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Pheasant hunting in South Dakota | Whitetail hunting in New Jersey · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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  All right, well. Take 2.
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  Yes take two because I filmed the last 30 minutes of this
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  podcast that we will be redoing without any mics on.
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  So there was 0 sound very little sound yes, but anyway so welcome
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  to another episode of Bo disciples podcasts on the road
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  edition. James.
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  We've both been kind of taking our own vacation trips.
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  You know when you. Oh.
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  Oh, they're just playing. Uh huh.
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  Yeah. Search your dominance, Avery.
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  Put her on the ground. Or down anyways.
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  Oh Lord. James took his trip with.
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  Scott to pick up his truck in Illinois, not Illinois,
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  Illinois. And he filmed with the Working
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  Class Bowhunter podcast and then filmed a podcast in Nebraska
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  with Ethan. I'm going to butcher his last
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  name, Burrum Burnham Burrum. I don't know.
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  I don't think there's an end, but I'm.
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  I don't think there's an end either.
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  I think you just burrum, but I don't know if you say it like
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  that or Burr ham, not sure. And then I flew out here to do
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  some stuff with you. So we're kind of vacation
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  hunting slash getting some. Work filmed and whatnot created.
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  Yeah. And unfortunately, this may be
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  an abbreviated version of everything we just did because
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  we're on a time crunch to get back out in the field.
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  But I flew into Sioux Falls, you guys had driven from New Jersey
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  to there to pick me up in South Dakota.
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  And then we complete the last three hours to go our first time
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  pheasant hunting. Yes.
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  Which as I previously stated, 10 out of 10 recommend for everyone
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  if you, if you're looking, if you're interested in trying a
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  hunt you've never done before. Although maybe this is maybe
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  everybody's already pheasant Haunted and you know, it's not a
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  new thing to anybody. But if you haven't Pheasant
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  haunted before, I would definitely recommend it.
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  It is like I said, relatively inexpensive game to hunt
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  considering you know other options when in in comparison
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  when you know, when it comes to like hunting large game species,
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  big game species you know can get quite costly.
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  So relatively inexpensive. And also there are a ton of
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  Outfitters and options out there, from fully guided to
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  self-guided options and public lands options that are even more
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  inexpensive. So definitely something worth.
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  Doing a little research on. But the the outfitter that we
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  used was great. The lodging was really nice.
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  If there were, you know, when it comes to pheasant hunting, there
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  are two different styles of hunting.
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  You can hunt wild game birds or you can hunt stocked birds and
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  in certain states where pheasants don't, you know, live,
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  that stock birds may be the only option and it it's a fun hunt.
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  We were hunting wild game birds in South Dakota.
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  There were some Outfitters nearby that stock birds as well
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  as having wild game birds, but they stock birds for.
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  You know they only. Stock Roosters, so the more
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  birds, and I will, I'll jump. In there and say it's relatively
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  inexpensive. Dependent on what level of
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  lodging and what not you want like.
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  Stock birds? What type of prices?
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  Can go up a little bit more and then if you're looking for
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  luxuries, like if you want the big old, you know, stone
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  fireplace with a lobster dinner every night, like, right, you
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  know, with a, you know, outfit or store inside where you can
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  buy all your upland clothing and whatnot and rent your guns.
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  And prices can vary. But if you, you know, own your
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  own shotgun and you know just want to go out on a pheasant
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  hunt and throw some orange on, you can find it for very
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  inexpensive prices. And then that brings me to, you
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  know, when it comes to luxuries, something that I think is a
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  requirement, not a luxury, but. A dog.
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  A bird dog. Either if you don't have a bird
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  dog, use an outfitter that will you know is really guided that
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  provides a bird dog you know it, or find a friend who has a bird
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  dog that's wanting to go on on a pheasant hunting trip or
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  something of that nature because definitely.
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  More birds will jump. Up with the dogs running them
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  than you just walking and trying to jump up bird dogs to the.
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  Prairie on top of birds retrieval is much easier because
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  these birds are fast birds and if you didn't knock that thing
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  dead out of the sky, you can retrieve that bird.
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  Problem is, you're going to need the dog to.
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  Retrieve it because that bird is gone the second it hits the
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  ground. It is running like a Roadrunner
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  and the dog is much faster than you as a human, and they're
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  going to get there. Follow that scent and find the
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  bird. Quickly pick it up and bring it
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  back. To you.
