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Dire Straits · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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  because we're talking about Dire Straits.
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  Hello. I feel like, whenever Fredo's
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  on, I have to make the pun as terrible as possible.
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  I don't know why that is, but It comes with the territory with
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  him. That's right.
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  Exactly. See, Bob knows.
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  All right, so we're talking Dire Straits today, and we're going
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  to go right to you Fredo, because you put Dire, Straits On
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  The Board. Talk to me about Dire Straits.
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  Why do we have to talk about them today?
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  Well, first of all, it's a mom, no surprise that I put it on the
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  board because every good band that you've done, I put on the
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  board, every last one of them. So diagram, Dire Straits Hall of
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  Fame band. That's One of the most
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  recognized and yet at the same time, underappreciated bands.
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  Mama it's funny. If if you think it was what
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  Clutch or we said? Where was it clutch?
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  Everybody knows him, but it was easy.
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  Topping. ZZ Top where it's everybody
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  knows them and yet, nobody will say that.
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  That that Dire Straits is their favorite band.
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  However comma. Um, nobody will say that they
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  hate him. Like God fucking love that bad.
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  You definitely said that about the cars and the cars there are
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  no, you know. Um, it's they fall in that line,
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  too. And remember, like, when we do
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  most of these kinds of things, you know, I'm I'm I'm a
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  conscious sentient being as these songs Getting turned out.
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  And I remember being 14 listening to us, all to swing
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  for the first time in hearing that guitar, which was unlike
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  anything else that was on the radio.
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  You know, 78 79, you know, you got, you got some punk, you got
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  this Co you say, 14 or 40, shut up.
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  Fucking dick, wads. And anyway, you hear that guitar
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  for the first time and again, this is, you know, 78 79 disco
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  early New Wave. Post-punk stuff is coming out.
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  The the class, you know, Arena Rock is in full swing, you know,
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  Ben's like sticks and Foreigner and journey.
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  Then Here Comes This been out of England with this guitar sound
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  that's just fucking rocking, you know back to that storytelling
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  style of singing, you know. It's not just really love you,
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  you know. I think it's a great knowledge
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  you know that the spinning the yarn as you hear the song.
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  So to me it was wonderful. So I said yeah let's do this and
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  so when you put them up on the board it basically came.
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  With the caveat of, hey, put my friend cigar Bob on there and I
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  was like, all right, so so what is it about diaster?
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  And by the way, we will not be calling you Bob to today, even
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  though Fredo insisted we call to Bob, to he's very, he's very
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  formal like that. Yes, absolutely.
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  His father's, just Roberto. Exactly.
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  So Bob tell me about Dire Straits.
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  Why is this the entry point for D program for you?
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  What is there about Dire Straits that you love?
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  A lot of things really. I think the I think the
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  compositions are really creative and unique and I think as we go
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  through our list tonight, I think we're going to find that
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  there is a lot of musically. There's a ton of variety in what
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  they put out. Mark Knopfler has a really
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  really interesting vocal styling to and his guitar.
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  Playing of course is is the key to entry for everybody with that
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  if you're if you're a music fan and Mark Knopfler is not in your
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  top, you know, 10 or so guitarist, I don't know.
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  You're what you're listening to. So I think there's a lot of
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  reasons why. And I think you know, I think
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  we'll get into it later when we start going through the list,
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  but when you, when you get to a certain point in Dire Straits,
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  it becomes Something, that everybody everybody gets into at
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  some point in some of their, some of their music and some of
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  the totally not because stylistically, there's so much
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  variety there. So as Fredo, put that out, like,
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  I swear this all came together, really fast.
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  Fredo puts it out in sis, Bob comes on.
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  And then, so this was happening in, like our cars group and
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  immediately ran goes, yeah. I'm in on Dire Straits.
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  So, Randy, Dire Straits. Tell me about it.
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  Well, it's funny because actually, I had no idea.
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  Whether or not there was a panel put together for Dire Straits, I
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  guess I happen to walk into it at the right time because I kind
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  of got rekindled with Dire Straits because what I do for my
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  son sometimes is if you know get bored in the morning.
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  So put on some like 80's 90's, music videos and the Walk of
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  Life came video, came up with all the sports bloopers and
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  stuff like that. I'm like, goddamn why have I not
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  done the full full Deep dive into Dire Straits.
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  That's that's a real shame. So it kind of that day.
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  Like all right let's go through all their like hits and videos
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  and stuff on like shit. This is a much better band than
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  I ever gave him credit for and then doing more of the research,
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  you know, I both Fredo and Bob both said it, like, you know,
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  that's just Mark, Knopfler is a virtuoso guitar player and an
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  extremely creative writer and a good Storyteller.
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  And yeah, I think for the 70s in that little spot, you know,
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  right after kind of the Ramones and just going all that it It
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  was tough to find that and they kind of it was hard for them to
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  really fit in somewhere because it was the tide was turning, but
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  it was turning to New Wave. It was turning into kind of
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  those stereotypical 80's bands that had one or two hit songs
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  that kind of came about at that time.
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  So they weren't really following the new way of trend, but they
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  weren't really following anything else that was going on.
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  At the time, the closest thing is like, they were very close to
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  Eric. Captain.
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  And which is interesting because Eric Clapton happened to be a
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  pretty big influence. And, you know, Mark Knopfler, I
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  think helped him write some songs.
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  Help them, write a record, something like that.
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  And then, like the back half of the career, it because they've
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  gone through so many different styles.
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  And I think as Bob mentioned that like you can go from very
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  bluesy, which I think is there like, you know, main style that
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  they kind of stick to the main genre, then you can get some
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  like jazz in there. There's Songs in here with like
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  a little bit of a swing, no pun intended.
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  And there are also, you know, when you get to kind of the deep
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  part of the, the catalog here, you know, the the second and
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  last record is maybe their most popular record and you have
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  Arena. Rock hits on that and it feels
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  like when that started to develop, may be the most popular
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  artists in the world. At that time, one of them at
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  least was Bruce Springsteen. And I got that, like, very
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  Bruce. Springsteen vibe from him, like,
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  do you can easily see Springsteen write a song called
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  walk a light like that, that is a very similar song that he
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  would write. So I thought it was just a
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  really interesting listen to get everything kind of mixed in
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  together and then get to see, kind of what I never really
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  expected out of Dire Straits. So, yeah, that's where I'm at.
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  You know, it's interesting when you talk about that.
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  That sound late 70s, early. Early 80s where they don't fit
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  in anywhere and we see a lot of bands like that.
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  The Knack would like that. The cars were like that.
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  Of course, Devo and B-52 were like that but you had all of
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  these kind of groups that and they all get lumped into
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  post-punk. They get lumped into New Wave
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  but they're not. It's really, you know, figure
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  78, 77 to 82. We really interesting for a lot
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  of bands, coming out with it, where they couldn't have been
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  lumped in anywhere. You know, they got lumped in and
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  catch all stuff. So Dire Straits from me, was
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  somebody can chime in there. I was just going to say, Randy's
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  point about Bruce. Springsteen was a member of one
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  of the E Street Band, guys. Keyboard player Fredo help me
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  with the name. I think it Roy Bittman.
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  Does that sound familiar to you a little bit?
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  I think he played both bands, so I think stylistically and Mark
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  you know look at it the other people he's played with even It
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  later on his solo career. He doesn't, he's not
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  genre-specific, he just writes songs.
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  So I think that that kind of attitude or that kind of styling
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  really makes him, you know almost you know the anti
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  stylistic kind of thing that everybody likes some part of it.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  I mean there's so much ground to cover so totally and sound-wise
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  here and so My jump in point obviously is anybody my age
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  would be money for nothing and you know, that video was
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  massive. And, you know, like I just
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  remember the first time I see it being like holy cow.
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  What is this? Whoa, that is and I mean of
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  course you look at it now and it's like, oh well you know now
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  yeah but look how is that considered like that?
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  The extreme technology. It was it was groundbreaking at
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  the time it was like this hasn't been done but You know, that
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  takes me directly to UHF which has The Beverly Hillbillies song
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  and, you know, my respect level. When I got older I got the UHF
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  DVD and Al is on there. Talking about them, doing
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  Beverly Hillbillies in it. Actually may have been the
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  complete. Like it might have been his his
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  collection of videos. Either way, he's talking about
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  Beverly Hillbillies and Mark Knopfler insisted.
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  Yes, you can do the song, but I'm going to come play the lick
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  and Came and played the guitar for Weird.
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  Al for wow, really Hillbillies. And I was like, that's fucking
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  cool. I like that.
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  Um because you know there's there's some people like Cooley.
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  Aye God. Rest his soul, who said, no fuck
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  you wear it out. You can't do my song.
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  But I always thought that was cool and you know.
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  So there's there's that song, there's that story and then
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  there's like a handful of other songs that kind of like swim
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  around in and out of my ear that I didn't quite realize, it was
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  them or new. Has them but didn't didn't lump
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  it together. So this was this was mostly a
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  discovery but there's not as much sounds is there are there's
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  not a lot of music here. Fredo, you know, there's this
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  isn't some like cumbersome discography to take on.
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  But did you as you know, as the panel comes together?
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  Did you already know your 20 songs?
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  Or was? There was there a little bit of
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  gamesmanship coming in? I always know my Not my full 20,
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  but I always know 12 13 other songs right off the bat, without
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  even having checked the list. Bob got to see me.
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  Do my list is I'm going by, you know, throughout this process.
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  I'm going to Bob as I go to the cigar shop.
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  Hey Bob you got your list you working on your list.
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  So yeah, I'm doing this, I'm doing that and you know he say
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  how about you haven't done it yet?
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  He's like the fuck. So last night I'm over there and
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  like, hey, you know, what's up? You working on your list is they
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  haven't done yet, he's like it's tomorrow.
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  All right here you go stand by and I only knew if you've
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  listened to her for a new episode before and I go okay
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  hold on I'm gonna go to Spotify to make sure I get the right
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  album versions And I'm writing it there, eating his chips and
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  salsa. Um, because it was in front of
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  me and um, yeah and 20 minutes, I got my list.
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  So not a, not the him not difficult at all.
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  Well I mean to that point, I mean Bob it's your first time
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  here. I mean in this is a band that
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  you that you know. Well so it annoyed you to CC
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  free to do that. Is that because you had a tough
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  time or or what was your process like for your 20?
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  So I didn't really have, I wouldn't say I really had a
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  tough time. I took it pretty seriously
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  because again, it's my first time you don't want to get
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  blasted on the podcast your first time on.
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  So I really wanted to make sure that I covered sonically what I
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  think they represent in other words, if you've got to put some
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  of their more country or more Jazzy sounding songs on there,
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  not just everything, everything's not.
