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Graig Broke Big PSA Hobby News & Didn't Promote it!! · Sports Card Clubhouse

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  In our massive country, there are card collectors throughout
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  the land participating in the hobby.
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  There's Mike of Junk Wax Hero and Greg of Midlife Cards, and
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  while distance may separate them, here is where they come
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  together to talk cards. Hey buddy, how's it going?
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  You look better than you sound, Greg.
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  Do I that that doesn't really mean a lot, but thank you.
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  I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah.
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  It's, I was a little bit worried, You know, when you
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  texted me, was it Monday morning saying you're you didn't have a
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  voice? And I was like, oh boy, I got to
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  find a replacement for this week, but now you.
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  Are a trooper. Trooper.
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  Yeah, it was Sunday night I started to lose it Monday
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  completely gone Tuesday, mostly gone Wednesday a little bit
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  better and hey, I'm here. You can hear me.
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  We're good to go I mean, it's not like I'm a teacher.
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  So my voice, See, I, I, I kind of said, it was like I said to
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  my students, I go, it'd be like Louis Armstrong losing his
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  trumpet. What good is he without his
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  trumpet? And your students said who?
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  Actually, if you knew who he was, I was impressed.
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  So yes, I went it. I went down to Disneyland.
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  I hung out with my friend Mickey.
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  We had a blast. My dad went, my brother's family
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  went. It was a lot of fun.
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  It was not cheap, and as you might assume, it rose some
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  questions for me about the hobby.
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  So my topic for you today, my question for you, my friend, is
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  experiences versus stuff. Because I've had many times
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  people say I, I'm not going to use my card money on the
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  National, I'll just buy cards. How many cards could I buy with
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  the money it would cost me to go to the National or Strongsville?
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  And I did I, you know, like a week or two ago decided I'm
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  going to go down to the West Coast Card show down in Ontario,
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  formerly the Burbank Card show, and I'm using like $800.00 of
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  card funds to do it. And that's a lot for you and me.
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  Oh yeah, that's that's a crap done for me.
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  Yeah. So my question is, what are your
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  thoughts on that? Yeah.
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  And then I would love to talk about what I was watching your
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  video today that came out at 5:00 PM my time.
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  I was watching it while I ate my dinner before we started
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  recording. I was the only one here and I
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  think, I think you broke some news very, very quietly, very
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  subtly in this video that I feel like I was pretty, pretty darn
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  big news. I was kind.
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  Of you were just kind of like. Hey, I was kind of nonchalant
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  about it, but I agree. I could have put the the see,
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  I'm I'm not good at thumbnails. I don't and I'm not good at
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  titles, but I, I could have probably changed the thumbnail
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  and the title to make that get a lot of attention.
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  So why don't you, by the time you know this, this airs, that
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  video will have aired for a couple of days.
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  So why don't you tell me? I I think I know what you're
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  referring to, but just in case, tell me what specifically you're
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  referring to. OK.
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  So we're going to start right off on this, which is I think
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  great. You reached out to I.
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  I couldn't remember it was Nat Turner or Ryan Hogue.
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  Reinhogue. Privately through Instagram
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  message and it's by the way it's hilarious that you don't know
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  about Harding a message or or doing a thumbs up can.
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  You do that, can you thumbs up a message?
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  Yeah, of course. I don't know.
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  So you reached out to him privately after his PSA podcast
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  last week? Or was that two weeks ago now
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  anyway? No, it was like 8 days ago as we
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  record this. So it was it was approximately
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  January 14th or 15th. OK.
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  So you asked him, hey, will there be a universal registry
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  for PSA and SGC? And he very unequivocally said
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  no. Yeah.
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  And that to me, I was like, whoa, did, did we know this?
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  Did I miss this somehow, somewhere?
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  Has Greg shared this somewhere else, 'cause I, this is
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  literally the first video I've watched all week.
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  That's first time I've sat down to watch YouTube all week.
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  And I watched that. And I was like, I think I missed
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  this. Greg just glossed over what I
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  think is pretty big news out of the Collector's Holdings
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  universe. So what are your thoughts about
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  that? Well, first of all, I so I
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  screenshotted the actual message to and from and I knew that that
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  was a big deal and I should have probably said on the thumbnail
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  like it should have said like, you know.
