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The Late Debate | 18 March · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome Late Bay, Well, thanks for joining us on the
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  Speaker 2: Late Debate. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and filling
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  Speaker 2: in for Caleb Bond Freier leish a lot coming up tonight,
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  Speaker 2: including a Melbourne council move their meetings.
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  Speaker 1: Online to avoid ratepayers.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that a little later, plus when we
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  Speaker 2: look at what's making news tomorrow, Victorian Premier Dicenta Allen
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  Speaker 2: accused of corruption over the removal of top cops, and
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  Speaker 2: the Australian notes that our debt nationally is blowing out
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  Speaker 2: to be the worst in the developed world.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to all of that shortly, but first.
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  Speaker 2: The Albanezi government continues its move to create a republic
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  Speaker 2: by stealth with confirmation today that King Charles will be
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  Speaker 2: removed from the new five dollar note. It means that
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  Speaker 2: for the first time since nineteen twenty three, no royal
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  Speaker 2: will feature on any Australian banknotes. The current five dollar note,
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  Speaker 2: which depicts the now deceased Queen Elizabeth, will be redesigned
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  Speaker 2: as a tribute to Indigenous people. The Reserve Bank released
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  Speaker 2: a statement today saying the imagery on the five dollar
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  Speaker 2: bank note should recognize the enduring connection that first nations
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  Speaker 2: people have to country as an emotional and spiritual connection
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  Speaker 2: as much as a physical one. So most of you
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  Speaker 2: would be familiar with the current five dollar note, not
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  Speaker 2: that it buys much these days.
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  Speaker 1: Will show it to you. Here's the five dollar note.
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  Speaker 2: There it is, and here's a proposal as to what
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  Speaker 2: the new five dollar note could look like. Now, this change,
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  Speaker 2: of course, is at the discretion of the Reserve Bank,
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  Speaker 2: but it must be noted both the Prime Minister Anthony
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  Speaker 2: Albanesi and the Treasurer Jim Chalmers have for the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of years been hinting very strongly that they would
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  Speaker 2: like to see a change. Anthony Albanesi was elected to
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  Speaker 2: government with a mandate to hold a second referendum on
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  Speaker 2: whether or not we should become a republic. He chose
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  Speaker 2: not to exercise that after the debacle that was the
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  Speaker 2: Voice referendum.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't given a mandate though, to sort.
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  Speaker 2: Of unilaterally move us towards a republic minus any vote.
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  Speaker 2: Roy Morgan Research polled as recently as last October, finding
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  Speaker 2: the majority of Australians still supported the idea of a
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  Speaker 2: constitutional monarchy fifty seven percent in fact, which is very
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  Speaker 2: close to the number who voted.
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  Speaker 1: Against the Voice.
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  Speaker 2: Yet Anthony Albanesi looks to impose republican objectives, whether we
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  Speaker 2: like it or not. I would say that until Australians
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  Speaker 2: vote to become a republic, we of course are a
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  Speaker 2: constitutional monarchy. We should not only recognize that, but we
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  Speaker 2: should celebrate it. And it's not about whether or not
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  Speaker 2: you like King Charles. We've all got our views on
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  Speaker 2: the individuals who comprise the royal family, but they personify
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  Speaker 2: a system of government that is kept as safe and
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  Speaker 2: secure for the better part of two hundred years and
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  Speaker 2: that's made.
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  Speaker 1: Us the envy of the world.
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  Speaker 2: What Anthony Alberanezi is trying to do and we see
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  Speaker 2: it in so many areas and now with the five
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  Speaker 2: dollar note, is a republic by incrementalism. Not only is
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  Speaker 2: it uncalled for, he has no mandate for it, but ironically, Liz,
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  Speaker 2: it's hardly democratic.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're giving him way too much credit here,
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  Speaker 3: because we've got to be clear, this is the Reserve
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  Speaker 3: Bank's decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Oh but there was a lot of press.
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  Speaker 3: They console the government. The government says yes, we support this.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, geez, no cigar for getting that one right.
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  Speaker 3: Of course the government did support it, but at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the day, the butt stops with the Reserve
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  Speaker 3: Bank and this is what they've decided to do. So
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  Speaker 3: the question is more who's pulling the strings at the
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  Speaker 3: Reserve Bank that thinks, oh, well, we'd rather have something
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  Speaker 3: indigenous and about their connection to land and country than
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  Speaker 3: the monarch. But I've got to say, in recent years
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  Speaker 3: we have seen in this country and I think we're
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  Speaker 3: going to be seeing it more sooh with young and
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  Speaker 3: starting to vote more and more coming through the ranks,
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  Speaker 3: those who have been indoctrinated with this anti colonialist sentiment,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot more than that, the republic people pushing
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  Speaker 3: for Australia to become a republic have advanced in leaps
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  Speaker 3: and bounds.
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  Speaker 4: They are definitely seeing the numbers.
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  Speaker 3: The numbers you quoted there from the Ray Morgan Pole
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  Speaker 3: were actually pretty impressive for them, the fact that fifty
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  Speaker 3: seven which is a considerable majority, but it's not mahusive
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  Speaker 3: And I think in the coming years we will eventually
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  Speaker 3: see Australia become a republic.
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  Speaker 4: That's just where it's going.
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  Speaker 3: So you do wonder if the Reserve Bank is just
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  Speaker 3: a bit like let's save ourselves a bit of a headache,
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  Speaker 3: because there's no use putting King Charles on the note
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  Speaker 3: if in five or even ten years we've got to
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  Speaker 3: swap it out again.
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  Speaker 1: It just so happens.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a young and on the desk tonight on
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  Speaker 2: the Late Debates.
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  Speaker 1: So Freyer, what's going to happen?
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  Speaker 2: Is Liz right, Will the younger generation move towards republic?
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  Speaker 1: Was the five dollar note a good move?
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  Speaker 5: Controversial opinion here.
