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- Andrea Renkas: Hey everybody, welcome back to the Motherhood Alliance podcast. We are here with Tina from Roots of Healing. Welcome back, Tina. Tina Wankey: Thank you for having me. Andrea Renkas: Yeah, absolutely. We had a this is our second episode with Tina and our first episode, we really talked a lot about your story. We talked about, you know, just going from hairdresser and accountant, possibly to what you're doing now, which is just amazing. You have so many just amazing different modalities and ⁓ opportunities especially women to take advantage of and just to rediscover their identities. And that's what we talked about. Tina Wankey: Yep. Andrea Renkas: in the first episode. if you guys haven't had a chance to listen to that, definitely take a listen. It was it was really interesting. And I think that we can take a lot out of that. With this episode, we're actually going to be talking about sound medicine. And that's something that we touched on briefly at the end of the last episode. ⁓ I'm very interested in this one in particular, because I do love, you know, different kinds of sometimes certain songs and sounds are for Britney: Hi everyone, we are Brit and Drea from motherhoodalliance.com and we are excited to welcome you to a three episode series with Tina Wankey the founder of Roots of Healing. Tina began her career as a mental health therapist, eventually expanding into integrative modalities that support the whole person, including psychotherapy, wellness coaching, hypnotherapy, sound healing, and much more. She is most passionate about helping women who feel burned out, disconnected, or weighed down emotionally return to clarity, confidence, and embodiment. Andrea Renkas: you know, working out and high intensity things or whatever. And then there's some that are really more calming and you know, just helps you just really focus in deeper into yourself, which can be hard sometimes, which is something we talked about in the last episode as well. But first of all, let's just talk about what is sound therapy? How do you use it in your practice? Tina Wankey: Yeah, so there's there's different types of sound therapy. So it just depends on the person and what they've been trained in and how they're utilizing it. So I am trained in biofield tuning, which I utilize tuning forks for. And then I also have some singing bowls that I also utilize in the process. And then there's also on a frequency level. Britney: Outside of her work, Tina enjoys early morning workouts, being in nature, traveling, and spending time with her family. Tina Wankey: where you're not necessarily hearing things, but you're getting impacted by frequencies that are being admitted that help to reset the body. There's a number of different tools to use in that sense. So it's almost like it's a quiet sound therapy. Andrea Renkas: ⁓ that's interesting. So is that using that biofield tuning like tuning forks or is that something a little different? Tina Wankey: No, it's yeah, there's a number of different things in relation to that. So my head's kind of bouncing to a couple different things. So there's a device called Schumann resonance, ⁓ and it you can set it to different frequencies. And I want to talk a little bit later about this because it'll tie into some other things we're going to talk about. Andrea Renkas: Okay. Tina Wankey: in another episode. So I don't want to give away too much there. what happens is there's a software system that I have that assesses energy, and assesses physical and emotional. And then there ⁓ are a device that you can use. And one of the devices is a gem actually a wearable. If you can, if you're watching, you can see it, it looks like a just like a Fitbit or anything like that. ⁓ And it your energy and emits frequencies to reset the emotional that are happening so that you're not getting all the negative impact from those emotions that are happening. So you still have the emotions, but it helps reset it. So it's emitting a frequency and how it's like sound therapy is because all sound is about frequency. So whether you're hearing it or it or it's going into your energy field, it's still all based on frequency is all what it comes down to. So. Andrea Renkas: That is super interesting. Yeah. Britney: Let's get a little sciency. Can you walk us a little bit deeper into that? know, sound, there's light, light travels and well, we can see light, but sound travels and we can hear, but we can't see it. So like, how, and those are coming in waves, right? I'm going back to like science class here. Get a little nerdy on us. How is this actually working and what is it doing? Tina Wankey: Yup. Yup. Andrea Renkas: Yeah, yeah, especially that little device. That's interesting. Tina Wankey: Yeah, it really, I mean, it really is about the waves that happen. It's the frequency that comes out of it. So there's different frequencies, different pitches. So if you think about music, there's different tones, there's different, we have different experiences depending on the