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The Insiders Podcast: Quentin Lake Live in Studio · NFL Game Previews

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Insiders Summer Friday edition. And you know
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Speaker 1: what that means. Only half a show today, but full
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Speaker 1: show still. Really, guys don't know what summer Fridays means.
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Speaker 1: Judy Batista joining me, Mike Garatfall. Yes, we're going to
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Speaker 1: do a full show and dig into all the news
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Speaker 1: throughout the league. Today. There was even some news on
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Speaker 1: a summer Friday here in the NFL, and it was
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Speaker 1: Michael Pennix, the number eight overall pick, agreeing to terms
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Speaker 1: on a four year rookie deal twenty two point eight
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Speaker 1: million dollars according to our guy rap sheet. Right there,
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Speaker 1: we are under ten first round picks yet to sign,
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Speaker 1: waiting on Caleb Williams at number one, But here is
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Speaker 1: number eight, Michael Pennix, the surprise pick too many, including
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and his agent if you remember back the
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Speaker 1: draft night, the way that this went down, Judy. So
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Speaker 1: this situation will see how it plays out, but we
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Speaker 1: know right now for sure Michael Pennix will be there
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Speaker 1: day one of training camp under contract for the next
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Speaker 1: four years.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's not beat around the bush here. This sets
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Speaker 2: up the best drama in the NFL going into training
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Speaker 2: camp I know we're going to have Russell Wilson and
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Speaker 2: Justin Fields, but this is such an.
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Speaker 3: Unusual, awkward situation.
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Speaker 2: And our buddy Adam Rank actually had this in his
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Speaker 2: look at the Falcons.
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Speaker 3: I didn't know this.
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Speaker 2: He said Cousins would be the first quarterback since at
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Speaker 2: least two thousand to tear his achilles and start Week one. Now,
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Speaker 2: obviously Aaron Rodgers might be doing that too, but Aaron
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Speaker 2: Rodgers got hurt like five minutes into the season. Kirk
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Speaker 2: Cousins played half the season before he suffered this serious injury.
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Speaker 2: I just wonder what happens if Kirk Cousins gets out
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Speaker 2: there this season and doesn't look good and isn't functioning properly.
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Speaker 2: Obviously they are married to Kirk Cousins because of the contract,
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Speaker 2: but it just the presence of Pennick sets up a
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Speaker 2: referendum on Kirk Cousins every week.
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Speaker 1: It does Judy, and they knew that, and they felt
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Speaker 1: confident that Cousins would be able to handle that. On
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Speaker 1: the other side of this, Michael Pennock's coming in. There's
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Speaker 1: really not much he can do to say, Hey, I'm
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Speaker 1: sorry that they drafted me. He wasn't his fault. He
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Speaker 1: wasn't choosing exactly where he wanted to go. So so
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Speaker 1: far this spring, from my understanding, they are pleased with
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Speaker 1: the way that he has handled things. They see his
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Speaker 1: personality coming through the way he goes about his business
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Speaker 1: and starting to assert himself. So I know the Falcons
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Speaker 1: are pleased with what they saw from that or from
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Speaker 1: Penix on that front so far in the spring. Again,
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Speaker 1: once we get in the training camp, then you're going
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Speaker 1: to get into games, the preseason games and see how
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Speaker 1: he really handles himself. And he you know, you talk
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Speaker 1: about Cousins not playing well in the season, what happens
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Speaker 1: If Penix plays well in the preseason, that'll only add
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Speaker 1: a little bit of fuel to that fire that you
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Speaker 1: are talking about. So, Michael Pennix under contract. Ricky Piersall,
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers wide receiver, also agreeing to terms today,
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Speaker 1: team announcing it is a four year contract. My understanding
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Speaker 1: is it is twelve and a half million on the
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Speaker 1: four years on that deal. And I know you're gonna say,
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Speaker 1: you know, potentially Brandon Ayuk and all that stuff, And
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Speaker 1: my understanding was the Niners went into this draft saying
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Speaker 1: there are only a couple of guys that come in
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Speaker 1: right away and are a replacement for Brandon Ayuk. It's
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Speaker 1: not like they're looking at Pearsol to be that guy,
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Speaker 1: but they do like his skill set and they do
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Speaker 1: think that it fits, and they do think potentially he's
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Speaker 1: being able to do some of the stuff that Deebo
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Speaker 1: Samuel does in their offense. So Ricky pearsall officially under contract,
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Speaker 1: he will be ready to go for the start of
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Speaker 1: training camp. Here is Tankdell along with c. J. Stroud
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Speaker 1: at Stroud's football camp. Those two connected a bunch in
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Speaker 1: their rookie seasons, and the Texans expected they will connect
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Speaker 1: a bunch more moving forward. Tank Dell probably looking up
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Speaker 1: at to and saying, hey, I used to watch you
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Speaker 1: growing up. Terrell Owens in attendance at Stroud's football camp,
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Speaker 1: he had some thoughts on the Texans and what to
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Speaker 1: expect this upcoming season.
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Speaker 4: This guy's learning for this guy obviously coming in at
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Speaker 4: the rookie ready kind of establishing him living up to
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Speaker 4: the expectations. And it's only, like I said, it's only
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Speaker 4: going to get better the expectations for obviously him being
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Speaker 4: in Houston. The team goals offtly the opposite the goals
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Speaker 4: to winnister fol Championship. So obviously with this guy, lay
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Speaker 4: surround him the right one with the right weapons. Obviously
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Speaker 4: you have a great coach and Niko Ryans defensively.
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Speaker 1: Thank hey, it's a lot to.
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Speaker 4: Be said for those guys too, and what they did
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Speaker 4: last year, so again that you got to put all
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Speaker 4: that stuff together.
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Speaker 1: Come on in, Jane Slater. One of our reporters joining
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Speaker 1: us today, Omar Ruiz as well. I forgot the teas
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Speaker 1: the reporters that are going to be joining us throughout
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Speaker 1: the show off the top too busy making a stupid
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Speaker 1: summer Friday joke. Jane. Now you're in to talk about
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Speaker 1: the Texans with us and the addition of Stefan Diggs
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Speaker 1: to c J. Strouds arsenal of weapons that he can
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Speaker 1: throw to and how he is going to help this team.
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Speaker 5: I always love when you anchor because it just you
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Speaker 5: just keep it real for us, Mike Gee, you know,
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Speaker 5: keep it light.
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Speaker 1: On a Friday, shake the car on the road.
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Speaker 6: There you go.
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Speaker 5: And I love when I get to I love when
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Speaker 5: I get to talk about other teams guys, because I
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Speaker 5: know ninety nine percent of the time I'm on this
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Speaker 5: network talking about the Cowboys, but I think the Texans
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Speaker 5: are really exciting and a fun team to keep an
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Speaker 5: eye on, and most of that having to do with
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Speaker 5: this offense. I mean, you have toill Owen's right there
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Speaker 5: talking about this guy is a limit for CJ.
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Speaker 3: Stroud.
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Speaker 5: Now go ahead an add to that, Stefan Diggs. You've
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Speaker 5: got a guy that's, you know, in his four Pro Bowls,
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Speaker 5: thirty years old, after stops in Minnesota and Buffalo. Just
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Speaker 5: to hear Diggs tell it, in Houston lately it's been
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Speaker 5: a quote breadth of fresh air. He went on to
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Speaker 5: say that you thrive in a space being around those
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Speaker 5: that genuinely care about you and want to see you win.
