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03/27/2024 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Ric Cavender, Ryan Nicholson · The Dave Allen Show

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a little bit later on the show, We're gonna have Rick cavturs dot by.
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Rick of course is with Charleston Urban Works and they recently completed a survey
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as it has to do with business here in the Kanav Valley, and Rick
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asked for a little time to come on to talk about that. So we're
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going to get into that coming up a little bit later on. Also scheduled
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to have with us candidate for magistrate in Canawhan County, Tracy Cable. Tracy
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was scheduled to be here last week and had to postponed because of a family
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emergency, and as of yet, I have not heard from her this morning.
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Talked to her yesterday she said I'm on my way or that she'll be
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there tomorrow. She'd say, which is today? And so I've reached out
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to her repeated times this morning and having heard from it, so if she
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comes in, I got her scheduled till about nine to twenty this morning.
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So Tresey, if you happen to be listening right now, you're late.
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I'd like to get the opportunity for our candidates to come in and be on
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the show, but got to respect my time too, So come on,
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come on in. And by the way, I will throw this out there
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that if you are a candidate for office and you would like time, I'm
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And I will allow any candidate for office, local, national, whatever to
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that in mind. We do our best to try to get all the candidates
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on the one on the show, but you know, again, it's a
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first come, first serve basis, and what happens a lot of times I've
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been doing the show for three years, almost four years. What happened.
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There's a lot of candidates, So I want to go on the last week
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of the election, like or maybe when early voting starts and whatever. Well
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that's not always possible because we only have so many slots to go around.
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So so just get with me and I will do my best to get you
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on the show. Coming up on tomorrow's show, I don't have anybody that's
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going to be running for office. I do have a couple of senators that
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are already in office, one on the national level and one on the state
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level. State Senator and Senate Financi Chair Eric tar is going to be on
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the show tomorrow. Also, US Senator Joe Manchin is going to be on
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the show tomorrow. Joe, of course, is opting not to run for
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re election, saying also he's not going to do a third party candidacy.
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I'm not sure what Joe wants to talk about, but he reached out to
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me and said I'd like to come on the show, so he's always welcome
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to. Joe Manchin will be on the show tomorrow. Also, tomorrow is
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opening day of the Major League Baseball season, and it's something as a baseball
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fan that I look forward to every year. So the Cincinnati Reds can yet
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again disappoint me, but maybe this is the year we'll see. So what
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I'm I'm going to do tomorrow is I'm going to have There's two guys in
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this building, actually three that are probably bigger Reds fans than I am.
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One of them is Brian Bradley, who we call Wolfe around here. But
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I have the other two on the show tomorrow Jeff Jenkins, our news director
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for Metro News, and Neal Cooper, the host of Hotline Along the Day
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weekly in the afternoon. Both those guys hardcore Reds fans. So tomorrow's opening
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Day with the parade and everything that goes along with it in Cincinnati, So
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studio this morning, So I'm gonna knock out a couple of things real quick.
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Rick's going to go on a little early. He didn't know that you
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were going to go on early, but you are going to go on a
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little bit early. So just hanging out with me just one second. And
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while I do, I want to get into this. I was looking at
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are you a big sportsman? On and offends? Okay? I was looking
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at this this morning, and I think Hoppy may have touched on a little
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bit yesterday. This Iowa and WVU women's basketball game and CUAA tournament Monday night
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that at average four point nine million viewers on ESPN, the most watched women's
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ncuble A tournament game ever outside the final four. Right, I mean,
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that's that is absolutely amazing. I was getting text about it at like eleven
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thirty pm. Yeah, I actually I actually watched the game. I've started
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watching it in the second quarter. I was away doing some other stuff,
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but when I got home I watched the second half, well most of the
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second quarter and all the second half. It was a good game. West
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Virginia. I think put up a gallant effort. There's a lot of people
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and I heard Hoppy talking about this year day upset about Caitlin Clark, who's
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the phenom for Iowa, that her attitude on the court left a lot to
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be desired. At one point, she was seen mouthing the words shut the
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f up. Don't know if that was to WU fans and there were a
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lot of them there in Iowa or to the opposing team or whatever, but
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she was seen do it. You know, I will say this. I
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want to ask you to comment on this, but I will say this about
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that and hear me out. Would there be as much controversy if she were
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a guy. Well, I'll speak as a parent because I both my boys
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played football and my oldest plays baseball too, and sportsmanship is a huge deal,
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right it is, And that's something that I make sure to convey to
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him off the field, and I know his coaches do, and that should
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be taught really early. Anger gets the best of all of us, and
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we're all human. But I think that that's something to keep in mind.