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  Speaker 6: I actually don't think young people will support a republic,
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  Speaker 6: and we're seeing that in the polling numbers. They're actually
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  Speaker 6: far more pro monarchy than my parents' generation were at
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  Speaker 6: the same age. And I think that's partly because so
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  Speaker 6: many of the institutions and the traditions and the history
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  Speaker 6: of our country have been stripped away by these anti
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  Speaker 6: Australian forces that you talked about, and so we want
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  Speaker 6: to cling on to any last vestige of history and culture.
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  Speaker 4: That we can.
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  Speaker 6: And if we've removed the monarchy from Australia, well what
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  Speaker 6: do we have left?
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  Speaker 5: Like, what do we have left where a young country?
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  Speaker 6: The monarchy is foundational to our national identity, our system
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  Speaker 6: of government, our legal system, everything if we strip that away,
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  Speaker 6: this is the problem with progressives. What do you replace
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  Speaker 6: it with? Absolutely nothing? So you lead it ends up
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  Speaker 6: with this flattening of life. Really, and I think we've
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  Speaker 6: experienced that in so many areas, the decline of religion,
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  Speaker 6: broken homes, the decline of meaning, and taking away the
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  Speaker 6: monarchy is just another one of those stripping away of
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  Speaker 6: the institutions that give life to our country. So I
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  Speaker 6: actually don't think young people will opt for a republic.
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  Speaker 5: I may be proven wrong.
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  Speaker 6: I hope i'm not, But I just think that this
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  Speaker 6: is an example of unelected bureaucrats. The elites at the
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  Speaker 6: RBA in Martin Place sitting there going hmm, how can
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  Speaker 6: we advance our cultural agenda?
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  Speaker 5: And that's all this is.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you that progressives don't have an alternative.
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  Speaker 2: They just destroy everything without providing an alternative. The only
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  Speaker 2: problem is, I think they do have an alternative to
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  Speaker 2: a constitutional monarchy. Listen, it's President Kevin Rudd or President
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  Speaker 2: Malcolm Turnbull.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we're all afraid of.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's the biggest fear with a republic.
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  Speaker 2: But this moved by the RBA, I mean, it's a
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  Speaker 2: pretty big deal. It really, As I said, it's the
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  Speaker 2: first time in over one hundred years that we don't
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  Speaker 2: have a monarch on any of our Australian banknotes. For
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  Speaker 2: them to do this without public consent, when indeed the
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  Speaker 2: majority of people still support the monarchy, I think is
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  Speaker 2: a betrayal of the public.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have the right to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, in some ways they could argue that they do
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  Speaker 3: were because their latest opinion poll on this very thing,
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  Speaker 3: because King Charles became king and there was a real
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  Speaker 3: boost in the interest around the monarchy, its relevancy in Australia, etc.
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  Speaker 4: And so on.
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  Speaker 3: Our helpful friends ran a poll just last year. Thirty
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  Speaker 3: four percent of ozsi's wanted the King on the five
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  Speaker 3: dollar note, forty three percent preferred a famous Australian of
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  Speaker 3: any description, somebody anyone, but not the King, and the
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  Speaker 3: rest were undecided. We make a point to that and say, well,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we've just alluded to several polls throughout the course.
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  Speaker 4: Of this conversation.
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  Speaker 3: We do use them to get a gauge on popular
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  Speaker 3: The only.
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  Speaker 2: Poll that counts is a referendum. When we changed from
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  Speaker 2: a constitutional monarchy to a republican you're not.
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  Speaker 3: Going to have a referendum on who ends up on
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  Speaker 3: the five dollar hoes, Well, exactly, Indeed, it wouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: worth half a billion dollars got up for debate.
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  Speaker 2: We're a constitutional monarchy and until the Australian public votes otherwise,
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  Speaker 2: that's how it is. They shouldn't be changing our national emblems.
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  Speaker 3: Well it's certainly not up for debate because we didn't
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  Speaker 3: get one, thanks RBA. Speaking of unelected bureaucrats just doing
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  Speaker 3: whatever the heck they want, these nameless, phaseless people. If
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  Speaker 3: you needed further proof that Biden's presidency was perhaps one
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  Speaker 3: of the greatest cons ever foisted on the American people,
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  Speaker 3: look no further than a shocking revelation that we found
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  Speaker 3: out earlier this month thanks to the Heritage Foundation's Oversight project,
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  Speaker 3: which was able after a very thorough investigation to reveal
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  Speaker 3: that every single edict from the Biden administration during those
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  Speaker 3: entire four years had been signed by an autopen not
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  Speaker 3: by the man himself, with the exception of one, and
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  Speaker 3: that was his letter announcing he was no longer contesting
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  Speaker 3: the presidential race in twenty twenty four. Check out this
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  Speaker 3: tweet of the Heritage Foundation letting everyone know. They said,
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  Speaker 3: whoever controlled the autopen controlled the presidency. We gathered every
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  Speaker 3: document we could find with Biden's signature over the course
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  Speaker 3: of his presidency. All used the same autopen signature, except
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  Speaker 3: for the announcement that the former president was dropping out
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  Speaker 3: of the race last year. Here's the autopen signature, and
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  Speaker 3: they supply a few examples of that, and.
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  Speaker 4: Then they say, year is the signature from.
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  Speaker 3: The letter announcing Biden was dropping out of the race,
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  Speaker 3: which it looks decidedly difference. Now, of course, this revelation
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  Speaker 3: now begets the question who was running the Biden administration.
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  Speaker 3: We asked it very often ourselves, as we noted his
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  Speaker 3: worsening mental decline over the course of those four years,
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  Speaker 3: but in particular for the new Trump administration.
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  Speaker 4: They're saying, well, this calls into question.
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  Speaker 3: All those eleventh hour pardons that he decided to give
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  Speaker 3: on his.
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  Speaker 4: Way out the door. But before we get into that, his.
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  Speaker 3: Speaker of the House Johnson relaying to everyone a conversation
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  Speaker 3: that he had with the then President Biden, showing just
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  Speaker 3: how much this auto pen was used and the gravity
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  Speaker 3: of the situation, Sir.
