Latest / Sports Avenue Twisted Podcast / Episode 76 feat. Jake McKeever - SEC Baseball Rankings, Top SEC Players, MLB Prospects
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- 0:25Welcome to another edition of the Sports Ave.
- 0:27Twisted podcast. We have a returning guest in
- 0:30here and it's one of our favorites and he hasn't been
- 0:33here in a while and it's I'm glad that he's back and he he
- 0:37covered the SEC and some other college baseball stuff for the
- 0:40College Baseball Central. Jake McKeever, welcome back.
- 0:44It's an honor for you to have you on again.
- 0:46Thanks for having me, guys. You know, I always love talking
- 0:48prospects with you all. You know, Sports Ave.
- 0:51It's been great. I actually listen to it, my
- 0:53friends do it. So I'm actually kind of glad to
- 0:55be back. I mean, it's exciting stuff.
- 0:58Thanks for joining us. We're excited to have you back
- 1:01as well. So, you know, we're excited to
- 1:04learn about what's going on with the baseball, college baseball
- 1:09stuff and the and the SEC in general and heading towards next
- 1:15month's playoffs tournament. Yeah, next month's tournament.
- 1:21So yeah, thanks for joining us, man.
- 1:23Of course, man, there's always kind of late risers that come on
- 1:25in the tournament. It feels like if, if you will,
- 1:28it's like, you know, I'd hate to use the Masters because it's
- 1:30already behind us. But you know, the draft doesn't
- 1:33really start till kind of first week of June.
- 1:35Like, I mean, think of all the the risers that we've had the
- 1:37last few years, like Eli Willits was in the top 25 and then he
- 1:42went number one overall. So it's just exciting stuff
- 1:45right now. Yeah, it's it's so unpredictable
- 1:49like with these rankings because they fluctuate by the time, like
- 1:52I remember, so we're Rob and I are Jays fans.
- 1:55I remember that Jamie Arnold was projected to be AJ at #9 and
- 2:00then at that change and they and they ended up drafting JoJo
- 2:04Parker and I believe his brother Jacob Parker is now committed
- 2:07Mississippi. He's been raked too, right?
- 2:09So. Yes, I mean, even somebody like
- 2:11blame Bullard, who like I remember talking to him coaches
- 2:15and they were like convinced that he was going to be a lock.
- 2:18Like we don't have to worry about it.
- 2:19And then he gets drafted and the Blue Jays said his number and
- 2:22you know he's sitting leadoff down in Dundate.
- 2:25Yeah, and, and The thing is he got a record setting bonus and
- 2:28man, as advertised, he's been really good with that Donini
- 2:33team is very interested. But yeah, we could get this
- 2:36started here. So let's let's let's talk about
- 2:39the top 25 prospects and how you guys felt like ranking these
- 2:44team. And obviously UCLA best team in
- 2:48baseball right now. You know, the way they're
- 2:50playing there, they're playing at all levels go Georgia Tech,
- 2:54North Carolina has come out of nowhere.
- 2:56And then and then you talk about Georgia, Texas, there's a lot of
- 2:59SEC teams, but talk about the rankings and which teams kind of
- 3:05surprise you that, you know, ended up being a top ranking
- 3:09team. I think for me, I mean, it
- 3:11really does start at the top with UCLA.
- 3:13I mean, I wouldn't say they're underrated because they were the
- 3:15preseason #1 but I mean, you have somebody like Rock
- 3:18Chalowski, who's probably one of the best college bats we've
- 3:22seen. This is probably Adly Richmond.
- 3:25And I would even argue that he's a better fielder than batter.
- 3:29I mean, just the things that he's able to do from an approach
- 3:31standpoint, what he does in the field, you know how vocal he is.
- 3:37And then just going around the diamond, Roman Martin's another
- 3:39guy. It's going to be probably a
- 3:41first rounder. He he hits the absolute cover
- 3:43off the ball. And then Louvu at first is
- 3:46another kind of really athletic first baseman.
- 3:49And then second base, I know Phoenix Call is played there.
- 3:51And then they have another freshman that they feel really
- 3:52good about. But I mean, they have 4 short
- 3:56stops that play in the infield. And then they have Gasparino
- 3:59who's again kind of shooting up boards.
- 4:01He's a what, 65 guy that hits double digit home runs in
- 4:04college. Oregon State's I think another
- 4:06one that's really kind of underrated.
- 4:08They have a Dax Whitney, who I got to see when they played
- 4:10Lamar, who is just a horse, like in every sense of the word.
- 4:16Like, you know, he threw pitch 9898 miles an hour.
- 4:19He's got really good feel for three pitches and then behind
- 4:22anything, Kleinschmidt's really, really good too as well.
- 4:25I'm not sure they really have the bats, but they've kind of
- 4:28surprised me because I know I saw him in Round Rock and they
- 4:31looked absolutely terrible. George is another one that's
- 4:34really, really good. They're hitting the absolute
- 4:36cover off the ball. And then A&M in Texas right
- 4:38behind them. I know everybody was kind of
- 4:40sleeping on A&M, which I thought was really, really interesting
- 4:43because I mean, they have three guys that are probably going to
- 4:45go in the first round. They have the Copian, Grijovic
- 4:49and then Kaden Sorrell, and then they have 3 freshmen.
- 4:53Like I was pulling the list for 2028 and Nico Partitas projected
- 4:57to go 11. I mean, it's just a phenomenal,
- 4:59phenomenal hitting team. Grijovic, I think it's going to
- 5:02just absolutely shoot up lists about coming back from his hand
- 5:05injury. You know, SEC Player of the week
- 5:07last week. He's a 63230 guy that's an elite
- 5:11first baseman. He can play 87 positions in the
- 5:14field. You know, he has really good arm
- 5:17strength and I think his athleticism I think is really,
- 5:20really good too as well. Obviously he's got to work on
- 5:22some of his fielding and stuff like that.
- 5:24But I mean, I saw somebody had a mock to 105.
- 5:27Like I really, really struggle to find 104 guys that are better
- 5:31than Gavin Groovic. Like he's he's just an absolute
- 5:34tank for Texas A&M. Look at some of the standings in
- 5:39the SEC and you have Georgia, your Texas, you mentioned A&M,
- 5:44how good they are, Florida, Alabama, Ole Miss and and it's
- 5:49just a stacked division of, of teams.
- 5:51I mean, Vanderbilt's near the bottom.
- 5:53Like, I mean, how how often can you say that, right?
- 5:56And you look at, you look at it and what's really surprised you
- 6:01in this division, good or bad? I I would say one, it's how good
- 6:07the bad teams are. You know, Missouri, who was the
- 6:10absolute laughingstock of the SEC last year going 3 and 27.
- 6:14I mean, they can roll out two really, really solid arms and
- 6:17Kellen brings one of my favorites.
- 6:19And then South Carolina, you know, with their record and
- 6:21everything and you know, the coach being fired, like, I mean,
- 6:24they had a guy that went SEC pitcher of the week last week
- 6:27and you mentioned Vanderbilt down there in that 14 spot.
- 6:29Well, you know, they have the number two home runs in all of
- 6:32SEC and they've Connor Fennel who's, you know, a top 200 arm
- 6:36in the country. And then somebody like
- 6:38Tennessee, who historically has been up near the top.
- 6:42They're kind of quote UN quote bad.
- 6:44But even then, I mean, they can run out three arms.
- 6:46They have a, a solid, solid bullpen that they're kind of
- 6:49starting to figure out a little bit.
- 6:50Like, I mean, it's just a log jam right there in the middle of
- 6:53the SEC. And I mean, you can point at
- 6:55every single roster and say that guy's going to be drafted, that
- 6:58guy's going to be drafted, that guy's going to be drafted.
- 7:00So like there, there really isn't off weeks right now in the
- 7:03SEC, which, you know, makes for a really, really great
- 7:05competition. It feels like, you know, the 3rd
- 7:08or 4th best series in the SEC is, you know, still top 25.
