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Episode 23 Season 2 Beach Day + Dom and Zach's Top NFL Players For the Upcoming Season · ZBD Sports Podcast

0:46
SPEAKER_03: CBD back for episode twenty-three season two, technically four, but uh yeah, twenty-three overall.
0:56
SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, and this week, um gonna be diving deep into some NFL.
1:02
SPEAKER_03: Uh strictly NFL today.
1:05
SPEAKER_03: Um just gonna be debating uh top five position rankings.
1:11
SPEAKER_09: Congratulations to Spain.
1:13
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, Spain, you know what I'm saying?
1:17
SPEAKER_09: I watched that whole fucking game.
1:19
SPEAKER_09: I watched the last multiple games like credit.
1:23
SPEAKER_09: Yes, you know what I'm saying?
1:24
SPEAKER_09: Even though I say what I said at the bar about soccer, I watched more soccer in my life this year than I ever did.
1:35
SPEAKER_09: He said, you know, I ain't gonna lie.
1:36
SPEAKER_09: I'm gonna lie.
1:37
SPEAKER_09: He was like, I ain't gonna lie, bro.
1:39
SPEAKER_09: I kind of was like feeling it.
1:40
SPEAKER_09: Me personally, I was like, I'm kinda glad.
1:43
SPEAKER_09: No lie, but I'm like, because I'm ready for football.
1:45
SPEAKER_09: That's it.
1:47
SPEAKER_09: Nothing towards soccer or anything, because you know what I'm saying.
1:52
SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, fuck baseball starting right back up.
1:56
SPEAKER_05: That's the thing about soccer, bro.
1:58
SPEAKER_03: Because I was saying, bro, my my Saturdays and Sundays, bro.
2:01
SPEAKER_03: Uh Saturday morning.
2:03
SPEAKER_03: Saturday morning and Sunday morning is just soccer.
2:05
SPEAKER_03: And then college football and NFL.
2:08
SPEAKER_03: So my weekends are booked.
2:10
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
2:12
SPEAKER_09: It was definitely entertaining.
2:14
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
2:14
SPEAKER_09: It was like I had my team I was pulling for Norway.
2:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:18
SPEAKER_03: Norway made a good run.
2:20
SPEAKER_03: Oh boy.
2:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:21
SPEAKER_03: Holland didn't do it.
2:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:23
SPEAKER_03: You know, but I mean, he yeah he he he made himself one of the I mean he made himself one of the better players in the world just in this World Cup.
2:30
SPEAKER_03: He was playing good.
2:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:32
SPEAKER_03: I mean, he it was his first World Cup and he had the third most goals in the tournament.
2:36
SPEAKER_03: So and he's still super young, so he's gonna be playing in a few more for sure.
2:41
SPEAKER_03: Right.
2:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah at least like two or three more.
2:44
SPEAKER_03: But no, Spain, I mean, Spain was just so good all around.
2:47
SPEAKER_03: Like it just didn't really look like anybody was gonna beat them all tournament.
2:51
SPEAKER_03: Um, nobody, I don't think anybody in a World Cup has ever only let up one goal in a tournament.
2:57
SPEAKER_03: That's funny.
2:57
SPEAKER_03: And that's and that's what Spain did.
2:59
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I mean their defense just and their defense in their midfield was just lights out all tournament.
3:06
SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah.
3:07
SPEAKER_03: But um, yeah, I mean that World Cup, it's it's it's tough that that's only every four years um because kind of can't, I mean, we're only looking forward to it every so often, but um we got football every year though.
3:23
SPEAKER_03: So um don't gotta take a ton of time off of that.
3:27
SPEAKER_03: And um uh going into going into 2020 2026, 2027, uh new year.
3:36
SPEAKER_03: Um we got we got quarterbacks, running backs, and wide receivers.
3:43
SPEAKER_03: Um me and Dom's top fives, and then um a few honorable mentions who who we think are kind of on the bubble of being um on the brink of that top five.
3:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:55
SPEAKER_09: It's gonna cause controversy, and this is definitely uh what I want, what I like.
4:02
SPEAKER_09: Um Especially coming off a good beach day with the boys, way to close out the fucking night, terrific night at the beach, good day at work, you know what I'm saying?
4:15
SPEAKER_09: Like it was we stayed high, niggas stayed lit, we you know, vibes were rolling, firing, and then the leaders right in the fucking football.
4:25
SPEAKER_09: And also, just a little heads up, mind you, technically, guys, first football game is next week.
4:35
SPEAKER_09: It's a Hall of Fame game, which preseason.
4:38
SPEAKER_03: So a lot of people I think preseason is like the fourth or like the fifth, so it might be like I don't know what's next Thursday, I'm pretty sure.
4:47
SPEAKER_09: Like the sixth or seventh.
4:49
unknown: Okay.
4:50
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
4:50
SPEAKER_09: Because the first will be a Saturday, so yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Thursday.
4:54
SPEAKER_08: It's a Hall of Fame game.
4:56
SPEAKER_08: Um you don't know when preseason starts?
4:59
SPEAKER_08: That's a that's a starter.
5:00
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
5:01
SPEAKER_08: It's Panthers and Cardinals.
5:03
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
5:03
SPEAKER_08: This is a kick off for uh preseason.
5:06
SPEAKER_03: I'll I'll watch some preseason, bro.
5:08
SPEAKER_03: No, preseason.
5:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Lions, Bengals is 813.
5:11
SPEAKER_03: So we got a lot of things.
5:12
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's only two weeks.
5:15
SPEAKER_03: Two weeks from now, yeah.
5:16
SPEAKER_03: It's not bad at all.
5:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so we're preseason football a week of a week away from football.
5:22
SPEAKER_03: Um, so with that being said, college probably starting in a month or so, so one of these next few episodes we might dabble into college a little bit.
5:31
SPEAKER_09: We'll get into our uh we'll we'll dive into pre-season, preseason AP goals and kind of yeah.
5:40
SPEAKER_09: For sure, for sure.
5:41
SPEAKER_09: Dive it's kind of hard with with college because like NFL, like there's players.
5:47
SPEAKER_03: There's a lot more people coming out of high school, maybe some like freshmen or software.
5:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like 40 feet.
5:53
SPEAKER_09: I remember fucking when uh Bill Belichick came to North Carolina the first year.
5:59
SPEAKER_09: I think it was like 60 or 70 players that transfer game.
6:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think it was damn near the whole team.
6:04
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but you know what I'm saying?
6:06
SPEAKER_09: So, but well, with that being said, um uh we could dive into our top fives.
6:11
SPEAKER_09: You want to start QB running back or wide receiver?
6:15
SPEAKER_03: Let's do wide receiver to start.
6:16
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
6:17
SPEAKER_03: Um let's start off with the uh honorable mentions.
6:22
SPEAKER_03: Um I'll name I I can name mine first.
6:27
SPEAKER_03: So I got um my honorable mentions, I got AJ Brown, CD Lamb, and um Devontae Adams.
6:38
SPEAKER_03: Those are my three that were kind of outside outside this bubble, kind of looking in.
6:44
SPEAKER_03: Um just I mean, and like and so like I'll say off these picks, like these are all solely kind of based like just what I think they can just what I think they can kind of bring into next year.
6:56
SPEAKER_03: Like it's not even like yeah, it's what they've done, like it's what they've done, like playoff hist, like just kind of what you were saying before.
7:04
SPEAKER_03: Um playoff games, close games, like maybe not having as good defenses, just not as good teams overall.
7:11
SPEAKER_03: Um but also like like man, just like kind of like kind of like just where um it's kind of where I see them going, kind of where I see them going next year, right?
7:24
SPEAKER_03: So like I mean, AJ Brown, I see having like I mean he's gonna he's gonna have a good year, I think, in in Phil in um no in New England.
7:33
SPEAKER_03: Um, I mean, who's their I mean like he'll he'll definitely be their number one, right?
7:37
SPEAKER_03: So you got yeah.
7:39
SPEAKER_09: Well my question is, so I mean, this means is that an order?
7:43
SPEAKER_09: AJ Brown, Adams, CD.
7:46
SPEAKER_09: No, it's not particularly in order.
7:48
SPEAKER_09: I just kind of put those down.
7:50
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
7:56
SPEAKER_09: No, that's why I mean all five.
7:59
SPEAKER_03: No, no, he's no, he he would be no no.
8:01
SPEAKER_03: I have no, I have AJ, CD, and Vontae.
8:03
SPEAKER_03: Oh, so so he would be a good one.
8:05
SPEAKER_03: So he keeps he would he would be my seven.
8:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
8:07
SPEAKER_09: I mean interesting.
8:12
SPEAKER_09: If he got I got them about the same, so that's so who are your honorable mentions?
8:20
SPEAKER_09: My honorable mentions, I like to I'm gonna I'm gonna dive into my top first.
8:27
SPEAKER_03: No, bro.
8:27
SPEAKER_03: No, bro.
8:28
SPEAKER_03: I feel like we gotta go, I feel like we gotta go bottom up because we don't want to reveal that number one pick until the last.
8:34
SPEAKER_09: Well, my honorable mentions.
8:39
SPEAKER_09: Um, I'll start off number one, George Pickens.
8:43
unknown: Okay.
8:44
SPEAKER_09: Um, I think George Pickens.
8:46
SPEAKER_09: Well, first you should tell me career year.
8:48
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
8:49
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so yeah, he had a career year.
8:51
SPEAKER_03: Um he was he was on the outside.
8:54
SPEAKER_03: He was, yeah.
8:55
SPEAKER_03: He was looking at I was looking at him a lot too.
8:57
SPEAKER_09: Played overall better than CeeDee Lamb did and kind of turned more into their uh number one towards the end of the year, and he honestly showed me what I thought he was capable of.
9:13
SPEAKER_09: Um I thought Pittsburgh was made a terrible mistake by training him.
9:20
SPEAKER_09: Yes, he could be a bit child, a bit childish, but and have some off-the-field issues, but that's shit that I feel like you can like fix, right?
9:30
SPEAKER_09: That's like the lighter part, right?
9:32
SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
9:32
SPEAKER_09: I feel like the main issues, unless this motherfucker is like causing major issues off the field and just doing dumbass shit in and out of jail or whatever.
9:42
SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
9:43
SPEAKER_09: But he wasn't.
9:43
SPEAKER_09: It's kind of stuff that he's doing.
9:45
SPEAKER_03: He was doing shit on the field, right?
9:47
SPEAKER_03: So that's kind of immature stuff.
9:48
SPEAKER_03: So that's how you fix.
9:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's kind of stuff like I feel like you can put maybe the right teammates around, or maybe it's the right situation.
9:55
SPEAKER_09: If it's off the field, you need counsel, right?
9:58
SPEAKER_09: You need guidance, you need counseling.
10:00
SPEAKER_09: That's something that some people most people aren't equipped with, and that's outside of what the fuck, you know, I'm I'm asking you to do, or ask, or I need of you to do on a daily basis.
