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Messy Drama, Drama, Drama · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2: It's the almost famous podcast. We are here and we
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Speaker 2: are back. It's no longer the off season. On the
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Speaker 2: almost famous podcast, we're breaking down episode one of Grand
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Speaker 2: Season of The Bachelor.
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Speaker 3: Ashley, Ben, I like the cast.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of girls. Who's who I remember?
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Speaker 2: You know, I feel like this is a good cast
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Speaker 2: of like, uh, some drama, some villainous behavior, some beauty,
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Speaker 2: some great you know, like you've got it all.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he really likes him too. I don't think he's
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Speaker 4: going to have a probable liking any And well, guess what.
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Speaker 4: At the end, we see that his ultimate problem, the drama,
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Speaker 4: his teas, the big Tea's is going to be that
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Speaker 4: he can't pick in the end.
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Speaker 3: Shocker, never seen it before.
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, everybody has a hard time, right, everybody
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Speaker 4: said that you didn't know, but everybody figures it out
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Speaker 4: before that hour, the actual end hour.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's start there, Ashley and have this conversation.
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Speaker 2: Okay before we dive into the breakdown of the episode,
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Speaker 2: which is episode one. So it's going to take us
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Speaker 2: just a few minutes to talk about a lot of
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Speaker 2: people that we don't know their names of.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry, guys, I'm going to generalize. It could
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Speaker 4: be like that girl from there, that girl with that
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Speaker 4: color hair.
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Speaker 3: We do it every year. But let's start with the teaser.
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Speaker 2: It does seem like, unlike any season we've seen before,
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Speaker 2: that he is confused up until literally the very end.
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Speaker 2: Does that, Ashley, in your mind, take away from this
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Speaker 2: experience or does it add an intrigue for you where
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Speaker 2: you're like, I want to see who he chooses and
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Speaker 2: I want to see this love story come out.
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Speaker 4: It definitely adds intrigue, okay, and it definitely makes me
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Speaker 4: feel like he shouldn't pick anyone, and either that neither
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Speaker 4: of them are his girl, very much like Bradwallmac because
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Speaker 4: if you're that torn between two people, maybe it's neither.
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Speaker 4: So you either go the Bradwallmack way where you don't
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Speaker 4: pick anyone, or you say, like we have to date
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Speaker 4: in real life, we can't get engaged, Like that's not
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Speaker 4: the proper place to get engaged.
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Speaker 2: So I want to go with this conversation next because
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Speaker 2: I was watching this teaser and I was like, what
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Speaker 2: would you do? Like, what is the right thing to do?
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Speaker 2: Or what is the healthy thing to do. I don't
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Speaker 2: think it's walking away, because he's not sitting there going
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Speaker 2: I just don't like anybody he's going. I am so
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Speaker 2: in love with two people that I can't make this decision.
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Speaker 2: So do you tell them both, hey, let's start, let's
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Speaker 2: keep doing this weird love triangle.
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Speaker 4: You know that that's the ending that has never happened
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Speaker 4: that I want to happen. And every year I try
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Speaker 4: to call that that's what's going to happen, and it hasn't.
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Speaker 5: It should this time.
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Speaker 3: There's no way that's healthy.
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Speaker 2: Like, there's no way that both women go, yeah, let's
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Speaker 2: just keep dating all three of us totally.
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Speaker 4: But if you were to put it in the real
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Speaker 4: world perspective, isn't it okay to date to people at
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Speaker 4: the same time as long as you don't say that
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Speaker 4: you're committed and you're just dating, Like say, he just
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Speaker 4: goes on a couple of real world dates with these
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Speaker 4: two girls. I bet you he figures it out faster
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Speaker 4: than he would in the bachelor environment.
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Speaker 2: That's probably true. No, I don't think it's wrong to
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Speaker 2: date and to be dating. I think at this point, though,
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Speaker 2: we have to take into the context of the show
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Speaker 2: that these women are showing up thinking that they potentially
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Speaker 2: could be proposed to.
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Speaker 4: Well, this shouldn't be proposed to.
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Speaker 2: And then he's gonna say, let's actually backtrack this to
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Speaker 2: all keep dating and figure this out outside of this world.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if that flies with anybody, and I
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Speaker 2: don't know what kind of message that sends to the
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Speaker 2: women who have invested, at this point months of their
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Speaker 2: life into this man.