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  Bombshell from PSA, Yeah. And then and then PSA shuts
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  down. Idea of universal set, you know,
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  I mean, that's like a that's like Neo would be talking about
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  that tomorrow. But that's just not that's just
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  not kind of what I do. It's not, it's not my lane.
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  You hate views. Big deal, dude, it's this deal.
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  He so, so we all know that there's APSA premium and the PSA
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  premium is largely a result of the registry because people want
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  to have the top registry. They want to have the top Mickey
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  Mantle run the top. You know, it's the competition.
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  It's the place you get to compete.
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  And so there is APSA premium without question.
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  And in some areas more than others, like Commons, It's it's,
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  it's, it's exceptional. You know, it's exceptional with
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  Commons, high grade Commons. And so I'm like, he, he talked
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  about the set at the end of the episode.
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  He talked about the set registry being overhauled, the back end
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  rebuilt and brought into the 21st century lightning fast, all
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  this stuff. And I'm like, well, I mean, this
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  is the perfect opportunity to include the two new labels that
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  you own, right? Right.
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  So I just asked him and he responded in like 5 or 10
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  minutes. It was quick.
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  And he says, no, we have no plans on doing that.
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  It's just going to be PSA. And that is such a big
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  statement. It's huge.
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  It's huge because it shows where their priorities are.
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  And not that any of us are surprised, but we were all
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  hoping because like earlier in the episode, he says things
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  like, well, you know, SGC, we're going to start setting up where
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  you can sell direct after grading.
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  And Beckett, you could grade and then sell through our
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  partnership on eBay. And they're, they're including
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  SGC and Beckett into some of these things that only PSA has
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  been doing, but not the SAT registry.
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  Big deal. What do I think about it?
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  I'm not surprised. I mean, I think I, I, I don't,
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  sometimes I don't remember what I say because I don't, I don't
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  really do notes much. I, I just talk and then I, I
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  later think back and I go, did I say that or think that?
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  But what I think that I said, and you correct me if I'm wrong,
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  is when you walk on the plane past first class and they've got
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  like real glass, you know, cups or no, not cups, glasses.
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  And they've got like silverware when they're already eating and
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  they got the warm wash clothes to clean themselves up and
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  stuff. And the rest of us are getting,
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  you know, we're in the cattle lines all the way to the back.
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  You know, like in Titanic when you're down in the bottom floor
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  and it was flooding out and the people up top were still
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  listening to the guy with the violin.
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  And, and it's like they have to do some things to protect the
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  premium brand and they are making a bold, that was a bold
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  statement that that's the premium brand and the the
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  secondary auxiliary groups aren't going to be a part of it.
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  So I think it's a big deal. That's what I think of it.
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  I'm frankly, I'm impressed and surprised that he responded to
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  you at all at all, let alone so fast, because he interestingly,
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  he reached out to me privately after my video last week.
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  I've never talked to Ryan. He has ignored every single time
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  I've ever tweeted at him or sent him a private message.
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  And this time he reached out to me after my video, which
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  surprised me. It wasn't anything
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  groundbreaking. He had, he had watched the video
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  and but you know, I responded back to him and he, he was done
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  with me. That was it.
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  But then you asked him a question.
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  He very easily could have ignored you and it would have
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  been expected. But he responded, which I think
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  it was like you said, it was a statement, it was important and
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  you should promote that. I I will.
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  I'll do a. Video.
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  I'll talk. About it, there's a reason I
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  don't have a crazy number of views and most of my videos get
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  between 1200 and 1700 views is 'cause I don't do the things I
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  need to do. But let me also say this, when I
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  first met my wife, OK, I hadn't even spoken to her yet.
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  I I remember the moment I saw her walking down the hallway, I
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  was in a classroom in a training.
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  I saw her walk by and I'm like, whoa.
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  That's my future. Her and I, her and I are gonna
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  be spending some time together, OK?
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  And so I started, you know, I just happened to sit near and
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  say nice things to her and be really kind of, she doesn't even
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  remember this 'cause this wasn't even a thing, but I was kind of
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  laying the groundwork a little bit, right?
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  So I knew that there would be a time I'd want to reach out to
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  Ryan Hoag. And so I tried to start a little
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  bit of a rapport, you know? I love that you're associating
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  Ryan Hoag with your wife. Here.
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  Oh yeah, no, this is just the way that I work.