- 7:11I mean, there's just an insane amount of talent, which I was a
- 7:14little bit worried about because when I talked to some of the
- 7:17scouts, a lot of the agents did a really good job, I guess,
- 7:21harping on those kind of 300 to 400 range about getting them to
- 7:26sign with pro teams versus going to college.
- 7:29Because you know, the year before you had guys that were
- 7:31first round picks, you know, top picks that didn't play over
- 7:35fifth year senior. So I think that that was kind of
- 7:37the one thing I was worried about.
- 7:38And then I mean, this year is just an insane freshman class,
- 7:41you know, quarter rager at Oklahoma, Zach Cozart, Brett
- 7:45Crossland at Texas, and then Dorian Wilson, Eric Hines is
- 7:50another one in Alabama. I mean, some of these freshmen
- 7:53that are coming in at 18 years old, like really don't look like
- 7:56freshmen at all. And even just to kind of
- 7:58piggyback it off a Major League stuff like Connor Griffin
- 8:01doesn't look like a 19 year old kid.
- 8:03JoJo Parker, another guy if he doesn't really look like a 18
- 8:06year old kid. Like I mean we're in an almost
- 8:09an era like post COVID it feels like if you know 1819 year old
- 8:14kids that are built like grown men and play the game like grown
- 8:17men. Yeah, because we talked about
- 8:21the SEC, one of the toughest conferences in baseball.
- 8:25And let me ask you this. When you look at the teams out
- 8:29there, some of the teams are underwhelming.
- 8:31Like you got LSU, They're they're the reigning champs.
- 8:33They're they're off to a 69 start.
- 8:35You got Vanderbilt, who's 7 and 8, like Tennessee.
- 8:38They had Tony Patello. Now he's now he's moved on to
- 8:42become the manager of the San Francisco Giant.
- 8:44And you know, look at these programs.
- 8:47Is it more like the underwhelming factor?
- 8:50Like is it the competitiveness? Do you think it's a lack of
- 8:53talent that they're because due to the fact that these guys have
- 8:56been recruited in the draft for the years or or you think that
- 8:59there's other teams that just had a bigger recruiting pitch
- 9:02and those teams have kind of overshadowed that have taken
- 9:05over in the SEC? Well, I mean, First off, I mean,
- 9:08it's just really hard from a scheduling standpoint if you
- 9:12play in Omaha, I mean, just for for reference for your viewers,
- 9:16like the first week of June's, you know, the season is first
- 9:21round and then the portal opens that second week.
- 9:23So there's 16 teams that are still playing.
- 9:25And then there's other guys who are free to kind of recruit the
- 9:28whole time. So I mean, it's so, so hard.
- 9:31I mean, you look at somebody like Arizona, who, you know,
- 9:34granted they were in Omaha last year, they had a ton of guys
- 9:37come through that program, you know, Braden Summerhill, Mason
- 9:40White, and then they go to Omaha, they don't really recruit
- 9:45behind them And and I mean, they're absolutely abysmal this
- 9:48year. Like they're one of the worst
- 9:49teams in the Big 12. I think that really does kind of
- 9:52speak volumes to it. I mean, you mentioned LSU.
- 9:54I mean, at the end of the day, like they still have Derek
- 9:57Curiel in center field, who's going to be a top ten pick,
- 10:00Aaron Beatty behind the plates, going to be really, really
- 10:02ranked high Milo's of phenomenal, phenomenal college
- 10:05players. So I think it just kind of
- 10:07speaks more to the depth and the talent that these margins are
- 10:10so, so thin. Like Tennessee is another one.
- 10:13I mean, they're starting to figure it out a little bit in
- 10:14the bullpen. But you know, again, if some of
- 10:18these games break their way, like they could very, very
- 10:20easily be ten and five in the SEC.
- 10:23Like I mean, these margins are just so, so close.
- 10:26And then Vanderbilt, like I said, I mean, Brody Johnson's
- 10:28another high, high quality player, Riker Wade, you know,
- 10:32Mike Mancini, like they can still bang the ball around the
- 10:35yard. Obviously they they have the
- 10:37injury, but horrible right now is that they have 3 or 4
- 10:40pitchers who are done for the season.
- 10:41Like they lost their Friday guy. So you know, Wyatt NATO, who's a
- 10:45freshman, especially their midweek guy and he's not
- 10:47pitching for him on Saturday. So I think it's just the margins
- 10:50in the SEC. So so then I mean when 2 good
- 10:53teams play, one of them has to win, one of them has to lose.
- 10:58Pitching in the SEC, as you mentioned a brief when you were
- 11:02talking about the the conference overall is is is pretty, pretty
- 11:08damn stout. Like with Liam Peterson at
- 11:10Florida, I can touch 101 of my favorites in the draft, Thomas
- 11:16Valencias and Mississippi State, Tegan Coons, that Tennessee,
- 11:21Gabe Gagel, some people say he might have some of the best
- 11:24stuff in the country. So start just talk about some of
- 11:27the pitching in in the SEC overall and some guys that
- 11:32really stand out to you. Yeah, I mean, you mentioned Liam
- 11:35Peterson and Gabe Gackle, and I think that those are two guys
- 11:38that are really grinding through their seasons, if you will,
- 11:41because Gackle's moved to the bullpen, Liam Peterson's moved
- 11:44out of that Friday roll on a Saturday for Aidan King.
- 11:47But I mean, there's just so many insane, insane arms this year.
- 11:52I mean, it's it's really kind of a variety because we've seen,
- 11:55like you said, there's guys like Liam Peterson that throw 100
- 11:58miles an hour and strike guys out.
- 12:00But then there's also guys like Jake Marciano and Auburn that
- 12:03really just kind of pound the zone.
- 12:05There's there's guys like Shane Sedeo that really pound the
- 12:07zone. Dylan Volantis is another guy
- 12:10that's probably going to be coming up in 2027.
- 12:12It's going to be a top ten pick. I mean, there's old guys,
- 12:15there's new guys, there's freshmen, there's guys you just
- 12:18throw disgusting stuff. There's guys who just pound the
- 12:20zone. You know, Tegan Coons, you kind
- 12:23of mentioned him. He's another guy that's really
- 12:25kind of starting to figure it out.
- 12:26He had his best outing, actually got to see it last Saturday at
- 12:28Mississippi State because he pitched him to the 7th.
- 12:31I mean, there's a lot of guys that are have really good shapes
- 12:34that get banged around a little bit.
- 12:35And there's also a ton of guys that have just good, good stuff
- 12:39that are solid, solid pitchers. Like Matt Scott at Stanford.
- 12:42I mean, you remember him last year.
- 12:43He was supposed to be a guy that's drafted, transfers to
- 12:45Georgia, has unreal stuff. Dylan Big use another guy.
- 12:49But I mean, even somebody like I thought this was crazy.
- 12:54I saw Vanderbilt on Sunday and they ruled out a guy again at
- 12:59the end of the weekend that there's 100 miles an hour.
- 13:01Like it's just insane. You know, every single guy in
- 13:04the SEC rolls. It seems like there's a reason
- 13:07that he's there. It's just insane the amount of
- 13:11pitching that we have in the SEC right now.
- 13:15It's because of the coaches or do you think it's big recruiting
- 13:20or it's going through transfer portals?
- 13:21Because you look at the way the pitchers are, it's so highly
- 13:26competitive. And you look at the historic
- 13:28part, like you look at teams who were like, you could name guys
- 13:31who's been in SEC, for example, Bryce Miller from Texas A&M, You
- 13:36got Jared Spencer who was with Texas or Paul schemes, of
- 13:40course, right? And so on.
- 13:41So, and Vanderbilt has a rich history of pitching.
