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- 0:00Break Fix's History of Motorsports Series is brought to you in part
- 0:04by the International Motor Racing Research Center, as well as the
- 0:07Society of Automotive Historians, the Watkins Glen Area Chamber of
- 0:11Commerce, and the Argo Singer family
- 0:16Charlotte's Glory.
- 0:17The NASCAR Hall of Fame in the Queen City by Hannah Thompson.
- 0:21Hannah Thompson is a cultural historian of the Carolina Piedmont
- 0:24and is new in the museum field.
- 0:26With her current position with the Gaston County Museum of Art and History, Ms.
- 0:31Thompson also helps restore Coca-Cola ghost signs throughout the southeast.
- 0:35In her spare time, she examines the history of the NASCAR Hall of
- 0:38Fame from its inception in 2001.
- 0:40Through the Global Pandemic, bringing into consideration why Charlotte was selected
- 0:44as the seat for the Hall of Fame and how the hall has affected NASCAR and its fans.
- 0:49Ms. Thompson suggests that Charlotte is often overlooked in Motorsport
- 0:53history despite its lasting impact on the auto racing world.
- 0:58Charlotte's Glory, the NASCAR Hall of Fame in the Queen City.
- 1:03And here is Hannah Thompson joining us from South Carolina.
- 1:07Well, first I'd like to start by saying thank you to everyone in
- 1:11Watkins Glen, who made it possible for this symposium and this opportunity
- 1:15to present to you from Zoom.
- 1:17So it was race day in 1960.
- 1:21The newly built Charlotte Motor Speedway was beginning to spring to life.
- 1:25Andrew Andy Thompson made his way to the pits with his paint cart in tow.
- 1:29He was there to paint the driver's names and sponsorships onto their stock
- 1:33cars as a signed painter for Coca-Cola.
- 1:35Consolidated in Charlotte, North Carolina by trade.
- 1:38Thompson entered the automobile racing circuit as both an artist and a race fan.
- 1:43As his reputation grew at the track, so did the number of
- 1:46cars he lettered on race day.
- 1:48Bobby Isaac Buck and Buddy Baker, fireball Roberts and Wendell Scott were all
- 1:52names intimately familiar to Thompson as his personal photos and accounts.
- 1:56Document Thompson's artistry was only one of many ties NASCAR had to the city of
- 2:02Charlotte, also known as the Queen City.
- 2:04And his legacy of painting race cars continues to live on through those cars.
- 2:08On display in the Glory Road Exhibit at the Nucar Hall of
- 2:11Fame located in the Queen City.
- 2:13Andy Thompson, my grandfather was one of the thousands of people in the Charlotte
- 2:18area who helped establish the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing
- 2:22nascar, and whose lives anchored the sport in the city that would become home
- 2:26to its Hall of Fame a half century later.
- 2:29Despite its role in the development of Charlotte and in the lives of
- 2:32individuals like Thomson, NASCAR has attracted surprisingly limited
- 2:36attention from academic historian.
- 2:39Most of the literature written about the sport focuses on its origins
- 2:42for bootlegging illegal production, distribution, and sale of alcohol
- 2:46during the prohibition era or early organized racing efforts.
- 2:50In contrast, there is little scholarship that examines the relationship between
- 2:54Charlotte and NASCAR specifically with primarily local historians such
- 2:58as Tom Chet or Heather A. Smith, even briefly investigating the relationship.
- 3:03This lack of scholarship and attention to NASCAR within Charlotte is due,
- 3:06at least in part, to the simple fact that his historians, other than
- 3:09sports historians such as Dan Pearson, Markel, often marginalized sports
- 3:13history as a pop culture pastime rather than a rigorous academic discipline.
- 3:19I in turn seek to play Charlotte as a key player in Motorsports
- 3:22and especially NASCAR history throughout the last half century.
- 3:26An endeavor to answer why it took so long for a NASCAR hall of fame to be built.
- 3:31Charlotte's geography was a significant factor in the Queen City becoming a major
- 3:35racing hub, both through its positioning in the United States and through the
- 3:38abundant red Clay in the Piedmont area.
- 3:42This geography factor in combination with Charlotte's growing economic
- 3:45and cultural standing throughout the second half of the 20th century led
- 3:49to nascar adopting Charlotte as an unofficial racing hub by 1965, as well
- 3:54as NASCAR executives eventually choosing Charlotte to house the NASCAR Hall
- 3:58of Fame in the early two thousands.
