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Daniel Davis Deep Dive - Ukraine and Russia · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Tuesday Extra Special always every week at this time get
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  Speaker 1: talk to the retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis Deep Dives
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  Speaker 1: and in his podcast wherever you get your podcasts, you
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  Speaker 1: can check out what Daniel Davis has to say, providing
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  Speaker 1: some wonderful insight into well combat theaters. Welcome back, Daniel Davis.
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  Speaker 1: It's great to have you on the fifty five Carecen
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  Speaker 1: Morning Show. As always my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Always great to be here, Brian, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, lit before we get to and I'm guessing this
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  Speaker 1: has some connection with maybe some sort of peace negotiation
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  Speaker 1: between Putin and the Ukrainian President's Lensky. But Russia said
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  Speaker 1: it had successfully tested its Burro Vestnik cruise missile, described
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  Speaker 1: by Moscow as being capable of piercing any defense shield.
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump responds by saying, Hey, we do have nuclear
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  Speaker 1: submarine or a nuclear submarine off your shore, discussing the
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  Speaker 1: test is inappropriate. Is this all posturing related to Russia
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  Speaker 1: Ukraine or does this transcend that and involve more geopolitical
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  Speaker 1: global issues between Rush in the United States.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this transcends it.
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  Speaker 4: It's It's said, certainly is related to it, but it
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  Speaker 4: also goes beyond it. And this this bure ethnic UH
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  Speaker 4: missile H is this significant advancement technologically UH and and
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  Speaker 4: it just makes the job a lot more difficult to
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  Speaker 4: you know, Trump's earlier this summer he talked about wanting
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  Speaker 4: to have this big golden dome that would be this
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  Speaker 4: impervious shield that would protect us.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. It was never going to be the case.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of an aspirational situation because the
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  Speaker 4: technology of existing ICBMs and other kinds of hypersonic missiles,
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  Speaker 4: the irrashnic UH they already are, we don't have the
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  Speaker 4: capability to defend against any of those. This one adds
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  Speaker 4: a new layer of complexity. So it's just another thing
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  Speaker 4: that we couldn't intercept. And and it certainly our missiles
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  Speaker 4: are the same way for Russia. They can't intercept a
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  Speaker 4: majority of our missile force, either whether from a submarine
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  Speaker 4: or from a silo or a bomber that we may fire,
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  Speaker 4: et cetera. Basically, this just restates what are you exist.
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  Speaker 4: Don't go to nuclear war because it's going to be
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  Speaker 4: mutually assure destruction. That's the bottom line.
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  Speaker 1: Literally, just throw mutually assured destruction down because if you
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  Speaker 1: think about it, we were getting further away from the
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  Speaker 1: concept of mutually assured destruction because of our ability to
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  Speaker 1: shoot down rockets that are coming our way. Well, if
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  Speaker 1: you can't shoot down the rockets coming your way, they
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  Speaker 1: have it to a nuclear bombs. No one's gonna want
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  Speaker 1: to launch them. We've got the technology, they've got the technology.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it seems to me, at least in terms
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  Speaker 1: of cold war reality and nuclear reality, we're kind of
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  Speaker 1: back to a status quo thing here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't really change anything, just just on a
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  Speaker 4: technical capability and just looking at what this weapon will do.
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  Speaker 4: It is pretty amazing, we got to admit, because it has.
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  Speaker 4: It's as far as I'm aware, the first missile that
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  Speaker 4: uses nuclear fuel to actually propel it, which means basically
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  Speaker 4: kind of like an aircraft carrier, nuclear powered aircraft carrier
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  Speaker 4: that never in needs fuels, So it literally can fly
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  Speaker 4: forever or as long as the components will allow, which
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  Speaker 4: means it can fly all over the world. It can
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  Speaker 4: come in from angles where your weapon systems are not oriented,
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  Speaker 4: places where historically there was no threat, so nothing is
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  Speaker 4: off the table here. So it just adds another layer
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  Speaker 4: of don't get into a nuclear war, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: change anything in the overall game.