10:13
SPEAKER_09: You go to Dallas, which, you know, ain't the best fucking Rand place.
10:19
SPEAKER_09: Um they have, yes, they were America's team in the fucking 90s when they won three, four so Super Bowls, but they ain't did shit since.
10:29
SPEAKER_09: They ain't been to a fucking Super Bowl since.
10:32
SPEAKER_09: Let's start off with that.
10:34
SPEAKER_09: Ain't been to a Super Bowl, ain't they sniffed a fucking Super Bowl a couple times.
10:40
SPEAKER_09: Um I can't tell you the last time they've been in the NFC Championship game.
10:44
SPEAKER_09: Maybe the the the Dez Bryant Um fucking no catcher they called off.
10:51
SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
10:51
SPEAKER_09: I can't remember.
10:52
SPEAKER_09: I'm about to check my fucking stats and shit, but you know, they haven't they haven't been consistent.
10:59
SPEAKER_09: Um sorry, I should probably mute that.
11:02
SPEAKER_09: Um who else you got on the honorable mentions?
11:10
SPEAKER_09: Funny.
11:10
SPEAKER_09: Uh is there a lighter?
11:12
SPEAKER_09: Honorable mention, underneath that, I got CD Lamb.
11:16
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
11:17
SPEAKER_09: You got two DAWs in the city.
11:18
SPEAKER_09: Oh shit, underneath the phone.
11:21
SPEAKER_02: You guys just let it you let it.
11:25
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
11:26
SPEAKER_09: So CD finding smoke.
11:29
SPEAKER_09: Um yeah, C D s so yeah, C D lamb.
11:32
SPEAKER_09: I because he's been a little inju injury played last couple years.
11:39
SPEAKER_09: Dallas hasn't been um producing haven't been maybe in playoffs in two or three years.
11:46
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
11:46
SPEAKER_09: Um but he's consistent and when he plays he's good.
11:52
SPEAKER_09: Very good.
11:53
SPEAKER_09: Um he just hasn't had a success team-wise.
11:58
SPEAKER_09: Um got the other guys, except for two of them, I would say.
12:05
SPEAKER_09: Um, but the other two have played and have been there.
12:10
SPEAKER_09: Um but he didn't like I said, he and he's also getting a little bit older.
12:17
SPEAKER_09: He's been in the league, what, a year since what, 2019, 2018, maybe 20.
12:22
SPEAKER_09: So I mean he's he's approaching his seventh, eighth year in the league, maybe ninth.
12:27
SPEAKER_09: Right?
12:27
SPEAKER_09: So he's getting a little bit older.
12:30
unknown: Um, and then with with George and Pickens on the other side, that helps him as well.
12:35
unknown: You know what I mean?
12:36
SPEAKER_09: Because that levies a lot of pressure.
12:38
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
12:39
SPEAKER_03: Um especially, especially if Pickens is playing as good as he is, then yeah, they're gonna it's gonna more it's gonna draw more attention to the other side.
12:48
SPEAKER_03: And you can't, yeah, CD's CDs are gonna be good drawing single coverages, he's still gonna be able to uh do his thing for sure.
12:57
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I mean I think Pickens got the same motherfucking calendar he's uh he does, bro.
13:02
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I honestly maybe could have put I maybe could have put Pickens over Devontae Adams over this just because Devontae's getting a bit older and Nakua, Nakua's just like he's definitely just gonna progress into that one.
13:17
SPEAKER_03: And he already is a number one in LA.
13:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, he is.
13:22
SPEAKER_03: But I mean I mean in the I mean dude in the fucking in the in the in the red zone last year, though, fucking Devontae was their Devontae was their red zone go-to.
13:32
SPEAKER_09: That's true.
13:32
SPEAKER_09: Devontae got hurt though in a good portion of that season.
13:35
SPEAKER_09: Puka was there.
13:37
SPEAKER_09: But Puka's overall that's Devontae saw the most touchdowns in the league, though.
13:42
SPEAKER_03: Really?
13:43
SPEAKER_03: As a wide receiver?
13:45
SPEAKER_03: I I think or yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure as a wide receiver.
13:48
SPEAKER_03: Either one or two, bro.
13:50
SPEAKER_03: And he got yeah, I'm pretty he was either one he had the 13 or 14, bro.
13:54
SPEAKER_03: Three 13 or 14.
13:56
SPEAKER_03: There's no way.
13:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, last year, bro.
13:59
SPEAKER_03: Just because of his all of his bro, yeah, all of his redstone touchdowns.
14:03
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, that's kind of the reason I put him up there, bro, is because he's fucking he's produced everywhere.
14:08
SPEAKER_03: Like, I mean, he was he was injured a lot in Vegas when he was over there.
14:13
SPEAKER_03: Vegas, I feel like, was just never really a great fit.
14:16
SPEAKER_03: He only went over there for um fucking what was it?
14:21
SPEAKER_03: Um who was who was the quarterback that he played with?
14:24
SPEAKER_03: Derrick Carr.
14:28
SPEAKER_03: When Derek Carr went over to Vegas was when he went over there, right?
14:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
14:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
14:35
SPEAKER_03: And then and then Derrick Carr only lasted a year.
14:38
SPEAKER_03: Like maybe, yeah.
14:40
SPEAKER_03: So like after that, it just wasn't really ever a great fit.
14:43
SPEAKER_03: And him going to LA.
14:44
SPEAKER_03: Um, he he hasn't won, he didn't win anything with them.
14:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he went over there after, but he went to the Jets.
14:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I forgot.
14:52
SPEAKER_03: I forgot he went on.
14:53
SPEAKER_03: I forgot he went to the Jets.
14:55
SPEAKER_09: I mean, even the Jets, I mean it's not Yeah.
14:58
SPEAKER_09: I mean, that was like a last ditching effort on the start of state of the season for the Jets.
15:03
SPEAKER_09: You know, that was more Aaron Rodgers demanding Devontae Adams.
15:08
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
15:08
SPEAKER_09: Which he probably demanded him before that, but the Raiders weren't trying to part with him, I would assume.
15:14
SPEAKER_09: And then it came to a point where you know the Raiders were done, Car was or Carr was gone, and they're like, well, let's at least try to get some type of compensation for this guy.
15:27
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
15:27
SPEAKER_09: Because we know he's not re-signed.
15:29
SPEAKER_03: Well, so who's your um who's your last one?
15:33
SPEAKER_09: Oh, well, Shinoni did.
15:34
SPEAKER_09: Oh, did you just do two?
15:36
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, only did two.
15:37
SPEAKER_09: Well, who's your uh who's your number five?
15:39
SPEAKER_09: Number five, um, in my band, is uh your boy.
15:47
SPEAKER_09: Sam Brown?
15:48
SPEAKER_09: Yes, sir.
15:49
SPEAKER_09: That's what I have as well.
15:50
SPEAKER_09: That's good, nice.
15:51
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
15:54
SPEAKER_09: He's uh a top five receiver of mine.
15:57
SPEAKER_09: Um longevity, he's been good for a while.
16:00
SPEAKER_09: He's consistent, um, doesn't complain, doesn't have any issues off the field, has great hands, a good route runner.
16:09
SPEAKER_09: Um clear cut number one.
16:12
SPEAKER_03: Hasn't really had a ton of injuries.
16:14
SPEAKER_03: He's had like he's had a few knocks.
16:16
SPEAKER_03: He's had a few knocks here and there that have kept him out for a little bit of time, but he's never had anything that's kept him out for a super long.
16:21
SPEAKER_03: He's tough.
16:22
SPEAKER_03: He's gonna play through a lot of stuff.
16:24
SPEAKER_03: Just like just like most football players for real.
16:26
SPEAKER_03: But I mean he's he's he's I mean he's another one of those guys that you can see it on the field.
16:31
SPEAKER_03: He's gonna play through a lot.
16:33
SPEAKER_03: And um, he's one of those guys.
16:34
SPEAKER_03: He's he's I mean he's golf's but he's golf's go-to.
16:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure.
16:38
SPEAKER_09: I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean, be hammer um maybe Laporta, depending on the situation, depending on, you know, but definitely St.
16:47
SPEAKER_09: Brown.
16:48
SPEAKER_09: We'll see.
16:48
SPEAKER_03: We'll see, we'll see the uh Jamison Williams size too.
16:51
SPEAKER_03: I think he's gonna step up a little bit.
16:54
SPEAKER_03: I think Jamison Williams, um I mean he's probably gonna be on the other side of St.
16:59
SPEAKER_03: Brown with good like a decent amount.
17:07
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, he is.
17:10
SPEAKER_03: I mean he's uh number two, so he's definitely gonna be he's gonna be big for Detroit.
17:18
SPEAKER_03: You see, you see St.
17:19
SPEAKER_03: Brown and J-Mo on the podcast all the time together too.
17:22
SPEAKER_03: Saint Brown always has J-Mo on the podcast building up that chemistry.
17:28
SPEAKER_03: Love to see it, but are they paid James or is it?
17:32
SPEAKER_03: Um I'm not uh I feel like we paid him like within the last like a few years.
17:40
SPEAKER_03: Only for like yeah.
17:42
SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure what to make, but um yeah.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: I mean he's gonna be able to do it.
17:51
SPEAKER_02: He's got hands.
17:52
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, he's fast.
17:53
SPEAKER_09: He can't fucking involve it.
17:56
SPEAKER_09: You gotta find a way.
18:02
SPEAKER_03: He's a good receiver.
18:06
SPEAKER_03: Whether it's we put him in the slot and fucking get him out of the backfield a little bit, whatever it is.
18:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure.
18:14
SPEAKER_03: But um I have uh I have JSN out of my four.
18:24
SPEAKER_03: Smith and Jigma.
18:28
SPEAKER_03: I mean, uh I might have him a little bit higher.
18:32
SPEAKER_03: I mean, he just went to Super Bowl, had a fucking amazing He had a fucking amazing year.
18:38
SPEAKER_03: I will like not get not giving that away from at all.
18:42
SPEAKER_03: Um I mean I like knew knew of him a little bit, but like like this was definitely his fucking like he got the fuck off this year.
18:51
SPEAKER_03: Like he definitely got the fuck off this year.
18:52
SPEAKER_03: Like, no, he like definitely played pretty good for sure.
18:55
SPEAKER_03: I mean, well yeah, but last year I definitely didn't know as much about him until this year, bro.
19:00
SPEAKER_03: He was just going off every single every single week.
19:04
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
19:04
SPEAKER_09: There's a difference.
19:05
SPEAKER_09: I mean, last year Seattle wasn't winning, right?
19:08
SPEAKER_09: So I mean, you're not a lot of the players, a lot of times you don't hear about the guy unless they're having a phenomenal just standout crazy ass year like he was this year.
19:18
SPEAKER_09: Right here.
19:19
SPEAKER_09: Um but to be honest with you, none of this surprised me at all.
19:27
SPEAKER_09: Being honest with you, bro.