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  Speaker 7: Why did you pause? Llen g exports to Europe, like,
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  Speaker 7: I don't understand. You know, liquefiedinacial gas is in great
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  Speaker 7: demand by ourn. Why would you do that because you
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  Speaker 7: understand we just talked about Ukraine. You understand you're fuel
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  Speaker 7: in Vladimir Putin's war machine because they got to get
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  Speaker 7: their gas from the PM, you know. And he looks
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  Speaker 7: at me, stunned with this, and he said I didn't.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't do that. And I said, miss President, you yes,
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  Speaker 7: you did. It was an executive order like you know,
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  Speaker 7: three weeks ago. And he goes, no, I didn't do that,
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  Speaker 7: and he's arguing with me. I said, miss President, respectfully,
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  Speaker 7: can I could I go out here and ask your
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  Speaker 7: secretary to print it out.
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  Speaker 1: We'll read it together.
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  Speaker 7: You definitely did that, and he goes, oh, you talk
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  Speaker 7: about natural gas. Yes, sir, he said, oh no, I
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  Speaker 7: did you misunderstand? He said, what I did is I
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  Speaker 7: signed this thing to We're going to conduct a study
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  Speaker 7: on the effects of energy. I said, no, you're not, sir,
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  Speaker 7: you paused it. I know I have the terminal, the
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  Speaker 7: export terminals in my state. I talked to those people
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  Speaker 7: this morning. This is doing massive damage to our economy,
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  Speaker 7: national security. It occurred to me, Barry, he was not
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  Speaker 7: lying to me. He genuinely did not know what he
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  Speaker 7: had signed. And I walked out of that meeting with
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  Speaker 7: fear and loathing because I thought, we're in serious trouble.
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  Speaker 7: Who is running the country like, I don't know who
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  Speaker 7: put the paper in from him, but he didn't know.
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  Speaker 3: We're in serious trouble. Indeed, if these allegations prove true,
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  Speaker 3: it means that every executive order, every pardon, every official
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  Speaker 3: act of the president over the last four years could
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  Speaker 3: be constitutionally void. But the first lot of issues the
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  Speaker 3: Trump administration wants to address is those pardons, because of
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  Speaker 3: course he pardoned a lot of people that the Trump
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  Speaker 3: administration would very much like to prosecute. So here's Trump
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  Speaker 3: addressing that a board Air Force one.
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  Speaker 8: So I follow up on the line and the autoped
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  Speaker 8: Are those executive orders those part ins from the former president? Now, Nolan, Well,
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  Speaker 8: I think, so let's start my decision.
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  Speaker 1: That'll be up to a court.
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  Speaker 8: But I would say that there nullin one because I'm
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  Speaker 8: sure Biden didn't have any idea that it would take
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  Speaker 8: you place. And somebody who was using an autoped to
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  Speaker 8: sign off and to give pardons to as an example,
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  Speaker 8: just one example, but the j six Unselect Committee they.
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  Speaker 1: Gave think of it, they gave parts with an atopen.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Biden knew anything about it.
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  Speaker 3: He took to truth Social to make this post. The
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  Speaker 3: pardons that sleepy Joe Biden gave to the Unselect Committee
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  Speaker 3: of political thugs and many others I hereby declared void, vacant,
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  Speaker 3: and of no further force or effect because of the
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  Speaker 3: fact they were done by autopen who knew nothing about them,
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  Speaker 3: and the people that did may have committed a crime. Therefore,
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  Speaker 3: those on the Unselect Committee who destroyed and deleted all
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  Speaker 3: evidence obtained during their two year witch hunt of me
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  Speaker 3: and many other innocent people should fully understand that they
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  Speaker 3: are subject to investigation.
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  Speaker 4: At the highest level.
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  Speaker 3: And indeed, we have Missouri Attorney General and many others
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  Speaker 3: now writing into the Department of Justice saying, you guys
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  Speaker 3: have to do a thorough investigation. We have to get
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  Speaker 3: to the bottom of this because the implications are unspeakably huge.
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  Speaker 3: To give you an idea of how rare it is
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  Speaker 3: for a president to sign off on legislation and executive
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  Speaker 3: order a pardon anything using an auto pen. The first
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  Speaker 3: president to do so was Barack Obama, who was on
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  Speaker 3: holiday at the time in Hawaii, and in order to
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  Speaker 3: do so, he relied on a thirty page dossi era
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  Speaker 3: of information that George President George Bush's legal team had
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  Speaker 3: done up for him to validate the fact that, yes,
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  Speaker 3: he was signing it, but he wasn't signing it in person.
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  Speaker 3: That's how rare this is. So to find out that
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  Speaker 3: this was the prevalence of it during those entire four
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  Speaker 3: years is to say alarming, is a massive understatement.
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  Speaker 6: It is absolutely shocking, And I think the worst part
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  Speaker 6: of all of this is the way that the media
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  Speaker 6: in America tried to cover up this entire sham of
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  Speaker 6: a presidency. People were asking questions. Trump was asking questions
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  Speaker 6: throughout those entire four years, and the left wing media
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  Speaker 6: continually came out. They would post edited interviews with Biden,
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  Speaker 6: they would do everything they could to cover up and
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  Speaker 6: avoid scrutiny.
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  Speaker 5: But this is the thing. Biden, over his.