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Speaker 5: His addition then adds him to a room that already
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Speaker 5: has Nico Collins, you signed the three year extension in
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Speaker 5: Tank Dell and talking to a few folks the other day,
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Speaker 5: they had this to say about Diggs. He's quote coachable,
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Speaker 5: a natural, savvy veteran who creates separation.
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Speaker 7: He showed that a lot in this spring. Another told
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Speaker 7: me he works hard, good.
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Speaker 5: Attitude, competes, doesn't say much on the field, just works
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Speaker 5: and has been good behind the scenes. I mean, when
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Speaker 5: you guys consider this, this is a offense, it was
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Speaker 5: right thirteenth and scoring last year. We already saw what
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Speaker 5: Bobby Slope was doing with this offense. Now you've got,
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Speaker 5: obviously this defense that I thought was dynamic last year.
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Speaker 5: I think it's not going to be long before we
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Speaker 5: start talking about another team in Texas. Although as we know,
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Speaker 5: the star is very, very bright when it comes to
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Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys and media.
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Speaker 2: Coverage almost blinding, actually, Jane, but I would say this
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Speaker 2: about the Digs and Texans marriage, it's nearly perfect because
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Speaker 2: Diggs excels at things that CJ. Stroud excels that. He
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Speaker 2: is really good versus zone defenses, so is CJ.
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Speaker 3: Stroud.
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Speaker 2: He is really good in the vertical passing game, and
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Speaker 2: so were the Texans last year. And finally, Stefan Diggs
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Speaker 2: is really really productive in the red zone. And that
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Speaker 2: for all of the success that Stroud and the Texans
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Speaker 2: had last year, that was an area where they were
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Speaker 2: a little bit shaky, where they could improve in the
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Speaker 2: red zone. So now you have this experienced red zone weapon. Look,
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Speaker 2: if all of their receivers are healthy at the same time,
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Speaker 2: this is arguably the best wide receiver room in the
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Speaker 2: entire NFL.
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Speaker 3: They're going for it, right, They've got.
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Speaker 2: A quarterback on the rookie contract, They've put all these
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Speaker 2: pieces around him. They were the surprise last year. They're
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Speaker 2: not going to catch many opponents by surprise this year.
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Speaker 2: This is a team to be watched. It's clearly a
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Speaker 2: team on the ruse.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are really some excuse me, some real studs
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Speaker 1: at the position. Nico Collins who just got himself a
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Speaker 1: big contract this offseason, along with Stefan Diggs and Tank
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Speaker 1: dew and Dell. From the time he was in college,
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Speaker 1: what he did was he knew how to find open
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Speaker 1: space and his ability to do that in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: He hit the ground running on that. So if you've
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Speaker 1: got Stefan Diggs added to the mix and you've got
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Speaker 1: attention from defenses toward him, that should only create even
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Speaker 1: more space for Dell to operate or perhaps even vice versa.
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Speaker 1: So this is something that Owens is excited for. We
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Speaker 1: are all excited to see what the Texans are going
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Speaker 1: to bring in your right, Judy, if they stay healthy,
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Speaker 1: stay healthy. I like when teams stay healthy. I like
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Speaker 1: what we when we get to see things play out
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Speaker 1: that we were talking about in June. Kind of like
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Speaker 1: this actually play out into the season. Thank you, Judy
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Speaker 1: and Jane, you're both coming back no summer Fridays. Maybe
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Speaker 1: you missed the top of the show. Barry Sanders, a
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Speaker 1: legend in the NFL and a Detroit Lions legend, had
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Speaker 1: this announcement that just came across earlier today. Over Father's
8:28
Speaker 1: Day weekend, I experienced a health scare related to my heart.
8:30
Speaker 1: Was unexpected and served as a reminder the importance is
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Speaker 1: staying vigilant about our physical well being even when we're
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Speaker 1: feeling fine. I'm grateful to the amazing doctors, nurses, and
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Speaker 1: other healthcare professionals for providing me with the needed care.
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Speaker 1: My family and I are thankful for your prayers and
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Speaker 1: support during this time. Per my doctor's recommendation, I am
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Speaker 1: taking this opportunity to prioritize my health and well being.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate your understanding and continued support. Yes, Barry, we
8:56
Speaker 1: send you here at NFL Network and all of the
8:58
Speaker 1: NFL fans watch, including the Lions who put this out
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Speaker 1: right here. Get well soon, Barry. Yes, we wish you
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Speaker 1: the best there, and we thank you for the message
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Speaker 1: about being viligant, vigilant. Excuse me about your health again,
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Speaker 1: even when you are feeling fine, and we hope that
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Speaker 1: you are feeling fine moving forward. A legendary player and
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Speaker 1: just a gem of a human being, Barry Sanders, we
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Speaker 1: wish you well moving forward. Coming up next on The Insiders,
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Speaker 1: we are going to talk to Rams defensive back Quinton Lake,
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Speaker 1: a guy who was really emerging in, a guy that
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Speaker 1: the Rams are excited about and Sean McVay is excited about.
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Speaker 1: It's a changing defense and this is a guy that
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Speaker 1: really could be front and center for them this upcoming season.
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Speaker 1: Excited to talk to him. Next on The Insiders, Welcome
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Speaker 1: back to the Insiders. Yes, that's Quinton Lake saying specialty
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Speaker 1: and special plays special players. Feels good to be back.
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Speaker 1: That's from when he and Ernest Jones there arrived for
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Speaker 1: the start of off season workouts for the Rams, a
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Speaker 1: season that's got many of them feeling extremely optimistic. To
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Speaker 1: let me bring in Quinton right now, the defensive back
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Speaker 1: for the Rams. We saw more playing time last year,
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Speaker 1: and I believe he's going to see even more playing
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Speaker 1: time in that secondary in twenty twenty four. Quinton joining
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Speaker 1: us from a Los Angeles the NFL Network studios out there. Quinton,
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Speaker 1: how did your off season, or at least the spring part
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Speaker 1: of the program treat you guys?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, the spring part of the offseason was great. You know,
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Speaker 8: it's always fun getting back into the building with your
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Speaker 8: guys and seeing the coaches and the staff and you know,
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Speaker 8: everybody around. But you know, we have a really good team.
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Speaker 8: Everybody's excited about this new upcoming season. So I can't
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Speaker 8: wait to bring the momentum that we actually had in
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Speaker 8: the spring, you know, to training cambin eventually to the season.
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Speaker 2: Your own particular career sort of took off last year
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Speaker 2: and PFF calls you one of their big breakout candidates
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Speaker 2: for twenty twenty four. So what clicked in your mind?
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Speaker 2: What clicked last season and where are you going from there?
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Speaker 8: I think the biggest thing for me was just being
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Speaker 8: able to be versatile. I started off at dime linebacker
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Speaker 8: early in the season and then ended up moving to nickelback.
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Speaker 8: So I always credit myself as being a versatile player,
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Speaker 8: and that's one of the biggest things of why I
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Speaker 8: was able to elevate, you know, eventually later in the
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Speaker 8: season and get that playing time that you guys saw.