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Speaker 4: Wait, we should have asked Brad this. We should have
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Speaker 4: been like, was it ever an option for you to
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Speaker 4: just date in real life? Or did you not like
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Speaker 4: either of them enough?
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Speaker 3: Dud?
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Speaker 2: I think just reading through the messaging when we talked
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Speaker 2: to Brad, great interview, go back listen to it if
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Speaker 2: you haven't yet a lot of context to this whole
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Speaker 2: experience that he gives us. I'm assuming Brad didn't like
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Speaker 2: them enough to propose to them, and that's why he
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Speaker 2: left the show the way he did. I don't think
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Speaker 2: he was in the situation that Grant's in, where producers
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Speaker 2: are telling him you've got to go, man, and Jesse's like,
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Speaker 2: I need to know who to send here first. It
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Speaker 2: seems like Grant is more in the camp of I
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Speaker 2: can't make this decision, which I have no Let me
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Speaker 2: be clear, I have no judgment for I get it,
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Speaker 2: I understand it. I've been in it, and those emotions
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Speaker 2: at the end are confusing. It's chaotic, and especially if
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Speaker 2: something hasn't happened that's really made one stand out above
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Speaker 2: the other. I can see how this would happen. So
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Speaker 2: I'm feeling for Grant here, and I think as viewers
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Speaker 2: you need to take a second and not judge him
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Speaker 2: and say, oh, how terrible of him, I think, and
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Speaker 2: maybe the better perspective to say, I get how this
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Speaker 2: could get to this point, and I feel for him,
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Speaker 2: but outside of all that, he needs to make a decision,
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Speaker 2: even one that could be tough on him, meaning he
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Speaker 2: walks away because he's like, I'm conflicted and I'll call
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Speaker 2: you in three months.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if we figure this.
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Speaker 4: Out, well, can we take a let's take a minute
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Speaker 4: to talk about Grant. We don't really know him at
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Speaker 4: all from Gen season. I thought of it going into
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Speaker 4: this episode as if it was like Matt James and
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Speaker 4: I didn't know him, like he was plucked out of obscurity,
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Speaker 4: because do you really remember anything of subsidet very very
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Speaker 4: similar with Clinton. Yeah, we've done this very often in
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Speaker 4: the past few years. Yeah, So I went in blind
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Speaker 4: and I really liked him. What they did in the
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Speaker 4: first ten minutes, do they really draw you in with
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Speaker 4: him bringing him to the family home and and him
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Speaker 4: talking to his dad, who he seems to not see
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Speaker 4: often because he once he's been in the midst of
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Speaker 4: substance abuse for thirty years. He's finally seemingly gotten clean.
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Speaker 4: But he just talks about his childhood as like, even
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Speaker 4: though his parents were together up until college, he still
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Speaker 4: was around a lot of fighting, He was around the
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Speaker 4: you know, the substance abuse. He didn't have like really
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Speaker 4: romantic idols, and he leaned into basketball and it's it's
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Speaker 4: just been always a thing that he's been searching for,
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Speaker 4: is like a safe spot, a comfortable place to come
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Speaker 4: home to.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that Grant brought up and when
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Speaker 2: we talked to him was that he this season represented
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Speaker 2: a lot of growth for him personally and almost like
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Speaker 2: a therapy, and a part of that was his dad's story.
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Speaker 2: So it was reconnecting with his dad for the first
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Speaker 2: time in a long time. And I think we see
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Speaker 2: it through the previews of the rest of the season.
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Speaker 2: I think we see it on this episode. I do
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Speaker 2: feel like we got to know Grant and I'm rooting
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Speaker 2: for him. Now. I've never wanted to see a lead fail. However,
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Speaker 2: I have gone into seasons being very apathetic about their
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Speaker 2: journey because I'm like, I just still know this person,
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Speaker 2: and why am I rooting for them? I'm rooting for Grant.
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Speaker 2: I want to see this work for Grant. The family
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Speaker 2: dynamic that he has is beautiful. Obviously, we see his
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Speaker 2: sister come onto this show. She's gorgeous, she's protective, she's funny,
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Speaker 2: and she's carrying. She's a great big sister to Grant.
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Speaker 2: We see his grandma and his mom dad. So the
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Speaker 2: show did what it needed to do. Now, I didn't
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Speaker 2: give us like a long version of his story, but
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Speaker 2: we know enough now to say, hey, this isn't just
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Speaker 2: some handsome dude. This is actually a guy that wants
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Speaker 2: to meet somebody and has a family back home rooting
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Speaker 2: for him, and so I want to root for him.
