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• Olivia: This podcast is for entertainment, informational, educational purposes only. Although the hosts are licensed therapists, this podcast is not a substitute for professional mental health services. Listening to this podcast does not create a therapist-client relationship. back to Brilliant Minds Rabbit Trails, our favorite little vibe session every time. Andrea: I'm just gonna say colors and vibes every single time we do this. Olivia: I mean, will say I use the word vibe a lot more professionally than I really want to. But tell me a better word than vibe. Andrea: If you are experiencing mental health concerns, please seek help from a qualified mental health professional in your area. If you are in crisis, call or text a suicide prevention line in your country immediately. In the U.S., you can call or text 988 or use online chat at 988lifeline.org. Vibe has become such a good word in my vocabulary. Like, it just works. Olivia: yeah yeah if you if you can tell anyone this is open to anyone you can tell me a word that sounds more professional than vibe let me know and don't you dare say frequency cuz I'm gonna hit you with a crystal Andrea: ⁓ no. no. ⁓ Yeah, so somebody on another podcast, somebody on a podcast I listened to said the full word, said vibration, and I was like, nope, nope, are we in a cult? What's happening here? Olivia: Exactly. No. No. This is actually a great segue to have been very curious about something I keep seeing on social media and I think I keep coming up on my algorithm because I keep like watching these videos and being like. Have you seen the thing about the plates that people are like standing on and like jiggling them to death basically? ⁓ Andrea: Yes. Yes, but wasn't this a thing in like the 70s for like weight loss? Olivia: Was it? I don't know. Andrea: I'm fairly certain this was a thing. ⁓ the 70s, maybe it was more like the 60s or ⁓ but it was like you stood on it to lose weight because it would like jiggle the fat off. And then they had a version of it where it was like a band that would go around your hips and butt and it would like. to jiggle the fat off. Olivia: just friction it off like what? ⁓ So when I see it, it's like are talking about, I know. Yeah, yeah. Or like, ⁓ like these are all the ways that it helped me. But they're so ambiguous to how actually it was like, ⁓ like with brain fog. And I'm like, okay, but did you just drink more water? Like I need an actual like analysis of this because like. ⁓ Andrea: Like lymphatic drainage, right? Yeah. What's correlating to it? Olivia: Yes, yeah, exactly. But I've seen this so much and like these videos are getting like so many likes and I'm like, OK, how are they get so many questions? I it and it's just funny to look at, think that's part of like why I stopped on it, because I'm like. Is this like assisted twerking, like what is happening? It was just like what? What? Andrea: Yeah, yeah. Is it mostly white people in these videos? Yeah, I think that's, you know, there's something to that. Olivia: ⁓ a thousand percent. I... yeah. I just... I just find it so interesting. Like, I saw this one and it was this... my god. It just made me laugh. And it was like, like you think like these vibrating things don't work? Well, I'm two months postpartum and I like, don't have any like accidents or whatever that like... You know how... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So yeah, like... Andrea: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Olivia: You're like bladder leakage. Like, oh, I'm too insupposed to pardon him like, I don't have any of these like accidents because of this like vibrating plate. And I'm like. It's not like your pelvic floor is sitting on the vibrating plate. ⁓ can you equate standing on a vibrating plate as what magically makes ⁓ pelvic floor ⁓ less reactive? I'm like, honey, I don't, it was just so funny to me. I was just like, ⁓ like you say it doesn't work. Well, I am like two months postpartum and my bladder doesn't leak. I'm like, Okay, well I was two months postpartum and my boobs stopped creating milk. So, I don't know what to tell you. Andrea: You know, you know that you know that meme of like all of the math symbols going around the head and they're just like Yeah, that's how I feel at the moment like I can get My I'm like my brain is running into a million places trying to explain it and I don't think I need to explain it to myself Because this feels more correlational than yeah Olivia: Yes, yeah, yeah, like the formulas, yeah, yeah. My brain does the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My brain does the same thing of like, well, like, I guess it could