- 13:44Like it's like there's a lot of familiarity with the SEC
- 13:48pitching. Is that as a tradition with
- 13:51these coaches or it's just that it's more comfortable with the
- 13:53programs? I think it's just, you know, the
- 13:55best players want to play in front of the best crowds, get
- 13:58the best NIL. I mean, these are teams that are
- 14:01run like major leagues teams in a way.
- 14:04Like, you know, you mentioned the jump of Tony Vitello going
- 14:06to the Giants. But the flip side of that is,
- 14:07like Wes Johnson at Georgia was with the Minnesota Twins before
- 14:11he was with LSU. And there's a lot of
- 14:13familiarity. Josh Elander played in the major
- 14:15leagues. Like the scouting reports, the
- 14:17fitness, the nutrition. Like again, obviously it's
- 14:20probably never going to rival like the Major League level, but
- 14:22it's a lot closer to the Major League level than high school
- 14:25level. I mean, some of, I mean, Max
- 14:27Weiner is another guy who is a Major League guy.
- 14:29The amount of detail that they have, I mean, every single thing
- 14:33that they do is filmed tracked. They know probably guys better
- 14:37than the guys know themselves. And just from a scouting
- 14:40standpoint, too, I think that's another thing that college games
- 14:43really kind of catapulted on. And the rehab, the strength.
- 14:46I mean, like I said, I mentioned these freshmen, they don't look
- 14:49like freshmen. The flip side of that is there's
- 14:50a lot of guys that put on a ton of muscle in the offseason.
- 14:53Somebody like Chris, remember, who goes Team USA comes back in
- 14:57the spring. Aiden Robbins at Texas is
- 15:00another guy that's probably going to find himself drafted
- 15:02this year. He put on 15 lbs of pure muscle
- 15:05and his quad quintupled his home run total.
- 15:09And he's far from the only one. Tim O Becerra is another one
- 15:13Adrian Rodriguez puts on. He actually lost a little weight
- 15:16what he put on 10 lbs last year. I think it's just, I mean these
- 15:20college, they're run like pro organizations I think in a good
- 15:22way. Didn't you mention a couple of
- 15:26hitters? I do want to talk about the
- 15:27hitting aspect of the SEC. The competition on this is, is
- 15:32all time here. And if you look at the players
- 15:34you mentioned like Kate and Soro, like I mean he's leading
- 15:36categories in the RBI's and home runs.
- 15:39Then you got Jake Brown from LSU.
- 15:42I mean, LSU has a great program overall when it comes to
- 15:45hitters, too. You mentioned about Robbins,
- 15:48Daniel Jackson, another one. Justin LeBron, another guy who's
- 15:52supposed to be in this year's draft.
- 15:53Like how deep is this hitting class?
- 15:56Or like the competitiveness of hitters in the SEC?
- 16:01I mean, it's just a gauntlet, if you will.
- 16:04I mean, you mentioned Dan Jackson at Georgia.
- 16:07I mean, there's like 7 or 8 guys that could realistically start.
- 16:12Lebron's an interesting one because, you know, I was pulling
- 16:15it up and obviously I'm not sure when the e-mail be updated their
- 16:18prospect list, but he's listed as third.
- 16:20He's sitting down around 2:20 in SEC play, you know, 13 errors.
- 16:26So I'm really curious to kind of see how he does.
- 16:28But flip side of that is somebody like Jake Brown's
- 16:30probably going to shoot up a ton because he's an absolute cover
- 16:33off the ball. I mean it, if you can hit the
- 16:35SEC, you can hit just about anywhere.
- 16:36I mean, we've seen it. I know Jake Mangum, just to kind
- 16:39of throw it back is, you know, that was when I was in college
- 16:41at Mississippi State. Brent Rooker's another guy
- 16:44there. I mean, if you can come on and
- 16:46hit the SECI mean, that's where the best hitters hit.
- 16:49It's it's just really exciting. Hokopian's another guy.
- 16:53You know, Joe Doyle had an interesting stat that based on
- 16:58advanced stats, Hokopian's actually been better than Rock
- 17:00Cholowski just off of stuff like that.
- 17:03And he's actually been slumped in the last two weeks.
- 17:06So I kind of show you how insane some of these guys are.
- 17:09I mean, Terrell has, you know, 98% exit velos.
- 17:13I mean, these guys are just insane.
- 17:16I'll talk a bit about some of the players of the week In the
- 17:19SEC. You had TJ Pompey at 3rd baseman
- 17:23at 4 was the player of the week. He had a big series, hitting a
- 17:27couple home runs, double driving in six.
- 17:32And then the pitchers of the week were Alex Petrovich at
- 17:35Auburn and Amp Phillips to South Carolina, who had really good
- 17:40outings, one in relief, one as a starter.
- 17:42So talk about those guys a little bit and and what led them
- 17:45to be win those awards. Yeah, I mean, Pompey's had, you
- 17:51know, a grind of a season, if you will.
- 17:53I mean, this is a guy who two years ago was a stud at Texas
- 17:56Tech that tore the cover off the ball last year.
- 17:59He has an injury, misses a time and there's a transfer portal,
- 18:01ends up in Arkansas. And Arkansas is not the easiest
- 18:04place to play. I mean, they have 10-12 guys
- 18:07that could probably start at any program in the entire country.
- 18:10And, you know, Pompey really kind of took it on the shoulder
- 18:12that first month or two of the season.
- 18:13Like you're striking out a time he was in and out of the lineup
- 18:17and you know, this weekend it just clicked for him.
- 18:19And it really all started with that just in LeBron error in
- 18:23Friday's game. You know, it's kind of a slow
- 18:25roller. LeBron rushes it.
- 18:27Suddenly Alabama gives up the lead and then, you know, next
- 18:31pitch Pompey ambushes a home run.
- 18:32Like that really does kind of show you how thin the margins
- 18:35are. And you know, Pompey's another
- 18:37guy where if they if Arkansas can kind of get him going, him
- 18:40and and Mike and new out in center field.
- 18:42I mean, it's a scary, scary team.
- 18:44And then, you know, the other guys, Petrovic's been pitching
- 18:47for Auburn on Sunday. So it's kind of interesting
- 18:50that, you know, a Sunday guy when a lot of these teams are
- 18:54going with TBA and, you know, Auburn.
- 18:56And I'll even throw Atlantis in Texas because he's another one
- 18:59of those guys where you can just talk in time and time again
- 19:01about how good he is. But it's such a cheat code on
- 19:04Sunday when you get turned to somebody like Petrovic, you
- 19:07know, study the bullpen, get you 6-7 innings and then behind him
- 19:11like you're, you're really kind of good to go.
- 19:13Phil puts another guy where, you know, Monty Lee's been doing
- 19:15this weird in and out stuff trying to get some stuff to
- 19:19stick. He goes up there to Missouri and
- 19:21they win A1 nothing game where they steal it, where they don't
- 19:23even get a, they don't even score a run.
- 19:27So it, it's interesting. I, I would say.
- 19:30And then, you know, the freshman of the week too.
- 19:31I mean you can almost pick 7 or 8 freshmen at week every week it
- 19:35seems like. You mentioned about Rock
- 19:40Cholosky and Chris Hokopian. That was actually one of my
- 19:43questions. I want to get to that actually.
- 19:45It's so interesting to say that because Rock Cholosky is
- 19:48projected to be the number 1 ticket this coming draft.
- 19:51But like you said, he's been struggling a bit.
- 19:54And Chris Hokopian was a trash reporter last year.
- 19:57A lot of people thought he was going to be a top player and
- 20:00supposed to be at least probably within the top 50, but he's been
- 20:03ascending up like and there's a lot of similar characteristics
- 20:06with this with their hitting tools.
- 20:08The way that both players are like, is there any shot that
- 20:12Hucopia could be as similar as Rock Cholowsky?
- 20:16I think they're a little bit different and I've got to
- 20:18actually see both of them, you know, multiple times.
- 20:21You know, Rock is a super, super athletic shortstop.