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Speaker 3: At least that was my experience.
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 4: And do you know what really got me The line
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Speaker 4: that he said where they didn't even have dinner together
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Speaker 4: that maybe be like, Okay, that is really sad, and
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Speaker 4: that is something that I want to prioritize with our family.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the things I look back on
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Speaker 2: my childhood and I think for any parents out there,
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Speaker 2: I think one of the things I look back now
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Speaker 2: and think that's so special is that I had dinner
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Speaker 2: with my parents every night, that we could around a
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Speaker 2: table without our cell phones, without the TV, just to
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Speaker 2: be with each other for forty minutes. It's all we're
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Speaker 2: asking and I really appreciate it. I might not loved
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Speaker 2: it back then, I appreciate it now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of the most important things if you
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Speaker 4: talk to a psychiatrists about the way that kids end up,
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Speaker 4: especially in those formative teen years, where yeah, so easy
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Speaker 4: to go ascray.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's dive in then to the breakdown of the
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Speaker 2: first episode of The Bachelor.
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Speaker 3: We have the limit entrances. They are cute.
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Speaker 2: I'd say, there without the glitz and the flare of
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Speaker 2: past seasons, and I like that. It was a lot
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Speaker 2: of just really nice introductions. We got to see them
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Speaker 2: meet and that was awesome. Now we did see a
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Speaker 2: lama that was you know, unique. I would my takeaway
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Speaker 2: from this, and I mean this in the best way
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Speaker 2: possible is I don't remember a season since mine where
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Speaker 2: there was so many just like drop dead beautiful people walking.
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Speaker 3: Out of a limo.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, these girls are.
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Speaker 2: I felt like every single person that stepped out of Lemo,
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Speaker 2: I was like, goodness, how's he going to do this?
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Speaker 3: Like, how's it going to do Night one? Now?
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Speaker 2: The rest of the time, you know, physical attraction is
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Speaker 2: less of an important decision maker, but on Night one,
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Speaker 2: that's really what you're going after. Yes, and he has
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Speaker 2: a beautiful cast of big personalities and I and I'm
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Speaker 2: really as I said, I love the cast. I'm really
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Speaker 2: excited to watch them kind of mold into you know,
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Speaker 2: people were familiar.
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Speaker 4: With When you think about Night one, who are the
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Speaker 4: three girls? That's not necessarily like who the three that
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Speaker 4: you're thinking of, not the ones who had the flashy's
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Speaker 4: entrances or like him with connections, like who are the
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Speaker 4: three main characters?
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Speaker 2: Do when I think at Night one, Ashley, it's a
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Speaker 2: good question, alex One right, first impression Rows She stood
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Speaker 2: out to us when we did the breakdown of the
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Speaker 2: cast without knowing anybody, Alicia, because I love that they
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Speaker 2: just get done making out on a couch and she goes,
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Speaker 2: I don't usually kiss on the first date. And jess
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Speaker 2: Jessica is in the background watching, and she goes, this
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Speaker 2: is even the first date, girl, Like you just sat
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Speaker 2: on a couch with this guy for five minutes. Like
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Speaker 2: the yeah, totally different world here. I also stands out
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Speaker 2: to me, Ashley. My third is Bailey. Oh and there's
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Speaker 2: a reason why.
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Speaker 4: Okay, I'll tell you. Okay, so we match on alex
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Speaker 4: and Alesia. Those were two of my three, and my
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Speaker 4: other one is Carolina, the one from Puerto Rico. And
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Speaker 4: if I were to have a like a standby contestant,
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Speaker 4: it would be either Juliana, the Italian from Massachusetts or Natalie,
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Speaker 4: who is the PhD student that he really liked work
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Speaker 4: with children.
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Speaker 2: I think Caroline is going to be there a long time,
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Speaker 2: and we see that kind of in the previews for
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Speaker 2: the rest of the season. She's obviously a big factor
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Speaker 2: as the season continues. And so I agree with you
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Speaker 2: take nothing away from that. Bailey stood out.