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  You know, you got to kind of, you got to bait the hook a
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  little bit, right? And so I was looking through his
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  Instagram and I have a few times I've seen his post and things
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  and he's got a fair amount of golf carts that he has posted
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  about. And so to just to kind of start
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  the dialogue, I, I sent him a private message about the just
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  my admiration for the fact that he collected golf carts, which I
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  do too. And he responded back.
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  And so then I figured someday when I reach out again, he'll
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  go, oh, I've dialogue with this guy before and then I'll just
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  respond. It's not like some guy trying to
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  get some inside information. And so this was the moment and
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  and I felt a little tug and I went, but I didn't promote it,
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  but that's OK. So yeah, so I I'll, and I want
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  to say this too, because I think Ryan Hogue is probably, I'm
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  going to catch heat for this. I think he's probably a pretty
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  good guy, like everyone that I know that knows him and and I
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  don't want to get, I don't want to cross any lines of
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  confidence. But I have some friends that
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  have talked to him, have gotten information from him and they
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  say he's like a really nice guy. Yeah, no doubt.
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  And I think Nat is, is probably that way too.
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  The problem is that they're they are looking through things,
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  they're doing things that's in the best interest of their
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  company and their bottom line, which us as collectors, we get
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  irritated. It's like, listen, I I think
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  that Tom Brady's probably really good, but he's on the Patriots
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  and he won Super Bowls and he won more Super Bowls than Joe
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  Montana. And people say he's better than
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  Joe Montana. So I can't like him.
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  Listen, I'm a huge Patriots fan and I can't stand Tom Brady.
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  But it's the same thing. Like you love, I'm sure you love
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  Dustin Pedroia. I have to hate him.
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  I have to. You have to hate Paul O'Neill.
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  I mean, you got to hate Paul O'Neill.
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  Yes. And I love Paul O'Neill.
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  Any 1990s Yankees player other than Mariano Rivera is hateable.
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  So my take is I think they're probably decent guys.
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  I think they, I understand why people get upset, but I think I
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  could have a a drink and go to out to a steakhouse and watch a
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  game with those guys and probably have a lot of fun.
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  I do have one in person experience with Nat Turner,
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  which I think is really funny. It was two years ago, I think at
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  the National and I was not a well known YouTube and so I
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  doubt he knew who I was. But I was walking past him, Nat
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  Turner, and I said, oh hey, Nat. And he quickly took his phone
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  and put it up to his ear and pretended to be talking to
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  somebody and then walked away. I was like, wow, good seeing
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  you. I have AI, have AI have a Ryan
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  Hogue story. I feel actually, I feel really
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  badly about this because I I famously play that not famously.
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  I play the clip all the time of him going, well, you know, there
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  are standards in their ranges and you know, one time the card
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  could get at 8:00 and then one time A7 and one time a nine and
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  which is insane. But I play that clip.
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  I've played that clip 10 times on my channel.
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  And so we're walking in the national by the PSA booth and we
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  look over and we see Ryan Hogue there.
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  And there was like, I don't remember who I was with, might
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  have even been you. And I'm I say I go, oh, there it
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  is. I mean, you know, standards and
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  benchmarks are 7 it. And I'm like repeating the line.
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  I'm just being ha, ha, ha, ha. And then I look over my shoulder
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  and he's right behind and I felt like such a jerk cuz I'm just
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  busting his balls, but he doesn't know me.
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  Yeah, right. So what else about that
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  conversation? I mean, let's just completely
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  just go down this road then. So what else about that?
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  Same. I haven't watched your video
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  yet. What was your biggest take away
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  from that podcast? Oh, wow.
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  What was my biggest take away? That they are doing good things
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  or promising good things with SGC and Beckett.
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  And a lot of people are saying, wow, they're doing good things.
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  Well, they're saying they're going to, but that that doesn't
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  mean that they are. And, and just because you say
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  you're going to marry a supermodel or two, in my case,
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  doesn't, doesn't mean you're going to.
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  So that's, that's my take. Yeah. back-to-back or
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  back-to-back or at the same time.
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  Yeah, that when I was when I was a teenager, that's what I said.
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  I was going to marry 2 supermodels.
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  And then it did not happen. By the way, just spoiler alert.