19:28
SPEAKER_09: You know, I mean this man had fucking I think I I told you, I mean, the game against Utah.
19:35
SPEAKER_09: You know, sure it was a ball game, it was the end of the season and certain starters and played or whatever, but this motherfucker still had, you know, 15, 16 catches, over 300 fucking receiving yards, and like four touchdowns.
19:52
SPEAKER_09: I'm like, this dude's and that was really I mean, he was injured a good portion of that season.
19:59
SPEAKER_09: You know, because he he played with CJ Shroud, he played with fucking um, I believe Olave, yeah, he played with Olave, he played with uh Garrett Wilson, all of them, all them cats.
20:10
SPEAKER_09: I'm I'm pretty sure Marvin Harrison Jr.
20:12
SPEAKER_09: is on our team as well.
20:14
SPEAKER_09: Um, so he didn't really get the the shine that the others did, right?
20:18
SPEAKER_09: Because I mean that's all you heard.
20:20
SPEAKER_09: Olave had a fantastic fucking career in Ohio State.
20:24
SPEAKER_09: Marvin Harrison Jr.
20:26
SPEAKER_09: did.
20:26
SPEAKER_09: You know, these other players had great years coming in.
20:31
SPEAKER_09: And JSN only played um two years in Ohio State.
20:37
SPEAKER_09: The first year I think he was red shirted, so he didn't play that much in the second year.
20:40
SPEAKER_09: He got hurt, had an ankle ankle injury.
20:43
SPEAKER_09: So he didn't play much at all in Ohio State.
20:46
SPEAKER_09: Um, and then got the fuck off in that Utah game.
20:49
SPEAKER_09: But I knew he was a dog.
20:51
SPEAKER_09: I mean, I he's a rookie year.
20:53
SPEAKER_09: He played good.
20:54
SPEAKER_09: You know, behind fucking uh um DK Metcalf and fucking I can't remember who the starter was, but you know that I'm um he's you know, he's a buckeye.
21:12
SPEAKER_09: At the end of the day, bro, that's what we do is reproduce fucking talent.
21:16
SPEAKER_09: That's fair.
21:16
SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
21:17
SPEAKER_09: It don't matter what it is receiver, running back, linebacker, whatever the fuck you want to, you know, reproduce talent.
21:25
SPEAKER_09: You know, we got top receivers all across the fucking board, um, top players.
21:32
SPEAKER_09: You know, he's consistent.
21:33
SPEAKER_09: You can count that motherfucker for nine catches and 108 yards every fucking game.
21:40
SPEAKER_09: Every game.
21:42
SPEAKER_09: Because every time I look it up on the fucking scoreboard, that's about what I see.
21:46
SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
21:46
SPEAKER_09: Every game he was over fucking 100, bro.
21:49
SPEAKER_09: He was, you know what I'm saying, had eight, nine plus catches, and he was somewhat, some or not somewhat, but some way always fucking open.
22:00
SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
22:00
SPEAKER_09: When he's catching him.
22:02
SPEAKER_09: And I'm just like, bro, how I mean, I don't I don't like he's either that good of a route runner.
22:07
SPEAKER_09: Sam Darnold was fine.
22:08
SPEAKER_09: He played good.
22:09
SPEAKER_09: Sam Darnold honestly was the reason in my mind why they won the Super Bowl.
22:15
SPEAKER_09: Him and the defense.
22:17
SPEAKER_09: The fact that he didn't turn the ball over and played as good as he did against the Rams.
22:24
SPEAKER_09: You know, playing career best against the Rams.
22:26
SPEAKER_09: The time he needed him the most in the NFC fucking championship game, he came out and played lights out.
22:33
SPEAKER_09: He showed up.
22:34
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
22:34
SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
22:35
SPEAKER_09: Like, I remember us talking about this motherfucker, Sam Darnold.
22:39
SPEAKER_09: I'm like, this shit crazy.
22:41
SPEAKER_09: And JSN didn't play that good in the first fucking half.
22:45
SPEAKER_09: He did not.
22:46
SPEAKER_09: He did not play that good.
22:47
SPEAKER_09: I think Shaheed had that first touchdown for Seattle, but um, yeah, man.
22:54
SPEAKER_09: I mean, like, you know, JSN, I I I like that.
22:58
SPEAKER_09: I mean, that's like I said, I got him on my list for sure.
23:01
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
23:01
SPEAKER_09: Who do you who do you got at your fourth?
23:03
SPEAKER_09: My fourth is gonna be JSN for me.
23:06
SPEAKER_09: It's Puka.
23:07
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
23:08
SPEAKER_09: Um Puka is a fucking animal, a dog.
23:16
SPEAKER_09: Right off rip, just like fucking JSN.
23:18
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
23:19
SPEAKER_09: He's been consistent.
23:20
SPEAKER_09: Um, the question is with him, is number one, he's missed time in the last two seasons.
23:29
SPEAKER_09: Uh quite a few games in both seasons.
23:33
SPEAKER_09: That's number one.
23:34
SPEAKER_09: That's an issue.
23:35
SPEAKER_09: Um, number two, he had that whole fucking choking whoever, whatever bitch he choked.
23:42
SPEAKER_09: I don't fucking know.
23:43
SPEAKER_09: He got some court shit.
23:45
SPEAKER_09: So who's whenever that shit gets down to the NFL after whatever the ruling with a judge, chances is he probably will be suspended.
23:53
SPEAKER_09: Even if he gets found not guilty, whatever.
23:56
SPEAKER_09: That's just how the NFL works.
23:58
SPEAKER_09: I've seen it happen.
23:59
SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
24:00
SPEAKER_09: If he is found guilty, whatever happens with that, he's gonna be suspended.
24:04
SPEAKER_09: Hopefully for the Rams case, it's earlier rather than later.
24:07
SPEAKER_09: Right?
24:08
SPEAKER_09: Because you'd rather him miss the first six games than the last six games.
24:12
SPEAKER_09: So that's big with me with that.
24:16
SPEAKER_09: But other than that, I have no arguments with Puka.
24:21
SPEAKER_09: That's why he's my fourth, you know, best wide receiver.
24:24
SPEAKER_09: The motherfucker is just, you know, it's it's crazy.
24:28
SPEAKER_09: So he don't drop shit.
24:30
SPEAKER_09: He's fucking just, you know what I'm saying, finds a way to get open almost damn near every time, just like Jay is saying, like he just, you know, I mean, and he came out of fucking what, BYU, I believe, or or something like that.
24:44
SPEAKER_09: Puka was not, I mean, I didn't know who the fuck he was.
24:47
SPEAKER_09: I didn't know who Puka Nakul was um coming into you know, not last year, but a year before that.
24:54
SPEAKER_09: I didn't know who he was.
24:56
SPEAKER_09: You know, but I realized, or I seen, you know, the first couple, two, three games, he had, you know, over a hundred both games.
25:03
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
25:04
SPEAKER_09: So I'm like, okay, either he a dog or he's just one of those guys that, you know, get off on a hot starting December down, and no, he continued it.
25:12
SPEAKER_09: And he had a relatively healthy year his rookie year and then last year, he missed some time and then, or not last year, but the year before that, or the year after his rookie year, he missed time and then last year.
25:24
SPEAKER_09: He missed some time.
25:26
SPEAKER_09: Um so that's why I got him at number four, in my opinion.
25:30
SPEAKER_09: Um who do you guys are?
25:32
SPEAKER_03: Um JSM was my four.
25:37
SPEAKER_03: So my three.
25:39
SPEAKER_03: Um Jefferson, but uh I have Nakua my two, so like maybe those two, like, see those two.
25:50
SPEAKER_03: Like those two are kind of I could like kind of iffy.
25:53
SPEAKER_03: Because I mean Jefferson, like it's tough because I mean Jefferson is a long like up there with like Jefferson and Chase are the two best route run, like, bro.
26:04
SPEAKER_03: Best receivers.
26:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, bro, the best two fuck route running.
26:08
SPEAKER_03: No, like I'm like I'm just saying, like, overall, bro.
26:10
SPEAKER_03: Like, they're fucked, yeah.
26:12
SPEAKER_09: And the the difference is is fucking sorry to me up, but the difference is Jenna ain't had a lot of people.
26:19
SPEAKER_05: No, that's that's that's that's what I yeah, that's what I'm saying.
26:22
SPEAKER_04: So like we have to do that.
26:23
SPEAKER_03: So we have so yeah, I mean, I I want I want to see I want to see what Jefferson can do with the no with another with another quarterback who can give him a little bit of consistency like Kirk Cousins.
26:34
SPEAKER_03: Like, because I can't believe in Tyler Murray at all, bro.
26:36
SPEAKER_09: No, so no, so that's what I'm saying.
26:38
SPEAKER_09: Like we can hope, but um Minnesota probably regret letting his ass go.
26:43
SPEAKER_09: I promise you that.
26:45
SPEAKER_09: Minnesota.
26:46
SPEAKER_03: Seeing him float around now.
26:48
SPEAKER_03: I mean, yeah, but I mean he got He could have been in Minnesota for at least another one, two years.
26:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:55
SPEAKER_03: Instead of going to Atlanta and fucking wasting away and then now in Vegas.
27:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
27:01
SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah.
27:03
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, bro, I think I just saw that Vegas announced that he was actually he was gonna be the number.
27:08
SPEAKER_03: Number one over Mendoza, yeah.
27:10
SPEAKER_03: At least for a little while.
27:12
SPEAKER_09: I mean, I think that could change.
27:13
SPEAKER_09: I mean it's probably yeah.
27:14
SPEAKER_09: Right now, they say right now, like they said you know, going they say first teams come out tomorrow, whatever.
27:20
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
27:21
SPEAKER_09: Uh Kirk Cousins will be the starter.
27:26
SPEAKER_09: And I mean, I think they're taking their time.
27:33
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I mean, it's a fresh start.
27:35
SPEAKER_03: You got a young quarterback, young running back, and Genty too.
27:39
SPEAKER_03: Um I mean, look, you got a pretty young team overall.
27:43
SPEAKER_09: I mean, I don't even know who the fuck the receivers is at all.
27:46
SPEAKER_09: Um I don't know what we're on their team.
27:50
SPEAKER_09: Um they got Bowers, they have still Crosby, they got that trade in work out.
27:59
SPEAKER_09: Um Trey Tucker's not really.
28:02
SPEAKER_09: Like he's not Trey Tucker.
28:04
SPEAKER_02: I don't even is he on actually on the team anymore?
28:07
SPEAKER_02: I don't even know if he's on there anymore.
28:08
SPEAKER_03: He might um but no, so I mean it Nakua and Jefferson, like I so I mean I guess the only reason I kind of had Nakua over him was because I think that he probably will have a better season, just because Jeff I mean I mean granted Jefferson could could put up the numbers, but he also missed a bit of time last year as well, didn't he?
28:33
SPEAKER_03: Jefferson.
