 3: No, No, he didn't say anything, but I eye contact.
- 9:58Speaker 3: I could tell he's gonna.
- 10:00Speaker 6: He's getting peppered about this throw. He's having a blast
- 10:03Speaker 6: though talking about it. I so Bone, you were alone.
- 10:07Speaker 6: I said it on the air on Friday. Okay, so
- 10:09Speaker 6: you weren't alone. People are now mad at you for
- 10:11Speaker 6: not listening to my ideas on the air.
- 10:12Speaker 4: I just it all rid, guys.
- 10:13Speaker 5: I hang out with Bone and the offices here like
- 10:16Speaker 5: it all runs together.
- 10:17Speaker 4: Man, sometimes it all runs together. Where did Bone tell
- 10:20Speaker 4: me that? I don't know.
- 10:22Speaker 6: Let me say this. I have good ideas on the
- 10:24Speaker 6: ear and off the air. Yes, it doesn't matter. It
- 10:28Speaker 6: could be either way. But Canalis and Inzick they saw
- 10:31Speaker 6: the same thing. Jalen says they saw it and throw
- 10:34Speaker 6: and practice said we got to put something in for you,
- 10:36Speaker 6: so we'll see. I still think they could go to
- 10:39Speaker 6: something with him. I'm not to turn Bone, and I
- 10:42Speaker 6: don't think you should be either. I still think with
- 10:44Speaker 6: that arm they could go to something at some point
- 10:46Speaker 6: mid season, give him one more shot.
- 10:48Speaker 4: I think J. C. Horn knew was coming. It's part
- 10:51Speaker 4: of the problem with this.
- 10:52Speaker 5: It should He's right though, it should have been thrown
- 10:54Speaker 5: out of bounds. It's just the arm's good. The decision
- 10:57Speaker 5: making not good. Apparently that's the review.
- 11:00Speaker 6: Maybe we put maybe we put this away until we
- 11:03Speaker 6: and then we forget about it and bust it out
- 11:04Speaker 6: later on. I think you gotta do it, man, all
- 11:06Speaker 6: you gotta. Don't you use this week one? So now
- 11:09Speaker 6: now give him some time. You better breathe a little bit,
- 11:12Speaker 6: all right? So seven four five, seven oh nine six cent.
- 11:15Speaker 6: If you have thoughts, if you're at FanFest, what'd you
- 11:17Speaker 6: think of a fan It's also it's an awesome family
- 11:19Speaker 6: event too.
- 11:20Speaker 5: It's a real cool family event. And then they bring
- 11:23Speaker 5: out Asher Harvey six years old, give him to make
- 11:26Speaker 5: a wish moment where he gets to play quarterback and
- 11:29Speaker 5: finish the game off by running the ball in from
- 11:31Speaker 5: one yard out. Like it's just it's just stuff like that. Man,
- 11:34Speaker 5: it's just a fun night. There's so many kids there
- 11:36Speaker 5: that got the legends doing autographs. Trey Boston continues bone
- 11:41Speaker 5: to be the most excitable Panther legend ever at any
- 11:44Speaker 5: of these events.
- 11:46Speaker 4: He was cranked. But it's just a cool, fun night.
- 11:50Speaker 5: And I do think, you know, I do think they realize, man,
- 11:52Speaker 5: it sucks you can't bring your kids out to practice
- 11:55Speaker 5: right now until next year.
- 11:57Speaker 6: I think they they're giving you a great event. Uh,
- 12:00Speaker 6: it's great. It's a great celebration of Panther football. It
- 12:03Speaker 6: is man, It's a great way to kick it off.
- 12:04Speaker 6: And now the real stuff starts, the real intense stuff
- 12:07Speaker 6: bone the Hall of Fame game on Thursday night. Texter
- 12:10Speaker 6: is asking who starts at quarterback in Canton on Thursday night.
- 12:15Speaker 6: It's got to be Picket, right, Like, you don't think
- 12:17Speaker 6: Bryce is starting, is he? There's only three arms on
- 12:19Speaker 6: the roster right now, right because Kyle trashk they inside draft.
- 12:24Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:24Speaker 5: He talked about that the other day and said, basically,
- 12:26Speaker 5: we have so many needs elsewhere deep on the roster
- 12:28Speaker 5: that we can't bring Trash.
- 12:30Speaker 4: There was three quarterbacks.
- 12:31Speaker 6: I may say that Picket doesn't even play, but I think, huh, Bryce,
- 12:36Speaker 6: what you're saying.
- 12:38Speaker 4: If you're saying Bryce about Bryce.
- 12:40Speaker 6: Saying if they had Trask in there, I'm not even
- 12:42Speaker 6: sure how much Picket would even play. No, oh really yeah,
- 12:44Speaker 6: outside of one series, but Teddy Kny Piggott definitely starts
- 12:48Speaker 6: because they're not gonna make haydnes King play the whole
- 12:51Speaker 6: entire game. So but yo, so you're definitely saying Bryce
- 12:53Speaker 6: is not playing. Bryce is not playing. Oh yeah, I'm
- 12:56Speaker 6: with you on that. Yeah, it'll be It'll be Pickett
- 12:58Speaker 6: and Haines King. There's only two arms. So my point
- 13:01Speaker 6: is if they had Kyle Trass, we probably wouldn't see
- 13:04Speaker 6: a lot of Picket either. But because they only have
- 13:06Speaker 6: two quarterbacks, they're not gonna make Hayneses King play the
- 13:08Speaker 6: entire game. Okay, so Picket will play for a series
- 13:11Speaker 6: or two. Yeah, that's what I mean. It could be
- 13:13Speaker 6: a half. I don't know, they could each take a half.
- 13:16Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 13:17Speaker 5: It's we have not been in this spot in forever, right,
- 13:24Speaker 5: so it's just it's it's uncharted. Waters Canalist will often
- 13:29Speaker 5: not play Guys Bone much at all in the preseason
- 13:32Speaker 5: as it was. I think every does every starter sit.
- 13:38Speaker 5: I think close to every starter sits. Yes, you know,
- 13:42Speaker 5: maybe someone like Lee Hunter they get out there as
- 13:44Speaker 5: a rookie.
- 13:45Speaker 6: Do you consider ex elis starter as a third wide
- 13:48Speaker 6: out because he's probably gonna have to play, So I
- 13:49Speaker 6: think he plays. I think he might play some. They
- 13:52Speaker 6: need to get him in game action and they needed
- 13:55Speaker 6: they need to maximize his opportunities.
