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Pt 3: BYU vs Utah 2026 Holy War Preview: Keys to Victory, Talent & NFL Draft Prospects · Between Two Generations: A Father-Son Sportscast

• 0:02
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Between Two Generations, a father-son sports podcast, because raising a son is tough.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: But debating sports with me, now that's even tougher, all right.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to the episode this week, highlighting the holy war.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: Briggs, there's only one thing I've got to do.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: Listen, just listen to this.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_01: Briggs, we're gonna roast Utah here a little bit.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: Utah fans love talking about the Pac-12, which makes sense because that's the last conference where they were relevant.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_01: The Pac-12 was the dumbest conference ever.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: What the heck?
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I know.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: Utah fans love.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_02: Did they even win a Pac-12 championship there?
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, actually, I think they did one year.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, nice.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: One year.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_02: Nice.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_01: I think very nice.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: It was like the year that everybody won half their games.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, very nice.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_02: Have y'all been to a Big 12 championship?
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: Nope.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, nice.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_02: Nope.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_02: Who has?
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: Very nice.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_01: CYU Cougars.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: Utah joined the Big 12 thinking they'd run the conference.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_01: Turns out they meant run to the exit.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: Got them.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: Got them.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: One more of these jokes.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: One more.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_01: We got to roast them.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: One more.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: Utah fans have two favorite phrases.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: We don't care about BYU.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: And did you see what BYU did last night?
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: We own rental space in their minds.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: We own them.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_01: We own them.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get into it.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, this episode.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_01: This is our battle plan episode.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: This is where we are diving in to the actual analysis, the games, the keys to victory, our predictions.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my favorite part.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: Briggs' favorite part.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: He is going to blow us away.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_01: First off, let me give you just a quick rundown of what we're going to do.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to cover the stakes are higher than they've never been before.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: We're talking about great offensive line.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to be talking about the QB battles between Bear Bachmeyer, Devin Dampier.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: We're talking about the talent gap between them, if there even exists one.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: And we're just simply doing the keys to victory and our predictions.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: Briggs, you ready to rock?
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, buddy, let's go.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, buddy.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: Before we get into the analysis, we we really gotta make sure that everyone understands why this game is so significant.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is one of the biggest holy wars ever.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: That this is the important most important.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: This is the the most important.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: You're calling it the most important?
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: 100%.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: So stakes, these are stakes like never before.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: Briggs, put some color on it.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_02: What are we talking about here?
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_02: So this is the first time ever that BYU and Utah in the Holy War are both ranked in the top 10.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_02: BYU number seven should be number two where we had a stupid loss to UCF.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: And Utah number three.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: I want to make sure people heard that, right?
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: So in our long history of 100 plus years, the first time that we've both been ranked top 10.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_02: That if we beat B that if we beat Utah, that means you have two top three wins.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, put us in the playoffs.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm with you, buddy.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_02: And then yeah, Utah is 8-0 with the longest win chick in the country.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_02: And I'll give them that.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's kind of impressive, even though um they play in a stupid bowl game.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_02: But hey, we did too.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I mean, whatever.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, BYU beat Notre Dame.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_02: Then we lost to UCF next very week.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_02: So this is a really good, like, truly what we are kind of game.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we know we can beat Notre Dame, and we know we can beat all these top 10 teams, but we need to know if we can continue and like actually beat them multiple times, you know?
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like, you know, because we know Texas can do it.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_02: We know I mean we without without Julian saying, you know, we don't know if I Ohio State can do it.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_02: We know Maya can do it, we know all these teams can do it, but we see no VYU can do it, you know.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, especially with Utah too.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's the same argument for Utah.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they beat East Houston, not as good as Arwen, but hey, we'll give it to them.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_02: And this did this is really just such an important game, just because both teams didn't want to it's really a game where we truly get to know both these teams.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_02: So it's just such a massive game, especially since the Holy War.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's B is such a massive game.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's just two top 10 teams, but it's added to the Holy War.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_02: So I mean, this is it's gonna be so exciting.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so excited.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_01: I like that because both teams really need this for their resume because the Big 12 and both of these schools in particular, our strength of schedule compared to the SEC and the big a lot of well not all, but some of the Big Ten teams, uh isn't doesn't even compare.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, BYU is ranked, I think it was 38th in the country in strength of schedule so far.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: And Utah's, they were only they were up at 58.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: So, in terms of strength of schedule, you know, Utah probably needs this one a little bit better.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: But think about it.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_01: They each win just like what we're talking about.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_02: So much more than than well, for us, this is way more important than Utah.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: Because we already have the one loss B.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: You're right.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because if we lose this, then we have to hope that we get into the Big 12 championship game and win it.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_01: And that's not even guaranteed because we'd have two losses.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: If the other guys go one loss, they're in over us.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: But if we win this, we're in.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're in.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_01: Nice breakdown, buddy.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: Buddy, let's just dive right into it.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: Keys to the game.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what is BYU gotta do?