28:34
SPEAKER_03: I feel like he I feel like he's I feel like he was out for like five.
28:38
SPEAKER_03: I feel like he was out for like at least four three, four, maybe five in a row.
28:42
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
28:43
SPEAKER_03: Maybe I'm tripping, but um, I know he missed at least a little bit of time, but I feel like at least as as long as Nakua just stays healthy.
28:52
SPEAKER_03: Um I feel like I feel like the Rams are definitely gonna have a good good year.
28:57
SPEAKER_03: And Minnesota is probably stat like like I mean I hope so.
29:03
SPEAKER_03: I mean I think the Packers, Bears, and Lions are all better than the Vikings.
29:07
SPEAKER_03: So I think the Vikings are probably gonna come last in their division, and Rams could potentially win the NFC.
29:15
SPEAKER_03: So it's like that's like so like so so so that so that's kind of the re o like like that's kind of the reason the reason I had Nakua above Jefferson, but skill-wise, just overall receiver Jefferson is is the two, but um who do you have at your three?
29:32
SPEAKER_03: Uh JSN.
29:33
SPEAKER_03: JSN, okay.
29:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I got him over Puka.
29:37
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
29:38
SPEAKER_09: Um because uh uh number one about that is injury.
29:44
SPEAKER_09: JSN I'm just playing every game here in the first three games or three three years of the season.
29:52
SPEAKER_09: Puka has not.
29:54
SPEAKER_09: Number two has a ring.
29:59
SPEAKER_09: Number three.
30:07
SPEAKER_09: He's a better round runner in my mind than Puka.
30:10
SPEAKER_09: Um I think Puka's a better D threat because of the height, but uh overall taking you know JSN but it's tough.
30:21
SPEAKER_09: You know, because I had to you know I was I was swapping back and forth in my mind.
30:26
SPEAKER_09: Uh Puka at four or four and then JSN at three, so I was swapping and really the ring is what you know pushed me over the top, and and you know, they played each other against each other.
30:38
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, they did.
30:39
SPEAKER_09: You know, it's kind of really the only reason one of the mains is why I had JSN over uh Puka.
30:45
SPEAKER_09: Uh of course, yeah.
30:48
SPEAKER_09: But I mean that's one of the few that's hard, yeah.
30:52
SPEAKER_09: Because Shay says I have a ring, and obviously that's unanimous number one for both of us.
30:58
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
30:58
SPEAKER_09: Confetti, balloons.
31:00
SPEAKER_09: Um, yeah, obviously he's number one, uh, in my opinion.
31:04
SPEAKER_09: He's been the most assistant over the last three or four years with Burrow missing two of those four or five years.
31:15
SPEAKER_09: He still put up numbers with Chase Browning and Joe Flacco and whoever else.
31:21
SPEAKER_09: Granted, Joe Flacco's not a bad person.
31:23
SPEAKER_09: No, he played, you know, I'm just but still though.
31:26
SPEAKER_09: You know, he put up Jake Browning, though, is yeah.
31:29
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, 17 or 16 or 17 catches in one game with fucking Joe Flacco.
31:35
SPEAKER_09: That's just that's crazy.
31:36
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
31:36
SPEAKER_09: Against Pittsburgh.
31:39
SPEAKER_09: Uh, but one honorable mention that I do want to throw just because I really do, I do, I do, I do, I do.
31:46
SPEAKER_09: I do believe in this guy a lot.
31:49
SPEAKER_09: Um, you may say I'm crazy, and it's you may say it's out of left field, um, but he's had some off-the-field issues that I think that's hindered uh kind of his growth success, and that is Rashi Rice.
32:08
SPEAKER_09: Um, I think Rashid Rice is very, very, very good.
32:12
SPEAKER_09: I'll watch him play.
32:13
SPEAKER_09: He's a great route runner.
32:16
SPEAKER_09: He has hands.
32:17
SPEAKER_09: He's he's another one of those guys.
32:19
SPEAKER_09: He's bigger, he's quick.
32:20
SPEAKER_03: Didn't he get in that fucking car crash and he killed like broken?
32:24
SPEAKER_03: No, no, you're thinking of Henry Ruggs.
32:26
SPEAKER_03: No, bro.
32:27
SPEAKER_03: Rashid Rice had that same ship, bro.
32:30
SPEAKER_03: He literally got in the act, he got in a car accident.
32:32
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's right, yeah.
32:33
SPEAKER_03: He got in a car accident and killed somebody, bro.
32:35
SPEAKER_03: But I don't I don't did he kill him?
32:36
SPEAKER_03: I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure he killed somebody that's at fault.
32:40
SPEAKER_03: Bro, he was driving the car.
32:42
SPEAKER_09: That doesn't mean you were at fault if you killed someone.
32:45
SPEAKER_03: I mean, bro, but he was.
32:46
SPEAKER_09: You talking about he killed someone that was in a car with him?
32:48
SPEAKER_03: He was wrecked, yeah.
32:49
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay, okay.
32:50
SPEAKER_03: Or or the person that he crashed into, or or I think it was the person.
32:55
SPEAKER_03: I yeah, I gotta look at bro, but I'm I'm a hundred percent, bro.
32:58
SPEAKER_03: He's he's like, he's he's yeah, I I mean, I I like I'm not saying that he wasn't amazing when because didn't he go to Texas?
33:07
SPEAKER_03: Or did he go somewhere?
33:08
SPEAKER_03: Like, because I can't remember.
33:09
SPEAKER_03: Like I remember him getting off at the end of college, and then yeah, when he was on the Chiefs, like I definitely remember him being really good, but I just remember that whole thing happening, and then he also tore his ACL, didn't he?
33:21
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
33:22
SPEAKER_03: I kind of I feel like the issue he tore his ACL first.
33:28
SPEAKER_03: He's on suspension right now for because he has a he's he served 30-day jail sentence and has um slaughter and probation and he has uh mass slaughter.
33:41
SPEAKER_03: Rice missed the first six games of the due to suspension under personal conduct policy.
33:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh he was his guilty plea to third degree felony charges collision involving serious bodily damage on on and racing on a highway related to uh March 2024.
33:59
SPEAKER_03: It was a multi-car crash in Dallas.
34:02
SPEAKER_03: As part as part as part of a plea deal, he received five years.
34:07
SPEAKER_03: That's nothing to do with football, though.
34:08
SPEAKER_03: I mean, still, bro.
34:10
SPEAKER_03: Like, bro.
34:11
SPEAKER_09: We're talking about the NFL is gonna like bro, like bro, already did what they did suspending him last year.
34:17
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you got suspended already.
34:19
SPEAKER_09: That is not what he's in trouble for right now.
34:21
SPEAKER_09: He's in trouble for violating his probate or some shit like that.
34:24
SPEAKER_09: I think for weed or some shit.
34:26
SPEAKER_09: That's already been established.
34:28
SPEAKER_09: And yeah, I mean, accidents happen, bro.
34:30
SPEAKER_09: It fucking happens.
34:32
SPEAKER_09: Yes, I mean, Jalen Carter did the same thing.
34:34
SPEAKER_09: He was fucking in a car, somebody got shot, and he drove off or killed and he drove off the lead, they're leaving the scene of whatever the fucking charge was.
34:44
SPEAKER_09: But Jalen Carter was there when somebody fucking died and he left.
34:48
SPEAKER_09: And he playing football right now.
34:50
SPEAKER_09: Ain't nobody talking about that.
34:52
SPEAKER_09: So, you know what I'm saying?
34:54
SPEAKER_09: Devon, or you look at uh fucking whatever the fuck Miller for Charlotte gave the gun to the motherfucker who shot and killed somebody.
35:04
SPEAKER_09: But anybody talking about that though.
35:06
SPEAKER_09: Right?
35:06
SPEAKER_09: So what so that's what I'm saying.
35:07
SPEAKER_09: What the fuck, you know what I'm saying?
35:09
SPEAKER_09: That's already been ain't got nothing to do with football, bro.
35:11
SPEAKER_09: We talking about best receivers coming in this year.
35:15
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, we'll see how much he plays.
35:17
SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
35:17
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but I'm saying, but I said, but I also said because of off the field issues.
35:24
SPEAKER_09: I said that in the beginning.
35:25
SPEAKER_09: I said because he's been suspended and him not playing, you know what I mean?
35:29
SPEAKER_09: But I said talent-wise, good route runner, he has speedy ass hands, he's a dog.
35:34
SPEAKER_09: He may be one of those receivers or players that, you know, because he can't keep his head, you know, in the right place or out of the fucking streets, his talent don't never pan out.
35:45
SPEAKER_09: If they can get him and Isaiah Worthy on other side of each other.
35:48
SPEAKER_09: Fuck is that or fuck worthy.
35:50
SPEAKER_09: If they ain't get fucking, if they ain't get his, he's okay, bro.
35:53
SPEAKER_09: He's not he's alright, bro.
35:56
SPEAKER_09: He's okay.
35:56
SPEAKER_09: I don't think he's bro, he's okay.
36:00
SPEAKER_04: This is going to his rookie year.
36:01
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
36:02
SPEAKER_03: He didn't have a bad rookie year.
36:04
SPEAKER_03: Or it might have been a second year.
36:05
SPEAKER_03: He's a second year.
36:06
SPEAKER_03: He's going his third year, bro.
36:07
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
36:08
SPEAKER_03: Dude, he's okay.
36:10
SPEAKER_03: They can get, bro.
36:12
SPEAKER_03: Well, well, so bro, let's let's go into the running backs, bro.
36:15
SPEAKER_03: Fucking, we don't got no Chiefs on our fucking.
36:17
SPEAKER_03: I don't have any Chiefs on my list except fucking the home.
36:20
SPEAKER_03: So you don't gotta talk about it.
36:23
SPEAKER_09: It don't matter.
36:24
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:24
SPEAKER_09: We're talking about rice.
36:25
SPEAKER_09: I can honorable mention, bro.
36:27
SPEAKER_09: You gave me guys your honorable mentions.
36:29
SPEAKER_09: I gave more honorable mention than rice.
36:30
SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's fair.
36:31
SPEAKER_09: So I can't, I ain't you know what I'm saying, was like, oh, well, you know what I'm saying?
36:35
SPEAKER_03: Rice fucking biceps.
36:37
SPEAKER_03: I think he's positioning.
36:38
SPEAKER_03: I just don't think he's gonna be playing a ton this year.
36:41
SPEAKER_03: But um my honorable mentions for running back.
36:45
SPEAKER_09: I mean, I don't understand why he wouldn't he play this year.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: Huh?
36:48
SPEAKER_09: Why wouldn't he play this year?
36:49
SPEAKER_09: The manslaughter shit was last year.
36:50
SPEAKER_09: He already got suspended for that.
36:52
SPEAKER_04: Just depending on what?
36:54
SPEAKER_09: He ain't been injured.
36:55
SPEAKER_09: He's just been suspended.
36:57
SPEAKER_09: He tore his ACO when Mahomes fell on him.
