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Women liberated, women most affected | Maintaining Frame 109 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome the Honey Badger Radio. I will be your host,
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  in a very poor way. But regardless of that, we have a new
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  show for you, Women Liberated, Women Most Affected, in which we respond
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  to some commentary by Tim Poole and Rachel Wilson on the nature of the changes
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  in the in the workplace and how they've affected and who is ultimately to blame
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  be up by Friday. All right, shall we just dive into it?
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  Yeah, let's get into it. So this is another clip from the same
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  show we covered. Let's see Monday, yesterday was Tuesday, today's Wednesday.
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  Yeah, on Monday, we're going through a clip from timcast or I think
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  it's Timpoole's tymcast and they were discussing women and stuff. And this is another
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  clip that I thought was it's actually a little bit metior. I think this
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  is a meteor clip, a better one that we could be looking at.
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  So let's just get into it from the beginning, and I'm going to play
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  it and just like speak up when you're ready to say something. So here
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  we go. Humanism is you get all the women out of the home and
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  into the workforce. You have twice as many incomes to tax. You have
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  kids that are in daycares and state run schools where you can give children the
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  values and the history that you want to give them. I don't think the
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  tax thing, the double taxation thing, is correct because if you have singular
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  income homes, the buying power you're taxing is the same, and so it
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  just led to rapid inflation. It's strained the workforce. I love this.
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  There's this graph that lefties like to show where it's like right around the end
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  of the seventies, you see wages. You see like inflation keep going up,
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  but wages stay the same, and they're like, what was this all
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  about. This is because they were going after unions, and it's like now
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  it'shen women under the workforce, competition among workers. Yeah, okay, well,
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  I think he's got a point with pushing back a bit on the whole
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  tax thing. I'm not so sure that inflation really is playing a big role
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  in that that that they wanted to get. I think when they bring in
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  more of the increase in spending that two incomes, two households creates, I
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  think that's where it lies. It creates, It creates increases the GDP.
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  You know how they'll say that if you break a window, you increase the
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  GDP, while if you break a marriage, you increase the GDP. Significantly,
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  So I think that's more of where it comes in. It's the it's
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  not the tax revenue, it's the flow of money. They need to keep
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  a high flow of money. They keep the money whipping around because that's what
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  actually gives. I believe the US dollar and all of the other subsidiary dollars
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  tied to it, their their actual value is the sheer volume at which they're
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  used. So if you think about it, if you're if basically what happens
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  is you give other like emerging economies, your money in exchange for their goods
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  if you are able to absorb whatever you send to them, like if you
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  if you buy I don't know, if you spend ten dollars for a sun
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  dress, that ten dollars is going to retain its value to the local economy
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  because a sun dress costs one thousand dollars in the US. That makes sense,
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  Like it's it's there will always be a higher demand for US dollars in
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  the US than anywhere else, which means that because of that higher demand,
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  it maintains the value everywhere else. I don't know if that makes sense,
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  but that's that's the way I see it. In my my analysis please tell
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  me if you understand what I'm saying. It is the volume of currency moving
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  that gives it Fiat currency its value. So the more you've got in the
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  air, the more balls you got juggling in the air, and more valuable
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  it is. If it slows down, it loses value. So the more
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  you have people exchanging money for goods instead of having a household in which all
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  labor is there's no exchange of money. Right, So if you pay a
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  maid, the GDP goes up. You have a stay at home wife,
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  it goes down. Does that makes sense? If you grow your own If
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  you grow your own vegetables, the GDP goes down. If you buy them
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  from whole foods, it goes up. You know, if you if you
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  the maybe GDP isn't really like the best measure of the quality of life.
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  It is absolutely not. No, I know, I know this is not.
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  Yeah. So and I don't know if like Temple was what did he
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  say GDP? Because I think that when women entered the workforce, it actually
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  did lower the average across the board men's men's income lowered significantly while women's raised
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  a bit relative income lower, But that's not what matters. As long as
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  they keep the money in motion. It doesn't matter that your your spending power
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  based on your income is like one one half what it was in seventy years
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  ago or is fifty years ago. That doesn't matter. They don't care about
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  the actual living standard of the average American. They care that you're moving money.
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  So if you are, if you if you have to spend now seven
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  hundred dollars to get an orange, that's better, and your your income is
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  is only like seventy thousand a month, that's better. You know that that
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  you are you're spending that or seven thousand a months, you're spending seven hundred
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  dollars on an orange. Then if in the seventies you were making seven hundred
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  bucks and spending seven cents on an orange, you know, it's like even
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  though the orange is now uh one of your income, because you're making seven
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  grand a month, you're spending seven hundred dollars in an orange just ten percent
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  of your income. It doesn't matter. And when you were in the seventies
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  it was only zero point one percent of your income. That doesn't matter.
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  The fact that you're moving seven thousand dollars a month, it does. That's
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  what matters to them, that's it. And so they will eat every bit
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  of the real value of your income just to keep that money moving. And
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  that's what we're seeing. And yeah, so the the whole idea, and
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  not only do is it higher? Does the GDP go up if you have
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  a maid instead of say, at home mom. The GDP goes up.
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  If you have to hire a carpenter instead of getting your husband to do it.
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  Right, the GDP goes up if you go to a mechanic instead of
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  your husband fixing your car. So any of these tasks, these these specific
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  tasks that women and men were inclined towards, you know, like in the
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  fifties and sixties, men would just generally know a little bit about mechanics,
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  a bit about carpentry, a bit about roofing, a bit about you know,
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  all of this stuff, and they would bring that expertise, not a
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  not a complete expertise. You'd still probably want to go and get a carpenter
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  for some things, right, but they would bring that so smaller jobs could
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  get done within the home. And then women would have their own types of
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  expertise that they would They wanted to get rid of that, so they said
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  all of that is sexist. Get rid of it. There should be no
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  exchange of goods that doesn't involve the money the fiat, you know, and
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  then that just increases the GDP. So yeah, tax revenue is one thing.
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  I think it's an element, but I think the bigger element is that
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  they are trying to maintain the value of a fiat currency because because the US
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  dollar has done something and all of the and I'm not singling out the US
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  dollar. Someone was like, oh my god, you're always a Canadian complaining
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  about the US. I this applies to all of the currencies that are tied
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  to the US dollar. That includes the Canadian dollar, includes the pound,
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  and includes the euro, all of them all. This includes every single country
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  that parasitizes on the US for its military budget. Every single one of those
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  currencies rely on that kind of movement in order to have value. And yeah,
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  I think that's the big thing here. And there's something even deeper.
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  I could take you another deeper level, but I don't know if you want
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  me to. I could go deeper. We can go deeper. Yeah,
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  yeah, we can just keep let's I don't think that's the I don't think
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  that's the baseline of this of this discussion in this video clip, it's about
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  whether I know, but it's it's this is this is about a girl bosses
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  and why, like what is the point of them? So let let's play
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  some girl bosses are just just a tip of the iceberg. We need to
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  dive into our deep in our submarine leagues and to the sea. See the
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  full the full picture. Okay, all right, I'll grab my Xbox controller
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  and we'll do that. All right, I'm gonna play this now. It's
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  doubled and that's going to depress wages guaranteed. Why do you think suddenly in
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  the nineteen seventies we saw this huge number of women enter the work hold on
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  Allison, you uh, you made a noise. Okay, I'm gonna play
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  it again. I gotta mute. Sorry, guys, No, no,
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  you're not mute. Just like, try not to be too squirrely and like,
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  yeah, try not to be squirrely. Okay, okay, let me
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  try not to be me. All right, I'm gonna play it now.
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  Workforce like they just organically decided I'm going back to I'm just going back a
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  little bit so that we can hear her point because I think it's a good
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  one, Okay, just guaranteed. Why do you think suddenly in the nineteen
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  seventies we saw this huge number of women enter the workforce like they just organically
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  decide, I did they loved careerism or do you think to do with all
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  the propaganda telling them that you need to have an education and have your own
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  money because if you don't, your vulnerable and your husband can abuse you.
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  And but we have to get a bit more reductive, because what what you're
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  saying is absolutely true. Where does this come from? And I blame men?
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  Weak men? Men are weak, Men continually grow weak. And an
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  element of what's going on with the feminism, I'll mention a lot of what
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  we're seeing is really really bad, like no fault divorce just basically meant marriage
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  us go ahead. We're gonna blame men, guys, I blame men.
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  I have a unique I have a unique and very novel approach to this.
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  I know women are making a lot of really bad choices, and I know
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  women are tearing this country apart, and I know that women are killing their
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  babies, and I know that women are voting for open borders destroy everything because
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  they're angry at like edgy boys on Twitter. But I think I'm gonna just
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  I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with blaming men, Bob, And why
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  can I I'll take what's behind door number. Let's blame men and let's see
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  what happens. I know, up until this point blaming men hasn't worked,
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  but I feel like it's a trick and actually this time it's gonna work.
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  This time. Okay, this time, oh man, yeah, I yeah,
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  this is like the week. Oh I hate that saying. Now it's
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  become so it's a thought terminating cliche. Strong men create strong systems, weak
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  men. Weak men create bad times, and bad times create strong men.
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  And then nowhere are women because women just don't exist, I guess, except
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  as rewards and measuring sticks to men's actions, you know. And it's like
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  the quote that I really like was from May West and she said when women
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  go bad, men go right after them. And I think that's more honest
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  to what's happening and what's going on. Yeah, I think that makes more
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  sense. She was smart. She understood human nature. I think yes,
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  she did. She understood human nature very well. And to quote the esteemable
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  al Bundi. Women understand women and they hate them. I don't want to
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  understand women. Women understand women and they hate them. Yes, may West
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  understood women, and she also understood men, and I think we've forgotten a
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  lot of that. And it's unfortunate and part part of the reason why I
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  forget it, because we can't seem to take get women to take responsibility for
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  anything. We're immediately defaulting on women went into the workforce. Who's to blame
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  men? How? What? What? What part of this is men's fault?
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  The fact they hired women? What were they supposed to do continue to
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  not hire women when it became illegal to discriminate against them? Like, what
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  the hell were men supposed to be? Like, Ah, I'm not going
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  to marry any man or any woman with a job, you know, like
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  you can't. Men can't be responsible for all of the actions of a group
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  of people who are now the majority electorate and have been since the sixties,
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  like they It's it's just not possible. Even even if you just replaced women
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  with with with them boys, men still couldn't be responsible for the actions of
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  the femboys. But possibly Tim would be able to see that, possibly in
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  the analysis of agency, femboy ranks higher than women. Sometimes I think he's
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  playing Devil's advocate a lot, like he doesn't want it to turn into you
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  know, I don't know, like a like a jerk, like a circle
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  jerk. But at the same time, though, like I mean really,
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  like how long have we been doing this? Yeah, go ahead. I
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  mean he's had he's had on guys from the say, red Pill space on
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  his show, so I don't you know, I don't want to name names
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  because people get triggered, but like he's had people on that have made explicitly
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  clear what the problem is in our society with relationships, with marriage, divorce,
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  family, fotherlessness, et cetera. And it just seems like there's just
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  a hole in his mind right now because he's making this like I blame men,
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  And it's almost like, well, did you want men to just crack
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  down on women? Just crack down on him, because I mean, like
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  I'm sure, like I think that it could get to that point where there
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  will be a class of men that is going to be like, done with
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  the bullshit, we're cracking down. You are now officially oppressed. Here are
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  your shackles. But when that happens, the women are going to be like,
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  look see, this is what men are like. So it's like you
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  can't win. You can't win, like you just have to like hope.
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  But basically, the only tool I think that we have at this stage is
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  women shaming women. That's that's what we got, and I think it's working.
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  I think that it's good, you know, and men just checking out
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  and women basically telling other women to shape up. I think that's what it
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  is, because like, what's the female version of failure to launch? What
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  is that? Because like failure to launch when when men are like they're they're
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  middle age and they're still at home with their parents and live in their mom's
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  basement and they you know, they they watch porn, play video games all
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  day, let's say, and people are saying, look, you know,
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  this isn't good for you. It's not just because you're not serving society,
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  but it's also not good for you because it's gonna make you. You're not
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  gonna get better. You have to like do something right. We will engage
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  in shaming in those guys to get them to change their lifestyle so that it
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  is better not just sports the greater society, but for themselves, and we
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  call it something. We call it failure to launch, we call it man
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  children, whatever. And I think that it's While I'm not generally in favor
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  of judging a person for their interests or hobbies, I don't do that because
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  I have nerdy hobbies too, I do think that in the long run it's
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  probably good for them because if they stay that way, they it's they're just
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  gonna self destruct. But what we don't have is a is a version of
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  that for women, and maybe we should maybe we should have something like that
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  for women, like we we have Cat Lady, but like it doesn't seem
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  to have the same sting to it, you know. Plus I wouldn't wish
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  that on cats. You know, I just wanted to get in there.
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  There's a I think there's a slight technical difficulty for some reason. It's just
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  focusing on me instead of showing you. Oh. I don't know why that
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  is, but it's it's fine. It's probably the macro is a little it's
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  a little a little bit unresponsive, or maybe my volume isn't loud enough.
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  Yeah, well, switched over now, I don't know, did you actually
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  switch it over or no? I think me just switched over now, so
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  it's working now. Oh I did that, That's why I switched silver.
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  Yeah, just maybe be careful with that because it seems like it's loving me
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  for some reason today. And I don't know, I put you at a
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  higher priority. Maybe you do to well. I mean I can only do
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  like one step, so either I'm the higher So yeah, okay, so
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  I just need to shut my mouth. Well, let's let's play more of
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  the video. You're dating now, that's it. You're you're dating with a
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  special placard from the government. But you can just leave it any moment.
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  That's ridiculous. Yes, and these are bad things. However, you know
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  all these guys that are watching these anti women channel, Like, you know,
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  I try it to be a dick to people who want to figure out
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  a better their lives. Like if I see a guy going to the gym,
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  I'm gonna tell like in his fat and wait or whatever he's struggling,
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  I'm gonna be like, bro, you got this, you know what I
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  mean. So I see these guys who are watching these channels, and part
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  of me is just like, that's stupid. But I'm not gonna handle a
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  guy who's actually actively investigating. They may not understand completely, but they're like,
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  why is this thing happening? But I'll just put it this way.
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  Part of what we're saying it's actually good. You know why weak men will
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  fail and they deserve to fail. And okay, but weak men, weak
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  men apparently are Western men, Like in this analysis, they are the ones
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  who are not being apparently their women are not finding them attractive. So what
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  will happen when when Western men fail? Western society will go with it?
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  So I guess it was nice while it lasted. Like what is meant by
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  that? What is meant by weak men will fail? They deserve to fail?