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: What are Utah's strengths?
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_01: Let's just get into all that stuff.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_02: All right, number one, we need to establish here.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm just gonna give you three three of my key, you know, keys or whatever you want to call it, to uh to uh for BYU to destroy Utah.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_02: Number one, we have to establish a run game.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, we can't we have to take the pressure off Barry Bachmeyer.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if Barry Bachmeyer can do it, I think he can do it again because he did against Notre Dame.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_02: He completely carried us in that game.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_02: But I don't know if he can do it against Utah, especially since Utah is one of the best.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_02: They have one of the they have maybe have a top 10 defense in all of college football.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: They have a really, really good running defense, just like Notre Dame.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: I looked up that stat.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: Your intuition is correct because according to the stat, they're ranked ninth best in all of college football, and they they're obviously number one in Big 12, but they're actually ninth in in all of college football.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'll look that up.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so we shouldn't put we should we have to have a good running game.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_02: And if LJ comes back, Utah's cooked.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_02: If if LJ's back, but even if he's not, I think we can still win.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um look, we we've we've establ we it's um we haven't been able to establish our run game against Arizona State and uh UCF, and that has hurt us the past two weeks.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we got we got it done with Arizona State because we just threw out our knockout punch like we always do with that 43-yard bomb, I think, to Legend Glasgow with Bear Bachmeyer carrying.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um But we really need to establish a run game because I don't know how much pressure Bear Bachmeyer can handle, especially against Utah, and it's out of Utah, so it's gonna be rocking there.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm not gonna name their student section because it's the dumbest name ever, but um, you know, they they are gonna be rocking, especially in the Holy War.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_02: And we were there.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_02: I mean it's definitely not as loud as BYU, but hey, it's it it's still loud, and especially since BYU's a top ten team too.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_02: So, anyways, but yeah, if LJ Martin comes back, it'll be so enormous.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but we still don't know if he's coming back.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_02: And then Utah's defense, if if we say one dimensional, like meaning for all you guys that don't know, if like we say one dimensional, that means like we're only like we're relying only on Barry Bachmeyer to pass it and like to for him to run it, we have to establish Sione Moa and our line needs to block against Utah's big dudes over there.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_02: And if we do that and we get oh I and if we do that, we get over 150 yards combined from Barry Bachmeyer and Siona Moa.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_02: Then we can we we're gonna win this game.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, Bioi's offensive line is really good.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_02: I saw faith in them, even though the last two weeks we haven't been good, but hey, I think we'll be fine.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_02: We'll get co coach Klein Stalkey will get it together, we'll be good.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so the um wait, keep going, keep going, sorry.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_02: Well no, that that's all I gotta say.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_02: That's those are your three keys.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so basically just like can't be one dimensional.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_02: Gotta establish a running game, and we have to take the pressure off Barry Blockmine and get over 150 yards and a couple of touchdowns.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_02: And we have to convert on those third and shorts, third and third and three, third and fours.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_02: Because if we don't, then that's gonna be fourth down, and then it's gonna give Utah momentum, which which momentum is just like momentum in rivalry games are like the biggest thing.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_02: Oh big.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_02: Cause if because think about hype you're gonna get if you're running if it's a third down and three, right?
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_02: And then you stop them, you know how you know how much momentum you're gonna get.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: So those third down and threes are so important in a rivalry.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: So critical.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_02: Especially in this game.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's just just all the sake sets.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_02: And it's it's it's gonna be it's gonna be so fun.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, that that's my first take.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_02: That's my first key.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: Excellent, excellent keys of Briggs.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_01: So let me let me give you let me give you two of my keys to victory.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: I agree with everything that you said.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: And so uh one thing is the BYU's defense.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about them.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh, because if you look at how they played against UCF and even a little bit against Arizona State with their running back Carde Mack, that guy was electric, right?