make sense. And then I'm like, but how would it make sense? And then I get totally lost in the like, how would it make sense? So I just like move on. Andrea: Right. Right, like are you tightening your abs? Are you tightening, like are you doing pelvic floor exercises as you're vibrating and just like what's happening? Olivia: I couldn't tell you. Andrea: Hmm. Olivia: It does make me more really curious to get one. Not because I think it will do anything, but just like, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. ⁓ influencer things like don't. They don't. Yeah, but this vibrating plate, man, I keep seeing it and that's like, what is going on? ⁓ Andrea: Yeah, they don't grab you. you ever see the videos? I haven't seen one in a really long time and now that I'm gonna say it I'm gonna see it. Those hula hoops with the like ball... ⁓ Olivia: the bald thing, yeah yeah yeah, yeah Andrea: This just feels like another one of those, if I'm being honest. Like, no, no. it's like, I just, can feel the vibration in my head just thinking about this. And that sounds horrible to me. ⁓ Olivia: I would never do one of those hula hoop things. You Andrea: And I just said vibration. Like, no. Just go drive on a road or sit on your washing machine. ⁓ Olivia: You know what? Get on my frequency. Yeah. Get away from your washer. Andrea: I have a brand new one. It doesn't shake that much, but. That's that's what it makes me think of is like just just stand on top of your or sit on top of your dryer and let the vibrations from that you Or get a vibrator ⁓ Olivia: ⁓ my gosh. now it sounds like we're talking about some yeah this now it sounds like we're talking about something entirely different than wellness Andrea: Is that different than wellness though? Because I mean... Olivia: well okay, ⁓ yes, okay, splitting hairs, noo, but you know what I mean Andrea: Sorry, the tism is coming out. I'm going to need to be a little bit logical here because... Olivia: That's the only way we can understand it at this point because it's so confusing. Andrea: So really this is just a unique way of masturbating. don't know how I got there, it's fine. Olivia: ⁓ We're gonna divert. I also was thinking recently about a millennial experience and I'm hoping that you can relate to this. We've never really talked about it directly, but like, with me. ⁓ Andrea: Yes. Okay. I'm on the vibration plate with you. ⁓ Olivia: No, you're not. Let's be very clear. You are not. is a solo experience, friend. ⁓ Andrea: Also, to be very honest, if you get one of those, I will ask to use it when I'm there just for shits and giggles. Okay. Olivia: No, I know if I did, absolutely. I don't think I will because I don't like to spend money on things like that. But it's been in the back of my mind. OK, 2016 to like 2019. Did you get like stupidly into makeup tutorials on YouTube? Andrea: Okay, continue, continue. Mm-hmm. ⁓ I wouldn't say stupidly into, but I was sucked into them. Yes. Never did I ever do them on myself. No, but yes. Olivia: Okay, so I was thinking about this. This just just follow me on this like this rabbit trail is real loop de looped here. So I was putting on makeup the other day. I don't wear makeup a ton. I was putting on makeup the other day and I used to have this patch of my skin that like would not take pigment. It was like really bizarre and it was like this patch like right here. This is years ago and I just like would not take pigment like it would like there was just be kind of this like weird little like. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Okay. Mm. Okay. Olivia: just patch of skin that just like wouldn't do anything. It was so bizarre. And recently when I was doing my makeup, I realized that I don't have that patch there anymore. I was like, ⁓ that's exciting. I realized that now I have that patch on the other side, pretty much in the exact same. know it sounds weird, but like. ⁓ Andrea: Yeah. Okay. Hold up, what? It's like I'm gonna move across your face and go to the other side. ⁓ Olivia: That is actually the accurate voice for that patch. That would be the voice. And I used to think that was absolutely insane. But then I remembered that one of the YouTuber makeup people I used to watch had a similar patch in the same area that would not take pigment. And he would talk about it and he would show it. And it was so clear. I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm not insane because there's literally that part of my face that just will not take makeup on it. But what's even weirder is now it's on the other side of my face. Andrea: Interesting. Well, Olivia: So I bring that up to say I'm not that bizarre because somebody that was famous on YouTube in like 