- 20:25He is, I would say, and this isn't a knock on a Copian
- 20:29because he's a transfer and it's a little bit different, but he
- 20:32kind of reminds me a little bit of like a Travis Bazano with how
- 20:35vocal he is, how much of A leader he is, how important he
- 20:38is to a program. You almost kind of forget that
- 20:41Rock hits as good as he does. I know that sounds crazy to say
- 20:45based off of like measurables, but you know, everything that he
- 20:48does, like behind the scenes and stuff that you don't measure is
- 20:51just absolutely insane. And the flip side of that is,
- 20:54you know, Chris Socopian. This is a guy who I would argue
- 20:58for his entire life. I don't really know his high
- 21:00school background that much. He's probably been the best
- 21:02person on the field and just the humbleness to go to a place
- 21:07where you're not the best person on the field.
- 21:09You know, you have Sorrell, you have Grijovic.
- 21:12Calendar beats him out at short and moves him over to 2nd.
- 21:15And you know, he's mature enough and veteran enough to accept
- 21:18this role, be in the middle of the lineup.
- 21:20And obviously he's got some stuff to work on.
- 21:22He sometimes gets happy feet. But I mean, Michael Early has a
- 21:26proven, proven track record of getting hitters ready for the
- 21:29next level. You know, he's the hitting coach
- 21:31with Spencer Torkelson in Arizona State.
- 21:33So I mean, getting to learn from somebody like that, you need to
- 21:36bounce ideas off of Sorrell and Grahovic, I think is a huge,
- 21:38huge thing for Hokopian. And then the flip side of that
- 21:41is, is Grijovic and Sorrell being humble enough to accept
- 21:45somebody that's ranked higher than them, you know, and teach
- 21:49them the ropes. I mean, it's it's I think it's
- 21:51fantastic. How?
- 21:52I mean you almost forget Hokopian's a transfer with how
- 21:56well he meshes with this team. We've talked a lot about the,
- 22:01the pitching and the hitting and the SEC as a whole, but dive
- 22:06into some of these rotations and, and like which rotations
- 22:11really interest you the most and which, which are some guys that,
- 22:18that really like jump off the page and just like how deep can
- 22:22they, can they can teams go in, in a, in a weekend series?
- 22:28I think, you know, if you're going to talk pitching staff, so
- 22:30I think you've got to start with the Texas Longhorns.
- 22:32I mean, they've Dylan Volantis, who they've moved up into the
- 22:34Friday roll this week just because they had a weird rain
- 22:36delay. But Riojas is a guy that throws
- 22:387 or 8 pitches. Harrison's the old man of the
- 22:41staff. And I actually thought it was
- 22:45going to be, you know, Sam Cozart, who was going to kind of
- 22:49come in and take a few innings. I mean, this is a guy where if
- 22:52you have any listeners, like, you need to go Google this kid.
- 22:54Like he's 18 years old that has a full on beard, super, super
- 22:59built out and he's not a bullpen arm for them.
- 23:04Thomas Burns has been another one.
- 23:07Hayden Lafu. I mean, there are very few
- 23:10teams, like they're teams like Aiden that absolutely hit the
- 23:12cover off the ball and then piece together.
- 23:14But what's out of this? Like Texas has seven or eight
- 23:16arms that they really, really trust.
- 23:18Another staff that I really, really like is Ole Miss Hunter
- 23:22Elliott, who I feel like he's been there forever.
- 23:24He was on that national championship team back in 2022
- 23:27and he's still kind of kicking around with two red shirts.
- 23:30Kate Townsend behind him has probably been the best pitcher
- 23:33in the SEC. He didn't miss two starts kind
- 23:35of in the middle. So his stats are a little bit,
- 23:38you know, deflated if you will. But I mean, he's been a
- 23:40phenomenal 1. And then Taylor Ray behind him
- 23:43and Florida, I know I mentioned Tennessee, it really is kind of
- 23:46the haves and the have nots like LSU as a TBA on Sunday, Georgia
- 23:50and Arkansas have TB as on Sundays.
- 23:52And then the teams that have Sunday guys, I mean, they're
- 23:54phenomenal. Like Russell Sandiford at
- 23:56Florida's probably my favorite arm that I've seen this year.
- 23:59I mean, it's just, and even then the quote UN quote bad arms.
- 24:03Like Georgia has 9 or 10 guys that they can roll out in a in a
- 24:07weekend. Like it's just insane some of
- 24:09the the bullpens these teams have.
- 24:13When I was talking about the awards, I failed to mention that
- 24:15Cam Appenzeller, relief pitcher for Tennessee, won the Freshman
- 24:18of the week. So going to the bullpens, who
- 24:23are some like teams and guys and bullpens that really like jump
- 24:27off the page to you in the SEC. I think it really is Cam
- 24:30Appenzeller and everybody else. I got to see him pitch on Friday
- 24:33at Mississippi State. I mean, this is a guy we're
- 24:37multiple times. So on a weekend, he's given you
- 24:401215 outs and when a lot of teams are really kind of
- 24:44struggling to piece stuff together.
- 24:47Jack Bauer at Mississippi State's, another guy, he's a
- 24:50true freshman, throws over 100, has some walk issues and still
- 24:55kind of trying to figure out his role in Mississippi State.
- 24:57But I think 2-3 years we're going to be talking about
- 25:00Hamilton. And then outside of that, I
- 25:04mean, Missouri or sorry, Oklahoma has Jackson, Cleveland
- 25:08from Missouri. Leon started a few games for
- 25:11them, but it really is with these bullpens, the haves and
- 25:14the have nots. Well, if you look at the
- 25:18schedules coming up, because you talk about the way the rotations
- 25:21are built and what works with these pitching Staffs and the
- 25:27hitters and you look at the these upcoming schedules in
- 25:30these coming weeks. Obviously we've got some big
- 25:32ones this weekend, but there's like the non conference games
- 25:35that's coming on in the April 21st week and then the 23rd to
- 25:3826th. The key, the key matchups is
- 25:42Alabama at Tennessee, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas A&M at Florida,
- 25:46Texas. How pivotal are those matches?
- 25:49Because when it comes to standing, it's going to it's
- 25:52going to be the moment like you're going to be end up going
- 25:54to the playoffs, right? And these, these games are going
- 25:56to matter, right? Yeah.
- 25:59I mean, for reference, there's nine teams in the SEC that sit
- 26:03within a game of each other at 8:00 and 7:00 or 7:00 and 8:00.
- 26:07And I think the other thing that's been kind of weird this
- 26:09year is how many sweeps there are.
- 26:12Like, I know that that's one of these, some of the cheat codes,
- 26:14if you will, is stealing a Sunday game where you've lost
- 26:17the 1st 2 or splitting. I mean, that really hasn't
- 26:20happened in the SEC this year. So I mean, there's so much
- 26:23fluctuation. I mean, these next 4 weeks are
- 26:26really going to come come down to it because I would, I would
- 26:29argue Missouri and South Carolina are pretty much already
- 26:31eliminated at this point. And then Missouri, Vanderbilt,
- 26:35sorry, LSU, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, well, those are the
- 26:38three teams that are kind of right in the thick of it, of
- 26:41being right at that cut line. LSU and Vandy, I think, have to
- 26:43win 14 games just with their RPI.
- 26:46Tennessee, I know that they swept, but I know that there was
- 26:48a lot of people, me included, when they were sitting at 4:00
- 26:50and 8:00 or like, hey, you know, do you really trust this team to
- 26:53go, you know, 9 and whatever down the stretch and gets to 13
- 26:58wins? Because I mean, we've seen it in
- 27:00the past. Like regardless of how good
- 27:02these SEC teams are, they usually only take about 12 or 13
- 27:06of them. And if you're that 12 or 13, you
- 27:08have to have a really, really strong resume.
- 27:10And obviously LSU and Danny just don't have that this year.
- 27:13So you, if you're them, you got to feel really, really good.
