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Bonus Episode - Great Girl Groups au Go Go · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more disgrace Land in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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Speaker 1: episode of disgrace Sland to the other, the backyard to
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Speaker 1: dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are
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Speaker 1: talking about this week's episode subject the Go Gos. We're
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Speaker 1: previewing the coming Marilyn Manson episode, getting into some recommendations
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Speaker 1: and some subversive nineties talk, and we go through your voicemails,
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Speaker 1: text DMS emails and as always, a whole lot of rosie.
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Speaker 1: All right, this goes, Let's get into it, all right,
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Speaker 1: The Go Gos this week's full episode subject of Disgrace.
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Speaker 1: And they did something that no one has ever done before.
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Speaker 1: They were the first group of all female musicians to
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Speaker 1: have a number one album of songs that they wrote themselves.
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Speaker 1: And that's noteworthy, as we discussed in the episode, because
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Speaker 1: at the beginning of their career they were told by
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Speaker 1: music industry insiders, namely record executives, that they couldn't expect
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Speaker 1: to write their own songs and have a hit album.
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Speaker 1: But that's exactly what they did. So the obvious question then,
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Speaker 1: is are the go Gos the greatest group of female
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Speaker 1: musicians in pop music history? Now? I both love and
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Speaker 1: hate these big dumb questions. I love them because as
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Speaker 1: dumb as they are, they force us to have a
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Speaker 1: conversation about things. I dislike them immensely because they are
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Speaker 1: so basic and they are they are so limiting, and
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Speaker 1: they eliminate any nuance and that can be a drag.
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Speaker 1: But hey, we do the nuance thing in the full
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Speaker 1: episode for these after parties. Let let's get the conversation going.
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Speaker 1: To do that, we need to say the obvious thing here,
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Speaker 1: which is that there are plenty of women who have
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Speaker 1: had number one albums. Okay, Taylor Swift has fourteen number
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Speaker 1: one albums, for God's sake, but there's also Madonna, barbar
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Speaker 1: streisand there's others. Now, Taylor and Madonna relied on co
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Speaker 1: writers for the songs on their number one albums. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Taylor Swift doesn't write her own songs.
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Speaker 1: Don't hear this the wrong way. She does write her
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Speaker 1: own songs, she just writes them with Jack Antonoff and
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Speaker 1: other people. Okay, other people have a hand in it.
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Speaker 1: That wasn't the case with the Go Gos. They wrote
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Speaker 1: their own songs as the band members of their band. Okay. Madonna,
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Speaker 1: same thing, first album. I don't think she wrote anything
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Speaker 1: on it. Then she got some success. She co wrote
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Speaker 1: with other musicians True Blue in particular, huge album for
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Speaker 1: her number one. I think they're all co writes on that.
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Speaker 1: Barbara Streisan, to my knowledge, didn't write any of the
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Speaker 1: songs on her number ones. I did a little bit
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Speaker 1: of research into this and Brittany Beyonce, Janet Jackson. It's
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Speaker 1: not like they were holed up in a dingy rehearsal
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Speaker 1: space writing their own tunes. Okay, they had writers and
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Speaker 1: or co writers crafting their hits as well. And again,
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Speaker 1: there are zero girl groups. Everyone I just talked about
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Speaker 1: was a solo artist. There are zero girl groups with
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Speaker 1: number one albums who wrote their own songs. Diana Ross
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Speaker 1: and the Supremes, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Dixie Chicks or
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Speaker 1: the Chicks. I'm sorry, Spice Girls, TLC, Dannity Kane, Black Pink.
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Speaker 1: None of you did what the go gos did to
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Speaker 1: achieve your number one albums, and that is write your
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Speaker 1: own tunes. All right. It's such a singular achievement that
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Speaker 1: I I can't even find a proper list from Rolling Stone,
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Speaker 1: the magazine of record. When it comes to stupid lists,
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Speaker 1: I can't even find a real list of greatest girl
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Speaker 1: groups of all time from freaking Rolling Stone. So Billboard
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Speaker 1: has a list, but it's paywalld and I'm not paying
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Speaker 1: for it. US Weekly has a list, but it isn't ranked,
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Speaker 1: which doesn't do us much good. So let's see what
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Speaker 1: the robots have to say. All right, Google's AI their
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Speaker 1: Gemini product. When prompted with the question who are the
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Speaker 1: greatest girl groups of all time? Gemini answers with the
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Speaker 1: following The Supremes, Spice Girls, Destiny's Child are widely considered
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Speaker 1: the greatest girl groups of all time. Now, when I
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Speaker 1: ask chat GPT the same thing, chat GPT gives me
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Speaker 1: the following answer and ranked list. So here's the answer again.