2017 used to have ends. Andrea: That's a vibe. Olivia: Yeah, all right, your turn. Andrea: It is, mean, that ⁓ such a trend. I think it's funny and that is so niche to like remember that, like that there was that one specific person. That's so funny. I have a friend, I have a friend that she used to have a YouTube channel where she would put on makeup and talk about like true crime. ⁓ love it. Olivia: I got super into it. Yeah, it's like two years, yeah. ⁓ and there's literally a YouTuber that does that now that's like super freaking famous. That's so funny. Andrea: Yeah, yeah, I always tell her I was like, you should have kept going with it, dude. You should have kept going. Those were so fun. feel like makeup tutorials are not, it's not the same anymore as it used to be. No, there was like, I got really into the drama side of the makeup tutorial world. Olivia: I know. Yeah. What a time. It's yeah, it's not. Yeah, it really isn't. ⁓ totally like how all the influencers would like have videos together and then like cancel each other and like come up with their own brands and then the brands would like have terrible launches or they'd be problems with the pro- I mean like- Andrea: Yep. Yep. They'd be beefing around something so stupid as like this color of hollow, whatever is like mine and not yours. Olivia: Yeah, like, oh, like you took a product line, like in my, it's like, yeah, looking back at that time, I'm like, what wildness, but I got like super into it. It was, was funny. Yeah. Andrea: Right. Yeah. Yeah. When there's a, it's almost like its own form of ASMR in a way where it's like putting on makeup, putting on makeup is soothing. I don't know. Okay. Olivia: No. No. No, I'm one of the rare people that just hates ASMR. Andrea: ⁓ can't handle it either. It's too much. It makes my brain itch. Olivia: Yeah, no. Andrea: Like, legitimately I want to scratch inside my nose to my brain. Olivia: it It makes my tongue hurt. Andrea: ⁓ that's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely find myself clenching my jaw and like. Olivia: Yeah, I'm like, ⁓ I feel my teeth on my tongue. I don't like that. Andrea: Yeah, oh, oh Sorry for all of our listeners who do like ASMR, but this is just not The only the only type of like noise that I can handle that's kind of ASMR II is the sound of rain I love the sound of rain, but I think that the No, cuz it's is it might be different Olivia: To me that's not ASMR. It's like background noise. Andrea: Yeah, it's background noise, it's naturally occurring, it's not like somebody biting into a pickle, like, over and over again, like... Olivia: My stomach literally just flipped. I'm sick. God. ⁓ Andrea: a thing. It's a thing. It's a thing. ⁓ Olivia: i know it's a thing but we don't need to talk about it i know it's a thing ⁓ my gosh, gross. Andrea: Whis- whispering? Heebie-jeebies. Why are you whispering into a microphone? Heebie-jeebies. Olivia: You know, whispering immediate, like, semantically, like in my body, immediately, if somebody's whispering to me, even if they're like not close, if I'm listening to something, I immediately feel like somebody's breathing down my neck and I'm like, know, you know what happens? It's always like when you're somebody breathes down your neck and they like try to not have a neck anymore. Yeah, that's how that feels. Andrea: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. me and my friends were just in Austin last week, we tried to make like a funny video in the library where we would like go find books and like read a weird page out of them. And we were like using my little microphones and trying to whisper into them. And we really struggled to whisper. don't ⁓ And this been on my mind. I was literally just gonna say that. was like, cause all three of us are neurodivergent. Olivia: Is that an ADHD thing? Is... yeah. Yeah! Andrea: and it was so difficult and it wasn't just because the books were funny, it was genuinely because it was so hard to fucking whisper. was like, don't, I can be a loud person, but I don't identify as like a loud person. I think I'm more like boisterous sometimes, but like, whispering is so hard. ⁓ Olivia: Yeah, I was thinking, I mean... I think it is hard for me to whisper. Also automatically when I think about ADHD and being loud, I think about my best friend Andrew, shout out to him. And literally his volumes are like really loud and loud. Those are his two volumes. he is like under inside voice. Andrea: Ha ha! Olivia: is not him. Like he there's he does not have inside voice. Like I love him dearly. He knows this. He knows this about himself, but like cannot whisper. Can't even like can't even get close to a whisper. Like can't even do like inside