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Speaker 5: To me Bailey Bailey because she was cringe.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think she's going to be a drama starter,
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Speaker 2: and I think right now we're watching it, and we're
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Speaker 2: seeing signs that this is going to be a storyline
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Speaker 2: for the rest of the season. And I think viewers
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Speaker 2: who have watched the show for a while could probably
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Speaker 2: pick up on that. But I think she's going to
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Speaker 2: get herself into a little trouble. And then the other
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Speaker 2: person I think is gonna get in a little trouble
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Speaker 2: is Parsa, And that's why she stood out to me.
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Speaker 3: So I watched these two.
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Speaker 4: And I was like another cringe.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like those two are giving signs and maybe I'll
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Speaker 2: be wrong, but they're giving signs right now to me
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Speaker 2: of some maybe more like villainous behavior.
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Speaker 5: Okay, so to me it wasn't villainous. But those are
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Speaker 5: the two girls that I thought.
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Speaker 4: I don't think he really likes them. Yeah, I thought
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Speaker 4: that he may even not chose either of them.
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Speaker 5: One or the other.
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Speaker 4: One I thought could have gone. Bailey was so cringe
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Speaker 4: with the whole, like Emily and Paris thing like I'm
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Speaker 4: a social media like this is me as an influencer
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Speaker 4: being like, girl, come on now, the fact that you're like,
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Speaker 4: let's take a selfie, Like I love social media and
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Speaker 4: I love to yeah, and document everything about my life.
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Speaker 3: Oh my, oh god.
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Speaker 4: I thought it was such a turn off. And then
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Speaker 4: Parisa with the PowerPoint presentation that was also super cringe.
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Speaker 4: This was a theme that I didn't understand from this episode.
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Speaker 4: I don't know. The producers must have pushed it. They
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Speaker 4: really made these girls say I'm.
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Speaker 5: Gonna marry him. That's my husband, that's my husband.
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Speaker 4: We're gonna get married, Like look at this picture of
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Speaker 4: mess together and like wedding dresses.
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Speaker 5: I was like, what are they doing.
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Speaker 4: They're making them seem so immature doing that, like I'm
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Speaker 4: gonna marry this man who I really haven't I've spent
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Speaker 4: maybe five to ten minutes with. It's just like it
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Speaker 4: was a little bit too much Prince Charming and I'm
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Speaker 4: trying to woo him.
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Speaker 5: At the ball.
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Speaker 2: I agree, And I also think it's probably unattractive for
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Speaker 2: the viewers because the viewers watch this with wanting a
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Speaker 2: semi mature as misture as this show can be love story,
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Speaker 2: and when it starts like this, I would imagine most
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Speaker 2: viewers are going, how are they already talking like this,
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Speaker 2: and how in a sense desperate are they to win
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Speaker 2: at the end, because it does feel immature, and it
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Speaker 2: does feel like the people that I've always appreciated on
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Speaker 2: the show come in and be like, I'm excited to
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Speaker 2: meet this person, but I don't know them yet, but
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Speaker 2: I'm hoping something can form the Kelsey's of the world, Right,
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Speaker 2: Kelsey from Joey's season very much like that, and now
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Speaker 2: look where they're at. It turns into something mature and
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Speaker 2: loving and real and it's not so like oddly forced.
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Speaker 2: If I was on Night one and I had somebody
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Speaker 2: sit by me, or if I overheard somebody saying that's
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Speaker 2: going to be my husband, I'd be like, we're out,
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Speaker 2: Like you're gone.
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Speaker 4: I know. I thought it would be so unattractive for him,
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Speaker 4: especially since he didn't have a huge role on gen season,
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Speaker 4: that you're not even going base on a lot of personality,
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Speaker 4: Like I can see you having like a parasocial relationship
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Speaker 4: with the person who's the runner up third, you know,
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Speaker 4: where you feel like you really know them from TV
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Speaker 4: and you are so excited to get to meet them.
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Speaker 4: But with this, it's like, you guys are really just
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Speaker 4: showing that you're going on looks alone.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And inside of me, Ashley is excited to see
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Speaker 2: this because I do feel like this cast is going
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Speaker 2: to like combust I think it's going to be so
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Speaker 2: dramatic within the house because of some of this behavior
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Speaker 2: right now, And we haven't really had a season for
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Speaker 2: a long time. I mean some of the best seasons
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Speaker 2: that we remember, right the Nick Files seasons where we
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Speaker 2: had this like element of combustion within the house and
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Speaker 2: we all talked about it and we had somebody like
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Speaker 2: kind of leading the charge.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: We think of Carin right there, that name comes to mind.