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Speaker 1: The question is who are the greatest girl groups of
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Speaker 1: all time? Chat GPT, the artificial intelligence says the best
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Speaker 1: girl groups of all time can vary depending on criteria
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Speaker 1: commercial success, cultural impact, critical acclaim, or fan based devotion.
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Speaker 1: Here's a comprehensive list that includes influential and successful girl
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Speaker 1: groups from various genres and eras. All right, so here's
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Speaker 1: the ranked list, in reverse order from chat GPT. Number ten, Brownstone,
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Speaker 1: I've never heard of them, number nine, the raw Nets,
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Speaker 1: all right, I get that, eight and Vogue, I get that.
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Speaker 1: The Supremes are at seven. Yep. Six is Little Mix,
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Speaker 1: a group I've never heard of. Five Girls Generation that's
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Speaker 1: kpop that I've never heard of. Black Pink is at
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Speaker 1: number four. I believe Black Pink is the woman from
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Speaker 1: White Lotus three, Destiny's Child two TLC and number one
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Speaker 1: Spice Girls. That is a tough list for a number
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Speaker 1: of reasons. I'm not even gonna get into it. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Raw Nets are way too low, That's all I'll say. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So the chat GBT robot included other lists as well,
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Speaker 1: unprompted because chatch GPT does write by me. Okay, I
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Speaker 1: guess let's see chatch GPT. The good little robot it
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Speaker 1: gave me are okay, critically acclaimed and culturally important Okay,
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Speaker 1: so that's this list. Here for the groups on that list,
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Speaker 1: oh sorry, for the groups I'm a critically inclaimed and
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Speaker 1: culturally important list are groups that I just that were
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Speaker 1: in the top ten, So I'm not going to get
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Speaker 1: into that. And then gives me a list of underrated
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Speaker 1: and cult favorites. And when I saw that as the
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Speaker 1: heading as the headline, I thought, Okay, here we go.
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Speaker 1: This is where the Go Gos are going to end up.
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Speaker 1: So here's the list. Number five on the list of
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Speaker 1: best underrated and cult favorite girl groups. Number five the Bengals,
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Speaker 1: number four, SWV, number three All Saints, number two Sugar Babes,
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Speaker 1: and number one Danity Kane. The Go Gos are nowhere
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Speaker 1: to be found on any of these lists, which makes
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Speaker 1: zero sense. Zero. The Go Gos were not the Runaways.
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Speaker 1: The Go Gos were not even the Frickin' Bangles. They
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Speaker 1: were so much more. It's beyond discouraging that AI two
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Speaker 1: different AI applications, mind you, It's beyond discouraging that AI
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Speaker 1: hasn't recognize this band. It's alarming. Actually, now you might
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Speaker 1: be shaking your head saying, well, it's just AI, and
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Speaker 1: who gets a shit about AI? And I would say, yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: but artificial intelligence is a reflection of the actual intelligence
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Speaker 1: that is currently on the Internet, okay, Or I would
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Speaker 1: say the lack of intelligence that is currently on the Internet.
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Speaker 1: How the girl group that wrote their own songs and
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Speaker 1: had the first and the only number one record in
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Speaker 1: history of pop music that were not one hit wonders
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Speaker 1: who had follow up hits, a significant career, significant post
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Speaker 1: careers for its members, was just recently inducted into the
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Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and is still performing
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Speaker 1: on relevant bills with other relevant artists. How they're not
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Speaker 1: number one on this list, never mind just completely excluded
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Speaker 1: from these lists is beyond me. It's like the Go
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Speaker 1: Gos have descended back into subterranean punk rock obscurity as
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Speaker 1: it concerns the mainstream the masses. This should not be
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Speaker 1: taken lightly. AI may not take my job as a
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Speaker 1: guy who writes about music, but it's going to be
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Speaker 1: the first veil of history. It's going to be the
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Speaker 1: source that most people in the future reference first when
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Speaker 1: they're looking for quick facts and quick views into the past.
