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From Acting to Music: Carolina Lopez's Artistic Evolution · Music Explored Podcast

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  About
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  you
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  have
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  your
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  own
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  brand
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  already
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  in
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  your
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  voice.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  always
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  sing.
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  And
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  I
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  remember
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  I
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  had
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  a,
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  like
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  a
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  tricky
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  experience
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  when
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  I
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  was
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  young
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  and
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  I
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  was
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  singing
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  in
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  front
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  of
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  people
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  and
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  my
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  voice
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  is
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  so
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  low.
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  Even
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  more
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  in
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  Spanish.
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  And
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  I
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  remember
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  I
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  had
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  the
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  process,
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  like
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  voice
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  changing
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  voice
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  a
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  little.
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  So
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  I
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  was
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  singing,
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  you
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  know,
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  so
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  confident.
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  And
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  then
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  it
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  came
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  up.
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  I
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  remember
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  I
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  pushed
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  myself
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  so
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  hard
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  and
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  I
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  did
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  one
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  of
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  those
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  promises
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  that
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  I
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  think
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  all
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  of
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  us
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  did
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  at
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  certain
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  point
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  that
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  killed
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  myself
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  a
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  little.
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  And
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  it
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  was
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  like,
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  you
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  know,
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  Carolina,
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  you
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  will
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  never
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  do
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  something
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  that
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  you
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  are
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  not
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  good,
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  really
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  good
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  enough.
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  So,
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  you
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  know,
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  if
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  you
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  check
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  that
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  is
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  like
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  you
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  are
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  killing
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  your
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  flies,
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  your
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  wings.
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  Sorry.
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  It's
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  because,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  just
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  realized
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  that
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  we
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  need
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  to
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  fail
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  to
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  grow
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  and
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  you
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  need
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  to
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  stop
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  doing
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  those
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  contracts
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  with
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  yourself.
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  So
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  talking
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  with
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  my
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  father,
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  he
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  said,
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  you
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  know
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  what,
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  Carolina,
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  you
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  have
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  a
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  really
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  special
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  one.
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  Weird
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  voice.
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  If
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  I
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  hear
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  you,
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  I
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  will
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  know
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  it's
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  you.
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  Right.
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  And
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  that
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  was
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  so
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  special
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  for
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  me
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  coming
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  from
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  him
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  because
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  he
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  was
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  that
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  old
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  school
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  type
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  of
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  singer.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  he
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  always,
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  when
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  I
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  was
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  younger,
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  he
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  was
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  always
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  watching
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  me
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  kind
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  of
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  like,
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  this
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  is
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  like
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  the
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  critical.
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  Yeah,
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  it's
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  weird,
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  you
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  know,
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  like,
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  ah,
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  the
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  new
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  generation.
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  Like
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  that.
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  When
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  he
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  told
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  me
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  that
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  he
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  was
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  so
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  serious
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  and
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  appreciative
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  about
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  what
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  I
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  was
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  doing
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  because
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  I
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  show
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  more
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  or
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  less
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  to
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  him
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  what
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  I
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  wanted
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  to
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  do.
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  And
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  he
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  was
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  so
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  impressed.
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  Like
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  rap,
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  flamenco,
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  what
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  is
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  that?
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  Is
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  that
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  a
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  new
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  genre?
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  And
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  yeah,
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  I
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  did
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  it.
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  And
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  at
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  that
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  time
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  I
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  showed
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  a
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  song
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  to
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  him.
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  He
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  was
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  so
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  proud.
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  And
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  he
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  asked
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  me
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  to
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  continue
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  singing.
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  He
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  said,
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  you
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  know
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  what?
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  Whatever
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  happened
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  to
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  me,
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  I
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  will
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  listen
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  to
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  you.
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  Wow.
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  Wherever
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  I.
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  It
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  doesn't
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  matter
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  where
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  I
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  am,
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  I.
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  I
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  can
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  listen
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  to
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  you
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  for
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  sure.
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  So
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  keep
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  singing
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  and
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  keep
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  writing
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  because
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  I
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  love
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  your
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  writing.
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  So
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  to
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  me,
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  that
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  was
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  so
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  empowerful.
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  Of
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  course.
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  Yes,
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  absolutely.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  is
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  that
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  what
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  propelled
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  you
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  to
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  kind
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  of
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  pursue
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  it
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  more?
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  Do
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  you
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  still
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  act,
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  by
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  the
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  way?