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Speaker 8: But being able to understand a playbook and being able
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Speaker 8: to play multiple positions is what kind of elevated me
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Speaker 8: to be able to have the playing time that you
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Speaker 8: guys saw.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about multiple positions. You saw a lot
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Speaker 1: of time in the slot. You're expecting to play a
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Speaker 1: little more safety spot or safety time as well this year.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Chris Shula, the defensive coordinator out there, certainly
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Speaker 1: thinks highly of you, and Sean McVay talked about you
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Speaker 1: as a versatile piece and a key piece of that defense.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll see. We'll see when
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Speaker 8: you know the time comes in training camp. Obviously, I've
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Speaker 8: had my fair share of snaps at safety, at nickel
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Speaker 8: in a bunch of different positions. But Chris rulis our
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Speaker 8: defensive coordinator, and Sean McVay, who is I think one
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Speaker 8: of the best coaches, if not the best coach in
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Speaker 8: the NFL, have really leaned on me this offseason to
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Speaker 8: kind of lead that room. And you know, that's something
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Speaker 8: that you know, I want to do. I want to
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Speaker 8: be that have that leadership role, have that vocal leadership
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Speaker 8: in the back end, you know, to help our team
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Speaker 8: win games. But those are two amazing coaches that have
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Speaker 8: really helped me elevate my game. And I'm just excited
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Speaker 8: to you know, obviously work with them and you know,
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Speaker 8: share the experience and the journey that you know they
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Speaker 8: envision and that I envisioned for myself.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of new faces on that defense, obviously,
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Speaker 2: the new defensive coordinator. You got two rookies that were
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Speaker 2: drafted high for the defensive line, some veterans in the
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Speaker 2: defensive backfield, and of course the big one is who's
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Speaker 2: not there Aaron Donald? What does it mean when a
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Speaker 2: defense loses a player like that, a player and a
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Speaker 2: leader like that.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, sometimes you talk about, you know, are you to
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Speaker 8: replace him? And as we know, you can't place that.
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Speaker 8: You can't replace Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald is you know,
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Speaker 8: the greatest defensive player that we have seen, you know,
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Speaker 8: and he, you know, charm Yvay talked about it. He
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Speaker 8: said he was full and Les Sneed did a great
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Speaker 8: job of finding guys to you know, fit our scheme,
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Speaker 8: our new defensive scheme. But Aaron Donald did a great
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Speaker 8: job of making sure that the guys that were behind
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Speaker 8: him and the guys that were with him are ready.
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Speaker 8: You know, guys like Kobe Turner, guys like Bobby Brown,
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Speaker 8: Byron Young, you know, the young players, young up and
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Speaker 8: coming talented players already. And obviously, like I said, Les
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Speaker 8: Sneed and his staff did a great job of, you know,
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Speaker 8: bringing in new players to kind of help, you know,
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Speaker 8: up upgrade and uplift our scheme. You know, guys like
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Speaker 8: Jared Verse, which is our first round pick, and Branden Fisk,
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Speaker 8: our second round pick. These are guys that you know,
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Speaker 8: love the game, fit our culture, and I'm excited to
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Speaker 8: see what they're going to do. Obviously seeing them in
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Speaker 8: OTAs and obviously in mandatory minycan these guys, they're they're
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Speaker 8: outstanding players and it should be really exciting to you know,
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Speaker 8: for them to show the fans and he in us
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Speaker 8: as players what they can do with this upcoming this
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Speaker 8: upcoming season.
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Speaker 1: Brenton, We spoke earlier in the show about Sean McVay
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Speaker 1: talking about the youth on this roster and it's got
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Speaker 1: him excited and said it feels like to him year
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Speaker 1: one again. Have you seen the way that he has
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Speaker 1: responded this year? I mean, I know he's had a
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Speaker 1: couple of years to get this thing moving in the
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Speaker 1: right direction and feel good about his own situation. Can
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Speaker 1: you see him being rejuvenated right now?
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Speaker 3: Oh, I see it all.
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Speaker 1: I see it every day.
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Speaker 8: I see it every day, especially during OTAs in practice too.
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Speaker 8: You know, obviously he's a young coach that you know,
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Speaker 8: stays active and stuff like that. But you know, from
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Speaker 8: the defensive field, we see him running with the receivers
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Speaker 8: during practice. You know, if it's pat and go, he's
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Speaker 8: running a go route himself. And he even throws you know,
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Speaker 8: he throws the DB's passes, you know, when we're doing
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Speaker 8: our individual drills. So having a coach like that, having
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Speaker 8: a coach that's so invested and passionate and wants to
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Speaker 8: be a part of it.
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Speaker 1: You know, as players, we feed off that.
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Speaker 8: You know, that's that's something that players want to see
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Speaker 8: in their coaches them be active and even.
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Speaker 3: More so when we're in the room now, when we're
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Speaker 3: in the film room.
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Speaker 8: He's a guy that's still learning the game too, about
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Speaker 8: how he can attack defenses, what we as a defense
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Speaker 8: can do better in terms of our adjustments. So having
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Speaker 8: a coach that's not only really the leader of the program,
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Speaker 8: but also a student of the game himself is something
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Speaker 8: that we feed off as players.
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Speaker 3: All right, Quentin, I got.
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Speaker 2: To ask you about the broadcast boot camp that you
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Speaker 2: went through, which is probably obvious to everybody watching this
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Speaker 2: interview that you went through a broadcast boot camp because
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Speaker 2: you're coming for everybody's job already. But afterwards you tweeted
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Speaker 2: that media is no joke. What do you mean by
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Speaker 2: that and what you get out of that bootcamp?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a lot of things that go into it.
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Speaker 8: You know, you don't necessarily see what you know, you
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Speaker 8: guys have to do and what the rest of the
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Speaker 8: whether it's a broadcast or whether.
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Speaker 1: It's an analyst, have to do.
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Speaker 8: There's so much preparation that goes into it, and the
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Speaker 8: broadcast boot camp was one of the most amazing experiences
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Speaker 8: and opportunities that had to do. Obviously, we're here, you know,
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Speaker 8: at the studio going through a series of different you know, events,
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Speaker 8: whether it was radio analysts analytics, whether it was on
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Speaker 8: camera TV commentary, or whether it was just doing stuff
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Speaker 8: like this in the studio. There's a lot that goes
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Speaker 8: into it, and it was so fun. You know, this
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Speaker 8: is something that I wanted to do because I feel
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Speaker 8: like I have a good knowledge of the game and
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Speaker 8: I can you know, explain that knowledge in in a
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Speaker 8: great way and teach people that don't really necessarily know
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Speaker 8: it in a way that makes them learn. But yeah,
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Speaker 8: the broadcast bouquet, it was hard. It was it was
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Speaker 8: It was hard in a good way. It challenged you
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Speaker 8: because as a player, you think, you know, I can
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Speaker 8: do this, I can go in and do this, but
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Speaker 8: you have to do your homework, you have to take notes,
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Speaker 8: you have to you know, be able to listen and
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Speaker 8: kind of humble yourself a little bit because this is
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Speaker 8: a new environment, especially for me, and I was, you know,
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Speaker 8: coming out of that. Obviously I had an experience that
16:53
Speaker 8: was great, but it also made me learn that, you know,
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Speaker 8: if I want to do this, you have to really
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Speaker 8: work hard because this is not only is it a
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Speaker 8: competitive feel, but it is a field that you know,
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Speaker 8: if you don't work hard and you don't take home,
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Speaker 8: do your homework and take notes, you know, it's tough.
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Speaker 1: It is tough. We appreciate you acknowledging how difficult this
17:12
Speaker 1: job can be for U.
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Speaker 8: Credit credit to you guys what you guys do, because
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Speaker 8: it is no sure.
17:17
Speaker 1: There's a however, coming here, it's not making it look
17:19
Speaker 1: so damn easy. No, no, no, that's the thing.
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Speaker 8: You know, I wish I wish I was in the
17:24
Speaker 8: you know, I don't know if you guys are at home,
17:26
Speaker 8: but that's pretty awesome to you know, be at home
17:28
Speaker 8: and do this. There's a there's a ton of cameras
17:30
Speaker 8: that I should you know, you might get lost in
17:31
Speaker 8: the cameras and all the lights in the studio, but
17:33
Speaker 8: no credit to you guys and what you guys do.