music that we listen to. So we might have really good, happy memories about a certain song. And when we hear that song, our vibration just raises. And then if there's, might be certain songs where it has a negative connection to it. then it just might bring you down. Like it just kind of, just brings your energy level down. brings your mood down. So ⁓ what happening is it's just, really is just simply vibration. So if you think about, ⁓ if you're at a concert and you're in front of those speakers, I mean, you feel the speakers vibrate through you. It is not you just don't you just don't hear it. You feel it. So every sound, every note has a frequency that comes out, a vibration that comes out. And by that vibration then has an impact on us. What they have found is like you could go and do YouTube video searches and this is really cool. So if you're up for it, I'd say go for it. they will have ⁓ sand ⁓ say I don't know, I can't remember what they have it sitting on. A speaker, a speaker. And then they change the tone. And then the sand actually goes into different patterns based on the tone. So it has an impact on that sand that's sitting on top of the speaker. And then it changes into really cool geometric shapes. So if you really want to check that out and go for it, because it's pretty cool to look at. that sand changes into different shapes. ⁓ actually Andrea Renkas: ⁓ yeah. super cool. Tina Wankey: influences us. So when we hear certain sounds, that changes our chemistry in how we're feeling. That's how we can go from feeling really happy about something. And then we might go down if the song changes. Or you're in really listening to a really upbeat song, like let's say you're at a wedding, and then they go down to the slow song. And then everybody's all lovey dovey. And it's all you know, the happy emotions that come with it. your whole, like you change. Or you might get really irritated and be like, I want to get out of here. I don't want to listen to this because there's bad, like a bad breakup that just happened. So there's different connections that happen. Britney: Do different instruments dictate how this is going? Or is it really like middle C, no matter what instrument it's coming from is going to have a certain effect from you? Because you talked about having like the tuning forks in the sound bowls and I like those are going to be different than having a saxophone. So does that part matter? Andrea Renkas: Yeah. Tina Wankey: Yes. Yeah, well, it varies from person to person as to what resonates with them, I guess, would be a good way to put it. So ⁓ sound of a certain instrument can feel nice to someone and then to someone else, they may not like it. Just like how we like different of music, it's the same thing. So like for some people, being able to sit in a sound bath. if someone's doing like the singing bowls, and they're doing a whole sound bath experience. For someone, they can sit in that and that can be very peaceful for them. Another person might like a different type of music or a different type of sound. So for them, they might not be able to get as chill in it. But what I've noticed is overall, if some, like let's say someone's coming into a session for me, they're wanting to get calm. They're wanting to get, you know, they want to take in those sounds. So they're interested in what the tuning forks are doing and how that's resonating with them. And the tuning forks, produce a frequency. So each tuning fork has a different frequency. ⁓ when you strike that tuning fork, it emits the frequency. So like, just think about the vibration. So there's vibrations going out. And what happens is, is that ⁓ body wants to resonate with what that vibration is. because those vibrations are a positive healing vibration. So the body wants to take and resonate with it and become incoherent with it. So if you would take and Google metronomes and getting them in sync, I can't remember what the exact words would be that you would need. But if you would, there's some videos out there. If you take two metronomes and you set them at different paces, So they're not in sync. They will get in sync with each other. And that is not something that's not like an electrical, like something you plug in and you can like, you know, like they can get in sync with each other. Like if you have like a keyboard, electric keyboard where you can get everything all lined up. Like if you set a metronome and you set another one to different speed. Andrea Renkas: super interesting. Britney: Hmm. Tina Wankey: you know, they're supposed to go at whatever speed they're at, but they can get in sync with each other and pair up because they're wanting to get in tune with each other. So it's, it's very interesting. So our bodies want to be in tune with those pure tones, those healing tones. So when they hear it, they tend to pull towards them. Britney: Yeah. Can you target certain physical symptoms with this? Like you're talking about the tuning forks. Is that something where if somebody has a shoulder injury, you are like using a certain