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  When I was when I was at my first teaching job, I was, I had
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  just turned 23 and I had students that were 19 and I had
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  since I were 18 and 17. And so I was like the new young
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  teacher. And so I started, I was the
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  yearbook advisor. So a lot of like the kind of
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  who's who's kids were in my classes and I started a rumor
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  with my students that I was a former Abercrombie model.
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  And, and like a few of them believed me and started
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  spreading it that I was a, that I and, and they would Oh yeah,
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  look it up. And they're like, we don't know
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  you weren't. And I go, I don't care if you
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  believe me, it doesn't matter to me.
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  And like, so it started like circulating that Mister Miller
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  used to be an Abercrombie model, which is a rumor that I
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  completely started. I mean, how brilliant is that?
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  It is brilliant. So you don't think they're going
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  to actually do those things with PSA or with Next GC and Beckett?
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  Boy, you, you got me a little off guard here because the I did
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  believe that they're going to do a lot of them.
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  The one thing that they promised was a lot more capacity speeding
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  up their turn around times. And the point that I made was
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  that they have made this promise for years.
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  They've had slow turn around times at PSA for years and I'm
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  not convinced that they want to or can improve it.
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  Well, let me he he also said that they increase the capacity
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  at PSA by 25%, which is probably when they stole which I said
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  harvested all of the SGC. I love that by the way,
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  harvested their organs. Yeah, I'm quite I'm quite proud
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  of that one. They harvested all of the
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  graders from SGC and their space that had to have increased, you
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  know, 10% maybe just by by stuffing SGC in the broom
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  closet. But do you?
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  OK, let let's look at it this this a little bit differently
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  from a bottom line perspective. If they could process through
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  carts faster, that means they would have more money flowing
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  through the coffers. Not necessarily.
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  Not if demand doesn't increase. So you can increase capacity
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  significantly, but you're only going to lose money if your
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  demand doesn't increase enough to match it.
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  OK, let let's look at it a different way it a golf course,
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  right is always they're always on you about speed of play
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  absolutely get moving like. That's why they they require
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  carts more now than they did 25 years ago.
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  For sure. And, and part of that is the
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  more people they can get through.
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  If they could have P times every 7 minutes instead of every 10,
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  then that UPS by a third. They're, you know.
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  This is a bad this is a bad comparison because it doesn't
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  cost the golf company, the golf course, any money to speed you
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  up unless there's something that they're doing like they're
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  putting people out there yelling at you.
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  But when I used to golf quite frequently in college, they
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  would just tell people as you went out onto the course.
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  Please make sure you're keeping a good pace.
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  Whereas at PSA, it's costing them millions and millions of
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  dollars to increase their capacity to grade, to
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  authenticate, to identify cards. And so there isn't on the golf
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  course unless, unless you have people out there that are
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  telling you to speed things up, unless they're subsidizing your
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  golf carts, which I don't think they are, it's not costing them
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  any money to to speed you up. Isn't it possible though?
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  Which which it isn't it possible that the initial investment
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  amortized over a long period of time will actually be a cost
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  saving? Yes, initially to implement some
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  machinery which automates the sealing process is going to cost
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  money, but it, it, it's like how in California as soon as they up
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  the, I don't know if people outside California know this,
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  but the minimum wage at fast food restaurants in California
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  is $20.00 an hour. And, and so now when you go into
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  McDonald's or you go into wherever there's touch screens
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  and you order yourself, there's not a person that takes your
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  order. When I go to Carl's Junior and,
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  and I go to Taco Bell and I, I talking to the speaker at the
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  drive thru, it's an AI system that is doing the order.
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  It's not a person anymore because it's cheaper to invest
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  into those systems. And then it pays off overtime.
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  Don't you think that overtime this will pay off in in just
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  huge, huge numbers for PSA if. If the investment is in
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  technology and not people, absolutely, but largely the
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  investments for capacity are in people.
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  If somebody was done investing in sports cards and was ready to
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  sell their collection, Mike, where do you think somebody
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  should try to sell their cards? Where would you go?
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  I would go to Chris Sewell, baseball card collector,
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  investor, dealer, in that order. I'm so glad you asked this,
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  Greg, because Chris is a good friend of ours and we, if I were
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  selling my collection, I would go to him in a heartbeat.
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  He would give us anybody a great deal and he'd be extremely
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  transparent about how he comes up with that you if you're
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  selling part or all of your collection, consider Chris
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  Sewell, baseball card collector, investor, dealer.