17:35
Speaker 8: It's fantastic and you know it's honestly, it's really impressive.
17:39
Speaker 1: I'll spare you the visual rocking the shorts right, you
17:42
Speaker 1: know that's awesome. That's awesome, Quentin Lake. We appreciate your time. Man,
17:48
Speaker 1: you're doing great work. We look forward to working with
17:50
Speaker 1: you one day. In the meantime. Best of luck on
17:53
Speaker 1: your NFL career, Best of luck for you and the
17:54
Speaker 1: Rams in twenty twenty four. Thank you guys so much.
17:57
Speaker 8: This was awesome.
18:00
Speaker 1: Thanks Nil on it still working. He didn't take our
18:02
Speaker 1: job yet, didn't take Wow. We'll be back for at
18:04
Speaker 1: least one more segment. How about that. We'll talk some
18:06
Speaker 1: NFC South We've got an up and coming division here.
18:10
Speaker 1: Who could be at the top once everything shakes out.
18:12
Speaker 1: We'll discuss it after this on the inside. The Atlanta
18:22
Speaker 1: Falcon select Michael Wow.
18:25
Speaker 2: Wow.
18:27
Speaker 1: Why do you think we flew across the coachy not
18:29
Speaker 1: to make you a Falcon bro?
18:30
Speaker 9: Yeah?
18:31
Speaker 4: Sure, I appreciate it.
18:32
Speaker 1: The New Orleans Saints select Totally s whoaga tackle Oregon State.
18:37
Speaker 1: He's like those things at the airport. He's an a PM,
18:40
Speaker 1: automated people mover. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Graham Barton, centered.
18:45
Speaker 10: Duke, really strong hands, outstanding athlete.
18:48
Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers select Xavier Legan, wide receiver, South Carolina.
18:59
Speaker 1: That's what happened on Draft night in the NFC South.
19:02
Speaker 1: The additions there there were much more via free agency
19:05
Speaker 1: and whatnot. Here's two per team, but again, so much
19:09
Speaker 1: more went into the NFC stuff. Feels like there was
19:11
Speaker 1: a ton of movement for all four of these teams.
19:15
Speaker 1: So let's bring in our friend Omar Ruiz to join
19:18
Speaker 1: Judy Batista, Jane Slater, and myself, Mike Garofalo. Omar. Let's
19:22
Speaker 1: start with the Carolina Panthers, who really did some work
19:25
Speaker 1: on both lines. Offensive line defensive line tried to add
19:29
Speaker 1: to those spots via free agency. Bryce Young entering a
19:32
Speaker 1: second season, helping him up front. Yeah, that's pretty smart
19:36
Speaker 1: because he didn't have that help in his rookie season.
19:40
Speaker 10: Yeah, And by all accounts, Bryce Young looking much more
19:42
Speaker 10: comfortable in year two as he continues to evolve as
19:45
Speaker 10: a leader, both on the field and in the locker room.
19:48
Speaker 10: I spoke with Panthers head coach Dave Canalis recently, who
19:51
Speaker 10: told me that Bryce Young has been impressive the way
19:54
Speaker 10: he's picked up the offense, the rhythm and the timing
19:56
Speaker 10: of it. How accurate he is with the football. Of course,
19:59
Speaker 10: hitting his spot, but he's able to move that spot
20:02
Speaker 10: depending on the style and the speed of the specific receivers.
20:06
Speaker 10: He said he appreciates his hard work and consistency. As
20:09
Speaker 10: for the offense that Canalis is installing for Bryce Young
20:13
Speaker 10: and company, it is West Coast style, the concepts that
20:19
Speaker 10: we've seen from the McVeigh and Shanahan with more aggressive
20:23
Speaker 10: vertical routes attached to that offense. You have the the
20:27
Speaker 10: zone read options that Russell Wilson ran when Dave Canalis
20:31
Speaker 10: was with him in Seattle. He said the team is
20:34
Speaker 10: picking it up because there is familiarity there with Thomas
20:37
Speaker 10: Brown being the offensive coordinator last year obviously came from
20:42
Speaker 10: the Los Angeles Rams before that working under Sean McVay.
20:45
Speaker 10: Canalis developed his offense in part working with Shane Waldron
20:50
Speaker 10: when they were in Seattle together, and Waldron had come
20:52
Speaker 10: from the LA Rams. So because of that, even though
20:55
Speaker 10: Canalis said they're building the offense and installing it from
20:58
Speaker 10: the ground up, there is familiarity for the players there,
21:00
Speaker 10: and he said they're picking it up well as a
21:02
Speaker 10: head into training camp here next month.
21:05
Speaker 2: I feel like, to be fair to Bryce Young, we
21:07
Speaker 2: should just wipe the slate clean and almost act as
21:10
Speaker 2: if this is his rookie season, not last year. Last
21:14
Speaker 2: year was such a mess. There too many voices in
21:16
Speaker 2: his ear, not enough help. He got beaten up. He
21:21
Speaker 2: was the second most sacked quarterback in the NFL, behind
21:23
Speaker 2: only Sam Howell. Didn't really have any weapons. I feel
21:27
Speaker 2: like nobody could have could have been successful in the
21:30
Speaker 2: Panthers organization last.
21:31
Speaker 3: Year, and so this is a fresh start up.
21:34
Speaker 2: Dave Canals, I feel like, is the perfect choice now
21:37
Speaker 2: to bring Brys Young long. First of all, his demeanor
21:39
Speaker 2: is so positive and upbeat and encouraging. But second of all,
21:43
Speaker 2: he's got a track record of working with quarterbacks who
21:46
Speaker 2: sort of need.
21:47
Speaker 3: To be rebuilt.
21:48
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy to say that Bryce Young needs
21:50
Speaker 2: to be rebuilt in only his second season, but Dave
21:52
Speaker 2: Canal has had great success with Gino Smith and of
21:55
Speaker 2: course with Baker in Tampa, and so he knows how
21:58
Speaker 2: to handle quarterback who've been beaten up a little bit
22:01
Speaker 2: and maybe who need their confidence restored. And of course
22:04
Speaker 2: it doesn't hurt that they've really upgraded the offensive line
22:07
Speaker 2: and upgraded the weapons. I feel like this is a
22:10
Speaker 2: fresh start and the fresh start that Bryce Young really needs.
22:14
Speaker 1: As you were talking about his rookie season and how
22:16
Speaker 1: much went into it that really kind of messed with
22:18
Speaker 1: his head a little bit. I'm thinking Dave Canalis is
22:20
Speaker 1: the perfect guy for him, and then you said Dave
22:21
Speaker 1: Canalos is the perfect guye for him, Judy, So I'm
22:23
Speaker 1: right there with you on this one with regard to
22:26
Speaker 1: getting him on track in year two. Jane, Earlier this week,
22:30
Speaker 1: we had Jamal Williams, the Saints running back, on and
22:33
Speaker 1: we asked him about the new offensive coordinator, Clint Kubiak,
22:37
Speaker 1: and he said Ooo. I did a bunch of words.
22:39
Speaker 1: He was talking so fast. I only caught half of them.
22:41
Speaker 1: But I know he's excited because when he starts talking
22:44
Speaker 1: like that and he's going, he's going, he's going, he's excited.
22:46
Speaker 1: I know the Saints are excited. The offensive players down
22:48
Speaker 1: there all excited about Clint Kubiak. Why is that? What's
22:51
Speaker 1: this offense going to look like with Kubiak?