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  Sultans of Swing. Everything is not, you know, one
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  of those other songs that clearly I think are going to get
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  four votes tonight. You know it.
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  Oh I tried to be a little bit careful about how I chose them
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  based on the soundtrack and I'm a Mark Knopfler fan.
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  Anyway, so it my head kind of is clouded by his solo stuff that
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  came later. That's obviously not included in
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  a list like this because we're just doing Dire Straits.
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  So when you, when you Whittle it down because it's all him.
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  So his solo stuff certainly doesn't sound like Dire Straits.
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  It's still him. So there's some of that in there
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  and you can't, you know, you kind of Whittle it down to two,
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  what we're working on tonight. And you could do another podcast
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  just like this of his solo stuff.
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  So that kind of clouded my thing, my, you know, list-making
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  to is man. I wish that was on there because
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  that would be a, you know, but it's not in that it's not in the
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  selections because it's the solo stuff.
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  So that gave me a little bit of trouble, but it was okay.
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  I mean, I had the first, as Fredo said, I had the first
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  probably 15 or so. Before I ever put pen to paper.
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  So, it was it, that's when it became a challenge.
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  So Randy, you usually have some sort of game play here.
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  Did I think maybe last time kind of didn't because time didn't
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  allow it. But yeah the waitresses I think
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  I think he didn't time didn't allow it.
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  How did it go? This time you had a little bit
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  more time. It was very similar to how I did
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  the cars. And how I've done most bands
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  where I haven't in took their full catalog, I just went
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  through the whole thing. Once I just listened, I didn't
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  make any notes, I just listened and I wanted to get that like,
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  muscle memory for the songs to see on second listen.
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  What would come back and what I would remember and the stuff
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  that did obviously we were the first to rise to the top.
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  And, you know, I think I think there was a lot of stuff that
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  were immediate absolute home runs.
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  But then there were a lot of things where I know I put them
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  on my list that in my non-credible list.
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  And when I listen to the song back, I'm like, why, why did I
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  put this on? Because I listened to the start
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  of it. And then towards the end, I'll
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  be like, oh, okay. I'll Really like that towards
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  the end. But to get there, I was a
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  little, like it kind of It kind of threw me off like that,
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  wasn't what the song was but that's who they are.
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  They're very much Slow Burn kind of band, their average song.
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  Total run time is probably six minutes.
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  That's just how even the hits even the hits are all like five
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  six minutes long. You know I The Sultans of Swing
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  is what like six and probably you know a radio edit for it.
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  That everybody knows is like three and a half or four.
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  So yeah, I was there was one thing that I was very very
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  impressed by in this I'm not going to give it away now but
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  one overall subject I was over the Moon by and let's just say
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  it took up a lot of a portion of what my list is.
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  So I think I think I did okay getting a little bit of
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  everything in but you know what will see you think?
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  This is a very agreeable ban but we'll see and I agree I think I
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  think A very agreeable been tied.
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  But you know, once we get into the, the next level will really
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  delve into that but um I think I accidentally did it the same way
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  you did. The first time I kind of, you
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  know, there's there's 45 that I was like immediately on my first
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  pass was like yeah, those are in.
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  And then the next pass, you know, I went with that muscle
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  memory. Oh yeah, I remember this one
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  from, from the first go around and then that put them on the
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  shortlist. I think, only 28 made It through
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  I was very selective because I didn't want some difficult
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  process to get down to the 20. So like I don't know if it was
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  just not having, you know, the tied to the band already, but I
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  found I found my cuts pretty easily.
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  Now that brings us to because there are four people here.
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  One of us is, is new to the game Fredo.
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  How many do you based on everything that has been said so
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  far? Our, how many do you think we're
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  going to get through unanimously for the final set?
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  Is this is gonna be interesting, it really is because I think
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  there's I think there's going to be five that are well for their
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  automatic and then there's going to be a group of about seven or
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  eight that could go either way. Mmm.
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  And I think we're going to have at the end of the day, I think
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  there's going to be about 17 songs.
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  I think that are going to be in the discussion.
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  So, with that being said, I'm going to, I'm going to go with
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  66. All right.
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  Nice. Nice.
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  Little swing here. Bob, what are you thinking for
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  the for the final say? I think that.
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  I think we're going to have more.
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  I think we're going to have seven or eight songs.
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  I'm going to summon say, eight songs.
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  We're going to be loved is going to be agreeable.
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  Yep, I love it. I love it, I love it.
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  Wow! Wow.
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  Yeah I love the confidence. Randy.
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  So, I was at Fredo six. I'm going to split the
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  difference between it to you and say 7.
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  All right, I'll take the are and it's a nine.
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  It's not the cars. No, no no, you don't go 9.
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  You can't go ten. Because if you get, if you win
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  it, you don't win anything. Yeah, no, come on.
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  That's like it's paid. You don't fucking know.
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  No, you don't go nine. You go eight, or you go 10.
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  I'll tell you guys this, it'll definitely bet be better than
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  the worst. The worst episode ever.
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  We got a zero so that 10 wasp wasp got 20, oh no, why are you
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  telling me that blinded Texas? Didn't get it all the way
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  through or animal Funk like Abby's?
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  Nope they got in, they just didn't get in unanimously.
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  So know who was on that panel, has me Cory and V.
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  I can't fucking believe that. So, I'm gonna go, you guys,
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  leave me, like, hardly any choices here.
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  So, what do you mean hardly any choices to still seven numbers?
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  Yes, I know that. Any good know, plenty of
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  choices, any good ones? Because 9 is too many for sure.
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  You don't go 9. You go either you go ten, right?
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  And I'm not doing nine or ten. So I'm going to go for because
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  you know it feels like there's four homers and you know
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  anything past that I think is like Fred.
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  Oh you were Pointing out like somebody's going to put one out.
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  That they don't think is unanimous and I'm like, oh yeah.
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  Whoa, awesome. I think there's like at least
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  one or two of those but sure because, you know, you know,
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  that's going to be because, you know, I'm playing the game.
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  Hmm. So you know, there's some that I
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  left off just to be, you know, a dish.
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  But I'm gonna go with four even though it feels lo I guys, I
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  love the confidence, man. Like, you know, there's this is
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  a four-person panel, you never know and one, Person is playing
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  for the first time so you never know.
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  With that, the name of the game is deprogrammed.
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  The four of us have come through the Dire Straits discography and
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  plucked out 20 songs that are now going to mesh together in an
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  attempt to create a top 10 circuit for you, in case you
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  have never pushed play on Dire Straits.
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  And this song is come up, a lot already tonight and I'm going
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  with it as my number one. It feels like it should be
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  unanimous, but I can also understand if it's not.
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  I forgot how much I love this song and I love when this
• 22:53
  happens on the show where you hear a song.
• 22:56
  And like you knew it was the band, but you didn't know.
• 23:01
  It was the band. And so you hear the song like oh
• 23:04
  yeah, this is them. And then you're listening to it
• 23:06
  in like I got lost in this song. Even though it's, it's kind of
• 23:12
  poppy. As is the only word I could
• 23:15
  describe for it. Randy, astutely said it had a he
• 23:20
  didn't say this song. Yeah, he did Bruce Springsteen,
• 23:22
  but I'm going to walk a life course.
• 23:26
  Yep. Yep.
• 23:28
  Got it. There we go.
• 23:29
  It is, are there we go? I have made a song that has
• 23:34
  Sports bloopers under. I forgot how much I loved the
• 23:38
  song though, is the is the thing in every time I hear it, it just
• 23:43
  makes me happy and yeah. And, you know, I mentioned, I
• 23:50
  could understand. So that's fancy.
• 23:51
  I could understand if we didn't have it.
• 23:55
  But I wanted to It, I wanted to come out with this first because
• 23:58
  it's like there's other songs that I knew for, you know, a
• 24:02
  fact. But just hearing hearing it, And
• 24:08
  even hearing it right now, I'm just getting I'm getting giddy.
• 24:11
  Like I just it's falling, Smiley, I'm getting very Smiley
• 24:14
  happy. So it is very happy and it does
• 24:18
  have that feeling, you know, now that I'm listening to it, it
• 24:21
  does have that feeling that you're going for for this.
• 24:24
  So like, yeah, man, had to go here.
• 24:27
  All right. All right.
• 24:28
  We got one. Yep.
• 24:30
  Fredo I'm gonna go with probably my favorite Dire Straits song.
• 24:39
  I just love this song so much. I love everything about it.
• 24:43
  I love the way it sounds. I love the feeling that it
• 24:46
  brings up with me, and I love the video, and it's off the
• 24:52
  making movies album, It's Romeo and Juliet, I have it.
• 25:00
  Got it. I do not of course you don't
• 25:03
  because you're a prick and it was going to bother you.
• 25:06
  A fucking put that song on right off the bat your asshole for the
• 25:12
  record. I was number 21, know this was,
• 25:16
  this was somebody somebody's answer on Instagram.
• 25:20
  They said this, this one was a must-have.
• 25:23
  So, exactly. And you decided it was a
• 25:25
  must-have. Let me put fucking Dean Koontz
• 25:28
  on. Yes.
• 25:30
  Did you know? All right.
• 25:33
  Geez, so hostile. All right, Bob.
• 25:38
  So I'm gonna go with one. That's a little off, the little
• 25:42
  off the radar. Maybe just because, I think it's
• 25:45
  a great song. I think it represents them.
• 25:47
  Well, I'm going to say six blade knife.
• 25:51
  L. Yep, I got it.
• 25:57
  You put six blade knife on and you didn't put fucking Romeo and
• 26:01
  Juliet. Yes, I did.
• 26:04
  And for the record also. Somebody on Facebook answered
• 26:09
  that this this was a an essential song.
• 26:13
  So ha ha. And Bob start over 3 yet.
• 26:19
  It was a three. It's because I didn't know it
• 26:21
  was a to. Is it to?
• 26:22
  That's true. Say yeah I don't think Randy had
• 26:25
  it in my head it so that was the question was Fredo, I think.
• 26:28
  Yeah. So all right Randy I have a
• 26:34
  little story with this one a couple years ago somehow.
• 26:37
  I stumbled across this project that somebody had done and what
• 26:43
  it was was a re-creation of Fantasia with rock and roll
• 26:47
  music and it's actually really really good like they were all
• 26:51
  like Disney shorts. And you know, there was music
• 26:55
  from Zeppelin, there was given a fly from Pearl Jam, there was
• 26:59
  Tom Petty song room at the top that all like put to, you know,
• 27:03
  this imagery that was just really, really well done.