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  So yeah. But anyways, that was pheasant
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  hunting. We'll keep it quite simple.
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  Great time, highly recommend. We'll be doing it next year.
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  Thanks for the invite, I will be coming.
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  Welcome. Maybe next year, another new
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  state, you stay unlocked. I keep saying Montana.
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  Well, that most people, I guess not most people, the few people
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  that I choose to share it with. That's like that's the goal of
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  mine is to hunt a species in every state.
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  Some people, you know, they have the to to kill the 49 turkeys,
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  one in every state and everybody's got or to kill the
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  the big game, What's the world slam or, you know, all the
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  different things, bucket list items and checklist and things.
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  But I just would like to hunt a species in every state.
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  So having done South Dakota and a new species, new species, new
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  state, which you. Denied me.
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  Whoops. We'll get into that lead to
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  Jersey, but yeah, so maybe next year North Dakota or Montana,
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  something like that. Yeah, might be.
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  Anyway. So then we hopped in a vehicle
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  at at 6:30 in the morning and drove for about 24 hours.
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  And that is the longest straight pole I have ever taken.
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  I've done some like 16. I don't even think so.
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  Like I've done 16 hour Rd. trips.
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  But we, we broke it up into two but 24 hours straight and
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  arrived here in New Jersey. We haunted birds for four days
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  and then we were here to hunt white tails for 3 1/2 days.
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  So. We did that pole.
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  In order to be able to take a quick nap and then get an extra
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  afternoon sit in. So we got 3 1/2 instead of three
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  full days. And it's just, it's so
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  interesting when you watch like Youtubes and TV and whatnot.
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  And obviously, as I just explained, I keep thinking about
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  the fact that we just filmed this, but we take wind.
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  It's the number one thing in mule deer hunting in our
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  opinions and James's opinion, in my opinion, when you're
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  spotting, stalking. But here sometimes you think
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  like in a tree, your scent is above them or what not.
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  Like for elk example, I don't put scent first.
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  Well, maybe I put scent first. I can't remember scent or sight
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  first sound last for elk because they make so much sound on their
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  own. Like you could roll rocks.
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  And. Be kind of OK, but you think
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  you're up in that tree and like OK, my thermals are up above
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  them. Like Nope, thermal still sucked
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  down. And so scent has been a
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  unfortunate thing here and you can eliminate scent all you
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  want. I mean, we're using scent
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  killer, scent free shampoo, conditioner.
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  Scent away, nose jammer. All the things.
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  Clothes in the corn bags, but hanging the clothes outside all
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  night long. Yes, but wind is still it's a
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  game changer. So they have a predominant wind
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  here and like everywhere, but unfortunately with this little
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  pressure system that's been rolling in into this storm.
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  That we've been getting non predominant winds, northeast
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  winds. Yeah, and that and that's not
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  where the stands are set up for. So I've seen a little different
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  experience in the blind. I sat the first half of the trip
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  in comparison to me sitting the stand last night, I said, as I
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  said earlier, I I told James I didn't really believe it until I
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  sat it last night and it was just like deer after deer, like
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  sat there for hours seeing nothing.
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  And then that last magic hour and a half kicked in and boom,
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  all of a sudden a buck comes chasing a doe.
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  Small basket rack, but you know, gone.
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  I'm like, Oh, well, that's not, you know, wind like they were
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  he's chasing pushing the still. She's hot, but she comes back in
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  afterwards by herself and immediately just nervous as all
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  get out. And with that, you're
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  automatically putting the deer on alert because they sent
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  human. They sent something not of the
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  normal. And so the buck came back in
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  from the side and just his sound alone had her.
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  So she's already on alert that she just.
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  Booked it. Gone and then all of a sudden
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  just a horde of doe start coming in and two younger Dumber ones
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  scented their way all the way in like they knew something was not
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  right but they came into the corner.
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  The rest of them didn't even give the chance.
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  They. They're young, they haven't been
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  educated. Yet yeah, the the other three
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  hung up at 60 ish yards and turn around and absolutely we're like
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  no, no thank you. Turn around and left.
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  I saw the big one there that. We call him Goofy I.
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  Guess at about 100 plus when I ranged him I got 75 but I'm sure
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  I was hitting brush and twigs. On the way there.