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  Speaker 6: Entire four years as president, only held nine full cabinets
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  Speaker 6: over four years. So there was an intentional strategy by
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  Speaker 6: his inner circle, his close aids that had been with
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  Speaker 6: him for years. They were loyal to him. There was
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  Speaker 6: an intentional strategy from them to avoid any scrutiny or
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  Speaker 6: anyone else outside of their little bubble from noticing the
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  Speaker 6: president's decline in mental state. Now, I just think how
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  Speaker 6: undemocratic is that you elect a president to represent you,
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  Speaker 6: and in America even more so because you directly elect
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  Speaker 6: Joe Biden to be the president of the United States,
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  Speaker 6: only to now find out that for the last four years,
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  Speaker 6: we actually have no idea who has been running the
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  Speaker 6: most powerful country in the world. And not only that,
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  Speaker 6: there's been a strategy to cover up the fact that
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  Speaker 6: the president is literally senile. So I just think this
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  Speaker 6: throws the entire country of the United States into complete
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  Speaker 6: chaos because what happens to yes, the pardons, but also
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  Speaker 6: every single executive order, Like where does the law stand
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  Speaker 6: right now? We need some legal scholars on here now
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  Speaker 6: to interpret this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the question is not whether or not an
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  Speaker 2: autopen was used, who was using the auto exactly?
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  Speaker 1: And I get the idea of an autopen.
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  Speaker 2: I suppose a president must sign hundreds and hundreds and
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  Speaker 2: hundreds of documents. It be difficult to do, not to
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  Speaker 2: mention inefficient, but when you've got problems with mental cognition
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  Speaker 2: and question marks over that seem to be the height
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  Speaker 2: of foolishness to use an auto pen when people are
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  Speaker 2: questioning your mental acuity, because you're going to open yourself
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  Speaker 2: up to charges such as Trump has made. Now, The
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  Speaker 2: New York Post wrote a very interesting editorial arguing that
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  Speaker 2: Trump should leave this alone. They said, Trump's doing so well,
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  Speaker 2: he's getting the country behind him, and this just reeks
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  Speaker 2: of Trump trying to settle personal vendettas area. I do
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  Speaker 2: think that's a bit unwise by the New York Post
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  Speaker 2: because this isn't a matter of personal vendettas, though I
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  Speaker 2: don't think Trump is above that. It's a matter of justice,
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  Speaker 2: it's a matter of accountability, and it's a matter of governance.
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  Speaker 2: But talk about a can of worms. This isn't just
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  Speaker 2: about the January sixth committee. This is about every decision
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden ever signed off on. As Trump said in
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  Speaker 2: that grab that we watched, it will end up in
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  Speaker 2: court because Trump doesn't have the power himself to make
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  Speaker 2: all of those pardons null and void. It would have
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  Speaker 2: to go to the Supreme Court. Whether or not they
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  Speaker 2: want to take that on and open up that can
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  Speaker 2: of worms be a very interesting thing.
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  Speaker 6: But my question for that is, if it did end
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  Speaker 6: up in the Supreme Court, could Joe Biden actually testify
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  Speaker 6: that he was aware or is he too senile as
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  Speaker 6: he was found earlier to even be in testifying about
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  Speaker 6: his own cognitive ability while he was signing.
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  Speaker 1: These Wait, did he sign off on the US Supreme
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  Speaker 1: Court justices?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? My god, we don't know anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they should be there.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know what anymore.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: Well, look, thankfully some countries do have their head screwed on,
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: and one of those seems to be hungry. The Hungarian President,
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Victor Auburn has announced an income tax exemption for mothers
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: of two and three children and said he would cap
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: interest rates on housing loans at five percent. Now, this
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: is they're heading into this national election, but I personally
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: think there's a lot of merit in these ideas.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: Let's check it out.
• 18:56
  Speaker 9: Actually, we are launching the largest tax cut in Europe
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: and indeed the entire Western world. With this, we are
• 19:02
  Speaker 9: opening a new chapter in the history of the Hungarian economy.
• 19:06
  Speaker 9: We are creating the world's first family centered economy. Mothers
• 19:10
  Speaker 9: with one child will be exempt from income tax until
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: the age of thirty, while mothers with two or more
• 19:15
  Speaker 9: children will never pay income tax again. Even by the
• 19:19
  Speaker 9: modest standards, this is a global sensation. With this, we
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: are securing the future of Hungarian families for decades to come.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: In early twenty twenty two, the global fertility rate fell
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: below replacement rate. That means around the world we are
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: not having enough children to replace ourselves. In developed countries,
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: it's even worse. Every single developed country has a fertility
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: rate below replacement rate except for Israel. Even India is
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: now at a sub replacement rate fertility level. Now, the
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: problem with this is that when you have a declining
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: word population, the age dependency ratio shifts, so more young
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: people have to support a whole lot more old people.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: A lot of countries like Australia will look to migration
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: to fix this. Well, let's just bring in more people
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: and we can boost our population that way. But those
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: migrants also get old and after one or two generations
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: they tend to have the same amount of children as
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: the country that they're now in, so sub replacement level
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: fertility again. One country that is taking this into their
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: own hands is Hungry, and I think this is exactly
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: this sort of thing we need to be looking at
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: in Australia because the challenge for women, particularly and all
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: families in Australia is that one it is extremely expensive
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: to have children, but two it's not something that is
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: valued by our society. The extent of family policy is
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: childcare subsidies, which effectively says to women, pump out a baby,
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: ship them off to institutional care and get that to work.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: That is not what a lot of women want. They
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: want choice in how they raise their children. So I
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: think this is something we need to be looking at.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: What do you guys think.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Well, the Prime Minister of Hungary said, we want to
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: leave our country to our children, not to foreigners. And
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: as you said, if you're not going to produce your
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: own children, then you've got to import other people. Because
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the welfare state is premised on the fact that you
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: will have enough young to support the old. Hungry have
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: tried various measures. They've offered interest free loans to families
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: with children, housing subsidies, they offered tax exemptions to mothers
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: with four or more children. Now it's mothers of two
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: or three children will get all one child.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Also until you're thirty If you have one child, your
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: tax exempt.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: It's for the rest of your life. If it's two
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: or three children.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I should point out the Prime Minister of Hungary's got
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: five children himself, so he's leading by example. Their birth
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: rate's been falling since the nineteen seventies. As mark Stein says,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: demography is destiny. If you don't address this one way,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: then your country disappears. And this is probably the biggest
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: story I think of our time, that what's happening in Europe.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: You're not allowed that. You've got to be very careful
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: talking about it because it's such a fraught subject.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: But it is the big story because Europe will cease
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: to be Europe if it's just full of different people.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: So whether it's Italy or Hungary or Austria, they need