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And I can't I'm not going to comment whether or not she was taught that
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I'll just say it's important. It is very important. And but my point
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is is I think that and again, you know I have not followed her
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career throughout the I know that she is the hottest thing going in sports in
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general right now. Forget about the gender. I mean, she's not sure
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on sports. I will say though, that if Michael Jordan would have done
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that back in the day, it would have probably have been seen as he's
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just tenacious, which he's fighting. How many times have we watched how many
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times we watched sports on TV and seen and seeing guy's mouth not the most
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appropriate things, but we know what they're saying. That's to me. I
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don't even look what Travis Kelsey did in the Super Bowl, right he pushed
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an elderly guy. Uh. I thought he should have been suspended for that
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right here. I don't care who he's dating. I thought, exactly right,
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he should have been suspended for that. They don't put your hands on
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a coach and I and I will also say it would have been a I
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hate to play wood. It could have should have That would have been Antonio
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Bryant or Antonio out there that pushed the coach. She had been a different
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narreat and if we're talking about perception of the public and the media, I
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mean, I would agree it does seem a little upsided. But you know,
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what do you do? What do you do? All right? So
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tay what we're going to say, what we are going to do. And
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you man? I'm doing well. How you doing? I'm doing fine.
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I sent you a text and said a little bit nervous about my first guest
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not showing and said will you come in? And you and I have talked
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sports, so there you go. No, it worked out. Sportball,
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yeah, sports, we talked to sports ball. Yeah. So here here
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on behalf of Charleston Urban Works and we're working on a survey of some kind.
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Talk about the survey. Yeah, we've we've been working on this for
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a little bit now. We got a grant a while back to hire a
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consultant to help us form and shape the survey. We initially wanted to do
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this actually before the pandemic, and then, of course, as we all
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know, as we all did, we had to change every all of our
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strategies and everything when the pandemic hit and had to really just focus on our
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existing businesses the best we knew how. And we're finally at that place.
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Especially, i've been on to talk about our restructuring, our rebranding. You
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know, we've we've we've changed the name of our organization and restructured and opened
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up more opportunities for more folks to get involved than even before. And this
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we're we're viewing this small Business Survey UH project as sort of a foundational aspect
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of the work that we're going to be doing over the next three years.
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And so this is actually the first time publicly we've talked about it. We
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feel like we're ready to go ahead and start distributing it. We'll be we'll
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be starting that process here over the next couple of weeks. We're going to
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be focusing on our focus districts at the East End and the West side of
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Charleston. And this is really something we've never done before. The questions that
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are in this survey. Of course, it's all confidential when we when we
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collect it from the business owners, it will stay you know, with us.
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It will be only used for aggregate reporting purposes. But we're really trying
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to dig deep and find out the state of the union, if you will,
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of our small business community, but then also the needs. What are
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their needs because we can't do our work as an organization unless we have that
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really important information gathered from the folks that are living at every single day.
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So how will you go back getting this information to the businesses. Well,
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you know, we have really strong partnerships. We have several strong partnerships,
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one of which is the City of Charleston. We've been working with their small
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Business Liaison working on strategies there. Audrey Cohn, she's absolutely incredible. If
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you haven't met her yet, I highly recommend it. She's doing great work
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for the City of Charleston and she and I've been kind of talking about how
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we can work together and you know, sharing strategies on how to get that
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out. We're going to be using our usual methods of social media, but
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this time we're actually going to be going, frankly, door to door.
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Part of what I'm going to be doing is taking my laptop into businesses scheduling
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time. It takes about I will say, about ten minutes to do the
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survey, and I'm going to actually be sit with them and help them fill
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it out. You know, it's a three page survey. It's actually it'
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available online, not just in PDF form but also online, and we'll be
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able to collect that data. So we're asking questions, you know, how
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does your business look now versus you know, four years ago, both from
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a general revenue standpoint, how many part time full time employees do you currently
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have? You know? And then we have this whole section about, you
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know, rank your needs and so that's really kind of separated into five main
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sections. So if you're looking at capital improvement projects, like from your perspective,
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what would you like to see out your front door? Right, So
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that's Gateway welcoming installation recycling receptacles, which we already have. We already did
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that project, but wayfinding signage, more public art, which we've done several
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of those installations over the years. Then as far as public safety and hospitality
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is concerned, do you want to see more presence of maybe public safety officers
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eventually in your in your neighborhood, visitor assistance information lighting? You know that
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we're working on a huge lighting project right now. Marketing and advertising. Do
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you what type of advertising and marketing do you want to see just for your
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business but for the district that your business is in? Uh, promotional materials,
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holiday decorations. As far as maintenance goes, do you want to see
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more street and sidewalk cleaning? Which I know our city, our city does
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a great job of keeping our sidewalks, cleaning our districts. But is there
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anything else that you could see there as a need? Graffiti removal? Our
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city again does great work of identifying those needs. But you know, is
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that something that particularly your business is looking at landscaping? Uh? And then
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of course you know, uh looking at what what what types of services do
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they want to see around them? A lot of times when you have a
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restaurant in the small business community of a restaurant, they want to see some
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more retail around them, because it's going to bring people in to shop.