- 3:59Solidifying the role of Charlotte in racing and NASCAR history.
- 4:03The NASCAR Hall of Fame position alone testifies to Charlotte's impact on the
- 4:07racing industry and the racing industry's effect on Charlotte as the queen city
- 4:12itself headed by Mayor Pat McCrory at the time was the group lobbying of
- 4:16hardest for the hall seat in Charlotte.
- 4:19The hall in Charlotte is the only hall of fame completely devoted to and
- 4:22licensed by nascar, other halls of fame to vote themselves to motorsports in
- 4:27general, though they may discuss nascar.
- 4:29Additionally, the NASCAR Hall of Fame is the only Hall of
- 4:32Fame located in Charlotte.
- 4:34Further speaking to the importance of the motor sports industry to the queen city.
- 4:38So Charlotte and the state of North Carolina have been dubbed NASCAR Valley
- 4:41by many Motorsports fans, journalists, and historians alike with over 90% of NASCAR
- 4:46teams as well as pable manufacturers such as Holman Moody, located within
- 4:50the greater Charlotte metropolitan area.
- 4:52It's safe to say that Charlotte is the beating card of
- 4:55NASCAR now as a crash course.
- 4:57For those who are unfamiliar with why Charlotte in particular
- 5:01houses the majority of race teens.
- 5:03It mostly comes back to geography.
- 5:05When tracks were still dirt and races were just beginning to be
- 5:08sanctioned by one governing body, it was necessary to have red clay.
- 5:12This particular clay was perfect for motorsports as it compacts down
- 5:16into a hard lick surface that didn't allow vehicles to sink, like the
- 5:20sandy white clay to the east, or the black spongy clay to the west.
- 5:23It also allowed for drivers to take turns at faster speed.
- 5:27Red Clay can only be found in a small portion of the country, specifically
- 5:31in the Piedmont that runs through some of the eastern states, primarily
- 5:34Georgia, the Carolinas, and Virginia.
- 5:37Once NASCAR was found in 1947, it was only natural for teams and parts
- 5:41manufacturers to congregate in one city.
- 5:44Daytona Beach, where NASCAR's executive offices are located was too small and
- 5:48not central enough for teams to travel around the country easily for race.
- 5:53Auto racing was already a distinctly southern sport due to the abundant
- 5:56red clay, and it was therefore not likely for NASCAR Valley to
- 5:59settle outside of the Piedmont.
- 6:01Charlotte is directly in the center of the Eastern seaboard equidistant between
- 6:05New York City and Miami and houses 53% of the nation's population within 650 miles.
- 6:11By the 1980s, Charlotte Douglas International Airport had grown into
- 6:15a large bustling hub, coupled with the numerous major interstates and
- 6:19highways through and around the queen.
- 6:21City teens had no issues traveling for races, and it was easy to have parts
- 6:25shipped if the manufacturer wasn't already located in the metropolitan area.
- 6:29There's one fourth tiny detail that caused Charlotte to unofficially
- 6:33become the heart of nascar.
- 6:35Atlanta, which was the original unofficial center of nascar, made NASCAR leadership
- 6:40drivers and fans angry when Atlanta leadership decided to censor who could
- 6:45race at the city and raceway in the late 1940s in retaliation, nascar packed up and
- 6:50made its way to Charlotte, which had fewer qualms about having a stereotypically
- 6:55lower working class population.
- 6:56Join it.
- 6:57Already a larger mill centered city.
- 7:00Charlotte did not become a banking center, the second largest in the
- 7:03country, and majority middle and upper class until the 1980s after NASCAR
- 7:07Valley had already been well established.
- 7:10NASCAR is one of the largest industries in North Carolina.
- 7:13Despite not being a highly promoted sport by the general public in Charlotte, the
- 7:17greater Charlotte region and Carolinas in general have hosted some of the largest
- 7:21races on the NASCAR strictly stock series calendar, and have produced some of the
- 7:25largest sponsors and players in the sport.
- 7:28Sponsors like Firestone Tire Rubber Company and STPA Motor
- 7:32Oil Company found a niche area to test and promote their products.
- 7:36NASCAR was able to create hundreds of jobs through the creation of more and more
- 7:39teams, while being able to put hundreds of thousands of dollars of revenue into
- 7:43local economies, each race weakened.
- 7:46Many former NASCAR pros like Rick Hendrick also eventually make
- 7:50their way to owning car dealerships and the Charlotte area furthering
- 7:53the economic impact to the area.