• 27:07
  And one of the clips was this song and I don't know what this
• 27:11
  Disney short is. It was like a wild wild west
• 27:14
  kind of thing. And I just vividly like the I
• 27:19
  went back to this song first and I'm just like, I just want to
• 27:21
  make sure that that pops into my mind that that was the right
• 27:24
  song. It was Once Upon a Time in the
• 27:26
  West, Got it. Got it.
• 27:30
  Nope. Oh, and three very agreeable
• 27:41
  band, though. That's two threes.
• 27:46
  All right, have fun. My brackets completely blown.
• 27:48
  At this point, you're witnessing for, for person panels on your
• 27:55
  first one look. This one's really, I'm getting
• 28:01
  it out of the way. I have to, you know, I don't, I
• 28:05
  don't care about Dire Straits without this song, and, you
• 28:08
  know, it probably doesn't get up the ladder faster without this
• 28:11
  song and the fact, you know, Weird Al did a version of it.
• 28:16
  And the fact that Mark Knopfler insisted on being on it, I know
• 28:19
  I already mentioned that money for nothing.
• 28:22
  Yep. Got it.
• 28:26
  Okay. So but was that a no from you
• 28:28
  ready? Yeah, hmm.
• 28:30
  Whoa. Same kind of thing that we've
• 28:34
  talked about before. Yep.
• 28:37
  So okay. I couldn't do it.
• 28:40
  See I'll say this, I thought about the idea of, you know,
• 28:44
  everybody knows that, but I don't know that everybody knows
• 28:48
  that like, you know, everybody of a certain age.
• 28:50
  Yes, but people that listen to podcasts, especially mind tend
• 28:58
  to skew a little younger and probably don't know, Dire
• 29:01
  Straits, and probably don't know that song I Would disagree with
• 29:05
  you and I'll tell you why I've seen the numbers.
• 29:09
  What? They might not know that it's
• 29:13
  that song. But if you played a video, they
• 29:17
  know the song because it's an iconic video.
• 29:22
  I think you guys are Miss interpreting Wyatt in take the
• 29:26
  song, it's because they use a homophobic slur in it.
• 29:28
  I couldn't take it. Oh, and I'll tell you Read on
• 29:46
  that. And if you listen to the To the
• 29:52
  context that they're using it. There is another word not at the
• 29:58
  time. Her sleep.
• 30:01
  Again this is this is you know using 2023 mindset going back to
• 30:08
  1985 and saying they should have, won't they?
• 30:11
  Yeah, you know none of the n-word never should have came
• 30:14
  up. If you look at the time and you
• 30:18
  look at the context that using it, it's not it's a homophobic
• 30:22
  slur in a way of showing somebody That your Prejudice is
• 30:27
  stupid because they're sitting there and making fun of someone
• 30:36
  who's homosexual. But then they turn around and
• 30:39
  say that homosexual has his own jet airplane.
• 30:42
  He's a millionaire It's so where's the slander?
• 30:48
  This land. Is it the jealousy and the
• 30:50
  ignorance of you saying, okay, this guy is X Y or Z because you
• 30:55
  know what? That guy who's X Y or Z is
• 30:58
  everything that you want. Also say, like somehow that
• 31:03
  escaped me that, I don't know if maybe I just wasn't paying hard
• 31:08
  enough attention to the lyrics, normally that probably would
• 31:10
  throw me off but it's not the radiation.
• 31:15
  Wet it. It's not a it's not an every cut
• 31:17
  of the track, right? Okay.
• 31:19
  So all right I mean it's got three, you know, that'll be
• 31:23
  conversation for later. Want to one point quickly on
• 31:27
  that one. Before we move on, is that that
• 31:29
  was that was he was paraphrasing.
• 31:31
  Someone else interesting. Oh yeah.
• 31:35
  That's right. Because that song actually was
• 31:40
  written as he was sitting in a furniture store.
• 31:44
  I Leave. And that's, that's an actual
• 31:46
  conversation that that he overheard.
• 31:50
  He was making fun of them for having that Viewpoint, not
• 31:54
  lyric. Again, I agree with Randy's
• 31:58
  point of it doesn't make it okay.
• 32:00
  But that does help do I that that context does help.
• 32:04
  I think you're not going to have the contacts by just sitting
• 32:06
  listening to the song, you know. Yeah.
• 32:08
  Rick. Um also I wanted to make sure
• 32:11
  that Randy was aware of that. No thank you for bringing it up.
• 32:14
  No it's good to know that. I also I also can't deny that
• 32:18
  fucking guitar riff. Like the goddamn it's I love the
• 32:22
  sun, don't get me wrong. The song is Amazing.
• 32:24
  Yeah. all right, Fredo It's good worked.
• 32:35
  It would be the obvious, the other obvious one that that song
• 32:39
  from, from 1978, that just hooked me the minute I heard it.
• 32:44
  Sultans of Swing. Yep.
• 32:48
  Yep. Yep yeah is considered one of
• 32:53
  the 500 songs that shaped rock and roll?
• 32:56
  It's undeniable. What's funny this?
• 33:00
  So I put it through because I liked it and you know on my
• 33:04
  first pass and then we were listening to just the playlist
• 33:08
  like as as we were coming into the room today and this song
• 33:12
  came on and like I don't know. What it was about the atmosphere
• 33:18
  like the chat, we were having, but like it just fit perfectly
• 33:23
  and I grew to love the song even more in that moment.
• 33:30
  This is just, it's a great, it's a great Groove.
• 33:32
  It's I don't know what it was about 78 and 79 but songs like
• 33:36
  that. I said, the same thing I believe
• 33:39
  is with the Knack My Sharona. I remember distinctly where I
• 33:45
  was when I heard it the first time, Oh, you said that about?
• 33:53
  Just what I needed to and just what?
• 33:55
  Yeah, the cars just what I needed, again, something about
• 33:58
  that era that time these songs that are now considered iconic.
• 34:04
  That the minute, I heard them just dug themselves into my
• 34:06
  brain. All right, Bob. so, I'm gonna go
• 34:14
  with Listen carefully, I'm gonna go with Lady writer, you know?
• 34:25
  Yes. Couple these threes on the
• 34:29
  leftover, on. I find it curious that when I'm
• 34:37
  Amanda on the three Fredo crucifies me.
• 34:44
  Try Randy to Bob, isn't that whole Spiel was probably
• 34:48
  crucifying me enough? Yeah, well, but no, I could
• 34:51
  certify him all the time. Yeah.
• 34:53
  Bob is job is new and so, you know it's like Justin you coming
• 34:59
  to my house the first time you were guests after that fuck you
• 35:03
  oui oui. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 35:05
  The first episode, we did together was The Clash.
• 35:07
  The first thing you said to me, was at some point, I'm going to
• 35:10
  call you an idiot. The first song gets picked, I
• 35:13
  don't have it. You said, well, there you go,
• 35:14
  you're an idiot. And you're like, I'm you're in
• 35:18
  training as a guest. Look, here it is.
• 35:20
  You know what I've this is a different time.
• 35:23
  I've matured I've changed. You know, Kate it's this is
• 35:29
  years later. I mean, are you gonna again?
• 35:32
  Are you gonna hold her name to the way I Was before I was I've
• 35:35
  grown. Did your dad?
• 35:38
  Yeah, you want to sit there and judge me for what I did?
• 35:46
  I'm sorry that you can't accept the new me Fredo.
• 35:50
  Yes, you're a child. It hurts me.
• 35:54
  It hurts me. That you think that way reindeer
• 35:58
  up the fucking love the big guys So my wife asked me what songs I
• 36:07
  was putting in on my list because she had you know her dad
• 36:09
  was really into them and she grew up listening to him a
• 36:12
  little bit and she has to buy had the song and it's like,
• 36:14
  yeah, of course, why wouldn't I have it just like good?
• 36:17
  We're going to sit down watch a really important episode of The
• 36:20
  West Wing tomorrow, like, okay. And it's apparently one of
• 36:26
  televisions like highest regarded shows and I get into
• 36:31
  what the episode and stuff is all about, but you don't.
• 36:33
  Really need to know it if you know, the west wing and you know
• 36:36
  what it's about like this was a pretty epic moment in the show.
• 36:40
  He the Bartlett announces that he has Ms and then everybody's
• 36:47
  kind of in anticipation. Is he still going to be running
• 36:50
  for president on a second term. And when he's going to walk that
• 36:54
  press conference, this song comes in and boy does this just
• 36:59
  oh, it fucks you up. I think it's what I think is
• 37:02
  their best song Brothers. In arms.
• 37:08
  No, got it, I got it. Why for it?
• 37:12
  Oh, why? Yeah, curious I just, you know,
• 37:20
  I like it but it to me it's not an essential song that somebody
• 37:23
  needs to hear. Um ah dude that I would play the
• 37:30
  hook somebody into Dire Straits. Interesting.
• 37:38
  On the other side of the spectrum, I'm not this this.
• 37:42
  So we've got to through unanimously, right?
• 37:45
  We've got six into the combo. If we include the to which at
• 37:49
  this point looks like the to might get in interesting.
• 37:53
  We are an interesting round two. Yeah, it's still super early so
• 37:59
  hmm. This is, this is really shaping
• 38:03
  up to not be what we thought. Yeah, well your your four, or
• 38:08
  five, whatever it was might be looking good at this point.
• 38:11
  Well, you know, 5 was my initial thought I went with for because
• 38:14
  everybody wants six, seven, eight.
• 38:16
  So I'm going to go to the fifth song on my list.
• 38:20
  Telegraph Road of course. Absolutely.
• 38:27
  Yep. I got it.
• 38:29
  I'm glad this one. I got to be honest.
• 38:32
  That's one of the. That is one of the ones I would
• 38:34
  have thought would have been like, our fifth or something.
• 38:36
  One, that would have shocked me to hear unanimous, but we got
• 38:42
  it. Like, it just happened to me.
• 38:45
  Telegraph. Road is a good example of what I
• 38:49
  thought when it comes to. This is this thing songs like,
• 38:55
  like, like money for nothing and, you know, Me on Juliet.
• 39:01
  We're going to be those ones where someone's going to not
• 39:05
  play it. Who are Maher to get some of
• 39:09
  this other stuff, which I think we're going to start to see
• 39:12
  popping now in there because of really how iconic the whole
• 39:17
  discography is actually if you listen to it.
• 39:22
  My turn, right? Yes.
• 39:25
  Let's go with them. Let's go.
• 39:33
  What a song that to me has elements of Pink Floyd in it.
• 39:39
  It's a, what do you think you're going?
• 39:43
  Let's yeah, the Pink Floyd compare some of that it.
• 39:45
  Yeah. I like that.