frequency and like touching that shoulder and it's driving those vibrations into that shoulder? Or is this more of sound goes everywhere so it's impacting your whole body? Tina Wankey: Okay, so it's both. so I only do virtual work. So not in person. And what they found during the ⁓ COVID is the of biofield tuning, Eileen Mikusik, ⁓ she took and discovered you have the same impact, whether you're virtual or in person. So if I have someone, let's say someone has a shoulder injury. Then I can take the tuning forks on the table that I have. have like a map that has like a body on it and I can actually take and put the tuning forks as if they were like here in person and that will shift. So I have people when I'm doing tuning fork sessions say I feel tightness in my neck and then I can focus on that area with the tuning forks as if they were in person. So they don't have to be in person to get the same benefit. It can be from a distance. Britney: That is super interesting. Doesn't quite make sense in my head, but like I feel like that's something you just have to experience, right? And, and, and try it for yourself. But what about, so that's like a physical symptom. What about more of like a mental, emotional symptom, like anxiety? Are there certain frequencies then that you would use to target different emotions? Tina Wankey: Okay. Yeah, so with the biofield tuning and the protocol that I do, how it works is we take and identify what's the issue that we want to focus on. So if we have someone saying, like, I'm, you know, struggling with the anxiety, I do is there is a whole protocol that I go through in regards to clearing the biofield. And I'm talking about the biofield, it's like the energy that's around you goes about five feet out from you. in the process of a tuning session with them, I have the intention there that we're clearing out the anxiety. We're clearing out that specific feeling that's happening. And it's the events that are tied to it. So when we go around the biofield, I start at the feet and there's something the Earth Star. It's an energetic ball. There's one at the feet and then there's one called the Sun Star that's above your head. And what I do is I use a tuning fork to move that ball of energy about eight inches below the feet, because that's where it's supposed to be. And then the same for above the head, eight inches above, because those get tucked into the body because of all the stress and the things that we're interacting with. So we get those set. And then I take and identify which chakra we're going to work on. And I still have that intention. We're clearing out the anxiety. ⁓ I'm able to identify, what chakra is this being held on where there is the best opportunity to work to clear it out. Then I go five feet out from the side of the body and I'll determine which side I'm going to go to. this is your whole timeline to ⁓ with. the farthest edge is like your ancestors before you. Then it goes to ⁓ parents, ⁓ pregnancy, to birth, to your current age that is at your body. And when I go through the biofield, what I'm doing is I'm striking a tuning fork and I'm listening, feeling, and intuitively getting things that are telling me what's happening, what's coming up, where are the trip ups that are connected to that anxiety. So for some people, I mean, it could be so many different things, but like mom being pregnant, was it stressful? Was it not? How was the delivery? All of those things impact the baby. and then they might carry it forward. So if you have a kid that tends to be very anxious, like from birth, always seems like there's some like anxiousness, upsetness that's happening. I always ask people, how was the pregnancy? How was your mom during that pregnancy? Was it stressful during that time or was she pretty calm? And then we just take and focus on clearing out whatever energy disruptions come. So I will notice that the sound changes. There's a feeling that changes. The tuning fork actually won't let me go. Like it's almost like it stops. And that's where there's an energetic disruption that's happening. So when I hit that, the sound of the tuning fork and that disruption of energy, it wants to get in tune with it and clear up and reset. So it helps to reset it to get it. into a more positive flow of energy, a more coherent flow. So we have more coherence throughout the whole energy field. Andrea Renkas: this all online that you're doing this? Because I obviously in that's fascinating. So is fascinating. So obviously, I mean, we talked about you're doing this all online and you can do you do this with like your little your body and then that person is listening or that person is with you online and you're communicating and that's Wow, okay. Tina Wankey: Yep, it's all on my. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Britney: Yeah, one of my questions too was, I think you kind of answered it, but is this something where if you're talking about anxiety, specific, or let's talk about something like a panic attack, right? If somebody has ⁓ fear of a common one is flying, right? And they're going to be going on a trip and they come and see you right before, like the day before, because they need, ⁓ just want to feel calm about it and kind of clear themselves. Is this something that would be like a short-term fix type thing, or is this something that would be able to almost cure the panic attack from the beginning and like the trigger of it. So that's kind of where I was going to go is like, I hate to say it like this, but is it almost like a quarter zone shot where it's like a short-term solution or is it like getting to the root of the problem? Tina Wankey: Great. Great. Yeah, well to get to the root of the problem, now panic is an interesting one because sometimes there can be absolutely no valid reason for it and we're having panic attacks. Like it's just ⁓ the system almost, you know, like is misfiring and there's no valid reason for it. So like flying, there might be a valid reason just depending on the situation. ⁓ depending on what's happening, there, I mean, there could be different things that we could look at. Like there could be hypnotherapy ⁓ that more time. to be able to shift that a little bit more. We could do a session to see, like if it is the day before, we can always see, can we clear that out and they'll be okay for the flight? Or do they need more work? It's like really a hit and miss, I can't say for sure. Just like in general, sometimes it can be a one-and-done session depending on what's happening. And sometimes it needs to be more, it just depends on the person. We might peel layers back on the onion and then that's getting deeper. So as we're doing a session, we're still removing stuff. just might be there's more work that needs to be done. if we were like animals, it's different. Animals, I can tune an animal and there are ⁓ so times it can be a one and done. ⁓ Britney: What are you noticing with them? And I guess why would someone, is there like a certain symptom or something that ⁓ would indicate that an animal benefit from this? Tina Wankey: Yeah, like if some if an animal is having behavioral issues. So like I've had an animal who and I know nothing about the animals history when I work with them. for a couple that I did, there's a there was trauma associated like they came from a puppy mill, or they were attacked by another dog, or they had an abusive owner before. Like there's ⁓ there's like an unknown history. ⁓ what happens is, is that they respond quicker and faster. Andrea Renkas: Right. Tina Wankey: because they're not as layered as we are, as complicated as we are. So they tend to respond a lot easier to shifting those frequencies. So it'd be nice if us humans would be the same. Unfortunately, we are not as quick to react. So yeah, I mean, it ultimately depends on the person as to if it can be a one and done or if it's going to be multiple, but there's no way to determine ahead of time. Andrea Renkas: Hehehehehe Mm-hmm. Yeah. Britney: Now, if we kind of combine episode one into this episode, so like people who are just kind of chronically stressed and it could be major things like a job that is chronically stressing you out, or it could just be chronic overstimulation of being a parent, right? How often would you say it would be beneficial to experience one of these? Tina Wankey: Yes. Yeah, so it can be weekly. Like have one package where it's like a weekly, like a six session where ⁓ it's once a week, every week. You can spread it out a little farther depending on the person. Some people who are very sensitive to energy, like they really are sensitive. notice Sometimes they have to be stretched out a little for that integration to happen a little easier. So yeah, it varies from person to person. Andrea Renkas: So when you're saying like, somebody who has a bit more sensitive energy, I think, I think of like, when you're talking about this, and we have like five foot, right, energy field, right? It's like talking to somebody and it's like, I know that me and her, we have a good vibe, right? Or like me and him, there's about that person that that vibe isn't there, right? And it's not like you can really say, Tina Wankey: Mm-hmm. that means. Andrea Renkas: But I know like some people are very sensitive or empathetic, right? And so maybe is that the type of person that would be more sensitive to that energy change? Or can you talk more about like that vibe that people kind of can really relate to? Tina Wankey: Yeah, yeah. So the person who's like is very empathetic, really sense other people's energy very readily and they can take it in too much. ⁓ then that can ⁓ turn, turn into like anxiety and their own emotions because they're coming in so intensely. ⁓ And they're going to pick up on other people's a lot easier as to how it's impacting them, where some people can be totally oblivious to other people's energy. But then sometimes people don't realize that they're picking up on energy. Like when you walk into a room and you're just like this, like, I don't know, you're talking to a person and they just kind of give you that, I don't know, like