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: to produce their own children if they want to keep
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: their own culture as we know it, otherwise it will
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: become something different. Hungry have decided we want to leave
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: our country to our children, so we'll offer incentives. I
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: think it's a great move, but.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Isn't it sad that this is being heralded as the
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: world first, family first economy. Shouldn't every economy, especially in
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: the Western world, which is fighting for survival. As we
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: know it, shouldn't every economy be family first. It doesn't
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: take a rocket scientist to know. We've always known the
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: new clear family is the building block of any functioning,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: certainly flourishing society. You prioritize healthy families and the state
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: becomes less and less depended on because families meet their
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: own needs as people look after people, and that translates
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: to childcare, that translates to elderly care when the grandparents
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: are too old to look after themselves and maybe require
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: someone around the house. If you prioritize families a lot
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: of things. Just take care of themselves as they did
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: previous decades when the state didn't look after half of that,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: and we're all perfectly fine. I absolutely love this move.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: It should be this is so simple. Yeah, And it
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: should also be said that this is on top of
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: his government already announcing a doubling of income tax benefits
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: to families, and not only that, he's capped housing low
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: the interest rate on housing loans in Hungary at five percent.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: If you make life affordable, people will have children. Healthy
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: flourishing couples one to have children. It is simply in
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: societies like ours, where everyone's like, heck, we're renting, we
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: can We'll.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Never scrape together enough for a deposit. They're scared to
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: have children.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: If they had the money, they'd be like, okay, yeah,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: let's go. But it's the fact that no governments have
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: prioritized this to the extent that they ought that we
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: see this is like, oh, this is just revolutionary. This
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: ought to be the ABC's of government.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: What you've just said comports with studies that have been
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: done in Europe as to why our birth rates so low,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: and the number one reason is economic pressure. People are
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: concerned if we have children, how are we going to
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: be able to afford them.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: The other three were interesting.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Environmental concerns was a reason why the birth rates are
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: so low in Europe, And of course we've been bother
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: we don't mind if I.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Don't have children about you know, relive yourselves from the
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: gene pool.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: If that's how you're going to raise.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Your well, I mean, people seriously believe if you have
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: a child, you are contributing to global warming, so we're
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: better off not having children. Evolving social norms was another
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: one where you've got the demonization of the family unit.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: In favor of other models. And the final one was
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: the intense focus on individual autonomy, that it's transformed from
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: not about family or the future, but all about the
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: here and now, what I.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Want for my life.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I don't want to make any sacrifices, so there's a
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: bit to overcome.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I love the prevalence of that third one, though, these
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: social norms that a lot of people are like, I
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: don't think I want my kids subjected to all the
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: stuff that I'm currently struggling to deal with in a
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: modern day society that we're pummeled with every single day.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Because Victor Auburn, this guy is so based. If you
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: get a chance, check him out, because this guy outwardly
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: overtly talks about the fact that for fifteen years his
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: government has been slammed by what he refers to as
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: the Soros Empire, the liberal globalists, the Brussels bureaucrats. He's like,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: they've thrown money at us, they've thrown threads at us,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: they've thrown blackmail at us. But we have prevailed in
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: keeping Hungry to Hungary, and this is how it's done.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: He says that quote, this is the battle for the
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: soul of the Western world quote, and they're seeking to
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: replace Europe's people and raise our Christian values. Would in
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: you trade your two front teeth for a leader in
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Australia who talks like that.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about leadership in Australia. Because Peter Dutton
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: announced a new well I'm not sure if he announced
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: the new policy or not.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: He was a little bit sort of wishy washy on it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: It sounds good if he's going to do it, but
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: who would know. The idea is that he would hold
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: a referendum like we need another one to change the
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: constitution giving politicians the power to revoke Australian citizenship for
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: criminals who have dual citizenship. Here he is on morning
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: television sort of proposing what might be a policy.
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: We can do as much as we can by legislation,
• 27:19
  Speaker 10: but as they say, you can't out legislate the constitution.
• 27:22
  Speaker 10: What we're proposing here is a discussion about whether we've
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: got adequate laws, whether the constitution is restrictive. If you
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: want to keep your kids safe, and we want to
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: keep kids safe in our community, then I don't think
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: you can put a.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Price on that.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Now, current laws do allow someone's citizenship to be revoked
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: if they commit a serious crime. The problem is that
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two the High Court rule that a
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: minister can't revoke someone's Australian citizenship because that would be
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: seen as punitive or as punishment, and that's a role
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: for courts, not for politicians. Hence Peter Dutton is starting
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: a conversation. I'm not sure why you start a conversation
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: six weeks out from an election.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: You either do it or you don't.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: But he's started a conversation about whether or not we
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: should change the constitution to deal with this issue. As
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: you can imagine, Anthony Albaneze had a field day.
• 28:13
  Speaker 11: Well, this is another thought bubble from Peter Dutton that
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: hasn't made it to lunchtime. This morning you had Peter
• 28:20
  Speaker 11: Dutton on one TV channel calling for a referendum, Mecaalia
• 28:24
  Speaker 11: Cash on another TV channel ruling it out. This has
• 28:28
  Speaker 11: not been thought through. There is not clear where this
• 28:32
  Speaker 11: has come from. Peter Dutton wants to talk about anything
• 28:35
  Speaker 11: but cost of living.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Can I just say it's a little bit rich of
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Anthony Albanesi and his Treasurer Jim Chalmers to say Peter
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Dutton wants to talk about anything except cost of living
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: when they spent most of last week talking about a wombat.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: So good on you for that.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: As for a thought bubble, well at least it's a thought.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure Elbaneze he's had one of those bubble
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: or not for a long time.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: He went on to say Liz that Peter Dutton's trying
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: to divide public. Well, exactly, that's the point.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Of deporting people who keepit crimes. You divide them from
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: the rest of the Australian population. And again for Anthony Albernezi,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: who proposed a referendum to divide Australians by race, to
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: now accuse Peter Dutton of dividing Australians because he wants
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: to remove criminal elements from our country is a little
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: bit rich.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I actually think it's a good idea. I'm in favor
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I just wish Peter Dutton would nail his colors to
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the mast and say this is what we will do,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: or don't talk about it. But to start, what does
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: it even mean to start a conversation?