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  You can e-mail him at sewellsportscards@gmail.com.
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  You can go to our website, sportscardclubhouse.com.
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  Click on. Partner Partners.
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  Partners. Boom, there he is right there.
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  You can reach out to him. Yeah, Chris Sewell is the best
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  and we strongly recommend him. Now I got to say something about
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  Chris because I got AI, got a little bit of AI, got a small
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  bone to pick with Chris right now.
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  Not really. They they started that their
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  podcast, which I've really been enjoying.
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  Yeah, I haven't listened to. Today's yet but.
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  Jeremy Dodson, The Texas Snowman and Chris Sewell are doing
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  Collector Investor Podcast and. The the branding is so good.
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  It's really good. And, and Theo apparently is
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  their executive producer, which is which is when he pops on.
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  It's it's very funny. It's, you know, like it reminds
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  me of when like Baba Booey comes on in Howard Stern, you know,
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  for a minute and then they he goes back out of the studio as
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  quickly as he came on. It's, it's, it's good and and I
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  really do genuinely enjoy it. Me too.
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  And Chris has mentioned something that you've said on
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  our podcast like 3 or 4 times, like MO MM, duck wax, Mike said
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  this and I'm like, and then, and he never mentioned me.
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  And then what he did was he asked a question.
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  I can't remember what it was, but it was a question.
• 23:58
  Oh, he said their question for their debate topic.
• 24:04
  No, not the debate topic, but it was just a question that Chris
• 24:07
  said was what's your favorite slab?
• 24:10
  And I'm like, that's the question that was on our last
• 24:15
  poll on Sports Car Clubhouse. So what's going on with that?
• 24:20
  I don't. Know it's funny, Jeremy called
• 24:23
  me, I don't know, six weeks ago maybe, and, and told me that
• 24:28
  they were going to start a podcast and I he said, hey, this
• 24:30
  is a great opportunity to put it on sports card clubhouse and he
• 24:37
  he made me pretended to consider it, but then he's like, Nah, I
• 24:41
  think we're going to start our own channel and he asked me for
• 24:44
  some technical advice and I was like, you got to get yourself an
• 24:46
  atom splendid sports atom. He does all that for us.
• 24:50
  We do none of it. And so I think that Theo is his
• 24:54
  atom. It it would be fun though, if we
• 24:57
  were going to have on surface issues because we've not done
• 25:01
  surface issues guest. You know, if we were going to do
• 25:05
  like a crossover, kind of like crossing the streams a la the
• 25:10
  Ghostbusters, you know, it would be kind of fun to have those two
• 25:14
  guys on and and we could kind of compare notes and what they're
• 25:18
  why they started theirs, why we started maybe this.
• 25:21
  Maybe we should talk about doing that.
• 25:23
  Yeah, I'd love to. Happy to text them and find out
• 25:27
  if they'd be down. I'm sure they would be.
• 25:30
  Yeah, Now, OK, so back to my original question at the
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  beginning from like three hours ago.
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  I mean, 25 minutes and 38 seconds ago, but three hours is
• 25:40
  close. My question is, you know, as I'm
• 25:45
  in Disneyland and I'm spending all this money, I'm just like
• 25:48
  corn dog after churro after Dole Whip and I'm and I'm having a
• 25:53
  blast and we're making great memories.
• 25:55
  Wait, what's a Dole Whip? Come on, are you serious?
• 25:59
  Oh boy, we're going to get into another food conversation you
• 26:02
  had never heard of. Why?
• 26:04
  I've never heard of You don't know what a Dole Whip is.
• 26:07
  A Dole Whip is a well, it started as just pineapple, but
• 26:12
  it's a, a pineapple soft serve, like an ice cream.
• 26:18
  And it's by the it's, it's in the tiki Hut, which is out in
• 26:23
  front of the Tiki room. Have you been to Disneyland or
• 26:28
  just Disney World? I went to Disneyland 13 years
• 26:32
  ago I think. How many times have you been to
• 26:36
  a Disneyland or Magic Kingdom Disney World?
• 26:42
  I don't know, four times? OK.
• 26:48
  No, probably once as an adult. OK, I'm going to pull this up on
• 26:56
  the screen for you 'cause you just to really be able to enjoy
• 27:00
  it. Oh yeah, look at that.