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  Again? Like what does that mean? Because if it just means women
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  aren't picking them and those men are doing their best, because like I think
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  that this is what I think Tim is doing. He's kind of he's kind
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  of like he's finding the men who are let's say, the least ambitious and
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  he's saying that that's that's all the men who are not finding partners. But
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  women are not picking from not only the least productive or the least successful men,
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  they're also not picking like the ones who are reasonably successful, even the
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  ones who might own their own business a small one, right, or someone
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  who's like solidly pursuing the middle class, while women, by the way,
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  vote to make the middle class vanish with their choices. But nonetheless, and
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  those women are only selecting the top top, top top men and so that
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  means it all, Like, does that mean that ninety percent or eighty five
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  percent of men are just failures that deserve to fail because that we are,
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  like we're moving towards a Harem model right now where women are willing to share,
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  like you know, a man amongst a number of them. Is that
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  the kind of society that we want to live in? Like can we not?
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  Can we not say that? Like women are being unreasonable? Like I
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  mean, there are plenty of people calling them out Femsapien says she has a
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  problem with western modern western women and it's the entitlement and this, and they're
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  spoiled. And for whatever reason, Tim wants to do everything but say that.
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  But maybe Rachel does. Can't remember I think she does. Do you
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  want to say something else? And I know you're trying to I'm trying to
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  stay muted when I'm not talking, just because well, again, the honest
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  to god truth is that Western society is failing to make its men attractive.
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  I mean, you can say it's because they're weak, but I mean,
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  honestly, how much much do men have to overcome? They have to overcome
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  an institutionalized narrative that their existence is a net loss for women, like that
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  they are terrible partners, that women are less happy with them, which is
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  not true. They're actually more happy, as married women are more happy than
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  single. But what is the quorra the top quor I answer, oh,
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  single women are more happy. Can complete defiance of the actual statistics. So
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  we are actively lying to women about men's worth in partnerships, and he's saying
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  that as a result, women are not choosing men because they've been lied to.
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  Honestly, in part, they're not choosing men because they've been told that,
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  Well, they've been told that men are terrible oppressors. And what are
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  they going in dating? They're going to going and dating who they've been told
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  men are. Who they've been told this is masculinity, this is manhood.
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  It's the top five percent that can treat them as disposed. Right, Well,
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  that's what they're they're doing, and it's all as a result of a
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  whole bunch of lies, and men aren't able to combat those lies, and
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  he's saying that that makes them weak. Well, really nothing has changed that
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  much about men. They're now subject to a society wide narrative that they're they're
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  a worthless option, and a society wide lie about men, and women are
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  not selecting men because they have bought into the lie. And it's almost like
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  men have nothing to do with it. To may they were just trucking along,
• 24:38
  keeping society running, doing the work, buying their their wives a whole
• 24:42
  bunch of leisure time, which apparently women will never forgive men for in the
• 24:47
  fifties and sixties, and then suddenly there was this rise of this narrative,
• 24:53
  this sales pitch about how horrible they were, and then suddenly they're undesirable as
• 24:59
  partners because women are buying into the sales pitch. At what point does this
• 25:03
  make when weak Like I don't understand that, I don't understand the idea that
• 25:11
  the weak men are going to lose out. But when it was not something
• 25:15
  men did, it was society constructing this narrative. And now only the only
• 25:23
  men who women will consider are men who have all of like the social proof
• 25:30
  of being desired by other women and are in like the top ten percent.
• 25:33
  That's the only ones that they will allow because they think that men are such
• 25:37
  a detriment that they have to you know, they have to pile on all
• 25:41
  of the other stuff in the other side of the you know, the scale
• 25:45
  in order to be worth it. You know, that's really and we've raised
• 25:49
  the bar of what men have to be in order to be worth it,
• 25:53
  and not because the average man is less average than the average woman, just
• 26:00
  because we've decided to embrace the society knight wide threat narrative about men and lie
• 26:04
  about their worth of as partners. You know, it's just okay, And
• 26:11
  that's I don't know what he means by weak men here? How is this
• 26:15
  veil weakness? I mean, okay, fair enough, Let's let's lean into
• 26:22
  the weakness, let's not hide from it. And I apologize if this gets
• 26:25
  insulting. Yes, men are less powerful when it comes to creating a social
• 26:34
  MELEEU than women. Women set the emotional tenor. This is something that I
• 26:41
  have noticed constantly. Right, women will dominate informal discussions, they dominate social
• 26:48
  media, they dominate things based on their sensibilities. They are the dominant sex
• 26:56
  when it comes to the social atmosphere and also the social perception of the other
• 27:02
  sex. So they in some ways not they don't necessarily dominate men's identity,
• 27:07
  but they dominate the perception of men's identity in the social sphere. So yeah,
• 27:14
  maybe men are weak because they're up against women who are strong in a
• 27:22
  particular way. And our society is now revolving around that that, you know,
• 27:29
  like the where is the big where are the discussions taking place? Twitter?
• 27:33
  Who dominates Twitter? Women? Right? You know, it's no longer
• 27:37
  in the commons, Yes, other than other than right after cat tird is
• 27:41
  women is cat heird than women? Cat third than women. So women sort
• 27:48
  of dominate Facebook. It's all about these these online social media areas, and
• 27:55
  they are indeed dominated by women. I guess YouTube is more dominated by men
• 28:00
  because women are dominant when it comes to these social factors. Period the end,
• 28:07
  full stop. Can we just allow that acceptance of reality. But now
• 28:14
  that we understand that women are dominant in a particular way, they have power
• 28:18
  in a particular way. Men's men's issues advocates have said this, you know
• 28:22
  what we need women talking about these things because they get heard, and one
• 28:27
  hundred percent I agree with that. I feel it's unfortunate, but it's true.
• 28:32
  And I mean I can fight that reality or I can just lean into
• 28:36
  it. But we have the situation where women have a power. They have
• 28:40
  power of the social landscape that men don't. We can continue to call women
• 28:44
  men weak because of this patent reality that has existence at the dawn of time,
• 28:49
  or we can say to women, what the hell are you doing?
• 28:56
  You have power, It's time to take responsibility for it and just recognize that
• 29:02
  at this point in time. What are men supposed to do? Are they
• 29:04
  supposed to just slap women's smartphones out of their hands? Like? Is that?
• 29:11
  I mean, what is non week in this context? Is it a
• 29:14
  guy just going down the street of like I don't know, New York and
• 29:17
  just slapping cell phones and crushing them. I don't know, Like, what
• 29:22
  what are men supposed to do? Are they supposed to order women back to
• 29:26
  the kitchen? And what if they do? Tim? Are you okay with
• 29:30
  that? Are you okay with the necessity of what would need to happen in
• 29:33
  order for men to have the authority? Commiserate with the responsibility you're putting on
• 29:41
  them. Would you be okay with that? Are you okay with a red
• 29:45
  bill bro saying yeah, Well, a husband should be able to determine when
• 29:49
  and where a woman gets on social media, and husband and fathers should be
• 29:53
  able to just cut off girls' social media and and all this? Are you
• 29:59
  are you? Are you going to accept men's authority or you just giving them
• 30:03
  responsibility? And guess what if you do not give men commiserate authority when you
• 30:08
  say that everything is happening because of weak men, when you give them this
• 30:12
  responsibility, you're just blaming them to no avail. You're you're making mouth noises
• 30:21
  that make you feel better, but do nothing. Okay, all right,
• 30:27
  let's watch some more a little bit. I will mock their failure. Well,
• 30:33
  what about Acolyte star Wars sucks? I mean this does I watch it?
• 30:37
  And where are the strong men to lift the burdens and the heavy rocks
• 30:41
  to make good stuff? So here's what I'm saying. You got a bunch
• 30:47
  of guys that are sitting online overweight. And again I'm not making fun of
• 30:52
  everybody's overweight, saying everybody's overweight is a failure. Is the problem all right,
• 30:56
  So again, what is his solution here aside from blaming men, which
• 31:02
  is nonsense. It's just basically saying, let's throw this entire problem into the
• 31:06
  hole of let's not do anything. That's what blaming men does. At this
• 31:10
  point, it's just like, I don't like this problem. Framing this problem
• 31:12
  in a way is making me feel a little bit uncomfortable and tingly in a
• 31:15
  weird way. So I'm just gonna throw it into the chasm of men are
• 31:18
  to blame and not so we don't have to think about it. But like,
• 31:22
  seriously, now he's going after men online. Okay, well, who
• 31:25
  the hell else is going to deal with the problem of women being online creating
• 31:32
  this social and social or reinforcing this landscape that men are worthless. You know
• 31:37
  what, I should shut up. Maybe he comes maybe he comes out of
• 31:41
  nowhere with like a huge solution. H No, I mean I think Tim
• 31:47
  is. I think he makes a mistake that a lot of people make.
• 31:48
  Is they they they look at where there might be chinks in like their their
• 31:57
  preconceived notion of what a healthy society is supposed to look like. They target
• 32:02
  those and then they criticize them because if Tim's issue is that there are people
• 32:07
  doing things online. Tim you do things online like you know the the I
• 32:15
  don't know if they're gonna do this, but can I just say that people
• 32:17
  who blame the Internet for the world's problems, or blame social media or blame
• 32:22
  Twitter, that's a boomer argument. I'm tired of it. It's a boomer
• 32:27
  argument. It's it's cringe. Stop doing it. It's gay. I'm not
• 32:31
  a fan because if it weren't for the Internet, like, there's so much
• 32:35
  that we wouldn't have. In fact, it is a net positive, full
• 32:38
  stop, period. And your problem with the Internet and your problem with social
• 32:43
  media is actually a problem with people, because the what makes the social media
• 32:49
  are the people. So stop making the Internet is bad argument. It's gay
• 32:54
  and lame and cringe. Okay, So let's play more. Who are not
• 33:00
  trying to better themselves, Who are not trying to exercise, who are not
• 33:04
  cleaning the cheetos off their off their mustache, who aren't n that's round,
• 33:08
  I'm looking at you. They're not wiping their own pa. They know that
• 33:12
  I do eat a lot of cheetos and stuff. What we're seeing right now
• 33:16
  is for one, we can go back one hundred years, two hundred years
• 33:21
  and talk about suffrage, and it was weak men across the board who kept
• 33:24
  bending the knee and could not maintain social order. They just gave up.
• 33:30
  But I look at whoa, whoa, So okay, well, I mean
• 33:37
  it was mostly women who oppose the suffrage, but and then it was just
• 33:43
  male politicians, so weak men who gave women the suffrage. That's a real
• 33:47
  geez. That's a that's when hell of a. It is a bit of
• 33:53
  a red pill, it's true. But again it's one of these as are
• 34:00
  you are you? Yeah, and you're still blaming men at the end of
• 34:01
  the day, right, That's that's the that's the end goal, because because
• 34:06
  you wouldn't want to sit there and say, well, frankly, I don't
• 34:07
  think we should have gave women the vote. But then now now you are
• 34:12
  the bad guy, right, so instead just say, ah, it's the
• 34:14
  weakness, and then the ladies are like leaning in, like what are you
• 34:16
  going to say of men? Ah, yes, that's right, it is
• 34:22
  men's fault. As long as it's men's fault, you can actually blame that
• 34:24
  women shouldn't have rights, and then it's men's fault that they have them.
• 34:28
  You could just blame men. You know, as long as you're blaming men,
• 34:31
  everything else is okay. Yeah, as long as you're blaming well,
• 34:35
  what is Islam? I'm sorry you women apparently well far fewer rights than the
• 34:39
  West. But I wouldn't say that it's necessarily woman hatred. But you know,
• 34:44
  you blame men, you give women no rights. There you go,
• 34:47
  this is going to be the excuse. Like, I mean, honestly,
• 34:51
  did you notice that though It's like we're having this discussion and it's it's it's
• 34:55
  it's happening in the negative space of let's blame men. But he is essentially
• 35:00
  saying that that women's suffrage is a bad thing. He's kind of framing it
• 35:05
  that way. That's probably because he knows that some people like Rachel Wilson would
• 35:09
  agree with him. But the thing is is that it's the framing. The
• 35:13
  framing is it's still putting it on men. And it's like, yeah,
• 35:17
  but now, like now that women are in the position where they could say,
• 35:22
  you know, we should revisit this thing, maybe the idea of universal
• 35:25
  suffrage, not just women suffrage, is universal suffrage in general. Maybe that's
• 35:30
  a bad idea, and maybe we should like back off on that because there
• 35:34
  are people who don't, who don't have like a duty to do to make
• 35:38
  a choice that is right for a given nation and vote in a way that
• 35:44
  is both good for you know, the nation as a whole as well as
• 35:46
  the future generations that will live here. No, instead, the women are
• 35:52
  like, we should get younger people to vote. We should get like people
• 35:55
  who don't who we've never lived here before, that just crossed the border to
• 35:59
  vote. I mean, like kre Starma, kir Starmers that his name from
• 36:04
  the UK government, the new prime minister. They're like, we have a
• 36:07
  solution to the immigration problem, the mass migration problem. We're just gonna make
• 36:10
  them all citizens. Problem solved. Great. And of course the women they're
• 36:15
  not they don't have a problem with that. I mean they don't. They
• 36:19
  don't like getting cat called on the street or getting like like followed by by
• 36:23
  foreign men that don't speak their language. But and they'll complain about that.
• 36:27
  But you see, that's not a problem of people with vastly different cultures and
• 36:31
  different and different religions and different ideologies that are not at all compatible with the
• 36:36
  West. No, no, No, The problem is that those are men,
• 36:39
  so like, so that's the problem, right, So we just got
• 36:43
  to do something about all the men even and then basically we're gonna treat the
• 36:46
  men from third world countries the same way as we do our own native born
• 36:51
  men. It's they're all men at the end of the day. And that's
• 36:53
  literally what's happening in the UK and and will happen in France. So I
• 37:00
  just wanted to say when you spoke about women, just sort of extending the
• 37:05
  vote to more and more groups of people instead of thinking about how you need
• 37:09
  to use the vote in order to preserve and maintain society and serve the system
• 37:17
  that serves us. It just occurred to me that this is actually a very
• 37:22
  feminine quality. They get a resource like the vote, and they want to
• 37:28
  bring it and distribute it to the people that they perceive who are in need.