• 39:46
  Yeah. I took And have it.
• 39:51
  I don't do hot. You who doesn't have it for
• 39:54
  them? Yeah, neither one of us.
• 39:57
  Yeah, it to me if it's funny because as I'm going back to
• 40:02
  listen through it to it and I'm on a become, a huge, big Floyd
• 40:09
  fan over to, I don't know, last 10 years.
• 40:13
  The elements of Floyd just especially during that 70s time.
• 40:19
  It just so obvious to me that there's definitely some some
• 40:24
  David Gilmour influence on it in Mark, Knopfler All right there.
• 40:32
  So that was Fredo. It is your turn.
• 40:35
  Bob I'm gonna go. I hate to put the song out there
• 40:42
  now but I'm going to go with so far away.
• 40:44
  Yep, yep. No.
• 40:50
  Yeah, that's it. Sixes and sevens.
• 40:55
  Yep. Yep.
• 41:03
  I must have missed something because I've already got.
• 41:09
  Yeah, this got put in the wrong place.
• 41:13
  I'm missing a song that should have three but it was listed
• 41:17
  under so far away for some reason.
• 41:21
  Is there another a song that we did?
• 41:23
  Maybe that I Sixpoint knife was 261.
• 41:28
  Sultans of Swing. Obviously 441 just happened.
• 41:33
  Whatever it was. It had me on it.
• 41:34
  So I'll have to do that as we get to the end of we'll figure
• 41:38
  that out. All right.
• 41:41
  Ready. So I kind of got this vibe from
• 41:46
  this song and especially really recent obviously couple days ago
• 41:51
  and we're recording this David Crosby passed away and listening
• 41:56
  to this song and usually I didn't get the sense that dire
• 42:00
  Straight had a lot of like harmonies and and like
• 42:03
  background Melodies and stuff like that, it's just not
• 42:05
  something they did. But in this song it felt like
• 42:09
  they brought that together and had a very warm feeling to it
• 42:13
  and I really liked it. It really Reminded me of csny
• 42:16
  water of love. What's that title?
• 42:21
  Again, water water of love. It must have been one of my last
• 42:23
  Cuts because I don't know. Nope.
• 42:28
  Oh is that an ovum Bob? Yeah, we're having either.
• 42:32
  Yeah, yikes. There's the first we've cut
• 42:37
  first talk later. Yeah, but we also have covered a
• 42:40
  lot of ground before getting there and yeah, four rounds.
• 42:43
  So like I mean, it just because we're not getting the unanimous
• 42:47
  has. It feels like we're not playing
• 42:49
  well, but we are doing really fucking well gentlemen.
• 42:57
  I got to figure out which fill a lot of songs out there that can
• 43:00
  get and get all four will have like one or two more sprouts.
• 43:07
  That's the one. It was, it was brothers in arms
• 43:09
  and Fredo, was the one that was out on that.
• 43:11
  There it is. How did it get up to so far
• 43:15
  away? I don't know, but back to me.
• 43:25
  Do I have anything that feels right.
• 43:28
  It feels right. Yeah you know what?
• 43:32
  I'm gonna go here towards the top of my lip list setting me
• 43:35
  up. Yeah, go he's all by himself.
• 43:45
  No, Randy said he hadn't. Oh, I didn't know.
• 43:48
  Oh stop putting words in my mouth.
• 43:51
  I've apologized. I apologize.
• 43:53
  Slander it is. It is, and that's why I
• 43:57
  apologize. Okay, so so the two of you have
• 44:02
  really started a downward spiral here.
• 44:04
  Yeah, I'm good, which I plan to fucking put the brush slam the
• 44:08
  brakes on it and I'm going to slam it with this song.
• 44:12
  A skate away. Yes.
• 44:17
  Nope. Nope, I got another one.
• 44:21
  There was between two songs for me on that and I went.
• 44:25
  Wow. So it's only got two.
• 44:27
  Yep, the two. Holy shit.
• 44:32
  Just saying for person panel. This is this, this is what you
• 44:35
  expect from it and we for the record, we have a discussion
• 44:39
  already. So we've got three through
• 44:42
  unanimously, we've got nine in the combo.
• 44:45
  Those twos are looking. Pretty iffy.
• 44:47
  So we'll see when we went when we come back around.
• 44:51
  All right, Bob? Okay, so since we did skate
• 44:55
  away, I'm going to do the song that I put in in place of it
• 44:58
  because I just think it's just think it's got to be on this
• 45:03
  list and I'm going to say calling Elvis.
• 45:07
  I got it. I was like 21 for me shit.
• 45:10
  I got it, I got it. So it's 3.
• 45:15
  No, I only left it off because I just don't like Elvis has a
• 45:18
  whole thing with me. This isn't thing with me but it
• 45:22
  was. Okay.
• 45:23
  So I'm with you. I'm with you ran that Randy, and
• 45:29
  you don't like them so much that you won't include.
• 45:33
  It's not as much as Elvis Elvis culture.
• 45:36
  I had a friend in college, whose father was an Elvis impersonator
• 45:41
  and like, City or Vegas or something like that.
• 45:44
  And he came to pick him up at school.
• 45:47
  Wearing the, the start jacket and had the hair and the
• 45:50
  sunglasses. I'm just like this is, I'm
• 45:52
  embarrassed for you. I'm sorry the huh school.
• 45:58
  I'm gonna pick up my son, so yeah, you know, I could
• 46:06
  understand that, you know, Lisa Marie Presley died this past.
• 46:09
  Yep. Oh my God, too many people were
• 46:11
  talking. About her.
• 46:13
  And and I saw her in concert. I had worked a show which had
• 46:19
  played in place called The Norva.
• 46:21
  And I remember, And I instantly felt so bad for her because
• 46:28
  there was a guy there dressed as Elvis.
• 46:31
  Hmm. And it wasn't, you know, cool
• 46:34
  50s looking almost. It was 70s bloated at a Vegas
• 46:37
  Elvis. Hmm.
• 46:38
  And and I just thought and I couldn't get it out of my head
• 46:44
  that this poor girl wherever she goes.
• 46:47
  She's got to see that. Yep.
• 46:50
  Yep. All right.
• 46:53
  All right, let's take a break. Oh, that gotta pee.
• 46:56
  It's that time, right? You know it's and Bob will tell
• 46:59
  you when I'm with you when I'm at the shop.
• 47:01
  I get pissed about six times and I'm not saying I mean, pretty
• 47:05
  already said he went pee so it's not like, you know, it's just
• 47:07
  it's just going to be a weird jump cut.
• 47:09
  So as we jump back in, I think it was supposed to be my turn.
• 47:15
  Now I'm up. Europe.
• 47:18
  Bob to call ya'll this. Right.
• 47:19
  Yeah. Oh okay.
• 47:21
  Yes, Randy because I was trying to wait for Randy to go and then
• 47:27
  to go to the bathroom but you were too busy talking about
• 47:31
  Elvis to let Randy. All right?
• 47:35
  Randy man, I feel. I feel pretty bad like three of
• 47:40
  these threes. I've been the one left out on
• 47:43
  and you know I don't know what left in this list.
• 47:48
  I can get to be four, but I want to use this one because I think
• 47:52
  it has a really good chance and also So I absolutely love this
• 47:56
  album. If anything, for the fact that
• 47:58
  it was like, one whole soundtrack more than it was the
• 48:02
  songs, it felt like there was a story going throughout all these
• 48:05
  songs and, you know, there might be a spoiler alert.
• 48:08
  I might have a lot from this record but let's go with Private
• 48:11
  Investigations. Yep.
• 48:16
  I don't know. I do not know, I'm out.
• 48:22
  I'm out on that one, me too. Wow, you and Lindsey to clinging
• 48:27
  to life, but barely. This is got two or three to
• 48:30
  poop. For the record.
• 48:33
  That is also one that came up on on the Facebook thread.
• 48:36
  So, All right. let me see, how about How about follow me home?
• 48:56
  No, nope, nope. Holy shit, another miss, another
• 49:03
  Miss fuck is happening. I can't.
• 49:09
  Okay. It's my turn right?
• 49:10
  Yeah. Just trying to get this think
• 49:14
  this is an interesting kind of Crossroads that we're at right
• 49:17
  now because I think this shows the diversity and the tone of
• 49:19
  this pan. Absolutely her.
• 49:21
  Yeah. It you know, in the moment it
• 49:23
  sucks because you want you want to hit the home runs you want
• 49:27
  you want to get the, you want to get the unanimous, has you want
• 49:30
  to get those threes, but it to your point, but like this shows,
• 49:37
  exactly. How much here?
• 49:40
  What is it? Like 80 songs?
• 49:42
  Not even 51. 52, 51 songs. And we were able to find these
• 49:50
  different Corners in in a four-person panel.
• 49:54
  So, all right, Fredo? Yeah.
• 49:57
  I'm gonna disagree how to say it.
• 49:58
  It just shows that you guys are stupid.
• 50:01
  I'm on it. We are.
• 50:06
  I'm gonna say this song, I guess.
• 50:08
  I think I'm it was lost in my list so I don't know if this was
• 50:11
  said water of Love. Yeah, that was said it was said,
• 50:16
  dude. I said it okay cuz it's it was
• 50:19
  stuck in my list. What does that do for for us?
• 50:22
  Okay, it gets it out of the pile.
• 50:24
  Yeah, takes its time to undo it too.
• 50:26
  Okay, so you go. You're welcome, do you want to
• 50:29
  act play one that hasn't been played?
• 50:31
  Yeah, yeah, of course I'm gonna do that.
• 50:33
  Don't be ridiculous. Mama, I'm gonna do a song and
• 50:39
  Hey, it was remade by Mary Chapin Carpenter.
• 50:44
  I believe is the one who we made it and it's all for their on
• 50:49
  every street album. It's called The Bug.
• 50:52
  I have no. I don't have it and I don't get
• 51:04
  the same response. These guys are dumb.
• 51:11
  Welcome, Bob, welcome to the show.
• 51:14
  I'm not take that, right? Because I know in two minutes
• 51:16
  you're gonna call me dumb against oh oh.
• 51:19
  But for right now. Well, now.
• 51:23
  Yeah, don't All right, Bob, it's your turn. all right, so this is
• 51:34
  an interesting track and I think think I went with it because
• 51:40
  it's almost like if a and song or if a blues band, tried to do
• 51:45
  a country song and it shows marks progression, I think in
• 51:50
  his writing style is playing style his musical preferences.
• 51:54
  I'm going to say Wild West End. Yes.
• 52:00
  No. Which one Wild Wild West End?
• 52:04
  No. Really too.
• 52:08
  Yeah, mmm. Mmm at 2:30.