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  Yes,
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  I'm
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  still
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  acting,
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  but
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  I.
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  I
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  came
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  here
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  without
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  English.
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  So
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  I
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  have
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  been
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  here
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  for
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  three
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  years
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  and
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  a
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  half,
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  almost
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  four.
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  But
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  I
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  came
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  with
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  the
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  intention
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  of
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  doing
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  my
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  process
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  of
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  learning
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  English,
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  of
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  having
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  more
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  challenges.
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  And
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  yes,
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  I
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  have
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  been
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  doing
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  a
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  couple
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  things.
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  I
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  have
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  done
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  two
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  movies
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  and
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  some
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  short
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  films
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  here
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  in
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  Canada
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  and.
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  Yeah,
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  but
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  I'm
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  so
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  focused
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  in
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  my
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  music
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  right
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  now.
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  Yeah.
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  So
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  what's
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  that
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  process
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  like?
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  So
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  you
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  said
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  that
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  your
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  brother
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  is
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  a
• 3:20
  producer.
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  Yes.
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  Did
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  you
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  work
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  with
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  him
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  on
• 3:23
  your
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  first
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  music?
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  How
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  did
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  you
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  decide
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  in
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  2018,
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  as
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  an
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  adult
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  already,
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  I'm
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  going
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  to
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  start
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  making
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  music
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  now.
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  Do
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  you
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  come
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  with
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  lyrics?
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  Do
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  you
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  write
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  the
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  full
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  music?
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  Do
• 3:34
  you
• 3:34
  play
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  any
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  instruments?
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  Tell
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  us
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  about
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  the
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  process.
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  So
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  what
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  happened
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  was
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  like,
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  you
• 3:39
  know,
• 3:39
  I
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  had
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  already
• 3:40
  the
• 3:40
  platform
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  people
• 3:42
  recognized
• 3:43
  me
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  from
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  for
• 3:44
  my
• 3:44
  acting.
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  So
• 3:45
  I
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  guess
• 3:46
  it
• 3:46
  was
• 3:46
  easier
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  to
• 3:47
  say,
• 3:48
  you
• 3:48
  know,
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  hey,
• 3:49
  I
• 3:50
  want
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  to
• 3:50
  come
• 3:50
  up
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  with
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  this.
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  And
• 3:51
  people
• 3:51
  will
• 3:52
  appreciate
• 3:52
  that
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  because
• 3:53
  I
• 3:53
  was
• 3:53
  not
• 3:54
  doing
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  something
• 3:55
  regular.
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  And
• 3:56
  I
• 3:56
  think
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  people
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  appreciate
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  that.
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  I'm
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  sure
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  if
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  I
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  would
• 4:00
  go
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  out
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  with
• 4:02
  a
• 4:02
  reggaeton,
• 4:03
  they
• 4:03
  would
• 4:03
  say,
• 4:04
  okay,
• 4:04
  one
• 4:04
  more,
• 4:05
  you
• 4:05
  know,
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  but
• 4:06
  I'm
• 4:06
  doing
• 4:07
  my
• 4:07
  own
• 4:07
  trip.
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  So
• 4:08
  I
• 4:08
  think
• 4:08
  it's
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  something
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  to
• 4:09
  appreciate
• 4:10
  and
• 4:10
  to
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  respect
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  for
• 4:11
  sure.
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  And
• 4:13
  my
• 4:13
  lyrics
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  are
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  so
• 4:14
  intimate
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  and
• 4:15
  so
• 4:16
  about
• 4:16
  what
• 4:17
  I
• 4:17
  have
• 4:17
  been
• 4:17
  living.
• 4:18
  So
• 4:19
  I
• 4:19
  think
• 4:19
  people,
• 4:20
  you
• 4:20
  know,
• 4:20
  feel
• 4:21
  certain
• 4:21
  empathy
• 4:22
  for
• 4:22
  that.
• 4:23
  So
• 4:24
  to
• 4:24
  respond
• 4:25
  your
• 4:25
  question,
• 4:25
  I
• 4:26
  started
• 4:26
  with
• 4:27
  this
• 4:27
  first
• 4:27
  song
• 4:28
  as
• 4:28
  a
• 4:28
  dream
• 4:28
  of
• 4:29
  doing
• 4:29
  some
• 4:29
  rap
• 4:30
  flamenco.