of an inside voice. It's like it's always loud. It's so funny. And I'm like, do you not are you not registering the same thing that like I'm British? Like what? It's it's really, really funny. ⁓ Andrea: That's so funny. Yeah. Yeah. I would love to see him try to whisper and see if there was like the physical difficulty of that. Because like when my friend Jamie was trying to do it, he was just like, ⁓ like there was like physical difficulty to do it. And I was like, what's ⁓ and Olivia: That's so funny. Andrea: If we relaxed, we could like kind of do it, but it was like, it was just not coming naturally. It was so hard. So we were just like, how do we speak quietly? And like, it just sounds so cracky and like weird. And it was just not, it's so funny. Olivia: It reminds me of those videos. Have you seen these where you'd like taken a big breath and you let it like let your breath out completely and then you try to scream? Have you seen those? That's what it reminds me of. ⁓ the way you're describing it. ⁓ Andrea: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ totally. so funny you bring that up, because that's of similar to the other thing that's been stuck on my mind all week. My friend Jamie sent me this video earlier this week of somebody that said, if you swallow three times in a row, you can't swallow a fourth time. Yeah. And like, I tried it and can't swallow a fourth time. Like, it's so weird. And it's like one of those things, it's kind of like that breathe out and like try to scream thing. It's like your body stops you from doing that. Olivia: Interesting. Andrea: Yeah, so it's like three like back-to-back swallows. It doesn't really let you do a fourth one. But I guess some people can and some people can't. I don't know. Because our friend Steph could do it and we couldn't. But it's like air swallowing, not water swallowing. Olivia: ⁓ okay. Well then, yeah, probably I couldn't. I don't even need to try that. I thought it was literally like a liquid. I'm like, how could you not? Andrea: Yeah, so it's like. See ya. No, no, Yeah, that you can do because like there you have to you have to get the liquid down or else you would choke on it, but you can't do it with air. And it just like, I'm like, why? Why can't you do it with air? Why not? Why is it stopping you? Olivia: Why is my body so weak? Andrea: Why, you weakling! Olivia: ⁓ that's weird. I'm have to like try that. That's bizarre. would have... Also like how does anyone anyways? Andrea: Yeah. Yeah. No, literally, how do people think about those things? Like, how does that come up? Just like, how do know that if you breathe out, you can't scream afterwards? Who that? Who's asking you to do that? Olivia: And they're a divergent person, hands down, somebody that was bored out of their mind. I can kind of see how it started. I just don't understand how that person was like, oh, I wonder if anyone else can't do this. And then it just spread. It's more the spreading that I'm confused about, not like the bored ADHD person that tried to do that physical thing that they can't. Andrea: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean like when I discover something I like to tell people even if it's not right or not a new discovery I'm like I just have to tell people but I do tend to do that I do tend to tell people tell my friends everything all the time so Constantly. I'm like trying to get better at it, but... Olivia: Yeah. Better at what? Telling more things or telling less things? ⁓ Andrea: No, telling less things. I mean, to be fair to myself, I am home alone a lot. am not some, ⁓ I don't handle loneliness very well. Like I like having people to talk to, even if it's just texting. And so sometimes I do text people just like, they're random as shit, where I'm just like, you don't need to know this, but I just took a really good poop. ⁓ need to know this, but I'm gonna tell you anyway. And... I don't know, I'm trying to get better at not doing that and just like letting people live their lives and they don't have to know about everything that's going on with me when I'm by myself, but it's very difficult. Olivia: That's so funny. don't know if you can, you might not be able to relate to this at all, ⁓ it came up ⁓ the weekend and it made me laugh. Generally, feel like I overshare, like I, ⁓ or very easy for me to overshare, just like say the thing or talk about whatever. But I was talking with my brother over the weekend and this is like a brother that I'm just like absolutely best friends with. He knows me super, super well. I know him. Andrea: Yeah, same. Olivia: I him pretty well, but he knows me like scarily well sometimes. I'm like, step off. step off my brain. he asked me like a