• 52:11
  But I mean considering some of the like yeah, yes I do hands up
• 52:18
  in the air. I've no idea if we'll even get
• 52:22
  another one for Justin here. Yeah.
• 52:23
  I know like I don't know what's out there to that.
• 52:27
  Could get. Oh that's still I still got at
• 52:31
  least 3 more that for that I think could make it all the way
• 52:35
  through. I guess we'll see you at seven
• 52:37
  left on my list. So hopefully it's there.
• 52:40
  All right, Randy. What do I get if I have to go
• 52:45
  with the one that I think is going to be the best chance?
• 52:49
  I guess. It's tunnel love.
• 52:51
  Yep. Me too.
• 52:58
  There it is. There It Is song.
• 53:02
  That's one of the ones that I thought would be a 4.
• 53:07
  Yeah. Well, you were right?
• 53:08
  Yeah. Since the tone for kind of.
• 53:15
  I haven't had that Bob was kind of, I think he is audio crapped
• 53:20
  out of it. I was gonna say tunnel of the
• 53:25
  three-headed monster tunnel tunnel of Romeo and Juliet and
• 53:28
  skate away. All feel like it's part of some
• 53:30
  Trilogy or something. Matter of fact, I'll feel
• 53:35
  connected. I'm trying to remember if that
• 53:40
  that side that side one, Um, of that of that album would have to
• 53:47
  be if it's track will get make yeah.
• 53:49
  Well they well the first three that were already mentioned
• 54:03
  has to be. Probably one of the best sides
• 54:08
  of an album. That's tunnel loves the first
• 54:11
  track. Yep.
• 54:15
  All right, back around to me. Alright, alright.
• 54:24
  I keep skipping past this one and I get feeling that there's
• 54:27
  probably a reason for that expresso love.
• 54:31
  Got it. It's a rare.
• 54:39
  Justin and Fredo to all right. I know right Fredo right.
• 54:46
  No, I didn't see your dumb that I put on that.
• 54:53
  I was kind of hoping but you know what, end up in the
• 54:56
  discussion. And obviously it's not, I don't
• 54:59
  think. Um, so give me a second here on
• 55:04
  my, I got to check something out. it's this next song, which
• 55:08
  I'm planning on saying, Might be part of that perfect size.
• 55:20
  Oh no, it's Faso. Love was part of that perfect
• 55:22
  side. There we go of.
• 55:24
  Yeah. And that's actually the one that
• 55:27
  I was going to use. All right, so let's go with the
• 55:32
  fuck me. Let's go with a mom Portobello.
• 55:37
  Bella know. So, nope.
• 55:41
  Holy shit, finds the trashcan mushrooms, finds the trash can
• 55:51
  It gets the line through it. All right, Bob, I'm trying to
• 56:05
  stay out of it. oh, I'm gonna throw You got bomb, communique.
• 56:23
  Song, communique. Hmm, I don't have it.
• 56:27
  No me neither. Wow, there it is.
• 56:33
  Your first denied did it feel now that you that you felt total
• 56:41
  rejection and failure? Keep in mind that I already know
• 56:45
  you personally Fredo. I feel that way a lot like today
• 56:52
  is just a roast afraid of. All right, Randy.
• 57:03
  I'm like six or seven left. I'm going to keep going with
• 57:06
  love over gold that record. I'm gonna say, love over gold.
• 57:10
  Nope. Nope, Love over gold.
• 57:15
  I've got it. Okay, to it's not going anywhere
• 57:19
  but it's a great tool. It is I've got three songs left.
• 57:25
  Oh look at you. Okay.
• 57:29
  So hopefully we hit on all three.
• 57:32
  Yeah, maybe we'll do one more round and then well Fredo's only
• 57:37
  got three left so maybe we just dump out on this round because
• 57:40
  we're not. We're not exactly hot here.
• 57:42
  Gents so no. All right so I'll start at the
• 57:46
  top of my list. I didn't lead with this because
• 57:50
  I don't feel this way about this band.
• 57:52
  I thought it was it's a great introduction.
• 57:55
  It was a good good to Great enough song to make my List.
• 57:59
  But it wasn't, it wasn't the lead off but down to the
• 58:02
  waterline. Yes.
• 58:09
  I'm out on now. Do you know what?
• 58:12
  A 3 on the duck pounds, really good?
• 58:14
  Yeah, absolutely absolutely southbound again.
• 58:25
  Southbound again and again. No.
• 58:28
  Okay. So it's a two.
• 58:30
  All right, next single-handed sailor.
• 58:34
  Yes, I almost took that. Nope.
• 58:43
  All right. Next to solve, one more shot for
• 58:48
  a unanimous here. Solid Rock.
• 58:52
  Nope. No, nope.
• 59:01
  All right, industrial disease. Yes, yes.
• 59:09
  My mom was that he got it. All right.
• 59:14
  It's not the walk off that we've had in the past but hey, we got
• 59:18
  something. That ain't bad and nobody is
• 59:22
  going to have the final say. No.
• 59:25
  Ha ha ha. Yes, There Will Be Blood.
• 59:32
  Three more to put out there to see if I can find any all's it.
• 59:36
  Never never rains. Yes.
• 59:42
  I know you are, but the other guys are just letting you know.
• 59:45
  It never rains is me and Randy Wright and one world Dell.
• 1:00:00
  All right. Alright, and then, last but not
• 1:00:07
  least, heavy Fuel, and I'm out 3.
• 1:00:13
  All right, so I'm for me. All right.
• 1:00:18
  And just Bob. Yep.
• 1:00:19
  Well, so, just for fun then Bob, because there's nobody left for
• 1:00:23
  you to match, you want to dump out, whatever you got left.
• 1:00:27
  I've got angel of Mercy that one, the orchestration or soul
• 1:00:32
  in that is exemplary, I think that's a really good track, all
• 1:00:36
  right? So that's what that that one.
• 1:00:40
  Yeah it's all I wanted to split. This is just for fun to get them
• 1:00:43
  out there. Okay.
• 1:00:46
  And I have every street That was kind of a late cut, that was one
• 1:00:53
  of the ones I was saying before that.
• 1:00:55
  Had a really, really good finish but the start lost me on like
• 1:01:00
  second or third. Listen.
• 1:01:01
  Don't you know it? How would, you know?
• 1:01:03
  It has a good finish if you got lost at the start because when
• 1:01:07
  it got to that point I usually a lot of what I'm listening is
• 1:01:11
  what I'm doing dishes, so I'm focusing and yeah, I'm listening
• 1:01:16
  to the song but then that part that It kind of rubs up at the
• 1:01:19
  end, I noticed that I'm like, oh, that's why I took this song
• 1:01:23
  that's the reason, but I know that everything you built to
• 1:01:30
  that. So that's why.
• 1:01:33
  All right. So is that is that everything
• 1:01:36
  Bob? That's all I had.
• 1:01:41
  All right. So, what did that bring us up to
• 1:01:44
  five? Yep, five should have stuck with
• 1:01:46
  MI5, Sultans of Swing tunnel of Telegraph Road industrial
• 1:01:50
  disease. Walk of Life are in.
• 1:01:53
  And what do we got here? 21 that we gotta trim down.
• 1:01:59
  I think these 2's, I think it's safe to say these twos are out.
• 1:02:02
  Yeah, I'm not getting even look at them.
• 1:02:04
  Just throw them out because really sorry Wild West End.
• 1:02:09
  The end. Fuck.
• 1:02:11
  Yeah. Well, you know what?
• 1:02:13
  Yes. Kate away should be in and I
• 1:02:16
  agree with that one. Dude.
• 1:02:17
  That's been expresso life investigations as a good.
• 1:02:21
  Yeah. What do you think you're going?
• 1:02:22
  Should be good. Yeah, but uh, but they're not,
• 1:02:28
  it's I can't believe. I seriously can't believe some
• 1:02:31
  of the songs that are not even in the discussion.
• 1:02:35
  It, it was bound to happen, one of these days.
• 1:02:40
  All right, so that means let's see, one, two, three, four,
• 1:02:45
  five, six, seven, eight, nine, that we need to trim down to
• 1:02:49
  five. All right, so the ones with
• 1:02:51
  threes down to the waterline Once Upon a Time, in the West
• 1:02:54
  lady, writer Romeo and Juliet, so far away money for nothing
• 1:02:58
  Brothers in Arms, calling Elvis and heavy fuel.
• 1:03:04
  Let's real quick right off the bat.
• 1:03:07
  Let's start the discussion with, with, with the one song that I
• 1:03:12
  personally think it needs to be there and if you want to put the
• 1:03:14
  single edit that, do it money for nothing.
• 1:03:18
  I mean, that's that's a signature song that that's
• 1:03:21
  their. That's their biggest.
• 1:03:22
  Hit, it one, two or three Grammys.
• 1:03:26
  It's the reason that brother-in-arms is their biggest
• 1:03:29
  selling album. And yeah, I Get the homophobic
• 1:03:36
  slur. But again, this is a song back
• 1:03:39
  from 85, man, and I'm just kind of tired of people judging
• 1:03:44
  things from the past, on today's standards.
• 1:03:46
  I also would say that if we got eight like seven or eight
• 1:03:52
  through unanimously, I feel like that makes a case out of it.
• 1:03:56
  An easy dump. Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  I think we could have dumped it all from him.
• 1:03:59
  I think the fact that there's, there's only five, I think it
• 1:04:02
  keeps it very much alive. It's hard.
• 1:04:05
  It is is really hard. And this isn't to say the reason
• 1:04:08
  is invalid that you didn't have it.
• 1:04:11
  Randy. Because I think that's a, it's a
• 1:04:13
  perfectly valid reason but I also think it is so hard to
• 1:04:18
  ignore that fucking R. If I can, I'm hearing the Riff
• 1:04:24
  in my head now and you know, it sucks to have that Sully it and
• 1:04:31
  if you're really, really, really putting your foot down after
• 1:04:35
  hearing. in what we've said, understandable but It has to
• 1:04:40
  very much be in this conversation at this point,
• 1:04:44
  okay? I don't disagree.
• 1:04:45
  I don't agree. I don't think that I explained
• 1:04:51
  how much I actually really love the song and I know it came off
• 1:04:55
  as like, nope, can't do it. Sorry.
• 1:04:56
  Move on. Well, write it like, this is
• 1:05:00
  very similar to Justin. I saw this video and I'm like,
• 1:05:04
  what the hell is this? I probably saw this video for
• 1:05:07
  the first time in like 1994. 1995 E5 or something that makes
• 1:05:12
  sense to me. If you look at talking about the
• 1:05:14
  video Back Then, Mmm. Yeah, right.