• 27:02
  Oh dude, these are no joke. In fact, when I was there, I got
• 27:05
  a text message from from our good friend Tony over at
• 27:09
  Southern Collector 14 and he said make sure you have an extra
• 27:12
  Dole Whip for me. But anyway, OK, so back to that.
• 27:17
  As you're spending all this money, I'm like, part of me is
• 27:19
  like, you know, for the same amount of money that we spent on
• 27:24
  this trip, we could have bought a brand new couch and a brand
• 27:29
  new state-of-the-art television that we could have used and
• 27:35
  enjoyed for the next five years, or we could have four days at
• 27:40
  Disneyland. And, and I know a lot of people
• 27:44
  have talked about this with cards of why go to the National,
• 27:47
  Why go to Strongsville? Why go to the West Coast card
• 27:50
  show when I could buy a really nice card with that amount of
• 27:54
  money? So my question is like when
• 27:57
  you're rating experiences versus items like how, how does that
• 28:04
  work? How do you work through that for
• 28:07
  you? Yeah.
• 28:08
  So it let's say the Nationals going to cost me a grand total
• 28:15
  of $1000 to go to. That's an easy decision.
• 28:19
  I, I go cheaply. I buy buy cheap plane tickets.
• 28:23
  I stay in a hotel or, or whatever motel.
• 28:28
  I once stayed in a Motel 6, I think, and that was I regretted
• 28:32
  that immediately. I took videos of all the like
• 28:35
  cockroaches. It was so bad.
• 28:37
  I remember is in Cleveland. Yes, right.
• 28:41
  So I stay in cheap hotels, not that cheap anymore and because
• 28:50
  the experience is so important to me, not in going to the show
• 28:54
  necessarily, although that's great.
• 28:55
  I love that. But the hang out with friends,
• 28:58
  the YouTube, Mike Moynihan puts on a great YouTube get together.
• 29:03
  There's other events that I was lucky enough to be invited to
• 29:06
  last year and hope again this year.
• 29:11
  Just being able to hang out with all these people that you talk
• 29:15
  to through YouTube or you watch on YouTube and you've never
• 29:18
  actually talked to. I met a bunch of people that
• 29:21
  I've watched before. Some people I had never watched
• 29:23
  before. And now I do watch because I met
• 29:25
  them in person and really like them.
• 29:28
  The being able to go and hang out with people.
• 29:31
  But I will also say there's a there's a meme where a little
• 29:35
  girl says Porque no Los dos. Why not?
• 29:38
  Why can't we have both? I want to do the experience and
• 29:43
  I want to buy cards. But if I had, if I had $1500, I
• 29:49
  would gladly spend 1000 to go and spend 4 days there and then
• 29:56
  only have $500.00 of spending money.
• 29:58
  And some of that would be food, of course, some of the a little
• 30:01
  bit of card card money. So yeah, I the experience for me
• 30:08
  is very important. I wouldn't have said that four
• 30:11
  years ago. I went for the first time in
• 30:13
  2022 and it was, it was awesome. I said I'm going to go back
• 30:18
  every year, but I never expected it to become what it is now and
• 30:22
  how important it is now. Now not to dig too deep on this,
• 30:27
  but do you do you use hobby funds for your trip for hobby
• 30:37
  events? Or is that like vacation type
• 30:41
  money, like family type money and then your card money is for
• 30:45
  cards A? 100% of my hobby money comes
• 30:50
  from card funds and that includes travel.
• 30:54
  So, you know, you, The difference is when I buy a card,
• 31:00
  it's a it's an expense and it's, it's a personal expense.
• 31:04
  When I travel, you can deduct that from your taxes because
• 31:07
  we're, it's going, you're going there for YouTube related
• 31:12
  reasons and a very dedicated tax specialist has said you have to
• 31:19
  deduct those. But I don't, you know, if I'm
• 31:22
  buying cards, I don't deduct the cards I'm purchasing when I'm
• 31:26
  there because those are personal things and not, and I hate to
• 31:31
  say business expenses, but technically when you pull in
• 31:36
  revenue income from YouTube, you become a business.
• 31:41
  Yeah. But yeah, yeah.
• 31:43
  So to answer your question, it is fully everything I I make,
• 31:48
  everything I spend on cards and travel for cards comes from
• 31:55
  YouTube revenue or YouTube income.