- 13:57Speaker 5: I would think Canalis will be asked that question today
- 13:59Speaker 5: because we've only got two more practices before Wednesday. They're
- 14:02Speaker 5: traveling to Canton, so you've got today and tomorrow, So
- 14:05Speaker 5: I would expect today the questions to start to be
- 14:07Speaker 5: asked about who are you playing, who's not playing?
- 14:09Speaker 6: Nim won't play, Brooks definitely won't play. Yeah, those two
- 14:13Speaker 6: guys will not play in there. So offensive line maybe
- 14:17Speaker 6: a series, but freely probably maybe for a series maybe.
- 14:21Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 14:21Speaker 5: I feel like most teams don't even play starters, you
- 14:24Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like they literally may set out
- 14:25Speaker 5: every starter. So we're gonna have to find out when
- 14:28Speaker 5: this weekend comes up. I did want to let you
- 14:30Speaker 5: hear Coach Canalis or Thursday night, not this weekend. We're
- 14:32Speaker 5: only three days away. Coach Canalis I mentioned Princely being
- 14:36Speaker 5: active bone On Friday night, Coach Canalis talked about the
- 14:40Speaker 5: second year edge rusher.
- 14:42Speaker 9: Honestly, Princely, since the beginning of camp has really been
- 14:45Speaker 9: one of our guys on defense, chasing the ball all
- 14:47Speaker 9: over the field. And this is really cool to watch
- 14:50Speaker 9: him and Nick come in at the same time. And
- 14:51Speaker 9: we know how Nick plays and with this just relentless effort,
- 14:54Speaker 9: and Princelely has been that guy. He's chasing everything down.
- 14:57Speaker 9: He's working on his craft and to push himself in
- 15:01Speaker 9: different rush packages. And he's a guy that I'm really
- 15:03Speaker 9: excited to see where he goes.
- 15:06Speaker 5: He's huge, man, He's one of the X factors Sam
- 15:09Speaker 5: Jonathan Brooks. He may be the Jonathan Brooks in the defense.
- 15:13Speaker 5: You know, if he can make a big jump. I'm
- 15:15Speaker 5: not a convenience.
- 15:16Speaker 6: It's not true what Canals is saying, but I also
- 15:18Speaker 6: think there's something here where Canals is also right now
- 15:22Speaker 6: trying to talk up Princely too, because they know how
- 15:24Speaker 6: valuable he now is to this operation. So it's a
- 15:27Speaker 6: little bit of they're trying to get as confidence as
- 15:30Speaker 6: high as it can be when the season begins. I
- 15:31Speaker 6: did think he flashed the other No, he definitely did.
- 15:34Speaker 6: But the reason Canals is also going to talk him
- 15:36Speaker 6: up it's justified. But there's also you know, they they
- 15:41Speaker 6: desperately need Princely to fill that voint in Nick's court.
- 15:43Speaker 5: They do they need they could use his I mean,
- 15:46Speaker 5: we need pass rush badly. We brought in Jalen Phillips.
- 15:50Speaker 5: We need it badly. We've been one of the worst
- 15:52Speaker 5: pass rushes in the NFL boon in the last few seasons,
- 15:55Speaker 5: and that is his bag, that is his specialty, and
- 15:58Speaker 5: I would expect him to make a jump. I do
- 16:02Speaker 5: want to point out Bone, what is going on on
- 16:04Speaker 5: the text line right now. There is a movement from
- 16:08Speaker 5: our Mac and Bone show texters that Dave Canalis needs
- 16:12Speaker 5: to play Bryce Young and that Dave Canalis needs to
- 16:15Speaker 5: play the starters, that they need to take advantage of
- 16:18Speaker 5: the extra preseason game. So this something I thought Bone
- 16:22Speaker 5: would be accepted by everybody, is that, Yeah, most of
- 16:25Speaker 5: those guys are not going to play.
- 16:28Speaker 4: We may just may become a thing on the texts. Guy,
- 16:31Speaker 4: we could want that.
- 16:32Speaker 6: Those guys could want that all they want, but they're
- 16:34Speaker 6: not getting it.
- 16:35Speaker 8: Is that because they want a reason to stay invested
- 16:37Speaker 8: longer than they probably like, we'll sit here and watch
- 16:40Speaker 8: the entire game because that's our job. How many of
- 16:43Speaker 8: these fans back when they realize this is the worst
- 16:45Speaker 8: level of preseason football. You watching the entire preseason will
- 16:49Speaker 8: be gone by the middle of the second quarter because
- 16:51Speaker 8: like you not like.
- 16:52Speaker 4: Your twos may play a driven too. Let me let me,
- 16:55Speaker 4: let me get let me figure out how we go.
- 16:56Speaker 4: What's happening here.
- 16:57Speaker 5: Panther Fitty Bone is questioning his fallow Panther fans. Panther
- 17:01Speaker 5: Fitty is beginning year two Bone of his return to
- 17:05Speaker 5: Panther fan.
- 17:05Speaker 6: I sort of point that out. Yes, that's sort of point.
- 17:08Speaker 6: I think what it is he's got he's got He's
- 17:12Speaker 6: got a platform, y'all, he's got a platform. I think
- 17:15Speaker 6: what's going on?
- 17:16Speaker 5: If you can read some of these texts, it is
- 17:18Speaker 5: what we talk about every year, the slow starts that
- 17:21Speaker 5: the Dave Canalis has been very apprehensive Bone to play
- 17:26Speaker 5: Bryce and the Starters a lot, and I think we,
- 17:28Speaker 5: many of us, have wanted to see it more. I
- 17:30Speaker 5: think that's all it is. But they're taking this to
- 17:33Speaker 5: a Hall of Fame game that just no one anymore
- 17:36Speaker 5: plays Starters.
- 17:38Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think that discussion will be next week,
- 17:41Speaker 6: next week and after that.
- 17:42Speaker 4: That's kind of how I feel. This week. I didn't
- 17:44Speaker 4: even quit. I didn't even think anything about Starters playing
- 17:46Speaker 4: this week.
- 17:47Speaker 8: I would question if they played him, that would be
- 17:50Speaker 8: the conversation, why would you play?
- 17:52Speaker 4: That's That's what I'm saying. There's nothing the game.
- 17:54Speaker 5: Chris Harmon, says Roaring Ryde has two hundred plus people
- 17:58Speaker 5: Bone going to Canton. They play it's they Harmon. I
- 18:03Speaker 5: know you lost some weight so they can't put you
- 18:05Speaker 5: on the line anymore, baby, but maybe skill position somewhere
- 18:09Speaker 5: that that'll be a hell of a time for Panther fair.
- 18:11Speaker 5: What a celebration Bone of the Panthers returning to action,
- 18:15Speaker 5: but also Luke on Saturday.
