Latest / Booked On Rock with Eric Senich / Billy Corgan Was a Shred Guitarist?! (Lost 1985 Solo) [Highlight From Episode 369]
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ever wonder what goes on behind the scenes of rock history.
- 0:03Speaker 1: Here's a snippet from a recent episode of Booked on Rock.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Greg Preto returns your brand new book is titled I
- 0:09Speaker 1: Am One. The Smashing Pumpkins Story nineteen eighty eight to
- 0:13Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four. Before the Pumpkins formed, he went through
- 0:17Speaker 1: several earlier bands like Hexan, Coat of Eyes, and the Marked.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Some of Marked material of surface on YouTube. I haven't
- 0:26Speaker 1: listened to it, but you note that he still had
- 0:28Speaker 1: a ways to go with writing memorable songs around that period.
- 0:31Speaker 1: He was in Florida at that time. During that same period,
- 0:35Speaker 1: Billy saw the Red Hot Chili Peppers playing a tiny
- 0:38Speaker 1: club and also caught a performance by Bad Brains. Talk
- 0:41Speaker 1: about the impact that those shows had on his mindset
- 0:44Speaker 1: as a musician, and.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Also, I just want to I just want to ask you.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Did you ever see video footage of his high school
- 0:49Speaker 2: band called Hexan.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Did you see that?
- 0:51Speaker 1: No?
- 0:52Speaker 2: I highly recommend you and all the viewers check it
- 0:54Speaker 2: out on YouTube.
- 0:55Speaker 3: There is a guitar solo that he does.
- 0:57Speaker 2: He's down one of the members' basements, I guess is
- 1:00Speaker 2: where they used to rehearse, and he.
- 1:02Speaker 3: Does I talk about that in the book.
- 1:03Speaker 2: He does a guitar solo that's like beyond Ingveay Malmstein.
- 1:16Speaker 2: He's gonna be a very big fan of it, especially
- 1:18Speaker 2: you like listening to like, you know, Van Halen and
- 1:20Speaker 2: also Vey and Randy Rose and all that stuff that
- 1:22Speaker 2: was popular at the time.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Right, Because we find out years later he is a
- 1:25Speaker 1: fan of those bands and those guitars. He ends up
- 1:28Speaker 1: interviewing Eddie. Yes, it was a guitar world.
- 1:31Speaker 2: It was a guitar world in nineteen ninety six, right,
- 1:34Speaker 2: but the I remember buying the issue on my way
- 1:36Speaker 2: to work back in nineteen ninety six.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's a huge Van Halen fan. And he
- 1:40Speaker 1: just had on his own show he had Stephen Pearcy
- 1:42Speaker 1: from Rat.
- 1:43Speaker 3: Yes he did. Yeah.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Yeah, That's one thing that Billy Corgan has always been
- 1:47Speaker 2: very vocal about. You know, in the nineties, it wasn't
- 1:50Speaker 2: so cool to say that he liked eighties metal, but
- 1:52Speaker 2: I remember in like interviews as early as ninety four
- 1:55Speaker 2: ninety five he was named checking Judas Priest and also
- 1:59Speaker 2: you know album and bands by them, so especially the
- 2:02Speaker 2: British Steel album.
- 2:03Speaker 1: I remember he mentioned, Yes, but the Chili Peppers and
- 2:06Speaker 1: Bad Brains really formed his sound.
- 2:09Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, like the mid eighties.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Of course, that were still a few years before Nirvana
- 2:14Speaker 2: never Mind changed everything, and alternative is still pretty much
- 2:19Speaker 2: totally underground. There were Chili Peppers only have like one
- 2:22Speaker 2: or two albums. The Bad Brains have a few albums,
- 2:25Speaker 2: but they sadly never get really a major label shot
- 2:29Speaker 2: until the nineties, and it's not nearly as good as
- 2:32Speaker 2: what they were doing in the eighties.
- 2:33Speaker 3: But he is lucky to see those two bands at
- 2:35Speaker 3: their peak.