- 27:16Really, really worried. I mean, the other thing too, I
- 27:18read today that was kind of interesting where LSU is on the
- 27:22bubble for a lot of projections. And I mean, it's a joke.
- 27:27Like they're not a good team resume rise right now.
- 27:30I mean, obviously there's four weeks, but I mean, it's an RPI
- 27:34in the 70s, they said 23 and 15. They have been absolutely
- 27:37terrible out of conference record and out of conference,
- 27:41you know, RPI or if you know they were Kansas or even an ACC
- 27:46team, like you won't even be talking about them.
- 27:47I mean, they have a big one this week against A&M and it was kind
- 27:51of what righted their season back in 2024.
- 27:54So obviously there's plenty of time in these next 4 weeks to
- 27:56figure it out. But I mean, LSU and Vandy are
- 27:58right at the cut line of this in the tournament.
- 28:01But if you look at the schedules out there, which team do you
- 28:04think is under more more pressure to win?
- 28:08I would say LSU because Vandy has a lot of external things
- 28:13that are kind of out of their control in terms of recruiting.
- 28:17Like they can only recruit graduate transfers or people who
- 28:20have degrees, whereas LSU can pretty much recruit anybody.
- 28:23Add that in with all the kind of mind games that Jeh Johnson's
- 28:27been playing with the media about money.
- 28:30I mean, for reference with with NIL and Rev sharing, which again
- 28:37isn't the only factor I would say with them, but they're
- 28:40getting ref share at women's gymnastics level.
- 28:44And obviously they're going in and fixing that because Jay
- 28:46Johnson's kind of said, hey, that this is truly unacceptable.
- 28:50But I mean, LSU's had a ton of transfers.
- 28:53Like they have a lot of good guys.
- 28:55And I mean, when you flop like this, there's really kind of two
- 28:59schools of thought of where you go from here.
- 29:01I know that the Tony V thing with the Giants, like the jury's
- 29:03still hot on it, but Jay's another one of those guys that
- 29:06could very easily get a pro job. I mean, they get A&M,
- 29:08Mississippi State, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida.
- 29:11I mean, they get Mississippi State at the dude is probably
- 29:15going to be rolling around again.
- 29:17Georgia, they have to go to Foley, LSU, Florida.
- 29:20I mean, if Florida's fighting for a tournament or host,
- 29:24they're probably going to not rest their arms.
- 29:26I mean, LSU is in a lot of trouble and they they got a,
- 29:29they're going to have to steal one from Mississippi Stadium or
- 29:31Florida I think to even have a chance.
- 29:35The SEC Baseball tournament scheduled to take place at the
- 29:38end of May, May 19th to 24th, and Alabama.
- 29:43Who are some teams that you think could make some noise in
- 29:46the tournament? Yeah, that's always an
- 29:49interesting one. We did have a new format last
- 29:51year with Oklahoma and Texas coming over to where all 16
- 29:54teams make it and it's single elimination.
- 29:57There are some teams like Vanderbilt and will mess who
- 30:00will go, you know, balls to the wall to try and win it.
- 30:03And then there's other teams like Texas and LSU that'll just
- 30:07make sure their pitchers get work.
- 30:08So it's always the team that's kind of in that 4 to 5 range
- 30:11that you really kind of think is going to be the one.
- 30:13I I would go with Georgia. I know Georgia's 1.
- 30:16So it doesn't really fit the narrative that I just tried to
- 30:17present. But they have so many bullpen
- 30:20arms they can slug it in shootouts.
- 30:24Arkansas, I think, is another one where they can slug it.
- 30:27Texas A and MI always feel like if you're going to make it
- 30:29through those regionals, you got to have seven or eight or the
- 30:31tournament, you got to have seven or eight arms and you got
- 30:34to have bats that bang. And A&M doesn't really have the
- 30:37arms, but I mean, they can bang it with anybody in the country.
- 30:43We could see a surprise team that could come out of nowhere
- 30:46in the SEC and start playing well because like you said, it's
- 30:50so damn competitive, right? Like you just don't know.
- 30:52And Georgia has played so well out of everybody.
- 30:55Obviously a lot of people expected to play it, but they're
- 30:58here, right? Like could you see Texas come
- 31:01out of nowhere? I know Texas has been struggling
- 31:03to get to get to the dance, but they just can't get there.
- 31:06But given the fact that LSU, they were the reigning champs
- 31:10and looks like they're they're in a bit of trouble, like you
- 31:12said. So is there any other
- 31:13opportunities for any other teams that could try to come out
- 31:16of nowhere and try to compete for the for the College World
- 31:18Series? I mean, it's always just a wide,
- 31:21wide open tournament every single year.
- 31:22Like, you know, I think back to Arkansas in 21, like they were
- 31:28kind of the hot team. Tennessee was hot.
- 31:30And the flip side of that is like that 23 team with
- 31:33Vanderbilt and A&M, like those were two teams that really were
- 31:36not, you know, really talked about or considered.
- 31:40Ole Miss was another one that got really hot and Vandy
- 31:43obviously won the whole thing to steal the one seed.
- 31:45So it's always kind of he's playing the best baseball at the
- 31:47right time, 1-2, who has the most to improve?
- 31:51Because that's the other thing is if LSU and Texas already have
- 31:54that top eight seed locked up, you know, they're probably not
- 31:56going to actually not LSU. I don't know why I said that
- 31:59Texas and Georgia already have those top 8 seeds locked up.
- 32:02Like, you know, who really cares about it?
- 32:05If you will, like we'll have our starters throw, have our gold
- 32:07pins arm go, but you know, no harm enough if we go out early.
- 32:11I think that's, that's the only thing is, I mean, Texas has the
- 32:14arms to go through it, but you, you just kind of wonder how much
- 32:18some of these teams really care. So this is an interesting
- 32:22question now because like we talk about managers, how
- 32:26important they are, right? And we look at the head coaches
- 32:30and you know, some teams are not off to good starts, some teams
- 32:33are off to great starts. But if you have to ask yourself
- 32:37this question, who would you say is under the hot seat or, or
- 32:42there's a chance that they could get fired?
- 32:43Because I know that there's always that there's always a
- 32:46couple managers that could be at stake and they could get fired
- 32:50right at the end. I think obviously we already
- 32:54have money or pulmonary who was fired at South Carolina, right?
- 32:59It's really weird because I would say Michael early at the
- 33:03start of the year was on the hot seat, but I would say that's
- 33:06100% close, like cleared out. It's with them being, you know,
- 33:09top ten. I don't think there's any worry
- 33:10there. I don't think Carrick's under
- 33:15any kind of pressure at Missouri either, just because I think
- 33:18it's it's not funded correctly. So if you're going to fund it,
- 33:22you might as well give Carrick a shot.
- 33:24But you know, outside of that, I would say Houston in the Big 12
- 33:29is probably the one that you have to watch for.
- 33:32And then just the trickle down effect of, you know, Pulmonary
- 33:36at South Carolina, like they're going to steal an existing
- 33:38coach, whether it's Kevin Schnall at Coastal, whether it's
- 33:41Dan Fitzgerald at Kansas. I would say Tadlock at Texas
- 33:46Tech is another one that is probably on the hot seat.
- 33:49But I don't think Korbes is on the hot seat.
- 33:52Like I don't think Elander's really on the hot seat.
- 33:57Jay's probably on the hot seat like to leave, but not on the
- 34:00hot seat to be fired, if that kind of makes sense.
- 34:02Right, No, because like I asked you this because like you look
- 34:06at the coach and always in that conference, there's always
- 34:10pressure to win, right? And like you said, like early
- 34:13was was on the hot seat last year and he he seemed like his
- 34:17job is safe. And I guess, I guess if the
- 34:19players were a pro early, fans, right, or guys, right?
- 34:23Yeah, they they championed for him twice, actually.
- 34:26Really. Wow.
- 34:27That's. Interesting.
- 34:29What about like a Van Horn or Thompson or Vaughn, Any of those
- 34:32guys? Are any or do you think those
- 34:35guys are safe as well? They're safe.