• 4:30
  I
• 4:30
  love
• 4:31
  flamenco
• 4:31
  and
• 4:32
  I
• 4:32
  love.
• 4:32
  I
• 4:33
  love
• 4:33
  rap.
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  So
• 4:37
  someone
• 4:37
  introduced
• 4:38
  me
• 4:38
  to
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  biggest
• 4:40
  rap
• 4:41
  flamenco
• 4:42
  guy
• 4:42
  in
• 4:42
  Spain
• 4:43
  and
• 4:44
  we
• 4:44
  talk
• 4:44
  about
• 4:45
  doing
• 4:45
  a
• 4:45
  collaboration.
• 4:46
  Yeah.
• 4:47
  He
• 4:47
  was
• 4:47
  super
• 4:47
  open
• 4:48
  about
• 4:48
  it.
• 4:49
  And
• 4:49
  then
• 4:50
  I
• 4:50
  did
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  flamenco
• 4:51
  part
• 4:52
  and
• 4:52
  he
• 4:53
  did
• 4:53
  the
• 4:53
  rap.
• 4:54
  And
• 4:54
  we
• 4:54
  come
• 4:54
  up
• 4:55
  with
• 4:55
  this
• 4:55
  ideas.
• 4:56
  My
• 4:56
  brother
• 4:57
  produced
• 4:57
  a
• 4:58
  song
• 4:58
  and.
• 4:59
  Yeah.
• 5:00
  And
• 5:01
  I
• 5:01
  was
• 5:01
  just
• 5:02
  starting
• 5:03
  to
• 5:03
  feel
• 5:03
  confidence
• 5:04
  and
• 5:04
  healing
• 5:05
  my,
• 5:05
  you
• 5:05
  know,
• 5:06
  my
• 5:07
  agreement.
• 5:08
  Yes.
• 5:09
  Then
• 5:09
  I
• 5:10
  came
• 5:10
  up
• 5:10
  with
• 5:11
  my
• 5:11
  first
• 5:12
  solo
• 5:12
  song
• 5:13
  here
• 5:13
  in
• 5:13
  Canada.
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  And
• 5:15
  do
• 5:15
  you
• 5:15
  record
• 5:16
  in
• 5:16
  both
• 5:17
  Spanish
• 5:17
  and
• 5:17
  English
• 5:18
  at
• 5:18
  this
• 5:18
  point?
• 5:19
  Do
• 5:19
  you
• 5:19
  make
• 5:20
  multiple
• 5:21
  versions,
• 5:21
  like
• 5:21
  Shakira?
• 5:22
  No,
• 5:23
  not
• 5:23
  yet,
• 5:24
  but
• 5:25
  I'm
• 5:25
  writing
• 5:25
  more
• 5:26
  in
• 5:26
  English
• 5:26
  right
• 5:26
  now.
• 5:27
  Like
• 5:27
  Spanglish.
• 5:28
  Right,
• 5:29
  right.
• 5:29
  Yes.
• 5:30
  For
• 5:30
  example,
• 5:31
  the
• 5:31
  last
• 5:32
  song,
• 5:33
  who
• 5:33
  is
• 5:33
  the
• 5:34
  name
• 5:34
  is
• 5:34
  a
• 5:34
  Latin
• 5:35
  dance.
• 5:36
  The
• 5:36
  Latin
• 5:37
  dance
• 5:38
  has
• 5:38
  certain
• 5:39
  part
• 5:39
  in
• 5:39
  English.
• 5:41
  Knowing
• 5:41
  that
• 5:41
  it's
• 5:42
  so
• 5:42
  difficult
• 5:43
  to,
• 5:44
  you
• 5:44
  know,
• 5:44
  conquer
• 5:45
  Canadians
• 5:46
  without
• 5:47
  saying
• 5:47
  anything
• 5:48
  in
• 5:48
  English.
• 5:49
  Right,
• 5:50
  right.
• 5:50
  Yeah.
• 5:50
  It's
• 5:51
  a
• 5:51
  challenge
• 5:51
  in
• 5:51
  itself.
• 5:51
  Yes.
• 5:52
  It's
• 5:52
  also
• 5:52
  a
• 5:53
  big
• 5:53
  challenge.
• 5:53
  I
• 5:53
  mean,
• 5:54
  you
• 5:54
  said
• 5:55
  that
• 5:55
  you.