- 18:17Speaker 6: And celebrating Luke. Our second guest of the day in
- 18:20Speaker 6: that Kurt Coleman, former teammate of Luke's, will join the
- 18:24Speaker 6: show about what do he thinks of Luke going to
- 18:26Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame this weekend on Sports Radio ninety
- 18:29Speaker 6: two seven WFNZ.
- 18:50Speaker 4: Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z.
- 18:53Speaker 5: Everybody remember that the Mac and Bone Show is there
- 18:57Speaker 5: for you, not just from six to ten. We're there
- 19:01Speaker 5: for you whenever you need us. Right podcast form, that is,
- 19:05Speaker 5: listen to the parts of the show you miss. There's
- 19:07Speaker 5: so much Panther football we're talking about nowadays, you know
- 19:11Speaker 5: any part you missing.
- 19:12Speaker 4: The show.
- 19:13Speaker 5: Each hour is podcasted on its own WFNZ, dot com,
- 19:17Speaker 5: Apple and Spotify. For example. We started off our Luke
- 19:21Speaker 5: Keighley Appreciation week interviews with Steve Speck as head coach
- 19:26Speaker 5: at Saint Xavier and Cincinnati. That was an hour ago.
- 19:29Speaker 5: Go to the seven o'clock hour and tune into that.
- 19:31Speaker 5: But he was tremendous telling some old stories about young
- 19:35Speaker 5: Luke Keighley in high school. Still a film nut in
- 19:39Speaker 5: high school. I'm sure nobody is surprised by that at all.
- 19:42Speaker 5: Our next guest played three seasons here in Carolina with Luke,
- 19:47Speaker 5: and he is here on Luke Keighley Appreciation Week to
- 19:50Speaker 5: talk about what it was like to play behind Luke Keighley.
- 19:53Speaker 5: He was watching Luke tell everybody where every play was going.
- 19:58Speaker 5: He is Kurt Coleman, former safety for your Carolina Panthers,
- 20:02Speaker 5: who joins us here on the Mack and Bone Show.
- 20:04Speaker 4: Kurt, what's going on? How you doing here?
- 20:07Speaker 2: Guys? Hold on? I need to clear something. I thought
- 20:09Speaker 2: this was about me telling everyone that I was telling
- 20:12Speaker 2: Luke where to go.
- 20:15Speaker 4: Oh heck yeah. If that's the real story, we'd love
- 20:17Speaker 4: to know the real story, man.
- 20:19Speaker 6: This is about trying to get you some credit. That's
- 20:21Speaker 6: what this is about.
- 20:22Speaker 4: Her was yelling to Luke and Luke was cheating.
- 20:24Speaker 6: He's like I acted like he knew where what now
- 20:26Speaker 6: we've got to see.
- 20:27Speaker 4: That is great man.
- 20:30Speaker 6: That is so you do you have a play or
- 20:33Speaker 6: moment when you hear the name lou Keikley. Is there
- 20:36Speaker 6: a play or a moment that comes to mind that
- 20:39Speaker 6: you think best sums up who he was as a player.
- 20:43Speaker 2: I don't think there's one singular play that you can
- 20:45Speaker 2: just say this. This is I think the greatest linebacker
- 20:51Speaker 2: that I got to witness, whether that was on his
- 20:54Speaker 2: team or on the opposite side of him, but just
- 20:57Speaker 2: being in the locker room, being on the field, and
- 21:01Speaker 2: really just listening to his mannerism, his cadences, I think
- 21:05Speaker 2: it just it speaks to everything that he is. And
- 21:09Speaker 2: there's so much more about him that I think people
- 21:11Speaker 2: won't even be able to get to you because there
- 21:13Speaker 2: is so much. I think one of the best things
- 21:15Speaker 2: that I keep telling people this is even off the field,
- 21:19Speaker 2: the moment that I first walked into the locker room
- 21:21Speaker 2: of Carolina, he was the first person to greet me,
- 21:24Speaker 2: and the first thing he says is, Hey, if there's
- 21:26Speaker 2: anything you need anyone to be introduced to, just let
- 21:29Speaker 2: me know. I'll be more than happy to walk you
- 21:31Speaker 2: through this and that and I was like, Wow, like
- 21:34Speaker 2: it it is. Everyone's going to speak to the greatness.
- 21:38Speaker 2: And I think I have a couple of stories that
- 21:40Speaker 2: I would love to share, but I want to speak
- 21:42Speaker 2: to the to the humility of him as well. This
- 21:44Speaker 2: this man is absolutely amazing inside and out, has got
- 21:50Speaker 2: a great heart. But when you talk about competitors, that
- 21:52Speaker 2: guy knows how to go. But if you're talking about
- 21:56Speaker 2: a specific play, there's a couple of them. But the
- 21:58Speaker 2: first one I would say is this. We are playing
- 22:00Speaker 2: Seattle at home in our divisional roalm and it was
- 22:04Speaker 2: a third down situation and it was one of those
- 22:06Speaker 2: things where again I was a few years older than Luke.
- 22:10Speaker 2: So he did his film study, I do my film study.
- 22:13Speaker 2: We meet throughout the week, we do all this, and
- 22:16Speaker 2: I remember this vividly. We had we were crushing him
- 22:18Speaker 2: and then they started to creep back in, creep back in, Yeah,
- 22:21Speaker 2: and they came out in this formation and I was like, oh,
- 22:23Speaker 2: I know what's happening. And Luke goes, They're running the
- 22:26Speaker 2: dig and I'm like, no, they ain't running the dig.
- 22:29Speaker 2: They're not running the dig.
- 22:30Speaker 1: Sure enough, they ran the dig.
- 22:32Speaker 2: And I looked at him and I'm like I am
- 22:34Speaker 2: so sorry. I I will never doubt you again. But
- 22:42Speaker 2: it's the man is amazing, and he knows when to
- 22:45Speaker 2: turn it on and he knew when to turn it off.
- 22:46Speaker 2: He is an absolute great human being. But like I said,
- 22:49Speaker 2: he is a Hall of Famer inside and out.
- 22:51Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's there.
- 22:52Speaker 5: There's that's another layer to him is just how genuine humble,
- 22:56Speaker 5: Like you said, just like a night, like everybody would
- 22:59Speaker 5: want like Luke as their neighbor, Like everybody would of
- 23:01Speaker 5: your he's your neighbor. He's the guy that will help
- 23:03Speaker 5: you with anything.
- 23:04Speaker 4: Like.