• 1:05:17
  Because it feels like it's bright colors.
• 1:05:19
  It's like, you know, you even know in 1994.
• 1:05:22
  It's like, okay, it's a little dated but it's still cool
• 1:05:26
  because they don't use that kind of Animation style anymore like
• 1:05:31
  they weren't really using a whole lot of computer Graphics
• 1:05:34
  just yet so whenever you did get to see it, it was cool.
• 1:05:38
  And yeah, I Every time I had an opportunity to listen to it on
• 1:05:42
  this list I did because I can't that Hook is so infatuating like
• 1:05:49
  it's it's an incredible song it had its and you know I don't
• 1:05:56
  think that if I didn't have a full 20 and I struggled I would
• 1:06:01
  put it on the list but if we can seriously find a radio edit for
• 1:06:08
  Spotify. Amen.
• 1:06:11
  Okay sure that I'm sure there is.
• 1:06:14
  I'm sure if you look at the greatest hits which it's
• 1:06:17
  definitely going to be on, um, And live.
• 1:06:21
  I know, one of the live versions, he changes the, the
• 1:06:24
  song, the word, from the f word to, he uses the word Queenie.
• 1:06:30
  Look, there's a sun god, it right here.
• 1:06:32
  Well, kind of okay, if I'm not mistaken, the greatest hits
• 1:06:37
  album of theirs that I have which one it is right now but
• 1:06:41
  the greatest hits there, it's cut.
• 1:06:44
  I think the answer thrown on from the greatest hit.
• 1:06:46
  Yeah, dude we haven't. All right.
• 1:06:53
  So let's put that through as number six.
• 1:06:58
  Alright. Now let's put some heat on Bob
• 1:07:00
  because he's the new guy is there is there one of these
• 1:07:03
  threes that that you're looking at and you can take this either
• 1:07:07
  way like dependent, you know, the you put the appropriate
• 1:07:12
  amount of heat on you if there's one that you feel like could go
• 1:07:16
  or you can take the easy route and go one that you feel like
• 1:07:20
  should have been in from jump. Yeah, there's definitely two
• 1:07:26
  different directions to go there.
• 1:07:27
  I think that the list has to include so far away.
• 1:07:30
  That's a 3 was one of my submissions.
• 1:07:34
  I think that that is one of there was one of their songs
• 1:07:36
  that was a hit and I think it's got to be there.
• 1:07:40
  What kind of supplements for me? Yeah, I was the odd man out
• 1:07:42
  there. Let's, let's grab that one.
• 1:07:46
  All right. And that takes us to seven.
• 1:07:54
  Same. What's wrong with that?
• 1:07:55
  That was so far away. Some money or money, for
• 1:07:59
  nothing. And so far away, takes us up to
• 1:08:01
  seven. Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  Three more left here? Yep.
• 1:08:06
  All right, guys, I don't care what you do with the last song,
• 1:08:10
  but I really want these two in Brothers in Arms has to go in.
• 1:08:15
  No doubt about it has to go in and I would love to get Once
• 1:08:18
  Upon a Time in the Westin. All right, so let's let's tackle
• 1:08:24
  Brothers in the arms first, that would Fredo was out on that.
• 1:08:28
  I say again I was the one. I was the one that was out on
• 1:08:31
  that. Yeah I'm brothers-in-arms.
• 1:08:33
  Here's here's what and Bob. Remember I told you that we play
• 1:08:36
  the game. Here's here's me playing the
• 1:08:38
  game. I'll give you Brothers, I'll
• 1:08:41
  give you Brothers in Arms if I get Romeo and Juliet and Romeo
• 1:08:47
  Romeo and Juliet will be the one that that's my hill to die on.
• 1:08:51
  Okay well see now I'm playing kind of you know I know you
• 1:08:56
  played money for nothing there too.
• 1:08:58
  So I'm kind of playing Tit for Tat here.
• 1:09:01
  I would love to get Once Upon a Time in the West as well against
• 1:09:05
  calling Elvis Lady Rider down to the waterline heavy fuel.
• 1:09:09
  I think it has the best shot. I'm fine.
• 1:09:15
  I kind of like the calling Elvis especially because we got
• 1:09:18
  nothing from that late in in the catalog.
• 1:09:27
  See, we have anything off of communicated though?
• 1:09:30
  Yeah, I think we do know we don't No, we don't, we don't
• 1:09:37
  know. So if representation matters, do
• 1:09:43
  you take something from communicate or do you take
• 1:09:45
  something from on every street? Do we cut something?
• 1:09:48
  That's already in? What Bob what do you think?
• 1:09:52
  Just let you know. It's put the pressure on the new
• 1:09:54
  guy. Mmm, no, I think if we're doing
• 1:09:56
  this, if we're doing this as we say, we're doing it, then it
• 1:09:58
  shouldn't matter. But albums, they come from in
• 1:10:01
  the selection? I don't think that the album
• 1:10:03
  matters at all. Other than, if one didn't make
• 1:10:06
  it one, didn't make it. There we go.
• 1:10:08
  I'm definitely, I'm in the can amp of I'm in the camp of Romeo
• 1:10:11
  and Juliet and both being in there.
• 1:10:14
  All right, so let's let's go ahead and solidify Romeo and
• 1:10:17
  Juliet brothers-in-arms that's 8 and 9.
• 1:10:19
  So now we're talking ten. So tell me the only thing back
• 1:10:26
  to the album thing that I'll say about on every street is that it
• 1:10:30
  was not critically received very well at all and it kind of led
• 1:10:34
  to the downfall of the band. I know maybe it doesn't matter
• 1:10:38
  in the end because I did look at some setlist that they were
• 1:10:41
  doing on their final tour which is unfortunately a huge bust.
• 1:10:45
  Like they didn't make a whole lot of money on it.
• 1:10:47
  They didn't get the crowd reaction that they should have
• 1:10:50
  gotten, but, you know, No, I it's all dependent on songs.
• 1:10:56
  I think that once Upon a Time in the West just has that like that
• 1:11:00
  that like classical western guitar note that comes in to
• 1:11:04
  begin that song. That gets you ready for
• 1:11:07
  something that like that's a showdown, that's a shootout
• 1:11:10
  that's coming. That is really hard to replicate
• 1:11:14
  in. Saw a like they do a really good
• 1:11:16
  job of building a story building it really good Vision visual
• 1:11:20
  within a song. I see more of that. that visual
• 1:11:24
  aspect and it's an important aspect of my eyes and Once Upon
• 1:11:27
  a Time in the West than calling, all this also say this on every
• 1:11:33
  street easily my least favorite of their records.
• 1:11:36
  Say I'm going through it. I the two that are remaining are
• 1:11:39
  the two that I had from that record and they both got threes.
• 1:11:43
  So, you know, take that, you know.
• 1:11:45
  However, but I think there is something to what Randy's
• 1:11:53
  saying, like some of these don't have that visual aspect or at
• 1:11:57
  least in the same way where you know money for nothing has a
• 1:12:02
  visual aspect but it's it's the video that they did that that it
• 1:12:05
  makes me think of Walk of Life. Just kind of makes me happy.
• 1:12:11
  Like, it doesn't really set a scene for me, the way.
• 1:12:16
  And again, I didn't have Once Upon a Time in the West, but I
• 1:12:19
  guess do you have do either of you Fredo or Bob have a song,
• 1:12:23
  you would put up against Once Upon a Time in the West or our
• 1:12:27
  me and Randy kind of bloviating here.
• 1:12:30
  Let's, what are the three again. All right, so the most ones that
• 1:12:34
  are still alive down to the waterline, Once Upon a Time, in
• 1:12:36
  the West lady, writer calling Elvis, heavy fuel, Go ahead,
• 1:12:42
  Bob. Yeah.
• 1:12:47
  Yeah, I like calling you all this a lot.
• 1:12:52
  But once upon line into the West, I think I voted for that
• 1:12:55
  song. So Those are both threes calling
• 1:12:59
  Elvis is one that I submitted that clearly to me is one that
• 1:13:04
  needs to make the final. Robert Randall.
• 1:13:11
  I would stand on calling Elvis over once putana Once Upon a
• 1:13:14
  Time. In the West who, why do we have
• 1:13:17
  to fight here? Okay.
• 1:13:20
  Why that's not lyrically? Not lyrically because I think
• 1:13:24
  that it's a valid point. I'm not an Elvis fan either.
• 1:13:27
  I know that breaks your heart Fredo song.
• 1:13:33
  Sonically and feel wise. I think it's got to be there
• 1:13:37
  because showcases their musicality Injured.
• 1:13:41
  All right. So way in 480.
• 1:13:43
  Do you have a different song or do you want to weigh in on one
• 1:13:45
  of these two i'm-i'm-i'm? I'll tell you.
• 1:13:48
  One of the reasons that I'm stuck is that if you look at the
• 1:13:52
  history of Dire Straits, I'm our people love to say that that
• 1:13:58
  bans Mark Mark Knopfler and in a lot of ways, they're right.
• 1:14:05
  I'm uh, you know, that's the first name that everybody
• 1:14:08
  thinks. That's a matter of fact.
• 1:14:09
  That's probably the only Name that that people think of it
• 1:14:14
  that's because it throughout the history of the band.
• 1:14:18
  There's only two people who were steady in that band and his
• 1:14:21
  brother Mark Knopfler and and John knicely illsley are the
• 1:14:27
  only two who were in the band the whole time.
• 1:14:31
  Everybody else including his brother came and went Huh.
• 1:14:39
  Brother David was out relatively early.
• 1:14:42
  Well yeah I think it was after making movies, right?
• 1:14:45
  But when you when you know when you're saying that At that last
• 1:14:52
  album, on every street was like the least Dire Straits to me.
• 1:15:01
  That just goes to show how important the rest of the band
• 1:15:05
  was and it wasn't just Mark Knopfler.
• 1:15:08
  Hmm. Whoo-hoo kind of You know, help
• 1:15:14
  set the table for the band. Um, and if the band evolves, you
• 1:15:20
  know, as we talked about bands evolving, their sound the longer
• 1:15:23
  they stay together. Then the band didn't really
• 1:15:29
  evolve so much as how much is Mark Knopfler started his solo
• 1:15:36
  career. You know or cemented his solo
• 1:15:41
  career. I can't remember if you put out
• 1:15:42
  a solo album before that because the band took a break in, 88
• 1:15:47
  came back in, 90 them from 90, to 95 before they broke up
• 1:15:52
  permanently, they had a break from like what was it 85 to 89?
• 1:15:58
  I think 80 to 80 88 to 90 was 88 to 90.