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Speaker 1: And the fact that the Go Gos aren't even mentioned
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Speaker 1: is a freaking disgrace. Okay, I feel like Belinda Carlisle
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Speaker 1: pissed off some robots or something. I have no idea
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Speaker 1: what's going on here. It makes no sense. Maybe I'm
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Speaker 1: in the minority. Maybe the Go Gos weren't that good.
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Speaker 1: Maybe the Go Gos weren't that significant. Maybe because they
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Speaker 1: come from punk rock, I elevate them somewhat in my
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Speaker 1: mind for some reason, But I don't think so. I mean,
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Speaker 1: those songs were ubiquitous, they were everywhere. They were stow
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Speaker 1: cold hits, they're still being played. I just cannot get
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Speaker 1: with the fact that they're not recognized here. It doesn't
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Speaker 1: make any sense. And if you want a deeper look
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Speaker 1: into why I feel this way, obviously check out this
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Speaker 1: week's full episode. We just released it a couple days ago,
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna find out where you guys stand on
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Speaker 1: this and what you guys think and who you think
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Speaker 1: the greatest girl groups are of all time when we
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Speaker 1: get into your voicemails and your text and your dms
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Speaker 1: in a bit. But before that, I gotta tell you.
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Speaker 1: I got to tell you guys about the upcoming rewind
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Speaker 1: episode that's hitting your feeds after this one. That episode
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Speaker 1: is on Madonna and it's freaking awesome. And in it
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Speaker 1: I discuss some of the wilder moments in Madonna's career,
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Speaker 1: of course, but I also talk about one of my
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Speaker 1: favorite songs of all time, a Madonna song, but a
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Speaker 1: song Madonna did not write, a song called Borderline, and
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Speaker 1: it features one of the coolest music cues that we've
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Speaker 1: ever created in Disgrace. And so check that episode out.
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Speaker 1: It's coming your way next in your feed for some
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Speaker 1: throwback disgraceand vibes. And next week on Tuesday, per your request. Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's a brand new episode on Marilyn Manson and Oh
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Speaker 1: the inn humanity, What this guy did, what this guy
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Speaker 1: admitted to doing, the staggering level of rock star hubris
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Speaker 1: and depravity. This episode is going to give the Ggi
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Speaker 1: Allen episode from our archive a run for its money,
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Speaker 1: all right, And when you're listening to this episode, I
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Speaker 1: want you guys to be thinking about who the most
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Speaker 1: subversive artist of the nineteen nineties was. Was it Marilyn Manson,
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Speaker 1: was it gg Allen? Was it Madonna? Was it someone else?
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Speaker 1: Let me know, I'm gonna be talking a little bit
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Speaker 1: more about this in the bonus section of this after
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Speaker 1: Party Today. Six one seven, nine oh six sixty sixty
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Speaker 1: three eight. Leave me a voicemail, send me a text
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Speaker 1: on your thoughts on Marilyn Manson, the subversiveness of the
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Speaker 1: nineteen nineties. Marilyn Manson as an artist? Was he the
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Speaker 1: most subversive artist of the nineties? Six one seven, nine
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Speaker 1: oh six, six six three eight voicemail and text I
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Speaker 1: want to know? Hit me up. I'll respond in next
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Speaker 1: week's after Party episode. You may hear your own voicemail,
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Speaker 1: or you may hear me read your text right here
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Speaker 1: next week. I'll be back in a minute after the
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Speaker 1: short break with your answers to last week's questions, your voicemails,
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Speaker 1: your text, your emails. All right, we're back. Apple podcast listeners,
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Speaker 1: Disgrace Sam six one seven, nine oh six sixty six
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Speaker 1: three eight. You know where I'm at. I'm in the
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Speaker 1: phone booth. It's the same one I'm in all every week.
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Speaker 1: It's the one across the hall, hanging on the telephone.
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Speaker 1: You guys, want to send me a voice mean I
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Speaker 1: want to send me a text. Get at me six
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Speaker 1: one seven, nine oh six sixty six three eight, just
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Speaker 1: like Tony from the two oh six.
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Speaker 2: Jake, what's happening? Brothers? Tony from the two O six.