• 5:55
  You
• 5:55
  came
• 5:56
  here
• 5:56
  basically,
• 5:56
  or
• 5:56
  one
• 5:57
  of
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  reasons
• 5:57
  you
• 5:57
  came
• 5:57
  here
• 5:58
  was
• 5:58
  to
• 5:58
  learn
• 5:59
  and
• 5:59
  improve
• 5:59
  your
• 6:00
  English.
• 6:01
  Yes.
• 6:02
  I
• 6:02
  can't
• 6:02
  imagine
• 6:03
  doing
• 6:03
  that.
• 6:04
  I
• 6:04
  think
• 6:04
  it's
• 6:04
  something
• 6:04
  that
• 6:04
  we've
• 6:05
  probably
• 6:05
  all
• 6:05
  thought
• 6:05
  about
• 6:06
  on
• 6:06
  some
• 6:07
  level,
• 6:07
  but
• 6:07
  I
• 6:07
  can't
• 6:08
  imagine
• 6:09
  leaving
• 6:09
  my
• 6:10
  life
• 6:10
  in
• 6:10
  my
• 6:10
  comfort
• 6:11
  zone,
• 6:11
  submersing
• 6:12
  yourself
• 6:13
  to
• 6:13
  go
• 6:13
  anywhere.
• 6:14
  There's
• 6:14
  a
• 6:14
  lot
• 6:14
  of
• 6:15
  places
• 6:15
  I
• 6:15
  love
• 6:15
  to,
• 6:15
  a
• 6:16
  lot
• 6:16
  of
• 6:16
  languages
• 6:17
  I'd
• 6:17
  love
• 6:17
  to
• 6:17
  learn,
• 6:17
  places
• 6:17
  I
• 6:18
  love
• 6:18
  to
• 6:18
  see,
• 6:18
  but
• 6:19
  the
• 6:19
  amount
• 6:19
  of
• 6:19
  courage
• 6:20
  it
• 6:20
  must
• 6:20
  take
• 6:20
  to
• 6:21
  do
• 6:21
  that.
• 6:21
  Yeah.
• 6:22
  Was
• 6:22
  that
• 6:22
  a
• 6:22
  big
• 6:22
  decision?
• 6:23
  And
• 6:23
  why
• 6:23
  did
• 6:23
  you
• 6:24
  choose
• 6:24
  Toronto,
• 6:24
  actually?
• 6:26
  Well,
• 6:26
  again,
• 6:28
  I
• 6:28
  think
• 6:28
  my
• 6:29
  father
• 6:29
  has
• 6:29
  been
• 6:31
  big
• 6:31
  part
• 6:31
  of
• 6:31
  all.
• 6:32
  All
• 6:32
  of
• 6:33
  this.
• 6:33
  Yeah.
• 6:33
  But
• 6:34
  I
• 6:34
  would
• 6:34
  say
• 6:34
  I
• 6:34
  was
• 6:35
  living
• 6:36
  so
• 6:37
  many
• 6:37
  situations
• 6:38
  in
• 6:38
  my
• 6:38
  life.
• 6:39
  For
• 6:39
  example,
• 6:41
  I
• 6:41
  was
• 6:41
  engaged
• 6:42
  and
• 6:42
  I
• 6:42
  decided
• 6:43
  to
• 6:43
  don't
• 6:44
  get
• 6:44
  married.
• 6:45
  That
• 6:45
  was
• 6:45
  a
• 6:45
  big,
• 6:46
  huge
• 6:46
  scandal
• 6:47
  in
• 6:47
  Colombia.
• 6:49
  I
• 6:49
  was
• 6:49
  in
• 6:49
  the
• 6:49
  peak
• 6:50
  of
• 6:51
  my
• 6:51
  career.
• 6:52
  Like,
• 6:52
  I
• 6:53
  just
• 6:53
  realized,
• 6:53
  like,
• 6:54
  you
• 6:54
  know
• 6:54
  what?
• 6:55
  There
• 6:56
  is
• 6:56
  no
• 6:56
  more
• 6:56
  to
• 6:57
  do
• 6:57
  here.
• 6:57
  I
• 6:58
  just
• 6:58
  felt
• 6:58
  like
• 6:59
  I
• 6:59
  want
• 6:59
  more,
• 7:00
  and
• 7:00
  if
• 7:00
  I
• 7:01
  stay
• 7:01
  here,
• 7:01
  I
• 7:02
  will
• 7:02
  just
• 7:02
  be
• 7:03
  in
• 7:03
  my
• 7:03
  comfort
• 7:04
  zone.