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  Because he was so far out, so I'm guessing it was more about
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  100. And I watched him just scenting
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  those doughs. He kind of turned toward me for,
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  you know, maybe 10-15 yards. And then he followed the scent
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  of those doughs that never came in back up into their bedding
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  area. And then he appeared on camera
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  up the way few 100 yards is another tree stand you'd been
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  sitting so very smart. Just you know, he'd probably
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  been there all afternoon, bedded and smart enough to say I'm not
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  I'm not coming into that and wandered up to the other pile.
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  So since been a killer this this.
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  Trip wind. Well, wind, you know, it doesn't
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  matter how much you hide your scent if your wind is not right.
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  Yep. Yeah, I, I'm, I firmly believe
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  that you could just wash your clothes and tide.
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  And as long as your wind is right, you know you have to be
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  careful of thermals. Yeah, I don't go that far
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  because I've met people that do that.
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  And here's where it kills you. Wind always.
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  You're never going to always have a predominant wind.
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  Wind will swirl throughout your sit, your stalk, your whatever
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  you're doing. And the second it swirls, if you
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  are too close, you just screwed yourself.
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  Something that you could have eliminated to just made them
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  question it. Yeah, now they're gone.
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  So. No matter what you're wearing,
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  your sense as a human, the scent that you give off that we can't
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  always smell, you can't cover that.
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  Yeah, IE your secret deodorant your your drive ship to.
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  When you breathe. Yep, all of that still plays a
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  factor. And just your human scent alone,
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  your sweat, you know, your aroma, whatever your pheromones,
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  whatever you want to call it, still plays a factor in it.
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  So if you can eliminate as much of it as possible, you're going
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  to be somewhat better off in, you know, in a sketchy
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  situation. But yeah, so we've seen a ton.
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  Yeah, I've seen 3 shooters every sit.
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  I I've only seen the one you know, but if that seven point
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  comes to. Mind, and it's going to be.
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  Real hard to not shoot him if he comes in at like 3:00 in the
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  afternoon. I mean very difficult to not
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  just, I mean I might just try the bone just to like put my pin
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  on him and see what happens. She just we know what's.
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  Going to happen. Put the pin on.
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  I did not purchase A tag to not shoot a deer, so if a deer
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  provides an opportunity, I'm not looking for trophies now I know
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  there's a nice one going. In there you purchase A tag, you
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  purchased a license, and from the month of September and
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  October, your license in New Jersey comes with that first,
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  the first $2.00 permits. Exactly.
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  See. Now, however, in the September.
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  2 So like I could just sit there and wait for.
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  I think it's just the one. Actually, I think I misspoke.
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  I think. I don't think you misspoke.
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  I don't think you did. I mean, there might be property
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  rules, IE from the lessee, but you know.
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  Or the head guy he's. A friend of a friend.
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  So like you know anyways. But.
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  Wind has been rough. Wind has been tough and so has
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  the temperature. Yeah, well, lots of things
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  happened when you experienced your first morning set, so why
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  don't you? Why don't you go ahead And oh,
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  it was. About that morning.
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  Well, I can see it over on my channel whenever I get the video
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  done put up. You know this.
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  Is why you need to wear a GoPro filming at all times, because
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  how hilarious would it? I'm going to recreate it from a
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  much lower distance one just so people could see the importance
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  of, you know, making sure that you're you're the deregulate.
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  That happens again. What if you?
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  Even from a short distance. Stab yourself with a stick when
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  it happens. I'm going to.
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  I'll check my surroundings. I'm just going to do it from
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  like 5 feet, 6 feet. That is about the dumbest.
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  Thing I've ever heard just long enough to work purposely does
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  that for the education, for the knowledge.
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  Anyways, so I I got all the way to the top of my stands and I
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  hunt in a saddle and. Disclaimer This is by no means
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  the fault of the saddle, the saddle company, the rope, the.
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  Not at all. I've went in a lot of different
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  brands of saddles, climbed 10s of different brands of sticks,
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  and all of them perfectly safe. User.
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  Completely user error. So I I got up to the top and got
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  everything sat down and I could tell that something was like a
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  little bit uncomfortable. And it turns out what I had
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  actually done is when I walk in, I put my bridge underneath my
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  belt, which is just am steel belt.
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  And so I put it up underneath and kind of pull it up.
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  Anybody who's saddle Huntsville knows, you know what what I mean
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  by bridge and belt. And anyways, yeah, so I tucked
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  my bridge under my belt and pull it up.
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  And it's just so it's not kind of like hanging around as you're
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  walking through the woods. And when you went up, you left
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  it like that. Well, yeah.