• 31:57
  Yeah, there was a video that I was listening to on the way
• 32:03
  home. It wasn't your buddy Jeff.
• 32:06
  It was Boston Card Hunter who you you had as a guest on a
• 32:13
  sports card clubhouse episode and he was on with Dustin.
• 32:16
  I, I watched that. So I, yeah, I, I misspoke
• 32:19
  earlier 'cause I did watch that right before I watched yours.
• 32:22
  So I was watching that one and then yours popped up and I I
• 32:26
  switched over with about two minutes left and Dustin and and
• 32:30
  Boston Card Hunter. That was a good conversation
• 32:32
  too. It was really interesting
• 32:34
  because there there is a certain thing where you know it it if if
• 32:41
  you do an ad or you take a sponsor or if you monetize a
• 32:46
  video, there are certain people who that upsets them.
• 32:50
  And so because there is an element of that, there are a lot
• 32:55
  of people who don't talk about the monetization and the income
• 33:00
  and, and so a lot of people don't know and they just make
• 33:03
  assumptions on what people are receiving.
• 33:06
  And, and you know, what Dustin receives is going to be a lot
• 33:09
  different than like what I receive, you know, but at the
• 33:12
  same time, some people just have no idea.
• 33:16
  And I thought it was cool that the two of them were willing to
• 33:19
  talk about it. And it was really interesting
• 33:22
  how quickly Boston Card Hunter got monetized and the to the
• 33:28
  level. Now granted he had a a rocket
• 33:31
  ship video which carried a lot of that, but still, there's a
• 33:35
  substantial amount of money. That's more than I had ever made
• 33:41
  in a month. The amount of money he made in
• 33:43
  December was more than I had ever made in a single month.
• 33:46
  So good for him. He had a, a massive following in
• 33:49
  Instagram and he's really good at, at promoting his videos and,
• 33:54
  and chunking them out. And, and so, yeah, I mean, plus
• 33:57
  it was, it was really interesting.
• 33:58
  I watched that. I want that guy, that greater
• 34:02
  former grader to start his own YouTube channel.
• 34:04
  I found him to be an insanely compelling personality.
• 34:08
  I know I didn't watch it. I saw it.
• 34:12
  I don't really know why I didn't watch it.
• 34:14
  I didn't watch it, though, but I heard it was good.
• 34:17
  Yeah. Yeah, that I thought that
• 34:21
  conversation between Nick and and Dustin was really good.
• 34:24
  I was going to make a point and I I forgot.
• 34:29
  That's OK. We're getting old.
• 34:30
  That's what we do. We forget stuff.
• 34:32
  I I tell my I tell my students all the time I go.
• 34:34
  These Gray hairs didn't grow themselves guys, you know so.
• 34:39
  Mine either. Yeah, well, we're, we're 35
• 34:43
  minutes in. We have covered the, we have, we
• 34:46
  have informed you on a Dole Whip.
• 34:49
  We have talked about the breaking news that I broke but
• 34:53
  did a terrible job of sharing or getting people interested in all
• 34:59
  of it. All of this is fine.
• 35:00
  The, the, the travesty is that you didn't know what a Dole Whip
• 35:03
  was. And we've talked about hobby
• 35:06
  funds, we've talked about Chris Sewell.
• 35:08
  I mean, what left is there to talk about?
• 35:12
  My 16 year old is sending me videos of deer in our yard right
• 35:16
  now. Nice.
• 35:18
  Yeah. Do you guys get a lot of deer up
• 35:20
  there? It's always the same family of 5
• 35:22
  or 6 deer but yeah most days but it'll never get old.
• 35:28
  Yeah, yeah. We, where we live, there are,
• 35:33
  there are, it's a, a large community that has a river that
• 35:37
  runs through the middle of the community.
• 35:40
  And my dad lives on the north of the river and we live on the
• 35:44
  South of the river and the north of the river has tons of deer
• 35:48
  because they don't have fences. I don't know what it's like in
• 35:51
  Maine, but in California most people have a perimeter fence
• 35:55
  around their around their lot and on the north of the
• 36:00
  community they don't have perimeter fences.
• 36:04
  So the deer can just walk through 1 yard into the next.