- 34:37I mean, DVH, the only thing you got to worry about is
- 34:40retirement. But when I was talking to one of
- 34:43their coaches, she was like, no, he's like, unless Dave comes out
- 34:46of nowhere, which would barely be Dave, but I mean, Butch
- 34:50Thompson and Auburn, I mean, he's probably one of the most
- 34:52underrated coaches at any sport. Like they regularly go to Omaha
- 34:56and no one really thinks of them as like a blue blood.
- 34:58I think he's fine. Bianco maybe.
- 35:01But then again, they're kind of so hot right now.
- 35:03Like I feel like he always does just enough to save his job.
- 35:08USA Baseball earlier this month announced its mid season watch
- 35:11list for for the Golden Spikes Award candidates in 2026 with
- 35:18guys on this list. Some top guys like of course,
- 35:22Rock Chalowski, AJ Gracia, what your guy Kaden Sorrell, Will
- 35:29Gasparino, There's just a number of Daniel Jackson, GA, and even
- 35:35a high school prospect and Grady Emerson, the only, the only high
- 35:39school prospect on this list. So talk about some of the guys
- 35:43and some of the candidates and who ultimately you think might
- 35:47end up winning that award when it's all said and done.
- 35:50Yeah, you mentioned Grady Emerson.
- 35:52We've never had a high school kid win the golden spikes.
- 35:55The only non college D1 player was Bryce Harper, who you know,
- 36:00obviously was a little bit of an asterisk because he was Bryce
- 36:02Harper. But it's kind of funny a little
- 36:04bit. Some of the curse that's come
- 36:06out, like LJ Mercurius from AU was on the Golden Spikes watch
- 36:10list and then he's been ineffective like 2 of the last
- 36:13three weeks. Ryder Helfrick's another guy
- 36:16that I really, really like, but he's been kind of cold.
- 36:19It's interesting though, the Rock Cholowski aspect of it,
- 36:22because it does kind of feel like he has it locked up.
- 36:26But the flip side of that is, I mean, Kags was the best college
- 36:29player for his last two years and he didn't win the Golden
- 36:32Spikes. I didn't think he was a
- 36:33finalist, actually. So it's always kind of
- 36:35interesting. You got to have like you got to
- 36:38be one on a team that goes to Omaha.
- 36:40Two, you have to have a ton of hype around you, and then three,
- 36:43you have to have like a marquee moment that kind of makes
- 36:46everybody. I mean, it really does kind of
- 36:49feel like it's Rock. So hard to lose at this point.
- 36:54Do you think there's any other sleepers in, in the, in the
- 36:57golden spikes? We had like a Lloyd won it last
- 37:01year, right? Yeah.
- 37:02He came out of nowhere to win it.
- 37:04That's what I'm saying. Could we see any player like
- 37:07that that could come out of nowhere to win the Golden Spikes
- 37:09Award? I think Trey Phelps at Georgia
- 37:12is one that could kind of come out of nowhere, if you will.
- 37:15I mean, he tears the absolute cover off the ball.
- 37:18I mean, that Georgia team's just a highlight reel factory with
- 37:20all the all the home runs that they hit.
- 37:22I mean, he went my role for like cleat color.
- 37:25So he kind of has that like mantra and bravado about him.
- 37:29If you're going to make me pick like an off the radar one, it'd
- 37:31probably be him or Landon Harrison and Hairston at Arizona
- 37:37State. He's a Scott Hairston's son and
- 37:41Jerry. Hairston Junior's.
- 37:42Nephew. Yeah, I think he leads the
- 37:44country in home runs right now. Unfortunately, Arizona State's
- 37:48kind of slumping right now as BYU kind of took it to him.
- 37:51But I mean, he's another one that's that's probably going to
- 37:54be one of the final three. This is one of my favorite
- 37:58questions in this episode is SEC player of the year candidates
- 38:03and we have so many players that you can mention and we could and
- 38:09you've already mentioned a plethora of them right already.
- 38:13But if you want to mention other guys like Tristan up Besetta or
- 38:16the OR Ryder Heffrick or Ace Reese or any pitchers out there
- 38:21like a Dylan Volante, we mentioned Rob mentioned about
- 38:24William Peterson gave God Gay Co, right?
- 38:26Like who would you say would be the top, let's just say 33
- 38:31candidates to be favorites to be SEC player of the year?
- 38:35It's it's kind of interesting because a few of these guys are
- 38:37like really, really slumping hard, like ace race rider
- 38:39Helfrich, Justin, LeBron. We're all guys who, you know,
- 38:42probably 2-3 weeks ago would have been in the conversation.
- 38:45Obviously I'd like to see like 4 weeks and a lot can change, but
- 38:49I'll give you 1. I think it's got to be Gavin
- 38:51Rehovic, like, you know, moving from third base to first base
- 38:56coming off of an injury, going from in 2024 being a consensus
- 39:00top five pick to out of the top 150 and finally getting healthy,
- 39:05get the SEC Player of the week. I mean, I know that they don't
- 39:08give like legacy awards for the SEC player of the year, but I
- 39:11feel like he should like, he truly saved like Texas A&M's
- 39:15program because I mean, if he enters the Port Author,
- 39:18Schlossnaka leaves, like this is a program that's dead on
- 39:20arrival. Michael Lily's probably fired
- 39:23and you know, instead he's hitting 32330, tearing the cover
- 39:27off the ball. I mean, that'd be the one that I
- 39:29would pick. Like, you know, April 16th is
- 39:32Gavin Grijovic. We talked about some of the
- 39:36players like Justin LeBron, Derek Curio, Liam Peterson, Ace
- 39:41Reese, Gavin Gorhovic. We've talked a lot about those
- 39:45guys, but mentioned some of the guys in your opinion that that
- 39:50you know, just talk about some guys that are draft eligible
- 39:52this year that some of the guys we haven't talked about yet.
- 39:55Yeah, I mean, like I said, we talked about a ton of these
- 39:58guys. Tyler Bell is actually one that
- 40:01I can't believe I went this far without saying it.
- 40:03He was a Kentucky's highest rated recruit ever.
- 40:08In terms of draft stock, he's raised it a little bit.
- 40:10He was dealing with a little bit of a hand injury.
- 40:12But you know, he's a draft eligible sophomore That's, you
- 40:15know, Kentucky really hasn't got off to the best start the last
- 40:173-4 weeks. That's not been because of Bell.
- 40:20I mean, he's been tearing the absolute cover off the ball.
- 40:22Rembert's another kind of draft eligible sophomore that that
- 40:25really takes high quality at bats.
- 40:27The only thing is, you know, the second baseman, you really do
- 40:30kind of have to wonder who, who they kind of value with stuff
- 40:34like that. Then another guy that I've seen,
- 40:38Trey Broussard for Houston, he he's just an absolute masher in
- 40:43the middle of that lineup. It's it's really kind of
- 40:45exciting to see somebody like him because I think it's really
- 40:48just him and climbing on a really bad Houston team.
- 40:51But Broussard, there's absolute cover off the ball.
- 40:53And then some of the high school guys I've got to see like
- 40:56Jvorski Lane Junior, I'd be shocked if he ends up in
- 40:59Arkansas. You know, I mentioned Grady
- 41:01Emerson earlier, but he's another guy that I've really got
- 41:03to see that's been really, really great.
- 41:05But I mean, there's no shortage of talent this year by any
- 41:11stretch of the imagination. Even guys that are quote, UN
- 41:13quote, having bad years like Owen Krimkowski, Justin LeBron,
- 41:17like I mean, these are guys that could probably still figure it
- 41:19out from a pro standpoint. What about a guy like Joey
- 41:23Volchko? Because Volchko was a name that
- 41:27people kept their eyes on the way he pitches the ball.