• 1:16:02
  Yeah, I thought, I thought was like, oh, you know what?
• 1:16:05
  It's it was in between love over gold and And brothers in arms
• 1:16:09
  that there was a six-year delay, which I'm gonna guess Knopfler,
• 1:16:12
  probably wrote solo stuff in that time.
• 1:16:14
  Yeah, I don't know if you were at least a solo album but the
• 1:16:20
  point being that if we're going to say this is how Dire Straits
• 1:16:30
  evolved in a band that has a finite catalog. and we should
• 1:16:39
  include something from that last album which to me would be
• 1:16:45
  calling Elvis if we get, if we're not going to say that, Is
• 1:16:50
  band evolved. Then we can dump that one out of
• 1:16:54
  the conversation, so I'm going to leave that to you guys.
• 1:16:58
  It's, do you consider that the first Solo or part of Mark,
• 1:17:03
  knopfler's solo, life, or do we call that part of Dire Straits?
• 1:17:08
  Knowing that only him and John and John illsley were the only
• 1:17:18
  two members throughout the entire life span of Dire
• 1:17:21
  Straits. Haines.
• 1:17:26
  It's like it's impossible to say that that was so low because
• 1:17:30
  obviously it's not but I get what you're saying where you
• 1:17:35
  know the full band counts as the full band and and yeah they
• 1:17:38
  didn't all make it the full way through.
• 1:17:43
  I think ultimately On every street just felt the album as a
• 1:17:50
  whole just felt a little empty to me.
• 1:17:53
  It felt like yeah musically they I feel like they did reach their
• 1:17:59
  Peak Evolution with Brothers in Arms you did or did not did like
• 1:18:08
  that right there. That album is where okay from
• 1:18:12
  from the album before that to that album.
• 1:18:14
  That's where the change happened.
• 1:18:15
  There was some Change within. But here's the thing in my eyes,
• 1:18:21
  at least when you evolve between those two records, like, I don't
• 1:18:27
  think it evolved in a good way because it led to the spiraling
• 1:18:32
  effect that broke up the band and they like David never had
• 1:18:35
  even a reunions together. So I would be more apt to say,
• 1:18:40
  put something in from early which is like the heart of the
• 1:18:43
  band and yeah, not and Like that.
• 1:18:48
  Yes. Comes from some bias because I
• 1:18:49
  really want this song in but I think that is another thing that
• 1:18:53
  should be considered. You're the one who had a hard
• 1:19:00
  time separating not for solo stuff from Dire Straits and
• 1:19:05
  believing that it should be part of this whole exercise.
• 1:19:10
  What do you think about that album in particular on every
• 1:19:14
  street and and how it compares to Dyers?
• 1:19:17
  Is it that logical Bridge from Dire Straits to knopfler's solo?
• 1:19:23
  Little bit because calling Elvis really sounds like enough floor.
• 1:19:26
  Solo song really does to me. That's one of the reasons that I
• 1:19:30
  like it so much for inclusion in a list like this because it is a
• 1:19:35
  taste of something else. You know what I mean?
• 1:19:37
  The taste of more than just Dire Straits and I agree Brothers in
• 1:19:41
  Arms is the album that kind of was there Pinnacle.
• 1:19:45
  If you look at the list, we have, I think we've got We have
• 1:19:48
  four songs three songs off of that one album for innocent
• 1:19:53
  before, that's pretty telling almost half the list so far.
• 1:19:56
  Is from that one album. Yeah, so so based on that, I
• 1:20:05
  would say, well, I'm sorry. Justin, what do you think?
• 1:20:09
  So, honestly, honestly, I don't have a dog in this fight other
• 1:20:14
  than what I've already said, basically.
• 1:20:18
  On every street didn't do it for me.
• 1:20:20
  Whereas I was completely engaged all the way up until on every
• 1:20:25
  street. I liked on every street.
• 1:20:27
  I don't mean this to sound like I'm dumping all over it.
• 1:20:30
  I'm not. But there was rain to use the
• 1:20:33
  word empty. Like I think that's empty not
• 1:20:39
  necessarily Hollow but but in that that realm of it didn't, it
• 1:20:45
  didn't do what the rest of the Scarfie did for me.
• 1:20:49
  So and I guess the question really I mean because I know we
• 1:20:54
  talked about album representation doesn't matter
• 1:20:56
  but like if we do this list with nothing off of communique is
• 1:21:01
  that harsher than doing this list without something off of on
• 1:21:06
  every street. Maybe probably.
• 1:21:12
  I might have to, I might have to agree with you there.
• 1:21:21
  Communicate basically, right in the heart in the heart of it.
• 1:21:24
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:21:29
  What do you think? Bob did we lose?
• 1:21:33
  You know, I think I would be skipping communique.
• 1:21:42
  Mmm. You would get get the track off
• 1:21:47
  of to get that one track for the reasons that I said before about
• 1:21:51
  about the difference between that and just every other Dire
• 1:21:53
  Straits track. Here's another question, we're
• 1:21:59
  in this is a Dire Straits. Deprogrammed, do we care about
• 1:22:03
  Marcos knobbler? Soul solo career.
• 1:22:07
  Like we got what Mark Knopfler is known for what is, you know,
• 1:22:13
  his big. You know, if you want to say his
• 1:22:16
  is his best work of art is we have it right here, like I
• 1:22:21
  don't, you know, and I'm sure, you know, this comes from.
• 1:22:26
  You know, somebody that hasn't listened to a solo stuff.
• 1:22:28
  I'm sure that he has, he's a fantastic songwriter lyricist
• 1:22:34
  All the Above. So I'm sure he has Music that
• 1:22:37
  happened after Dire Straits. That's fantastic.
• 1:22:40
  But this is really his Pinnacle. Anyway, is the first five
• 1:22:44
  records. Yeah, you're not wrong about
• 1:22:51
  that. I mean, popularity was yes,
• 1:22:53
  although hear him tell it he's doing better now because he
• 1:22:56
  never wanted to be a rock. That's what kind of he was
• 1:23:00
  becoming up until that last album.
• 1:23:02
  Hmm. Oh, I guess, I guess your, I
• 1:23:05
  can't argue your point on that think you're right on that.
• 1:23:09
  My only caveat, is that one song?
• 1:23:12
  So, let me pivot this, if does this change it, because it
• 1:23:18
  sounds like he has Pretty decent single discography or solo
• 1:23:24
  discography. If there was to be a Mark
• 1:23:27
  Knopfler, Episode of D program. Does that change your answer?
• 1:23:38
  No, not really because I think that's that one track as that
• 1:23:42
  much value because of the forget about the lyrics.
• 1:23:47
  Forget about the Elvis reference, forget about all
• 1:23:49
  that. A point, with that song is only
• 1:23:52
  sonically Well, let's talk about it, but I think that kind of, we
• 1:23:57
  started with that point, and then kind of got lost along the
• 1:24:01
  way and got more into the technicalities of all that.
• 1:24:05
  But, you know, I feel like the songs are completely different
• 1:24:10
  in construction and assembly meant.
• 1:24:14
  But you know, II do want to give this list and I think about this
• 1:24:19
  with every list to somebody that the songs are going to just hit
• 1:24:22
  him right in the face right away.
• 1:24:24
  And either either you're gonna know them and you're going to
• 1:24:28
  like them or you're going to hear it and you're gonna be
• 1:24:30
  like, okay, that's recognizable. I always want to give them
• 1:24:33
  something recognizable and I feel like calling all this
• 1:24:38
  starts off kind of like it gets its Groove a little bit and kind
• 1:24:43
  of feels in the courses and stuff like that and then kind of
• 1:24:46
  moves, but it takes a little while to get there.
• 1:24:48
  This is one. Adjusting, this is like your big
• 1:24:51
  thing. Get me to it.
• 1:24:53
  Just get me to it, right. Away and Once Upon a Time in the
• 1:24:57
  West does that, here's what I'm going to play Devil's Advocate.
• 1:25:01
  And then after that Justin, I think you should you should play
• 1:25:03
  it. When you say, we got to give
• 1:25:05
  them something. They know we we've given them
• 1:25:08
  something. They know, I know if you if you
• 1:25:10
  if you just look at the top nine that we've already put half of
• 1:25:14
  this more than half of this list of stuff that don't get no
• 1:25:17
  reason. But I'm not even saying it's
• 1:25:19
  stuff that they don't know that they know or I'm just saying
• 1:25:21
  stuff that you're gonna and when I say, A recognizable like
• 1:25:26
  they're going to want to play it again, they're going to be like
• 1:25:29
  okay I can remember that. Okay lend that's what happened
• 1:25:33
  to me with that song like this essentially, the same thing.
• 1:25:35
  I heard it for the first time on this Disney thing and it took me
• 1:25:42
  a long time to hear it again. But once I got to hear it, it
• 1:25:45
  brought me back to watching this, this, this project and I
• 1:25:51
  had like a vivid memory of it. So Justin, how about you play
• 1:25:56
  it? I am It's been playing this
• 1:26:01
  whole time, I've been hearing to passionate arguments.
• 1:26:23
  Let me see if I can play Peacemaker here.
• 1:26:28
  Oh, we willing to take away or switch out one of those songs
• 1:26:34
  for something that's already on here.
• 1:26:41
  Yes there's something something that got through.
• 1:26:44
  Think I won't I won't budge on brothers in arms and I don't
• 1:26:49
  think Fred of it sounded like you were going to budge on Romeo
• 1:26:52
  and Juliet. No I don't think it sounded like
• 1:26:54
  you were going to budge on so far away and feels like nobody
• 1:26:58
  else to budge on money for nothing either.
• 1:27:02
  I'm with you on that. I don't, I don't, I wouldn't
• 1:27:05
  give up any of those for this song.
• 1:27:08
  Okay, so we're looking at Walk of Life, Sultans of Swing know.
• 1:27:12
  They're, they're on a mattock that we can't we can't replace
• 1:27:14
  Tommy Telegraph Road. That's another way.
• 1:27:17
  We can't, we can't replace the the unanimous ones.
• 1:27:21
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:27:22
  So then in that case, you have to make a decision.
• 1:27:26
  Yeah. That then that's on you guys
• 1:27:27
  because I think Justin and I don't have a dog in the fight.
• 1:27:31
  Yeah. Like, you know, Right now, I
• 1:27:39
  have no heard two. Really, really solid Arguments
• 1:27:45
  for these songs. Oh Justin.
• 1:27:48
  Hmm, I think this is a good time to invoke.
• 1:27:52
  The Alfredo rule. Nope, nope.