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: But you Carde Mack is he's legit.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: But the UCF guys ran all over us too.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I was wondering, I was like, okay, BYU's defense and their run defense had been really stout, especially against Notre Dame.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: How in the world was it just an emotional letdown game against UCF, or was style of play a factor?
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: So I looked into UCF, and their style of play is they got real shifty, crafty, like kind of crazy offense where it's unconventional.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: And that's how Utah is.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: They have a crazy offense.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what worries me a little bit.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: So Notre Dame, it makes sense that we were stout, they don't do anything, they're very simple.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_01: They're just like my guy against your guy, let's ground and pan and see who's better.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: BYU is better.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: But UCF, though, they run these crazy extra plays, these wild offenses, these crafty, super athletic, shifty running backs, and they ran all over our guys.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm I'm afraid that that's a little bit of the blueprint of how to beat this BYU defense.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: So that's one thing to look for.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: If BYU can maintain gap integrity, which which, okay, so grandma and and maybe mom, if you don't know what that means, you gotta maintain your your assignment.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: You can't you can't just think you can take an a lane and an angle on a guy that goes into uh somebody else on your team's position, because then those shifty guys are just gonna change directions on you.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: They're so quick and fast that they're gonna go to the spot you left.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: So you gotta stay in your lane, so to speak.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: And then you gotta maintain the edge, which means you can't crush the middle because all they're gonna do is run on the outside and they're so fast that now you gave up the sideline runs.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: So those kind of things are gonna be critical for us to to watch.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the other thing that's critical for me is um Utah's defense is great with run, but they actually have been giving up big plays in the passing game.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: Q up Bear Bachmeyer and which receiver?
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Legend Glaskar.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_01: Another Legend Glasker, baby.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: Kyler Casper.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: Kyler Casper all the time.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_02: Legend Glaskar, Jamar Chase, Kyle Casper, and T.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_02: Higgins.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, I like that.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_02: And Sionemoa, LJ Martin, Chase Brown.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think anybody else in the nation has made that take.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_01: You heard it right here from Brigham Wright, baby.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_02: So Bear Bachmeyer isn't on the Joe Burrow is is the greatest quarterback ever.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna say it.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: I don't even care.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: Give me all the give me all the hate you want.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even care.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: He's on his way.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's on Dan Orlovsky at the ESPN, he actually and Mark Schlereth on Fox Sports, they actually both said that Joe Burrow is the one that's most like Tom Brady out of anything.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, he is on his way, dude.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_02: If y'all watch it to, I know he threw three picks, but I mean, they were bad.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: But had but guess what?
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_02: This past weekend, yes.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: How do you handle picks?
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_02: You go for for 400 freaking fifty yards and five touchdowns and run it run in one and only miss ten passes when he can when you freaking complete 39 of them.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_02: Preach, preach Briggs, get him.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: Carry your team when your defense is 36.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: And how do you look in overtime?
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: Did he get tight?
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, ice in his veins.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: Joe cool, baby.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_02: Freaking go.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_02: What did Mahomes do this past weekend?
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, he's sold.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, he's crushed.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then he went to the ball.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: Well, here's a guy.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: And Chris Collins were still blazing on him.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so Bear Bachmeyer, let's go back to that though.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: Because Bear Bachmeyer, I see, is has a similar trait as Joe Burrow, where they are clutch in the fourth quarter.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's almost like Aaron Roderick, he's the offensive coordinator for BYU.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's almost like he draws up plays, knowing that in the fourth quarter, he's not really worried about it because Bear Bachmeyer is going to make some brilliant plays with Legend, Kyler Kasper, or even running it, that's going to seal the game.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: So the guy is cool.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, here's a here's a question.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: You and I talk about this a lot, all right?
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: Now, Arch Manning at Texas, I love you.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: You're my guy.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you got to be a little bit more consistent.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but you're inconsistent.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the question.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_01: If you were to take Bear Bachmeyer and put him on this year's University of Texas team, is Texas undefeated and the unquestioned number one?
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_01: I say absolutely.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: I say absolutely.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a bear believer.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a bear believer.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: I am an arch believer, but I'm an arch believer that he's eventually gonna get to that consistency.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: We're not making this a Texas Longhorn episode.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: This is a holy war, but that's more a shout out to Bear Bachmeyer.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: Freaking love that guy.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: So those are my key two, my two keys.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, can we stop the crazy shifty run game offense for Utah?