- 23:04Speaker 5: It's just that that's such a cool part of the
- 23:06Speaker 5: package too. How did he like, like we always kind
- 23:10Speaker 5: of compare it, even though Cam had the Superman Moniker here,
- 23:13Speaker 5: we always compared it to like Luke had this Clark
- 23:16Speaker 5: Kent persona off the field and then would all of
- 23:19Speaker 5: a sudden become this superhero on the field. How like,
- 23:23Speaker 5: how did he did he literally just walk on the
- 23:25Speaker 5: field and then flip the switch? Did you notice on
- 23:28Speaker 5: game day? Oh we got a different Luke. It's game day, Like,
- 23:31Speaker 5: how was he like kind of flipping that switch?
- 23:35Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think people say the Clark Kent
- 23:38Speaker 2: thing because of how he looks. He looks literally like
- 23:41Speaker 2: the cartoon Clark Kent.
- 23:43Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's more of a.
- 23:45Speaker 2: Bruce Banner than he is a superman.
- 23:47Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 23:48Speaker 2: He he is actually an incredible scientist. He is the
- 23:52Speaker 2: he is the professor like he is in their studying
- 23:54Speaker 2: Bruce Banner. Yeah. And then when you piss him off,
- 23:58Speaker 2: you better watch out because he is out for blood
- 24:00Speaker 2: and he does not care what he messes up in
- 24:02Speaker 2: his path. That is really Luke. But you know, obviously
- 24:06Speaker 2: it looks nice to call him Clark Camp, but he
- 24:08Speaker 2: is the Bruce Bayder.
- 24:09Speaker 6: I love all the superhero I love that. That's beautiful, Kurt.
- 24:12Speaker 6: Let's go back a few years. January twenty twenty, the
- 24:16Speaker 6: news breaks out Luke Keikley's retiring. What was your initial reaction. Well,
- 24:22Speaker 6: when that news dropped, you know.
- 24:25Speaker 2: I the first thing is I sent him, you know
- 24:27Speaker 2: cinema text message is to say what a great career
- 24:29Speaker 2: and how you know, grateful I was to spend three
- 24:33Speaker 2: years of his career together. Just you know, again, just
- 24:36Speaker 2: being around great people, great players. You just got to
- 24:39Speaker 2: appreciate it while you're in the moment and then give
- 24:42Speaker 2: them their flowers while you still can you know, regardless,
- 24:45Speaker 2: you don't know how things are going to shake out
- 24:47Speaker 2: as far as will he be in the Hall of Fame,
- 24:49Speaker 2: this and that, and everyone will say, you know, we
- 24:51Speaker 2: would have loved to have seen him play another ten years,
- 24:54Speaker 2: I mean, without a doubt. But at the end of
- 24:56Speaker 2: the day, he came and he did what exactly what
- 24:59Speaker 2: he was supposed to do. And I think the blessing
- 25:01Speaker 2: for Luke is there's many facets to him. You know,
- 25:05Speaker 2: there's the football player, but he's he's the hunter, he's
- 25:08Speaker 2: the fisher, he's he's the businessman, he's he's really the
- 25:11Speaker 2: the you know, he's the philanthropist. He'll show up and
- 25:15Speaker 2: now he's the youth coach. So it's like he's there's
- 25:18Speaker 2: so many layers to Luke. But I think as one
- 25:21Speaker 2: chapter ends and coincidentally, like our chapters were ending at
- 25:24Speaker 2: the same time, and I think you just got to
- 25:28Speaker 2: appreciate the journey. And I feel like Rivera used to
- 25:31Speaker 2: always say, be where your feet are, and I think
- 25:33Speaker 2: Luke was such a smart person to know this is
- 25:37Speaker 2: the time. You know, yeah, could I fight for one
- 25:40Speaker 2: more two? But what does that do? You know? On
- 25:41Speaker 2: the back end, of my life, and I think he
- 25:44Speaker 2: left exactly when he needed to leave. He put into
- 25:46Speaker 2: the game exactly what he did, and you can walk
- 25:48Speaker 2: away with no regrets. That's what this game does, is
- 25:51Speaker 2: the ones that are able to get it all out
- 25:53Speaker 2: of their system, regardless if it's on your terms or
- 25:55Speaker 2: someone else's terms. You can say I gave it everything
- 25:58Speaker 2: I got and I can live with that, and I
- 26:01Speaker 2: can say he can. He can walk away and say
- 26:04Speaker 2: I gave this game everything I needed and everything I
- 26:07Speaker 2: could while I couldn't.
- 26:08Speaker 5: We're talking with Kirk Coleman, who, by the way, had
- 26:10Speaker 5: a Pro Bowl year. Twenty fifteen was a special year
- 26:13Speaker 5: for so many of us in Carolina. Luke included Kurt
- 26:16Speaker 5: seven picks Pro Bowl season that year, and my god,
- 26:19Speaker 5: that defense was so good. Kurt the film study stuff
- 26:23Speaker 5: like is he in there like way? Like is he
- 26:28Speaker 5: sleep in the film room or is he just so
- 26:31Speaker 5: sharp that he just sees things in the film that
- 26:35Speaker 5: others don't, or is it all of it?
- 26:37Speaker 4: Is it ever? Is it all of it together?
- 26:39Speaker 2: It's it's got to be all of it because the
- 26:42Speaker 2: one thing that coaches and will do is coaches will
- 26:45Speaker 2: feed you every information and nugget and tip that they
- 26:49Speaker 2: can to get you ready. It's the great ones that
- 26:52Speaker 2: can recall it and recall it literally as it's happening
- 26:56Speaker 2: or before it happens. I think that's that's the thing
- 26:59Speaker 2: about studying is you never know when you have to
- 27:01Speaker 2: kind of pull back a layer that you said, oh
- 27:04Speaker 2: my gosh, I watched it on a Monday. They did,
- 27:06Speaker 2: they're doing it again. There's a few times in my
- 27:09Speaker 2: career where I can say every like, you never know
- 27:13Speaker 2: when that moment is. And there's there's times where you
- 27:16Speaker 2: just have to put in the time. You can't shortcut
- 27:18Speaker 2: the process and if you do, and those that do,
- 27:21Speaker 2: they're gonna get burned on, you know, at some point.
- 27:24Speaker 2: So I feel like your process is your process and
- 27:27Speaker 2: for me and I know for Luke, there's a rhythm
- 27:29Speaker 2: in to the week. And that's what I loved about
- 27:31Speaker 2: football is you knew exactly what you were going to
- 27:33Speaker 2: get on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday as far as the practice expectations.
- 27:37Speaker 2: But the one thing you can't adjust for is the
- 27:40Speaker 2: team that you're playing for and who you're going against.