it feels off kind of feeling. You're picking up on their energy. When you're jiving with someone, you know, your energy is in alignment. Andrea Renkas: Yeah. Tina Wankey: like your free, like there's that coherence that's happening. Cause you're like, yeah, like this person, like you just feel a different energy. And then someone who is different, who just is vibrating at a different frequency, it just might feel off or feel funky or feel, just feel different. Andrea Renkas: Yeah. Britney: Does the frequency that we vibrate at, that kind of determined by the state of our nervous system? Like if someone is really stressed, are they going to kind of give off a different frequency? Or is it really almost like personality based, where it's kind of you're born with a certain ⁓ and that's how is. So yeah, explain that a little bit more. Tina Wankey: Yeah, it'll be, yeah, the mood that you're in, the emotions that you're experiencing, how your nervous system is, definitely gonna give off different frequencies and different vibes. And that's where family can be impacted by that too. Like your kids and everything, yeah. Andrea Renkas: That makes sense. Yeah. Britney: Well, that's a perfect lead in to our next episode because going to be talking about how our kind of frequency or thermostat, I always like to say, as the mom can really dictate how our entire house is, is feeling. so we're going to, I feel like that's a, that's a real thing that we've all experienced. And so before we finish out sound therapy, I know you talked about your do fully virtual. you do, I'm guessing probably. Tina Wankey: Yes. Britney: Maybe not, but do you do any sort of like group virtual sessions with this or is it just one-on-one? Tina Wankey: ⁓ I only do one-on-one. Some people do group I haven't done that yet. ⁓ doesn't mean that I'm not going to. I just have been mainly focused on one-on-one sessions. ⁓ if there was ⁓ interest where someone wanted to have like maybe there's a group of ladies or something that wanted to have some type of group session ⁓ on a issue, it would be on a particular issue, ⁓ then that occur. But otherwise, right now I've been doing just like the one-on-one sessions. Andrea Renkas: Yeah. Britney: Okay, and then one other question just from my own personal experience that I wanted to ask you is I attended one sound bath so far in my life and it was really interesting experience. I did enjoy it, but I did find myself like I was you know, I was laying there on a mat for like 40 minutes and for me I'm like, I would just love to just be able to like stretch and move while this is going on, but I also didn't know if like movement Tina Wankey: and Mm-hmm. Britney: if the vibrations and the point of doing it is better when you're laying still or if moving can be integrated. like if somebody's doing listening to a sound bath on YouTube, is it better to be laying still or can you do it? Can you listen to it while you're like moving around and still gain benefit? Tina Wankey: If your body feels like it's wanting to move, then it's probably wanting to release some energy. So when I'm doing tuning for sessions, sometimes I'm like wiggling because I feel that energy coming through and I need to let it go. I will yawn. will, ⁓ it lots of exhales. Like our body is impacted by that energy. So if you're feeling like you need to move, I would say like, if you're listening to something at home and you're feeling like I have to move, check in and see like, Am I wanting to move because I'm feeling impatient or like needing to do something or am I wanting to move because I feel like that's going to help the flow of that energy come through me? So like when you're at a sound bath, they're going to have you be still most of the time. So you're just taking it in and your body's just absorbing it. Andrea Renkas: How focused. Yeah. Mm. Tina Wankey: But if you're listening to it, that's part of the reason why they just want you to lay, relax, float in water. There's lots of different ways that they have you do it. It's just so you're taking it in. So when I do a tuning fork session, are off. So you are just focused on yourself. Because moving my iPad around as I'm moving. So all you're going to do is see a screen. ⁓ Or ceiling, I mean. Britney: you Tina Wankey: ⁓ But I want you in tune with your body is the big thing. I don't want you paying attention to what's happening. On my end, I want you to pay attention to what's happening in your body. So when you're just laying there, it just allows you to experience the impact that it's happening, where if you are moving around and listening to it, you may or may not notice those subtleties that might you might pick up on if you're just perfectly still and tuned in with yourself. Britney: Interesting. I learned a lot in this episode, so thanks for choosing this as a topic. It was very informational. Like we mentioned, we do have one more episode coming up with Tina. I'm excited for that one. I know it's going to be great as well. Thanks, Tina. Andrea Renkas: Yeah, me too. Tina Wankey: Thank you.