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: And can Bear and Legend and Kyler Kasper take advantage of that.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_02: Well, in another game, this is one of my keys, but another thing about um D.E.'s defense, Devin Dampier can run too.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he I think he had like around 60.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_02: I think he said he's been dominant again in the run game.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_02: And so we need to contain him through like very similar to Barry Bachmeyer.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_02: We need to contain him just like Bear Bachmeyer, like how Utah needs to come contain Barry Bachmeyer, and we need him to beat us through the air.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't think Devin Dampier is a very good quarterback, like when he's actually throwing it.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think Devin Dampier is actually that good.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh he sucks.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_02: So against quality opponents, his stats drop big time.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so he he just uses run game to save him uh to uh to mask how bad his freaking arm is because he he probably has like a little bit lot of fat right there.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: And when he throws it, it's like really jiggly.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_02: There's no muscle right there, he doesn't work out.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_02: He only he only hits legs like an absolute weirdo.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_02: And he probably hits legs like a he's kind of like we he's probably one of those like weird three times a guy leg guy.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like he's like, bro, what are you doing?
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like, dude doesn't hit ons or anything.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like, at least at least get a pump once in your mind.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's hilarious.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, anyways.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_02: So we need to beat him through the air, and we need him we need him to uh not just we need contain load the box up and all that kind of stuff and beat him.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's go.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_02: Make him make him beat us through the air.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's our keys to the game.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we go.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_02: We are actually have I'm kidding.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_02: I actually have one more.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, let's get it.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_02: Let's have one more.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_02: We need to win the turnover battle.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um Bear Bachmeyer had wait, wait, wait, restart.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, whenever you're ready.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_02: We need to win the turnover battle.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, that's the simplest one.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_02: I mean Bear needs to protect the ball.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: As you saw against um the Notre Game game a couple weeks ago.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: And against UCF.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: Did he throw a pick against UCF?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't remember, but I I I'm just gonna say against Notre Dame.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, when he threw that pick, that was a big momentum shift.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_02: So, Bear needs to protect the football when scrambling.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_02: He cannot fumble.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_02: If he fumbles it, that's gonna be a huge momentum shift.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_02: As again, I was saying earlier, momentum.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_02: The biggest thing in this game.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_02: To me, the biggest thing in this game to control momentum and not let Utah get any sort of anything because they're stupid and they're idiots.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: Anyways, if and we need to win the turnover battle, we need to force Devin Damp here to throw, and then we need to pick it off with our Theater Alexander and our our star cornerbacks, and maybe Logan's not 12.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: I think he's like 6'5 something.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: That guy's tall.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: So we need to pick it off, and then if we do if we do force turnovers, we need to finish in the red zone.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_02: Just like because how do we beat Notre Dame?
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: Notre Dame, I think, had three possessions starting in the red zone.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_02: I think it was they almost converted nine total points in all.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you're right.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: That is how we beat Notre Dame last year.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_02: So if we beat, so we need to if we get a turnover, we need to actually execute on the red zone and score touchdowns.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_02: And we need to avoid, we need to need to avoid early mistakes and bare block line, just can't be stupid.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: We need to establish if we establish a run game, win a turnover battle, and contain Dev and Dampier, we're winning this game 100%.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: I 100% agree with you.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's money.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: Money analysis, buddy.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: That's so fire.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_01: I love that one.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: Now, if there's one singular player that really amplifies and exactly shows why BYU is the better university, it's Jamal Williams, former running back for BYU, one of the best ever to do it.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Played in the NFL, did a great job.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm gonna play an interview for you.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: This might be the greatest mid-interview switch up of all time.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: This guy has the best heart.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: He's one of the funniest guys you'll ever meet.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: Roll the clip.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just grateful to do this for him.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: My grandfather, he was 92, but I'm just grateful for being in my life, and I'm grateful to be able to play football and do this for him.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: So there's a lot of memories, a lot of emotion happening right now, but I'm just grateful.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm grateful to be able to play this game for my great great-grandfather, and I'm glad that he's looking down on me and I know I'm making a problem.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: You said this ball's for him?
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this is for him.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: And those days, stop playing us, man.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: We may we the Detroit Lions.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: We the Detroit Lions, stop playing with us.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even watch TV, but I heard everybody already picked their pick the Packers over us.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: Stop playing with us.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's all I gotta say, man.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: Don't let these tears fool you.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: This all dog around this mug.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: He warmed your heart and you laughed at the same time.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: Love him.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go, BYU.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I've been uh there's there's a uh a question that might be out there, right?