22:55
Speaker 5: I love Jamal Williams, I love the Saints. There's such
22:57
Speaker 5: a fun team to cover. They have such a great
22:59
Speaker 5: energy within their locker room. But there is a real
23:02
Speaker 5: excitement about Clint Kubiak. You know, remember last year there
23:06
Speaker 5: was a lot of questions about Dennis Allen and whether
23:08
Speaker 5: he was the guy for the job moving forward. The
23:10
Speaker 5: Saints ultimately decided they were going to hang with them,
23:12
Speaker 5: but they went out and got Clink Kubiak, a guy
23:14
Speaker 5: that has been around the league, working with guys like
23:17
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins in Minnesota. Remember that big year with case
23:20
Speaker 5: Keenum in Denver. He was the forty nine ers passing
23:23
Speaker 5: a specialist. Last season, they were second in total offense
23:26
Speaker 5: during the regular season, and I reached out to Cam Jordan,
23:29
Speaker 5: I said, what were you seeing on the other side,
23:31
Speaker 5: And he said, look, you've seen the weapons he utilized
23:33
Speaker 5: with the Niners. He's got weapons there like you know
23:37
Speaker 5: the guys like Kittle. You know, he's got McCaffrey, Goes.
23:40
Speaker 5: But we've got ak Tasim, alve A, Rashid. We may
23:44
Speaker 5: have more playmakers, which would be an interesting debate.
23:47
Speaker 7: Don't know if I fully agree with.
23:48
Speaker 5: That, guys, but the point he's saying is they're seeing
23:51
Speaker 5: a lot there.
23:52
Speaker 7: Now a lot of people.
23:53
Speaker 5: Have skimmed over this one thing that Clint Kubiak said
23:55
Speaker 5: during one of his camp pressers, and I made some
23:58
Speaker 5: calls this afternoon about it.
24:00
Speaker 7: Talked about an emphasis on meeting as a.
24:02
Speaker 5: Larger group as opposed to these individual meetings. Now some
24:05
Speaker 5: of these individual meetings are still happening, but his philosophy
24:09
Speaker 5: is that they really need one voice. They all need
24:11
Speaker 5: to get on the same page because they've got so
24:13
Speaker 5: many staff members. And so I thought that was really
24:16
Speaker 5: really interesting, And talking to one coach, he said that
24:19
Speaker 5: he considers Kubiak to be a stud already, that this
24:22
Speaker 5: guy has really really impressed Dennis Allen was talking about
24:26
Speaker 5: this offense, and you know, he's obviously got a lot
24:29
Speaker 5: to do with the defense. He says, he's really got
24:31
Speaker 5: defense on their toes. You know, guys like Tomrio Davis
24:34
Speaker 5: that he referenced, who's been in New Orleans for such
24:36
Speaker 5: a long time. It can't just come in here and
24:38
Speaker 5: expect the same old things.
24:39
Speaker 3: He says.
24:39
Speaker 5: They're seeing a lot of motion shifts, a lot of
24:42
Speaker 5: moving parts.
24:43
Speaker 7: So something to be excited about.
24:45
Speaker 3: Now.
24:45
Speaker 5: The two things to keep an eye on as we
24:47
Speaker 5: head into camp Alvin Kamara. You know, he showed up
24:50
Speaker 5: to walk throughs and then he left, so we'll see
24:53
Speaker 5: if he makes it there in Irvine when they finally
24:55
Speaker 5: move camp out to California. And thank god, guys, when
24:58
Speaker 5: I go down to New Orleans and Metay and cover
25:01
Speaker 5: training camp, it is a bruiser. Dennis Allen talking a
25:05
Speaker 5: little bit about that, saying, you know what the humidity
25:07
Speaker 5: does to their bodies. This is really going to give
25:09
Speaker 5: them a good opportunity. They haven't been away from Mettery
25:12
Speaker 5: in the last couple of years, so good opportunity sort
25:14
Speaker 5: of to reboot this thing and get the guys all
25:16
Speaker 5: in one hotel, one page. The other bummer that happened
25:19
Speaker 5: for them, Juwan Johnson to tight end injured his foot
25:23
Speaker 5: in practice, Dennis Allen calling it a non event. He
25:25
Speaker 5: had surgery this week. That's unfortunate. So we'll see what
25:29
Speaker 5: they do there at the tight end position and of
25:31
Speaker 5: course at the running back position.
25:33
Speaker 7: But really interesting to see how this whole thing comes together.
25:36
Speaker 1: Nothing new on the Alvin Kamara front. From my understanding,
25:38
Speaker 1: this is something that is going to be right up
25:40
Speaker 1: against the start of training camp. We're gonna have to
25:42
Speaker 1: check back in to see if something gets done there.
25:44
Speaker 1: It's not like his mini camp walk out spurred talks
25:46
Speaker 1: by any stretch. So that's one thing. Number Two. I
25:50
Speaker 1: heard you say you made some calls today, Jane, on
25:52
Speaker 1: a summer Friday to people in the NFL. Did they
25:55
Speaker 1: call you back? Because nobody's call like nobody is working,
25:58
Speaker 1: and I tried to get into ut nobody's calling back.
26:03
Speaker 7: I try to reach out and get a hold of car.
26:06
Speaker 5: No luck Kubiak was in Disneyland or Disney World with
26:09
Speaker 5: the family, all of them, or you know, Look, the
26:12
Speaker 5: NFL season is getting.
26:13
Speaker 7: Longer and longer, as you all know. I'll be going
26:15
Speaker 7: on vacation here in about a week and a half.
26:18
Speaker 7: You got to get it in when you can fit
26:19
Speaker 7: it in so respect.
26:21
Speaker 3: To all of them.
26:22
Speaker 7: But we'll of course have plenty of.
26:23
Speaker 5: Booze nuggets on the insiders whence training camp really gets underway.
26:27
Speaker 1: At least you got an explanation for why some people
26:29
Speaker 1: weren't getting back to you. I got just a bunch
26:31
Speaker 1: of blue texts on the right side here, no great,
26:34
Speaker 1: Where is everybody? We'll teck back is around? Thank you,
26:39
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jane Slayer, Judy Vatisa, and Omar Ruiz. I
26:42
Speaker 1: think you're all coming back, or maybe Jane's not. James
26:45
Speaker 1: take the rest of the night off. Marvin Harrison. The
26:48
Speaker 1: addition to the Cardinals, one that they expect to bear
26:51
Speaker 1: fruit immediately and one that they were excited about on
26:55
Speaker 1: draft night.
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Speaker 6: Mormon, Hey, how are you going? Hey man, this is
27:03
Speaker 6: Monty at the Cardinals.
27:04
Speaker 8: How are you he doing great?
27:06
Speaker 9: How are you?
27:06
Speaker 6: How's the how's the night going there?
27:08
Speaker 1: Pretty good?
27:09
Speaker 8: Pretty good?
27:10
Speaker 1: A lot better.
27:10
Speaker 6: Now it's gonna get a lot better. We're gonna put
27:13
Speaker 6: your name in right now. Okay. I know you're surrounded
27:16
Speaker 6: by family and friends, enjoyed this moment with them. A
27:19
Speaker 6: lot of people have helped you get to where you
27:21
Speaker 6: are and it's just beginning.
27:22
Speaker 9: All right, Yes, sir, thank you very much.
27:24
Speaker 8: I appreciate.
27:24
Speaker 6: Here we go, let's go listen to me now, okay,
27:27
Speaker 6: it's been you man. We're excited to bring you here.
27:30
Speaker 6: You got three jobs, all right, get over, get over,
27:34
Speaker 6: catch the ball, and help us win a lot of games.