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But then they're going to say, hey, I'm want to go get lunch
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next door, right, So that we wanted we want to kind of get
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there, get a feel from them as to what they want to see more
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of around them, because that's going to help us better identify recruiting needs.
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So I mean, this is it's very comprehensive, and then we give them
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a chance at the end to consider what are the what do they feel the
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three strongest assets are in their particular district of changes they'd like to see,
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and then other types of improvements that maybe weren't addressed in the survey. So,
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you know, we foresee this being about a two to three month process
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to collect this data. We're going to be asking, you know, some
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volunteers in our organization to help with this. I as a staff person who's
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like I said, I'm going to be going around collecting that information, and
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we're really this is something we've never really done at this level before. So
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this again we see this as a foundational aspect of the work we're going to
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be doing over the next three years. We're Cavana from Charleston Urban Works is
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here. How many businesses are we talking about? Approximately, give me a
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ballpark figure. Well, Dave, I can tell you just in the gateway
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area of the West Side, which is what everyone calls the LX City District,
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there are over I think eighty businesses there. You would never guess that,
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but in that square area you're looking at over eighty businesses just right there.
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And that's just a few blocks. So we're looking at probably over two
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hundred businesses total that we want to reach out to walk in instead of the
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west Side. That's right. And of course, like I said, we'll
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be doing some online distribution as well. And we know this is going to
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take a little time, and you know, this may spark other partnerships with
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other districts. We don't know yet, but we want to do our part
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to make sure that we are considering the full needs of the small business community
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in a way that maybe hasn't been done before. I'm interested to see what
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the answers are going to be when you ask these businesses, Rick, how
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is your business changed in four years? Because I mean us think about this,
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You and I think about where we were this time four years ago.
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I hadn't started doing this show yet, but March of twenty twenty was when
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the whole world came to an end, effectively shut down everything. We will
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be literally rick decades recovering from the damage that was done from this. I'm
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talking about the health damage. I'm talking about just the economics, these businesses
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trying to get back on their feet again. And then I just think it's
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a There was probably more change is to the world of business in that four
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years, and probably the previous maybe decade or two. I mean probably the
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advent of computers and smartphones was probably the last biggest change. But when you
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think about that, about we went from these businesses, many of them having
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completely shut down and let go of staff, and then okay, well we
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can do for a restaurant or maybe maybe other businesses as well. We can
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do curbside pickup, we can we can allow certain you know, certain numbers.
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We have this section, we have this part sectioned off. We're only
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having these people here. We're changing, you know, we're using plastic forks
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or what we did before. Whatever. It's amazing when you think about it
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affected every industry differently. Right, So we of course office buildings. We've
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seen so many I don't want to get into that a little bit later on,
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but go ahead, Well, we've seen so many of them just permanently
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go either remote or just downsize how much space they need, right because maybe
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half their staff they have taken remote. Whatever the case, we've seen that
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happen. We saw those effects happen a little later here in Charleston that I
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think you might have read about nationally. I think COVID, as far as
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COVID is concerned, that hit nationally almost right when the in the middle of
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the pandemic. We saw some of those effects maybe a year, year and
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a half after. I don't I don't think we can blame it fully on
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COVID. I think that some of the business closures we've seen have just been
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from personal decisions those business owners have made, and that's up to them.
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That's their business. But so that's one that's one example of industry, you
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know, But the restaurant industry. The conversations I was having with restaurant tours
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at the time, whenever it was all curbside pick up, you got to
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remember those businesses, especially the ones who who who serve alcohol, who have
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you know, especially the beer industry, that's where they were making their money.
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We know someone's coming in for curbs I pick up and they can't physically
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be inside. They're not That restaurant is not making the money off of the
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beer sales at the bar, or at the or at a table for that
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matter. They're just they're just making money off of those those pickup orders.
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So I mean that that was a huge cut in revenue for them at the
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time. And of course that's you we're talking a couple of years ago.
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Things have bounced back, but you know, most of what we've experienced in
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our districts for the most part, and again I don't want to speak too
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broadly, but what we've experienced is just the personal decisions of the business owner
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to move out of state go on to their next venture. It really in
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a lot of cases, we didn't see folks say there's just not no foot
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traffic down here, so we can't keep our doors open. We didn't really
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see a whole lot of that. Because what we've learned is if you build
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it, they will come. If you put a desirable restaurant that has a
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good product in an empty space, it will gain traction. And it will
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become a successful business. We've send that happened time and time again. Talking
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go back to the survey a little bit later on, but I want to
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ask you about to a couple of other things. Rick, Now that we're
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into the warm weather months, how's the business climate looking in Charleston. I
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know your group, the Charles Number Works in the Downtown Charleston Association. You
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just had the Saint Patrick's pub crawl. That was fun. We got regatta.