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Speaker 2: I know it's been a minute. I talked to you,
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Speaker 2: uh to answer your question or who's the greatest girl
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Speaker 2: group there is? The Go Gos? I definitely say the
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Speaker 2: Go Gos, but I also say the Bengals. I always
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Speaker 2: thought the two of them would make for an interesting
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Speaker 2: versus battle if you remember the verses from the Lockdown era.
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Speaker 2: I always thought the two of them going head to
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Speaker 2: head over who had the better songs would be interesting.
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Speaker 2: So much love from the two six and I'll ha
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Speaker 2: let you later, peace.
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Speaker 1: Tony and the two h six. Thanks for the comment, man,
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Speaker 1: I get the Bengals love I do, I don't. I
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Speaker 1: just don't rank them as high as the Go Gos,
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Speaker 1: And for various reasons, I don't want to beat a
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Speaker 1: dead horse, but mainly it's it's just the hits. The
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Speaker 1: hits are stronger, and the Go Gos came first as well.
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Speaker 1: You gotta give him some credit for that. Johnny Vinyl
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Speaker 1: from the six one seven what's up? Brother, Let's hear
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Speaker 1: what Johnny's gotta say?
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Speaker 3: Andy, what's up?
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Speaker 4: Jacobs?
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Speaker 3: Johnny Vinyl answering the question of the week, who's the
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Speaker 3: best all girl band? So I have to say the
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Speaker 3: Runaways have a slight edge over the Go Gos, and
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Speaker 3: then the Go Gos set the stage for the Bengals,
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Speaker 3: so I would say it goes in that order.
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Speaker 4: Throwing there for honorable mention, Pixon absolutely for the nineties,
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Speaker 4: you have to pick L seven. And another honorable mention
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Speaker 4: is the band Veruka Salt, where two out of the
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Speaker 4: four members were the lead singers, guitarists and wrote all
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Speaker 4: songs and they were amazing in the nineties.
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Speaker 3: So that's your lineup right there. You know, I can't
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Speaker 3: stick to just one, but great episode of The Go
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Speaker 3: Gos had me laughing with the whole situation of Ozzie
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Speaker 3: kicking forget what her name is, but kicking her out
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Speaker 3: of the hotel room. You have to be pretty fucked
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Speaker 3: up to have Ausie kick you out anyway, brother, have
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Speaker 3: a good one.
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Speaker 1: Johnny, appreciate the voicemail as always, great list, and you're
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Speaker 1: kind of throwing what I just said back in my face.
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Speaker 1: You're putting the Runaways at number one because it came
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Speaker 1: before the Go Gos, And yeah, I get how you
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Speaker 1: can do that. They did not have the hits that
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Speaker 1: the Go Gos had, obviously, and they neither did they
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Speaker 1: write their own songs. I don't believe. I think it
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Speaker 1: was all Kim Fowley, right, but I get it, and
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Speaker 1: I love how you mentioned L seven. No one's brought
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Speaker 1: them up yet to me. Actually, someone on on Instagram did,
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Speaker 1: but I love that. We got it in voicemail form
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Speaker 1: here and Veruka Salt as well. Huge, great call. Appreciate you,
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Speaker 1: my man. Six one seven nine oh six six six
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Speaker 1: three eight. You guys want to send me a voicemail.