27:37
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I got you.
27:38
Speaker 6: I got you.
27:43
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Speaker 1: are downloaded. The Cardinals getting excited to see what their
28:02
Speaker 1: offense is going to be is going to look like.
28:04
Speaker 1: There is Kyler Murray on the left side. There is
28:06
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison on the right side, both holding a football.
28:10
Speaker 1: The football will travel from the one on the left
28:13
Speaker 1: to the one on the right plenty this season if
28:16
Speaker 1: the Cardinals plan comes to fruition. That plan Judipatista and
28:21
Speaker 1: Omar Ruiz was to draft Marvin Harrison Junior and just
28:24
Speaker 1: let them rip. Kyler recently said that Marvin Harrison will
28:29
Speaker 1: take their offense to the next level. Omar, what kind
28:32
Speaker 1: of level?
28:32
Speaker 10: We talking about here, Well, if you remember in the
28:36
Speaker 10: second half of the season last year when Kyler came back,
28:38
Speaker 10: this was one of the top performing offenses in the
28:40
Speaker 10: entire NFL, and so so much focus on Marvin Harrison Junior,
28:44
Speaker 10: what he might add to this offense here this spring,
28:46
Speaker 10: the explosiveness here in year two of Drew Petsing's offense.
28:50
Speaker 10: But the feeling inside the building is that Kyler Murray
28:53
Speaker 10: himself he could elevate to a level that we haven't
28:56
Speaker 10: seen him play yet in the NFL. And granted, he's
28:59
Speaker 10: a playoff performer, a two time Pro Bowler, and Offensive
29:03
Speaker 10: Rookie of the Year previously, and he says he's feeling
29:05
Speaker 10: as good as he has since he's been in the NFL.
29:07
Speaker 10: He compared to how good and confident he's feeling right
29:10
Speaker 10: now as to when he won the Heisman at Oklahoma.
29:13
Speaker 1: So they're hoping that he can elevate.
29:14
Speaker 10: Jonathan Gannon saying that Kyler Murray's competitiveness, his will to
29:18
Speaker 10: win is exactly what you want in a franchise quarterback.
29:21
Speaker 10: That has been on display all off season in the
29:25
Speaker 10: OTAs and in the mini camp. As far as running
29:28
Speaker 10: the offense, Gannon says that Murray has full command of it,
29:31
Speaker 10: and he said that he has all the answers to
29:33
Speaker 10: the pressures. He says he almost looks bored back there,
29:36
Speaker 10: recognizing what the defenses are giving them. He's able to
29:39
Speaker 10: find that completion. And he said it's very similar to
29:41
Speaker 10: quarterbacks he previously worked with in Philip Rivers and Andrew
29:45
Speaker 10: Luck and Jalen Hurts. But he said the key for
29:47
Speaker 10: Kyler Murray now is to do that consistently. And then
29:50
Speaker 10: there's the leadership component that Murray has elevated here in
29:53
Speaker 10: this offseason. He's formed chemistry with his receivers, working with
29:57
Speaker 10: them on the weekends in between their workout at OTA's
30:01
Speaker 10: at the facility and during mini camp, and he even
30:03
Speaker 10: took some of his teammates to Oklahoma City for a
30:06
Speaker 10: Thunder game during the playoffs and the NBA so forming
30:10
Speaker 10: that bonding with the team on and off the field.
30:13
Speaker 10: And interesting to hear all of this given that early
30:16
Speaker 10: in Murray's career all the negative things that were said
30:18
Speaker 10: about him in terms of leadership and work ethic and
30:21
Speaker 10: everything been a complete opposite since Jonathan Gannon and many
30:24
Speaker 10: Austin for it, have taken over.
30:27
Speaker 2: You know, just listening to what you were saying, Omar,
30:29
Speaker 2: it made me think. And I'm not comparing Marvin Harrison
30:32
Speaker 2: to Stephan Diggs and I'm not comparing Kyler Murray to
30:34
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, but it is the sort of thing that
30:37
Speaker 2: happened in Buffalo when they got Stephan Diggs and then
30:40
Speaker 2: you really saw Josh Allen take off and become the
30:44
Speaker 2: quarterback that he is now. And you do wonder. I mean,
30:46
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray has been good, and he's had good receivers before,
30:51
Speaker 2: but Marvin Harrison Junior is a different level of receiver,
30:54
Speaker 2: and you do wonder if that's going to help Kyler
30:57
Speaker 2: Murray's career reach another level. Because Marvin Harrison can do everything.
31:01
Speaker 2: He can win one on one battles, he can win
31:04
Speaker 2: at every level of the field. He is obviously going
31:08
Speaker 2: to draw an awful lot of attention from defenses to
31:11
Speaker 2: open up other targets for Kyler Murray.
31:14
Speaker 3: And I think that.
31:15
Speaker 2: This will give this might give Kyler Murray the confidence to.
31:18
Speaker 1: Go to him.
31:19
Speaker 2: We saw him feed the ball to DeAndre Hopkins over
31:22
Speaker 2: and over again, even when Hopkins was covered, and this
31:25
Speaker 2: feels like that that Marvin Harrison can win all of
31:29
Speaker 2: those matchups, and that's going to give Kyler Murray an
31:32
Speaker 2: awful lot of confidence to go to him. I wonder
31:35
Speaker 2: if we're going to see that sort of takeoff in
31:38
Speaker 2: his career the way we saw for Josh Allen.
31:40
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've had some discussions with defensive coaches about how
31:43
Speaker 1: do you treat Marvin Harrison Junior from day from day one?
31:46
Speaker 1: Is he going to be the guy that you're going
31:47
Speaker 1: to have to make sure we know where he is
31:49
Speaker 1: on the field. Is he going to have to have
31:50
Speaker 1: some help over the top or your cornerback whoever. It
31:53
Speaker 1: is unlike that b role that we keep showing with
31:55
Speaker 1: all those poor cornerbacks drying their best but being unable
31:59
Speaker 1: to stop the ball from landing in Marvin Harrison Junior's hands.
32:02
Speaker 1: I'll bet you they're as excited as we are for
32:04
Speaker 1: training camp just so we can get some footage of
32:06
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison running by NFL caliber cornerbacks. We don't have
32:09
Speaker 1: to keep showing these guys over and over. Speaking of
32:11
Speaker 1: training camp, that is a sweet polo right there from
32:14
Speaker 1: Omar Ruiz. That's the inside train polo that we're gonna
32:17
Speaker 1: unveil in just a couple of weeks here as we
32:19
Speaker 1: get back on the road for inside training camp. He'll
32:22
Speaker 1: be spending time out there, Judy, I and I will
32:24
Speaker 1: be spending time out there, and we'll have you at
32:25
Speaker 1: the Cardinals plenty, which wuld be a home game for
32:28
Speaker 1: you and a chance to see that offense on display.
32:30
Speaker 1: Thank you, Omar Ruiz. It's quitting time. Do your best
32:33
Speaker 1: stone called Steve Austin in Freshmon. In fact, if I
32:35
Speaker 1: had two cans of beer, I'd throw them to you myself.
32:38
Speaker 9: Man.
32:38
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Yeah, you know who else is
32:43
Speaker 1: celebrating here. That's me Cole Hartman. Yeah, another ring for
32:47
Speaker 1: the Hartman's right there. Will you marry me? Yes, she will.
32:51
Speaker 1: So congratulations to the two of you. We wish you
32:54
Speaker 1: a lifetime of happiness and we wish you the smoothest
32:58
Speaker 1: wedding planning process that you could possibly imagine. It is
33:01
Speaker 1: not always smooth, so good luck to you on that
33:04
Speaker 1: one of Congratulations Mikal Hartman on your engagement. Coming up,
33:09
Speaker 1: We've got the secret to the Bucks success joining us.