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  When I went up so I could feel a pinch on my hips that I don't
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  normally feel and so I was trying to adjust my tether to
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  get more comfortable. Well, can I ask a?
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  Question. Why don't you just?
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  Stand up on the platform for a second, like, unhook yourself
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  and like. Well, that's what I did, but at
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  that time I didn't realize that that's the mistake that I had
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  made, that I had my bridge in the wrong place.
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  I didn't know that yet. That was, I thought I had my
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  tension on my tether too loose or too tight.
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  So I was adjusting my tether for a little bit more like comfort
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  leaning, you know, back and I just thought anyways, so I
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  thought my tether was too tight. That was what was causing the
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  pinch pull up too much. So I went to loosen my tether
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  and I was just leaning just a little bit too far back in my
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  saddle. So when that knot came loose and
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  some people would use like I forget with it rope min, you
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  know, they're like a don't know how to describe this too.
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  But anyways, it's like a tool that locks and loosens and
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  anyways, and I have used something like that.
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  There's nothing wrong with that, but there's not system.
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  There's also nothing wrong with it as long as you use it
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  correctly. But it's only my second or third
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  sit with this particular tether. So I was just putting a little
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  bit too much tension or pulling a little in.
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  Anyways, when that knot came loose and I was just leaning a
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  little bit too far it I went backwards off the platform all
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  in the all the way to the end of my tether.
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  The only thing that kept me from falling 15 feet out of the tree
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  is that the knot at the very end of the the tether rock, the
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  tether rope. The safety knot caught the knot
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  on the tether and so I fell, probably, I don't know, 6 feet,
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  slammed into the tree, cut my finger, got this little blood
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  blister. You got lots of.
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  I've got done some damage to this particular arm this.
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  Trip a lot of memories on that. Hand, yeah.
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  So anyways, managed to swing myself around, climb back up
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  into an ater, pull myself back up, get my lineman back on the
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  tree. So I was attached, you know,
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  fully to something tight and climb back up to fix my tether.
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  That's when I realized what was causing the pinch.
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  And you know, with my correcting, with my with my
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  lineman on, I could then, you know, unhook my tether so I
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  still have a point of contact to the tree if I fall and got
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  everything situated. All this just before daylight.
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  And all this while I could still hear deer walking around out,
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  you know, in the woods, dangling 8 feet from the top of my
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  platform. So anyways, after you fell out
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  of your. Tree got back in your.
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  Tree and up to your platform you were supposed to sit until about
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  10:10. 30 And how'd that go for you?
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  I made it to 94510 o'clock. Yeah, I got a text.
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  At 9:15. No, it was about 83845.
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  I think I was just checking to see if you guys were up.
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  Sure, Sure. Yeah.
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  I think believe, I believe what you actually said was that you
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  texted Brian and he didn't respond.
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  So then you texted me because you were looking for a.
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  Pickup. Yeah.
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  I'm not looking for a pickup. Just, you know, trying to chat,
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  trying to, you know, keep my mind engaged so my body didn't
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  freeze to death, freeze to death, freeze to death.
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  It was 41°. It's not even freezing
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  temperatures pretty. That's almost 2° or under.
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  That was a whole almost 10. Degrees off of freezing, yeah.
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  So you want to move to this state, but we're not even went
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  like the trees aren't even fully dead yet.
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  Like they're not even in winter, they're so.
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  Beautiful. Some green ones.
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  There's lots of green ones. Actually, along with some.
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  Red and orange ones, but and you're freezing it's.
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  Like the ton here, though, but it's just cold.
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  It's very cold, yeah. Yeah, I'm very interested to see
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  how you survive a full winter. Yes, baby girl.
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  Yes, little bird dog. She's like, you've been inside
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  too long. I need to go outside.
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  You need to throw me some toys I need.
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  To throw my bumper for me. Throw my bumper for me.
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  I can retrieve it for you, but I'm gonna get over.
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  So temperatures have been mildly cold.
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  Very. I'll put it mildly, Cold
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  freezing, almost. Very achievable to sit with just
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  the correct set of boots. You know, a thermal layer
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  underneath and. That's about it.
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  Yeah, but we still have. This is our last afternoon
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  tonight and things are looking promising on my cameras.
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  I had been sitting there for half the trip and a buck that we
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  had been waiting to come in been very regular.
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  Not pretty regular, very regular.
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  I disappeared off the camera for a while, Not for a while, like
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  when I got there literally the day before.