37:00
SPEAKER_09: He played that whole year.
37:02
SPEAKER_09: He's going in his fourth year.
37:04
SPEAKER_09: Now he played that whole year.
37:05
SPEAKER_09: Mahomes fell on him on trying to fucking go for a tackle, tore his ACO.
37:11
SPEAKER_09: I thought that was recent.
37:13
SPEAKER_09: That was not last year or the year before that.
37:15
SPEAKER_09: Oh, so here, yeah, two years ago.
37:16
SPEAKER_09: So here he missed that year.
37:18
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, so yeah.
37:19
SPEAKER_09: And he came back last year in like weeks eight or nine because he missed the first seven, six, seven weeks because of the suspension from the manslaughter and because of the injury.
37:28
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
37:29
SPEAKER_09: So I'm saying he's not, he's he should have been fine to put him at the start of the year.
37:35
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
37:35
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
37:36
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
37:37
SPEAKER_09: We'll go run back up.
37:38
SPEAKER_09: Neo.
37:41
SPEAKER_09: Honorable mentions, obviously, at first.
37:44
SPEAKER_03: Um looking back at I probably should have had him a little bit higher.
37:50
SPEAKER_03: I probably would have put him like three or four if I had a pick him, but um I had cook from Buffalo.
37:59
SPEAKER_03: That's my honorable.
38:00
SPEAKER_03: Honorable mention?
38:01
SPEAKER_03: I did I.
38:02
SPEAKER_03: This nigga's smoking.
38:04
SPEAKER_09: This shit is fucking crazy.
38:05
SPEAKER_04: You didn't hear what I just heard before.
38:07
SPEAKER_09: I know that, but the fact that you even thought that from the rip, nigga, is crazy.
38:11
SPEAKER_09: And then I heard I can't pass.
38:13
SPEAKER_09: I can't pass on that, bro.
38:15
SPEAKER_01: I was I can't just overlook that and be like, yeah, let's just move on.
38:18
SPEAKER_01: All right, bro.
38:19
SPEAKER_01: That's crazy, bro.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: What?
38:24
SPEAKER_01: This nigga.
38:26
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
38:26
SPEAKER_00: All right.
38:27
SPEAKER_06: Go ahead, bro.
38:28
SPEAKER_01: And then I got Taylor.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: Oh, Colts.
38:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
38:35
SPEAKER_03: Bro, oh my god, bro.
38:39
SPEAKER_03: I could have had HN ahead of him because HN was on.
38:42
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
38:43
SPEAKER_06: Bro, this nigga, man.
38:48
SPEAKER_09: Man, Zach.
38:49
SPEAKER_01: What the fuck, bro?
38:51
SPEAKER_01: Jonathan Taylor?
38:54
SPEAKER_01: All this nigga has done is deliver and play good.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: Who?
38:58
SPEAKER_01: Jonathan Taylor?
39:00
SPEAKER_01: You gotta give me your honorable mentions?
39:02
SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
39:04
SPEAKER_05: This nigga went off last year.
39:06
SPEAKER_05: Bro, my top five, bro.
39:07
SPEAKER_05: What?
39:08
SPEAKER_05: My top five, I think, bro.
39:10
SPEAKER_05: No, it's okay.
39:11
SPEAKER_05: Get it.
39:13
SPEAKER_04: Let's hear it.
39:14
SPEAKER_01: No, bro.
39:14
SPEAKER_01: We go to your mention.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: I can just spend an hour on Yoshi.
39:20
SPEAKER_04: This shit is crazy, bro.
39:21
SPEAKER_04: Oh, bro.
39:23
SPEAKER_04: Okay, no, because we gotta go down the list.
39:25
SPEAKER_04: Don't take it personal.
39:26
SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
39:27
SPEAKER_04: It's your opinion.
39:28
SPEAKER_04: It's not even a public.
39:30
SPEAKER_01: It's laughable.
39:31
SPEAKER_05: Bro, the topable, bro.
39:33
SPEAKER_05: The top five in my list.
39:35
SPEAKER_05: The top five in, bro.
39:36
SPEAKER_05: The top, bro, there's no, bro.
39:38
SPEAKER_05: What?
39:38
SPEAKER_05: No, name it on this.
39:40
SPEAKER_08: Name your honorable mention.
39:41
SPEAKER_08: Okay, man.
39:42
SPEAKER_08: This nigga said Jonathan Taber.
39:44
SPEAKER_08: I want to hear.
39:48
SPEAKER_04: I want to hear the names you have in the case.
39:50
SPEAKER_04: Okay, I want to hear.
39:50
SPEAKER_09: Eric Henry is number one, honorable mention.
39:53
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
39:54
SPEAKER_09: He's been consistent.
39:55
SPEAKER_09: He's played very good last couple years, but eventually that body is going to break down.
40:02
SPEAKER_09: And last year, he had the numbers he had, partially because Lamar Jackson did not play in a good portion of last year.
40:10
SPEAKER_09: So they had no choice but to give him the fucking ball.
40:13
SPEAKER_09: Let's not forget that he cost them the game against the Bills in the first game of the season by fumbling.
40:20
SPEAKER_09: Let's not forget that he fumbled again two weeks later and cost them the game.
40:24
SPEAKER_09: Right?
40:24
SPEAKER_09: They're stumbling up benching that nigga in the first four or five games of the season.
40:28
SPEAKER_09: You're not gonna bench him.
40:30
SPEAKER_09: Hey, all I'm saying is you fumble that bitch four times, you will get benched.
40:33
SPEAKER_09: I don't give a fuck who you are.
40:35
SPEAKER_09: You lose the ball.
40:36
SPEAKER_09: That's your whole fucking main job as a running back, bro.
40:39
SPEAKER_09: Is to hang on to the fucking ball.
40:41
SPEAKER_09: Everybody, really.
40:42
SPEAKER_09: But if you running the ball, you getting you got the ball in your hand the most more other than the quarterback.
40:49
SPEAKER_09: That's, you know what I mean?
40:50
SPEAKER_09: Other than the quarterback, that's the only player on that offense that has the ball in their hand for the most part more than anybody else.
40:56
SPEAKER_09: More than receivers, tight ends, and the center, or my bad, other than the center and the quarterback.
41:03
SPEAKER_09: But you know what I'm saying?
41:04
SPEAKER_09: Like, that's your main job, right?
41:06
SPEAKER_09: You start tossing that ball, I don't give a fuck how many yards you run.
41:09
SPEAKER_09: You fumble that bitch at the end, we supposed to win.
41:12
SPEAKER_09: I'm taking you out.
41:13
SPEAKER_09: You could have had 250 gain, 500, 250 yards, we lost.
41:18
SPEAKER_09: I'm taking you out.
41:19
SPEAKER_09: So that's why I got him at number seven or number six, whatever.
41:23
SPEAKER_09: Um, because I just think that we don't, and they're coming in with a new head coach.
41:30
SPEAKER_09: Let's not forget that they got Jesse Mentor coming as their head coach, no hardball.
41:36
SPEAKER_09: We don't know what that offense is going to completely look like right off of it.
41:41
SPEAKER_09: Um we don't know, you know, Lamar health-wise.
41:46
SPEAKER_09: I mean, if you look at it, you know, a lot of people talk about Burrow, um, but if you look at Lamar, he's not finished in a lot of in what two or three of the last five, six seasons, he hasn't finished in a season.
41:58
SPEAKER_09: And, you know, I mean, and those and in those those seasons.
42:02
SPEAKER_09: But people don't talk about that.
42:04
SPEAKER_09: But, you know, he missed a good portion of last year.
42:08
SPEAKER_09: Good portion.
42:09
SPEAKER_09: That's hence says, Why did he miss the playoffs last year?
42:11
SPEAKER_09: Pittsburgh won that bitch with a missed field goal on Ravens' side, and they came out and hit a field goal for Pittsburgh.
42:19
SPEAKER_09: But it took everything for Pittsburgh to win that game and get into the playoffs with Lamar Jackson missing four or five, six games, however many games he missed.
42:29
SPEAKER_09: And then, you know, the year before that, uh can't remember exactly, but I I know for a fact, I mean, Tyron Huntley uh finished um you know, the season one in 2022 or 23.
42:45
SPEAKER_09: You know, I remember them going against us in the playoffs, and we beat them.
42:50
SPEAKER_09: Lamar Jackson didn't play the last three, four, or five games.
42:53
SPEAKER_09: So it's happened at least two or three seasons I know for a hundred percent sure where he did not finish the season or he missed a good portion.
43:02
SPEAKER_09: Um so you know, we don't know what's going on with that.
43:05
SPEAKER_09: So that's why I got him at seven as well.
43:08
SPEAKER_09: Um, number six, or outside looking at is Achiean.
43:14
SPEAKER_09: Um he had two good years.
43:17
SPEAKER_09: I'm a guy, I like longevity, I like consistency.
43:21
SPEAKER_09: He's been consistent the last two years.
43:24
SPEAKER_09: But also I gotta look at the best right now.
43:28
SPEAKER_09: Right?
43:28
SPEAKER_09: Like, so if I'm looking at like this this NBA standards, I'm looking right now.
43:31
SPEAKER_09: LeBron's the best in my opinion right now of this generation, but he's not the best player playing in NBA right now.
43:37
SPEAKER_09: I mean, so that's why I got Derrick Henry right there.
43:40
SPEAKER_09: He's one he's the best running back of this generation, in my opinion, or close to it, but he's not the best running back right now, in my opinion.
43:48
SPEAKER_09: So that ATN, I got to sit him at number six um because you know, I gotta see one more year.
43:56
SPEAKER_09: One more year, especially with a whole switch.
43:58
SPEAKER_09: You know, two.
44:00
SPEAKER_09: No McDaniels.
44:02
SPEAKER_09: You got Malik Willis.
44:03
SPEAKER_09: I can't remember who their coach is, but they didn't clean house.
44:06
SPEAKER_09: No Waddle, no Tyree Hill.
44:09
SPEAKER_09: They didn't clean house.
44:10
SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
44:11
SPEAKER_09: So I gotta see him.
44:12
SPEAKER_09: I mean, if he puts up them numbers again.
44:15
SPEAKER_03: I feel like I think HN's one of those dudes, but he's also gotten off in the last two years receiving as well.
44:24
SPEAKER_03: So he's one of those guys that can maybe more last year than the year before that for sure.
44:28
SPEAKER_09: The year before that was just coming on.
44:30
SPEAKER_09: Because he's spending a lot of those times or a lot of those uh fucking time in the backfield with fucking, I want to say Mostar.
44:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was Mostart that first yeah.
44:43
SPEAKER_09: From from for he played at 49ers before that got that decent contract, went to San Francisco, and then Mostar got hurt last year, and then Achan started slowly but surely becoming that number one, not last year, sorry, but two years ago, and then coming in last year, ACN was obviously the number one coming in, and then he played phenomenal.
45:04
SPEAKER_09: So that's why I gotta see one more year before I put him in that top five, in my opinion.