question about something that happened. he's a, if you don't like mine talking about it. And I was like, ⁓ cause yeah, like I normally, I normally like really keep to myself. And I meant that as a joke. He was like, yeah, you do. I was like, wait, what? Like, you think I actually like keep things to myself? ⁓ I'm mysterious. Andrea: Yeah. Mm, yeah. Olivia: I felt amazing. But then I was like thinking about it. I'm like, there's like this level to which I completely overshare. I would just like tell anyone like I literally tell like a dog, a stranger, it doesn't matter. Just like it's there. And then there's like this this little circle that like nobody, nobody is in except me. And it's just like funny parallel of like, I'm an open book, except this tiny little like part over here where I don't tell anyone. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yep. Olivia: that's just me processing. It's not even like I want to keep that to myself. I'm like keeping secrets. It's just like my brain has to process this thing. And so it's not in the outside circle yet. Andrea: Yep. Right. No, I think that makes sense. mean, that's a similar process to me. I think I like think about things a lot and then I'm like, okay, I'm ready to tell people and then I will just tell everyone. It's like, I don't care. Olivia: Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad you can relate to that because I'm definitely the same way where like, there things I have to kind of mull over for a while before I'm going to really talk about it. And it's not because I want to do it that way or really trying to do that even on purpose most of the time. It's just how my brain works. I don't know. Andrea: you Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right, yeah. Sometimes I think about this and I'm like, am I not good at keeping things to myself because I'm a therapist and I have to keep everyone else's shit to myself? Or is it just because I'm ADHD and I can't keep shit to myself? But I'm so good at not talking about my client's shit. Sometimes I'm like, ⁓ I wish I could tell people about this or whatever. But I have a lot of stories and... things that clients have told me that I will never say and can never say ever ever. Like- Olivia: Yeah. Yeah. Andrea: So it's really interesting that I'm out here just being like, the world knows my business about everything. Except I am really good at keeping all those things close to me. Olivia: Yeah. And I think maybe that's like the parallel, which is I feel the same way. I can be really good at keeping things to myself and like secrets, I think maybe that's the trade-off of like, if there are things that you have to hold for yourself, that everything else ends up being fair game. You know? ⁓ which leads me to a question I was curious to ask you. I don't think we've ever really talked about it in this way. do ever wish that you didn't have ADHD? ⁓ Andrea: That's fair. That makes sense. Yeah. Yes, but I think it comes out when I'm frustrated. Like ⁓ I'm overstimulated or frustrated with myself because like I can't do something or like. Olivia: Mmm. Andrea: on really, I call them just bad ADHD days where like I forget my keys or I forget like multiple things at the grocery store or like I struggle to get enough energy to do the dishes or I'm too overstimulated by the water in the sink. Like there's days where like those things are just so overwhelming where I'm like, I wish I just didn't fucking have this. Like why am I this way? Like I wish that never happened. at the same time, then the next day I'll just be like, you know what? No. Olivia: in the Andrea: Like I love that I am ADHD. I love that I have this crazy, unique, fun brain. Like, so I always come around to it and be like, no, that was a dumb thought. But yeah, when I'm frustrated with myself all the time. Olivia: Hmm. Interesting. think ⁓ have a little bit of a similar experience as you, but I more get frustrated with like the symptom. I don't think I really get frustrated that I have ADHD. I'm more I'm like, ⁓ man, I wish I didn't ⁓ overwhelmed by like this thing. ⁓ Or I wish I like ⁓ as... Andrea: Yeah, what about you? Mm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Olivia: maybe like irritable or like I wish it was easier for me to relax, whatever like that means. ⁓ But I never, don't think I've really felt like, man, like I wish I like equating it to ADHD more generally. Like I wish I didn't have ADHD. I'm more I'm like, ⁓ man, wish, like I wish it was different. Like this experience was different. But then also it's like, I think the thing that comes up the most for me is just like my overwhelm is that I get overwhelmed. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Olivia: usually around parenting the most typically. But when I think about it, it's like, well, realistically, like or neurodivergent parents, they get overwhelmed all the time. ⁓ are overwhelming, ⁓ know, like that's just like. Andrea: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Olivia: The thing that I want to have be better, like maybe it could be better in some ways, but ultimately, like, I don't think there's a way to prevent that experience from ever happening. So it's like, think that's kind of an unrealistic goal or expectation. ⁓ yeah, I don't know. I was just kind of curious. Like we talking a little bit in one of our last episodes around like self care and guilt. ⁓ And I just kind of curious of like, Andrea: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Olivia: Do you ever feel bad that you have it or like wish you didn't? Andrea: Yeah, I mean, I definitely think there's blips of that here and there. But then it always comes back around and gets reframed because like, it's given me so many cool skills. You know, like I think the frustration is definitely overwhelmed and like, I'm not great with remembering to do shit or like organizational skills, like, or keeping my photography business on track sometimes is rough, but like I do it and it's not that bad and people are forgiving, you know, ⁓ like. ⁓ Olivia: Right. Right. Andrea: I don't think overall I wish I didn't have it. I think there's just like blips here and there. like allows me to have a fucking Red Bull and like be fine and not have the jitters. you know, allows me to be able to read a book in a day or read a book in a month. it's, it gives me like. Olivia: in. Andrea: some cool skills. Like I hate when people say like ADHD or autism has superpowers. Like it's not, it's not superpowers that's icky to me, but it is like, I just, I like have cool abilities. Like I can do stuff that some people can't do and, but then they can do stuff that I can't do because we're all differently abled. And I like that a lot. Olivia: Yeah, mean, to diagnosis so late in life, it's wishing you didn't have it. It's like, well, I didn't even know about it for like, I mean, at this point, like I didn't know about it for 30 years of my life. ⁓ like the of like wishing you didn't have it. It's like, well, you barely even, you've barely even known that it's existed in your life. You good? Andrea: Mm-hmm. Right. Mm-mm. One of my three drinks over here is my liquid IV and I'm chasing the straw with my mouth. Olivia: I was like, it feel the straw reminded me? Okay. So if you were like going into a session and you had like a pop can, let's say it's like a pop, it's not like a Red Bull. So maybe like ⁓ little less stigma than an energy drink. ⁓ you keep it in the can or would you put it in ⁓ glass and would the glass have a straw or not? If you were going into a session specifically. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Yeah. know if I've ever thought about it that intently. Olivia: do it now though. Andrea: Well, the thing is, like, I've done all of them. I've done all of those options for a session. Like I've had, I've just used a can. I have just put it in a glass. then I have put it in a glass with a straw. I'm currently on a fixation. Rabbit this a little bit. I'm currently on a fixation of not using straws too much because I don't wanna. ⁓ give myself brown wrinkles, because I saw a picture of myself where I like, like jowls. the like lady who last gave me a facial, she was like, stop drinking straws if you want those to go away. And I was like, fuck you. ⁓ So I'm kind of on this like, trying not to use straws as much kick I don't want wrinkles on my face. Olivia: You just need a vibrating plate. Andrea: Nice callback. ⁓ guess just give me a vibrating plate Olivia: so I've also done all three going into session, but something about having a straw feels ⁓ to me in the session. feels like... Andrea: Okay. Yeah. Olivia: It feels unprofessional. Like that's the best word I can use for the experience. But it feels like it feels weird. I don't know. It feels like we're in like a restaurant or something or like catching up at coffee or you know what I mean? Like it just it doesn't give a it's not even just casual. It's like a friendly vibe and like your therapist isn't your friend. And so normally I don't do like straws. Andrea: Mmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right. That makes sense, I could see that. Olivia: But I have, I don't know, I've just thought about this. Because every once in like I want ⁓ a pop or I want something. And then I'm like immediately like, well, do I want it in this receptacle or this receptacle with this attachment? Andrea: Mm-hmm. There's been times like what did I had? ⁓ had a, have you ever had one of the Izzy drinks? Like, do you know those? So the Izzy cans, if you don't see, excuse me. If you don't see the Izzy logo, it looks like it could be like a wine can. Olivia: Mm-mm. Yeah, yeah. Andrea: And I was drinking one out of a can in a session one time and halfway through I had this intrusive thought of like, what if my client thinks I'm drinking wine right now? Olivia: I do have that sometimes, like I, what did I, I had it like sparkling water. And sometimes the sparkling water cans can kind of like look like hard seltzer. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Yeah, totally. Olivia: And I'm in like, maybe I shouldn't have this in a can. But then it feels weird to put sparkling water in a glass. I don't know that feels, that seems weird to me. Of like, it's just clear, a clear liquid in a glass of like, I don't know, that seems kind of freaky to me. Andrea: Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like it loses its bite a little bit, like specifically with sparkling water when you put it in a glass. Yeah, yeah. But like, like my Red Bull was fine in a glass today. I don't know. was like, no. Olivia: Yeah, carbonation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not the same because, like, Red Bull isn't carbonated. Andrea: It's not. Yes it is. yeah. Olivia: Wait, is it? Andrea: pretty sure Red Bull is carbonated. Olivia: I'm like trying to envision opening the can and if there's like a pop. Andrea: It's like... yeah? I think it's just not as carbonated as like a ⁓ Olivia: Yeah, okay, yeah, it is carbonated, but yeah, I don't think it's carbonated. Well, I just slipped into a brain black hole and I'm back. Welcome to the other side. Yeah, I think about this. then, I've been in talking a guilty pleasure of having diapepsi because I'm a Pepsi person. Andrea: You Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Olivia: But not right here with Pepsi Diet Pepsi, which also like that feels weird too, to say. But I'm like, is the client judging me for having Diet Pepsi? Because there's like so many weird like isms around like Coke, Diet Coke, Pepsi, Diet Pepsi, like that whole thing. But again, like putting it in a glass feels kind of like bizarre, but then a straw feels worse. It's so weird, like the things that you like think about. yeah, yeah. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Ha Right. Right. ⁓ huh. Yeah. And I think it's like, like I don't think I would think about these things if I worked in person. Like I feel more self-conscious about it, like working telehealth for some reason. Olivia: Really? I'm trying to think. How would I feel in person? Well, if I was in person, I wouldn't have access to those things. Generally. Andrea: Yeah. Really? Olivia: So yeah, I would have like my morning coffee and like my water bottle. Andrea: That's true. My, not the last job, the job I worked out before, we had like a mini fridge that we would keep like sparkling waters and stuff in, in our staff room. So we had access to that stuff all day. and there was a- Olivia: Well, that's the thing. Yeah, like if you're working in the office, like you could bring in your own. But I'm just thinking about myself, like that's a lot of forward thinking. don't think I I don't think I would like plan to have a little like special drink in the afternoon. You know what I mean? Like, I just don't think I would. Andrea: Right. I see what you're saying, yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Olivia: Clue in. Andrea: And it's kind of the joy of like working from home is that we can just be like, ooh, I have sparkly waters in the fridge. Let me go grab one for this session. Olivia: Yeah, also something about carbonation just hits that dopamine different. Like it's like you always need ⁓ a drink. Like I like water and I like drink a decent amount of water. Generally you don't, but I do. there is something about having like something that's not water that like feels fun like all day, every day. Andrea: Yes Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely a dopamine hit for me. I mean, and I also, you know this about me. I don't like water. I think water has no taste. I think it tastes, well, think it tastes disgusting. It's boring. I don't wanna have to drink it. I would rather have somebody like come to my house and give me an IV for fluids than to drink water all day. Like, I literally have gotten a couple of hydration IVs done because like, struggle to stay hydrated. I try to have like a liquid IV or electrolytes every day because it is so bad that I'm, but like, I get, my tummy if I drink too much water. I have to pee all the time if I