- 41:30Like, could he be anything? I know that he was projected to
- 41:33go top top or in the first round of this year, but he probably
- 41:37fell off a bit like like, is there guys like him that that
- 41:41could probably fall off the, you know, the radar and he could be,
- 41:44they could be like underrated players in in the draft.
- 41:47Well, the thing that always gets me about the MLB Draft,
- 41:49especially with pitchers, is age is such a big factor in the
- 41:54projections with stuff like that.
- 41:56But the flip side of that is like, like I remember I was
- 41:59talking to a scout, I think this is like 2-3 years ago, and it
- 42:03was about arm injuries. And he was like, actually like,
- 42:05we don't really care about that as much as you think like, like
- 42:09we trust our medical staff, We trust this.
- 42:11He's like the guy has arm issues like, well, that doesn't really
- 42:14bother us. So you think about somebody like
- 42:16a Matt Scott at Stanford who is really kind of highly recruited,
- 42:20obviously had some things kind of not go his way at Stanford is
- 42:24probably should have been drafted, but he's in studies at
- 42:26Georgia. Somebody like him, you, you kind
- 42:29of see somebody like Rugeriohas who you know, came on very, very
- 42:34late, if you will, because he transferred into Texas and
- 42:37upperclassmen. It's, it's always kind of those
- 42:39late round guys that really can allow these MLB teams make a ton
- 42:43of money on. I mean, the the MLB is filled
- 42:47with guys who were 510 round picks.
- 42:51That's kind of where a lot of these pitchers make their money.
- 42:54Another guy, Fluky from Coastal, you know, I mentioned the arm
- 42:57issues. He's 1.
- 42:58He hasn't pitched really hardly at all this season into arm
- 43:00issues. I don't think that'll really
- 43:02affect his stock too too much. Like the team that likes Fluky.
- 43:05He's probably drafting off his stuff from Omaha last year
- 43:08anyway. Well, let's look at, let's look
- 43:11a little bit about the college aspect of like in general for
- 43:14this year's draft class, because we we talk strictly about the
- 43:17SEC. But if you have to ask yourself
- 43:19like if there's a couple names who are very underrated in
- 43:24general, like, and we know that Rob Cholosky is probably going
- 43:26to go #1 LeBron is still around. I mean, you Drew Burris was a
- 43:31name that's been talked about. We talked about Derek Coolio.
- 43:34But who would you say like we should keep an eye on in in the
- 43:39draft? That could surprise me because
- 43:40last year we saw Tyler Breber being the number two pick right
- 43:45from from the Angels like that came out.
- 43:47Could we see anything like that in in this coming draft?
- 43:51Yeah, I mean, it's always weird what these teams kind of value
- 43:54with stuff like that and obviously with slot money and
- 43:57everything. But I think the one that really
- 43:59kind of fits that role is the guy who's probably better than
- 44:03Remner last year is it's Jason. We're sorry.
- 44:06Jackson Flora from UCSBI mean he absolutely pounds the zone.
- 44:11He's another guy that you could kind of slide in as an under
- 44:13slot. Eric Becker at Virginia, Bob
- 44:17Lackey's another kind of late shooter just because he's a
- 44:20catcher that can really kind of tear the cover off the ball.
- 44:24And then another one that's really, really underrated but is
- 44:27one of my favorite players is John Lim from Alabama.
- 44:30I mean, he's a left-handed hitting catcher that manages
- 44:33games really, really well. I'm not sure how high he'll go
- 44:35just off age, but I mean, he's just been a fantastic, fantastic
- 44:38player that it wouldn't surprise me if, you know, you see him
- 44:41kind of rise up really, really late.
- 44:43What? About what about like, what
- 44:45about like Jake Brown, right? Jake Brown, I know that he's
- 44:51been hitting well, but could you see a team that could take a
- 44:54flyer? Because you know when you talk
- 44:57about players and you look look at rankings, the coaching, the
- 45:00development, like sometimes they take best player available or
- 45:03some some guys like to take under slot like players like
- 45:06him. Could you see him go in the
- 45:07first round potentially? Yeah, I think he's kind of right
- 45:10in that cut line. And I think for me personally,
- 45:13this is where I have like a lot of issues with grading players
- 45:16is in kind of that 30 to 60 range.
- 45:19Because you really do can kind of talk yourself into Jake Brown
- 45:21falling into the last half of the first round.
- 45:24And you can also talk yourself into him being like a second or
- 45:26third round pick. You know, he's added a ton of
- 45:30power, a ton of pop. He's got a really short
- 45:33left-handed swing. He's got an underrated strong
- 45:37arm. He doesn't move the fastest,
- 45:39which is kind of a worry if you're an outfielder that
- 45:41somebody at his age doesn't really move that well from a
- 45:44scouting standpoint. But I mean, somebody's going to
- 45:46take his bat, I think, without a doubt.
- 45:51Well, let's talk a little bit about next year's draft class.
- 45:56And it seems like it's a little bit deeper.
- 45:59Like I, I like to hear your thoughts about this because
- 46:02there's, there's so much talent, right with these classes
- 46:06overall. And, and give us a little
- 46:08preview of what can we expect from next year's graph.
- 46:13Even if you want to talk about with the SEC, like you can talk
- 46:15about Will, William Schmidt, Levi Clark, Chase Frolick.
- 46:20You mentioned about Owen, what's that Pino like?
- 46:24Like who are the names? Like I mentioned some, but if
- 46:26there's anything else, any other players, I believe Dylan Volante
- 46:29is another one as well. But like if there's any other
- 46:32names I'm missing like mention those guys that should be talked
- 46:35about more. I mean, Dax Whitney is probably
- 46:38going to be 11, similar to how Rock was this past year.
- 46:42He's absolutely insane. He'd probably be the first
- 46:45pitcher taken this year. Another one is Bino Waiters up
- 46:52at Notre Dame. I mean, this is a team and a guy
- 46:55that was so talented that they were kind of willing to let
- 46:57Carson Tenney go. And Carson Tenney was a prize
- 47:00portal for a lot of these teams. So somebody like him, I mean, is
- 47:04really, really strong. Rodriguez at Texas, I know he's
- 47:07kind of been dealing with that hand injury.
- 47:09So he actually was allergic to his stitches.
- 47:13So he's kind of had a long road ahead.
- 47:14I think he's, you know, phenomenal, phenomenal one.
- 47:17Somebody like Blaine Brown, who I got to see at Rice a ton last
- 47:20year, is kind of a two way guy. His dad was actually Chris
- 47:24Brown, Titans player and Texans player.
- 47:27So somebody like him I think is another kind of late riser and
- 47:30then mid major guy Jack Omen up at Yale.
- 47:34I mean, obviously he really likes Yale.
- 47:37He didn't portal this past year and he's probably one of the
- 47:39best arms. But I think he's a guy that's,
- 47:41you know, a lot of people when those mocks come out are going
- 47:44to be like, why is a Yale guy in the top 20?
- 47:46But I mean, Elman up at Yale's one of the best pitchers in the
- 47:49country. What?
- 47:51What? What about Aidan King?
- 47:52Because Florida produces so well with pitching, right?
- 47:55If you look at their track, yeah.
- 47:56I mean, it's Kevin O'sullivan's secret sauce.
- 47:58And I mean, and, you know, you mentioned how good Liam Peterson
- 48:01is, like Aidan King's been arguably better.
- 48:04And it really shows that. So Sully's moved him up into
- 48:07that Friday role. He's been really, really
- 48:10phenomenal, too. It's just, I mean, these Florida
- 48:15guys are such a factory for arms.
- 48:18Like, I mean, Kevin O'Sullivan does a phenomenal, phenomenal
- 48:20job. I think finding guys, recruiting
- 48:23them because I mean, these are all homegrown guys that we're
- 48:25talking about. Like they, they, they really
- 48:27don't dip into the portal like too crazy.
- 48:30I know that they have like a Carson Bowen or a Blake Seer or
- 48:34something like that. But I mean, a lot of these
- 48:35Florida guys are like truly homegrown.