45:10
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I guess to me, everybody else that I'm putting in this top five has done it two or or more plus years.
45:17
SPEAKER_09: If not, they've you know been to the playoffs or they made uh they are very instrumental to their fucking team success, to what they do.
45:28
SPEAKER_09: So you want to crack the top five or should I?
45:34
SPEAKER_09: I can't I could have put some crazy ass shit.
45:38
SPEAKER_09: Go ahead.
45:38
SPEAKER_09: Okay, wait.
45:41
SPEAKER_09: Dijon.
45:45
SPEAKER_01: Oh my bro, come on, man.
45:47
SPEAKER_01: You playing with me, man.
45:49
SPEAKER_01: This nigga what I could have put him a little bit.
45:54
SPEAKER_01: And I just look, you know what, you know what made me split?
45:57
SPEAKER_01: And I'd have put him and your man's out of spot on here because they numbers is damn near identical.
46:04
SPEAKER_09: They've been in a year or the league three years together, and they numbers are damn near identical, rushing and receiving.
46:11
SPEAKER_09: So I done put them niggas on a split.
46:13
SPEAKER_09: And you telling me this nigga number five?
46:16
SPEAKER_09: What the fuck?
46:18
SPEAKER_09: Come on, man.
46:19
SPEAKER_09: I gotta hear this explanation.
46:21
SPEAKER_09: Tell me all about this, bro.
46:22
SPEAKER_09: This is this Bro, the four, the four people, I mean, the my top I won't say it right now.
46:30
SPEAKER_03: I won't say it right now, but my I mean, my top three, um, I get I mean they're all not even a few, like, they're all a few years old.
46:39
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I mean, I don't want to give it away too much, bro, but the top three, you you probably wouldn't, I mean, you wouldn't sure you wouldn't say or top or two of those three, I know for sure.
46:54
SPEAKER_04: We'll talk about it after, bro.
46:55
SPEAKER_04: So I mean, I mean, B Sean, I know that he's definitely, I mean, he's definitely up and like I mean it's I mean it's up and coming back already.
47:04
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I mean he's already the best running back in the fucking league right now.
47:08
SPEAKER_04: Atlanta, bro.
47:08
SPEAKER_04: He's in fucking Atlanta.
47:10
SPEAKER_04: That's my point.
47:11
SPEAKER_04: They gotta they gotta get something going on.
47:13
SPEAKER_04: That's my point.
47:14
SPEAKER_04: He's in Atlanta.
47:15
SPEAKER_04: They gotta get something going over.
47:17
SPEAKER_04: He's the only reason why niggas bring up Atlanta at all.
47:20
SPEAKER_06: He never made the playoffs, though.
47:22
SPEAKER_06: He's a running back.
47:23
SPEAKER_06: That's alright.
47:24
SPEAKER_06: It'd be different as a quarterback.
47:25
SPEAKER_06: You don't bro.
47:27
SPEAKER_06: That's cra.
47:28
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
47:30
SPEAKER_03: I'm not like I'm not trying to I'm not trying to say I'm not trying to fucking say, I'm not trying to grade.
47:35
SPEAKER_03: But show up how bad.
47:37
SPEAKER_03: I'm not trying to no like I I know he's good.
47:40
SPEAKER_03: He fucking put he's put Atlanta on his back since he's been there damn near.
47:45
SPEAKER_03: Like he's he's been like, I mean, I wouldn't but they if I had good receivers as well, though.
47:51
SPEAKER_03: If I had good receivers as well and Drake London.
47:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Drake London.
47:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I guess.
47:56
SPEAKER_04: I mean, yeah.
47:57
SPEAKER_04: Who's their is a they got they got Kyle Pitts?
48:00
SPEAKER_04: Is there uh is their tight end?
48:02
SPEAKER_03: He's a good tight end.
48:03
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, we ain't have no quarterback.
48:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they have played good since their first.
48:07
SPEAKER_09: And his percentage was a bad draft pick for me.
48:10
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
48:11
SPEAKER_09: So who's your who's who's your five?
48:14
SPEAKER_09: I gotta go Jonathan Taylor.
48:18
SPEAKER_09: Um he's top five.
48:21
SPEAKER_09: I gotta give him top five.
48:22
SPEAKER_09: He had a really good year last year.
48:23
SPEAKER_09: Really good year.
48:24
SPEAKER_09: Uh he's only had what what two bad years in his what six years?
48:30
SPEAKER_09: One of them was an injury.
48:32
SPEAKER_09: He's been on the Colts the whole time.
48:34
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, he's been Jonathan Taylor.
48:37
SPEAKER_09: How long has he been the one?
48:39
SPEAKER_09: Pretty much he's been around.
48:41
unknown: Okay.
48:41
SPEAKER_09: I mean, even the year going by in 2022, I think he led the league in Russia.
48:48
SPEAKER_09: And then he got hurt in 2023.
48:53
SPEAKER_09: Or and didn't play good in 24 or vice versa, one or two, and then came back in 2025 and had that good year.
49:00
SPEAKER_09: But he had a good year, a very good year before in 2021.
49:06
SPEAKER_09: Uh the year the Rams won the Super Bowl, and then had and then led the league in rushing in 2022.
49:11
SPEAKER_09: And like I said, and then last year, he was leading the league in rushing, you know, and fucking, you know, top fantasy player in all of fantasy for like the first like eight, nine weeks.
49:23
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
49:23
SPEAKER_09: I mean, it was averaging like two, three touchdowns a fucking game.
49:26
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
49:27
SPEAKER_03: No, I know that I mean I know that at the start of at the start of last year, didn't the Colt like the Colts started really good and they kind of they kind of fell off a little bit at the end of the year.
49:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Daniel Jones got hurt in pressure.
49:37
SPEAKER_09: They had fun, they had to bring in Phillip Rivers.
49:39
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
49:40
SPEAKER_09: I mean, that's going back to our fucking podcast episode we had.
49:44
SPEAKER_09: Offense wasn't was really able to flow the same.
49:47
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
49:47
SPEAKER_09: I mean, you missed your quarterback, so you know they the defense know who you're giving the ball to.
49:52
SPEAKER_09: You got Riley Leonard as your backup, and then you gotta bring in, you know, 40, whatever year old Phillip Rivers off his couch.
50:00
SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
50:01
SPEAKER_09: The defense is not worried about you throwing the ball at all.
50:04
SPEAKER_09: No.
50:04
SPEAKER_09: And Daniel Jones had a a good year last year, so the defense kind of had to respect that.
50:11
SPEAKER_09: So Taylor got off.
50:13
SPEAKER_09: Um so that's why I got him a number five.
50:17
SPEAKER_09: Uh what do you got?
50:21
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
50:22
SPEAKER_03: Number four.
50:25
SPEAKER_03: I should have him hired, but I fucking I got these guys ahead, bro.
50:33
SPEAKER_09: And I and I' Barclay and Henry.
50:38
SPEAKER_09: Barclay better be.
50:42
SPEAKER_09: We're gonna have some.
50:43
SPEAKER_03: No, so I mean, yeah, I mean, Gibbs, I mean, I I mean, I hope Gibbs has a better year than all the people that I have in my top three.
50:51
SPEAKER_03: He, I mean, and potentially he definitely could.
50:54
SPEAKER_03: Like, but um just kind of what we've been saying, or kind of what we were saying a little bit before, Gibbs has never had a backfield to himself.
51:03
SPEAKER_03: Um, and this is a fair like he has Pacheco, um, new running back, hasn't played with them.
51:10
SPEAKER_03: Um I don't know.
51:11
SPEAKER_03: I mean, the offense is still the same, but I don't know.
51:14
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I feel like this is kind of like we didn't not coming off a bad year, but not coming not coming off the year that we wanted.
51:23
SPEAKER_03: Um definitely have some pressure on us for sure.
51:25
SPEAKER_03: Still being favorites to come out of the um still being still being favorites to come out of the north because our I mean be because I mean because we like we've still had class, like I mean, like even ever since we lost to San Fran in that NFC championship, we've still like we've still had pretty like still had pretty good regular seasons.
51:45
SPEAKER_03: It's been it's been injuries and fucking like I mean, dude, it's been inconsistency for our defense, and like even going into this year, like so why would y'all be the favorite?
51:56
SPEAKER_03: Well, because because we have because we have one of the best games because we have one of the best running backs going into this year, the top five receiver, and like debate, like I don't know, like I wouldn't say debatable top five tight ends.
52:10
SPEAKER_03: No, I wouldn't say he's a top five tight end.
52:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean that's that's not debatable.
52:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
52:14
SPEAKER_02: That's what we're gonna say about that.
52:17
SPEAKER_09: I thought he was gonna say Jared.
52:19
SPEAKER_09: No, I won't.
52:21
SPEAKER_09: I'll say him next.
52:22
SPEAKER_09: Okay, Stanley Porter, that's not to me, in my opinion, that's not what he does for y'all.
52:27
SPEAKER_09: That's not fucking debatable, bro.
52:29
SPEAKER_09: That's he's a top five tight end.
52:31
SPEAKER_03: So we Jared Goff is a top five quarterback, but that's your opinion.
52:36
SPEAKER_03: The fact the fact the fact that he has the weapons that he can go to, though.
52:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, that's my point.
52:42
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it it makes him better, and we know that he has that pass game, though.
52:46
SPEAKER_03: Like we've got to be.
52:46
SPEAKER_03: He had weapons everywhere he's been.
52:49
SPEAKER_03: And he won a Super Bowl.
52:50
SPEAKER_09: I mean, I'm just saying.
52:53
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, weapons in fucking the Rams, LA.
52:56
SPEAKER_09: He had Ty Gurley, he had Cooper Cup, he had fucking whatever.
53:00
SPEAKER_09: In LA, they went to the Super Bowl.
53:02
SPEAKER_09: LA was good.
53:02
SPEAKER_09: They ain't not been good.
53:04
SPEAKER_09: LA been good for the last fucking 10 years.
53:07
SPEAKER_09: And then went to Detroit, had good running backs, had good wide receivers, had good defense, whatever.
53:13
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was injured, but you know, what but I do I want to see, I do want to see Gibbs have if I mean Gibbs have Gibbs have a good year this year.
53:22
SPEAKER_03: We get back into the playoffs, get, I mean, just kind of let the kind of let the fans know the lines didn't go anywhere.
53:30
SPEAKER_03: Gibbs, um, like our offense is still what our offense has been, and Gibbs goes up into my top three into next year, like you know what I'm saying.
53:38
SPEAKER_03: But um, what's who's yeah, your four?
53:41
SPEAKER_09: Number four for me would be uh well, it's kind of a because I have like a tie going on, but number four would be uh Cook.
53:58
SPEAKER_09: James Cook is played good the last three years.
54:02
SPEAKER_04: He's not super far off, bro.
54:03
SPEAKER_04: He was my six, he's only a four.
54:06
SPEAKER_09: Come on, bro.