• 37:32
  So, if you think about it, the man brings home the mast
• 37:35
  on and the woman cuts it up and gives it all to all the kill,
• 37:39
  the kids, and the elderly, all the vulnerable groups, right,
• 37:43
  And that's the way that they're approaching the vote, when the vote is by
• 37:45
  definition a responsibility to make sure that society is run in the right way or
• 37:52
  sustained. Sustained. Yeah, they just think it's like it's like they just
• 37:55
  got a bowl of candy and they're like, well, I can't have all
• 37:59
  this candy to myself. Share the candy exactly. It's yeah, it's it's
• 38:05
  the future. But it's at the same time as it's like you got you
• 38:09
  are you are. This is not a good idea, you know. There
• 38:15
  Honestly, there should be something, some kind of way of saying, well,
• 38:20
  this person should have a say in the state. This person maybe shouldn't
• 38:22
  have a say in the state. And they want to get rid of all
• 38:27
  of the forms of merit or at least the forms of constructing not necessarily a
• 38:34
  hierarchy, but finding out if the person actually is invested in the state,
• 38:37
  or if they're going to import their form like wars into the state. They're
• 38:42
  going to see our the state that we have as just another means for something
• 38:45
  else, like a tool to keep perpetuating their own vision, right, and
• 38:53
  we we don't have anything like but any kind of qualification, any kind of
• 38:58
  merit, any kind of expectation, any kind of standard that you had to
• 39:00
  be held to. They want to break it all down, and they want
• 39:02
  to break it all down because they're thinking in terms of we need to provide
• 39:07
  for the kids and the elderly and the vulnerable. And that's not bad in
• 39:12
  and of itself. It's just not the place for it. It's not it's
• 39:19
  not the sentiment, it's the it's the the action is irresponsible, and of
• 39:22
  course it is, because again, the consequences they're probably they're they're they're very
• 39:29
  far removed from them in the immediate. Eventually there will be and they'll be
• 39:34
  like, oh, this happened, but like they don't know when, like
• 39:37
  in the moment, they're just like, I'm just being nice. Right.
• 39:39
  So anyway, I got I got some uh, some things to read out
• 39:44
  that people shelled out they're harder and cash for. So I'm going to read
• 39:47
  those out. That will continue the video. Richard Bierre gives us five bucks
• 39:52
  and says having women police the moral behavior of other women has more often than
• 39:55
  not had some undesirable outcomes, and either because the extreme of the Salem witch
• 40:00
  trials or in modern times, that female HOA board member who will find the
• 40:07
  most trivial things to declare a violation of the HOA rules that she can harass
• 40:12
  the neighborhood over as an expression of her authority. So if she becomes the
• 40:15
  female Eric Cartman going about saying respect my authority and possibly whacking everyone in the
• 40:22
  shins with her police baton, well you can't make an omelet without breaking a
• 40:28
  few eggs. I'm sorry, but you have to deal with those consequences.
• 40:30
  It seems to me that that's a worthy trade off to preserve our civilization for
• 40:37
  like at least another eight years. So I mean women could also stop being
• 40:43
  cunts and change their ways. That would be a solution I am open to,
• 40:49
  Like, we can table this discussion on women not being cunts and then
• 40:52
  we'd be fine. But I mean, if they're gonna be that, we're
• 40:55
  gonna have to get women out here that are countier to be that way towards
• 41:00
  them so that they stop acting like kunts. This video will not be bonetized.
• 41:08
  Gives a dollar on? Can I resconde to that? Yeah? Okay,
• 41:12
  all right, well there is that, But then there's also someone actually
• 41:15
  in our discord. One of the patrons described this, there was a sort
• 41:20
  of a bus stop or arrest area where in his neighborhood, where a whole
• 41:24
  bunch of homeless people congregated, you know, and because they really had nowhere
• 41:30
  else to go. And every week I think it was like a there's like
• 41:36
  a like a community center or something. There would be women complaining about it.
• 41:40
  Karen's complaining about this. The situation and what ended up happening is one
• 41:47
  of the I think I might have been. I don't know what particular denomination
• 41:52
  she was. She might have been maybe even United or something, but there
• 41:58
  was an old, older woman who every day would go and bring them soup
• 42:02
  and sandwiches, the homeless people, and just by doing that, she managed
• 42:09
  to shut up dozens of Karens. Like they went like all the complaints disappeared,
• 42:16
  right, Yeah, the Karens were saying, we need bylaws against these
• 42:21
  homeless people. And then so I asked the guy, Okay, so what
• 42:25
  happened. Did they have a by law against homeless people and men andite women
• 42:29
  like feeding them or I don't know what she was, maybe she was United,
• 42:32
  who knows, or Christian women feeding them and she's like He's like no,
• 42:37
  this woman shut them all up. So depending on how it's done,
• 42:42
  it doesn't have to be cunty. It's like, you know, you can
• 42:45
  get men who use their greater physical strength, their focus on altruistic punishment,
• 42:53
  their higher level of risk tolerance for good things, and you can get them
• 42:59
  men who do it for bad things in different ways than women who do it
• 43:01
  for bad things, right, same thing with women. You can get women
• 43:07
  who are judgmental, authoritarian, and then you can get women who understand things
• 43:14
  like using their their service, their gratitude, and their compassion in ways that
• 43:23
  change the social landscape to the better, you know. So it's it's it's
• 43:29
  it's it's just a situation where, yeah, it can be done badly,
• 43:32
  but I think it's honestly, it's not even a situation where we'll all we
• 43:37
  can't let women do it. It's like women will do it. Will be
• 43:39
  women who do this almost invariably. So the question is do we have the
• 43:45
  means to make it less of column A county and more of column B compassion,
• 43:52
  you know, and how do we how do we develop that? And
• 43:57
  constantly blaming men is just basically saying I'm not going to deal with the problem.
• 44:00
  So all right, all right, let's play more of the video.
• 44:06
  Here we go, and I'm like, well, look, it's interesting.
• 44:13
  Maybe what's happening needs to happen. This is natural selection. A society has
• 44:17
  emerged because men became weaker and weaker. They could not provide for what women
• 44:22
  wanted, and they could not provide stability in social order. Okay, but
• 44:27
  examples you're saying is men have not controlled women. So what you're saying is
• 44:31
  men were too weak, they did not control women. Women created this.
• 44:36
  This men's fault, men's fault. Are you prepared to give women men the
• 44:39
  authority to enact their control. Are you prepared to support men like I mean,
• 44:45
  I didn't realize that Tim Poole had become an extreme conservative, super like
• 44:52
  fundamental He's not even like, you know, a sort of a cat visual
• 45:00
  Muslim. He's like he's going, he's going speed running into like fundamentalist,
• 45:07
  you know, the center of the desert Islam. He's like Tim him.
• 45:14
  Yeah, that's what what are you saying? Are you saying if you're gonna
• 45:19
  say men are responsible for not establishing these boundaries, are you saying that men
• 45:23
  should have the authority to do so? Right? Should men claim the authority
• 45:29
  to like this guy? If you think about it, if you look at
• 45:31
  the negative space that Tim Poole is constructing. He's like a super Andrew Tate.
• 45:40
  Like if you think, like, how is this different, then then
• 45:44
  I don't think Andrew Tate would even have said that. Honestly, I don't
• 45:47
  I think he. I I haven't seen anything, So I think he's beyond
• 45:52
  that. He's beyond that. You understand. You understand this when you stop
• 45:57
  just hearing men are responsible and you start hearing, well, this is the
• 46:01
  authority that men should have because like, just hear it when he's saying these
• 46:06
  things. Let's let's keep going, all right. I forgot to read the
• 46:08
  rumble ram from before. Yeah, I should should do a shout out.
• 46:15
  Okay, yeah, Richard, let me do the let me do the the
• 46:17
  Nova Fan because he sent it a while ago, so he gave us a
• 46:21
  dollar. Thank you. Nova Fan says. The only men I blame are
• 46:23
  the ones who defend evil women's actions when good men try to hold women accountable.
• 46:28
  I do not blame men for withdrawing from this dysfunctional society. Yeah,
• 46:32
  I mean I think Tim could, because I would agree that male weakness exists,
• 46:37
  and male weakness in positions of authority that ben the need women is a
• 46:45
  problem. But the problem is that Tim is miss he is getting He's blaming
• 46:50
  the wrong group of men. I think the men who are online that are
• 46:55
  talking about this stuff, I think they're frustrated and angry, and they have
• 47:00
  every right to be. I think that people like panicking and getting all like,
• 47:04
  getting all like in their feelings when they find that there are men who
• 47:07
  are who have negative emotions because of the way they've been treated for like their
• 47:12
  entire life. I think they need to get a life. And girls,
• 47:15
  fine, those people, not the men, and that maybe the men that
• 47:19
  you should be calling weak are these male feminists and tremendous positions of power that
• 47:23
  are basically like saying we should just give everything up. Maybe the men in
• 47:27
  the United Nations, Maybe the men at the World Economic Forum, right,
• 47:30
  Maybe the men who like run these universities. Maybe the men in media positions.
• 47:35
  Maybe the men who are who you know, like the guy who directed
• 47:37
  the Ghostbuster's remake or something like those men. I'm gonna say something, all
• 47:42
  right. So I've been reading this book. It's called Manhood in the Main
• 47:45
  Game Cultural Concepts of Masculinity, and one of the conclusions of this book is
• 47:51
  that a critical and almost universal quality of manhood is generosity, right, big
• 47:58
  men, the big men of Papua New Guinea, they're very generous. They
• 48:01
  are able to coordinate lots of things to give, have big generous parties and
• 48:07
  give things to the people who support them. So a man is seen as
• 48:13
  being a big man when he's able to give a lot, and he's able
• 48:16
  to produce a lot and give a lot. And I mean, and that's
• 48:22
  more like in the economic level they also have them like a military component.
• 48:27
  But there's this quality of generosity and sacrifice the manhood throughout the world. Right
• 48:34
  now, what Tim Poole is saying is that in our cultural well, first
• 48:38
  of all, let me frame it before I get into exactly what he's saying.
• 48:42
  In our cultural concept, rights are seen as things that men give women
• 48:50
  rights and freedoms. So if you're going to be a generous man, you
• 48:53
  give women lots of rights and freedoms, you give women services, you give
• 48:59
  women all of these things. That's being a big man in our society is
• 49:02
  giving women everything they ask for, whether it be freedoms, whether it be
• 49:07
  welfare, whether it be services. Because you know, you have this very
• 49:12
  idea of this of lower class men being brutish whatever. That's being a big
• 49:16
  man in our society. So what Tim is saying is that the end result
• 49:22
  of all of these big men being big men is weakness. And it's like,
• 49:30
  no, the problem is our conception of what a big man is in
• 49:37
  our society. A big man allows his woman to do whatever he wants she
• 49:42
  wants. A big man is able to fund whatever lifestyle she desires. A
• 49:47
  big man pays the bill for her eighteen friends when she goes out on her
• 49:52
  birthday. A big man gives women whatever rights they want. A big man
• 49:58
  steps up andampions all of this female only scholarships and die initiatives. A big
• 50:07
  man advocates for all of the monolithic infant classes that women identify. That's what
• 50:15
  a big man is in our society. And he's saying that that's weak.
• 50:21
  Well, but women define in many ways, women define what generosity is in
• 50:27
  men, and so you know, it's like the fact that men are responding
• 50:30
  to how women have defined what a big man is and what generosity is in
• 50:35
  men? Is that really on men? And the other thing is is if
• 50:39
  he's going to say that a man who is generous in this way is a
• 50:44
  weak man, what is he saying a strong man is is a strong man.
• 50:50
  A man who denies women their rights is a strong man. A man
• 50:53
  who takes away welfare is a strong man. A man who refuses to give
• 50:59
  women only nurseries and scholarships is a strong man. A man who squelches all
• 51:05
  D E D E I is a strong man. A man who punches uh
• 51:08
  smartphones out of the hands of women. And you know, as he goes
• 51:12
  down New York Street, you know, is this a strong man? Like?
• 51:19
  Because okay, all right, I will I'll step off my my soapbox
• 51:22
  because I've said quite a bit. I just want to remind everyone to send
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  your super chows through Feedbadger dot com slash just a tip too, because it's
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  I know, it's hump day and nobody wants to do anything or think.
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  We just all want to sit here in a puddle of of of inert goo.
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  But please do send those those super chows Feed the Badger. Mike,
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  Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. Okay, I got into the super
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  chow from Richard Beerre for five dollars, and he says it is far easier
• 51:57
  to get a redneck to not keep looking at that bat boat with the glitter
• 52:00
  finished clearcoat at the bass pro Shop or Cabellas. Then it would be to
• 52:06
  convince these modern enlightened women to not be abject the words I don't want to
• 52:12
  say it see ulex tuesdays, to see you next tuesdays. Thank you?
• 52:16
  All right, let's uh, let's play some more of this. My pointer,
• 52:22
  I lost it. I have these fractured systems where young men sit around
• 52:27
  complaining on the internet, removing themselves in the dating pool, complaining they can't
• 52:30
  get in. Meanwhile, I know dudes who are swimming and women and they're
• 52:35
  short and they're wealthy. Because these guys are like, here are the cards
• 52:38
  I'm holding in my hand. I am going to figure out how to maximize
• 52:42
  my capabilities with this. If you know, you look at the it's funny.
• 52:49
  He's like, yeah, just be rich, be be rich. Guys,
• 52:52
  what are you doing problem? Here's the problem. Whatever, all the
• 52:57
  men are rich rich is the average, and we're back to square. Yeah,
• 53:00
  then we're back to women going hmm, I think I can do better.
• 53:04
  Yes, So somehow men have to be able to slap the metaphorically slap
• 53:10
  the smartphone out of the woman's hands and that is the Oh, I think
• 53:14
  I could do better somehow. And the funny thing is is that a lot
• 53:17
  of this isn't even men, Like it isn't there even really about men.
• 53:22
  I mean, he's really focused on it because he wants to blame them,
• 53:23
  and I think it's mostly because he just wants to deflect this problem. Yeah,
• 53:29
  I mean, like, well, I think that we're so I'm looking
• 53:31
  I'm trying to look at it in the context of the broader conversation. And
• 53:35
  so you have like you have like Alex Stein, who's like super blue pill
• 53:38
  conservative guy. It's like, well, I think women should be able to
• 53:40
  like do whatever, you know, like it's fine. And then you have
• 53:45
  like Rachel Wilson who's like a hardcore patriarchist that's what she calls herself. So
• 53:49
  she's like, we need a patriarchy, right, not the feminist definition,
• 53:52
  but her definition. And then there's another woman who's kind of like, you
• 53:55
  know, middle ground, doesn't really have a strong opinion but anything. And
• 54:00
  I think Tim is trying to match Rachel Wilson's energy in the opposite direction so
• 54:06
  that it fosters a more like I don't know, energized discussion, but he
• 54:12
  seems to believe what he says a lot, so it's not like he's just
• 54:15
  making shit up to be contrarian. You know, That's what I think.