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Speaker 1: Next week's question of the Week is going to be
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Speaker 1: on the nineties artists who were the most subversive? Is
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Speaker 1: it Marilyn Manson? Is it somebody else? It was it
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Speaker 1: gg Allen Gigi and died in nineteen ninety three, so
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Speaker 1: I don't know that we can say that. But the
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Speaker 1: six one seven here right saying hey gg Allen episode,
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Speaker 1: you mentioned the pit in Harvard Square. It's gone now,
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Speaker 1: which pisses me off, but it hadn't been the same
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Speaker 1: since the early two thousands. However, it was a special
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Speaker 1: place for me from about nineteen eighty seven to nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety two, you and me both. I didn't have any
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Speaker 1: friends in the pit because I wasn't from Boston, but
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Speaker 1: I was hanging out there on weekends. My dad lived
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Speaker 1: in the city. I was from the Burbs from my mom,
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Speaker 1: and I would come in. I'd go to Neo Reecomics,
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Speaker 1: I get some pizza in the mall there. I forget
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Speaker 1: the name of that place. Still smell that pizza though,
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I'd go hang out in the pit, and
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Speaker 1: you know, i'd hope to not get beat up by
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Speaker 1: the skinheads. And I just sort of gaze upon the
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Speaker 1: punk rockers and think, you know, what the hell are
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Speaker 1: these fucking gutter punk kids all about? As well? It's
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Speaker 1: a whole thing, man. And six one seven we probably
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Speaker 1: crossed paths eight two eight texts in Hey, just finishing
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Speaker 1: up the Sign of the Times bonus episode, and thought
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Speaker 1: i'd throw you some PNC Park pics. I gotta love
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh sports fans. I got I gotta cut this this
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Speaker 1: text or off for a minute here. You know, I
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Speaker 1: mentioned a Pittsburgh Pirates hat once. Maybe twice, and the
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh fans come out of the woodwork. It's I can't
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Speaker 1: tell you how many how many texts I've got and
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Speaker 1: voicemails from and Instagram messages, just Pittsburgh sports fans, maybe
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Speaker 1: Pirates fans just looking to talk. You know what it
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Speaker 1: reminds me of. It reminds me of my dog Dusty, who, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, someone says the word walk and she comes out,
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Speaker 1: she goes. Someone say walk, someone say walk. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's like you mentioned the Pirates. It's like pirates. You
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Speaker 1: guess what I'm talking about, the Pirates. That's that's the
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh fans. I love it. And this one sends in
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Speaker 1: these I'll read the rest of the text. Uh. These
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Speaker 1: pictures are probably mostly from Yankees' visits. Since I'm a
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Speaker 1: transplanted Connecticut native Lee, I appreciate the text. And you
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Speaker 1: have a beautiful ballpark there in Pittsburgh, gorgeous. Someday I
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Speaker 1: hope to visit. Thank you three oh three rights in Hey.
16:10
Speaker 1: If you need research help with hairbands, that's my jam.
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Speaker 1: I read Circus and Hip Parader magazines cover to cover
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Speaker 1: every month for almost a decade, starting in the eighties,
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Speaker 1: listen three oh three. Appreciate you. I might take you
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Speaker 1: up on your offer at some point. I just found
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Speaker 1: out that the singer for Warrant died? Is that true?
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Speaker 1: Is that true? And if you guys could have one
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Speaker 1: episode on one hairband, who would it be? Let's let's
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Speaker 1: let's make a quick, little, quick little run down here. Poison.
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking these are all bands I despise, by the way. Okay, now,
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Speaker 1: no shade. If you like them, I get it, you know,
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Speaker 1: I guess the older I get a Poison song comes on.
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Speaker 1: I have some nostalgia for it. But let's just go.
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Speaker 1: I'm excluding Motley Crue. Let's just go five hairbands. You
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Speaker 1: can get one episode on them, Poison, skid Row, Warrant, Winger,
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Speaker 1: and then I don't know dealer's choice for number five.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Faster, Pussycat, Cinderella, who we
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Speaker 1: talking about. I can do one. Now, don't just be
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Speaker 1: selfish and be like I like that band, therefore it's
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Speaker 1: number one. Come at me voicemail six point seven nine
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Speaker 1: six six sixty three eight text, Come at me with
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Speaker 1: what you think will make the best hair metal episode. Okay,
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Speaker 1: which now now to your point three H three. I
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Speaker 1: was not. I was reading Hipparator in Circus, but I
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Speaker 1: was skipping those articles. And I definitely wasn't putting Jennie
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Speaker 1: Lane up on my wall. No shade if you were.
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Speaker 1: But you know, some of you know way better than
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Speaker 1: I the history of these bands, these hair metal bands.
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Speaker 1: So I want the one. I want the I want
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Speaker 1: the ones with the most criminality in their background. Is
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Speaker 1: it skid row? Is it is it? I don't think
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Speaker 1: it is. Is it poison? I don't think it is. Again,
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Speaker 1: Motley Crue does not count. We have a new episode
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Speaker 1: of Nikki six come your way, and we of course
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Speaker 1: have an episode on Motley Crue, so we're gonna have two.
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Speaker 1: So there you go. But get at me, hair metal fans.
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Speaker 1: Let me know three Oho two rites in as a
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Speaker 1: teenager in the eighties and the nineties. He grew up
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Speaker 1: with a mom that was hyper concerned about what neighbors thought.