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: So it's known that the BYU actually has a really good offensive line.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: So is is the fact that they are protecting Bear Bachmeyer when he throws it so well, how come then the past two weeks our run game has been non-existent?
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, because LJ Martin, obviously with him, our numbers look great.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: LJ Martin looks different.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: He just looks different.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: But even without LJ Martin, we were running it a little bit better, but the past two weeks just got increasingly worse.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: However, protecting Bear Bachmeyer was still stellar.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: So the question is, and this is something that you and I wanted to break down for our audience real quick, is why can't a team in an offensive line be really great at protecting the quarterback, but then be terrible at creating running lanes?
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I'm gonna break that down a little bit.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so uh when you're pass blocking, pass blocking is essentially it's defending.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so the linemen they give ground, they keep their hands inside and protect a pocket for about three seconds.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: So Bachmeyer also gets the ball out fast, which makes the line look better.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: So it's a whole lot different.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: You're simply protecting a an a a space.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: Think of it that way.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: Run blocking is attacking.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: So linemen have to move another 300-pound man backwards, then climb to a linebacker, and the back has to hit the right hole at the right time, with um, you know, and so LJ Martin has phenomenal, phenomenal vision.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that is actually one of the great hallmarks of a great running back is how good their vision is.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: Not just that they're fast, not just that they're powerful.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: If you got a fast and powerful guy with no vision, you run into the backsides of people and you just get tackled.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: No big deal.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: So the linemen then, they they actually got to create those lanes.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: So you gotta go on attack mode.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: So it makes sense that you can be great at pass blocking, but not that great at run blocking because you're not as good at pushing another 300 man backwards.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly, yeah.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: So but also with time, um defenses adjust.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so with Martin out, opponents can load the box like Briggs has been talking about, meaning just add extra defenders close to the line of scrimmage.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um against against Bachmeyer's runs, against Sionemoa, right?
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and uh you know, because what what our offense has been is Bachmeyer, Bachmeyer, and more Bachmeyer.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_01: And then Glosser, Kyle Kasper.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: And so and so defenses are adjusting, adjusting to that.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: Utah's run defense is stout, right?
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_01: But it doesn't mean that we still can't be successful with it.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: We just maybe got to get a little bit more creative in our in our zone read blocking and things like that.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: All right, y'all.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: This will be our final segment, but it's important to kind of take it at at what is the actual talent gap um in terms of re recruiting and the results that we're getting, NIL spend and things like that.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: This was this was a pretty highlighted thing in our Notre Dame game.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: Notre Dame was one of the top recruiters in the nation, what one of the top NIL spenders.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: And so on paper, you had David versus Goliath here at BYU, right?
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: So what if you're curious, how does that compare us versus Utah?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Let's take a look.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: You ready?
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so the 2026 recruiting class.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so this is all verifiable by the website 247 Sports.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: They're they're phenomenal.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: They give all the recruiting rankings and things like that.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: But 2026.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so BYU actually had one of their best recruiting ever.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: It was number 21 nationally and uh number two in the Big 12.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: BYU's uh this is the class that also got uh Ryder Lyons, the big time quarterback, right?
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: He's the highest BYU's highest rated pledge of the modern era.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, he's a five-star quarterback out of California.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: Guys the study's on his mission right now, coming home soon.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so these are all the recruits that are gonna be coming in eventually, right?
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: So these aren't necessarily who you're gonna see on the field on Saturday.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, Utah is ranked number 35 nationally and number four in the Big Twelve.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: So BYU technically has the uh the edge there, right?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um and that recruiting is actually the best since joining the Big Twelve for Utah.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: So neither one of these schools is considered a big time player on the national recruiting stage.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um the headline recruit for Utah is a four-star offensive tackle named uh Kelvin Obot.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh don't know who he is to be honest, but both are high school ratings, not roster talent, right?
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: So Obot.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Kelvin Obot, I'm not sure where he's from.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't look that up.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: Nippert.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but historically, um historically, the recruiting rankings.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: So when when Utah was in the Pac-12, their recruiting rankings were a lot better.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: They've always kind of consistently been like in the low 40s.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: And BYU has actually been anywhere in the 50s to the 60s and 70s nationally.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: So BYU has always been considered the school nationwide.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone has respect for Kalani for this.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: He does the most with the least.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so let's talk about the 2026 roster budget.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and this is this is where we're starting to talk about like NIL, right?