33:12
Speaker 1: It's not Baker Mayfield, it's actually someone in the front office. Yeah,
33:16
Speaker 1: that's right, we cracked the code. It's Jackie Davidson. She's
33:19
Speaker 1: going to join us next. You want to ask her
33:21
Speaker 1: about being the key to the Buck success the last
33:23
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, Welcome back to the Insiders. This week,
33:35
Speaker 1: at NFL Media's studios in Los Angeles, the league hosted
33:38
Speaker 1: the fourth annual Ozzie knew Some General Manager Forum and
33:42
Speaker 1: seventh Annual Quarterback Coaching Summit. NFLGMS coaches and front office
33:47
Speaker 1: executives addressed a diverse crowd of college and NFL personnel
33:51
Speaker 1: looking to advance their careers through professional development and networking opportunities.
33:56
Speaker 1: Among the panelists was our next guest here on the Insiders, Bucks,
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Speaker 1: vice President of Football Research. And there's a lot more
34:04
Speaker 1: that goes into that title than just the research. We're
34:07
Speaker 1: going to get into that in just a second. Jackie
34:09
Speaker 1: Davidson is with us. Jackie, how is the summit going
34:13
Speaker 1: out there in LA Some It's been great.
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Speaker 9: Anytime I think any of us can get together and
34:18
Speaker 9: sort of just bounce ideas off of each other, listen
34:21
Speaker 9: to what one another are doing in our respective roles,
34:24
Speaker 9: it's a great learning experience for everybody.
34:28
Speaker 2: I know. Jackie, you presented to the group, So what
34:31
Speaker 2: did you present about.
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Speaker 9: So it was funny because I initially got the call
34:37
Speaker 9: to present, I thought I was going yesterday on the
34:38
Speaker 9: GM day, and I actually went today on the QB
34:41
Speaker 9: Summit day, speaking about game day analytics and coaching and
34:45
Speaker 9: just trying to, you know, kind of reframe how we
34:47
Speaker 9: talk about analytics, how we think about it from a
34:49
Speaker 9: coaching standpoint.
34:51
Speaker 1: Now, listen, that gets me right into what I wanted
34:53
Speaker 1: to talk about with your title, because you know football research, yes,
34:57
Speaker 1: and there's a contract aspect of it, but there is
34:59
Speaker 1: a game day aspect to what you do. You are
35:02
Speaker 1: involved in the day or the minute to minute really
35:06
Speaker 1: decisions second the second decisions that are made during the game.
35:08
Speaker 1: You're on the headset. You're communicating with Todd Bowles. You're
35:11
Speaker 1: telling them about here's what this situation calls for. Analytically,
35:15
Speaker 1: you're helping to make these decisions. I need to get
35:18
Speaker 1: into the headset. I need to hear what a conversation
35:20
Speaker 1: is like when you and Ballzy are going at it.
35:23
Speaker 9: We go at it very mildly.
35:27
Speaker 1: He's a very mild mannered individual.
35:31
Speaker 9: So even when he even when he gets upset about
35:34
Speaker 9: me about some of the things that I may suggest
35:35
Speaker 9: that we do. He doesn't really let a lot of
35:37
Speaker 9: it show. But when I first came into this role,
35:41
Speaker 9: it was with the idea that you know, it's going
35:43
Speaker 9: to be part analytics, part salary cap and it's kind
35:46
Speaker 9: of just grown into this edition of kind of the
35:49
Speaker 9: game day responsibilities. And with my relationship with Todd, I
35:52
Speaker 9: think when I first sort of went into kind of
35:55
Speaker 9: taking on some of these some of these added duties,
35:58
Speaker 9: it was more about how can I help him and
36:00
Speaker 9: how can I help the team be more successful?
36:04
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the team. Baker Mayfield's obviously
36:08
Speaker 2: helped the transition from the Tom Brady era to the
36:11
Speaker 2: post Tom Brady era maybe a lot more smoothly than
36:14
Speaker 2: most of us expected, thanks in large part to Baker.
36:18
Speaker 3: And now he's coming back.
36:20
Speaker 2: He has said he wants to be a more vocal leader,
36:22
Speaker 2: he wants to be more in charge. From your perspective
36:25
Speaker 2: on the headset, from a front office perspective, from an
36:28
Speaker 2: analytics perspective, what did Baker bring to the box that
36:32
Speaker 2: made this so successful?
36:35
Speaker 9: I think the first thing he did he was a
36:38
Speaker 9: embodiment of the team and kind of what the sort
36:42
Speaker 9: of the perspective of the team was right. It was
36:44
Speaker 9: this you know, team that was anticipated to win four
36:48
Speaker 9: games and kind of came out with a chip on
36:51
Speaker 9: its shoulder. And I think that Baker took all of
36:53
Speaker 9: that on. And when you were coming after someone of
36:55
Speaker 9: a caliber like a Tom Brady, that's a hard you know,
36:58
Speaker 9: there's a hard shoe to Fiel because of his mental makeup,
37:01
Speaker 9: and you know, the idea that oh, you say we
37:04
Speaker 9: can't do that, We're going to show you. He walked
37:06
Speaker 9: in with that confidence embody that and I think everyone
37:09
Speaker 9: from players to front office kind of kind of took
37:11
Speaker 9: that on as well.
37:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kam, I was speaking of one of your colleagues
37:14
Speaker 1: earlier today, Mike Greenberg, who you work hand in hand
37:17
Speaker 1: with when it comes to the contract negotiations with agents
37:21
Speaker 1: and players, and he said, you know, I've been here
37:24
Speaker 1: since twenty ten. I've experienced a lot of losing. Jackie
37:27
Speaker 1: comes in twenty twenty, I believe it is the year
37:30
Speaker 1: that you arrived three division titles and a Super Bowl title. Jackie,
37:35
Speaker 1: what's the secret sauce?
37:37
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, I don't know, but whatever it is,
37:40
Speaker 9: I'm going to figure it out and use it for
37:41
Speaker 9: our next negotiation. Because I was just having a conversation
37:43
Speaker 9: with someone today and talking about I having experience not
37:46
Speaker 9: going to the playoffs with the Bucks. I just I
37:49
Speaker 9: think one of the things is a very you know,
37:52
Speaker 9: well run organization at top to bottom. We can't give
37:56
Speaker 9: enough priest to Jason light who the staff that he's
38:00
Speaker 9: put together, the way he runs things. I think that,
38:03
Speaker 9: you know, it just it speaks to kind of what
38:05
Speaker 9: he's done and from the top down, what we've been
38:07
Speaker 9: able to do the last couple of years.
38:10
Speaker 2: To be fair, Jackie did also work at the Jets,
38:13
Speaker 2: so she did not win a Super Bowl at the
38:15
Speaker 2: Jets before she went to the bar.
38:16
Speaker 1: We're not going to men. You didn't have to bring that.
38:20
Speaker 3: Up all right back to the Bucks.
38:25
Speaker 2: You got a new offensive coordinator, Lian Cohene. What do
38:28
Speaker 2: you expect the offense to look like? Will it be
38:32
Speaker 2: much different? Is Baker going to be doing different things?
38:35
Speaker 2: What do you expect from the offense going forward here?
