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Challenging Auto Clichés: Spotlight on Corvette Culture, Sports Car Joy, and Financial Reality · In Wheel Time Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another in wheel time podcast, a 30 minute mini version of the in wheel time car show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am Central.
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• 0:28
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• 0:40
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the the vests, yeah, but all the patches on there and they're little like wartime helmets.
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  Speaker 4: I was invested.
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you.
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  Speaker 4: there drinking something drinking Wish.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so here's what I thought we would do today.
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm, yeah, I prepared this just for this.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this off of the Corvette forum, of which Now, these are Corvette.
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: You saw something drink as I said early on, and kind of a preparatory mode that you can probably relate some of these things in a different way to cars that you like you Oldsmobile, jeffrey Cadillac, mars, studebaker.
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: Robert Hammer Mustangs.
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  Speaker 1: This is from the Corvette forum.
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  Speaker 1: The dictionary definition of a cliche is a phrase or opinion that is overused and Betrays a lack of original thought, kind of like this show In the Corvette world.
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: We have all heard many examples of these.
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: It of course extends beyond just Corvettes to car culture in general.
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: So the Corvette forum Thought that they needed the ten most annoying cliches that keep seeing and hearing over and over again on the Corvette forum.
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: You're on a campaign to eradicate these, but the forum needs your help.
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: Please help educate anyone you hear perpetuate these tired and overused sayings and beliefs.
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: Stop posting them on the Corvette forum.
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, number ten.
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: All right, corvette is a midlife crisis car.
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: Well, what was your midlife crisis?
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  Speaker 2: When did you buy your?
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: How old were you and you?
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: bought your Corvette, my first Corvette.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: I was 26, so that's a midlife.
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: Midlife is your way.
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  Speaker 2: More than 26, now how many?
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: times have you heard this phrase?
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  Speaker 1: There are plenty of people that buy Corvettes when they are younger and plenty who buy them when they're older.
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: The fact is, most people buy them because they actually like the Corvette has nothing to do with the stage of life they're in or the fact that they're going through some sort of crisis.
• 5:05
  Speaker 4: The folks that say this cliche are typically just jealous of the Corvette yeah, they buy into the younger ones was for a reason, you know they're young, and girl one yeah, and the older ones is.
• 5:16
  Speaker 4: Now you have the means to buy it.
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I haven't got old enough thing, because it's still came forward number nine, real Enthusiasts drive only manual transmissions.
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: And what's your car down?
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: It's a manual transmission there you go proof the next one I buy if I'm still alive.
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: To buy one is not going to be a manual transmission.
• 5:34
  Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of newer manuals coming out and women drivers on.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: Sure, we all love manual transmission.
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: It does offer more involvement with the car and enhances the driving experience for most.
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: But some folks take the dedication to a manual transmission a little too far.
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: 30 years ago, automatic transmission cars were not just less involving, they were slower, more expensive and less fuel efficient as well.
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: That is typically no longer the case, especially with the new dual clutch transmissions.
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: You can be a real car enthusiast and drive an automatic transmission car.
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: Amen, today, not all cars, but the new Corvette in particular and the C7 for most of its Appearance with the DSG Number eight.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: Every sports car must be a track weapon.
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: No.
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with that.
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: Some people get obsessed over Nurburgring lap times and how much downforce the rear wing can generate, and so on.
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: While those stats may make for interesting conversations with your buddies in the bar, in the real world that is all basically meaningless.
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: A sports car is not necessarily better just because it sets a faster lap time.
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: The vast majority of drivers will never take their car on a track anyway, and those that do will not be able to match the lap times of the professional drivers.
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: On top of that, cars with the hottest or best lap times are typically less enjoyable on the road, which is where the car will spend most of its time.
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: Amen.
• 7:13
  Speaker 4: It's different suspensions, all that.
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  Speaker 2: And the rear wing means nothing.
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: Think about how many big rear wings are on a 2015 Honda Civic.
• 7:22
  Speaker 4: They're easy to put.
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  Speaker 4: It's 30 miles an hour.
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: Number seven a Corvette owner cannot afford a Porsche.
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  Speaker 4: Don't want to.
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  Speaker 4: That's where the uppity comes in.
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: You only bought a Corvette because you can't afford a Porsche.
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: But of all of the cliches on this list, this one may be the dumbest.
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: First of all, who cares about what you can or can't afford?
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: Do people say that that is a nice 4,000 square foot house you bought?
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: You only bought it because you can't afford a 5,000 foot house.
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: And is the saying can only afford a six figure Corvette supposed to be some sort of an insult?