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Speaker 1: This banger was so important to me, and that banger
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Speaker 1: is salt and Peppa's none of your business. And this
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Speaker 1: is on the heels of the Sign of the Times
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Speaker 1: episode that we did on Prince Who. We were talking
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Speaker 1: about which artists best represented their generation, and the three
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Speaker 1: oh two wrote in a head of that text, I'm
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Speaker 1: so mad at myself for not mentioning TLC and Salt
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Speaker 1: and Peppa in the Sign of the Times conversation. Both
18:35
Speaker 1: bands were huge and making a statement about feminism and
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Speaker 1: safe sex during the AIDS epidemic. And you're absolutely right
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Speaker 1: they were, and they were females. So it's apropos of
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Speaker 1: our conversation right now this week, as well as our
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Speaker 1: conversation last week. Thank you three oh two for tying
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Speaker 1: it all together. You guys are the best listeners. Appreciate you.
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Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six sixty three eight
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Speaker 1: Paul over in the UK on Facebook rights. Hey, it's
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Speaker 1: Paul from the plus four fours. That's the UK. In
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Speaker 1: case that's lost in translation, working my way back through
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Speaker 1: your amazing back catalog and am still stuck in the
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Speaker 1: past somewhere in twenty twenty three when you're asking for recommendations.
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Speaker 1: Don't worry, Paul. We were asking for recommendations last week
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Speaker 1: as well. We do it from time to time. Recommendtions
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Speaker 1: on stories to cover, and I thought to cast an
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Speaker 1: eye to the future and see if you've covered Wales
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Speaker 1: his very own Manic Street Preachers, and was surprised to
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Speaker 1: see that you hadn't definitely something there regarding Richie's disappearance.
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Speaker 1: Surely no worries. If not, I'll still continue to enjoy
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Speaker 1: what you do. Offer many thanks my good sir, Cheerio
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Speaker 1: and Tootlepip Paul. He really did write Cheerio and Tootlepip Paul.
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Speaker 1: Richie Edwards disappearance singer of Manick Street Preachers. I looked
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Speaker 1: into this pretty significantly a bunch of years ago. It
19:57
Speaker 1: was the subject that Payne Lindsay and I were going
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Speaker 1: to cover before we get into the Dead and Gone podcast,
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Speaker 1: and we just could not come up with enough information.
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Speaker 1: There's really not a lot of information out there, so
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Speaker 1: it's a tough subject to cover, but that doesn't stop
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Speaker 1: me in the past. I think we could do one
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Speaker 1: episode for sure, and Paul, we will probably get into
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Speaker 1: that sometime in the near future. Okay, so by the
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Speaker 1: time you catch up, hopefully that'll be sitting in your
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Speaker 1: RSS feed. Thanks Paul at Disgrace Sandpod on Facebook, x
20:28
Speaker 1: and on Twitter. You guys want to get at me
20:30
Speaker 1: about any subject, that's where you can do it. It
20:32
Speaker 1: can be anything music related, it can be anything podcast related.
20:35
Speaker 1: It can be anything related to the books that we
20:37
Speaker 1: discuss here. It can be anything related to the sports
20:39
Speaker 1: that we sometimes very seldomly discussed in these little thirty
20:43
Speaker 1: second sports rants that I've been doing. And I have
20:44
Speaker 1: to just say here to all my Pirates fans out there,
20:46
Speaker 1: I feel you. I feel like we're becoming one of you.
20:49
Speaker 1: As Boston fans. We are melding. I say that because
20:52
Speaker 1: the Red Sox it's not even June and the Red
20:55
Speaker 1: Sox are dead. We need to lay the Red Sox out,
20:58
Speaker 1: Lay them out down to McNally's funeral home, head over
21:01
Speaker 1: to the old timers for a shot of jamison, a
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Speaker 1: pine of guinness. Because the Red Sox are dead as
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Speaker 1: a door nail. They're what two three games under five
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Speaker 1: hundred at this point, seven ish games out of first
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Speaker 1: in a not so great division. It's time for me,
21:16
Speaker 1: I think, to put my Mets hat on and hope
21:18
Speaker 1: for a Subway series in October and come at the
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Speaker 1: Yankees that way. This is embarrassing. They shouldn't be this
21:25
Speaker 1: bad of the Red Sox. They should not be this bad.