- 7:55However, there are three main areas that NASCAR has an economic impact on.
- 8:00Charlotte.
- 8:01Charlotte Motor Speedway, motor sport related industries in
- 8:04the Charlotte region, and of course the NASCAR Hall of Fame.
- 8:07On May 11th, 2010, the NASCAR Hall of Fame opened its doors to the public
- 8:11for the first time seated almost at the very heart of Charlotte, North Carolina.
- 8:15The Hall of Fame remains committed to presenting the history of both
- 8:18competitive stock car and stock truck auto racing, designed by IMK
- 8:23Architect of the Glass Pyramid in front of the L and France in the Rock
- 8:26and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland.
- 8:28The hall is a beautiful, modern building that contrasts with the
- 8:31rest of the queen city skyline of 1980s era high-rise buildings.
- 8:36In case you haven't had the opportunity to visit the hall yet, there are two central
- 8:40exhibits, glory Road and the Hall of Honor with the rest of the hall focusing on the
- 8:44steam aspects of NASCAR with interactives built in throughout to test your knowledge
- 8:48based on the surrounding exhibits and even an opportunity to place your
- 8:52driving skills against other visitors.
- 8:54So why is this matter?
- 8:55Why study the NASCAR Hall of Fame in particular when there are a multitude
- 8:59of motor sports halls of fame?
- 9:01The hall is unique in that it is the only one devoted solely to the
- 9:04commemoration and promotion of NASCAR and not motor sports in general.
- 9:08It's also an interesting case.
- 9:10It is not often that we can study a still young institution like the Hall.
- 9:14The last decade has seen a large number of changes for NASCAR and
- 9:17the Hall of Fame, particularly to the induction process in the added
- 9:21emphasis on STEAM education, making it an ideal time to examine the hall and
- 9:26its progress since inception in 2001.
- 9:29When the NASCAR Hall of Fame was first proposed in the early two thousands,
- 9:32there was quite a bit of speculation surrounding where it would be placed.
- 9:36The final three considers were Charlotte, Atlanta, and Daytona Beach.
- 9:39The Kansas City and Richmond were also considered in the early days
- 9:43compared to Atlanta and Daytona.
- 9:44Charlotte may not seem like the most logical place but the Hall of Fame.
- 9:48However, as I stated earlier, Charlotte had already been dubbed
- 9:52NASCAR Valley decades prior to this announcement due to the high volume of
- 9:56motorsports activity within the area.
- 9:58The proximity of a large international airport and major interstate
- 10:02roadways assisted in placing NASCAR within the Queen City back in the
- 10:061960s and earlier days of nascar.
- 10:08A 2006 New York Times article noted that Brian France, the chairman
- 10:12of NASCAR at the time, had stayed.
- 10:14Both Atlanta and Charlotte were ideal for the hall, but never mentioned
- 10:17Daytona Beach, most likely due to its limited fan traffic and being
- 10:21off the beaten path despite being the cradle of the NASCAR organization.
- 10:25And within driving distance of other Florida traction, therefore leaving
- 10:29Atlanta and Charlotte as the last two possible locations for the hall.
- 10:33However, noted Motorsports and NASCAR historian Dan Pierce claims that Atlanta
- 10:37lost the bid for the hall in 1945 before a hall of fame was even imagined.
- 10:43The event Pierce references is when Atlanta city officials
- 10:46and religious leaders cracked down on who would be allowed to
- 10:49drive in races at Lakewood Park.
- 10:51The city owned raceway following World War II when bootleggers were still prominent.
- 10:55Drivers, promoters, and mechanics.
- 10:57Additionally, the Atlanta Middle class, were trying to distance themselves from
- 11:01anything reminiscent of the southern reputation of being poverty stricken
- 11:05and majority working class population.
- 11:07Such stereotypes of NASCAR continued to play the sport, but this particular
- 11:11instance solidified the fact that Atlanta had, on some level, irreparably
- 11:16harmed its relationship with a NASCAR organization in the mid 19 hundreds.
- 11:21The attempted erasure of Atlanta's bootlegging history by city officials
- 11:24in the 1940s by means of banning former bootleggers from racing led
- 11:28to Atlanta's exclusion as the premier racing hub in the Southeast, as well
- 11:32as the seat for the hall of fame.
- 11:34Comparatively, the historic aspect of the positive relationship between
- 11:38Charlotte and nascar, the public funding guaranteed by city officials.