• 1:27:56
  No. That then you guys got to Hash
• 1:27:58
  it out. I made my case to try to get to
• 1:28:01
  make you both happy and mr. Dean Koontz over there even even
• 1:28:08
  it with something that is already established and that is
• 1:28:11
  the Fredo rule. I guess the question is, are we
• 1:28:17
  seriously at an impasse or is one of you willing to budge?
• 1:28:24
  No, I don't think I am. I'm sorry.
• 1:28:26
  And I'm not doing it to be a pain in the ass or anything like
• 1:28:29
  that. In the problem is you make a
• 1:28:32
  very valid point, musically with opening of the song her 100%
• 1:28:38
  right calling Elvis does not Q in the beginning.
• 1:28:41
  It absolutely does not. Got to wait for it.
• 1:28:45
  And if we're going to call that, if we're going to call that a
• 1:28:47
  caveat, and that's the answer. Right calling Elvis.
• 1:28:54
  Doesn't start out like that. You're 100% correct on that.
• 1:29:00
  This is also a point in time where I would like to remind
• 1:29:03
  folks, that a great thing for you to do is to collect all the
• 1:29:07
  songs that have been mentioned today and give them oil.
• 1:29:09
  Listen, sure, absolutely. So what Go ahead for it.
• 1:29:16
  Yeah. So if we're going to say you
• 1:29:20
  know it does he the song doesn't grab you at the beginning.
• 1:29:28
  We could really say the same of that of quite a few of these
• 1:29:33
  songs. Oh, that's the document was just
• 1:29:36
  with these two. We already put in the other
• 1:29:39
  songs. Yeah, I know.
• 1:29:41
  But I'm saying I'm what I'm saying is right.
• 1:29:43
  Yeah. Freddie why you gotta bring up
• 1:29:44
  old shit? Yeah.
• 1:29:45
  Because that's what I do. That's what I do.
• 1:29:49
  And I want to I'm just trying to look for something that might
• 1:29:54
  make me no way. Somehow we're at an hour and a
• 1:29:57
  half and 30 minutes has been song.
• 1:30:00
  Number 10. Look, if the argument was
• 1:30:07
  between Bob and I and you said that, You and Justin were going
• 1:30:11
  to sit out. So Bob, I thank you.
• 1:30:14
  It was a very, very good debate and I you know calling all this
• 1:30:18
  is a good song that I think. I said it was twenty one on my
• 1:30:22
  list. So you know, I know you're not
• 1:30:25
  wrong for bringing it up and wanting an end.
• 1:30:27
  No. And I to your point about the,
• 1:30:30
  the song starting out better. It's 100% 100% right on that.
• 1:30:34
  Hi Ike, Aviana! Yes.
• 1:30:38
  To Justin's point, if there was going to be a Mark, Knopfler
• 1:30:41
  solo, Session or for his later work then it could seal, even
• 1:30:49
  call it calling Elvis out because of that reference that I
• 1:30:51
  made to it. Oh well, I can see it either way
• 1:30:56
  on that. So then it's on you Bob.
• 1:31:02
  I think he just yeah I think he's an idiot.
• 1:31:05
  Yeah, I think he's given his consent to Once Upon a Time.
• 1:31:08
  Okay. West, exactly.
• 1:31:09
  I don't know if you were you paying attention?
• 1:31:11
  No, that's not paying attention. Not paying attention is also
• 1:31:17
  part of the bit. Yes.
• 1:31:18
  All right, so we got there. Sultans of Swing tunnel of
• 1:31:22
  Canada. Yes, Telegraph wrote didn't see
• 1:31:25
  that coming industrial disease, Walk of Life money for nothing
• 1:31:28
  so far away, Romeo and Juliet Brothers in Arms.
• 1:31:30
  Once Upon a Time in the West. The West rounds out, our 10 now
• 1:31:34
  Fredo of those 10, which one's the one Romeo and Juliet.
• 1:31:42
  That that's what you're gonna get from me, sorry.
• 1:31:46
  All right, Bob that we may be in for another fight.
• 1:31:53
  The one I think the song that made them was Sultans of Swing
• 1:31:56
  and I think the guitar solo the lyrics, the story that song is
• 1:32:02
  is the one and I think there's other conversations about other
• 1:32:07
  songs but that's that is the Dire Straits song.
• 1:32:10
  What are you thinking? Randy?
• 1:32:13
  My first instinct after, you know, like just going into this,
• 1:32:18
  I really fell in love with Brothers in Arms.
• 1:32:22
  I would love to give that song to anybody, but it doesn't feel
• 1:32:26
  like it has a chance in this group.
• 1:32:29
  My number two was easily Sultans of Swing.
• 1:32:31
  So that's I'm gonna I'm gonna go on into that boat.
• 1:32:36
  I also think it's Sultans of Swing Walk of Life would be be,
• 1:32:41
  you know, my oh my God, I fucking forgot.
• 1:32:47
  I love this song. And oh, man, it makes me so
• 1:32:50
  happy. But when I mentioned this, when
• 1:32:54
  it came up, when Sultans of Swing, when it was playing and I
• 1:32:57
  was listening to it, I just I loved it even more that that
• 1:33:04
  time. I listen to it.
• 1:33:05
  So I feel like, I feel like as a reminder, some people again,
• 1:33:09
  this may be one of those situations where they've heard
• 1:33:11
  the song didn't know the band we could be in informing.
• 1:33:16
  We could be answering a trivia question for them.
• 1:33:19
  So I I'm on board with Sultans of Swing, that was my number two
• 1:33:24
  so obviously knowing my number one isn't getting through.
• 1:33:28
  I'm good with that. All right so let's do that.
• 1:33:31
  Let's get us some Sultans of Swing in here and I will find it
• 1:33:38
  eventually. There it is.
• 1:33:41
  Come on baby. There it is.
• 1:33:43
  Let's let it get a moment in the sun here.
• 1:33:46
  We need some sunshine. You get a shiver in the dark,
• 1:33:54
  it's raining. It is some of the I love how it
• 1:34:06
  but sounds like everything, but nothing else.
• 1:34:10
  At the same time, it sounds like everything else.
• 1:34:12
  Would also sounds like nothing else you go.
• 1:34:16
  Look at the the Billboard top 100.
• 1:34:18
  For 78 and 79 because it made both lists for the year and tell
• 1:34:24
  me if you see anything else, like it, it's so close to like
• 1:34:27
  it. Yeah, it's so bizarre, like it
• 1:34:29
  has this feeling like I can, I can go.
• 1:34:32
  It kind of sounds like this. It kind of sounds like this, but
• 1:34:34
  at the same time, it doesn't it's bizarre.
• 1:34:38
  I love it. One quick thing.
• 1:34:40
  I want to add in about now, for he's a magician with his solo
• 1:34:45
  work but that shouldn't really. And what I mean is, Soloing on a
• 1:34:49
  guitar, not is his solo albums, but he shouldn't be known for
• 1:34:55
  that. He should be known for his
• 1:34:57
  progressions and what he's been able to do kind of Blues wise
• 1:35:00
  and stuff. But when he does so low, you
• 1:35:03
  know, it sets him apart from everybody.
• 1:35:07
  You got to think, like, you know, when you think of solos,
• 1:35:09
  you think Eddie Van Halen, you think /, you think Jimi, Hendrix
• 1:35:12
  and those guys, but he figured out a different way to do it.
• 1:35:16
  That has like a Heart and soul to it.
• 1:35:19
  So I give him a lot of credit for that.
• 1:35:20
  That's a really important aspect of that is songwriting.
• 1:35:23
  So, there it is. You have you watched him play
• 1:35:26
  his approach to the guitar is completely different from
• 1:35:28
  anybody else's, the way, the physically.
• 1:35:30
  The way he plays a guitar, he plays like a banjo with no pick.
• 1:35:34
  Hmm, I didn't notice that. Yeah, all right, so I think, I
• 1:35:39
  think there's more on that for after the fact, which if you'd
• 1:35:42
  like to hear patreon.com slash. Oh, hi Justin, one dollar a
• 1:35:45
  month, gets you in the door and You can hear after the fact, you
• 1:35:49
  get the program before the rest of the world, and as a matter of
• 1:35:52
  fact, that will probably start looking like, at least a week
• 1:35:55
  early instead of a couple days early here in the next couple
• 1:35:59
  weeks. So, fingers crossed for your
• 1:36:02
  boy. Also, you can it gets you access
• 1:36:05
  to certain channels in the Discord which is cool, where,
• 1:36:09
  you know, we do stuff the Discord, you can come count,
• 1:36:12
  man. Counting is fun.
• 1:36:14
  We do that. It's fun.
• 1:36:15
  Get in there, count. Never the same or Ever the same
• 1:36:18
  person twice and I think we're up to like almost 400.
• 1:36:22
  So just saying count, come count with us.
• 1:36:26
  You can go to Legion of stupid.com.
• 1:36:27
  If you click up on the top, there's a link to join Discord.
• 1:36:30
  If that's what you want to do by, not pledging to patreon
• 1:36:34
  understandable. You can also go to podcasts,
• 1:36:37
  click on deprogrammed and you will see all the episodes.
• 1:36:41
  You can listen to the episodes there or if you want to listen
• 1:36:44
  to Just Randy episodes, you want to listen to Just Fray do
• 1:36:46
  episodes you want to listen to Just Bob episodes.
• 1:36:48
  Listen to just just an episode. That's all of them.
• 1:36:51
  I will do that joke every time. Also, if you wanted to come play
• 1:36:56
  man, like you just scroll down a little bit more.
• 1:36:58
  There's a sign-up sheet. You know, if I don't know if you
• 1:37:02
  wanted to do that Mark, Knopfler Soul episode with Bob, that's
• 1:37:06
  where you go. You put your name in there.
• 1:37:08
  Sign there. And you, holy shit.
• 1:37:10
  I'm sorry, I'm just realizing I left the song off.
• 1:37:13
  What? Yeah, I forgot I forgot to say
• 1:37:17
  it. Wow.
• 1:37:19
  The man's too strong off of the brothers in arms.
• 1:37:22
  Okay. Well there but it obviously.
• 1:37:24
  Yeah, no, no, we're yeah, it goes nowhere.
• 1:37:26
  But okay. You know what this whole list is
• 1:37:28
  invalid boy. Okay, so I mean look, you see
• 1:37:33
  the fun that we had? I mean, it got heated but it,
• 1:37:36
  you know, not in an angry way, you know, we discussed it out
• 1:37:40
  like adults, how about that? You can check that out on all
• 1:37:44
  podcast platforms, all that stuff, you know, I'm rambling.
• 1:37:48
  So So, that's the best time for me to go Dire Straits.
• 1:37:50
  Let him love and people will see you next week.
• 1:37:52
  Bye.