54:07
SPEAKER_09: Top five and not top five is big.
54:11
SPEAKER_09: In my opinion.
54:13
SPEAKER_09: Because he's you know, he's been consistent.
54:15
SPEAKER_09: He's played good the last two or three years.
54:20
SPEAKER_09: Um probably rushing in and receiving.
54:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
54:24
SPEAKER_09: That's probably one probably the best fantasy top two or three, I fancy.
54:31
SPEAKER_09: Between him and gives a B zone.
54:34
SPEAKER_09: Uh but B zone had a couple of games.
54:40
SPEAKER_09: Uh you know, right there those three as far as uh fantasy points slasher.
54:49
SPEAKER_09: Um which, you know, I don't know if fantasy isn't fantasy, but that kind of correlates, you know, sometimes if you have a kind of a good season or, you know, whatever, if you have a good year in fantasy, chances you're having a good year in the regular season.
55:05
SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
55:05
SPEAKER_03: Like if you put 30, 40 points to fantasy, you fucking depending on what kind of yeah, just what kind of stats you're gonna do.
55:11
SPEAKER_03: Like just how many yards, target, yeah, just what just what you're doing.
55:14
SPEAKER_09: But I got Cook there, and I think he's gonna have another good year, and I believe in him.
55:18
SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
55:19
SPEAKER_09: I believe James Cook is you know, he's he's a dog.
55:22
SPEAKER_09: He's in a good offense over there in Buffalo, definitely.
55:25
SPEAKER_09: And it was hard, you know, because you still got you know the McCaffrey's um of the world.
55:30
SPEAKER_09: So I think it's gonna be hopefully, you know, never notice his his injury shit and health.
55:38
SPEAKER_09: Um, but I'm hoping that he has a has a good fucking uh healthy year.
55:48
SPEAKER_09: Um definitely could have put up there, but yeah, I got him at at at number four.
56:00
SPEAKER_09: What do you got at number three?
56:02
SPEAKER_09: Saquon.
56:05
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
56:08
SPEAKER_03: Um maybe I could have switched him on my number two.
56:14
SPEAKER_03: But um I don't know.
56:17
SPEAKER_03: Um Barkley, I don't know.
56:20
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I'm just not I'm just not a huge fan.
56:22
SPEAKER_03: I'm just not a huge fan of Philly.
56:23
SPEAKER_03: Um Saquon definitely had well cause what what when did he have that um what was it, the 2000 rush yard year?
56:31
SPEAKER_03: Was that two, or that wasn't this last year, but two years ago?
56:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I mean, he didn't play bad last year, but um just not a thousand again.
56:42
SPEAKER_03: Or how many?
56:42
SPEAKER_03: Over a thousand again.
56:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:46
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't quite as good as wasn't quite as good as the last season.
56:49
SPEAKER_03: But um I s I s I still respect him though.
56:52
SPEAKER_03: Um won that won that championship with Philly, won that Super Bowl, not a championship, but um where do they where where did they get to in the last um lost to the 49ers last year?
57:04
SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
57:06
SPEAKER_03: Um, I mean so I so I mean we'll see if see what the 49ers do.
57:12
SPEAKER_03: Um they I mean it'll be interesting without AJ Brown as well.
57:16
SPEAKER_03: Their defense didn't really change a ton.
57:19
SPEAKER_03: Philly.
57:21
SPEAKER_03: No, no, I mean I mean I was talking about Philly because I mean Philly's defense.
57:25
SPEAKER_03: I mean it'll be interesting to see how they do it without AJ Devontae's number one.
57:30
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I mean Sa Saquon's probably gonna be good.
57:34
SPEAKER_03: I mean Saquon's probably I mean it's good for another probably 11, 1200 yard year for sure.
57:41
SPEAKER_03: I mean we'll see yeah.
57:42
SPEAKER_03: I mean that's why I have him that's why I have him in my top three.
57:45
SPEAKER_03: He's definitely definitely gonna be up there for sure.
57:48
SPEAKER_09: But I think you should be a little higher, but like uh games and 1A1B or whatever you want to do with Games and B genre.
58:03
SPEAKER_09: I think uh uh every bit of part the fuck with Gives.
58:08
SPEAKER_09: Gives us a dog, you're from Alabama.
58:10
SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
58:11
SPEAKER_09: So you don't know the Bama boys, you know they don't play.
58:15
SPEAKER_09: You don't know how to run the ball.
58:17
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you don't best safety.
58:18
SPEAKER_09: You know, when I was talking about earlier Deion Branch, that's from fucking he's from Alabama.
58:24
SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
58:25
SPEAKER_09: SSC boys don't play.
58:27
SPEAKER_09: Gives a dog, he he's been a dog since he came in the league.
58:31
SPEAKER_09: Uh good at catching the ball, good at running the ball, obviously.
58:36
SPEAKER_09: Um I think he's gonna have another good year as long as he stays healthy, I just say that not him, I just say that for everybody, you know, because the ball, so you never know.
58:45
SPEAKER_09: Because if he stays healthy, then I can see him, you know, putting up fucking close to 2,000 yards rushing.
58:53
SPEAKER_09: If Detroit does right by giving him the ball like they should.
58:57
SPEAKER_09: Um, but also I wouldn't lean on him a hundred percent.
59:01
SPEAKER_09: I'd I would invest in Pacheco as well.
59:05
SPEAKER_09: He spent money to get him.
59:07
SPEAKER_09: You know, Pacheco is is is not a bad running back.
59:10
SPEAKER_09: I just think um Kansas City having that pick at where they had uh gave him a little bit more flexibility um to let and more freedom, I guess, or more, you know um confidence to let Pacheco walk.
59:31
SPEAKER_09: You know, if they would have been you know in the bottom half of that draft order.
59:37
SPEAKER_09: Maybe a prior would have let Pacheco go, but you know, it would have been different.
59:42
SPEAKER_09: Um even though they didn't draft a running back, but you know, they had the money to spend on on Kenneth Walker.
59:49
SPEAKER_09: We'll see how that pans out.
59:50
SPEAKER_09: That's a player who's hasn't played a full season since he's been in the league.
59:55
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
59:55
SPEAKER_09: You know, we can't decide who went out and spent that money and didn't want to bring back Pacheco who you know hasn't played a full season either.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_09: I think except for the first or second one.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_09: So they want to put the Super Bowl MVP next to an NBA.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, John is carried Atlanta, he's been everything Atlanta, you know what I'm saying?
1:00:18
SPEAKER_09: That dude is a fucking dog.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, he's a fucking monster.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_09: God damn animal, bro.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_03: Top two, now two, RB, McCaffrey, Henry.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_03: McCaffrey, Derek.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_03: King Derrick, baby.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_03: You talking all that rah-rah?
1:00:40
SPEAKER_03: I got Derek up there, man.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_09: You telling me right now, if you're drafting a fucking team, we playing Mad and College or whatever, fantasy draft, you picking Derrick Henry first.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_09: No.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_09: Fuck that or McCaffrey.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_09: No, you're not.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_09: You taking Gibbs or Bijan.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_09: If a motherfucker take Gibbs first, you taking Bijan if he's available.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_09: Them being number one is crazy, bro.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_09: If we talking of this generation or or, you know what I mean, last five years, then yeah.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_09: But we talking going into this year, like you said, those are the best two running backs, they might not even finish the season.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_03: No, I don't think that.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_07: No.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_03: I they'll finish the season, bro.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_07: McCaffrey?
1:01:31
SPEAKER_07: McCaffrey would be good, bro.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_07: And he had two back-to-back full seasons.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_07: This last season he was I said back to back full seasons ever.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_07: Okay, back to back.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_09: He's grand.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_09: The year before last year, he was hurt all year.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_09: We'll see if he proves you're wrong this year.
1:01:49
SPEAKER_07: Derrick Henry, you count on him to be again another year taking him hits, being the best running back coming in this year.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_03: I think he's gonna, I think he's gonna be I think he's gonna be good for Baltimore, bro.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_09: You better take it back first down.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_09: Can we do fantasy football with Christian shit?
1:02:08
SPEAKER_09: Don't have to take a Derek figure to number one pick.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_01: Neither one of the niggas gonna be on your team, bro.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I love it, bro.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_01: That's funny.
1:02:36
SPEAKER_01: It's your crazy.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_09: I you know, I can't, I'm not knocking it.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_09: It's just to me, it's funny.
1:02:42
SPEAKER_09: I just, I was not last.
1:02:45
SPEAKER_09: I knew Henry because I heard the little Henry talk with you and B.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_09: So I knew Henry, and then my response earlier when I said Henry as an honor to mention the way he looked at he on his list.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_09: But McCaffrey, that was on the left field.
1:02:59
SPEAKER_09: I did not expect that at all.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_09: That's crazy.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_03: Dude, I mean, okay, I mean, McCaffrey, just the fact that last year, and I mean, I feel like every like the the years that he's been good for fucking the 49ers, bro, is he's been damn near leading them in rushing and receiving.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_03: And like, bro, like grant like granted he hasn't been able to stay super healthy, but whenever he's on the field, bro, that motherfucker is a dog, bro.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_03: He's getting the like bro, he's automatically.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_09: I just don't think he's gonna put another good or another 100%.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_09: I don't think he's gonna give you 16-17 games again.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_04: He might he might he might not, dude, but fucking, I think even if he still gives you a good 13-14 and the Niners are good.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_03: And but but if he but if he and if he's putting up numbers as the one running back on that team, though, and he can be and he can be healthy in the playoff times and play the best, then you have no choice but to.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_09: But do I think he's gonna do that?
1:04:03
SPEAKER_04: So so am I so am I crazy?
1:04:05
SPEAKER_04: Like, so like the Niners are the Niners.
1:04:09
SPEAKER_04: The Niners have potential to do and fucking games.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_06: I think you're absolutely crazy.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_04: The Niners have been to the Niners have been to that spot though, haven't they?
1:04:20
SPEAKER_04: Atlanta, Atlanta, I mean, the g uh Detroit has against the Niners, but yeah, but we didn't beat him.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_03: We didn't beat him, though.
1:04:29
SPEAKER_09: I mean McCaffrey beat us that yeah.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, McCaffrey did.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_09: Okay, so I understand that you're going okay.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_09: I I I respect Atlanta.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_09: I got that.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_09: And that's similar to why I got Saquon as my number one.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_09: Because I think Saquon is the best running back overall.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_09: He has a ring.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:04:45
SPEAKER_09: Uh none of the players out here I'm looking at has a ring.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_09: Um, that's number one.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_09: He was the best player and played the best during that run.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_09: During that ring run, sorry, he played the best to be in my mind.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_09: Um he had a year, year and a half of unhealthiness in New York, but played fantastic.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_09: Other than that, played good last year.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_09: Philly didn't play good.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_09: They didn't run the ball enough.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_09: They ran the ball a third less of what they did the year before that, but he still had over a thousand yards and still had a good year.