- 11:42NASCAR leadership was looking for, and the fact that over 90% of racing
- 11:46teams are also housed in and around the city, all ultimately resulted in
- 11:50NASCAR officials choosing Charlotte toward the location of the Hall of Fame.
- 11:54As the officials felt that these reasons spoke to the true history of nascar, which
- 11:58is a large factor of the Hall of Fame's purpose, one of the largest factors in
- 12:02choosing a final location for the hall was which city had the sustainability for
- 12:06the hall 15, 20, 35 years down the road.
- 12:10All three final contenders had the potential for that sustainability.
- 12:14Making them all viable options.
- 12:16However, Atlanta and Charlotte have a slightly higher ability to support the
- 12:20hall long term as they constantly see new construction and new attractions
- 12:24that draw visitors from all over.
- 12:26The majority of fans interviewed at the 2006 Daytona 500 even said they
- 12:30would prefer Charlotte of the three contenders to have the hall, mainly due
- 12:34to the number of race shops in the area.
- 12:36Luckily, for those particular fans and for Charlotte, the Queen City was chosen
- 12:40by NASCAR leadership later in 2006.
- 12:43The city of Charlotte owns the Hall and the Charlotte Regional Visitors
- 12:46Authority, not NASCAR runs it.
- 12:48While NASCAR does not receive any of the Hall's direct revenue, there
- 12:52were major benefits to the Queen City owning an operating hall.
- 12:55The Hall of Fame overall cost $189 million, which included the Hall
- 13:01Ballroom and the convention center office space and a parking deck.
- 13:04Charlotte guaranteed public funding to take care of the entire cost by
- 13:08raising the hotel occupancy tax by 2% private bank loans, and through the
- 13:12selling of state help land parcels.
- 13:14Though NASCAR did end up purchasing office space from the city and now run
- 13:18almost all of their media operations out of the Charlotte offices.
- 13:21NASCAR does, however, still receive the byproducts of increased fan
- 13:25activity within the city around races as there are at least two races in
- 13:28Charlotte every year, as well as getting younger demographics involved
- 13:32with auto race culture through school and extracurricular group field trips.
- 13:36NASCAR also intended for the Hall of Fame to assist in increasing
- 13:39NASCAR's fan base to what it was before Dale Earnhardt's death.
- 13:43Though it is still difficult to gauge pure van base versus visitors to the
- 13:47hall, which includes school field trips, non fan base groups, people using I 77
- 13:53en route to Florida, travelers coming through Charlotte Douglas International
- 13:57Airport, and visitors to the convention center in the same complex as the hall.
- 14:01Hall's mission statement notes that the hall aims to drive economic
- 14:05impact for the Charlotte region.
- 14:07Honor the heritage and history of NASCAR and cultivate loyalty for both the
- 14:11NASCAR Hall of Fame and NASCAR through delivering a multifaceted experience
- 14:15that is interactive, entertaining, educational, immersive, and engaging.
- 14:20While the statement is worded generally enough to address all
- 14:23audiences, it also aims specifically to create new fans through its
- 14:27third point to cultivate loyalty.
- 14:29NASCAR fan numbers have decreased for a number of reasons, including other more
- 14:34diverse ways of spending leisure time, growing costs of fuel, lodging, and
- 14:38accommodations, and an aging fan base.
- 14:41Additionally, the tragedy of Earnhardt's death in 2001 as well as other superstar
- 14:45drivers, retirements caused the fan base decline after its peak in 2005.
- 14:50The Hall of Fame attempts to supplement the fan base by appealing
- 14:53to those demographics typically not found within the sports fan base.
- 14:57The CRVA who run the hall were gracious enough to give me access
- 15:01to the fiscal reports since 2017.
- 15:04There was some data from 2015 included in the 2017 report.
- 15:09Despite CRVA claims that visitor numbers have grown over the years, the reports
- 15:13show that visitor numbers have continually been decreasing at a marginal rate.
- 15:18For reference, the NASCAR Hall of Fame had over 275,000 visitors during
- 15:23its first full year in operation, but the number of visitors coming
- 15:26in second only to the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, New York.
- 15:30In 2019, the last bull financial year on record for the hall,
- 15:34there were around 70,000 visitors.
- 15:36If my calculations are correct that the CRVA is not specific about visitor
- 15:40numbers past the first year or two of the hall's operation, as a point of
- 15:44reference, other sports hall of fames see anywhere from over double to quadruple
- 15:49that number of visitors in a year.