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: There are plenty of Corvette owners can afford to buy whatever they want, but they choose the Corvette because that is what they like.
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: This is another cliche that is typically said by jealous haters driving around in a clapped out Civic Subaru outback champagne color.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like having three wives instead of four.
• 8:23
  Speaker 4: You know what's on the next list?
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: We wanted to slap him in the last segment.
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: Now it's up to you.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: Would you go ahead and slap him?
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: He's not going to do any good.
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: Mars shared that thought with me.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: I just shut up.
• 8:34
  Speaker 4: Wow, are you eating chocolate down there?
• 8:38
  Speaker 4: He's all wound up.
• 8:39
  Speaker 4: He's got the chocolate in front of him.
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, oh God.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, here is number six, calling the Corvette the plant plastic.
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: Fantastic, I've heard that that's so stupid.
• 8:52
  Speaker 4: Really.
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: It just makes our skin crawl.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, the Corvette came out in 53 with a fiberglass body and some began to call the Corvette the plastic fantastic because of it.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: And still today there are Corvette shows that are called the plastic fantastic show, part of the Corvette lexicon, but it has also become so overused that it is time to retire the phrase for good.
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: Plastic fantastic might be a fine phrase to use when referring to a children's toy, but you're really going to call a C eight, zero, six, a plastic fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: That is demeaning to the car.
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  Speaker 1: Please stop using it.
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  Speaker 2: But it is a fantastic car.
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  Speaker 3: I just never heard that.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, stop using fiberglass.
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: Decades ago, they're basically plastic to what they are, and there's so many plastic cars?
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, on every car made these days.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: How do you not call it plastic?
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: You bought a sports car just to show off.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: This is number five.
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: Believe it or not, most people buy sports cars because they like sports cars.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with showing off.
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: Is there someone out there that maybe bought one to strut around town and feel like a big deal?
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: Sure, most folks are far and far between.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's a few and far between.
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: Most folks buy the car because they like it and for the few that bought it to show off, you got bad news.
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: Most people really don't give a crap about your car.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: They are not impressed.
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like there's a reason to own a Bentley convertible other than.
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: I believe, doesn't Sheila own one of those?
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: That wasn't my purpose of saying.
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  Speaker 1: But then why did you say it?
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: Because you know that she's listening, because I was thinking how you insulted her.
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: Sorry for what.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: She also raises an over more power is always better is.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with horsepower?
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, but this is another stat that people tend to spend too much effort obsessing over.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: Is the new ZR01 going to make 800 800 horsepower and 900 1000.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: Honestly, does it really matter?
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: The car is going to be fast.
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: We know that.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: In fact, it will probably be too fast to really be able to enjoy on the street.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, once a sports car is making about 500 horsepower, everything else over that tends to be overkill for street driving.
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: I agree with that.
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really pardon me, but it'll use a cliche to explain this.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: It's more fun to drive a slow car than a fast car.
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: Slow, Having 800 horsepower on the street doesn't do you much good when you're stuck behind a minivan going 30.
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: No, but when you come off the red light and the tires are spinning and leaving puss of smoke behind it and you shift into second gear, it will continue to leave smoke out.
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: It generates smoke.
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: yeah, there's nothing I could say after that.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say you know, mars, we'll go with that okay.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: The on ramp acceleration yeah the newest model is always the worst than the older model.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: This is number three.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: Take a sports car that has been around for several generations, like the Corvette, porsche 911, mazda Miata and so on.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: There's always a group of folks that will hate on the newest generation.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: Every single time they will cry that the older would look better, the new one is too heavy, the new one has too much technology and it is too big, and so on and so on, and it is true that in some cases these are valid complaints, but overall, the new car is almost always better than the car it replaced.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: Give the new cars a chance.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: They might be different, but they might also be better if you judge them appropriately.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: Especially in the instance of the Corvette, because they do listen to the consumer and they try and adapt that next generation vehicle to meet what the consumer is demanding on it.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: And you think that, like, for instance, the new car show that comes to Houston in January that we've been fortunate enough to be invited to over and over again, that if you don't think that there are people there that are listening to what you say about their cars, you are wrong, because there are factory representatives there.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: They may look like product specialists or whatever you wanna call them.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Put a name on them.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: But that's not their only job.
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: They have to write a report.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: What did you hear about the Jeep Cherokee this time?
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: And for every car show that they go to, they have to type.
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: I talked to this many people.
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: This is what I told them.
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: This is what they told me.