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  And so it is starting to rut here, which means I think some
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  Doe's just kind of pulled him away from his typical area and
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  he showed back up early. This morning, Oh yeah, early
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  this morning and. So likelihood is Brian knows his
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  properties, he manages very well and typically means that from
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  what he's seen patterned out is he's bedded within that that
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  block now and so should hopefully cross our fingers.
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  Knock on wood, show back up this evening for a little snack.
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  I'm hoping what brought him back over is whatever goes he was was
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  following and hopefully they come in and then therefore he
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  follows them in. So I'm hopeful for this
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  afternoon. Sit.
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  We still don't know what your plan is.
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  Not sure, not sure. No no no no.
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  I'm going to go in and take my saddle set down and just go sit
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  a ladder sand somewhere that might, but even all the other
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  ladder sands on the properties have are not great for that
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  northeast wind. So really need to be in a blind,
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  but the only other blind option is on a field that hasn't been
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  baited it a while and they usually would come out and feed
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  on that hay at night in there. Thought about pulling my ladder
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  stand or my my saddle setup down and setting up on that corner.
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  We walked out last night just on a whim that maybe a little buck
• 22:00
  will move through there going to that pumpkin patch.
• 22:03
  That's what we talked about last night.
• 22:05
  So I can set that up correctly for Northeast.
• 22:08
  Wind by wind will push back into the pond.
• 22:10
  So they should move in on their way to that pumpkin patch.
• 22:14
  That's possible. So it's a thought I don't know.
• 22:17
  We'll see. Yeah.
• 22:18
  Well, last thing we'll talk about real quick I guess is you
• 22:22
  just said it there. We had discussed it in our
• 22:25
  previous 30 minutes, but is baiting.
• 22:31
  So I call it like you're just sitting in the corn pile.
• 22:33
  You guys call it baiting. Every state is different and
• 22:37
  people have their ethics or people or morals, who knows
• 22:41
  whatever you want to call them. But every state is different.
• 22:45
  And here and myself, yeah, I'm good here.
• 22:51
  Baiting or you know, dropping corn, whatever you want to do is
• 22:55
  legal and then dependent on the species, IE hunting whitetail.
• 23:00
  Right now there is no minimum requirement for your distance.
• 23:04
  You must sit from the bait. Yeah, so as.
• 23:07
  Like I said earlier, no matter where or what state you're in,
• 23:10
  you should always check your rules, regulations, the state
• 23:13
  laws, the season. Because every state is
• 23:17
  different, every species different, every weapon can be
• 23:19
  different. So just because you can hunt on
• 23:23
  a bait pile during deer season does not mean you can hunt on a
• 23:26
  bait pile during bear season. So it and just because you heard
• 23:31
  it from somebody that you can do this in one state doesn't mean
• 23:34
  you can also do this in another state.
• 23:36
  A lot of people will know that. But also there are a lot of
• 23:38
  people, you know, who will listen to something, getting
• 23:42
  into something and they don't know the difference.
• 23:43
  So, you know, just always do your own research.
• 23:47
  Yeah. And it you know, the make sure,
• 23:51
  you know, you know what the laws are and don't just assume.
• 23:56
  And but yeah, so we could sit on on corn here in New Jersey and
• 24:02
  during archery during deer season.
• 24:04
  And the ethics versus legality of it, I think is a, you know, a
• 24:10
  long standing argument. And like you were saying
• 24:15
  earlier, you know, if it's legal, you're going to do it.
• 24:18
  You know, it's not an argument of ethics if it's legal.
• 24:21
  Then you can do. It and you will do it and that
• 24:25
  is, you know, to each their own. I mean, it's, it's not a
• 24:30
  guarantee. Just because you no you bait
• 24:33
  does not mean I mean if if that meant that the the deer had no
• 24:37
  sporting chance against the hunter in the stands.
• 24:40
  I would have killed 3 deer already. 1A day this week but I
• 24:44
  haven't had but one shooter walk through the corn, gave me no
• 24:47
  shot, walked in, walked out and that was it.
• 24:50
  Yeah, their instincts don't disappear, you know.
• 24:52
  They are running. Wild their their predominant
• 24:55
  instinct is to sniff out that dough.
• 24:57
  And just because they're sitting there eating corn doesn't mean
• 25:00
  all they smell is corn. You know, like I explained those
• 25:03
  ones in that tree stand I sat last night, they were winding me
• 25:08
  the entire time. Most of the deer, 90% of the
• 25:12
  deer I saw last night, I could see them running all around
• 25:14
  through the trees, just chasing each other around.