21:28
Speaker 1: I don't care the Bregman's hurt. I don't care. The
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Speaker 1: cast is hurt. They have the horses, they're not playing them,
21:34
Speaker 1: and the ones they are playing are sucking there. I
21:37
Speaker 1: don't know what's up. It's just management, coaching, playing, it's everything.
21:41
Speaker 1: It's fucking awful. Okay. I can't stand it. I can't
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Speaker 1: stand that we have a payroll as high as we
21:47
Speaker 1: have and we are not in contention. I can't stand
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Speaker 1: that we have an iconic team, an iconic ballpark, the
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Speaker 1: best fans in sports, and we are out of contention.
21:57
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Speaker 1: his blood. His father, Rocky Johnson, was the first black
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Speaker 1: wrestler to win the Georgia Heavyweight Championship. Now he was
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Speaker 1: of simone wrestler Peter Myvea. Rocky Johnson had trained as
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Speaker 1: a ball sparring with guys like George Foreman and Muhammad Ali,
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Speaker 1: but he gained some popularity in wrestling working the regional
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Speaker 1: invited him to crash at his house and they were friendly,
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Speaker 1: a few weeks before moving on. But wrestler couldn't be
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Speaker 1: to knock the shit out of that night. The good
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Speaker 1: guy aka the Face didn't palad around with the bad
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Speaker 1: guy aka the Heel. For Peter my Villa, it was
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Speaker 1: more than that. Guys in the business had problems drinking, drugs, violence.
23:49
Speaker 1: He was no saint himself. Normal folks didn't get into wrestling,
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Speaker 1: so there weren't many wrestlers that were normal. Therefore, there
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Speaker 1: weren't many wrestlers if Peter my Villa wanted to hang
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Speaker 1: around with, and there certainly weren't many he wanted hanging
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Speaker 1: around his daughter, So when Rocky Johnson started flirting with
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Speaker 1: Peter my VA's daughter, Peter did his best to shut
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Speaker 1: it down. Unfortunately, this match was scripted. They fell in
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Speaker 1: love and ran off to get married without my VIA's blessing.
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Speaker 1: Two years later, in time to meet his grandson, Little Dwayne,
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Speaker 1: Peter my Villa admitted defeat his daughter had married Russell.
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24:53
Speaker 1: me in the email format. I unleashed a dragon last
24:57
Speaker 1: week when I brought up Fish. The Fish fans are
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Speaker 1: the Fish fans are plentiful, and the Fish fans are
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Speaker 1: full throated. Now there will be a Fish episode, and
25:08
Speaker 1: I will bring love and intention to the creation of
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Speaker 1: that episode, and it will come within this calendar year.
25:14
Speaker 1: Fish fans, I have heard you speak, I have heard
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Speaker 1: you roar. This email comes from Lacey McNairy and I'm
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Speaker 1: reading it because it is this apropos of what we're
25:23
Speaker 1: doing right now. Subject Fish message. Hey Jake, it's Lacey
25:28
Speaker 1: from the five h two. Just turned your bonus episode
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Speaker 1: where you talked about Fish and how you love the who.
25:34
Speaker 1: You may be interested to know that Fish covered the
25:36
Speaker 1: whole Quadraphenia album at their Halloween show in Chicago back
25:39
Speaker 1: in the day. I was there and I had a blast.
25:42
Speaker 1: Here's a link. Lacey, appreciate the email. I did not
25:45
Speaker 1: know that, and I believe I said that. You know,
25:48
Speaker 1: I love the Who now, it was a long road
25:50
Speaker 1: getting to love the Who. I didn't grow up loving
25:53
Speaker 1: the Who, like I didn't grow up loving the Fish.
25:55
Speaker 1: And I liked that the fish. I'm gonna call them
25:57
Speaker 1: the fish from now. I want to hope it on mind.