• 54:19
  So, yeah, he's like fighting with like kind of fighting with a strong
• 54:22
  man, honestly, because I mean, Rachel's not making any of these claims
• 54:27
  either. You know, So, but were you say that women are to
• 54:31
  blame for everything? But can they be to blame for what they are to
• 54:35
  blame for? Yeah? Right? The thing is that I'm like, I
• 54:38
  had this exchange. I don't even think he was a feminist. I think
• 54:42
  it might have been a conservative. And I was like, Okay, so
• 54:44
  we have blamed men for how long can we blame women for something? And
• 54:49
  he's like, wow, we get nothing out of blaming an entire sex.
• 54:52
  I'm like, so we'll just continue to blame men. Then he's like,
• 54:55
  yes, no, so freaking to where? Yes? Whatsoever? Oh?
• 55:06
  Man? All right, I got a super chat. Thank you to We
• 55:09
  can't blame we can't blame agenders. That's why we have to continue to blame
• 55:14
  men. We can't blame it's not fair to blame everybody in a gender.
• 55:19
  That's why we've got to continue to blame men, yes, swear all right.
• 55:25
  The chaos one X gave us two dollars and says women most affected,
• 55:29
  Women most affected. That's right. It's a self self perpetuating cycle. When
• 55:37
  women are affected, they are in fact affected, which means and they are
• 55:42
  in due course affected and it never ends. It's like if you tie.
• 55:47
  If you take a slice of bread and you put butter on one side and
• 55:52
  you wrap it around a cat, and you have the butter facing up and
• 55:55
  the cats standing, and you throw it, it'll spit because cat's always land
• 56:00
  on their feet and buttered bread always lands face down. It'll spin, you
• 56:06
  know, yeah, it'll spin infinitely. This is what the effect of women
• 56:09
  most affected is. It's a it's a never ending loop. All right.
• 56:14
  Anyway, let's play the video. A lot of these chanels have to highlight
• 56:20
  these dating apps where women they only want the top twentieth percent tyle of attractive
• 56:23
  men, and so that means eighty percent of matters out of the dating pool.
• 56:28
  And I look at that and I'm like, sucks for you. I
• 56:30
  guess, dude, I don't know how many times you got to read Jordan
• 56:32
  Peterson's book to figure out you don't just get to exist and get a woman.
• 56:37
  Oh good lord, wait, but don't don't women just get to exist?
• 56:44
  Well, no, it's the going, you know what, eighty percent
• 56:46
  of men. And by the way, that play of fish thing, that's
• 56:51
  just the percentage of men that get a date. That's not necessarily the percentage
• 56:55
  of men that get a relationship. Not that I think they should be doing
• 56:59
  it on sites, all right. So, from my view of history,
• 57:05
  societies work when they get the most amount of their young men invested in them,
• 57:10
  usually by getting them prospects in terms of relationships. And when they start
• 57:16
  to fail is when young men cease to have prospects because they don't have in
• 57:22
  place what is necessarily necessary to have families, to feed their families, et
• 57:25
  cetera. So, for example, the economic changes in Rome in which the
• 57:34
  average man no longer really had any potential of having his own land and being
• 57:38
  a farmer because he was coe compeding against megafarms run by you know, owned
• 57:45
  by very very rich families and basically run by slaves. Right, Okay,
• 57:53
  When that happens, a society starts to deteriorate. So when a society no
• 58:00
  longer is capable of making the average man attractive to the average woman. It's
• 58:05
  done for And what he's saying is that he's just putting the blame on men.
• 58:12
  He's putting on the blame on men and not putting it on the fact
• 58:15
  that our system has no longer providing the one thing that keeps the society alive,
• 58:23
  which is young men's connection to it. And it's like, well,
• 58:27
  you can say, wow, men don't earn it because they're weak and whatever
• 58:30
  else, but it doesn't matter because at the end of the day, all
• 58:34
  of these men are going to eventually have to go somewhere else, Right,
• 58:38
  They're going to have to go with whatever will make them attractive or or we
• 58:45
  won't fix this problem and it'll be the death of the human race. And
• 58:52
  I mean, yes, I guess to some degree, men have to go
• 58:54
  out and figure out this new thing that's going to make them attractive. The
• 59:00
  same time is that, you know, blaming men for the for the destruction
• 59:06
  of everything that made them attractive. It's like society is, you know,
• 59:10
  a peacocks tail. Society is Men invest in it because it gives them the
• 59:15
  peacocks tail, Right, that's where they get. They invest in the work
• 59:20
  of building society because in exchange, they become attractive to women, and our
• 59:24
  societies ceasing to do that, and eventually it's gonna crumble because of that.
• 59:30
  And we either figure out once again how to make men attractive to women as
• 59:37
  a people, and we can start by getting rid of the nonsense and lies
• 59:42
  about men. That might be a good place, like stop shooting ourselves in
• 59:45
  the foot, see what falls out. Then, you know, get rid
• 59:49
  of the whole men oppressed women narrative. You know. And the funny thing
• 59:53
  is that that whole narrative, at its coret it's kernel, is the recognition
• 59:58
  that men have to bring some thing to the table. They have to have
• 1:00:01
  some power, some ability, some authority, something more than women, or
• 1:00:06
  women are not interested in them, and if they're not getting it from the
• 1:00:09
  society, then the society is not long for the world. So you can
• 1:00:13
  say, you can point to all these men who are not living up to
• 1:00:15
  the standard, whatever that is, and say, well, you're weak.
• 1:00:22
  But how are they supposed to get Like we talked about, how if all
• 1:00:29
  these men become rich, Well, the top twenty percent remains the top twenty
• 1:00:32
  percent. You know this, women are going after the top twenty percent,
• 1:00:38
  and they're not doing so because the lower eighty percent is necessarily bad. They're
• 1:00:45
  going after the top twenty percent because that's what all the other women are going
• 1:00:47
  after. That's what has the social proof, you know, and and that
• 1:00:52
  is it's it's a function of intersectional competition among women. Again, like I
• 1:00:59
  said earlier, it doesn't really have anything to do with men, because if
• 1:01:04
  we're in a situation where this is a problem with women, right, if
• 1:01:07
  if Tim was poor or average and in terms of his income, he would
• 1:01:13
  he would have the same problem. And the problem is that women want a
• 1:01:17
  man who will make her girlfriends jealous, right, And that is not the
• 1:01:23
  average man, and nor would it ever have been the average man, because
• 1:01:29
  previous societies kept that in check, they kept the female female intersexual competition in
• 1:01:35
  check, and they didn't and women weren't making decisions based on it. So
• 1:01:40
  now you have to be in the top twenty percent. And even if that
• 1:01:45
  eighty percent suddenly got to the same got up above the bar of the top
• 1:01:51
  twenty percent, that wouldn't be good enough because immediately the bar would raise to
• 1:01:55
  the top twenty percent again, because what they're after isn't what the features of
• 1:02:01
  the top twenty percent of men. What they're after is the fact that the
• 1:02:06
  top twenty percent of men each have five women after them. Mm hmmm.
• 1:02:10
  Like, and it's the social proof, it's the it's the connect, it's
• 1:02:15
  the relationship between the women that they're after. Like, it's it's the fact
• 1:02:21
  that they have other women after them that they're after. Well, how are
• 1:02:24
  you gonna how can that ever? Try? How is it an average man
• 1:02:30
  supposed to do anything in that circumstance, even if he becomes ripped like Chris
• 1:02:37
  Chris Williamson or no, not Christ ripped. Okay, fair enough, we'll
• 1:02:42
  go with that. I made a mistake, but he probably is up like
• 1:02:45
  a Julianne salad. Like even if they even if the whole eighty percent of
• 1:02:50
  men that is subpar allegedly got ripped, got money, got the bugatti,
• 1:02:55
  got all of this other shit and became the same identical to the top twenty
• 1:03:00
  percent, Being ripped by Chris Williamson wouldn't be enough. You'd have to be
• 1:03:06
  ripped like Chris Helmsworth. You'd have to be as rich as Bill Gates.
• 1:03:12
  You'd have to you know, it just goes up, because again it is
• 1:03:15
  not the objective standard. It is the subjective how many other women are after
• 1:03:22
  this guy that these women are after, and that is always a moving target,
• 1:03:27
  and you can't build a society on a moving target like that. So
• 1:03:32
  there's nothing men can do. Oh I hate saying that. Oh God,
• 1:03:36
  I feel really bad. Normal. No, I mean, it's it's just
• 1:03:38
  a you know. And the other thing, too, is I'm saying that
• 1:03:43
  having a relationship, you have a relationship. Everybody here has relationships, and
• 1:03:47
  it's really difficult to say. This is not a situation that works, and
• 1:03:53
  it's not a situation that men can change, because that means that they can't.
• 1:03:58
  Like many guys are not going be able to do anything. The only
• 1:04:00
  thing we can do is to shame women out of this situation. And we've
• 1:04:06
  removed all of the pillars that prevented this kind of toxic intersexual competition, where
• 1:04:13
  women now want a partner who makes her friends jealous, want a partner who
• 1:04:16
  has five women after them, but only is invested in them somehow, you
• 1:04:21
  know, because everything is now about women's competition with each other. And honestly,
• 1:04:28
  I think that one of the more destructive aspects of this is I think
• 1:04:32
  a lot of women would prefer to destroy, Like if they're all going after
• 1:04:39
  the top men, those top men have women who are sort of roughly equivalent
• 1:04:44
  to their value generally, right. I think a lot of solid sixes actually
• 1:04:48
  take some Shotenfreuda, some delight in ruining the prospective chances of the nines and
• 1:04:57
  tens by being a side piece. No, And I mean there's a dark
• 1:05:04
  aspect to it. It's a dark, jealous, competitive aspect to the feminine.
• 1:05:10
  And we don't want to talk about it. And how are men like
• 1:05:15
  in certain aspects of women's sociality and their strength. It's not that men are
• 1:05:19
  weak or strong. They're just not playing the game at all. They're not
• 1:05:24
  even in the same dimension, Like they just sort of exist elsewhere, and
• 1:05:30
  they don't even see Like a lot of men don't even see what's going on
• 1:05:32
  with women. They don't see it. So it's not that men are strong
• 1:05:36
  or weak when it comes to female intersectional competition. It's that they have no
• 1:05:41
  effect on it whatsoever except being the objects of it. Yeah, and we
• 1:05:47
  got rid of everything that kept it in check, monogamy, shaming, promiscuity,
• 1:05:53
  you know, shaming out of wedlock, birth, not giving birth,
• 1:05:57
  control, and we got rid of everything that controlled women's intersexual competition with each
• 1:06:02
  other, which incidentally also ruins their relationships with each other, which is why
• 1:06:10
  you see those women. Remember that one girl who was just like, I
• 1:06:13
  can't have and she was she was at the point of tears when she said
• 1:06:15
  this. Remember we were talking, we responded, Hannah Cox. And there
• 1:06:19
  was this one woman and she she was talking about how she can't be friends
• 1:06:24
  with women because they're they're constantly backstabbing and everything is about the the a competition
• 1:06:32
  and all of this other stuff, and it's all very like passive aggressive,
• 1:06:36
  and it's toxic. And she was almost at the point of tears, and
• 1:06:42
  Hannah Cox's would like just called her out as a pick me because she was
• 1:06:45
  not complaining about women in the way that Hannah Cox does. So I mean,
• 1:06:49
  but that's that's the thing. It ruins women's relationships with each other,
• 1:06:55
  and and it ruins relation men women's relationships with men, and it's like nope,
• 1:07:01
  and people get less and less happy. And again it has nothing to
• 1:07:05
  do with men's strength or weakness. It's like, I don't know, I'll
• 1:07:12
  think of a proper analogy, but I think we are I think we follow
• 1:07:15
  so yeah, okay, I got a super chow from greed Indoors. I
• 1:07:19
  don't know if I missed one from before, and it gives us ten dollars
• 1:07:23
  and says economics is the reason why we have these so called weak men and
• 1:07:27
  their supposed failure to woo the women's and launch a new generation of toxic men.
• 1:07:31
  Men children with their men flu here, have some rocks to throw at
• 1:07:35
  them. Money cannot buy female happiness, but with some hardship you can sell
• 1:07:40
  right next to it or something. Oh damn, I think your princess just
• 1:07:45
  sailed behind the horizon, sir, hardship some more? All right, thanks,
• 1:07:49
  and well, I will say I don't appreciate Tim's framing of these men
• 1:07:53
  as like losers, because like most men have jobs, probably and they may
• 1:07:59
  even have jobs that are good enough for them, but they're still not good
• 1:08:02
  enough for women. And I think that's important because like men don't need anything
• 1:08:06
  really, they can live on the bare minimum and be happy, but they're
• 1:08:11
  not going to attract women. I know. I know a guy goes to
• 1:08:14
  my church. He's like huge guy, like six foot six, six foot
• 1:08:19
  eight. He could be in a football team. You know, just a
• 1:08:21
  giant man and he's he's a garbage man, and he's alone. He's single,
• 1:08:30
  like like, garbage men make good money, and he's doing well and
• 1:08:34
  he's tall. You know, he's not he's not terrible to look at.
• 1:08:38
  He's still pretty young. But you see his job, despite how well it
• 1:08:42
  pays, it's not very high status. It's not very glamorous. So he
• 1:08:45
  doesn't do well with women and he's struggling, like he you know, he
• 1:08:49
  was like he didn't confide in me or anything like that, but he did
• 1:08:53
  say. I remember asking him like, hey, how you doing, Like
• 1:08:57
  are you having a good day? And he's like, I guess I'm a
• 1:08:59
  garbage man. Like that was like his for opening line. I was like,
• 1:09:01
  dude, we need garbage men. Well we'd be we'd be standing in
• 1:09:06
  filth if it weren't for you. Like what do you talk? I was
• 1:09:09
  like, look, your job is really important. I know it doesn't get
• 1:09:12
  talked about a lot. It's not something that we celebrate, but dude,
• 1:09:15
  like this is this is the backbone of our society. Like can I be
• 1:09:19
  garbage? Yeah, go ahead. Garbage man's job is more important than tim's.
• 1:09:26
  Absolutely that's more important, and I think it'd be I think to a
• 1:09:30
  degree, I would say it's more important than ours. But we in we
• 1:09:33
  are actually advocating for telling that to garbage man. Yeah, I'm advocating for
• 1:09:39
  the garbage man. I'm telling you. Yeah, so I mean, but
• 1:09:43
  I mean, ultimately, like the concept of what we do is less important.