• 25:17
  But not necessarily in the gorm, but yeah as.
• 25:19
  Soon as they came up near anywhere near, I mean they were
• 25:21
  probably at least 60 yards out. They said the majority of them
• 25:25
  said no, no chance, turn around, booked it back out.
• 25:30
  So it they don't just lose all senses because there's a bait
• 25:34
  pile quote, UN quote sitting in front of them.
• 25:37
  But yeah, so it's been a very fun trip.
• 25:40
  Stuff. We'll I think we'll do annually,
• 25:41
  especially once you make the move up here.
• 25:43
  I'm thankful you're moving to a state that allows for a better
• 25:46
  deer population than where you currently are.
• 25:49
  A lot of deer. Yeah, out of deer I'll throw,
• 25:53
  you know, I got to do a James, so I'll throw a plug in there.
• 25:56
  Team BD, go to badlands.com and say to you, I believe, don't
• 26:02
  quote me, I believe 20%. And I've been wearing it this
• 26:06
  entire trip and I've been good with literally a set of the I
• 26:11
  had the light long Johns on. If I had the the heavy ones on,
• 26:14
  I would have been cozy as a cup. Do you know how many times I
• 26:17
  fell asleep in my stand last night?
• 26:18
  What? I would wake up.
• 26:23
  I was just so cozy. You're over like.
• 26:25
  Wondering like I would text you and was like she hasn't answered
• 26:29
  like I wonder what? She's doing, I was sleeping.
• 26:31
  Maybe she's on the lookout. Maybe she's like, I'd be on the
• 26:35
  lookout. And then like, you know, my
• 26:36
  zipper comes up to like here. So my chin was just so warm that
• 26:39
  when my head dropped, I'd be like, yeah, OK, Wake.
• 26:42
  Back. I agree.
• 26:43
  I fall asleep in a deer stand. My I never have.
• 26:45
  I could fall asleep like nobody's business in a deer
• 26:48
  stand. It's so comfortable and I had
• 26:50
  the bar up too. Good thing I didn't go into a
• 26:52
  heavy sleep. I would have fell right out of
• 26:53
  the front of the stand. But I was too nervous because
• 26:56
  I'm short and it doesn't sit as low the spacing from my feet to
• 26:59
  the seat that if I stood my Cam would not hit the bar so I just
• 27:05
  put the bar up so. Warm in your Badlands?
• 27:08
  Yeah, Team BD will save you 20% and you don't need a bunch of
• 27:12
  layers to stay warm. And then we are obviously
• 27:16
  hunting here cuz you have relations with.
• 27:23
  Strange way to say. Yeah, with the the guide and
• 27:27
  outfitter who runs the I think. What you're trying to say is if
• 27:30
  you're looking for a good place time, you're trying to check on
• 27:33
  who stayed off or something of that nature is Flight Cancelled
• 27:36
  Outfitters. You can find them on Facebook.
• 27:39
  You can find them on Instagram, FCO, Flight Cancelled Outfitters
• 27:43
  and message Brian For more information.
• 27:45
  I am almost finished with his website so you should be seeing
• 27:49
  that. On that.
• 27:50
  You should be seeing that coming soon, that he's got over 2000
• 27:54
  acres, over 2000 up here over. Yeah, something like that.
• 27:59
  I don't know the exact. I'll have to go back and check
• 28:02
  my facts but. It'll be on the website
• 28:03
  whenever. You it'll be on the website
• 28:05
  thousands of acres of property here in the Central Jersey area
• 28:10
  and beautiful place to hunt. Since I've been hunting here the
• 28:15
  I've made a couple posts and things and the comments have all
• 28:18
  been not a lot of people dare come to the Garden State or
• 28:20
  think of the Garden State or try to big one in the Garden State
• 28:24
  and it it's shocking to me because there are so many deer
• 28:28
  here beautiful. Jane has asked me that a lot, I
• 28:31
  think two or three times. And I've just kind of like
• 28:33
  haven't answered it because I don't know how to answer it yet.
• 28:36
  Mostly because we're driving through the town at night and
• 28:38
  not during the daytime for the route that we take to our spots.
• 28:41
  But he's asked like, what's the town like?
• 28:44
  And I think most people also like myself and James because he
• 28:47
  was such a big fan of it and I only know it because he loved
• 28:50
  the show, is Jersey Shore. And you?