- 27:42Speaker 2: And what I loved is when you got to go
- 27:44Speaker 2: with some of the great quarterbacks. Boy did I oh
- 27:47Speaker 2: man a little bit extra a little a little extra
- 27:50Speaker 2: hour here understanding red zone tendencies, third downs because first
- 27:54Speaker 2: and second down obviously, I think that's the majority of
- 27:57Speaker 2: the game. But really you win and lose a third downs,
- 28:01Speaker 2: You win and lose in red zone and critical situations.
- 28:04Speaker 2: Two minute drives, Like what does the team do when
- 28:07Speaker 2: they need a first time? What do they do when
- 28:09Speaker 2: they're driving? Like that's why Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelcey
- 28:12Speaker 2: or you know, all these great call it teams or
- 28:14Speaker 2: players or they execute so well because they know exactly
- 28:18Speaker 2: what they're doing. So for for I know, Luke, for myself,
- 28:21Speaker 2: it was I'm gonna know exactly what you're doing better
- 28:25Speaker 2: than what you're doing so that I can beat you
- 28:27Speaker 2: to that spot. And that's that's the moments that really
- 28:30Speaker 2: separate the good from grades.
- 28:32Speaker 6: Kurt, that twenty fifteen team the greatest team and most
- 28:35Speaker 6: beloved team in Charlotte sports history. Do you have a
- 28:39Speaker 6: moment or a game that stands out to you as
- 28:42Speaker 6: your favorite from that season?
- 28:45Speaker 2: You know, I would love, Alex, I would love to
- 28:48Speaker 2: buy a vow. I want to I want to say
- 28:50Speaker 2: two games that really just stand out and it's gonna
- 28:53Speaker 2: and I want to prop up Luke. But the first
- 28:55Speaker 2: one was Dallas Cowboys on third or on a Thanksgiving game,
- 29:00Speaker 2: and I remember going into that game and it was
- 29:02Speaker 2: crazy because we were still underfeed and everyone was like,
- 29:05Speaker 2: you guys are going to lose. You know you're going
- 29:06Speaker 2: to in America's stadium, this and that, and we were
- 29:09Speaker 2: underdogs Vegas. Everyone says they don't pay attention to that,
- 29:14Speaker 2: but you hear it. You don't have to pay attention
- 29:16Speaker 2: to it, but you hear it. And we went down
- 29:19Speaker 2: there with such a chip on our shoulder. From the moment,
- 29:22Speaker 2: I think before the smoke left the stadium, we were
- 29:25Speaker 2: already putting a beat down on him. And the funny
- 29:29Speaker 2: thing was I had already had an interception in that
- 29:32Speaker 2: game and Luke had already had an interception that game.
- 29:38Speaker 2: They tried to run. Jason wentten across on a deep cross.
- 29:41Speaker 2: We are in cover two, so really the my cast
- 29:44Speaker 2: a run with number three over the middle, and Jason
- 29:46Speaker 2: went and did a good job understanding that it was
- 29:48Speaker 2: split high and so he's trying to really keep it
- 29:52Speaker 2: between the safeties. Luke is responsible with three as vertical
- 29:56Speaker 2: he's got a run with three, so Luke is just
- 29:58Speaker 2: tailing him Ryan under he's witting, and Romo loves that ball,
- 30:02Speaker 2: and I come across as a oh buddy, this is
- 30:04Speaker 2: number two. Next thing, I know, I don't know where
- 30:08Speaker 2: he got the jet packed, but Luke jumps up, intercepts it,
- 30:12Speaker 2: and I'm midair, so like this is all happening in milliseconds.
- 30:16Speaker 2: So I my face goes from yes to oh my gosh,
- 30:19Speaker 2: to okay, let me destroy Jason went and I just
- 30:22Speaker 2: clobber him and and you know, Luke gets a second interception,
- 30:28Speaker 2: and but I thought that was just such an amazing experience,
- 30:31Speaker 2: just as a team by me again, just again witnessing greatness,
- 30:36Speaker 2: like there's only so many people on this on this
- 30:39Speaker 2: earth that can actually make that play. And then the
- 30:41Speaker 2: second one of the of the season was our national
- 30:45Speaker 2: our NFC championship game. It was one of those weeks
- 30:48Speaker 2: where we had a crazy storm of snow and ice
- 30:51Speaker 2: and you know, you know, very un Charlatanian, and I
- 30:54Speaker 2: was not I was not happy. I was like I
- 30:56Speaker 2: left the North for this, But but it was it
- 31:00Speaker 2: was really magical kind of see our team because we
- 31:02Speaker 2: had an opportunity again to practice indoors, and everybody was like,
- 31:07Speaker 2: we're going outdoors. We are practicing in the snow. You
- 31:10Speaker 2: know that we had them kind of basically snowplow our
- 31:14Speaker 2: fields and it's like, let's get out here, let's get
- 31:16Speaker 2: it after this because when Arizona comes up here, they're
- 31:18Speaker 2: not going to know what hit him. And sure enough,
- 31:20Speaker 2: that's kind of the Again, the feeling that we had
- 31:23Speaker 2: is it didn't matter who we played. We knew we
- 31:26Speaker 2: were the better team and we were excited about just
- 31:28Speaker 2: again displaying all the things and having fun with it.
- 31:30Speaker 2: There was there's man, it was palpable the energy that
- 31:36Speaker 2: was out there amongst the fans, in our team, in
- 31:38Speaker 2: our locker room, all the things that we did, like
- 31:40Speaker 2: it was so much fun. Yes, we were winning, but
- 31:43Speaker 2: the winning didn't make it fun. We were having fun
- 31:47Speaker 2: and we got to win and that was what was
- 31:49Speaker 2: so cool. And obviously you know Luke's plant and drive,
- 31:52Speaker 2: I mean it is a coach a coach's clinic tape.
- 31:55Speaker 2: You know when people watch what he did to get
- 31:57Speaker 2: that take safe, perfect plant, and he knew it was coming.
- 32:01Speaker 2: That's the thing. He knew it was coming. He did
- 32:03Speaker 2: exactly what we worked on in the drills. Playing us
- 32:06Speaker 2: foot pot it ran it for a touchdown, someone falls
- 32:08Speaker 2: out of the out of the stand.
- 32:10Speaker 4: And he helps him up and picks him up.
- 32:12Speaker 1: This is the craziest thing for me.
- 32:15Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, man, I'm gonna come check on you
- 32:17Speaker 2: after I get done celebrated. But he literally stops in
- 32:20Speaker 2: the middle. It's you, you can't, you can't make this
- 32:24Speaker 2: up and so and just to be able to celebrate
- 32:27Speaker 2: with our team and our community. That was the two
- 32:30Speaker 2: special games that I You know, there's many more, but
- 32:33Speaker 2: those are the two that really stick out the most
- 32:34Speaker 2: of me.