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I remember when we went to the Ram event up in Dallas.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: You know that was the purpose of the Ram event was to listen to what the consumer was saying To gather intel on the vehicle?
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they had their customers there, because they were all driving Ram trucks.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: That was a really good idea to sit there and get them all in one place and hear what they had to say.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because you know Mars and I get to test drive, if you wanna call it that, new cars, a different new car every week.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: And, matter of fact, I was one week late sending in my Dodge Hornet review to the people that handle all that and they hey listen, the Stellantis is really wanting your review.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: Would you please send it?
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Two weeks was the time it took for me to send it, so they want to know how I review the car.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: Same for you.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: All of us.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: Acapulco gold.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: So that's it.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Anyway, number two, back to what we were talking about.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: Zero to 60 times means everything.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: A Tesla Model S Plaid can go from zero to 60 in about two seconds flat.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: So therefore it is the greatest sports car in the world, right?
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: No, of course not.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: Some folks just live and die by published zero to 60 times.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Is the e-ray better than the Z06?
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Because it hits zero to 61 tenth of a second faster.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: The average human would not even be able to perceive the difference.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: On top of that, how many zero to 60 runs do you do when you go out of the driveway every day?
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Mars.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: Well point to you.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting metric but largely academic.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: A sports car is about feel and emotion, handling and sound.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: A great sports car is not just about zero to 60 times.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because there is no sound to an electric car.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Well, not only that, but I mean I agree with that, because I don't really look at zero to 60.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: I look at how long it takes to get across the intersection and what kind of tire noise and smoke you can get out of.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: And you know that I have complained.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: I have complained on cars that don't cut the mustard getting across the intersection.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have the lag and all the other stuff and these are brand new cars that are delivered to the customer that I was here.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Gear confusion, I almost did a segment on the e-ray.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: E-ray the electric portion of that, because it's a gas and electric hybrid.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: The front wheel drive is the electric part of it, which I did not know.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Ah well, wait till it gets my car review, I'll be able to talk about that.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Mikiya, kona Mikiya.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Kona Number one here it is Not driving the car to keep miles down the road.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Guilty Tidah, but not really.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think you do that.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I just think you don't drive the car because you don't have.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I don't need to, yeah, well, because you get all the other cars from the manufacturers.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Right and the fact that the matter is.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: That's a job that you have to do?
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: In the six years that I've owned the car, I've put twice as many miles actually twice as many miles as the car originally had, which was 16 when I bought it, but you're using the car like you're supposed to, the way you want to use it on the road tours the Sunday afternoon drives for you.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: You bought it for Correct.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, so here's their version.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: It's been in the shop forever, Not driving the car to keep the miles.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Is there anything sadder than someone buying a special sports car and then letting it rot in the garage because they want to keep the miles low?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: If you, I get it.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: If you just bought one of one car out of a museum.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: This is 50 years old.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe it has a hundred miles on it.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: That's obviously something you won't drive much.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: But just about everything else you should drive and enjoy.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: If you're able to put a new Z06 in your garage, go out and drive the damn thing.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: We have all limited time here on this earth and you can't take the car with you.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Who cares if you reduce the monetary value of the car a bit because you drive it?
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: The real value in a sports car is the fun you have with it and the time you spent behind the wheel.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Well, we kind of went a little bit through that last weekend with talking to John Hovis out at Hemmy Hightown because John drives a lot of those cars he has in his collection and not that he's frustrated, but he kind of fussed a little bit that he hasn't had enough time to drive enough of them lately.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I know we all volunteer to drive any Hemmy he has.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: That he wanted to let us drive.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: It's bad for a car to sit that long.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, you see these guys up north, we're in the winter, they'll park them.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to it's going into hibernation and putting it in the garage.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I get that, yeah, because you know that's.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: But when the springtime hits in, the snow thaws and the ice thaws up there.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Get the car out.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Get the car out drive it around and you're ready to do it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Nice to do that with the wheels.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I take the summer wheels off and put the winter wheels on and the studded snow tires.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: No, they didn't have that Well, and think about it too.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Is you know how many people have bought that?
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: What was that?
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Pace Car Corvette 78 Pace Car Corvette?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they put them away with all the plastic on them and then they break them out to sell them at Barrett Jackson and they make good money on it.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: But take the time to think about how much did they spend on the car?
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: How much did they spend storing it?
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Did they really?
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: enjoy it All these years.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Did yeah, did they enjoy it, and did they really recover?