25:58
Speaker 1: I like that the fish quadraphenia. I think that's an
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Speaker 1: incredible achievement, and I'd actually be interested in seeing what
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Speaker 1: that looks like. So perhaps I'll watch it, appreciate it,
26:09
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe that'll end end up in the episode
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Speaker 1: the episode Fish. Excuse me, on the Fish that we
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Speaker 1: are going to produce. It's way more criminal than I
26:21
Speaker 1: could have hoped for. I'm pretty stoked about it. And
26:24
Speaker 1: I say all this because we just and I read
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Speaker 1: this email in particular because just yesterday I recorded a
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Speaker 1: new episode on The Who on the Riverfront called Seam
26:34
Speaker 1: Tragedy from the early eighties, where eleven people died at
26:37
Speaker 1: a WHO concert, And it's a pretty harrowing story and
26:41
Speaker 1: I can't wait for you guys to hear it. And
26:43
Speaker 1: it's coming up in a couple of weeks, so you
26:45
Speaker 1: have that to look forward to. In addition, to the Fish,
26:49
Speaker 1: the Fish, the Fish episode, they say that, right. Okay, reviews,
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Speaker 1: title Jake Never Misses. I've been listening since twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: and I enjoy every episode, even once which I do
27:33
Speaker 1: not care for the artists. Just finish the David Crosby episode.
27:37
Speaker 1: I never cared for his music until after he passed away.
27:39
Speaker 1: I took a deep dive into his catalog and I
27:41
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. And man, truly was an outlaw musician
27:43
Speaker 1: who made great music. My only complaint about the show
27:46
Speaker 1: is that I usually listened during my long work commute,
27:49
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Speaker 1: tires and the episodes are real, just kidding. Keep up
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Speaker 1: the good work now, thank you so much. See Jove,
27:57
Speaker 1: y'all might be going to yourself and yourself right out.
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Speaker 1: Yet what David Crosby episode? What are we talking about?
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Speaker 1: There's no David Crosby episode of Disgracing. You're looking at
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Speaker 1: Jove is talking about that extra episode on David Crosby
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Speaker 1: from Crosby, Stills, Nash and whoever the fuck as a
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Speaker 1: wise man once called them. And the reason that we
28:36
Speaker 1: covered David Crosby is because his story is insane. It's nuts.
28:44
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Speaker 1: to talk about some episodes that we mentioned here, some subjects,
29:47
Speaker 1: some artists that we mentioned here that we have episodes
29:49
Speaker 1: in the vault in the archive. That's Taylor Swift. We
29:52
Speaker 1: brought up Taylor Swift and we have a two part
29:54
Speaker 1: episode on Britney Spears. We talked about a little bit here.
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Speaker 1: We did not we don't have an episode on this Supremes.
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Speaker 1: We do have a Motown episode, and of course you
30:03
Speaker 1: can't talk about Motown without talking about the Supremes. TLC
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Speaker 1: came up TLC. We've got a TLC episode in the archive.
30:09
Speaker 1: And Shania Twain. Did I talk about Shania Twain? I
30:13
Speaker 1: don't know that I talked about Shania Twain, but we
30:15
Speaker 1: do have an ECDC episode. Now, how is Shania Twain
30:18
Speaker 1: related to ACDC. Well, Mutt Lang was married to Shania Twain,
30:21
Speaker 1: and Mutt Lang produced those massive Shania Twain records. He
30:26
Speaker 1: also produced Back in Black, amongst other massive death lepperd
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Speaker 1: just huge. So anyway, is ACDC episode. Check that out,
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Speaker 1: def Leppard. We'll get to at some point, but not
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Speaker 1: before we get out of here. Unfortunately, got a recap
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Speaker 1: our recent episode on Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Number two
30:53
Speaker 1: right now, your Disgrace Sland feed has a brand new
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Speaker 1: Go Gos episode. You know all about that because we
30:58
Speaker 1: spent the first half of this episode talking about it.
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Speaker 1: Number three coming tomorrow, our rewind episode on Madonna, and
31:03
Speaker 1: next Tuesday, our brand new episode on Marilyn Manson. Number
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Speaker 1: four merch Winners get in touch you know who you are,
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Speaker 1: Number five. Remember though, that no one cares about preserving
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Speaker 1: the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do.
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Speaker 1: And well that's a disgrace, all right, and honor this
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Speaker 1: week's subject, The Go Gos. This is me reading you
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Speaker 1: the Billboard charts of number one songs from the day
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Speaker 1: that The Go Go's debut album went to number one
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Speaker 1: on March sixth, nineteen eighty two. Number one Centerfold, The
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Speaker 1: Jay Giles Band last week one, peak position one weeks
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Speaker 1: on Chart eighteen, number two, Open Arms Journeys last week two,
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Speaker 1: week I Love rock and Rolls. Joan Jet in the
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Speaker 1: Blackhearts last week nine, peak position sweet three games weeks
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