- 48:39We wanted to to ask you and there's some lots of teams that
- 48:44you know, are very, very good in college baseball and the odds of
- 48:49are out for the the winner of the College World Series.
- 48:53You got UCLA, Georgia Tech, Texas, Georgia and Mississippi
- 48:58State, North Carolina, LSU, Florida and Auburn kind of like
- 49:02it. But it just seems a little bit
- 49:05like it's like the odds have it a little bit more wide open than
- 49:08people would think. And what are your thoughts on,
- 49:13you know, how this might go and who ultimately might be a chance
- 49:17to win the World Series or even sleeper team that could come and
- 49:20and and win it all in Omaha? Yeah, I mean, you kind of
- 49:23mentioned it. Usually what we have, especially
- 49:25with NIL and transfer portal, you think SECSEC and then you
- 49:29turn around in Coastal Carolina's playing LSU for the
- 49:31national championship. Like it really is kind of who
- 49:34gets hot at the right time. I mean, Texas was the best team
- 49:38at this point last year and they don't even make it out of a
- 49:40regional. So it's always who's playing the
- 49:42best baseball on the stretch. I'm really interested to see
- 49:45UCLA because I got to see him in Dallas against Mississippi
- 49:48State, Tennessee and A&M, and they looked a step above them.
- 49:52And these are all teams now that are A&M and Arkansas are top 15
- 49:56teams. Tennessee's obviously kind of in
- 49:58that log jam of SEC teams. But I mean, UCLA like looked
- 50:02like a class above them. So I mean, they're really,
- 50:05really tough to beat. Georgia Tech, a lot like A&M
- 50:08where you don't know if they have the pitching and the flip
- 50:11side out is Texas with the bats because their bats feel so boom,
- 50:14bust. It's like at times they look
- 50:16like one of the best hitting teams and then at other times
- 50:19not so good. A&M stuff only gives them four
- 50:21runs. So I think that those are kind
- 50:24of the three teams for me. I mean, pitching, pitching,
- 50:26pitching is always important. You always run into some first
- 50:29round guy that throws 97 that just shuts you down for five
- 50:32innings like Liam Peterson did to Georgia last week.
- 50:34So I think it's the teams that have the most pitching that
- 50:36you're always going to do. And that's that's UCLA, Texas,
- 50:39Georgia, Georgia tag those kind of teams.
- 50:43If there was a wild cartoon, because you I'm looking at this
- 50:46rankings, right? Because like you said, you
- 50:48mentioned about Landon Harrison. Could you see a team like ASU be
- 50:55a team team that could go on a hot streak?
- 50:57Because if you look at their team, they're they're they're a
- 51:00sleeper in my opinion. Like what are your thoughts
- 51:02about a team like ASU? Yeah, I mean, like, when did
- 51:06they, they played West Virginia like 2-3 weeks ago and it was on
- 51:10Sunday Night Baseball. They had Mike Farran and that
- 51:13was kind of like I, I guess like a coming out party for them.
- 51:17And then since then there's they split with Arizona.
- 51:21Utah beat them in a weekend series and then BYU run rolled
- 51:27them today. I mean, when they're hot, like
- 51:30they're one of the hottest teams in the country, but it always
- 51:32feels like they kind of disappoint, if you will, a
- 51:37little bit down the stretch. So it'll be interesting to see
- 51:39because I'll get to see them right before the tournament as
- 51:44they're playing at Houston before they go back home.
- 51:47So I'm I'm kind of excited to see them up close and personal
- 51:50when they're one of my favorite teams in the country.
- 51:53Obviously it seems like under Willy Bloom quest, they always
- 51:56lose some stupid series that they shouldn't.
- 51:58I mean, if they're getting out of the way this week.
- 52:00So it's, it's always, they always are like the them and UCF
- 52:05are always like the best teams in the Big 12 on paper, but they
- 52:08always lose to somebody stupid and they're always like a few
- 52:11times behind. A couple of nights ago I was
- 52:16watching college baseball. I was on the Big 10 network and
- 52:21there was a hell of a game between UC Santa Barbara and and
- 52:24#1 UCLA and they they ended their 20 game, 27 game win
- 52:28streak. What were your thoughts on that?
- 52:31Well, First off, I wish it wouldn't have been that weekend
- 52:33because they did so, so much for Jackie Robinson Day.
- 52:38You know, they had his granddaughter design the
- 52:40uniforms. And I mean, Jackie Robinson's
- 52:44probably my favorite baseball player of all time, like set
- 52:47aside or anything you need to deal with personally on and off
- 52:50the field, but he's just a phenomenal baseball player.
- 52:54Like I watched a video today about his 1949 MVP season and he
- 52:58struck out like I think less than 5% of the time.
- 53:01But you know, they, they, so they have his, his family
- 53:05members out there. They designed this great uniform
- 53:08and then unfortunately they they lose a historic winning streak.
- 53:12But I mean, that's bound to happen.
- 53:14I think at times like and we see all the time these midweek teams
- 53:18like preference. Houston is last in the Big 12
- 53:21and they beat Texas, Texas State beat A&M.
- 53:24So like, I really wouldn't think it feels weird to say because,
- 53:27you know, I went to college game to grow and every game is so
- 53:29important. But I mean, UCLA just went out
- 53:32to Rutgers and beat Rutgers. Like there's not even like MLB
- 53:36teams that could do a cross country road trip and sweep like
- 53:39that. So I think that you know, if
- 53:41any, if anybody's learned earned like a pass or like I think it's
- 53:46UCLA. UCLA, yeah.
- 53:50But I mean Sam over is good. Like I mean, they they have a
- 53:53solid group of arms. I know the big W is kind of a
- 53:56log jam right now, but I mean I wouldn't want to see them in my
- 53:58regional. Yeah, yeah, I was looking at I
- 54:01was watching a game and they got some good arms out of that on
- 54:05their team coming out of their pen, man, like just some good
- 54:08solid, you know, arms and and, you know, college baseball on
- 54:13TV, it doesn't show you like, you know, like speeds and stuff
- 54:16like that. But man, those they were
- 54:18chucking it, man. Like you could see like these
- 54:21guys had good arms, so. Yeah.
- 54:23I mean, they're a factory. They they always kind of produce
- 54:25really, really great arms. Yeah.
- 54:29Well, Jake, we appreciate you doing this.
- 54:32This was this was awesome, man. All right, Like we, we always
- 54:35appreciate your knowledge and your, your hard work, you know,
- 54:38giving us the value of, you know, all the opinions and
- 54:41what's going on. Thanks once again.
- 54:44And where can we find you? In social media and everywhere
- 54:46else? Just follow our main page,
- 54:49College Baseball Central, and then my personal page.
- 54:52That's CBC. Jake MCKII usually go to about a
- 54:56game or two a weekend. I'm going to be at LSUA and M.
- 54:58Last week I got to see UL, Alabama and Mississippi State.
- 55:01So I mean, I'm traveling all around.
- 55:03I'm going to be out at UCLA for that regional.
- 55:05So it's a great time to follow college baseball.
- 55:10That's awesome man, that should be a hell of a time watching
- 55:12that team play. And I'm really hoping USC kind
- 55:15of plays back into hosting again because they were upset to host
- 55:18for a little bit. So I can see both of them, but
- 55:21you know. That's cool.
- 55:23I'd be happy to just see UCLA. Well, thanks again, man.
- 55:27We always love having you on. Like Rocky said, you're one of
- 55:30our favorite people to have on the show, so we appreciate it.
- 55:34Thank you very much man. Thanks, that really means a lot.
- 55:36Take care guys. All right, we will place the
- 55:39description below where you can find Jake McKeever.
- 55:42It's in social media and everywhere else.
- 55:43But till next time, take care, be kind to each other.
- 55:46Signing off from Sports Ave. Twisted Podcasts on Thursday,
- 55:50April 16th, 2026.