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Speaker 2: I think this season has something similar going on, and
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Speaker 2: I'm excited for that element, but I do know that
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Speaker 2: a few will kind of stand above. There's also something
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Speaker 2: that I think could have gone unnoticed. But you know
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Speaker 2: how we always used to talk about justin Glaze and
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Speaker 2: his like looks, his facial expressions. Yeah, you know who
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Speaker 2: has the death stare? Like a stare that would make
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Speaker 2: me shudder. Dina Rebecca, Especially when the first like the
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Speaker 2: grand sister walks out, they kind of flashed to her
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Speaker 2: and she's in the background and she's just like kind
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Speaker 2: of staring at the new entrance and I'm like, goodness,
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Speaker 2: I would be frightened.
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Speaker 5: She really Yeah, Rebecca.
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Speaker 4: Based on her photo, we thought that she was super intimidating,
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Speaker 4: but I thought her as a person there didn't come
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Speaker 4: across as intimated, as much aimated not.
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Speaker 2: I just think her look is I think the look.
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Speaker 2: I think she has a look like she has in
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Speaker 2: that photo. I think she has that look in real
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Speaker 2: life when she's intrigued or curious.
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Speaker 3: But that is like the look of power. It is.
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Speaker 2: It would I'd be nervous if I was Grant and
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Speaker 2: I walked past that look. The I'm with you on Carolina.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting to me, Ashley, that we know so many
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Speaker 2: names from night one. Usually you and I get on
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Speaker 2: here and it's all kind of a blur. Nobody really
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Speaker 2: stands out. But we just named five people and.
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Speaker 5: There's somebody else.
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Speaker 4: There's two other people that I could name who Lydia, Litti,
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Speaker 4: Lytia Lytia, and then Zoe who Zoe could be a
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Speaker 4: drama figure.
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Speaker 5: She's quite striking that dress.
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Speaker 4: Loved it. It was emerald, you know, it was really bejeweled.
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Speaker 4: It was also like supposed to be like quote quote
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Speaker 4: see through, but it wasn't. It was dude.
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Speaker 5: I loved it, but it was Laura's scare. I suppose
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Speaker 5: with the first night.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's fine, it's great, Okay, Ashley.
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Speaker 2: As we have gone now three of the people that
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Speaker 2: sit out tow us on night one, I want to
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Speaker 2: take a second and remind you of who your top
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Speaker 2: four were when we did the cast and see now
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Speaker 2: your thoughts on it since it's fresh in our minds.
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Speaker 2: Your top four were Zoe.
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Speaker 4: Okay, I don't think she's going to be top four anymore.
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Speaker 4: I do think that she will play a big role
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Speaker 4: in the season, but not top four connection wise. Uh huh,
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Speaker 4: continue Alex, Alex.
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Speaker 3: Will be top four, Carolina, Carolina will be top four Nisi.
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Speaker 4: Nie, I don't think so anymore. No, she's a pediatrician
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Speaker 4: and I didn't feel a big connection with them off
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Speaker 4: the bat.
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Speaker 3: And then you thought Rose was going to be the troublemaker.
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Speaker 4: Okay, I don't think Rose is going to be a troublemaker,
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Speaker 4: but she will be involved in drama because she has
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Speaker 4: a big personality and they will have something of a connection.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, my top four I'm still confident in if we
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Speaker 2: revisited it, and we won't until next week when we
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Speaker 2: know a little bit more about these women. But my
19:15
Speaker 2: top four before we started or was Alex, I think
19:19
Speaker 2: that's a very solid choice.
19:20
Speaker 3: Feel very good about that.
19:21
Speaker 5: Choyce, Why does she have the most familiar face ever?
19:24
Speaker 5: Who does she look like?
19:25
Speaker 2: I don't know, but she's very I mean she's great.
19:28
Speaker 2: She like rocked it. She was like cute and funny
19:30
Speaker 2: and flirty and confident, and I don't know. I think
19:34
Speaker 2: she's going to be around a while. Alicia was on
19:38
Speaker 2: my top four. Still feel pretty good about it. Rebecca,
19:41
Speaker 2: I think I'm sticking with it.
19:43
Speaker 3: I'm scared. I'm scared to say otherwise.
19:46
Speaker 5: They did not get her a lot of airtime.
19:48
Speaker 3: No, because she's going to be a fan favorite.
19:51
Speaker 5: You're making things up, Okay.