22:25
Of course cover it up fhone, it's a dome is going to be
22:27
another big activities. Dirty Birds are going to be starting their season. I
22:30
had some money on from the Dirty Bird yesterday. How are we looking head
22:33
into spring? Well, I think you mentioned the Capitol Crawl and that I
22:37
think was an indicator of how things are going to be. With the weather
22:40
turning. We had over five hundred and fifty people will buy tickets to our
22:44
event. This is the first time. I can't want to talk about this,
22:47
first time we attempted partnering with another group to expand our existing event.
22:51
Right, so this was the first time we were attempt at the Capitol Crawl.
22:53
I can tell you I don't want to name businesses you know, you
22:57
know one on one, but I'll say we had a couple of businesses come
23:00
to us and say we had a record night that night. Literally some businesses
23:03
that have been opened for ten to fifteen years that participated had record nights that
23:07
night. So obviously the event itself was a success, but beyond that,
23:11
it shows the buying power of our consumers here in this region. We had
23:15
people come from not just conn All County, but surrounding counties, and I
23:18
actually talked to some folks who came from out of state. They were planning
23:22
on coming in anyway, and they saw this event online and they said,
23:26
we're going to try this out, and we got to show them the best
23:27
Charleston had to offer. That night, you know, the city was definitely
23:30
alive, and that was really if you go back and you think about that,
23:33
that was an all day thing. But I mean you had that event
23:36
at night, but earlier in the day, you know, we had I
23:37
was over at the Capitol Market over there for the Green Chili shootout. I
23:41
think I saw you a couple of times over there as well. So I
23:45
mean there was a it was a busy day of Charleston that day, huge
23:48
day, and you know behind all that, I mean we're seeing we're seeing
23:52
people kind of embrace the city in a way. The next morning. I
23:57
went out for brunch the next morning and that was actually Saint Patrick's Day.
24:00
Every single place downtown was packed. I mean it was. It was so
24:03
good to see it on a Sunday morning to afternoon. And of course PODA
24:07
I think has helped that as well. People you know, people can walk
24:10
around with their cups from from business to business and and you know be out
24:14
on the street and that and that designated district. I think that's helped a
24:17
lot too. Hats off to the city for pushing that and forgetting that passed.
24:22
You know, we're just seeing, we're seeing sort of a new version,
24:26
if you will, of our city. That's just really promising, really
24:29
exciting, and I think the event that we held last Saturday showed that there
24:33
is a huge demand for folks of all ages. We saw every age you
24:37
can think of from twenty one and up participating in this and it's it was
24:41
great. It was really great. Well, that was one of the great
24:42
things about the that's the first time I had been to the Green Chili shoot
24:45
out over Capital Market with Evan and the folks over there, and of course
24:48
that was that there was a fundraising aspect of that with the Parkinson's Association,
24:52
George Manahan's group and uh and to see you know, not only was it
24:56
about the the chili and everything that goes along with it, but you had
25:00
the wrestling show and the whole deal over there. You had the DJ spending
25:03
music over there, so just it it was like I said, it was
25:07
just a great day in Charleston. It really was, I'll say really quickly.
25:10
And anecdote was having a conversation with a friend last weekend about perception of
25:14
the city you grew up in versus cities you visit. And I always do
25:17
my best when I travel to take in as much as I can, but
25:21
I also when I'm here try my hardest to view through the eyes of a
25:23
visitor, because, as you know, growing up here, you and I
25:26
both grew up in this region. You get used to things, and sometimes
25:30
it may feel stagnant just because you grew up here. It's just a natural
25:33
thing you may feel. But I can tell you people that are coming in
25:36
from out of town to here, they see a city that's alive, and
25:40
they see a region that's alive. There's not just here in Charlesto. This
25:42
is going on in the entire valley, and we sometimes lose sight of that,
25:48
as as people who've grew up grown up here, and I think it's
25:51
really important to take a step back and look, there's something for someone to
25:53
do every single weekend. And I can tell you with June coming up,
25:56
you mentioned fun with the dome. The whole month of June there, there
26:00
are, there's this. The entire region is going to be alive. You
26:03
have the first whole week, you have Pride Week, next is Foam at
26:06
the Dome, our event on June the eighth, Then you have Festival right
26:08
after that for the next two weeks after that, and then the Regatta follows
26:11
that. So you're talking from June to the beginning of July that entire every
26:15
community around here has got something going on. That's right. South Charleston has
26:19
their summer festival. I'm a little parcel to where I live in Putnam County,
26:23
we got the West Virginia Food Truck Festival that's kep up at the month
26:26
of April. That's an entire day where the food trucks and music done such
26:30
a good job at that. Yeah and uh and and so you got that
26:33
going on. As I said, Saint Albans is killing access and the whole
26:37
deal on St. Albans, and they're they're adding more and more. I
26:40
mean, they did their own Sat Patrick. I think we talked about that,
26:41
and hats off to them. I mean they've really stu They've done that
26:45
for a couple of years I think there, but they really stepped it up
26:47
this year. Oh yeah, and just the aesthetics of Main Street in sant
26:49
Albans. So look at the look at how much that's changed and the businesses
26:52
that have opened there. I mean, that's a that is a destination now.