- 32:35Speaker 4: Kurt. It was great man, You're always great to talk to.
- 32:37Speaker 5: And next interview, we're not going to ruin Luke's week
- 32:40Speaker 5: right with the Hall of Fame and all that. Next
- 32:42Speaker 5: interview is going to be all about how you made
- 32:44Speaker 5: Luke those three years. You know what I mean.
- 32:46Speaker 6: You just you gave them all the keys, all the secrets.
- 32:49Speaker 4: Uh, thank you so much for coming on.
- 32:52Speaker 7: Man.
- 32:52Speaker 4: We appreciate that was great.
- 32:54Speaker 2: Thank you guys. I appreciate you having me all.
- 32:56Speaker 4: I'd be good, Kurt.
- 32:57Speaker 6: The Kirk Colvin's safety Cans for three years would Keikley.
- 33:00Speaker 6: Do you can feel the love and appreciation he has
- 33:03Speaker 6: for a week coming through those stories, right?
- 33:04Speaker 4: I know?
- 33:05Speaker 5: I love the way everybody that was with him over
- 33:07Speaker 5: there talks about him. Man, you know, everyone their own
- 33:09Speaker 5: moments and their own stories. We come back a look
- 33:12Speaker 5: at the ACC and SEC media preseason polls.
- 33:17Speaker 4: Who was overrated? Who was underrated? Sports Radio nine.
- 33:36Speaker 7: He's one correct And with what he said yesterday he
- 33:40Speaker 7: ended this conversation Shay, it was virtuo. So it was brilliant.
- 33:45Speaker 7: A lot of back and forth the last two weeks,
- 33:47Speaker 7: and the SEC has lost this verbal battle, just like
- 33:50Speaker 7: they lost the battle on the football field. I don't
- 33:53Speaker 7: need to regurgitate the statue. Laid them out. He laid
- 33:57Speaker 7: them out. But he did it so effectively, so succinctly,
- 34:02Speaker 7: and with such force because he has the goods, he
- 34:05Speaker 7: has the receipts.
- 34:06Speaker 4: To back it up.
- 34:07Speaker 7: And as someone who as you well know, and some
- 34:10Speaker 7: of the audience can attest to, I have waived this
- 34:13Speaker 7: flag for the SEC for a long time. You have
- 34:16Speaker 7: to put that flag down at some point and just
- 34:19Speaker 7: let the field do the talking. Because all of the
- 34:23Speaker 7: back and forth, whether it's the commissioner, whether it's Nick
- 34:25Speaker 7: Saban last week saying the SEC is still the best
- 34:28Speaker 7: just makes the SEC look ridiculous.
- 34:33Speaker 5: Is that music to the ears of a lot of
- 34:35Speaker 5: you fans out there? That is Paul fine bomb Bone.
- 34:39Speaker 5: He did not wave a white flag during the interview,
- 34:42Speaker 5: but that was the verbal surrender. The Big Ten is kicking.
- 34:46Speaker 5: Our fannies were not the best anymore. They even beat
- 34:49Speaker 5: us off the field. He was talking about Kurt Signetti's
- 34:52Speaker 5: comments about the SEC where he body bagged them.
- 34:56Speaker 4: They beat us on the field. Oh not.
- 34:58Speaker 5: That's got to be heartwarming folks that are not fans
- 35:01Speaker 5: of the SEC to hear that right there from Ball. Absolutely,
- 35:06Speaker 5: Greg Sankie, you'll never hear that from Greg sank though, Bone.
- 35:08Speaker 5: Greg sanky just goes five. Hey, somebody find me some
- 35:11Speaker 5: metrics where we're still number one, all right, I don't
- 35:13Speaker 5: care what they are.
- 35:14Speaker 4: Just find me some.
- 35:14Speaker 6: Other mesage, no matter what, just find me something. Oh
- 35:18Speaker 6: my goodness, all right.
- 35:19Speaker 5: So I want let's I want to get to the
- 35:21Speaker 5: SEC here to segment, but I also want to talk
- 35:23Speaker 5: acc We are going to attempt Bone to explain what
- 35:27Speaker 5: happened in the courts with college football. In the next segment,
- 35:31Speaker 5: nine o'clock. We'll also talk about Charlotte FC losing to
- 35:35Speaker 5: a dang world class striker Robert Lewandowski in Chicago. Will
- 35:40Speaker 5: talk about the Braves the weekend. They had tons of wins,
- 35:43Speaker 5: multiple trades, all that stuff. But right now, though, let's
- 35:46Speaker 5: just we had not talked about it, Bone, we've been
- 35:48Speaker 5: so into different stuff. Let's find a couple of minutes,
- 35:51Speaker 5: like just with our thoughts on the ACC media poll
- 35:55Speaker 5: which was announced last week and the SEC media poll
- 35:58Speaker 5: which was announced I think ten days ago, and like
- 36:01Speaker 5: where they have teams and who sticks out to you
- 36:04Speaker 5: as overrated and underrated for the ACC. Will start there.
- 36:10Speaker 5: Miami obviously number one underrated for the ACC. I think
- 36:16Speaker 5: you could say Miami is underrated in this respect. Bone,
- 36:19Speaker 5: there were twenty three first place votes they didn't get.
- 36:23Speaker 4: How does that happen?
- 36:24Speaker 5: But anyway, they were overwhelming Number one SMU two, Louisville three,
- 36:30Speaker 5: Clemson four, Georgia Tech five, Virginia six, NC State seven.
- 36:35Speaker 5: Then you have Virginia Tech eight, Pitt nine, Duke ten,
- 36:39Speaker 5: Florida State eleven, col twelve, Wake thirteen, Syracuse fourteen, North
- 36:46Speaker 5: Carolina fifteen, Boston College sixteen, Stanford seventeen, but some loon
- 36:52Speaker 5: ball picked them with a first place.
- 36:54Speaker 4: Vote to win the conference.
- 36:56Speaker 6: Maggie used to be a lot easier when this conference
- 36:58Speaker 6: had nineteens. You didn't get winded. I think an oxygen mask.
- 37:02Speaker 6: So does anybody stick out to you? Overrated? Underrated in
- 37:07Speaker 6: this thing?
- 37:07Speaker 4: Bone?
- 37:08Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 37:08Speaker 6: I had four actually written down here. I think the
- 37:12Speaker 6: teams you wisted at five and six despite the progress
- 37:16Speaker 6: they've made the last couple of years. I think Georgia
- 37:19Speaker 6: Tech's got an adjustment without Haines King, who really was
- 37:22Speaker 6: everything for them the last handful of years. I think
- 37:25Speaker 6: they're overrated at five. Virginia made a lot of progress
- 37:28Speaker 6: last year. Are we completely buying in? They're better? But
- 37:32Speaker 6: are they six? So I think Georgia Tech Virginia go
- 37:36Speaker 6: to me in the overrated category.