19:53
Speaker 3: And Zoe. I did have Zoe as well.
19:57
Speaker 2: It's yet to be seen with Zoe, as you said,
19:59
Speaker 2: plays a big role in the season.
20:02
Speaker 3: But I don't know how I feel.
20:03
Speaker 2: I think Carolina would probably have snuck up there now
20:05
Speaker 2: if I was to redo this, but we won't again.
20:07
Speaker 5: What about Juliana.
20:08
Speaker 4: Juliana definitely, she's my top four now. She's my replacement
20:12
Speaker 4: for NISI.
20:13
Speaker 2: Really yeah, Okay, it'll be interesting as the season goes
20:17
Speaker 2: on to keep track of this, to remind us of
20:20
Speaker 2: who we had at the beginning. But I feel pretty
20:23
Speaker 2: good about our choices. I think we were kind of
20:25
Speaker 2: spot on, and I'm guessing a lot of the viewers
20:28
Speaker 2: will feel the same way as we progress now through
20:33
Speaker 2: this season. Actually, I want to stop. Okay, what other
20:38
Speaker 2: moments from Night one stood out to you actually that
20:40
Speaker 2: I think are worth talking about?
20:42
Speaker 4: Well, just two random things with me looking at the
20:44
Speaker 4: cast right now is I think Ali Joe is so
20:47
Speaker 4: freaking pretty and I just want to see her.
20:49
Speaker 5: More on screen.
20:51
Speaker 4: And then Dina she could be She's not gonna be
20:56
Speaker 4: a villain, but she's not a warm and fuzzy so
20:59
Speaker 4: I could see her being a source of some sort attention. Yeah,
21:05
Speaker 4: what about you?
21:06
Speaker 2: I think the whole Alex segment to me made it
21:11
Speaker 2: seem like either she's going to be there to end
21:13
Speaker 2: or it's going to be a heartbreaking exit way earlier
21:16
Speaker 2: than we expect, because she was such a star on
21:19
Speaker 2: Night one and I just watch that and it makes
21:21
Speaker 2: me work nervous. You don't usually see that out of
21:24
Speaker 2: the gate, and then that person to be around as
21:29
Speaker 2: long as we hope and think she will. I also,
21:33
Speaker 2: as I said, kind of pointed out that there's a
21:35
Speaker 2: few troublemakers. I think in this group and I always.
21:39
Speaker 3: Love love because I'm so evil.
21:43
Speaker 2: When the girls on Night one start talking about how
21:48
Speaker 2: everybody's on the same page and we're giving each other
21:51
Speaker 2: at the time yea and this is going to be great,
21:53
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, you have no idea. This is
21:58
Speaker 2: going to backify. That statement's going to backfire. And so
22:01
Speaker 2: as a result, I think that's foreshadowing that this season
22:03
Speaker 2: is going to be messy. And we see it, right,
22:09
Speaker 2: we see The interesting part of the preview is not
22:13
Speaker 2: that we see Grant's moments of drama, mostly with his
22:18
Speaker 2: own tears, but we see a lot of it feels
22:22
Speaker 2: like inner house arguing. But we do have one moment, actually, there's.
22:28
Speaker 4: One moment that stands out to me go.
22:30
Speaker 2: Ahead that we've never seen before. Necessarily okay, a confrontation
22:36
Speaker 2: to the lead. We see it during the preview. Grant
22:40
Speaker 2: says the words someone's making that up. I never said that,
22:45
Speaker 2: which makes me think that somebody is pushing Grant, like
22:48
Speaker 2: confronting him on something that hurt them. You don't see
22:52
Speaker 2: that many times with the lead.
22:54
Speaker 4: You think that person actually made it up though, or
22:57
Speaker 4: there is somebody in the house that is creating lies.
23:00
Speaker 2: I think there's somebody creating lies. I think this house
23:02
Speaker 2: I actually I am under the impression right now.
23:07
Speaker 4: You really think these girls are drama? Drama, drama. I'm
23:09
Speaker 4: not so sure.
23:10
Speaker 3: Do you.
23:11
Speaker 5: I think that you know things?
23:12
Speaker 3: I know nothing. Okay, I know nothing about the house.
23:15
Speaker 4: Okay, he knows something about another element of the season. Okay,
23:20
Speaker 4: you know nothing about the girls.
23:21
Speaker 3: And I feel I just have a feeling. I have
23:23
Speaker 3: a feeling.