• 1:09:46
  Uh, it always will be. Like there are certain jobs that are
• 1:09:50
  absolutely necessary for the comfort of humanity and they get no respect, none whatsoever.
• 1:09:58
  And they certainly don't get any respect from women unless you know you're a
• 1:10:01
  woman who does these kinds of things. Then for whatever reason, women who
• 1:10:05
  do those kinds of things tend to respect men who do them too. But
• 1:10:10
  yeah, it's okay, let's let's we're we're selling more of the video.
• 1:10:15
  I just thought, just we're lagging lagging for Yeah, we're lagging a bit.
• 1:10:18
  Okay, I want to play it now. Like you know, there
• 1:10:21
  was one I was watching. I'm gonna shut him out home Map because this
• 1:10:26
  is credit goes to him, despite the fact I'm being some right. I
• 1:10:29
  like his work. That's what I'm saying. He shows the ten through one
• 1:10:31
  men and women and how women go up a woman who is a one wants
• 1:10:36
  a man who's a four. And I'm like, well, first of all,
• 1:10:40
  I don't think one who was a one is getting anybody. And like
• 1:10:43
  I beg you to just I beg to differ. Okay, there are there
• 1:10:48
  are very let's say, conventionally unattractive women that have men, Like women could
• 1:10:57
  be a one and get a man. I don't you tell me, Chad,
• 1:11:00
  do you think a one? If you're a woman and you're a one,
• 1:11:02
  would you find a man? Even if it's just like I don't know,
• 1:11:08
  one night stand or something, you know? But I think I think
• 1:11:11
  men are generally more open minded. Let's say, but there's men who are
• 1:11:17
  two's who probably would take a one. Must be frank mm hmm. All
• 1:11:24
  right, So I don't know where and are there no ones male ones in
• 1:11:28
  his analysis? Like I think hole matt'scraft does include the men too. It
• 1:11:32
  has like the it draws lines both ways. Men generally are more like they're
• 1:11:38
  more reasonable, like they go for generally across or even a little down.
• 1:11:43
  They're okay with that. But anyway, that's not true. Wait, I
• 1:11:47
  have to kiation, Well, if you've watched let me make this point.
• 1:11:51
  If you've ever watched My six hundred pound Life. There's literally six hundred pound
• 1:11:55
  women. They always have a boyfriend on it. They always have a boyfriend
• 1:11:58
  on this six hundred pund woman is like a for one, like a victim.
• 1:12:02
  Yeah, you mean as a boyfriend though still has a boyfriend. Door
• 1:12:12
  Lock is a ten, they told me. So, Okay, I see
• 1:12:15
  people in the chat mentioned lock. That's a ten. I want to say
• 1:12:18
  that like a burn victim, like the person that she just directed at.
• 1:12:30
  I love the look of utter skepticism and annoyance on her face. I don't
• 1:12:34
  know this woman, but I wish to know more of what she has to
• 1:12:38
  say. What did she have anything sensible? She's not really, she doesn't
• 1:12:43
  really have a strong position on much of anything. I think she's like an
• 1:12:47
  accidental influencer. So I don't know, but I'll play. I'll play more
• 1:12:53
  of the video. Sure, burn victims could be could be nines for real,
• 1:12:57
  like being subjected to her. Okay, reduce your your your your your
• 1:13:00
  value? How much? How much do they spend discussing this retarded element of
• 1:13:06
  They get past it pretty quick, okay, all right, let them get
• 1:13:12
  past it, all right? All right? Like, yeah, we're talking
• 1:13:15
  about looks. Aren't we total marketing total dating value? So, uh,
• 1:13:23
  women have babies. That means it's very very hard to be a one woman.
• 1:13:27
  That's true, right, So a one woman is like a barren,
• 1:13:30
  mentally deficient, limbless autist in a nursing home. And and and to be
• 1:13:36
  fair, there are men who will abuse Wait a second, you know what
• 1:13:40
  I mean? Like, okay, what? Yeah? But how okay?
• 1:13:45
  Tim? The only way that men could conceivably be responsible for the women's choices
• 1:13:49
  is if they are supposed to have authority and enact support authority over women.
• 1:13:55
  But now you're saying the first thing you go to with the most vulnerable woman
• 1:13:58
  you can mention consider a one is that men abuse their authority over him.
• 1:14:05
  Why does this level of fuck get so much attention? I don't know.
• 1:14:14
  Also worth putting out that I think this is why this matters. What Tim
• 1:14:17
  is saying is is that women are automatically above like a four because of the
• 1:14:25
  fact that they can bear children. Well, but this points to this point
• 1:14:30
  is something that I don't know that he's going to acknowledge. He must acknowledge,
• 1:14:34
  which is that women do have value inherent to them because they are women,
• 1:14:41
  but men do not. And that's what he said earlier. You don't
• 1:14:45
  deserve to be given value, right because you don't have because you live in
• 1:14:48
  your mama's basement with cheeto on your face or whatever. So what he's saying
• 1:14:53
  is is that women are worth more than men, full stop, because women
• 1:14:57
  have inherent value because they can bear children. Men only have value provided that
• 1:15:00
  they are you know, useful to us essentially, which is like the oldest
• 1:15:08
  you know thing that we've been saying. Like Chris Rock added in his routine,
• 1:15:11
  right, men are only valuable provided they can provide something essentially. Okay,
• 1:15:20
  what about when women go through menopause, did they instantly become ones they
• 1:15:27
  become men? No? I don't know. By the way, by the
• 1:15:31
  way, this again, I don't think this is going to come up,
• 1:15:33
  but they should probably be wondering, well, if we're saying all of this
• 1:15:36
  shit about men, why is it then that men are transitioning to become women.
• 1:15:42
  Why would they do that? Why would men so fine that they they've
• 1:15:46
  found the cheat code and they're like, oh shit, if I do up
• 1:15:49
  up down, down, left, life right, left, right, be
• 1:15:51
  a start and take some hormone blockers and cut off my penis. I can
• 1:15:56
  get some respect, and they do that. I just I'm like, okay,
• 1:16:02
  So one of the big things that the red Pill bros seemed and everybody
• 1:16:06
  gets offended at, is they point out that women hit the wall. Okay,
• 1:16:12
  but but Tim has just explained what the wall is. Even if you
• 1:16:17
  are a quote unquote one as a woman, as long as you're fertile,
• 1:16:21
  you go up a couple notches in attractiveness. When you hit menopause, suddenly
• 1:16:29
  you have you are in the male situation, right, You're just a man
• 1:16:33
  with a bonus hole. Yeah, You're just a man with a bonus hole.
• 1:16:38
  Maybe the red pill borrows are just simply saying, hey, you're about
• 1:16:41
  to have our experience in a few decades. Maybe you should listen to us.
• 1:16:47
  Okay, but I'm guessing Tim Poole would reject that. And I honestly,
• 1:16:53
  I think his characterization of men, what is he saying. He's men
• 1:16:58
  watching women hating women or something, men who hate women watching watching women get
• 1:17:06
  dunked on or something like that. They don't hate women, by the way,
• 1:17:11
  Yeah, but the thing is that they're not. They're dunking on stupid
• 1:17:15
  people. That's always gonna be funny. Who happen to be women, who
• 1:17:19
  happen to be women, and who are stupid in a particularly feminine way.
• 1:17:25
  Saw, Like, are you saying that people and not just that like a
• 1:17:30
  lot of them choose to be stupid. I'm not talking about dunking on people
• 1:17:32
  who are you know, like down syndrome people who are making the most of
• 1:17:35
  their God given gifts. These women are not making the most of their brains,
• 1:17:42
  are living their best life all the time. Yeah, they're they're if
• 1:17:45
  if these women had the same the same devotion to doing as much as they
• 1:17:50
  could as somebody with Down syndrome, they would be a hell of a lot
• 1:17:55
  smarter. So this is a chosen stupidity. And believe and I believe that
• 1:18:00
  when somebody has chosen the path of stupidity, they should be mocked. Mm
• 1:18:06
  hmmm, all right, let's play more of the video so you know you
• 1:18:17
  regard. But my point to home math was like men are not ranked based
• 1:18:21
  on appearance. If you're a guy and you think that your number rating is
• 1:18:28
  based on appearance, you've not done any any of the reading. Right.
• 1:18:30
  They the Science of Sex documentary from a long time ago all right, I'm
• 1:18:34
  gonna positve here. We know this bit already. We already know that women
• 1:18:40
  they select on appearance if it makes other women jealous. But it's not the
• 1:18:43
  only factor. But I think that he's doing another misrepresentation though of this is
• 1:18:49
  total shit. Women select on appearance. They may they may select on money
• 1:18:59
  if you're going to die in ten years and they're going to get it,
• 1:19:01
  like m hm, does tempoole? I know this might be a little bit
• 1:19:08
  personal, but does he have a girlfriend? Now? I think he does,
• 1:19:14
  And it doesn't excuse anything, though, Okay, let's just keep going,
• 1:19:17
  all right, let's keep going. They took ten pictures of ten no
• 1:19:24
  no, I think it was like one hundred men and a hundred women,
• 1:19:26
  and then they had people come in a lab and rate them on a scale
• 1:19:28
  of one to ten for attractiveness. They then took those pictures out into the
• 1:19:32
  streets and said, here's a picture. What woman said, here's a picture
• 1:19:35
  of a guy. How would you rite this guy on a scale of one
• 1:19:38
  to ten? Guess what the tall guy in the flannel with the rugged good
• 1:19:43
  looks and the wavy hair. They were like nine ten ooh nine. And
• 1:19:45
  then they did. They showed this frumpy, chubby guy with thin hair and
• 1:19:50
  glasses and you know, ugly. And then when we're like ooh, five
• 1:19:55
  four, then they added biographies. They made the guy in the flannel a
• 1:20:00
  manager at a theater who made thirty five thousand a year. They made the
• 1:20:03
  fat guy a software engineer who made half a million year, and guess what
• 1:20:05
  happened. It flipped. Yeah not it even doubt. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:20:10
  So now all of a sudden, the front the ugly guys are six or
• 1:20:12
  seven, and it's like, you gotta be kidding that ugly guy he's rich.
• 1:20:15
  Well yeah, to him, women are materialistic, shallow, What do
• 1:20:19
  you want? What do you want? Okay, somebody are great indoors just
• 1:20:25
  sent a super child that we probably should address because he's yeah, I see
• 1:20:28
  he's saying that my echoing am I echoing for everybody else? Because I just
• 1:20:31
  listened to myself. M sure, I can't. I mean, I'm listening
• 1:20:38
  to my own audio and I don't. I don't know why it would sound
• 1:20:43
  this way, So let me just test. I mean, there's my air
• 1:20:47
  condissure is on, and so there's like some background humming. People are saying
• 1:20:54
  they don't hear Some people are saying they don't hear an echo. You have
• 1:20:58
  a weird hum. Yeah, it's the air conditioner. Let me hold on
• 1:21:00
  a second. I'll it's it. Look, we're going through a heat wave
• 1:21:05
  right now. I don't know if you know. It's like record high heats
• 1:21:11
  here. We're talking one hundred degree weather. I'm gonna no way. I'm
• 1:21:15
  just gonna change my noisegate a little bit and see if that helps. Maybe
• 1:21:21
  you won't hear it if I get it up to here. So how is
• 1:21:26
  this need to deal with the air conditioning? Otherwise Brian will melt. They're
• 1:21:30
  saying the volume is good. I just changed the noise gate. So what
• 1:21:33
  it means is is that you'll hear the humming anyway when my voice comes on,
• 1:21:38
  but it won't be when I'm not talking, right, Okay, you
• 1:21:42
  don't hear it? Yeah, yeah, we have. I am slightly.
• 1:21:48
  I am slightly. Okay, all right, let me know if this is
• 1:21:55
  better. I just changed something. All right, let's play some of the
• 1:22:00
  video he can provide. And so men get mad at women for being gold
• 1:22:08
  diggers, and I'm just like, that's the stupidest thing in the world.
• 1:22:12
  Well, that's like what we were designed for. Like if you these people,
• 1:22:15
  they always contradict themselves with their loss, but they want women to be
• 1:22:18
  a stay at home mom or whatever. But in order to go ahead,
• 1:22:24
  Well I guess he's okay with just being valued for his money. Well let
• 1:22:30
  let's go back. Okay, so let's this is this is so shallow and
• 1:22:35
  boring. Let's just let's just you know what, I'm not going to go
• 1:22:39
  back. Let's just keep going. I I table my question, I withdraw
• 1:22:44
  it. Whatever, Just okay, do that. You've got to have somebody
• 1:22:50
  who at least can bring in enough money to make that possible. You know,
• 1:22:55
  like I feel like women are mostly women don't really care about I don't
• 1:22:58
  really care about looks so much. You're just looking more for somebody who's competent.
• 1:23:01
  You feel like, okay, you're gonna be You're somebody I can actually
• 1:23:04
  trust, like you've got your you know, you've got it together, you
• 1:23:08
  can lead the family. And then somebody women are just angels. Huh.
• 1:23:13
  You know it seems strange. You know, like earlier Tim Poole was saying
• 1:23:16
  all the problems was because men let women do things, and now we're finding
• 1:23:20
  out that women are just angels. Mm hmm, like, ah, goodness,
• 1:23:27
  why would men letting women do things make things worse? When women are
• 1:23:32
  such angels. They don't want there, don't have any such shallow interests at
• 1:23:38
  all. They just want someone who's competent. Okay, this is this is,
• 1:23:44
  this is not adding anything. Let's get through it, sorry, or
• 1:23:48
  will work. It's not really so much the money, it's the ability,
• 1:23:51
  will you go out and work? So I don't think throwing I think throwing
• 1:23:55
  women under the bus for that is kind of stupid because it's ultimately like biology
• 1:24:00
  forcing them to choose somebody based on you know, we think this person can
• 1:24:03
  allow me to stay at home and raise kids. Yeah. A lot of
• 1:24:06
  guys who anything it's traditional, right, A lot of guys who aren't going
• 1:24:12
  to do the work I saw. Let me tell you something. Let me
• 1:24:15
  tell you something that is this is this is not traditional. Traditional homemaking was
• 1:24:26
  a seven or six day a week, twelve hour day job, and it
• 1:24:30
  involved the actual, like a huge amount of the economic worth of a family.
• 1:24:36
  What you're describing is not traditional, and nor is a modern stay at
• 1:24:42
  home wife unless she's herself a homesteader doing a traditional job. She's doing a
• 1:24:47
  job that's been made possible by in the Industrial Revolution and also her husband's labor.