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think he hit the nail on
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: the head unwittingly in contradicting himself when he said in
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: that crab we.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Can do as much as we can using legislation. Yeah,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: but you haven't.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: You haven't look at the detainee debarcle. You guys can't
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: even deport people who came here illegally committed crimes.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Got released about.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Rapists and murderers, not low level like oh they robbed
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: a granny of her coffee money. No, no, you won't
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: send those people back to their country of origin. I
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: think this is a nothing burger because when we see
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: those headlines of people committing these heinous crimes here in Australia,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: they're not dual citizenships anyway, They're not well citizens.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: We just own them like they're our citizens. They go
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: in our jails, end of story.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: That's our problem, that is our circus, that is our monkeys.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: But these dual citizenships, who's he talking about?
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: When we read those headlines on a weekly basis and
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: discuss in detail this person should be sent home. We're
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: not talking about duel citizens. So I don't even know
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: who he's talking about in this dual citizen category that
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: we'd spend half a billion dollars to have a referendum on.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: And when you talk about, oh you can only do
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: so much with legislation. How about you exhaust that first,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: because right now none of the legislation around this is
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: working for us as a nation. It desperately needs to
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: be amended. You guys haven't even tried that on. It
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: ought to be exhausted before you spend half a billion
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: dollars sending us to the polls for a referendum.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: I have a few thoughts on that, Liz. I mean, firstly,
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: there are ways you can do referendums that don't cost
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: half a billion dollars. You could just add this as
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: a question to a normal election and you could do.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: It that way.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: You'd have to have bipartisan support for that, which is
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: never going.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: To guess so well, that is one way you could
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: do it. I mean, secondly, I think it's good that.
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: Dutton is even putting forward ways to deal with our
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: immigration crisis.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: It's better than Albo.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: It's under their watch that we saw over one hundred
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: hardened criminals released into the community because the High Court
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: decided that it was unconstitutional to indefinitely hold people into tention.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: And in that case that you're referring, it's.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Not dules but not or nothing.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: But that's the thing that was not a case of
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: legislation failing. That was a case of legislation falling afoul
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: of the Constitution because you can't indefinitely detain people. This
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: is the problem you come up against with migration. With
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: ministerial power. There are a lot of guard rails that
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: the Constitution has on what ministers can actually do.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: I think the smartest way.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: I totally see the problem that Dutton is trying to solve,
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: which is that we do have criminals in this country
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: that are deal citizens committing crimes. Why should we spend
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: hundreds of thousands of dollars a year housing them in
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: our first world prisons when they should just frankly get
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: sent back to where they've come from. That is a
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: very fair point. I think the probably the more strategic
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: way he could handle this is by amending the legislation
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: in the Citizenship Act so that it's not the minister
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: that deports or cancels the citizenship of these criminals, but
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: you lower the threshold at which the High Court, which
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: the Court could do that. So you say, for any
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: offense which involves you know, a prison term of over
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: one year, for example, which is significantly lower than what
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: it currently is. The Core could decide to strip you
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: your citizenship. We don't need a referendum for that. I
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: do think maybe this was just a media sort of moment,
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: but there are ways you could do this, and I
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: think he's onto something and most Australians would support tougher action.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, do you think people
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: would be warm totally? I think they would be. People
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: recognize the problems and as you pointed out this, look,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you've had sorts of stuff ups from this current government
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: with regards to people who aren't citizens.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: And he's capitalizing on that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Everyone's sick of that. He's capitalizing on that. I just
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: wish you'd be strong on it. Don't make a thought bubble,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: make a policy.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Well, the fact that it was a thought bubble was
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: made abundantly clear when, as Elbow pointed out in that
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: video we just showed you, Dunn's own Attorney General, Makalia Cash,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: was minutes later being like, yeah, no, this isn't a thing.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: So if this was a grab for votes, may it
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: sound like something's awesome?
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Then that fell over really really quickly.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: It sounded like he hadn't even discussed it with the
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: party room, mate, try it on with legislation first. You
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: can do better by us as a nation without sending.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Us off to a referendum.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: To another issue that we're seeing grow in greater and
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: greater prevalence here in Australia, and that is the question
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: of over diagnoses of children, whether it's with autism adhd
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: add The numbers in Australia have shot through the roof
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: in recent years, prompting experts to now say, look, are
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: these conditions as prevalent as the money we're out putting
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: into these, especially by the NDAs, into these issues. Are
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: they growing more prevalent or are people simply more aware
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: of them and taking the government for a ride in
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: terms of becoming a cash cow. Some of the latest
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: stat out of the ABS, which is a little bit
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: old now but will still be absolutely hair raising. It's
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: the first time you've heard of it. According to the ABS,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: there were two hundred and ninety thousand, nine hundred all
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: these with autism back in twenty twenty two, which was
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: a forty one point eight percent rise on the numbers
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: from the latest ABS statistics back in just twenty and eighteen.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, that is mind blowing. How on Earth.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Do we get an over forty percent increase in just
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: four years time.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: It's unthinkable.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: The same goes with adhd add The numbers are hair
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: curling and according to a really comprehensive study done by
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: A and U just last year, Australia's autism rates are
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: among the highest in the world. So for me personally,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I look at stats like this, I look at numbers
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: like this, I look at the concerns being expressed by
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: these experts and I say, look whether people are taking
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: the government for a ride? And I do find it
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: hard to believe that that many parents would be doing
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: so knowing that their kid isn't unwell, but just heading
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: up the government for some cash. Where are the studies
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: being done on why these numbers are going through the roof?