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: This is where we're spending on our guys.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: So BYU.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: About 21 to 25 million.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's it's not verifiable because schools don't officially publish this.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: This is just our best guesses and all that.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um this is according to the athletic, right?
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: So this is third in the Big 12.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: And University of Utah is about the same, anywhere from 18 to 22 million.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: So um so pretty so pretty similar, right?
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, 2026 NFL draft.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: So this is actual talent that we're that we're talking about.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: BYU was actually was shut out of the uh the 2025 draft.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: We actually didn't have anybody.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't really have anybody enter it either.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right, yeah, that's that's what I mean.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't really have anybody, but that that's where Utah had the two first rounders.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: This was uh Fano and Lomu, number nine and number twenty eight.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: So you Utah actually historically develops linemen pretty well.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um and that's uh that's what these guys are, and so that that's not really a surprise.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: So overall NFL tally getting drafted recently, it was those guys, but coming up in the future draft.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, now that's that's interesting.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: How does this actually compare for the talent that's on the roster now?
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: Now, according to all the draft boards and all the watch lists and everything, BYU actually has the edge slightly.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: So we have six projected draft picks, right, in any of the in any of the drafts.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: And Utah has five.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: So let's take a look at let's take a look at who those are.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: So starting off first with BYU, okay?
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and this is this is pretty much in order of how they're currently ranked, okay?
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and keep in mind these are going to be future draft eligible eligible people.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: So Legend Glasker, the stud, he's not on this list yet, but he obviously is gonna be, okay?
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, for sure.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so number one obviously is is running back for BYU, LJ Martin, one of BYU's strongest 2027 draft candidates.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: He's got the NFL size, he's 6'2, 225, amazing top draft pick for sure.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: He's probably the most talented guy and draft ready guy out of both teams that'll that'll be in the field if he plays.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, number two is still on BYU is actually Cade Uluave, our linebacker.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um he's physical and instinctive linebacker with NFL potential, right?
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: So he's uh he's number four uh if you're looking for him.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: I love that guy.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um number three is still on BYU's roster.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: Walker Lions are tight end.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, guys, the studs gonna be amazing.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: All right, and then um now that the the the next guys start to kind of compare favorably with who Utah has.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: But next is our safety, uh Falatau Satuala, 6'4, defensive back, um got tall, got length, got measurables.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_01: I love him.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_01: He's great.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: He's great, I think.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: Satuala's amazing, dude.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: Our cornerbacks are actually legit because next on the list is Evan Johnson, our cornerback.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um he's amazing.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: He's been shutting down people.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um our linebacker, Isaiah Glasker, he's good, is next on our list.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: And then, of course, our quarterback, Bear Bachmeyer, next year.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: He's gonna be a top, maybe.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he got potentially a top five pick next year.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: He he actually really does.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: You're not wrong.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: So even at if he just plateaus and he doesn't actually improve, um, where they're saying right now is he's gonna have a longtime NFL um um career in the NFL, probably as a high-level backup, but he'll always he's always gonna make a uh a roster because he's always gonna be good enough to be a backup at least.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: So that's good.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's good.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: Could be a starter.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: I think he definitely becomes a starter.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_01: I I I I love Ray Balmo.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think he'd be a star in the NFL, right?
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: So so really the top three for BYU is LJ Martin, Kate Ulawabe, and Walker Lions.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: So now how does that compare for Utah?
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go to their list real quick.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: So their running back, Way Sean Parker, he's actually a stud.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: He's uh he's he's he's probably the guy that leads Utah's draft prospects.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um he would not be taking over LJ Martin, but he still is a draft quality running back.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: So he'll he'll get looks.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: And then they've got Jackson Benny, their safety.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um he's uh he's pretty high-ranking prospects, um, but not too high on most people's boards, a late-round pick.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: Quarterback, Devin Dampier.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: He sucks.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's he's got NFL potential, third string at best.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: And what it depends heavily on his passing development.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: So, what you were talking about earlier, you're exactly right.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: He works well in college as a dual threat quarterback, but he's not a great enough passer yet.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_02: He has no feature in the NFL.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think he'll make the NFL either.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: No, uh, but their current offensive tackle that's getting looks is I don't even know how to say this, Zero A Williams.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, y'all, y'all team sucks.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_02: Let's just get this part, honestly.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you don't even need to mention Utah.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_02: So the I'm not gonna say their name this week.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna just say team we're playing.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: Their wide receivers aren't really on anybody's draft boards.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: They have one linebacker, they they normally produce decent linebackers, but Jonathan Hall, um, he's in he's in he's an NFL draft watch list, is what they're saying.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: So he's not big time.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: So this this Utah roster is not loaded with a ton of talent.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of their good talent went to Michigan with Kyle Whittingham.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: How did that work out for all those guys?