26:55
Oh yeah. So this isn't just certainly wonderful things happening here in the
26:57
in the core right and the cap little city in downtown. But there's something
27:02
really for everyone all agents. I'm a big believer, Rick, and I
27:03
don't know how you feel about it. I'm a big believer in this whole
27:06
Advantage Valley thing. Oh yeah, what's good and especially now that we've got
27:10
everything going on out at Shawnee Park where you're bringing in thousands of people,
27:14
that what's good for what's going on in Dunbar is also going to help out
27:18
downtown Charleston, and it's going to help out Taye Valley. It's at Barbersville.
27:22
I mean, you know, just it's amazing all these all these great
27:26
things are going on. And I think it's a really good point what you
27:29
said as somebody who grew up in the region. I grew up in southern
27:32
West Virginia. When I first heard them talking about the hat fil McCoy Trail
27:36
in the nineties. I thought, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
27:37
Who was going to come to southern West Virginia to ride four wheelers in
27:41
the mountains one of the neighborhood of seventy different countries, oh have come down
27:47
there to ride those trails, and they're still doing and it's saved towns like
27:51
some of these smaller areas like Gilbert Domingo County. I mean, mate,
27:53
want it's all. And I say that to say that sometimes, as you
27:59
say to your point, we have a tendency to just kind of want to
28:03
poopoo these ideas and say, oh, that's stupid. No, but well,
28:07
we don't view ourselves like other people view us. Well, go to
28:10
another city and talk to a local. Go to Cincinnati, Ohio, to
28:12
go to Cleveland, go to Charlotte wherever. People who grew up there,
28:17
they're going to sort of feel the same way about where they grew up.
28:18
They're going to say, well, because they're used to it, they're gonna
28:21
say, well, you know, I guess it's fine, and here we
28:22
are visitors like this is awesome. It's just I think it's just part of
28:26
perception. I think it's really important for us as people who live in this
28:29
region cheerleaders, if you will, to keep that in mind. No matter
28:33
who we're talking to, we are sort of representing that area. So that's
28:37
something really to keep in mind. The new ror of Gorge is another good
28:40
example, right. I mean, people travel from all around the world to
28:42
go whitewater rafting to do their outdoor activities, and they're going to probably come
28:47
here at one point. They're going to go to live in the levee and
28:48
they're going to wake up that next morning and drive a Fayetteville an hour away
28:52
and they're going to go rafting all day. They're going to spend money in
28:53
downtown Fayetteville. They may come back to Charleston. I mean, there's a
28:57
lot to really consider, and we have the offerings I think to make sure
29:02
that everyone stays entertained, stays fed. It's a really great time to be
29:06
here. Yeah, I would agree with that. And I was actually reading
29:08
something rick online not long ago, and it was a national article and I
29:12
was reading the social media version of it, and they were talking about the
29:15
hip places to go in West Virginia made the list, and of course this
29:18
is a nationwide thing. So he had as people saying, oh, it's
29:22
all cousins married to each other, which is only partially true. We mostly
29:26
wear shoes and everything here. But the amount of people that make comments Rick
29:30
about saying, I never thought much about West Virginia and then I visited and
29:36
I fell in love with it. And there was one particular comment from a
29:40
lady from California that somehow her family, her husband's family had relatives in West
29:47
Virginia, and she ended up coming to visit these like second or third cousins.
29:49
They ended up moving here, and she and her husband both worked remotely,
29:53
so they had that ability, you know, to do that. And
29:57
they said, we absolutely love here. We love the outdoors and things that
30:00
you know, again, you and I may take for granted. I had
30:03
a neighbor that exact same story from California moved here sight unseen, and they
30:07
have taken up every single thing that Charleston has to offer and they love it,
30:11
you know, and it's so great to see through those eyes. That's
30:12
such a good point. You know. It's again, I'll just say it's
30:18
if you haven't, for any listeners out there, if you haven't taken the
30:21
opportunity to go to the CVB website check out the all the events happening coming
30:25
up in the next couple of months. All of our events are on there,
30:27
everybody else's event on there. If you haven't taken that time, please
30:30
do. There's something really for everybody. All Right. You have a couple
30:33
of texts here for you. Okay, all right. One text says it'd
30:37
be impressive if upper West Washington Street got gentrified like Elk City. Oh jeez,
30:42
that word. Let's talk about that word for a second. I'm happy
30:45
to address that gentrification in its true form as we see in larger cities.