- 37:37Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of buy that too, Like are they
- 37:39Speaker 5: they're not going to quite have the year that they
- 37:42Speaker 5: had last year for Georgia Tech the year they've had
- 37:44Speaker 5: the last couple You don't just loan lose Haines King,
- 37:47Speaker 5: a player that's special that is now of course with
- 37:50Speaker 5: the Panthers, and and not skip a beat, I'll then
- 37:54Speaker 5: tell I'll then piggyback off that and then people say,
- 37:57Speaker 5: here goes well pack Mack. But I look at NC
- 38:00Speaker 5: State and feel like they can be in that area
- 38:03Speaker 5: with the skin and listen.
- 38:04Speaker 4: Maybe I'm maybe I'm a homer, and maybe I'm wrong.
- 38:06Speaker 4: Lord knows.
- 38:07Speaker 5: I picked State this time of year in the pass
- 38:09Speaker 5: to be really good. Sometimes it's a missed, I've whiffed.
- 38:13Speaker 5: But I feel like with their schedule that they have
- 38:16Speaker 5: and with CJ. Bailey back at quarterback, I would put
- 38:19Speaker 5: them in that area where I think they can contend
- 38:21Speaker 5: for like fourth or fifth in the conference.
- 38:23Speaker 4: I think that that underrated for stake.
- 38:26Speaker 6: That five through nine and Duke will see, but five
- 38:30Speaker 6: through nine, you can flip all those around. I think
- 38:33Speaker 6: Georgia Tech, Virginia too high, State too low, Virginia Tech
- 38:38Speaker 6: too low. Although their schedules tough at the end, I
- 38:41Speaker 6: think you could go NC State five Virginia Tech.
- 38:45Speaker 4: I was thinking the same thing.
- 38:46Speaker 6: Yeah, and also a team that can steak up on
- 38:49Speaker 6: you some years. Don't sleep on Pittsburgh also being better
- 38:52Speaker 6: than number nine. Their quarterback was really good last year
- 38:55Speaker 6: as a freshman. I think Pittsburgh can be probably better
- 39:00Speaker 6: than the Virginia Jeordia Texas. Yeah, yeah, we always sleep on,
- 39:04Speaker 6: always sleep on him. And it feels like when we
- 39:06Speaker 6: don't pay attention to them is when we look up
- 39:08Speaker 6: and all of a sudden they're six and one in
- 39:10Speaker 6: the conference, and how that happened.
- 39:11Speaker 5: The only time we pay attention to Nardoozy in the
- 39:14Speaker 5: off season bone is when he does his annual the
- 39:17Speaker 5: acc is better than the Big ten speech. He did
- 39:20Speaker 5: that a couple of weeks ago, and we bagged on it.
- 39:23Speaker 5: But he can coach Florida State two. Not overrated at
- 39:26Speaker 5: number eleven. But how the heck did they get three
- 39:29Speaker 5: first place votes? That's a great question. Danny Canell sneak
- 39:32Speaker 5: three votes in the ej Manuel got one in there?
- 39:36Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? They ain't winning the dang conference?
- 39:39Speaker 5: But eleventh fifth probably feels about right. Wake Forest thirteen.
- 39:44Speaker 5: I wonder a few now, Gee Lopez back with his
- 39:47Speaker 5: South Alabama offensive coordinator.
- 39:50Speaker 4: Could Jake Dicker overachieve again a little bit?
- 39:53Speaker 6: He remember, just did spots. He did it last year
- 39:56Speaker 6: better than Col's. Also got a great quarterback too. Yeah,
- 40:00Speaker 6: what if they might be well? Florida State could definitely
- 40:03Speaker 6: be dropping down there a little bit, depending on how
- 40:05Speaker 6: their wooden shot. Their season goes.
- 40:07Speaker 5: Now in the SEC bone, it's going I'm gonna get
- 40:10Speaker 5: out of breath doing the SEC predicted or to finish two.
- 40:12Speaker 5: Because of the size of these conferences Georgia, I thought
- 40:16Speaker 5: they'd go Texas. I thought they'd pulling Ella Langley and
- 40:19Speaker 5: be choosing Texas Bone. But they did not. They went
- 40:21Speaker 5: Georgia number one, Texas two, oh Miss three, A and
- 40:27Speaker 5: M four, LSU five, Alabama six, Oklahoma seven, Tennessee eight,
- 40:33Speaker 5: Florida nine, miszoo Is at ten, South Carolina eleven, Auburn
- 40:40Speaker 5: with new coach Alex Golish twelve, Vanderbilt thirteen, Kentucky fourteen,
- 40:45Speaker 5: Mississippi State six point fifteen, and Arkansas sixteen. What strikes
- 40:50Speaker 5: you there as overrated or under ring game Cocks at eleven,
- 40:53Speaker 5: because I've already said that one here. I think they
- 40:56Speaker 5: are better at the best team that date. They're better
- 40:59Speaker 5: than Tennessee, They're better than Florida, They're better than Missouri,
- 41:03Speaker 5: although I will say I think Missouri at ten could
- 41:06Speaker 5: be another one there because Eli, much like Nardoozi, seems
- 41:10Speaker 5: to kind of have them better than you think. We'll
- 41:13Speaker 5: see about a Mott Hardy and after he got shot
- 41:16Speaker 5: and they bring in Austin Simmons at quarterback. Missouri could
- 41:19Speaker 5: be better, but I think South Carolina deserves to at
- 41:22Speaker 5: least be right there behind Alabama Oklahoma. I did their
- 41:26Speaker 5: at least the eighth best team in the SEC, if
- 41:28Speaker 5: not better. South Carolina to me, definitely feels underrated. I
- 41:32Speaker 5: am on board with them this year having a bounce
- 41:34Speaker 5: back season bone I do not view them as the
- 41:36Speaker 5: eleventh best team. And I think people, you know, Beemer
- 41:39Speaker 5: said it. We got a lot of the same stud
- 41:41Speaker 5: players that they vote that they loved last year going
- 41:44Speaker 5: into the season, and this year they don't love. I
- 41:47Speaker 5: love the Briles higher. I think they have addressed the
- 41:50Speaker 5: offensive line neat over and over again. In the portal,
- 41:53Speaker 5: Clayton White is a tremendous underrated defensive coordinator. To me,
- 41:57Speaker 5: that's a team that could win at like eight games.
- 42:00Speaker 5: Tames I could definitely see as far as overrated. I
- 42:03Speaker 5: did say Tennessee, and we've said that a lot, Matt.