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: on investment, that's just investment.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: You know if they're buying it for investment.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Value is something different.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I thought that.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: That was a little fun.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: And that's a different part of enthusiasm on the in the cars.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: One enthusiast wants to sell it, make money.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: The other enthusiast wants to use it.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Well, some people I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, i'll- I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll buy them, particularly like in the Corvettes.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: they'll buy it and they'll drive it a year or two.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, I got that out of my system, ready to go do something else.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Right, and that's.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: But that's just part of it, whether it's a Corvette or a Corvier.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, even if it sits in the driveway like mine.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: It's only got 34,000 miles on it and it's a 22 year old car.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: It still costs me money.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I had to spend money to get the electrical problem fixed on the battery drain.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: You still have to insure it.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: You still got to put gas in it.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: So you got to buy tires.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, replace the tires every six, seven years.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: So there's that All right.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, time to move on.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Time now for Conrad's car clinic.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: Still on the fluids.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Is this the last of the fluids?
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: It can be Good, because we need to move on.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, All right, so we're going to talk this week about transfer case fluid.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Now I realize transfer case is typically four wheel drive or all wheel drive, but transfer case is that box next to the transmission that pushes power to the front wheels or power to the rear wheels.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: If your vehicle is typically front wheel drive, the transfer case box pushes power to the rear wheels.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: If it's like a pickup truck, the transfer case box is what pushes power to the front wheels and that fluid needs to be serviced like any other fluid does.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Typically, the manufacturer's transfer case fluid is automatic transmission fluid.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: The question is why?
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Because now they can reduce the part count or the skew in the assembly plant by one number and that's important to them.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: So now they buy bulk automatic transmission fluid and fill your transfer case with it.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not a believer that automatic transmission fluid is the right fluid for a transfer case, Because in a transfer case there's a lot of what's called shearing.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: As those gears mesh.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: That fluid has to do its job of clean, cool and protect.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Automatic transmission fluid is pretty thin, so you need to, especially on the OEM stuff.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: You wanna change that.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: My opinion is you should be changing it about every 40,000, 45,000 miles.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Like you would your automatic transmission fluid Like?
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: you would your automatic transmission fluid, and if you're using it in four wheel drive more often, you need to change your fluid more often.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: And if you back something down the boat ramp you need to change it more often than that as well.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Because that top of that transfer case has a little vent in it and a little bit of water in there, it can be pretty detrimental to it pretty quick.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: So there's no question whether transfer case fluid is vital to the overall performance of the vehicle, but it's whether the traditional gear oil or synthetic type fluid that's used is the correct fluid for your vehicle.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: And there are some very good transfer case fluids that are out there available in the industry that have a higher shear factor that are going to last longer and do a better job of cool, clean and protect.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: So change your transfer case fluid frequently, all your fluids.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Change all your fluids.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: You know I did that for the first time I guess it was a couple of years ago now, cost me a thousand dollars to do it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: But I needed to do it because it never been done on the Corvette.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Change all the fluids.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Yours is more time than mileage, though.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh, at most definitely time, and I'm glad I did, and it's gonna be the same thing with my oil change that I got coming up next month.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: It's my once a year oil change because I don't put that many miles on it but,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Use my mobile one or buy a Wix filter, and here you go, put that in there please.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: So everything's giving.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: He gets his oil change, Oil change.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Pretty much.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's because I also have to have the inspection sticker, which will be the last year for that, I think, and my to get the you don't need an inspection sticker after 20 years.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: You do, but the state of Texas is not gonna have that anymore.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: The pilot only needs it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: You won't have to have an inspection sticker, it'll just be oh, really yeah, even on my oil spill?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think so oh good.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: All right time now for some of the stories making automotive news headlines this week.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I'll be set by Glitches.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: With its RoboTaxes and the suspension of its deployment and testing permits, and its prime market crews Press the pause button on its driverless operations across the country Thursday night.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: The operational pause comes two days after the California Department of Motor Vehicles suspended crews's testing and deployment permits in the wake of an October 2nd pedestrian collision.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: And how many?
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: billions did they spend.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: This week's suspension and operational pause stemmed from the October 2nd pedestrian crash at the intersection of Fifth and Market in San Francisco.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: The circumstances are complicated.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: A human-driven car first struck the victim, who remained atop the hood of that car as it drove through the intersection.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: She then fell off the hood into the path of an oncoming cruise RoboTaxi, which ran over her and stopped on top of her.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I know where Fifth and Market is and yeah, she wasn't the hood.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Isn't that the?
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Where the Fisherman's Wharf?