- 15:51However, the first 12 months after the NASCAR Hall of Fame reopened
- 15:55in September, 2020, saw over 90,000 visitors a roughly 35% increase over
- 16:0020 nineteens visitor numbers, and there is still room for that number to grow.
- 16:05There are almost 150,000 students in the Charlotte Mecklenburg School
- 16:09district alone, which is where Charlotte and the Hall of Fame are located.
- 16:13For fiscal year 2021, the Hall of Fame saw just under 11,000 students, not
- 16:18exclusively from the Charlotte Mecklenburg District, but this number continuously
- 16:22declining for the last several years.
- 16:25The pandemic and subsequent innovations museums had to create
- 16:28because of the pandemic, provide potential for the hall's educational
- 16:32outreach to grow exponentially.
- 16:34Educational outreach and bringing in families as new visitors because
- 16:38of these students is vital to the ongoing sustainability of the museum.
- 16:42Which was discussed in 2006 when choosing a final location for call.
- 16:46The overall decrease in visitorship and educational programs could be from a
- 16:50multitude of factors, such as lack of inclusivity and diversity in honorees,
- 16:54the slow change in certain exhibits such as Glory Road, which only changes
- 16:58every three years or other cheaper educational opportunities in the area.
- 17:03The number of visitors to the NASCAR Hall of Fame has dropped
- 17:06off since the inaugural year.
- 17:07Despite the Hall's staff increased awareness of Charlotte's largely
- 17:11middle class population with exhibits designed with diverse
- 17:14demographic engagement in mind.
- 17:16Because the middle class population is not the primary demographic
- 17:20drawn to NASCAR as a sport, and by extension it's other attractions like
- 17:23the hall spaces like the Hall are an instrumental way of growing both
- 17:27knowledge and the fan base of the sport.
- 17:29More traditional NASCAR forum like Charlotte Motor Speedway are still a
- 17:32large factor of the economic and cultural impacts in Motorsport on Charlotte.
- 17:37The Hall of Fame reaches demographics that would not feel quite at home
- 17:40at the Speedway due to stereotypes surrounding the sport as a white,
- 17:44southern and lower class sport.
- 17:46Continuing the original narrative of NASCAR as a working class sport
- 17:50as of 2004, when this graphic in front of you was printed.
- 17:55There were more than 400, almost 700 by 2012 motorsports related
- 17:59businesses in the Charlotte region.
- 18:0190% of NASCAR teams in the Charlotte region and 2,750 motorsports industry
- 18:06jobs in the Charlotte region, and then there were over 20,000 by 2012
- 18:11exemplifying exponential growth of the motorsports industry in the Queen city.
- 18:16The majority of these are located in Mooresville and Concord
- 18:20areas where teams are located.
- 18:22Likewise, the Motorsports industry and the state of North Carolina
- 18:25in 2003 had 12,292 jobs directly related to the motorsports industry.
- 18:31Created 24,406 new jobs in North Carolina and generated over $5 billion in revenue.
- 18:39A steady figure for at least the last 20 years.
- 18:42With salaries for those in the motor sports industry in the
- 18:45top 3.6% of highest earnings.
- 18:48As the exponential growth of job opportunities in the industry
- 18:51continues to rise, so does the concentration of Motorsport
- 18:55businesses within the Charlotte area.
- 18:57Despite this clipping before you being almost 20 years old, there
- 19:00is still a high concentration of better sports related businesses,
- 19:03including NASCAR specific businesses and teams in the same general areas.
- 19:08Some of the teams have moved since 2004, though others have moved
- 19:11into the Charlotte area since.
- 19:13Over the last five years, the economic impact of the hall was at a high with
- 19:17$72 million for the Charlotte area and $39.1 million in direct spending.
- 19:23As of 2019, the museum had a roughly $58.3 million economic impact on the
- 19:28city visitors traveling an average of 564 miles to get to the city.
- 19:33In addition, visitors averaged a three day overnight trip with approximately 37%
- 19:38of visitors coming to Charlotte with the primary intention of visiting the hall.
- 19:42These visitors also averaged an expenditure of $830 per party in the city.
- 19:47Both the direct and indirect economic impact of the HU and Motorsports
- 19:51have decreased in recent years.
- 19:53While there is not a singular reason for this pandemic hit every industry,
- 19:57including sports and especially manufacturing card, the next few
- 20:00years we'll hopefully see a rise in the economic impact in the Charlotte
- 20:03area, as well as increased visitors and educational outreach, and we
- 20:07can get the numbers back up to what they were at the height in 2018.