• 1:24:55
  She's not even doing a job. It's basically a hobby. I'm sorry,
• 1:24:59
  that's what it is. And like this whole idea of men being totally
• 1:25:06
  and completely valued for their material goods is also very new. Because women were
• 1:25:12
  expected to bring a dowry, they were expected to bring marketable skills to the
• 1:25:17
  relationship. We've only had this strange notion of a woman's being like basically not
• 1:25:26
  even a princess, because a princess still had to bring something, she had
• 1:25:30
  to bring relations diplomacy, some kind of skill. But we've only had this
• 1:25:36
  idea that women bring nothing but their wombs to a relationship. It's only been
• 1:25:42
  around since the fifties. Like, our ancestors would look at this, like
• 1:25:48
  what the woman brings nothing to the marriage. Okay, so she doesn't even
• 1:26:00
  have the skills of a duchess. She's just it is a big zero.
• 1:26:04
  They wouldn't They would be baffled by that, and she would have no marriage
• 1:26:11
  prospects. Like this is the funny thing they're talking about. Oh, tradition,
• 1:26:15
  women wombs, they're all plus one. No, these women with no
• 1:26:18
  marriage These would be women with no marriage prospects. The women today, if
• 1:26:24
  we sent them back in time, would be women with no marriage prospects.
• 1:26:29
  They'd have to go get an apprenticeeship is like a metalsmith or something like a
• 1:26:32
  pewter smith. And everybody's like, oh, what is tradition? This isn't
• 1:26:38
  traditional, okay, And that like the traditional that people are talking about is
• 1:26:45
  not traditional. This is not traditional. It is a construct from Hollywood and
• 1:26:49
  advertising from the fifties. This idea that men's generosity, that the way that
• 1:26:57
  they express it is by giving women incredible leisure time. That itself is a
• 1:27:00
  very new concept. It's only like three generations old. Before then, our
• 1:27:04
  traditional ancestors would be like, bitch, please work, Go go plow the
• 1:27:10
  field, go slop the hogs, go make some cloth, you know,
• 1:27:16
  go invade Brittany, shut up and do something because you're not sitting on your
• 1:27:20
  ass. You'd a big fat, fucking zero lady. Okay, let's keep
• 1:27:26
  going. All right, let me know how this sounds. Okay, I
• 1:27:30
  just changed some settings around, so all right, playing the video. A
• 1:27:35
  viral four Chan meme. Green text memes have you ever seen them? And
• 1:27:40
  it was a picture of that was it hay Mish and Andy I think the
• 1:27:43
  comedians were I'm not sure, but remember that one Alex Tether like are we
• 1:27:45
  the baddies? Yeah? It was that picture. And then he's like,
• 1:27:48
  my friend came and started complaining about this this girl. He started saying,
• 1:27:54
  like, you know, she has been like she's like a gold digger,
• 1:28:00
  she's snooty, she's elitist. He asked her out and she refused, and
• 1:28:03
  she's instead she decided to date some loser guy. And then he was like,
• 1:28:09
  oh wow. He's like, yeah, I hear that a lot.
• 1:28:12
  So he says, I decided to look up who this guy was and he's
• 1:28:14
  like, he's an athlete, he's fit, he's six feet tall, he
• 1:28:16
  works at a charity helping children. And then he was like, my friend
• 1:28:20
  is obese, lazy, doesn't want to go to work, won't wash himself.
• 1:28:27
  And he was like, I think we're the bad guys. Like yeah,
• 1:28:30
  like how is he supposed to change the six foot tall or athletics,
• 1:28:33
  because athletics has also got a genetic component too. I mean, also,
• 1:28:39
  what's the use in bringing up like the most extreme examples like the average guy
• 1:28:45
  again, and he's not attractive to the average girl. Has a job,
• 1:28:49
  probably drives a car, probably can't afford to, like sustain himself, probably
• 1:28:54
  bathes, like, probably does all of those basic things, and he's still
• 1:29:00
  loan. So like, why are we like choosing the worst examples and saying
• 1:29:03
  this is what's wrong with men instead of looking at what the overwhelming majority of
• 1:29:08
  men are doing, like keeping things running and saying, gosh, women sure
• 1:29:14
  have high standards. Like that's where the disconnect is at, dude, garbage.
• 1:29:17
  Men can't find women. Guys who work in sewers can't find women.
• 1:29:21
  Guys who like you know, and Brian means garbage as in the ones who
• 1:29:27
  pick up your trash, tim Yeah, like the guys who pay the roads,
• 1:29:31
  like the guys who work on the railroad, Like the guys who drive
• 1:29:34
  the buses, you know, Like I mean, like regular guys. They
• 1:29:40
  work in retail, they work at home depot, they work at game stop.
• 1:29:44
  Whatever. Mm hmm, we're not You're you're like using this extreme example.
• 1:29:48
  And even then, I would, I would, I would table the
• 1:29:51
  question, Okay, why have those men turned out that way? Where where
• 1:29:57
  did they get? Like where do men model their behavior when it comes to
• 1:30:02
  what their their good decisions are bad decisions? Okay? Who influenced that man's
• 1:30:06
  life to put him in that position? Like I'm not saying it's not his
• 1:30:11
  fault. I'm saying, but these things don't happen in a vacuum, right,
• 1:30:14
  So, like what happened to that guy? What's his story? Did
• 1:30:17
  he know his father? Did he have siblings? Was his mother supportive?
• 1:30:23
  Was she overbearing? Was she devouring? Was she abusive? Like? What?
• 1:30:28
  What what happened? You know what? Like it's not just like why
• 1:30:31
  are they losers? I mean like this is like the oldest, but the
• 1:30:35
  other pati he's He's even explaining in his own analysis, like tim, are
• 1:30:43
  all are all of the pet the men who are are like one to four
• 1:30:48
  while all women start at four? Like are they losers because of why?
• 1:30:55
  Because they just don't have a womb? Like because so you already like he's
• 1:31:00
  already starting women at four? Basically, so every single woman is a four
• 1:31:03
  at the bare minimum, bare minimum, every woman is a four, So
• 1:31:09
  all the men who are four are lower? Are they just automatically losers?
• 1:31:14
  Why? Because they're unattractive? Like she's already saying that just by existing,
• 1:31:19
  women deserve better than the average man. And then he's saying, well,
• 1:31:25
  the average man isn't living up well, the average man is average, right,
• 1:31:30
  Like, what what else is he supposed to be? What else?
• 1:31:33
  When? What are those four are under supposed to do? Are they just
• 1:31:38
  weak men? Like we should we have another freaking war and just throw them
• 1:31:43
  into a meat grinder? Yeah, this is just like it's I mean,
• 1:31:48
  he's basically saying that. I mean, he doesn't even need to use this
• 1:31:53
  extreme example. He can just use his own thing that he said, because
• 1:31:57
  he's categorized every woman is a four or above basically, and and there's a
• 1:32:01
  good portion of men who are for or less who are have completely no prospects.
• 1:32:08
  And he's saying, well, get better, right, Yeah, but
• 1:32:11
  once they get up to the average, I mean, then the average goes
• 1:32:15
  up again. And the problem with the average man is not what he is,
• 1:32:20
  what he's earning, what he looks like, how athletic he is,
• 1:32:25
  or whether or not he's he's exercises or a slim. The problem with the
• 1:32:30
  average man is that he's average. And you can't change that. Nobody can
• 1:32:38
  change that. The problem with average men is that they are average, okay,
• 1:32:43
  And the problem with blow average men is they're not even average. They're
• 1:32:46
  not even men. They're not they're not even people. And this is infuriating,
• 1:32:51
  Like he even recognizes that that that dynamic exists, you know. And
• 1:32:58
  the thing is that a woman. Okay, So because women are automatically four
• 1:33:03
  and above, they're always going to going to want to have men who are
• 1:33:09
  even more higher. They're gonna look at look at an average man as being
• 1:33:13
  a one. So anyway, let's let's keep going, all right, evolutionary
• 1:33:21
  biology and psychology. Women want to find a guy who's going to protect them
• 1:33:26
  from Now you're that that noise gate is really weird because I can really hear
• 1:33:33
  like a ververver. Now, sorry, I'm I don't know, it's just
• 1:33:41
  hot. I don't know what to tell you. All Right, We're just
• 1:33:44
  gonna have to deal with it, folks. I'm sorry, Okay, I'm
• 1:33:46
  gonna play now from a bear? Are you that guy? Well? The
• 1:33:51
  wait? What we what? What? What? What? Go back?
• 1:33:56
  Go back? Now we can go back? What what was that a reference
• 1:33:58
  to the bear meme? Let's listen to it again. I don't think we
• 1:34:01
  have the full context. No, women want to find a guy who's going
• 1:34:04
  to protect them from a bear? Are you that guy? Well? The
• 1:34:09
  I think the problem we have now is that's great. Well, yeah,
• 1:34:13
  I mean he has guns, so he's kind of he probably could, but
• 1:34:17
  again there is an expectation of male sacrifice there. Right. Is this an
• 1:34:23
  analysis of the dating situation or is this Tim Poole alpha on top of all
• 1:34:30
  reproductive hierarchies, the big lobster, the big yeah? Is this? Is
• 1:34:36
  this lobstering or is this discussion? All right, Okay, let's play some
• 1:34:45
  more. I think the problem we have now is that's great if women do
• 1:34:50
  have, like Lily said, the intention of being moms having kids, and
• 1:34:55
  they want a man to provide because they're going to have a family. But
• 1:34:57
  the issue we've run into now is that that's not what most women want to
• 1:35:00
  do. The average woman is having like one point six children. Now,
• 1:35:04
  the average first age they have a baby is like thirty or thirty one.
• 1:35:09
  What's the average body count, Rachel right now? Oh, it varies so
• 1:35:12
  much depending on what surveys you look at. It could be like some of
• 1:35:15
  them say like eight, some of them say a lot higher I think it's
• 1:35:18
  probably higher because all why why, we all know that they lie. So
• 1:35:24
  I don't know about the body count, but it's just like, if women
• 1:35:28
  wanted those things from men because for the purpose of having a family, I
• 1:35:30
  think that's fine, But sadly they don't seem to want to do that.
• 1:35:33
  So now it's or they wait until they're like thirty five and they're like,
• 1:35:36
  well, now I want to have a child. And as a result,
• 1:35:41
  the United States for the first time has a rising maternal mortality rate due to
• 1:35:45
  the advanced age of first pregnancy and pregnancies in general. So it's like,
• 1:35:50
  we're kind of at this weird last where is that the only reason why mortality
• 1:35:57
  maternal mortality is going up? Okay, I think we're skirting one of the
• 1:36:00
  untouchable subjects. So oh yeah, I think I know. I was wondering
• 1:36:04
  if that's what you were going with that, but yeah, no, let's
• 1:36:06
  just keep skirting. Yeah, we'll just keep skirting. But I okay,
• 1:36:11
  I will say at least Rachel mentions that women are a part of the problem
• 1:36:16
  here, because Tim is like, why aren't you You're not getting all these
• 1:36:20
  you know, these trad women that are gonna make you all these babies because
• 1:36:24
  you're not living up. And Rachel's like, yeah, but women aren't exactly
• 1:36:27
  being that way. They're kind of garbage right now. They're the kind of
• 1:36:30
  garbage that but they're they're also garbage that they don't want garbage men dealing with.
• 1:36:34
  So we're we're talking about like multiple degrees removed from trash, so much
• 1:36:42
  trash that the trash men are not allowed to touch it. So, uh,
• 1:36:45
  anyway, let's play some more. If women want men for resources,
• 1:36:49
  but you're also a career boss babe who has her own money and you got
• 1:36:53
  your own bag and you don't need a man for anything, then you can
• 1:36:57
  see why dating isn't working for people. We should we should teach the history
• 1:37:00
  of Sparta in in our homeschools, or just watch a movie Idiocracy. Everybody's
• 1:37:05
  seen. Have you seen that movie? Of course, at the very beginning,
• 1:37:08
  why everybody's getting stupid? Do you even address that? Address what?
• 1:37:14
  Well? Did he even address what she said? He's just like, ah,
• 1:37:15
  let's teach Sparta. Well, I think he's going to explain that he
• 1:37:19
  goes into the Spartans, so you might you might take some it's a little
• 1:37:26
  it's a bit rome adjacent. So maybe this will like get your fire going,
• 1:37:30
  but a little bit about well I know, but this is a good
• 1:37:33
  chance for you to refute the Spartans. So all right, let's let's play
• 1:37:40
  it. And I mean, Alex Stein is so like midwidth levels. I
• 1:37:46
  mean, yeah, he is really but but well, well, after he's
• 1:37:48
  done just having babies, and then the people that are smart and that you
• 1:37:54
  know, don't want to waste your money only have one baby. And that's
• 1:37:56
  literally what's happening in society today. And it's just Venezuela and imgrants having like
• 1:38:00
  ten kids to come up to the border, and uh, you know Tim
• 1:38:03
  and I it would not have ten kids. You know, it's you know,
• 1:38:08
  you know what they did in Sparta, right, do you guys know
• 1:38:09
  about what they did in Sparta with the babies. They would they well,
• 1:38:15
  oh I don't know. I've heard that they would leave the baby out for
• 1:38:17
  twenty four hours and if it died, it deserve to die, like it
• 1:38:20
  was not strong. Yeah, they would just like leave it and walk away.
• 1:38:24
  But I'm not saying to do that the only the only way to get
• 1:38:28
  a headstone on your grave. I mean like these days, we don't even
• 1:38:31
  do that. We just kill them women, just throw them in the dumpster,
• 1:38:34
  pull them out after prom and the baby survives in the dumpster overnight.
• 1:38:40
  That's a strong yeah maybe, but uh yeah, he's acting like this is
• 1:38:47
  completely absurd. But women totally do that, like they do this today in
• 1:38:50
  America in the West. But okay, let's play somewhere. If you were
• 1:38:56
  a man, was to die in battle, and if you are a woman,
• 1:38:58
  was to die in childbirth. And the reason I bring it up is
• 1:39:01
  not that we should literally follow that, but it's to show how a society
• 1:39:04
  valued having children. Women were seen as heroic warriors for having children. Men
• 1:39:12
  were worthless on the unless they died fighting for to protect their families. And
• 1:39:16
  then what we have now is I blame I blame men because him Sparta was
• 1:39:21
  a horrific slave state. The reason why they did that was because they were
• 1:39:26
  in constant fear of a slave rebellion. And essentially they were part of a
• 1:39:30
  society in which if you were subjugated militarily, you lost your right to consider
• 1:39:34
  yourself a human being and became livestock. Let us not take a page out
• 1:39:40
  of Sparta's history we don't want to go back there. Yeah, I'm though
• 1:39:49
  just because it's funny. Okay, let's let's listen, all right. I
• 1:39:55
  think you said this last time you're on the show. That equality What we
• 1:39:59
  said something like equality that is the choice of men if at any point men
• 1:40:02
  decided you elaborate on that. Yeah. Yeah, because men have the monopoly
• 1:40:06
  on force, any notion of women's rights is going to have to be enforced
• 1:40:11
  by men. So any illusion we have that women have rights is men saying
• 1:40:15
  yes, we'll go ahead and enforce those rights for you. And you're right.