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: In America, we have the Make Australia, Make America Healthy
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Again movement vowed to look into this. Is that if
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: we win the election, we are going to look into
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: why these rates are also rising exponentially in our populations.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: We just don't seem to have anyone remotely interested here.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare have said that
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: one in seven Australian children aged four to seventeen have
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: experienced a mental health issue, which is quite extraordinary, and
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: as a parent of kids, it's a difficult time to
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  Speaker 2: raise kids. I think the world is far more complicated
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  Speaker 2: now mainly because of this then when I grew up,
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  Speaker 2: So I can understand that kids would be having challenges,
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  Speaker 2: but not to the extent that we're seeing. And at
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: the same time, you've got parenting which has undergone a
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  Speaker 2: transformation which is more child centered, where we try and
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  Speaker 2: empower the child, and with that goes the whole trying
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  Speaker 2: to protect them from every ill and every ailment. And
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: so instead of teaching resilience and teaching them you know what,
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  Speaker 2: you can fall over, you can skin, you know you're
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  Speaker 2: going to be all right, we're trying to protect them
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  Speaker 2: from everything, and we assume it must be a pathological
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  Speaker 2: problem rather than just a behavioral exactly.
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  Speaker 6: And I think there are a lot of incentives to
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  Speaker 6: find a diagnosis for your child. In fact, in so
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  Speaker 6: many areas we've pathologized behavior, so that if my child's
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: playing up, oh no, it can't be because they're a
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  Speaker 6: naughty kid. It's definitely because they've got something else.
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  Speaker 1: And that because of your parenting.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 6: If you're a parent, it is much easier to live
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  Speaker 6: with yourself if you just tell yourself that your child
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  Speaker 6: has some sort of disorder, rather than some sort of
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  Speaker 6: disorder parenting.
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  Speaker 2: Which makes parenting incredibly complicated because you're trying to work out, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: is this an issue that I need to go and
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  Speaker 2: seek professional help or is a behavioral issue that I've
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  Speaker 2: got to address with discipline and that can be a
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  Speaker 2: real nightmare for appearents.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to take a break.
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  Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: including the Victorian Premier just sent to Allen in all
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: sorts of trouble over allegations regarding the sacking of top police.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll look at that and more in just a moment. Okay,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: let's take a look what's making headlines tomorrow. Liz will
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  Speaker 2: start with the Canberra Times.
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  Speaker 3: What a rarity the Canberra Times recruitment rates wholly deficient,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: says minister. We're talking about the ADF tell us something.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know.
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  Speaker 3: The company in charge of turning around Australia's moribund defense
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  Speaker 3: recruitment rates was told by the responsible Minister, its performance
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  Speaker 3: was quote not satisfactory end quote, and targeted recruitment rates
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  Speaker 3: were wholly deficient. Less than a year from taking on
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: the one point four billion dollar contract, The Camera Times
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  Speaker 3: has obtained correspondence between Defense Personnel Minister Matt Keoh and
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Swiss recruitment giant a Deco, exposing the depths to which
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: the relationship had sunk. Now we know that the ADF
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: actually did receive sixty four thousand applications just last year.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: That sounds incredibly impressive, doesn't it. But less than one
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: in ten is getting accepted, and so obviously applicants are like, well,
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: excuse me. Now Australians, much to their shock, are reminded
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: that this really really important job. Hello, we need to
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: get our numbers up. Times are perilous. Nobody's joining Our
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: defense force was outsourced to a Swiss company, And then
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: we wonder why maybe they didn't care enough to do
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: a good enough job.
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  Speaker 2: The Swiss company basically had two KPIs. They said they
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: would recruit ten thousand or thereabouts new soldiers. They say,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: now it'll be about seven thousand. So they've only met
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: seventy percent of their target and the other KPI was
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: they would within one hundred days take someone from application
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: to enlistment. They're now saying, oo, it'll be more like
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty days. But what really gets me is,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: as you pointed out, they've been told their performance is
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: not satisfactory and wholly deficient, and then their contract's been
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: extended by another six months.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: Indeed, peak government bureaucery exactly right there. I mean, we
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: have not hit a single defense force recruitment target since
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: I think about nineteen ninety six, and the average time
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: it takes to process and application is over a year.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: People have moved on with.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: Their lives in over a year, so it's no wonder
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: people are applying, but they're not actually joining the defense
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: force because who would wait around for that long. But
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: in the Herald Sun, we've also got some interesting headlines.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: Corruption bombshell. Acted deputy police chief accuses premier, minister and
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: new top cop of conspiracy, misconduct and retribution in explosive
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: iback claim. Premier just sin to Allen and Police Minister
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: Anthony Carmines and Acting Chief Commissioner Rick Nugget have been
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: accused of corruption and misconduct in public office over the
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: acting of the states to top cops, at what point
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: will Victorian labor reach a point of no return? How
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: many more corruption scandals can they possibly have? The CFMU
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: earlier this week, Now the top cops go and iback like,
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: is this just it's reaching fast levels?