- 2:36Speaker 2: I believe that would have been the Chili Peppers when
- 2:38Speaker 2: hill El Slovak was still in the band and that's
- 2:40Speaker 2: considered their best lineup, and the Bad Brains that's their
- 2:44Speaker 2: peak too. That's around the time of Eye against Eye,
- 2:46Speaker 2: which is my favorite Bad Brains album ever.
- 2:50Speaker 3: That's say a great, great album. But yeah, I think
- 2:52Speaker 3: by seeing those.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Two bands that shows him that there's more than just
- 2:57Speaker 2: He seems like in high school went from metal to
- 2:59Speaker 2: being into like alternative than goth. It seems like he
- 3:01Speaker 2: goes from listening to metal, then he goes to like
- 3:05Speaker 2: Jesus in the Mary Chain and depeche Mode, and then
- 3:10Speaker 2: also like r Em. I know he was in two
- 3:12Speaker 2: in the eighties as well, So it seems like maybe
- 3:15Speaker 2: through the Bad Brains because the Bad Brains Eye against
- 3:18Speaker 2: Eye album, that's definitely a melding of a bunch of
- 3:20Speaker 2: different styles of music, like.
- 3:22Speaker 3: Reggae, heavy metal.
- 3:23Speaker 2: It's probably their first like hard rock, heavy metali ish
- 3:26Speaker 2: type album. There's a little bit of funk, not that much,
- 3:29Speaker 2: but on like later albums add some more funkier stuff.
- 3:32Speaker 2: But maybe seeing the Bad Brains and also the Chili
- 3:35Speaker 2: Pepper has maybe expanded his his horizons and also showed
- 3:37Speaker 2: that there was maybe something on the horizon that was
- 3:40Speaker 2: going to be coming, you know soon, that was going
- 3:43Speaker 2: to give us some much needed alternative to all the
- 3:45Speaker 2: bad hair metal that was popular at the time. I
- 3:48Speaker 2: was thinking around the time I was doing this book,
- 3:50Speaker 2: going back and listening to all the solos Billy Corgan,
- 3:53Speaker 2: I would think is my favorite guitarist that came out
- 3:55Speaker 2: of the nineteen nineties. To be honest with you, I
- 3:58Speaker 2: think his solo is His solos are great. The thing
- 4:01Speaker 2: I talk about also in the book, the why I
- 4:03Speaker 2: loved Smashing Pumpkins so much, especially at the time in
- 4:06Speaker 2: like nineteen ninety one, I at that point, I am
- 4:10Speaker 2: just transitioning away from strictly listening to heavy metal and
- 4:13Speaker 2: listening to like alternative and funk and all other styles
- 4:16Speaker 2: of music. And the Smashing Pumpkins were definitely a bridge
- 4:20Speaker 2: type band like them, Soundguard and Faith No More. That
- 4:24Speaker 2: for people that were in a heavy metal it showed
- 4:26Speaker 2: you that they're that, Yeah, you could still do like
- 4:29Speaker 2: heavy music, but you could also inject alternative and also
- 4:32Speaker 2: other different styles. It's you're not just stayed just one lane.
- 4:36Speaker 2: And that's absolutely what Billy Corgan did. And yeah, his
- 4:40Speaker 2: soloing on this, especially the first two Smashing Pumpkins albums
- 4:43Speaker 2: have some of my favorite solos, like the solo to
- 4:45Speaker 2: Schera Brock is great, the solo and Siva. I love
- 4:50Speaker 2: the solo in Geek USA. There's a great, great B
- 4:53Speaker 2: side called Starla, which is like a ten minute long
- 4:56Speaker 2: song and the solo is like a good four or
- 4:59Speaker 2: five minutes. It's just him just shredding, but not shredding,
- 5:02Speaker 2: doing mindless like that, you know that that type of stuff,
- 5:07Speaker 2: but it's like, you know, very you know, it's like
- 5:10Speaker 2: notes placed properly. He can play fast, but just I
- 5:14Speaker 2: love his phrasing and it's you know, melodic playing so
- 5:17Speaker 2: yes So Billy Corgan is absolutely one of my favorite guitarists.
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