drink too much water. I have to pee like three times throughout the night if I drink water, like. Olivia: Yeah, because your body doesn't know what to do with it because you normally don't have it. like, be gone, Satan. Andrea: Yeah I do notice though, this is so funny, I do have a water bottle with a straw and it's been driving me crazy, but if I sit on the couch with my water bottle and like just hold it like this, I will just suck on it for hours. Olivia: wrinkles. Andrea: I know! I'm like, I don't want the face wrinkles! Olivia: You see you one of the like, I have the one of the Ouala water bottles where like it does have a straw, but it's like, ⁓ I don't even know how to describe it. Andrea: It's more like a mouth hole. Olivia: Yeah, it's a water bottle with a glory hole. Andrea: haven't told you I went to a glory hole in Austin. It was a coffee glory hole. Olivia: I am currently having problems processing what you're telling me. where just put a cup of coffee out on a ledge and there's just a hand that comes out. Andrea: It was a c- Yeah, you like order your coffee on their little QR code and then it comes out of a hole in a wall. Olivia: That's one of the very few versions of a glory hole I could get behind. Andrea: I'm like I don't have a good picture of it. Oh, it's gonna be too hard. I didn't take a picture. took a video. Oh, here we go Pause I don't know if you can see this in the heart is the hole Olivia: Wow, that's an hardcore one, man, like concrete, damn. Andrea: Yeah, and it was called a whole coffee. ⁓ they stuck it out the hole, they would wear different types of hats. Olivia: attention to detail unmatched. ⁓ love this. ⁓ is it not here in Washington? This is a place to have this kind of thing. Andrea: Yeah, so like, so I don't know. Stephanie's hand was like a crab claw or like a lobster claw thing. And then Jamie's was like a furry, like monster claw. The person before us had this like hot pink with like nails on it ⁓ And then mine was an oven mitt. Olivia: Thank you. ⁓ That is amazing. The name alone is good, Like, glorious. We love ⁓ ⁓ But the different hands thing, absolutely hilarious. Because I already know without having to ask you, ⁓ probably didn't necessarily see this, ⁓ they have to have one where they put those little hands on all of their fingers. And like, yeah. Yeah. Andrea: It was so good. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ they have to. They have to. I would love that. That's what they should have given me. Cause I have one right here. Olivia: Yes! Yes, those! Also, like throwback to an earlier part of the conversation of do you remember when there was the YouTube makeup trend where Andrea: They're my favorites. Cut to YouTube. Olivia: Where the YouTube makeup trend where like they would have to do their makeup with those many hands. What a thoroughbite. How many times have we come full circle in this rabbit trail? This is amazing. We're on a roll. Repeat. How many do you have? Andrea: Yes! Those are so funny. I don't know, we're doing a good job, because I got more of them. So for my bachelorette party, we got a whole pack and they're biracial. So have white ones and ⁓ brown ones. And a whole pack of them. There's even one that has a middle finger. And we all wore them around, like one day, around to the bars. And we have videos of us grabbing our drinks with the little, it's so funny. So I have them laying around the house. They're around somewhere. I probably have another one in my desk somewhere. Olivia: That's hilarious. that's good. I don't have any fun things in my office like that. I wish. ⁓ Andrea: Ugh. Gotta step it up, man. Olivia: I know, it's too business in here. goodness this is amazing Andrea: ⁓ man, what an episode. Olivia: What an episode. Yeah, we should definitely cut ourselves off as we usually have to in these rabbit trails. Thanks for guests anymore. Okay. Wow. Well, thanks for coming along journey. You all. ⁓ it a journey, ⁓ trek, a battle for life? I don't even know. Like the rabbit trails were. Yeah, it was it was extensive today for sure. Andrea: I know, right? Yeah. roller coaster. How about a vibrating plate? That's what it was. Olivia: I feel like it was more intense than that. But if you wanna... Andrea: a vibrating plate while listening to ASMR. Olivia: on a washer. Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: Yeah, that fits absolutely. On that lovely note, thank you everyone for tuning in, listening, vibrating right along with us. We appreciate all of you. ⁓ my goodness. Andrea: Wuff. Yes. Thank you so much for another fun episode. Olivia: muah muah. Don't forget to like, comment, subscribe, and we will catch you all in our next episode. Bye y'all. Andrea: Bye!