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: And this is bad for sin to Ellen of course,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: because the crime crisis is the number one issue in
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Victoria and she has been like an Olympic gymnastream backflip
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: after backflip with tougher bail laws, banning machettes. For her
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: now to be accused of having dealt wrongly with the
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: former Commissioner Shane Patton, especially when it was revealed the
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: other week that Shane Patten, shortly before he was removed,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: had proposed tougher bail laws and been told can't afford it,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: not enough room in prisons. Then he's out the door,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: presumably because there was a vote of no confidence by
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: police officers. That was the reason given by the premier.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: But now of course you've got the former deputy commissioner
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: saying no, no, no, there was something else going on.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: This is just bad on every level for Jacinta Allen.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: But one quick thing is before we get to the Australian.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I remember last night we're talking about Brad Batten, the
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Victorian Liberal leader who was making the front page because
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: he said he was visiting family in Queensland went on
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: a cruise talk about the Liberal This is the headlines
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: that the Liberals want on the front page, not their
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: own stupid squabbles.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: So they glad to have the spotlight back on the Alan.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Government where it should be, Yeah, should be.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They're like, yep, please keep magging us look good.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: No more of those front pages about us, Thank you
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: very much to the Australia Now where the biggest splash
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: reads keeping coal state seas Light. One of Australia's biggest
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: coal power stations in Victoria's Latrobe Valley, is set to
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: stay open for four more years, amid fears of devastating
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: electricity shortages. In an extraordinary u turn for the State
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Labor Government's renewable energy only blueprint, a decision to keep
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: coal in the power system for longer underscores Australia's volatile
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: transmission from fossil fuels to green power, Even as Federal
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Minister Federal Energy Minister rather Chris Bowen insisted a move
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: to double the amount of renewable energy by the end
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: of the decade remained on track. Mate, when you're going
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: to give up on that line, nobody is agreeing with you,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: and they're the ones running the energy companies, so nobody's
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: listening to you anymore. And when Victor, the most devoted
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: state in the country to your renewable energy's dream, dominated
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: by labor left, is actually turning around and saying, so
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: we're going to have to keep the call up and
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: running for an extra four years.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Watch that drag out.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: By the way, let's replay this clip in four years
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: and see if it's been closed by then. You can
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: beat your bottom dollar. They'll be extending it once more.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I love this call is unreliable and unaffordable and we're
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: going to need it for a lot longer.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: And then put those two things together.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: The other thing in Tomorrow's Australian there's a story hidden
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: away that five solar farms in regional Victoria have been
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: told to shut down because of bushfire risks.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: So you've got these two stories in the paper Tomorrow.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Coal extended for at least another two three four years
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: in Victoria, while solar farms, which are supposed to be
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: supplying all the power are ordered to be switched off
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: because of bushfire Risksen just would be loving this.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: I know. And to make matters worse for labor.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: We read also on the front page of the Australian
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: debt blowout worst in developed world. Australia has recorded the
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: sharpest increase in public debt in the developed world, with
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: government liabilities as a proportion of national output growing almost
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: fourfold over the past two decades. Of course, we can't
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: blame them for a fourfold increase after that many decades,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: but they're the ones holding the corn shell while.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: This is making the news.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: It's not a good look when you're looking at an
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: election in just a matter of months.
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: Now, yeah, well, that's what happens when you spend an
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: extra three hundred and forty seven billion dollars.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: What do you know? The budget blows out.
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: But over in the bulletin, a council puts a pin
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: in jumping castles. There is a ban on bouncing. Townsville
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: Council has taken the extraordinary step of banning jumping castles
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: in council hearts and venues in response to changes made
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: by the state's Safety Watchdog, but Townsville amusement rides operator
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: says local businesses were blindsided by the move, labeling it
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: un Australian. I cannot tell you how many birthday parties
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: I had on a jumping parcel. I think it is
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: outrageous that the kids in Townsville will not get to
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: experience that.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was one terrible accident some years ago
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: which is an absolute tragedy.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: But surely the answer is not to ban it.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: As it appears the Townshill Council have done in response.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: The answer is to have good safety regulations and make
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: sure people do the right thing.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Let the kids bounce. We're going to go to a commercial.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Break, but when we come back a Melbourne council bans
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: people from attending. Of course, they're the people that are
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: paying the rates. Talk about that in the moment.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Last month the Melbourne Council in Casey had to have
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: police escort councilors from the chamber after local residents boom,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: shouted and swore at them over land permits, which require
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: people to pay to store their own vehicles on their
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: own properties. Here's what happened at that meeting last month.
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: The council meeting.
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  Speaker 12: Will resume at seven point thirty five. We'll all councilors
• 47:26
  Speaker 12: and staff vacate the council chamber for ten minutes under
• 47:29
  Speaker 12: Clause seventy nine of the City of Casey Governance Rules.
• 47:32
  Speaker 12: I'm adjourning this meeting tonight and it will resume at
• 47:35
  Speaker 12: a date to be determined. We'll all counselors and staff
• 47:39
  Speaker 12: vacate the council chamber.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: So what do you do when local ratepayers aren't happy
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: and they behave like that at a council meeting? Where
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: you move the next council meeting online so ratepayers don't
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: get to attend at all. These councilors list have completely
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: forgotten the ratepayers are paying their salari sool then and
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: they're hiding from.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Just get rid of the people you were unhappy with
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: your performance.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: It's that easy.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Well, today, Carolyn Levitt, Press Secretary for the White House,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: was asked what she was going to do about a
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: request from a random French MP to return the Statue
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: of Liberty.
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: There is now a member of the European Parliament from
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: France who does not think the US represents the values
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: of the Statue of Liberty anymore.
• 48:24
  Speaker 10: They want the Statue of Liberty back.
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: So is President Trump going to send the Statute of Liberty.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Back to France?
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Absolutely not.
• 48:33
  Speaker 13: And my advice to that unnamed, low level French politician
• 48:38
  Speaker 13: would be to remind them that it's only because of
• 48:41
  Speaker 13: the United States of America that the French are not
• 48:44
  Speaker 13: speaking German right now, so they should be very grateful
• 48:47
  Speaker 13: to our great country.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: She clearly hasn't read New York Times bestseller church Hill
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Hitler and the Unnecessary War How Britain Lost its Empire
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: and the West Lost the World. Highly recommend it. But
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: you thought it was a cool comeback, didn't your mack?
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a great burn I haven't read
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: guy edition. I mean, you'd hate to be that guy
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: who absolutely got burned.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: She does a great job. She's a good White House secretary.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: She's so good.
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: But that's just the Europeans for you at the moment,
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: always complaining, always winging, and then requesting America to rescue them.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Iconic friend, that's.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: All we've got time for stick around. Coming up is
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Therena Penny Show. Good Night