30:51
I've studied this for years. New Orleans, New York City. If we're
30:55
talking about like areas like Queen's and Brooklyn certainly has been gentrified. That usually
31:00
means that full neighborhoods have been completely for lack of a better way to put
31:06
it, cleared out and made way for huge corporations to come in and open
31:10
huge banks, and open huge chain restaurants and stores, and it prices people
31:15
out that maybe twenty fifteen years ago could afford it and can't now. That's
31:18
not what has happened in If we're talking about the Oax City district. That
31:22
is not what's happened there. What's happened in the Oax City District is you've
31:25
seen people tie up their bootstraps, property owners, a couple in particular,
31:33
and taking their own money mixed with you know, going after grants, working
31:38
non stop to go after grant funding, doing everything they can to restore these
31:42
buildings to bring them back to their former glory, and then recruit almost yes
31:48
in every case, locally owned businesses to occupy those those spaces, and then
31:55
residents do then occupy the spaces on the second and third floors. That's not
31:59
gentrification. That is just revitalization of an area that I grew up here,
32:02
right, I grew up literally five minutes from Washington Street West. I remember
32:06
driving through Washington Street West in the nineties, in the early two thousands,
32:09
and it wasn't it wasn't ideal. We're now seeing that change, and that
32:14
is a good thing. Gentrification is not necessary. It's never a good thing
32:17
when you're pricing people out of the neighborhoods they live in. So as far
32:21
as Lower Upper I guess the Far West, I think that's what they're talking
32:23
about. As far as that goes, we're seeing a little bit more investment
32:28
happening there. We've seen a couple buildings come down unfortunately, that's one of
32:31
the reasons for that. We're doing the survey so we can find out the
32:35
needs of the folks down there as well, and we can better serve them
32:37
and we'll see what happens with that. We want to hear from them directly,
32:42
so I think that those results will yield positive results and we'll be able
32:46
to figure out what the needs are there more. But as far as gentrification
32:50
goes, that is not what's happened. All right, let me get just
32:52
sex and we'll let you go. So is how does Charleston move past being
32:55
a city a person could experience in less than five hours? Things to do
32:59
seem to involve a lot of time and the car traveling to different places.
33:04
Are they asking you can experience? Are they saying that you can experience everything
33:07
within five hours? I think that's what the way I'm reading this here.
33:09
How do you move past being a city a person can experience in less than
33:14
five hours? Okay, things, I guess what they're saying is is that
33:20
if you want to, if you come downtown for example. And I'm not
33:22
trying to put words in this texture's mouth or put characters. I guess you
33:27
would say, if if a person comes to one of these events downtown Foaming
33:31
Dome or the pub crawls or whatever, if they're if they're going to truly
33:35
experience that, they're gonna have to get in a car and then and turn
33:37
drive somewhere else. So I guess what there's so, But that's that's more
33:39
of an I don't know how you get by that. Yeah, I mean,
33:43
I think that's a perception thing. I think to a degree, I
33:45
think that the city is actually very walkable. I think that the City of
33:47
Charleston has done a great job of making sure our crosswalks are properly marked.
33:52
If you if you really experience as a pedestrian the city, you can really
33:55
walk anywhere. I think again, that is something that we that grown up
34:00
here. We drove everywhere. We want to park right in front of the
34:02
front door of the place whe're going and then get back in our car and
34:05
go to the next place. That is that that's really I think a West
34:07
Virginia mentality. And I'm not speaking negatively about that. That's just how I
34:10
think we've all grown up and I think in our I know our organization is
34:15
trying to do better at promoting the walkability of the entire city. One thing
34:21
that's really interesting, I'll just go ahead and bring this up. You know,
34:22
with our lighting project, we've done a lot of research and studies on
34:25
Washington Street excuse me, yeah, Washington Street and that main quarter there that
34:29
crosses Pennsylvania Avenue, both both parts north and south right, that is not
34:34
the most pedestrian friendly area to walk from the bridge downtown into the Olk City
34:38
district of the west Side. We know that the city has done the best
34:42
job they possibly can of having the crosswalks, you know, the crosswalks set
34:50
to a place to where pedestrians have enough time to get across the street.
34:53
But we understand it's something most welcoming because traffic is coming at a very fast
34:57
pace. It can be a little intimidating. So that's something we're looking at.
35:00
But there may not be a whole lot we can do. That is
35:01
a that is a state road, and that's that's a little bit more,
35:06
a little more challenging. But the city is very walkable and you can you
35:10
can walk from place to place, I think effectively if you really want to.
35:15
All right, Rick, as always pleasure to have you on a show,
35:16
give us the info of the contact information, website, so on and
35:20
so forth for Charleston Urban Works shortens so we're still working on the website.
35:22
Everything can be available on Facebook at the Charleston Urban Works Facebook page. We
35:27
will be releasing that survey publicly here in the next week or two and we'll
35:30
be first reaching out to the businesses you know, one on one because there
35:35
are target audience, but we'll be making that available of publicly as well,
35:38
so we'll we'll have you back on the talk about it. Then. That's
35:40
right, Thanks so much, nay Rick Cavitor from Charleston Urban Works. It's
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Dave. What was the final consensus on the officiating of the WVU Iowa game.