• 1:40:17
  I mean, if you look, if you read my book, it
• 1:40:20
  was like progressive era industrialists, men who tend to be like your beta type
• 1:40:27
  of game man, is what you're trying to say. They tend to be
• 1:40:30
  so like So the richest men on earth created this situation, and they were
• 1:40:34
  weak. But also the men who weren't able to oppose the richest men on
• 1:40:39
  earth were also weak. What what the hell were they supposed to do?
• 1:40:45
  Like? Yeah, And the thing is that it's a big man thing.
• 1:40:48
  It's the whole idea that manhood is defined by generosity. Those those rich industrialists
• 1:40:54
  wanted to feel like big men, So they gave women all rights and welfare
• 1:40:58
  and all this other stuff, like they gave women's stuff. That's the problem
• 1:41:03
  is in how we define masculinity in terms of generosity towards women. But that
• 1:41:11
  is something that's so baked in, like it's every culture that does that,
• 1:41:15
  that defines men in terms of sacrifice and generosity. Well, I guess we
• 1:41:20
  can challenge that, but we don't do it by continuing to define men in
• 1:41:26
  terms of generosity and strength, Like we have to figure something else out.
• 1:41:31
  Okay, let's let's keep going. And also I would take issue. I
• 1:41:38
  think that women have a social power. It's not just that men give things
• 1:41:43
  to women, it's that men there's there's an element to men where there's an
• 1:41:48
  instinct to do so. And I think it does have to do with like
• 1:41:53
  the whole giving birth thing. There's an instinct to provide for women because we
• 1:41:58
  have that extended peerad of vulnerability that women have and if men didn't have that
• 1:42:02
  instinct, we wouldn't have survived. So there, I think there is an
• 1:42:06
  instinct to give crap to women. It's just, and which is why almost
• 1:42:13
  every society on earth has an idea of manhood that's based on generosity and sacrifice,
• 1:42:21
  right, So I mean, but the question is if you don't like
• 1:42:28
  the results of men's generosity and sacrifice, and honestly, it's not weakness,
• 1:42:31
  it's how they express their strength. If you don't like that, how do
• 1:42:36
  we really change it? Do you really change it by saying that these men
• 1:42:41
  are weak or men who were unable to oppose them are weak? Or do
• 1:42:45
  we change it by saying, hey, ladies, maybe don't define male generosity
• 1:42:50
  in these terms. Okay, okay, we got a couple of super childs.
• 1:42:57
  You to read those? You want me to? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:43:00
  why not? I'll put him on the screen. Richard Bierre gave us five
• 1:43:02
  bucks. Do you have it in front of you or do you want me
• 1:43:05
  to just do it? I can I can do it. I can do
• 1:43:06
  Richard Bierre gives us five bucks. Finding a relationship partner at home depot as
• 1:43:11
  a myth, there was that TikTok girl who was handing out handing out her
• 1:43:15
  relationship resume at a home depot and didn't gain any traction. There are more
• 1:43:19
  TikTok videos of women going into a home depot looking for a potential husband and
• 1:43:23
  coming up dry, so the husband of material isn't even on the employee payroll.
• 1:43:28
  There then got one from Great Indoors, Great Indoors, Tim, ten
• 1:43:33
  dollars. Tim, don't try to figure out women. Bears figured out women
• 1:43:38
  and they eat them with fava beans and an ice ki on tape. Okay,
• 1:43:45
  that was kod All right, let's play. Let's get this over with.
• 1:43:48
  We're almost done. Think of Bill Gates, right, not the most
• 1:43:51
  alpha dude, but very smart, became very successful and wealthy and rich,
• 1:43:56
  and it's kind of it becomes revenge of the nerds to a certain degree,
• 1:43:58
  I think, where it's like they for that type of guy, it's advantageous
• 1:44:03
  to have women's liberation because that's how those guys, at least they thought,
• 1:44:06
  we're going to get this sex with no strings attached if we do this sexual
• 1:44:11
  liberation stuff. And what they are finding out is that's not the good deal
• 1:44:15
  that they thought it was. But for a lot of guys, it is.
• 1:44:17
  For the for the top twenty percentile, yeah, they're getting free sex
• 1:44:23
  whenever they want with no responsibility, and like feminism has greatly benefited like a
• 1:44:30
  lot of guys, like the top twenty pc. No, that's a minority
• 1:44:32
  of guys. That's a very and it's smaller than that. And plus this
• 1:44:38
  all presumes that the top twenty percent of guys are interested in one night stands
• 1:44:43
  with lots of different women. There's probably a lot of guys in that top
• 1:44:45
  percentile that only want like one, they want to be in a monogamous relationship.
• 1:44:51
  So you're looking at a fraction within a fraction, and it's still a
• 1:44:56
  minority, a very small minority of men, not really a lot of guys.
• 1:45:00
  That's like kind of an equivocation that doesn't mean anything because there are eighty
• 1:45:05
  percent of guys I mean, by your metric, but nothing, and that
• 1:45:11
  could be a problem, don't you think. Yeah? But okay, so
• 1:45:15
  could you go back a little bit so I can hear what you've had to
• 1:45:17
  say again, because I think I want to answer to it all right x
• 1:45:21
  whenever they want, with no responsibility, and like feminism has greatly benefited Okay,
• 1:45:28
  all right, So the top So he's admitting that women are having sex
• 1:45:31
  of the top twenty percent of guys, Well, okay, if you want
• 1:45:36
  to scrub out the bottom eighty percent, that's what's going to happen. If
• 1:45:42
  you want to give women the right to just completely or if women want the
• 1:45:45
  right to completely scrub out the eighty percent lower eighty percent, guess what happens.
• 1:45:51
  The top twenty percent, or at least the part of the top twenty
• 1:45:54
  percent that's willing to live that way, is going to get a lot of
• 1:45:57
  sex, and you all are going to be competing over them the end.
• 1:46:01
  Like and then you tim will call all the women all the men who aren't
• 1:46:05
  in the top ten twenty percent, which is impossible. It is a statistical
• 1:46:09
  impossibility for every man to be in the top twenty percent of men. It's
• 1:46:14
  possible. Okay, you're gonna say every man who isn't is weak, you
• 1:46:18
  know, get good scrub well. Sounds like a skill issue. Yeah,
• 1:46:25
  it's but this is do you get what I'm saying. It's like, yeah,
• 1:46:29
  it's It's just there's something wrong with this logic. It's flawed. It's
• 1:46:33
  deeply flawed, and I'm trying to put my finger on it. Okay,
• 1:46:36
  keep going, all right, guys, like the top twenty percent, Now
• 1:46:43
  they can sit around all day doing nothing while women go work and produce value
• 1:46:46
  and do labor. Come back, preach about how liberated they are give the
• 1:46:50
  guy free sex, and then the guy says, why buy the cow and
• 1:46:54
  you get the milk for free? Ironic, isn't it? Okay? But
• 1:46:58
  but but this is the thing, Like, if you want only the top
• 1:47:02
  twenty, if you want to bake a situation where women are selecting out the
• 1:47:06
  lower eighty percent, then they're left with the top twenty percent, which means
• 1:47:12
  like they're not going to get relationships. Like literally, this situation means women
• 1:47:15
  are not going to get relationships period. You just don't get that. You're
• 1:47:19
  not going to have a relationship. Right, So, and we're all okay
• 1:47:25
  with that because women should have the right to to just not choose lower eighty
• 1:47:30
  percent, right, they should have the right, absolute right to go through
• 1:47:33
  the top ten twenty percent because those are the only men that matter because they
• 1:47:38
  have made the effort to become attractive. According to Tim, they're not the
• 1:47:41
  weak men, all right. Yeah, But if all men raise their standards
• 1:47:45
  and they all like rose the occasion and became greater, then guess what women
• 1:47:48
  will still of those guys? Yeah, the men below that will have to
• 1:47:55
  step up again. Yeah yeah, So it's like but that so the cost
• 1:48:00
  of that is that women never don't get relationships. Okay, if you want
• 1:48:08
  a relationship, if you're a woman, if you want an actual relationship,
• 1:48:13
  then you can't scrub out eighty percent of men. Period. That's the dividing
• 1:48:18
  lines. And you can say, oh, women are totally justified in doing
• 1:48:23
  that. All right, Fine, they're totally justified and only seeing the top
• 1:48:27
  twenty percent is acceptable. Well, they're gonna be doing a lot of sharing
• 1:48:30
  and there'll be no relationships. Got one or the other, And it's women
• 1:48:38
  who have to choose it, unless you want to choose it before them,
• 1:48:40
  Tim, which I'm not exactly sure what you would choose for them, considering
• 1:48:44
  that you think that the lower eighty percent of men has no value, and
• 1:48:48
  somehow you think that if they did gain i don't know value from Tim's school
• 1:48:53
  of men's value, that somehow women will stop wanting the top twenty percent of
• 1:48:59
  men, stop skimming off the top twenty percent, which they will continue to
• 1:49:04
  do. And if you say to women, yeah, you can perfectly.
• 1:49:08
  You can live a promiscuous lifestyle. You can have you can have birth control,
• 1:49:11
  you can have abortion, you can choose whatever men you want. You
• 1:49:14
  don't have to expect any kind of commitment because you don't aren't going to be
• 1:49:17
  raising children whatever. If you give them women this, this is what they
• 1:49:21
  do. They select based on who makes their girlfriends jealous. That's the top
• 1:49:28
  twenty percent of men, not the average man. The average man is out
• 1:49:30
  of shit, out of luck. It doesn't matter what he does because because
• 1:49:38
  the problem is that he can increase his odds. Sure, but ultimately we
• 1:49:45
  need enough women to say I don't want to be the top twenty percent side
• 1:49:51
  piece and compete with all my girlfriends for a man that will make them jealous.
• 1:49:56
  I just want a relationship. And until enough women say that, we
• 1:50:00
  are with this situation. And you justify it by saying, well, those
• 1:50:03
  men who are lower, you know they're not worth it anyway, so it's
• 1:50:08
  deserved to just throw them away. Okay, Well, what you're throwing away,
• 1:50:13
  what the average woman is throwing away is a relationship M one or the
• 1:50:18
  other. And again it's women who have to choose. Men cannot change any
• 1:50:23
  of this. All right, I'm gonna play more. Look at this,
• 1:50:28
  I ask chat GPT. The average body count for a woman between twenty five
• 1:50:31
  and forty four is four point two and for man at six point one.
• 1:50:36
  That means fewer guys are having more sex. Yes, absolutely, And you
• 1:50:42
  have this giant bottom of the pyramid group of guys, like you said at
• 1:50:46
  the beginning, who are feeling left out and like they're they're never gonna get
• 1:50:49
  a girl, which you're gonna burn the place of the ground. Yeah.
• 1:50:53
  Oh, Actually, what's interesting people need to update their their theories and ideas
• 1:50:59
  here because what seems to be happening is that women are also now catching up
• 1:51:05
  with the sexlessness of men because the realities, we've broken the entire system for
• 1:51:12
  men and women, and apparently there is a substantial group of women who neither
• 1:51:17
  want to be in a relationship with ten other women and one man, nor
• 1:51:23
  are they kate for whatever reason, they can't seem to get into a relationship
• 1:51:28
  with the average man. Because what we've really done is we've broken the structures
• 1:51:32
  that were in place that sort of you know, shuffled people along into relationships.
• 1:51:38
  Like, we've just totally fucked that. That has nothing to do with
• 1:51:40
  men or women. We've just screwed it. It's gone. We don't really
• 1:51:45
  have extended families anymore, we don't really have the social functions we used to
• 1:51:48
  have where people could meet in a not as sexually charged an atmosphere as like
• 1:51:58
  clubs. You know, I don't even think we of clubs anymore. So,
• 1:52:00
  I mean it's like there's so few avenues by which the average men and
• 1:52:05
  the average woman can meet each other. So it's almost a remarkable feat that
• 1:52:10
  they do now. But here's the thing, Like a lot of women don't
• 1:52:14
  want to be part of the dating algorithm as it is now, and the
• 1:52:17
  dating algorithm produces one outcome twenty percent of men, five women for every man.
• 1:52:25
  That's what it's producing because it's broken, right, So now women are
• 1:52:29
  in a situation where they're not getting relationships because there are many women who don't
• 1:52:33
  want that, but there's no way for them to get sorted into relationships with
• 1:52:38
  men. And also the real like and what I think also is happening is
• 1:52:44
  because of all of this nonsense and all of this TikTok, high volume TikTok
• 1:52:48
  nonsense, that's making men who are average lose all faith that they can find
• 1:52:55
  a woman who actually cares about them. What's ending up happening is they are
• 1:53:00
  opting out of engaging with women entirely, and that has a knockdown effect that
• 1:53:06
  even more ruining women's chances if they're not in like the top like up six
• 1:53:11
  and above right right. So it's like all of these con factors are coming
• 1:53:15
  together and now we have a lot of sexless women because this was not a
• 1:53:21
  problem. This is not just a problem that men face. Ultimately meant women
• 1:53:26
  are going to face it down the line because we have as a society we
• 1:53:30
  are not making the average woman, the average man a catch for the average
• 1:53:35
  woman like someone that she's going to be interested in. We are not doing
• 1:53:41
  that work. We're not getting them together, we're not giving any assistance,
• 1:53:45
  and we're also stripping men of all of their unique types of value. Like
• 1:53:50
  in the past, women chose men because they knew masculinity itself had a value.
• 1:53:58
  I mean Tim goes and says, well, women or they start at
• 1:54:00
  a four because they can give birth. But in the past, masculinity itself
• 1:54:03
  was seen to have value. But we're not allowed to do that because if
• 1:54:06
  we say masculinity has its own unique value, we are excluding women from it.
• 1:54:12
  So we can't even present men as a tract having their own and unique
• 1:54:15
  attractiveness points relative to women. When and simultaneous to that, we present them
• 1:54:23
  as a terrible option for companionship for women. So we strip men of all
• 1:54:27
  their unique value, we present them as a terrible option of companionship for women.
• 1:54:31
  We have basically destroyed all of the more casual ways for the average men
• 1:54:35
  and women to hook up. So now we have a huge female sexlessness problem.