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  Speaker 1: As you pointed out, Well, and that's the first time
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  Speaker 1: I've ever had to describe that way. This sort of
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  Speaker 1: unlimited range kind of thing. You're talking about unlimited range
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  Speaker 1: at hypersonic speeds, it's actually subsonic speed. It's like a
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  Speaker 1: cruise missile.
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  Speaker 4: It's not too much dissimilar from our Tomahawk's cruise missile,
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  Speaker 4: except that it has no limits on range. It literally
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  Speaker 4: can fly everywhere because of the nuclear fuel.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's pivot back over to the actual fighting
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  Speaker 1: war going on between Russia and Ukraine. It appears as
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  Speaker 1: those Lensky's trying to entertain just another discussion on peace negotiations.
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  Speaker 1: Venue seems to be an issue, but he doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to move out of any area. He doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: seed the area to Russia. In other words, weak number whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Davis, we're kind of in the status quo position
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  Speaker 1: relative to the bargaining and the negotiations, are we not.
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  Speaker 4: The Ukraine side wants to have a just and lasting
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  Speaker 4: peace according to their definition. The Russians I actually had
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  Speaker 4: or will have on my show earlier this or later
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  Speaker 4: this morning. The ambassador, the deputy u N Ambassador for Russia,
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  Speaker 4: whom I point blank and impressed him and ask I said,
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  Speaker 4: if you don't get these these conditions.
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  Speaker 2: That you're asking for, what will you do?
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  Speaker 4: And he just says, we'll either get this negotiation or
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  Speaker 4: we'll win it on the battlefield.
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  Speaker 2: And he said there's no way around it, and he
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  Speaker 2: laid it out.
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  Speaker 4: Their conditions, which are which what Putin has said many
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  Speaker 4: times is the root causes of the war, the NATO,
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  Speaker 4: the you know, the so called demilitarization, denoxification, and the territory,
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  Speaker 4: et cetera. So you have what Zelenski's saying is a
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  Speaker 4: fair and just peace and what the Russians are saying
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  Speaker 4: are wholly incompatible. And then you have to look at
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  Speaker 4: who's got the military capacity. And right now, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we know where that's going to go, but there are
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  Speaker 4: two big pockets where up to ten thousand Ukrainian soldiers
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  Speaker 4: are in a cauldron right now, and if things don't
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  Speaker 4: change pretty quick, if they don't withdraw from those things,
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  Speaker 4: they could lose.
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  Speaker 2: Thousands of troops in a short period of time.
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  Speaker 4: As Russia just continues its relentless and methodical move forward.
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  Speaker 2: However slow it is, it still moves forward well.
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  Speaker 1: In addition to their own troops, Russia seems to have
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  Speaker 1: an extra source of troops. We've talked about this before,
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  Speaker 1: North Koreans on the front lines and providing some military
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  Speaker 1: assistance for this conflict. I just heard I believe it
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  Speaker 1: was this morning or yesterday, that the reward to North
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  Speaker 1: Korea may be that it's getting assistance from Russia insofar
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  Speaker 1: as the development of its chrismisi technology for nuclear weapons.
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  Speaker 1: Any suggestion of truth to that, Daniel Davis.
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  Speaker 4: That's been suggested from the beginning the first time that
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  Speaker 4: North Korean troops went into help Russians in the course CAREA.
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  Speaker 4: There's also been reports over the last couple of months
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  Speaker 4: that there could be as many as seventy thousand North
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  Speaker 4: Korean troops come over. And one of the things I
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  Speaker 4: suspect you, just from a military analyst specific perspective, is
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  Speaker 4: that the North Koreas that we're sending troops over there
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  Speaker 4: not so much of a big help to Russia because
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  Speaker 4: they don't really need it. And it's actually a headache
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  Speaker 4: to try and incorporate large formations that speak a different
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  Speaker 4: language and aren't used to operating.
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  Speaker 2: The way you do.
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  Speaker 4: As a stop to Kim Jong Lun for the artillery rounds,
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  Speaker 4: he's getting the missiles that the physical missiles he's been getting.