1:05:23
SPEAKER_09: I think he's gonna have another good year.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_09: Um, I think he's the best running back overall in the fucking league.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_09: He's the most dangerous.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_09: When he went to Philly, everybody knew that was a Super Bowl coming.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_09: We knew it right off.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_09: That was the last thing anybody that was not a Philly fan wanted to see was him go to Philly.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_09: Um, I couldn't come to my last year.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and I couldn't I couldn't come to my last year until they lost because they're the champs.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_02: So the championship?
1:05:54
SPEAKER_09: Huh?
1:05:54
SPEAKER_09: Or no McCaffrey played, yeah.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_09: Last year, yeah, or this year.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_09: When they lost the when they beat the Eagles.
1:06:04
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, Philly's.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_09: I mean Philly.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_09: Some of them was both.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_09: I mean, maybe there's a lack of issues, but whatever.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_09: Moving on, Doctor.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_03: I don't really mention QB's 678 Hertz Dat Caleb.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_03: What do you think about that?
1:06:23
SPEAKER_03: I like it.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_03: I like it.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_03: Hertz, I mean, I don't I mean Hertz has got a ring, but I feel like he's he's had a really good team around him.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_03: Um he's always had two really good receivers in AJ Brown and Devontae Smith.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_03: Um I mean, I mean, got like Goddard's their receiver, isn't he?
1:06:48
SPEAKER_02: No, he's fucking No, he's not for Dallas.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_03: No, yeah.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_03: Dallas.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_09: I mean, I'm sorry, uh Philly.
1:06:54
SPEAKER_09: Dallas Goddard.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_03: So he I mean, I guess he's not even like a top end title, but like Hertz, Hertz is good, but I'm not.
1:07:04
SPEAKER_03: They're just these other five, I mean, the other five on here, um just show me more passing like passing wise.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_03: Um I don't know.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_03: Hertz is Hurts is alright, but I just don't I don't rate him super high.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_03: Dak, um Dak, on the other hand, has kind of um he honestly has kind of shown a lot, but it with him just kind of not being able to get over those the hump of those like really hard games, those high pressure moments.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_03: Um like I mean, I think he's made the playoffs.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_03: I was looking at it, he made it four times, lost in the first game two times, one won the first game two times, and then lost in the second round.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_03: So he's two and four.
1:07:52
SPEAKER_03: Or yeah, or no, no, no.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, no, he's two and two.
1:07:57
SPEAKER_03: Or no, no, because he's played six games.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's he's two and four, two and four.
1:08:01
SPEAKER_03: So um, but whenever he's got to that second round, he's falling out.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_03: Um he's also had he's also had C D Lamb um debatably like top five receiver, or I mean yeah, debatably top five.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_03: He's been like I mean top ten receiver ever since he's been in the league.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_03: Like he's been solid.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_03: Um but and then Caleb Williams kind of coming up rookie.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, I mean he had a good year with Chicago.
1:08:29
SPEAKER_03: Granted, he had an amazing play caller um that had a had a great year in Detroit the year before that.
1:08:37
SPEAKER_03: Um Chicago picked him up.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_03: And they had no, I mean, bro, he was the number one pick in the draft.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna cool, baby.
1:08:44
SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give anything against him.
1:08:49
SPEAKER_03: He was the number one pick in the draft for a reason, so the fact that they got the best offensive play caller in the league at the time was definitely um I mean definitely worked out for him.
1:09:01
SPEAKER_03: We saw that last year.
1:09:03
SPEAKER_03: They were they were I mean I mean they worked together really well, but the fact that he got the best offensive play caller and was a good good pickup for Chicago for sure.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_03: Definitely.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_03: Um and it I mean only did only did good things for Caleb and their offense.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_03: Um I mean I was I mean, even I mean, even him, bro, he's got good young offense, he's got good young rookies that um at receiver, um, tight ends, Colson Lovelins, Dog, um Adunze, um Luther Burden.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_03: I feel like they have a few more, but like I feel like those are kind of their main two main two young ones because they traded DJ Moore.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_03: Um Kyle Manung guy was another rookie, right?
1:09:47
SPEAKER_03: That was kind of getting off for them a bit.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Col Komet too.
1:09:50
SPEAKER_03: Love Lang, a boy from Michigan.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_03: I said that, yeah.
1:09:53
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so yes, right.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_03: No, so he's got some weapons over there for sure, but kind of on the on the lower end of my of my QBs.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_03: But if he has another good year, then then um we'll see.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, I don't know.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_03: Because I'm I'm not super high on the Bears.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_03: I mean, just I think the Packers and the Lions are gonna have better seasons.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_03: Just because last year the Bears had one of the easiest, easiest schedules, and this year's they have one of the hardest.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_03: So that's what I'm saying.
1:10:26
SPEAKER_03: Um That's fair.
1:10:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_03: That's I th I I think their NFC championship or no or NFC or divisional.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_03: That's that's gonna be a little bit of a hangover.
1:10:39
SPEAKER_03: But um your honorable mentions, my boy.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_09: Uh we only did only did two honorable mentions.
1:10:46
SPEAKER_09: Uh Caleb is number six for me.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_09: Um sorry seven.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_09: Caleb is number seven for me.
1:10:58
SPEAKER_09: Um I told you.
1:11:07
SPEAKER_09: I said this all last year.
1:11:09
SPEAKER_09: Um, I remember saying something to Chris uh about this time last year, and I was like, you know what?
1:11:17
SPEAKER_09: Something tells me um Chicago, Caleb Williams, they got a really good year this year.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_09: I think they're gonna be the best team in that division.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_09: And he laughed at me.
1:11:30
SPEAKER_09: Um should've put some money on it.
1:11:32
SPEAKER_09: I should have.
1:11:32
SPEAKER_09: And they end up being the best division.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_09: And I think I believe they're gonna pick up exactly where they left off at last year.
1:11:40
SPEAKER_09: I believe every bit of that team, I think the defense was their kind of Keely Sill last year because of injury.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_09: Um, they missed Jalen Johnson, their best cornerback.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_09: One of the better cornerbacks in the league was out a good portion last year.
1:11:59
SPEAKER_09: Kyler Gordon was out a good portion of last year.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_09: They missed a good P couple good pieces.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_09: You know, you missing the safety and the cornerback, the best at or the best on your team with what they do, that's gonna hurt you.
1:12:13
SPEAKER_09: Um and that hurt them last year.
1:12:16
SPEAKER_09: And right, Nashawn, or not Sean, or Roshan Wright, yeah, um, he led their team in interceptions, and the defense is kind of like I said, their their Achilles hill.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_09: I think their defense is gonna be better this year.
1:12:31
SPEAKER_09: Okay, that's number one.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_09: I think Caleb Williams is gonna be better.
1:12:34
SPEAKER_09: I think Caleb Williams is gonna keep getting better at what he does.
1:12:39
SPEAKER_09: I mean, he's a pure passer.
1:12:41
SPEAKER_09: He is, I think, uh, call me crazy.
1:12:47
SPEAKER_09: Say what you want.
1:12:49
SPEAKER_09: You know, um numbers may not show it in a couple years just because of where the player was when they got drafted and who they were with and who they had to coach, but he reminds me of Mahomes, but a little bit more accurate.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_09: Um he's very accurate, and he's playing in a tough city, a tough town.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_09: Um, they haven't had he's damn near the best quarterback they've had in the last 30 years already, in my opinion.
1:13:19
SPEAKER_09: From what I've been watching football the last 30 years, 25 years as the best quarterback Chicago has had is Caleb Williams.
1:13:26
SPEAKER_03: Grin, he was the number one pick.
1:13:28
SPEAKER_09: He was, yeah.
1:13:29
SPEAKER_09: I yeah, I mean, yeah.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_09: But we've seen a lot of number one picks go by the wayside.
1:13:33
SPEAKER_09: I think uh he's gonna continue to show the doubters, the naysayers, the people who don't who believe he's good but don't think he's good enough.
1:13:44
SPEAKER_09: I think he's gonna show him.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_09: Um I think Chicago has a lot of weapons.
1:13:51
SPEAKER_09: They have they can run the ball.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_09: They got Swift coming back.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_09: Manange, like you said, um, like you said, Luther Burden played very good last year coming in second year now.
1:14:02
SPEAKER_09: If they can keep a doomsday on the field if he can stay healthy, that's a major plus.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_09: They didn't need DJ Morris why they traded him.
1:14:10
SPEAKER_09: Especially when you have a two tight end system like the way they do, with Cole Komet and close in the Loveland.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_09: You got both of them.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_09: You don't need three good wide receivers.
1:14:21
SPEAKER_09: They can run the ball.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_09: We have a good line.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_09: They have the best line in that division, in my opinion.
1:14:32
SPEAKER_09: A little outro, yeah.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_09: So, you know, I got Caleb, um, that's mine, and then finishing out number six is Lamar.
1:14:42
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
1:14:43
SPEAKER_09: Uh just because he uh is a very good quarterback, better than I thought he was gonna be, has improved every year in passing, um, continues to improve, but is not well that has been become a question as of late, but also playoffs.
1:15:03
SPEAKER_09: He does not has not played or has not performed like always he should, like a two-time MVP, in my opinion, should have performed in those playoffs.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_09: That's true.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_09: He's a he's a two-time, or I think two-time MVP, I'm pretty sure.
1:15:16
SPEAKER_09: Um and he didn't perform uh to the best of his abilities.
1:15:22
SPEAKER_09: Um But you know, he's accomplished a lot and more than I thought.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_09: I would have never, ever, ever, ever thought that he would be a fucking, you know, two-time MVP.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_09: I just didn't, you know, from Louisville.
1:15:37
SPEAKER_09: He had some fucking fucking good years.
1:15:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he didn't just not get a two years ago.
1:15:43
SPEAKER_03: I mean, just just not not throwing intercepts, like didn't throw interceptions, yeah, a stupid amount of touchdowns.
1:15:49
SPEAKER_09: 45 touchdowns, four picks.
1:15:51
SPEAKER_09: I mean, that's yeah, if your name is Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady or any of those type of quarterbacks, you're getting glazed for that forever.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_09: You mean they always don't go back and look, you know, but yeah, so that's running around my um my my top six.
1:16:11
SPEAKER_03: I think he's still he's still, I mean, it's tough because they're in your boys' division, but they're definitely gonna he give you boys.
1:16:17
SPEAKER_03: I think they're definitely gonna give them a bit of a fight.
1:16:19
SPEAKER_03: I mean, yeah, so Lamar's gonna get it.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_02: You got Rogers coming back to DK.
1:16:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean, dude, I I wouldn't be I wouldn't wipe I wouldn't wipe the 42.
1:16:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_02: But uh yeah, I mean uh I don't know.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I do I do feel you, I mean, I don't wanna, yeah.
1:16:42
SPEAKER_03: Well go into go into the top five of the QB's at the start of next episode.
1:16:46
SPEAKER_09: Um but tune in to find the top five quarterbacks.