- 20:11The impact of the motorsports industry is still astounding and makes one question
- 20:15why Native shore audience do not LA NASCAR as much as other sports like the Panthers
- 20:21football team or the Hornets basketball team, while city leadership and media do.
- 20:25Part of the answer is the negative connotations in stereotypes surrounding
- 20:29auto racing and its origins while another is that there are simply
- 20:32other and potentially more engaging ways to utilize leisure time than
- 20:36there were when NASCAR started.
- 20:38The Hall of Fame seeks to remedy these issues by engaging demographics other than
- 20:42those typically associated with nascar.
- 20:45By reworking the traditional auto racing and NASCAR narratives,
- 20:48they're focusing on steam aspects of the sport rather than making the
- 20:51hall all about NASCAR's history.
- 20:53The continuing issue, however, is convincing enough non-fans to visit
- 20:58the hall and promote NASCAR as just as fun and engaging as other
- 21:02sports like football or baseball.
- 21:04Back to our question of why did it take NASCAR so long to
- 21:07create a Hall of Fame for itself?
- 21:09Unfortunately, there's not one perfect answer that I have been able to find.
- 21:12NASCAR has been represented heavily in other halls of fame, such as
- 21:16the International Motorsport Hall of Fame in Talladega, and a vast
- 21:19majority of teen shops have their own mini museums attached that fans are
- 21:23welcome to visit throughout the year.
- 21:25Also possible that fans were so accustomed to having a dominant oral tradition in
- 21:29honoring their racing heroes and saw no real need for a specific place to LA them.
- 21:33The Hall of Fame, however, has provided a welcoming space.
- 21:37For fans and non-fans alike to learn about the steam aspects of NASCAR
- 21:41and motorsports in a more general sense, it's also provided a space
- 21:44for teams to hold press conferences, unveilings and other sores.
- 21:48With the whole hosting over 300 events every year.
- 21:52Has the hall lived up to its 10 year expectations?
- 21:55Yes and no.
- 21:56It's difficult to gauge success though when two years of its very short history
- 22:00have been odd because of a global pandemic the next 10 years and how the
- 22:04hall continues to evolve will really show the long-term sustainability of a
- 22:08NASCAR hall of Fame and whether Charlotte was indeed the best choice in location.
- 22:12How the hall chooses to evolve following the COVID-19 pandemic and major social
- 22:17movements such as the Black Lives Matter and Me Too Movements that
- 22:22focus on inclusivity and diversity will also determine the hall's future
- 22:26success as a major sports Hall of fame.
- 22:29And that is it.
- 22:30Thank you very much.
- 22:31Thank you, Hannah.
- 22:32Thank you.
- 22:33I'm Tom Schmee.
- 22:34I was executive director of the National Sprint Car Hall of Fame in
- 22:37museum in Knoxville, Iowa for 19 years, and then curator for another nine.
- 22:41Our perception at the time that Charlotte was successful in getting the bid.
- 22:46Was that it was a low, absolute, low ball application, that there was no way
- 22:50that it was financially sustainable.
- 22:53Just sitting here today, I brought up an article in the Charlotte Observer,
- 22:56October 16th, 2019 by Jen Roth Hacker.
- 23:00The title is Everybody is Losing Money on the NASCAR Hall of Fame.
- 23:03It talks specifically about the dollars and the deals with NASCAR to
- 23:08waive, you know, some of the revenue.
- 23:10It says right in the article in the Charlotte Observer that the
- 23:12Hall of Fame lost a million dollars each year for the first five years.
- 23:16You said that it's hard to get those financials now pre pandemic.
- 23:20Do you know what it was losing in a year or what it was making in a.
- 23:24I do not know the specific numbers.
- 23:26CRVA has been very list lipped on all of their financial records.
- 23:31I do know that they promote the Hall of Fame as being one
- 23:34of their most successful take.
- 23:36That how you will endeavors that they run.
- 23:38They run some of the major entertainment centers within the city.
- 23:42I do know that the earlier years they were losing money at the Hall of Fame.
- 23:46It's continued to be a struggle.
- 23:48I think part of that is that it's because the city itself is running the Hall of
- 23:52Fame and is not a NASCAR run entity.
- 23:55Thank you.
- 23:56Okay, Hannah, I think you covered it all.
- 23:58Excellent.
- 23:59Thank you very much.
- 24:00All right.
- 24:00You take care.
- 24:00Alright, thank you again.
- 24:01Mm, bye-Bye.
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