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  Speaker 4: He's getting combat experience for his troops that they haven't
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  Speaker 4: had since nineteen fifties. So and now then you see
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  Speaker 4: they're taking what they had already from the course area
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  Speaker 4: and they're expanding it within. So I think this is
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  Speaker 4: just an example and an opportunity for North Korea to
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  Speaker 4: expand its combat capability.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough on that, and you have brought up the
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  Speaker 1: troop experience component before, and it's something really worth noting
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  Speaker 1: considering that's a real powder keg going on in between
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  Speaker 1: North and South Korea as well.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, let's here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Let's die back over to Israel Gaza, as I said
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  Speaker 1: I think last week, and I've certainly mentioned in the
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  Speaker 1: Morning show, if you're shooting at each other, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how you can call it a cease fire. But
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  Speaker 1: there still seems to be some quote unquote warfare going
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  Speaker 1: on right now. What's where are we with with with
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  Speaker 1: moving toward phase two? Phase one declaration of a cease
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  Speaker 1: fire obviously these complications with that, but we need to
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  Speaker 1: move forward with the peace process.
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  Speaker 2: Is it falling apart?
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  Speaker 4: Daniel Davis, Uh, I'm not sure it ever fell together completely.
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  Speaker 2: So so yeah, that uh, it's it's definitely tenuous, is
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  Speaker 2: the best you can put it.
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  Speaker 4: But there continues to be uh, you know, offensive operations
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  Speaker 4: going on in the Gaza Strip, in the West Bank,
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  Speaker 4: in Lebanon, uh, even some in Yemen of recent days,
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  Speaker 4: and uh, the there's there's different stories. You can decide
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  Speaker 4: who you want to believe. We don't really know really
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  Speaker 4: where the truth is. You have Hamas sand with a
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  Speaker 4: red Cross that they're doing everything they can to get
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  Speaker 4: the remainder of those uh ceased hostage remains back. The
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  Speaker 4: Israeli set said, no, we have intelligence that they're holding
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  Speaker 4: on to them and they're not returning them, and so
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  Speaker 4: that we're going to go back in maybe militarily, et cetera.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna push the so called Yellow line back further
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  Speaker 4: into them. We're going to reduce the amount of food
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  Speaker 4: aid going into the entire Gauza Strip, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 4: whatever you may view on the situation, you can't do
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  Speaker 4: that international law. You can't punish an entire population because
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  Speaker 4: of what the leadership of the Hamas is doing.
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  Speaker 2: But that's what's happening right.
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  Speaker 4: Now, and so that is just it continues to undermine
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  Speaker 4: trust in all directions, if there was any at all.
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  Speaker 2: And it is better than it was, but it's not.
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  Speaker 4: It's not really a cease far and so far until
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  Speaker 4: you get those hostage remains back, or at least that resolved.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they're even going to start negotiation for
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  Speaker 4: the so called phase two. So I think we're still
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  Speaker 4: in a sort of phase one ish time.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, in so far and before we part covey here
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  Speaker 1: getting the hostages, the decease hostages back. I think you
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  Speaker 1: had previously suggest that this isn't really Hamas foot dragging
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  Speaker 1: so much as they just don't know where the remains
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  Speaker 1: might happen to be.
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  Speaker 2: Is that still your.
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  Speaker 4: Perception, not that they didn't know where they were, but
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  Speaker 4: that they couldn't get at them. Oh, but now, of
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  Speaker 4: course the Israeli side is saying, no, they do know
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  Speaker 4: where they are, they know how to get them, and
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  Speaker 4: they're just not giving them up. And I'm not in
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  Speaker 4: a position to say whether that's true or not true.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the accusation.
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  Speaker 4: So both sides are lobbying counter accusations, and you know
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  Speaker 4: we have the risk of this thing blowing back up
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  Speaker 4: at any time.
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  Speaker 2: That's the bottom line.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe prayer is in order since we don't really have
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  Speaker 1: any easies.
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  Speaker 2: See there is, and I do that on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 1: Amen, Brother, pray for the folks that are dealing with
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  Speaker 1: those terrible situations. Daniel Davis deep dive again, get it
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  Speaker 1: next week.
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  Speaker 2: Sir, always my pleasure, my friends, see you next week.
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