• 36:07
  And the deer love that 'cause they just eat the heck out of
• 36:10
  everything. On the South where I live, they
• 36:13
  there are perimeter fences and so the deer just like it's
• 36:16
  harder to get this stuff. So they don't really hang out
• 36:18
  over here. So we do get deer here, but most
• 36:23
  of the deer I see are out on the golf course or up on the other
• 36:27
  side of the community where my dad is.
• 36:29
  But I mean, when my kids were little, 'cause we have, we have
• 36:32
  golf cart. And when my kids are little,
• 36:35
  we're little. We used to get in the golf cart.
• 36:38
  We'd all pile in the golf cart and we would say to each other,
• 36:41
  all right, how many deer do you think we'll see today, tonight?
• 36:45
  And we'd go around dusk and we'd all predict and then we'd drive
• 36:49
  around for like 20 minutes and we'd count the deer that we'd
• 36:52
  see and we'd see who got the closest.
• 36:55
  Now, because I was the driver, I would always pick a high number
• 36:59
  and I would always keep driving until we saw more deer than
• 37:02
  everyone else had guessed so that I could win 'cause that's
• 37:05
  just the way that I work. But but it was something we did
• 37:09
  forever. And many evening we would go out
• 37:13
  and count over 100 different deer.
• 37:16
  Wow. 100 Some of these guys are big trophy box too, like just
• 37:23
  you know, like 8-9 point big guys.
• 37:27
  Yeah, yeah. That reminds me of when, when my
• 37:30
  kids were little and we would, you know, we'd be driving home
• 37:32
  from somewhere that's like 20 minutes away.
• 37:34
  And I would say, what time do you think we'll get home?
• 37:36
  And everybody would put in a time.
• 37:38
  And then because I was driving, I would either slow down or
• 37:41
  speed up to make sure I was going to win.
• 37:43
  Yeah, yeah, I love it. We're going 4-4 miles an hour
• 37:46
  down our Rd. so that my my time hits perfectly.
• 37:49
  Yeah. Yeah, that's fantastic.
• 37:52
  I I, I read a book one time about this this kid and he was
• 37:56
  talking about how his dad would make a rain stop.
• 38:00
  He would, he would make the rain stop hitting the car when they
• 38:03
  were driving down the highway. And the kids would have to close
• 38:07
  their eyes and he would say, OK, I'm going to make the rain stop.
• 38:09
  Ready in 321. And then the rain would stop and
• 38:13
  then a couple seconds later start again.
• 38:15
  And the kids were just like blown away.
• 38:17
  How their dad could make the rain stop was whenever they went
• 38:20
  under an overpass. And I'm like, those sorts of dad
• 38:23
  tricks are just beautiful. I love that stuff.
• 38:26
  Yes, yes. Those are the things you talk
• 38:28
  about forever. Oh yeah.
• 38:30
  Oh yeah. And I mean, I read of that in a
• 38:32
  book 25 years ago and I still think about it sometimes.
• 38:36
  I'm like, I think I'm going to use that one one of these days
• 38:40
  with my adult children. So all right, buddy, rest is a
• 38:46
  good one. There's I'll rest when I'm dead.
• 38:53
  All right, That was a good one. That was fun.
• 38:56
  We'll see what everybody else thinks.
• 38:57
  You let us know again, if you haven't been to the Sports Card
• 39:01
  Clubhouse, we do have a poll going right now.
• 39:04
  What is your favorite non national show?
• 39:06
  Check that out at sportscardclubhouse.com.
• 39:09
  Also, if you want to submit your favorite pick up now from
• 39:13
  January for the February submission, you can do that at
• 39:17
  Sports Card Clubhouse. Go to the midlife tab and go and
• 39:21
  submit that. There Anything I'm forgetting,
• 39:24
  Mike? I don't think so, other than
• 39:28
  staying alive, Greg. I hit me coughing up.
• 39:33
  Coughing up a hairball over. There it'll I am just fine.
• 39:38
  Don't any of you worry out there.
• 39:40
  But if you are worried and you want to send donations, I am
• 39:45
  accepting those just in case, yes.
• 39:49
  Actually, you should donate them to me so I can make sure that
• 39:52
  they get to Greg's family. That would be fine too.
• 39:56
  Yeah. All right, buddy.
• 39:58
  Another fun one. See you in a week.
• 40:00
  See ya.