38:55
Well, as I said, I watched most of the game. There's
39:00
seem to definitely be a disparity and the number of files that were called against
39:06
West Virginia as opposed to Iowa. Was there some great conspiracy? You know,
39:10
I don't know. I tend not to be in all forms of my
39:14
life a conspiracy theorists. But yeah, it did seem a little bit lobsided,
39:20
as everyone has. Everyone has pointed out Texas. You keep saying it'll
39:24
be decades until businesses recover from the pandemic. Share the data on which you
39:30
rely. I don't think any exists to support your position. Challenge accepted,
39:36
Challenge accepted. Texture, See what I can come up with. Basically,
39:38
it's antidotal one talking to business owners. That's basically it. But see if
39:42
I can get something a little bit more concrete. Very very good point by
39:45
a texture TEXTA says you can't even go through the State Museum in five hours
39:47
if you study all the exhibits, it says a texture texture. This was
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a follow up from the text that said, how do we move past Charles
39:55
to be in the city that you can experience in less than five hours?
39:58
Follow up text says, I meant like going in different towns. If you
40:00
want to visit Charleston, I want to stay there and do things not drive
40:04
to Fayetteville for something else to do, says a Texter. Coming up on
40:07
tomorrow's show, Senator Eric Tarr is going to be here. It's also opening
40:10
day for the rad Jeff Jenkins Dale Cooper will join me to talk about that,
40:14
plus Renee Lester. There's a program going on at West Virginia State University
40:19
that is designed to get clothing items for those that are about to enter the
40:23
workforce of all ages. I mean, you have a recent graduate and they
40:28
want to go on a job interview people actually and this is kin to kind
40:30
of bring me to my next point. There are still people that actually do
40:34
job. But even if it's on camera on zoom, especially to be dressed
40:37
up. Sometimes you're a college student. Again, at any age, it's
40:39
difficult to get to write clothing. Well, they're trying to fix that at
40:43
West Virginia State. We'll talk to Renee Lester about that. Plus Senator Joe
40:46
Manchin will be on tomorrow's show as well. Hobby coming up at Talk Lit
40:50
with talk Line at ten oh six. Senator Shelley more Capito is on the
40:52
show today. Jeff Jenkins will discuss what again I'm about to get into here
40:57
and just to bet that is the Justice Administration ordering some workers who have been
41:00
working remotely to come back to the office. Good luck with that. Brad
41:07
mclhenny is going to stop by to get into a bunch of bills at The
41:08
governor has yet to sign or veto, including the vaccine veto bill, although
41:13
I am hearing some chatter that he is going to probably veto the vaccine bill.
41:20
That's what I'm hearing. Hopey, you'll have more of that coming up
41:22
at ten oh six. Also, WVU women's basketball coach Mark Kellogg's on the
41:29
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and I know Brad and Hopey are going to get into it. Actually,
41:57
I think it's Jeff and Hopy are going to get into it next hour.
42:00
Leaves storywe Metro News dot Com by the aforementioned mister Jenkins. The Justice
42:05
Administration has ordered any remaining state workers who have been working remotely since the pandemic
42:14
to get back to the office. Chief of Staff Brian Abraham, in an
42:17
interview with Metro News says there was a general return to work order issued in
42:22
twenty twenty one as the pandemic was winding down, but he says that he's
42:28
learned that not all state agencies have been following that order. Abraham basically saying
42:32
that even after the order, many department heads were still letting people work from
42:37
home or somewhere else remotely without the knowledge of the administration. Now, the
42:43
administration also learned that some agencies have been using the lure of allowing people to
42:47
work from home as for lack of a better term, bait, maybe playing
42:53
one agency against the other one. Now. During the interview, Chief of
42:57
Staff Abraham says that the the stration received complaints from agency say basically in some
43:02
cases workers were leaving one agency to go to work to another one just so
43:07
they could work from home. There are around forty thousand state workers, and
43:10
Brian Abraham said they really don't know how many of those workers have remained on
43:15
remote status since the pandemic, but did say that the administration has now made
43:21
it clear to all Cabinet secretaries that this new return to work order policy applies
43:27
to all workers, with the exception of those who were exempt and working from
43:31
home prior to the pandemic. Now, some state workers work a hybrid schedule
43:37
where they report in person maybe a couple of days a week. Now that
43:43
is going to be eliminated. According to Abraham, the whole working from home
43:45
thing, of course, is very problematic to businesses in general, and I
43:52
want to get into that a little bit later on in this whole mindset.
43:54
And my producer, Ryan Nicholson is a bit younger than I am. I'm
44:00
at fifty three. It's not exactly sure how old Ryan is, but I'll
44:04
say he's younger than I am. I'm twenty six, twenty six. I
44:07
have headphones older than you, man. So I'm going to ask Ryan because
44:09
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Bridge collapse has prompted discussions of cannon happen here. West Virginia's problem is that
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bridges are not maintained. Look at the Washington Street Bridge for example. Being
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a bridge engineer, there are several bridges that I didn't cross, says a
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TEXTA Texas says, we need to utilize the river more in the city of
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Charleston. That would bring in a lot of money. Texas News. There
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was no conspiracy around the WVU game, but the officials certainly had a strong
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bias in favor of Iowa. You should watch the video replays of the officials
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allowing Caitlin Clark to aggressively push WVU defenders away so she could take open shots.