- 42:06Speaker 5: Do you think anyone at the top is overrated or underrated?
- 42:09Speaker 5: It's we're now, We're now, you know, nitpicking the big
- 42:14Speaker 5: dogs here. You know a team that hasn't been talked
- 42:16Speaker 5: about a lot. We've talked about Georgia, We've talked about Texas.
- 42:20Speaker 5: I think A and M a little That's what I
- 42:21Speaker 5: was gonna say, talk about old Miss LSU. It feels
- 42:24Speaker 5: like we've talked about every team in the SEC, but
- 42:27Speaker 5: A and M just kind of sits there and no
- 42:29Speaker 5: one talks about, like, are we sure they're gonna follow
- 42:31Speaker 5: up and have a season? Last year they had a schedule,
- 42:33Speaker 5: an SEC schedule that was about as easy as you
- 42:36Speaker 5: can get in that conference. They lucked out with their
- 42:39Speaker 5: schedule drawl, and I feel like by the end of
- 42:42Speaker 5: the year bone they started to see okay. They might
- 42:45Speaker 5: have been a byproduct of who they were playing there
- 42:48Speaker 5: not saying they're not going to be good and Elk
- 42:49Speaker 5: goes a hell of a coach. I'll tell you what
- 42:51Speaker 5: I think's underrated is Oklahoma at seven. I think Oklahoma's
- 42:55Speaker 5: gonna be damn good. I think they're gonna have the
- 42:57Speaker 5: standard when it comes to defense in this league. They
- 43:00Speaker 5: got a ton back on defense, and I think John
- 43:02Speaker 5: Butttier was very affected by the injury last year. I
- 43:06Speaker 5: don't think it's any coincidence that John Mattier was considered
- 43:09Speaker 5: a highsman candidate before he got hurt, and then after
- 43:12Speaker 5: that was completely different. I think he was struggling to
- 43:15Speaker 5: throw the football with that injury, and I think a
- 43:17Speaker 5: healthy John Mattier with that defense. Like I honestly think
- 43:20Speaker 5: Oklahoma is a is a playoff team and a top
- 43:23Speaker 5: four SEC team.
- 43:24Speaker 6: I really do, man, I would say I think I
- 43:27Speaker 6: think Ole Miss is overratedble they do have Chambliss and
- 43:29Speaker 6: that makes up for a while. I don't think Pete
- 43:31Speaker 6: Golding is going to be anywhere near as good in
- 43:34Speaker 6: the long term as Leane Kiff it was, but they
- 43:36Speaker 6: do have Chambliss and Lacy back this year, so we
- 43:39Speaker 6: may not see a drop off this year. I wonder
- 43:43Speaker 6: long term, you know what happens there with Old Miss
- 43:47Speaker 6: bag would you maybe consider Auburn I would have underrated
- 43:51Speaker 6: because Byron Brown is going to be an There's some quarterbacks.
- 43:55Speaker 4: He's a low dude.
- 43:56Speaker 6: There are some quarterbacks down there at the bottom of
- 43:58Speaker 6: the SEC. Byron Brown at Auburn, Camarrio Taylor in Mississippi
- 44:02Speaker 6: State is getting a lot of run, so I wonder
- 44:05Speaker 6: if they may not win a ton. But those could
- 44:08Speaker 6: be some teams that knock off some teams along the way.
- 44:10Speaker 5: Bone, Gator fans are upset with you, and Pecante's upset
- 44:13Speaker 5: with you. Picante so upset you were on the air
- 44:15Speaker 5: of the other day. Conte says, we're upset we can't
- 44:18Speaker 5: get those ten minutes back of our life when you
- 44:21Speaker 5: were joining us on the radio. I do think I'm higher.
- 44:26Speaker 5: I'm with you on Tennessee. I am higher on Florida,
- 44:31Speaker 5: I think than you. I love John Summer all and
- 44:33Speaker 5: those weapons they have ball and then at running back,
- 44:37Speaker 5: Wilson and some of those other guys at receiver. The
- 44:41Speaker 5: only thing is is Aaron Filo any good? He was
- 44:43Speaker 5: Haynes King's backup, but he does get to team up
- 44:46Speaker 5: with his oc. They brought Buster Faulkner over from Georgia Tech.
- 44:51Speaker 5: They got talent on defense. I'm a bit higher on Florida.
- 44:54Speaker 5: I also Bone don't now they've voted Alabama six, so
- 44:58Speaker 5: maybe that's about right. I do not think Alabama is
- 45:01Speaker 5: a playoff team this year. I think some people maybe
- 45:03Speaker 5: not that poll, but I think some people are overrating
- 45:06Speaker 5: Alabama and putting them in like the top four.
- 45:07Speaker 6: I think Oklahoma's better than them. Like you said, I'm
- 45:11Speaker 6: high on Florida for the long term. I just don't
- 45:15Speaker 6: not in the short term. Yeah about Filos, the Filos,
- 45:19Speaker 6: the question I would have. I mean, look there, they'll
- 45:22Speaker 6: be better. I just don't know. I mean nine seems
- 45:26Speaker 6: like that. But if I'm gonna, if I'm gonna elevate
- 45:29Speaker 6: the game Cocks in Missouri, that someone's gonna have to drop.
- 45:32Speaker 6: So I think Florida's better than Tennessee. I'm not high
- 45:35Speaker 6: on Tennessee this year. I think it's I'm not sure
- 45:38Speaker 6: about Miszoo. I'm not sure about Missoo this year. I
- 45:41Speaker 6: usually Hardy's healthy, he's the best running back in the country.
- 45:45Speaker 6: That's great.
- 45:47Speaker 5: I just don't think the rest of the team around
- 45:49Speaker 5: him bone like I I've been on Missoo the last
- 45:51Speaker 5: couple of years. I don't get the feeling that they
- 45:54Speaker 5: are as stacked and as good as they have been
- 45:57Speaker 5: in the past. Do we know, I mean, what do
- 45:59Speaker 5: we know? Austin Simmons. You know, I know he's a genius.
- 46:03Speaker 5: I'm not sure we know about him as a football player.
- 46:05Speaker 5: Though graduated in two years at Ole mess Oh gosh,
- 46:09Speaker 5: that's what I did at Towson. I didn't tell you
- 46:10Speaker 5: the story about me GRADU go to school for two years?
- 46:14Speaker 6: All right, when we come back here on the Mac
- 46:15Speaker 6: Inbone Show. That was fun, good football chatter there. When
- 46:18Speaker 6: we come back here on the program, weekend recap, tons
- 46:21Speaker 6: of college football, tons of college sports happenings, including a
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