• 1:54:45
  Do they care now or wait wait sorry, let me apply, let
• 1:54:49
  me channel my tim pool, my inner tim pool. Those women they deserve
• 1:54:57
  to be selected out of this steam pool. They're losers. Just let them
• 1:55:01
  rot in the grave, like why they live there? Unmarriageable, they have
• 1:55:06
  no marriage prospects. They're big fat female zeros like you gotta throw some I
• 1:55:15
  don't know, man's in there. I don't know, man. They deserve
• 1:55:21
  to be sexless. I'm not taking sides, but yeah, it looks like
• 1:55:26
  you're a loser. Yeah, the lady, you're a loser. Also also
• 1:55:30
  looking up asking chat GPT loll, I'm surprised you got something coherent. Well,
• 1:55:38
  and he's paying for chat GPT fur, so you know whoa look out.
• 1:55:43
  We got a badass over here. The bias is a lot more like
• 1:55:45
  streamlined. So anyway, let's let's Uh, let's finish this off because we're
• 1:55:51
  at the end. Please. In general, is not sustainable for for like
• 1:55:55
  multiple reasons. You have the conversation you guys had last week about how all
• 1:55:59
  these girls thinking jumping on OnlyFans and making money that way is a good thing,
• 1:56:03
  But it's having every girl be an Instagram model or a sex worker produces
• 1:56:08
  no actual value. There's nothing of value being actually produced in the economy.
• 1:56:12
  It's just money that's getting. What we have frickin' done is we have destroyed
• 1:56:17
  pair bonding in our society, right, and we look at the people who
• 1:56:23
  are sort of winning, you know, the sixer aboves, the women who
• 1:56:26
  are sixer aboves, who are able to actually interest the twenty the top twenty
• 1:56:30
  percent. But really what we should look at is how our society has failed
• 1:56:34
  the average and below average man and woman, because they are the ones who
• 1:56:40
  are going to really suffer the relationship. For men and women, a relationship,
• 1:56:45
  a marriage is a source of health. It is a source of health
• 1:56:48
  happiness. It is a source of economic wellbeing. It is a sort of
• 1:56:53
  a cushion from the blows of the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. It
• 1:56:58
  is companionship. It's all all kinds of good things, and we our society
• 1:57:02
  has fundamentally destroyed it. And we look at what's happening on dating apps.
• 1:57:09
  We've turned it's turned into the only people who are getting anything out of it
• 1:57:14
  apparently are the six and above and the top twenty percent of men. And
• 1:57:20
  we look at that, and we're like, you can look at that,
• 1:57:23
  and you can say, well, women are really you know, making out
• 1:57:27
  like bank But are they? You know? And certainly they aren't if you
• 1:57:32
  go low enough, if you go low in the attractiveness hierarchy. And I'm
• 1:57:36
  not saying that women you know, women worset wn nom mist affected, but
• 1:57:40
  women are affected, not as badly as men. They can still get something.
• 1:57:46
  But apparently now even now even that something isn't isn't sufficient. Okay,
• 1:57:53
  let's finish the right. This is like the last twenty something seconds, so
• 1:57:57
  as well just go through, go ahead and do it. Yea from people
• 1:58:00
  who actually are producers. And combined with the super low birth rates, we're
• 1:58:05
  already seeing like logistical problems, uh, supply chain problems you have Japan and
• 1:58:11
  Canada, you know, euthanizing the elderly because there's more people in diapers that
• 1:58:15
  are old than young. It's not a sustainable situation, and the correction is
• 1:58:18
  gonna suck. There's multiple ways it could happen, but none of it's gonna
• 1:58:21
  be kind of she's got a good point. Yeah, I mean, her
• 1:58:29
  primary like concern is about basically people forming families. But but I think that,
• 1:58:39
  you know, they got to want to, and YE think I don't
• 1:58:42
  think. I don't think women right now, I don't think they want to.
• 1:58:45
  Yeah, it don't seem to be I think men do. I think
• 1:58:47
  men still do. I don't think women do. I think that women see
• 1:58:51
  family and all that as oppression and you've got to shake them out of it.
• 1:58:58
  And I don't think I don't think men can solve this problem. You
• 1:59:00
  know, like we've been saying, mm hmm. Yeah, Well, women
• 1:59:04
  have to choose, like they gotta that this is the choice that they have
• 1:59:09
  to make. That choice. They have to choose whether or not they want
• 1:59:13
  a relationship where if they want a man who's gonna make their girlfriends jealous and
• 1:59:17
  if they and the other thing is that that itself is actually destroying their relationships
• 1:59:25
  with each other. So they got to choose human connection or narcissism, and
• 1:59:30
  uh yeah, a lot of them. Like and like I said, there
• 1:59:33
  seems to be a lot of them who are actually just choosing to to inceell
• 1:59:39
  I guess, to just go off on their own and just not do anything
• 1:59:44
  now because they just don't want to be part of the system. But now
• 1:59:49
  we got to figure out how to get those two groups together. We need
• 1:59:53
  to get the the women who are now sexless together with the men who are
• 1:59:58
  sexless, and then we will triumph. Yep, yep. That's and like
• 2:00:05
  I said, it's just our society has just given up on actually helping men
• 2:00:10
  and women get together, and instead of actually fixing the problem, we continue
• 2:00:15
  to blame men. We continue to say, well, while men just need
• 2:00:17
  them to measure up. It's like, well, you know what, actually,
• 2:00:21
  now that I think about it, if women are opting out of this
• 2:00:25
  whole system entirely, that means that it's not the men, because they're even
• 2:00:30
  opting out on trying to compete for the top twenty percent of men. They're
• 2:00:35
  just opting out because this whole system is soulless. Maybe the problem is the
• 2:00:42
  dynamic, not men or women. Although there are some aspects of the dynamic
• 2:00:45
  that women have not taken responsibility for that they can into a better effect.
• 2:00:49
  So like, yeah, anyway, that's my thoughts. All right, So
• 2:00:54
  I'm going to Brian, do you have any final thoughts. Well, the
• 2:01:00
  comments section is pretty great. A lot of guys are here saying sure Tim
• 2:01:05
  is taking a big old l lots of l's here for Tim. So there
• 2:01:11
  is that I think they I don't know, Like, I guess there's there's
• 2:01:15
  a good it's a it's It does make me a little bit warm and fuzzy
• 2:01:21
  on the inside to see a lot of men saying nope, not doing it
• 2:01:28
  is so strong, such a strong man. Every woman's desire, right,
• 2:01:30
  Yeah, that's lobster a little less. Just just pull the lobstring back,
• 2:01:39
  just yeah, just not engage, Yeah, just engage the philosophy more than
• 2:01:45
  the lobsterring, you know. Yeah, uh yeah. There's a lot of
• 2:01:50
  guys that are not that are not thrilled with his takes. And that's good.
• 2:01:56
  I see that. Yeah. And and honestly, there's a lot that's
• 2:02:00
  happening, and there's stuff happening economically that is making it difficult. The upward
• 2:02:05
  mobility is gone, so there's a lot of men who can't even crack into
• 2:02:10
  that top twenty percent. Now you know what's funny is like I'm sorry,
• 2:02:14
  go ahead, I'm sorry, No, no, cool. Well, I
• 2:02:15
  was just gonna say, there's just not a lot of men who can't crack
• 2:02:17
  into that top twenty percent or at least even create like a small business that
• 2:02:21
  might be attractive to women. You know, it's it's like the economic fat
• 2:02:27
  berg at the top is preventing upward mobility from men, which is going to
• 2:02:30
  reduce their romantic prospects. And then we have all of the institutional narratives about
• 2:02:35
  how men are terrible partners and that masculinity has no inherent value. Like we
• 2:02:42
  honestly as a society when I pose to myself, is it possible to be
• 2:02:50
  even more at war with the idea of para bonding? Could our society do
• 2:02:56
  anything more to try to destroy the relationship between men and women? Could our
• 2:03:00
  institutions do anything more to try to destroy the relationship between men and women?
• 2:03:06
  And I have to say that it's a stumper, because I think we're basically
• 2:03:12
  doing everything we can to destroy the relationship between men and women. I mean,
• 2:03:16
  are NGOs promoting feminist narratives about men using domestic violence and sexual assault oppress
• 2:03:24
  to oppress women. Academia saying that masculinity has no inherent worth whatsoever, social
• 2:03:31
  scientists saying that lying about how single women are happier than married. I'm not
• 2:03:36
  sure there's anything more we could do to destroy the relationship between men and women.
• 2:03:41
  But of course, as always, men are to blame well, and
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  I want to just another thing I was just thinking about. So men have
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  essentially, throughout all of human history tried to build and create and cooperate to
• 2:04:05
  create a space or society and a civilization for the purposes of protecting women and
• 2:04:14
  children so that they can continue their legacy, and the human race can thrive
• 2:04:18
  and grow, you know. And you can look at it in a biblical
• 2:04:21
  sense where God's told Adam to go build the garden outside, right, Essentially
• 2:04:28
  Adam the first man to build society for eve and to raise their children.
• 2:04:33
  And we have been developing new technologies, new ways of you know, looking
• 2:04:41
  at the world, measuring the world, mathematics and science and architecture and agriculture
• 2:04:46
  and hurting and hunting and building and building and protecting, and technology and the
• 2:04:53
  industrialization and so on, and we have basically almost I think we're like basically
• 2:04:59
  at the hot like we're reaching the level cap of like provision for women.
• 2:05:02
  We're at the point now where there's a computer right here that used to be
• 2:05:06
  the size of a building like less like one hundred years ago, right,
• 2:05:11
  maybe less than a hundred years ago, and we if we have never lived
• 2:05:15
  in a safer time, a more abundant time, a more provided for and
• 2:05:20
  protected time. And it seems like the women are still asking for the men
• 2:05:26
  to be like the pioneers, like the guys that were that were like,
• 2:05:30
  oh, I just I just can't came up with this thing. It's called
• 2:05:31
  an aqueduct, and it's like another guy, Oh, it's great, what
• 2:05:34
  does it? Do you know? I've just developed indoor plumbing. Wow?
• 2:05:39
  And and women would have been grateful at the time, but today they're like,
• 2:05:43
  well, I don't know. I mean, like, do I have
• 2:05:45
  the newest phone? And I think that yeah, how yeah, we've but
• 2:05:53
  but like, like how much more like how many in how many new and
• 2:05:59
  novel ways can man provide and protect for women? Like? And they did
• 2:06:02
  it. The thing is is that women are talking about this in an individual
• 2:06:05
  basis, right, like I want a man who could do this. But
• 2:06:09
  what happened and it was better. We're better for it is that men as
• 2:06:13
  a group came together and they said, okay, we all want to do
• 2:06:15
  stuff for our ladies. Right. They're like, yeah, okay, how
• 2:06:17
  about we build like cities, power grids, plumbing, water that's clean and
• 2:06:25
  will invent stuff. And look, there's there's other there's a there are men
• 2:06:29
  over there. They want to take our shit. Let's blow them away so
• 2:06:32
  that we can protect ours, right, and they and they built on this.
• 2:06:35
  We have now we have cars and jets so women can travel and we
• 2:06:40
  and and women are getting all of this from men as a group, but
• 2:06:45
  they're not recognizing it in the individuals. They're just like, well, what
• 2:06:47
  did you do? You know? So it comes back to that old Eddie
• 2:06:53
  Murphy joke, what have you done for me lately? And I guess it's
• 2:06:56
  just they're too close to how good they have it. But it feels like
• 2:07:01
  men haven't really slowed down, like they're still making gains you know, in
• 2:07:08
  a in a I don't like to see it as collective, and men generally
• 2:07:11
  don't like to think of themselves as part of a collective. But if you
• 2:07:14
  look at it as a as a nation or as a as a society,
• 2:07:17
  as Western civilization, we have made tremendous gains. And I would say that
• 2:07:25
  most of it was inspired by a desire to create a safe place for men.
• 2:07:32
  And they're too for men's wives and their children to thrive. That's it,
• 2:07:38
  that's all they wanted. Men go to war for that. Men will
• 2:07:41
  go to the mines, coal mines for that. They'll get the black love
• 2:07:44
  for that. They'll get on a ship and go out, you know,
• 2:07:47
  and and fucking catch Alaskan crab for elites in New York Manhattan for that.
• 2:07:53
  They'll they'll do whatever. And women are just like, you're not doing enough,
• 2:07:59
  you know. I don't I don't want that. And and people like
• 2:08:01
  Tim are like step up guys from his again, air conditioned internet, high
• 2:08:07
  speed internet access, with all this technology, a lot of it was built
• 2:08:11
  by child labor, by the way, and it's just no no, no
• 2:08:16
  sense of gratitude, no humility. I'm I'm incredibly humble when I think about
• 2:08:20
  that, But it's true. So I don't know that sounds like a boast.
• 2:08:24
  I don't mean to boast about my humilities. I am so incredibly I
• 2:08:30
  am the humblest guy. So I am even more humble than that, Like
• 2:08:35
  I just am so Okay, all right, so once again, if you
• 2:08:39
  want to send him, send us a message. Oh actually, I think
• 2:08:41
  we got one right. We got a super child and we got a rubble
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  rant. So all right, let's let's do that, all right, do
• 2:08:48
  you uh here, I'll do it. Yeah, So ZARAANX gave us five
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  bucks. That's the last one, right on the note that we used to
• 2:08:56
  know these things. There's a channel called Far from Eden that I've won a
• 2:09:00
  few videos of. Every Sunday she reads stories that have to do with the
• 2:09:03
  old grim Tales. The last one she did she talked about what makes a
• 2:09:09
  good wife. I haven't finished it. She appears to have gotten some acknowledgment
• 2:09:13
  from a Migtow guy. I don't know they had a stream, but I
• 2:09:16
  didn't finish it. Wow, there's a lot of there was this thing,
• 2:09:20
  but I didn't. I don't know what it is. I do like the
• 2:09:22
  stories that she's reading. Don't know. If Brian would like to check out
• 2:09:24
  her channel, I could link the last video or the previous one in the
• 2:09:28
  discord. Yeah, sure, go ahead. It's called Far from Eden.
• 2:09:33
  I feel like I've heard of that actually, So there's that. And then
• 2:09:37
  I got a rumble rant from Nova fan twenty one who says Temple has a
• 2:09:43
  girlfriend literally talking down from his ivory tower to the common men. Well,
• 2:09:48
  you know, sometimes when a man gets a girl that puts them, they
• 2:09:54
  realize how fortunate they are, or maybe they think they deserve it. I
• 2:09:58
  don't know. No, and the man gets a girl, it means that,
• 2:10:01
  you know, he realizes how incredibly awesome and how every other man should
• 2:10:05
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