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The officials simply allowed her to do it. It was pretty bad.
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Text says kudos to Governor Abraham for ordering these workers back to the office.
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Yes, Brian Abraham is actually the guy running the states day to day,
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says a Texter. Texas Governor Justice works from home. Is he being ordered
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back to work? Texas dude? Jim Justice has been doing remote press conferences
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for like four years and hasn't stated in the Governor's mansion for about seven and
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he has the audacity to end audacity, I should say to end remote work,
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says a Texter Texas. So everybody reports the work except the governor.
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I had a feeling that was going to be coming. So basically, you
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know, as part of this, Brian Abraham talked to me out the fact
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that a lot of workers complain about the price of gas or having to take
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care of a sick parent or whatever, which I thought was a good point.
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But if you are taking care of a sick parent, or you're a
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parent that's got four or five kids at home, how much work are you
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actually getting done? And how important is the ability to work for home to
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different people. I am a person because I'm old, that actually likes getting
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up and having a place to go. I did work at home for a
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time. Matter of fact, when I was a state employee, one part
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of the staff worked from home. But this is well before the pandemic.
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I don't really care for it myself. Ryan, a relatively young guy at
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the age of twenty six, I hear this a lot. Ryan, I
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say that with young people. I hear people say with young people they want
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the ability to work remotely. Is that really a thing, Yes, of
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course it is. I think there's a multitude of reasons. Every person's situation
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is unique, but I think generally commuting to work is just another expense.
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Like it. Think about it this way. If you have a car and
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you drive to work, not only do you have to pay for guests,
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but you also have to pay for maintenance on your car, and that just
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adds another like siphon away from your paycheck. And if you stay at home,
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hey you have some more income and you also get to stay in a
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stress free environment. So what depends on your home? Yeah, it does
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depend on your home. But I think generally the at least the gen Z
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attitude towards office environments, it's similar to like the movie office space. You
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know, yes, it's a movie stifling environment, no creativity, all humanity
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is stripped and you just become another guy pecking away at a tea at a
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keyboard. Now you're not talking about here, of course, Oh no,
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no other places, the places, But you know, it is interesting that
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there's a couple of different factors here. There are studies, and you can
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track anything that anybody does. If they're working remotely, you can see when
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they're online and so on and so forth. One agency that I am familiar
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with fielded a lot of phone calls and during the pandemic, they could send
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somebody home with a laptop and they could sit there with their head set on.
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And we found and when I was working there, that they actually took
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many of them, took more phone calls and got more work done at home
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than they did when they were in the office. And there's a variety of
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reasons for that. Maybe they weren't spending like we do thirty minutes, you
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know, standing around saying what are we ordering for lunch today? Or what
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did you watch on TV or something? Or what did you stream last night?
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So you know, I guess I get that. But if it's worked
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for so many years, for so many generations, why do we feel the
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need to change it. I think now it's because with the advent of remote
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working, the boundary between company time and break time is starting to blur.
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When you're at home, you can take a break whenever you want. It's
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not well, I mean, you can if you have a meeting, but
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I get what you're saying. To a certain extent, you can have a
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break wherever, whenever you want. It's not relegated to oh, I've only
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got one or two hours at noon for lunch and then I have to be
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back in the office. And also it encourages you to get more work done
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so you can get to that break time quicker and you have more time within
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that break time. It's just a matter of like efficiency towards the break time.
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You know, it's a very interesting and it has changed. And again
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this was starting to change a little bit before the pandemic, I think,
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because, as I said, there were state agencies that had people that were
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working from home, and a lot of times it was cost saving. It
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was actually better to have people working at home. And I was talking to
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a friend in the real estate business about this, and he said, I
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got office buildings that are setting blank because people want to work from home.
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And I'll close with this that in one particular company that I'm aware of,
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I was talking to somebody who I'm very close to. It happens to you
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know, live with me, not my cat. That one of the first
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things when they talk to people, when they when they're interviewing, they say,
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can I work from home? It's not how much do I make or
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whatever, it's can I work from home? It's just an interesting dynamic in
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the way that things have changed. All right, Ryan, I appreciate your
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twenty six year old perspective. Signed off. Old guy. Here, I'm
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on the front lawn and shaking my fist at people's what I do. All
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right, right, I appreciate it. Man coming up on the show tomorrow.
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As I said, Joe Manchin is here, Eric tar is here.
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We're talking about this program at West Virginia State and opening day for the Cincinnati
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Reds tomorrow. All right, I will see you then. Until then,
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have fun. I love somebody, and get back to work. Fight Mehsam
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