38:39
Speaker 9: I would think it would, you know, there would be
38:40
Speaker 9: some different aspects to it. One if you look at
38:42
Speaker 9: the different backgrounds of Dave Canalis, who obviously is non Carolina,
38:45
Speaker 9: and Liam they have, you know, different ideas of what
38:49
Speaker 9: they think that should look like. And with that come
38:50
Speaker 9: different ideas of the quarterbacks role within that offense. Right,
38:54
Speaker 9: And so with Baker going into year two and some
38:56
Speaker 9: of the success that we had in year one to
38:59
Speaker 9: be able to build on at and you know, kind
39:01
Speaker 9: of put more on his plate because it's not a
39:04
Speaker 9: you know, you're not a one year deal guy that's
39:06
Speaker 9: coming in and we're in and it's more of a transition,
39:09
Speaker 9: like you're the guy now, So there's more I think
39:11
Speaker 9: expected of him, and I think, you know, William is
39:14
Speaker 9: kind of kind of seeing that and done that as
39:16
Speaker 9: he's come in.
39:18
Speaker 1: Jackie Davidson a candidate for front office jobs in the
39:22
Speaker 1: NFL moving forward. You're going to hear her name, and look,
39:25
Speaker 1: if you're thinking of hiring Jackie Davidson, here's how I'll
39:28
Speaker 1: put it to you. Okay, she went to undergrad in
39:30
Speaker 1: a school in North Carolina. So did a famous basketball player.
39:34
Speaker 1: But they don't call it Curry College. They do not
39:36
Speaker 1: call it Davidson College. Okay, that's all I'm going to say. Right,
39:40
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. How did you decide? How did Jackie
39:43
Speaker 1: Davidson decide to go to Davidson College? Like, how did
39:45
Speaker 1: that come up?
39:46
Speaker 3: You know, it sort of came up organically.
39:48
Speaker 9: I didn't even know there was a college named Davidson
39:50
Speaker 9: before I started getting recruits from there.
39:52
Speaker 3: Had zero idea.
39:53
Speaker 9: The thing that never ceases to amaze me, though, is
39:55
Speaker 9: how many people will ask me if I knew that
39:58
Speaker 9: the college had my last name, And it's just every
40:02
Speaker 9: time I hear it's a crazy question, like, yeah, I
40:05
Speaker 9: had some inkling, but you know, some of the best
40:07
Speaker 9: four years of my life.
40:08
Speaker 1: So there you go. Well had one more because I
40:11
Speaker 1: just asked you about it. Jackie Davidson, thank you very much.
40:14
Speaker 1: We wish you all the best going forward, and we'll
40:16
Speaker 1: let everybody know whatever's happening with the Bucks the last
40:18
Speaker 1: four years because of Jackie davids.
40:20
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
40:21
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Jackie Davidson shining that Super Bowl ring that
40:25
Speaker 1: you want. A couple of years ago, we want to
40:27
Speaker 1: talk about a team that's won four Super Bowls. That's
40:29
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. They're coming up on a hundred
40:32
Speaker 1: years in their franchise history, and they voted for the
40:35
Speaker 1: top plays in the franchise history was this. It was
40:38
Speaker 1: this number one. Last night, a cavalcade of Giants stars
40:49
Speaker 1: past and present filled the theater at MSG in New
40:52
Speaker 1: York City for an event celebrating the team's one hundredth anniversary.
40:56
Speaker 1: Fans listened to paddle discussions, got up close and personal
40:59
Speaker 1: with Hall of Fame artifacts, and saw some of the
41:01
Speaker 1: biggest names in team history, legends like Lawrence Taylor, Eli Manning,
41:06
Speaker 1: Peter Schrieger, Till Simms, and Justin Tuck race the stage.
41:10
Speaker 1: Wait what and the team revealed David Tyree Super Bowl
41:14
Speaker 1: forty two helmet catch as the fans vote for the
41:17
Speaker 1: greatest play in the first ninety nine years of Giants football.
41:22
Speaker 1: Judy Batista, you were on hand for the festivities. Talk
41:26
Speaker 1: to us about the moment that this was revealed, as
41:29
Speaker 1: well as what you saw the entire night with all
41:31
Speaker 1: those stars and attendance.
41:34
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, that had to be the most
41:37
Speaker 2: predictable vote, imaginable, right, I mean, there's just no other choice.
41:40
Speaker 2: It had to be the helmet catch, I think, even
41:42
Speaker 2: though the Manningham catch from Eli in the next Super
41:45
Speaker 2: Bowl that was maybe the best pitch and catch I'll
41:48
Speaker 2: ever see. Anyway, it was a great night, Lots and
41:52
Speaker 2: lots of giant stars and legends, My favorite personal moment
41:56
Speaker 2: was Keavon Tippodeaux was there and he was talking about
41:59
Speaker 2: how great it is to be part of a franchise
42:00
Speaker 2: that has a long, illustrious history of great pass rushers,
42:04
Speaker 2: and of course there's the greatest pass rusher ever, Lawrence Taylor,
42:08
Speaker 2: and Kavon said he ran into Lawrence Taylor backstage and
42:11
Speaker 2: LT said to him, you know, how many sacks did
42:13
Speaker 2: you have last year? And Kaivon said, you know, eleven
42:16
Speaker 2: and a half, pretty good, and LT said, what'd you play?
42:19
Speaker 3: Three games? So it's that kind of night.
42:22
Speaker 2: Lots of good banter between current and past giants, legends,
42:26
Speaker 2: but really cool to see everybody. Bill Parcells was there,
42:29
Speaker 2: Tom Coughlin was there.
42:30
Speaker 3: Both looked great. Nice to see everybody together.
42:33
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard LT, but they made
42:35
Speaker 1: it a little harder on defenses since you last played,
42:37
Speaker 1: changed up a couple of the rules there to make
42:39
Speaker 1: you go.
42:40
Speaker 3: Tell LT that.
42:42
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm gonna stay right here, beauty and the
42:45
Speaker 1: comforts of my home, but thank you very much. Actually,
42:48
Speaker 1: I'm going to stay in the comfort of my home
42:49
Speaker 1: for the next thirty seconds or so, and then I'm off.
42:52
Speaker 1: I'm taking off next week, Tom Pellisterero, we'll be back
42:56
Speaker 1: with you to lead the way on the insiders. I
42:58
Speaker 1: am going to Bar ten for the first time ever
43:01
Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey's Catch twenty two event that's happening at the
43:04
Speaker 1: Ocean Drive down there in Sea Isle City where I
43:06
Speaker 1: spent many day in my youth. Proceeds that's right benefit
43:10
Speaker 1: the Eagles and Autism Foundation. If you are attending this event,
43:13
Speaker 1: don't you dare think about ordering a mixed drink when
43:15
Speaker 1: I am behind the bar. You seem like more of
43:18
Speaker 1: a shot in the beer type crowd, So please, I
43:21
Speaker 1: want to do a little bit of twisting and a
43:22
Speaker 1: little bit of pouring, and that's about it. There will
43:25
Speaker 1: be no mixing. There will be no shaking your thoughts
43:28
Speaker 1: on my bartending skills, Judy, that you've never seen.
43:32
Speaker 2: I am going to get Christine Martin and we're going
43:34
Speaker 2: to head down the shore and we're going to order
43:36
Speaker 2: like the most complex mixed drink we can come up with.
43:40
Speaker 1: Listen, I don't know about that part of bartending, but
43:42
Speaker 1: I'm more than happy to listen to your worries, your concerns.
43:46
Speaker 1: You know I can be the ear for you. That's
43:48
Speaker 1: part of a bartender's job. A penny for your thoughts,
43:50
Speaker 1: Champ as I wipe the bar, you know something like that. Anyway,
43:53
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43:56
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