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: They suck.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: So if you are curious about the actual um talent on the field.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the team we're playing sucks.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: BYU.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so let's go into this then.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: Don't say Utah.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: Predictions.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: We can't say Utah this year.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna say the team we're playing.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: The team we're playing, the team up north.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: The but uh yeah, I don't know.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: Just the team, just the other team.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, all right, so biggest debate.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, I'm sorry.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, predictions, buddy.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: Let's just let's just end out on our predictions.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: Hit me with it.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me, tell me, but here's what I want to know.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: I want to know who wins, what's the score, who's the MVP, and what's the most surprising thing that happens.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_02: The winner is gonna be BYU.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna win 31 to 20.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: The MVP is gonna be Barry Bachmeyer, and Legend Glass is gonna have uh over 150 yards.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's your surprising stat?
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I'd call that surprising.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: I almost expected, to be honest, but you're right, it would be surprising.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so BYU 31-20, alright?
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I've got I got BYU winning as well.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: What's the score?
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um gosh, I hadn't thought about that, but I don't I don't think it's gonna be a crazy high-scoring game, to be honest with you.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: I think it'll end up being I think it's gonna be another nail biter like a 24-23.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's gonna another classic game.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I Bear Bachmeyer is gonna win the MVP.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think he's gonna have a crazy dynamic game.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's just gonna be super consistent like it was against Notre Dame.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: Notre Dame, though, he had four touchdowns of receiving or rushing and passing.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's crazy.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think that'll happen.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh but I do think he'll win MVP.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um the surprising thing is watch out for another crazy trick play.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Roderick was has has several trick plays up his sleeve.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: He used a couple against Notre Dame, and in the right time, you're gonna see him pull it out against Utah, and that's what's gonna propel us over to victory.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: All right, let's go, let's go.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, buddy.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: That is the end of this segment.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: This Saturday, it is going to be hype.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: It is going to be fire.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: We are super stoked.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: Buddy, are you gonna be just so pumped for Saturday morning today?
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna I'm gonna be so I'm gonna be tired, but I'm gonna be so excited.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get it.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get it.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: Gotta gotta leave you guys with one thought.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: Let's a little this little roast action of Utah.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: Utah fans say BYU is obsessed with them.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile, their favorite two teams are Utah and whoever is playing BYU.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: We own space in their head and they know it.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_01: And they're gonna be driving themselves mad after we walk out this Saturday with the dub.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, their other team's stadium is their stadium's horrible.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_02: Their fan is horrible.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just want to let y'all everyone knows listening to this.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: They're called their their student section is called the must.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that is what one.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_02: Every every everybody, whatever you're doing right now, dad.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_02: Just just everybody just stay quiet.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: The must.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_02: Think about that.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_02: For just for 10 seconds.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody stays out for 10 seconds.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, facts.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_02: Fact.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: The must.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: The must.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: Can I?
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_02: No, they're called the must.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_02: The must.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: What the heck does that mean?
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: Who knows?
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: Mighty Utah student section.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, you're so freaking cool.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: You're so freaking.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_02: The Utah's is so you know I'm in Utah.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_02: The other team is so dumb.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: Can't even explain how stupid they are.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: Their in-game experience is nothing like BYU's.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_01: That's not just me and Briggs' opinion, because we obviously love BYU.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: That is every sports commentator that comes, RG3, the ESPN crew, Gus Davis, all these Fox Sports guys, everybody, Pat McAfee.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: They all say the environment.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: Nick Saban even said it.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: The environment at BYU.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: They were surprised.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, we're unfamiliar with our game.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: One of the best in college football.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: You are unfamiliar with chocolate milk.
• 31:24
  unknown: What?
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody's saying that about Utah.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, yeah.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: No, no.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'll just make a joke that we don't drink.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: We drink chocolate milk.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: And Dr.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: Pepper.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_02: Chocolate milk, baby.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, we out.