23:24
Speaker 5: Okay.
23:25
Speaker 4: Well, there's the part of the preview that we didn't
23:27
Speaker 4: talk about that I thought stood out was Carolina going
23:31
Speaker 4: up the staircase going I'm evil, evil evil.
23:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels a little tongue in cheek to me.
23:39
Speaker 2: It feels a little bit like, I don't know.
23:41
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and her, well, I think she's just gonna
23:46
Speaker 4: be very threatening to the women, Suhanna says, I do see.
23:49
Speaker 4: I think it's a girl thing. I can see her
23:51
Speaker 4: like maybe being a little bit conceited.
23:55
Speaker 2: See, I don't see it yet. I love this, Ashulely.
23:57
Speaker 2: I love that we're both on so different pages. Do
24:00
Speaker 2: you think the house is going to get along? I
24:01
Speaker 2: think the house is going to combust. You think Carolina
24:05
Speaker 2: is actually going to cause trouble. I don't think she
24:07
Speaker 2: is much at all. I really like this dynamic going
24:12
Speaker 2: into a season. Usually you and I have these first
24:14
Speaker 2: episodes and we're both in such agreement that it's a
24:16
Speaker 2: little boring and there's no conflict between us. But I
24:20
Speaker 2: think Ashley, as the season goes on, you know, you
24:24
Speaker 2: and I are going to see the world's very different,
24:26
Speaker 2: and that makes this so much more fun.
24:28
Speaker 4: I do love that as well. That is fun. Okay,
24:31
Speaker 4: was there anything else that we didn't mention?
24:34
Speaker 3: A lot of kissing?
24:35
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that was it? Thank you.
24:38
Speaker 4: At first, I was like, Oh, Alicia's going to get
24:40
Speaker 4: the first impression Rose because she gets the kiss. Then
24:44
Speaker 4: I saw that he kissed legit eight. I feel like
24:47
Speaker 4: we saw like eight should have done a kiss tally.
24:51
Speaker 4: That was a lot and it made me. I was
24:53
Speaker 4: like I went in being like, oh, love grit, love
24:56
Speaker 4: him so much, and then I was like, oh God,
24:58
Speaker 4: like really, dude, come on now. I didn't leave the
25:01
Speaker 4: episode like him as much as I went into the episode.
25:05
Speaker 5: Not that I'm like shaming him for kissing.
25:07
Speaker 4: There's a lot of bachelers that kiss a lot on
25:09
Speaker 4: the first night, but I do feel like it was like,
25:11
Speaker 4: save some goods.
25:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be a very like physically romantic season.
25:18
Speaker 2: It seems like there's gonna be a lot of like
25:20
Speaker 2: physical chemistry being displayed on our televisions, which is fine.
25:28
Speaker 2: Like you said, a lot of bachelors do it. I
25:30
Speaker 2: don't love watching people make out. It's not really something
25:33
Speaker 2: I enjoy. I like knowing kind of where the relationship
25:38
Speaker 2: stands as the weeks go on and when they kiss,
25:40
Speaker 2: and like to kind of see the chemistry a little bit,
25:42
Speaker 2: but it's not a fun. Part of me watching the
25:44
Speaker 2: show is me having to view and hear two people's
25:48
Speaker 2: smack lips.
25:49
Speaker 4: He looks like a good kisser, though I'm sure he
25:52
Speaker 4: is nothing against his his kiss I have criticized kissing
25:57
Speaker 4: styles in the past.
25:59
Speaker 2: I think Matt Jane was the one that we kept
26:00
Speaker 2: catching him with his eyes wide open. That was always weird.
26:04
Speaker 2: But I have nothing against his style his way of
26:09
Speaker 2: going about it. I just don't love watching it. I
26:12
Speaker 2: would much rather watch everything other than the two of
26:15
Speaker 2: them kiss, and I don't like hearing it, And the
26:17
Speaker 2: show loves to enhance the smacking so that everybody gets
26:22
Speaker 2: a good sense of what's actually happening. If there's tongue
26:25
Speaker 2: involved or not. Ashley, I think this is gonna be
26:29
Speaker 2: a good season.
26:31
Speaker 3: I don't.
26:34
Speaker 2: I don't think there's gonna be any part of this
26:37
Speaker 2: season that feels like past seasons. The reason I say
26:42
Speaker 2: that is I do think Grant has that element of
26:44
Speaker 2: mystery and surprise to us. But I also think we're
26:47
Speaker 2: gonna really like Grant, and I also think we're gonna
26:50
Speaker 2: really like his cast. So I'm excited for this season.