• 28:53
  Think Jersey and you think Jersey, and that is by no means
• 28:58
  the. Majority of this state, no.
• 29:00
  I mean, where we are is just such a I describe it as a
• 29:03
  country town. Like literally Brian grew up
• 29:08
  farming, pulling tractors. You know that there's a special
• 29:10
  license you can get before you have a actual driver's license
• 29:14
  that's just for farming. So you as a 15 year old you can
• 29:18
  drive the roads with a tractor or you can even drive a truck
• 29:22
  like a truck if if you're using it to get to a farm field to.
• 29:26
  Farm. Yeah, that's nuts.
• 29:28
  Yeah, but like, that's just like when we went to his dad's house
• 29:32
  last night and there's pictures of them.
• 29:33
  Like he showed us the video. Like when you go to the fair,
• 29:36
  like back home we had FFA and 4H and you sell your.
• 29:39
  Which they? Ow and pig and whatnot, but even
• 29:43
  in California they have it. They have pig racing at the
• 29:47
  fair. One of the world's largest fairs
• 29:49
  actually. But.
• 29:53
  They. Pull tractors.
• 29:54
  So like when you see like the strong dudes like pulling a semi
• 29:57
  truck like it would be like how much can your tractor?
• 30:00
  Pull Well, that's what I think is unique about Jersey.
• 30:03
  That is reminds me of Florida. You know, the weather, obviously
• 30:07
  polar opposites, but in Florida, I can be in the woods in an hour
• 30:11
  and I can be at the beach in an hour.
• 30:13
  Like I you know, you could be in town in an hour.
• 30:16
  You can be anywhere you want within an hour or two hours.
• 30:19
  And in Jersey, it's very much sent in an hour, hour than half.
• 30:23
  You could be at the ocean, you could be in the water, you could
• 30:27
  be in the woods, you can be in an AD field like there.
• 30:31
  It's a very versatile states. Your laws are definitely
• 30:35
  different here. There's some unique things.
• 30:37
  You know you have to do your research.
• 30:40
  Well, then I wouldn't say there's there's definitely more
• 30:42
  game, but there's not like more diverse game because there is in
• 30:46
  Florida too. It's just like, you know, you
• 30:48
  hunt a bear here, you hunt an iguana there, you know, you hunt
• 30:51
  a fox here, you hunt a Python there, Python there, just a
• 30:58
  little different type of species.
• 31:00
  But a lot different but diverse still like you.
• 31:02
  You have bear hunting, you're do whitetail hunting, you have fox,
• 31:06
  you have coyote, you have Bunny, you have, you know, just
• 31:11
  anything like you could think of and there's a.
• 31:14
  Lot of wooded. Area that you wouldn't think is
• 31:17
  in the garden still. And there's tons of public land
• 31:20
  up here too. Yeah, for some people that are
• 31:23
  die hard public land hunters, not looking for Outfitters.
• 31:26
  I mean, there's tons of public land here.
• 31:28
  Now. It's tricky because a lot of
• 31:29
  people hunt here, so it can be very pressured.
• 31:32
  But that's the outfitter situation is nice on his.
• 31:35
  Prices are, I mean, when I heard him I was like, who wouldn't do
• 31:39
  it for an outfitter who manages his properties, You have better
• 31:43
  chances than just showing up and trying to hunt public.
• 31:46
  Now I love public. It's predominantly.
• 31:48
  I love public for the education, but it teaches you a lot.
• 31:51
  It's like to become a great Archer, you've got to learn to
• 31:57
  work on your own equipment. The more you know something, the
• 32:00
  better you know how to use it. Personally, I think so.
• 32:04
  It's the same with public land, woods, or even like with an
• 32:08
  outfitter. The more you know you guide, the
• 32:10
  more you work your own land, the the more you understand deer
• 32:15
  movement, the more you understand habitat.
• 32:17
  And it's the same for the average hunter going to public.
• 32:20
  Who doesn't have a lease to exactly someone who doesn't have
• 32:24
  a lease to man manage. You can learn the same things on
• 32:27
  public and we've. Always, I have always.
• 32:29
  We've had many discussions about this both on pods and off of
• 32:32
  them. Unlike the different varieties
• 32:36
  or levels of private hunting's like starting all the way from
• 32:41
  the bottom of just public land to, you know, no, like not just
• 32:47
  low fence or no fence, but like, just like like Brian, an
• 32:51
  outfitter who manages private pieces of property.