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Fifth and Market is up near Union Square At any rate.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the car didn't recognize the fact that there was a human being.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Somebody was laying out in the middle of the road.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Well no, it jumped.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: The body went from the hood of one car.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: After that driver in car hit the woman, she slid off the hood in front of the RoboTaxi cruise vehicle and then it ran over her before it stopped.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, but I'm going to say, if there was a driver in that other car, probably the exact same thing would have happened.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: You know how much time do you have to react?
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Perhaps I don't know that either, but stopping on top of her probably wasn't a good idea.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: With interest rates rate hikes making new loans more expensive, millions of subprime car owners are struggling to afford their payments.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: It's a clear indication of distress at a time when the economy is sending mixed signals, particularly about the health of consumer spending.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: The percent of subprime auto borrowers at least 60 days passed due on their loans rose to 6.11% in September, the highest in data going back to 1994,.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: According to Fitch ratings, for those with the best credit scores, interest rates are about 5.07% for a new car and 7.09% for a used vehicle on average according to bank rate, and for those with the worst credit rates are about 14.8% and 21.38% for new and used cars respectively.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: If you got bad credit, if you could get the loan, if you can get the loan right.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: This woman in Denver said that with her credit score of 5.80, she's paying an interest rate of 13.58% under 2019 Buick I'm sorry, honda Ridgeline truck.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: The expense comes out to roughly $700 a month for the loan and insurance.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: That is on a used car.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: The 28 year old makes 17.50 an hour at Costco, so she's struggling to make her car payment along with her rent, all while she tries to pay down the more than $20,000 in credit card debt.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Yikes.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: And that's not the car's fault.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: No, it's not, it's not the dealer's fault, either it's the lender's fault for hanging her out to dry.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: you know, by putting her in something, but they're out to make money too, and they don't want to be caught, like during the Clinton years, with the housing bubble.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's probably gonna happen.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: You know, you think about how high used car values have been after the during and after the pandemic and all those people were stuffed in those cars.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Now they're trying to figure out how do I get out of the bottom of it, Because I'm sure most of them are way, way upside down in their cars as values have kind of normalized to a degree.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: So beware and be wary.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Just saying Time now for a quick break.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: You are on the In Wheel Time car talk show and thank you for being with us.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: We've got another hour coming right up.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Tale Pipes and Tacos is back.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: It's been a while, but the popular Tale Pipes and Tacos cruise in returns to the loopy tortilla Tex-Max in Katie, and it's an extra special one.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Bring your hot rod classic or modern classic to compete for one of the famous chili pepper trophies and get a free breakfast taco.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Just make a donation of any size to God's Garage and loopies will match it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: You'll be helping single mothers who need a set of wheels.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: It's been almost a year in the making so you won't want to miss Tale Pipes and Tacos.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Saturday, november 11th, 8 to 11am.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Cruise in, donate what you want to God's Garage and grab a free loopy tortilla breakfast taco.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Tale Pipes and Tacos only happens at the loopy tortilla Tex-Max in Katie at 703 West Grand Parkway at Kingsland Boulevard, just south of the Katie Freeway.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: It's car show season and what better way to kick it off than a free taco and comradery at Tale Pipes and Tacos.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Saturday, november 11th, 8 to 11am.
• 27:46
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• 27:50
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• 27:51
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• 28:08
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• 28:46
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• 28:50
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• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Houston's finest cars are invited to another Gulf Coast Auto Shield Car Social Saturday, december 2nd, and you're invited too.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Show off your personal pride and joy or just stop in to see the likes of Lucid Lamborghini, porsche, ferrari and more.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Gulf Coast Auto Shield is your one stop shop for paint, detailing, coatings, window tint, clear bras and wheel repair.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: The Car Social is your opportunity to get a tour of this state of the art facility, located at 11275 South Sam Houston Parkway, just south of the Southwest Freeway.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: It all takes place Saturday, december 2nd, 9 to noon.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: This is the perfect opportunity to connect with other car enthusiasts, from BMWs to mentally, corvettes to McLarens.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: The Car Social is a different kind of show.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Talk to the owners.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: See Gulf Coast Auto Shield's facility.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: You'll be amazed.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Put it on your calendar now the Gulf Coast Auto Shield Car Social Saturday, december 2nd, 9 to noon at 11275 South Sam Houston Parkway, just south of the Southwest Freeway.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: The In Wheel Time Car Talk Show will be there too.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: We'll see you then.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: That's it for this podcast episode of the In Wheel Time Car Show.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I'm Don Armstrong, inviting you to join us for our live show every Saturday morning, 8 to 11am, central on Facebook, youtube, twitch and our InWheelTimecom website.
• 30:07
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