26:54
Speaker 2: I'm going into it excited. I'm ready to watch it.
26:56
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for the next week to come around. I hope,
27:01
Speaker 2: as a fan and as a viewer, is that the
27:06
Speaker 2: drama doesn't overtake his ability to connect with these women
27:10
Speaker 2: like I know he wants to. I think Grant has
27:13
Speaker 2: a desire to make this real and to make this raw,
27:17
Speaker 2: to really dig into these relationships, and sometimes the drama
27:21
Speaker 2: can overtake that, and we watch five weeks of drama
27:25
Speaker 2: without any progress in relationships, and then we all of
27:27
Speaker 2: a sudden get spit out at the end. Yeah, I
27:29
Speaker 2: think that would be the only way this season gets
27:31
Speaker 2: in a sense ruined to me. Okay, but I still
27:35
Speaker 2: think Alex is the superstar.
27:37
Speaker 3: No matter what.
27:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally agree.
27:40
Speaker 4: I would say my final feedback of this is I'm
27:45
Speaker 4: a little concerned that he might be like a little
27:47
Speaker 4: bit puppy dog ish, he might get swallowed up by
27:52
Speaker 4: the whole thing. Yeah, because he just seems very gentle well,
27:56
Speaker 4: and his.
27:56
Speaker 2: Lack of experience on gen season could add into that. Right,
28:00
Speaker 2: didn't see the end.
28:01
Speaker 5: That always seems to do.
28:03
Speaker 4: So if we go back and look at these guys
28:07
Speaker 4: that we just named earlier in the show, Matt and Clayton,
28:13
Speaker 4: the less experience you have on the main show except
28:16
Speaker 4: for Hannah Brown. So maybe it's a bachelor thing. Maybe
28:18
Speaker 4: it's a bachelor I thing. Maybe it's just a once
28:22
Speaker 4: at like one instance type thing. Everybody's different. But he
28:25
Speaker 4: does come across to me as like maybe a little
28:29
Speaker 4: bit Maybe I'm over exaggerating, but maybe he's a little
28:32
Speaker 4: bit naive.
28:34
Speaker 3: I could see it. I think that's a legitimate concern.
28:38
Speaker 2: But Ashley, for other people listening out there, are you,
28:42
Speaker 2: and I know you're honest with us about this, are
28:45
Speaker 2: you excited to watch the rest of the season after
28:47
Speaker 2: Night one?
28:49
Speaker 4: I will tell you this, honestly, I've never been so
28:53
Speaker 4: less excited. I've never been so less excited. Does that
28:56
Speaker 4: make sense. I've never I think people, I've.
29:00
Speaker 5: Never looked forward to pressing play.
29:03
Speaker 4: On an episode less than I did with this.
29:07
Speaker 5: I will be honest, that's fair.
29:10
Speaker 4: I don't feel the same way about next week, but
29:14
Speaker 4: I would rather answer this question after next week's episode.
29:17
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll ask you again then, Okay, Yeah, Night one's
29:20
Speaker 3: always weird.
29:21
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not saying I liked it. It was good.
29:23
Speaker 4: It was good, but I also wasn't like Homely Crop
29:27
Speaker 4: I cannot wait.
29:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree.
29:29
Speaker 2: I mean I would disagree in the fact that I'm
29:31
Speaker 2: excited to watch every episode. I would say that the
29:35
Speaker 2: preview for the rest of the season didn't make me go, I,
29:39
Speaker 2: holy crap, kind of like what is going to like
29:42
Speaker 2: the fence jump stuff. But I do think it's going
29:44
Speaker 2: to be a good season. I am personally excited to
29:47
Speaker 2: continue to have these cast members evolve and have Grant
29:51
Speaker 2: evolve in front of our eyes.
29:52
Speaker 4: Do you know what? Do you know why it was like,
29:56
Speaker 4: we're not like that excited about next week. It's because
29:58
Speaker 4: like we know that the drama that they're really teasing
30:02
Speaker 4: is the last episode.
30:03
Speaker 2: Hmmm, we know it's pushed off for so long. Yeah, yeah,
30:07
Speaker 2: it could be too. Well, we'll be here no matter
30:10
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30:16
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30:19
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