• 32:55
  But there's nothing stopping those deer from moving out to a
• 32:59
  piece of public or moving over to like the one that you've been
• 33:01
  hunting that'll border, you know, like a gun club or
• 33:05
  something or another piece of private or whatever.
• 33:09
  You know, there's that level, then there's like low fence
• 33:12
  level, then there's high fence, then there's imported high
• 33:17
  fence. Yeah.
• 33:18
  And I've never been a fan of. I'm not saying don't do it
• 33:22
  because sometimes people always talk about what?
• 33:25
  It's nice. You could take three weeks to go
• 33:26
  hunting. That's why you're so successful
• 33:28
  in public. Yes.
• 33:29
  Yes. True facts.
• 33:30
  I'm not lying. That is why along with having
• 33:33
  skill and knowledge, but that is a part of it.
• 33:37
  So like, if you work a nine to five job and you can only take
• 33:41
  one weekend off and you love and live on that deer meat or
• 33:45
  whatever animal you're hunting, and it's not just for a trophy
• 33:50
  go high fence hunt. I'm not saying I'm going to, but
• 33:54
  if that's your only way to make it happen and you love hunting
• 33:57
  and you love the meat that you get, great.
• 33:59
  I'm just saying I'm not a fan of like going out because like I
• 34:02
  wanted to get, you know, a really big access.
• 34:04
  So instead of going and working for it, I jumped over to this
• 34:07
  high fence. Again, I'm not a ruffle a lot of
• 34:10
  feathers here in these this conversation, but I think what
• 34:15
  Brian does is the best happy medium that I enjoy to
• 34:23
  outfitting. Like, you know, coming here is a
• 34:26
  very realistic experience to like if you had this property
• 34:30
  yourself and managed it, you know, like there's nothing super
• 34:35
  easy about this still like and but you will see deer and with
• 34:40
  good winds I. Feel you're the 10 or 20 deer a
• 34:44
  day, 2 to 3 shooters a day. You know it and I'm a bit more.
• 34:49
  I know you know you knock me for it, but I'm a very picky when it
• 34:55
  comes to. Yeah, I'd say it cost you some
• 34:57
  deer. Sometimes yes I'm 100% agree
• 35:00
  with that but I'm very picky when it comes to the the ethical
• 35:05
  Ness if that's a word of my shots.
• 35:08
  If I'm going to shoot something I want it to be I feel 99.9%
• 35:13
  confident I'm going to harvest it.
• 35:15
  I'm not going to risk. It wait for you to experience
• 35:17
  Arizona. It's going to.
• 35:19
  Be I'm sure I'll probably be unsuccessful the first couple
• 35:22
  times, no doubt. Depends on what we see.
• 35:25
  You know, if there's a chalk up, it's it's very still it's it's
• 35:27
  possible. How would you like to close this
• 35:30
  out? But anyways, yeah, I know I said
• 35:32
  that as as wrapping it up, but anyways, when Brittany finishes
• 35:35
  the website, it'll be out. But go to Instagram, Facebook
• 35:38
  flight cancelled Outfitters outfits, not outdoors, right out
• 35:43
  cancelled Outfitters. And it's not just deer hunts.
• 35:46
  You know his. Eastern Turkey hunts here in
• 35:48
  Central Jersey. Also, he's running an outfit now
• 35:52
  in flight cancel outfit are still in Central Florida and a
• 35:56
  really nice piece in the North Florida area.
• 36:00
  But Central Florida very close to the Highway 70 line for the
• 36:05
  the elusive, elusive Ceola. Which I'm like, yeah.
• 36:11
  And waterfall hunts, Goose hunts.
• 36:13
  Geese. They are called geese in the
• 36:15
  plural. I know.
• 36:16
  Apparently here it's a goose. Hunt but for geese anyway.
• 36:24
  But anyway, so you can go check them out, Facebook, Instagram,
• 36:27
  and it's been it's been fun to see and experience.
• 36:31
  Sitting in the stand. Again, for in a new state, but
• 36:35
  predominantly nice to sit in a stand in a blind for a little
• 36:38
  while. Not so many miles on the feet
• 36:41
  though. That is, you know, my favorite
• 36:43
  now. But anyways, thank you for
• 36:46
  watching and see you in the next one, wherever that is.
• 36:49
  Who knows what state. If it's back home, you never
• 36:53
  know. That's that.
• 36:54
  I'm going to answer my phone.