• 7:04
  Right,
• 7:05
  right.
• 7:05
  Then
• 7:05
  my
• 7:06
  father
• 7:06
  passed
• 7:06
  away,
• 7:07
  and
• 7:08
  that
• 7:08
  just
• 7:08
  pushed
• 7:09
  me,
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  know,
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  was
• 7:10
  like
• 7:11
  a
• 7:11
  full
• 7:11
  year
• 7:12
  again
• 7:12
  inside.
• 7:13
  I
• 7:13
  was
• 7:14
  recording
• 7:14
  a
• 7:14
  series.
• 7:15
  My
• 7:16
  character
• 7:16
  was
• 7:17
  the.
• 7:18
  The
• 7:18
  one
• 7:18
  of
• 7:19
  the
• 7:19
  main
• 7:19
  characters,
• 7:20
  and
• 7:20
  I
• 7:20
  was
• 7:20
  the
• 7:20
  comedy
• 7:21
  one.
• 7:22
  So
• 7:22
  I
• 7:22
  was
• 7:22
  with
• 7:23
  so
• 7:23
  many
• 7:23
  things
• 7:24
  that
• 7:24
  I
• 7:25
  just
• 7:25
  needed
• 7:26
  my
• 7:26
  own
• 7:26
  time.
• 7:27
  I.
• 7:28
  I
• 7:28
  would
• 7:28
  say
• 7:28
  I
• 7:28
  even
• 7:28
  couldn't
• 7:29
  cry.
• 7:29
  My
• 7:29
  father
• 7:31
  and
• 7:32
  because
• 7:32
  he
• 7:32
  passed
• 7:33
  away
• 7:33
  and
• 7:33
  nine
• 7:34
  days
• 7:34
  after
• 7:35
  I
• 7:35
  was
• 7:35
  doing
• 7:35
  the
• 7:36
  series.
• 7:36
  Right.
• 7:37
  So
• 7:37
  when
• 7:38
  I
• 7:38
  came
• 7:38
  here,
• 7:39
  I
• 7:39
  came
• 7:40
  because
• 7:41
  a
• 7:41
  friend
• 7:41
  at
• 7:42
  that
• 7:42
  time
• 7:42
  told
• 7:42
  me,
• 7:43
  like,
• 7:43
  hey,
• 7:43
  I'm
• 7:43
  doing
• 7:44
  to
• 7:44
  Toronto.
• 7:44
  I'm
• 7:45
  going
• 7:45
  to
• 7:45
  Toronto
• 7:46
  because
• 7:46
  I
• 7:46
  want
• 7:46
  to
• 7:47
  do,
• 7:47
  you
• 7:47
  know,
• 7:48
  a
• 7:48
  college
• 7:48
  in
• 7:49
  blah,
• 7:49
  blah,
• 7:49
  blah.
• 7:50
  And
• 7:50
  I
• 7:50
  said,
• 7:51
  you
• 7:51
  know
• 7:51
  what?
• 7:51
  I'm
• 7:52
  going
• 7:52
  with
• 7:52
  you.
• 7:52
  I
• 7:53
  need
• 7:53
  to
• 7:53
  learn
• 7:53
  English.
• 7:54
  I
• 7:54
  want
• 7:54
  to
• 7:55
  live
• 7:55
  this
• 7:55
  place
• 7:56
  for
• 7:56
  a
• 7:56
  while.
• 7:57
  I
• 7:57
  want
• 7:57
  to
• 7:58
  take
• 7:58
  time
• 7:59
  for
• 7:59
  myself.
• 8:00
  And
• 8:00
  then,
• 8:01
  yeah,
• 8:02
  I
• 8:02
  just
• 8:03
  pack
• 8:03
  everything
• 8:04
  in
• 8:04
  boxes
• 8:05
  and
• 8:07
  inside,
• 8:08
  inside,
• 8:09
  inside.
• 8:10
  I
• 8:10
  knew
• 8:11
  that
• 8:11
  I
• 8:11
  was
• 8:11
  not
• 8:12
  going
• 8:12
  back
• 8:13
  because,
• 8:13
  yeah,
• 8:14
  I
• 8:14
  did
• 8:14
  want
• 8:15
  once
• 8:16
  that
• 8:17
  I'm
• 8:17
  from
• 8:17
  Medellin
• 8:18
  and
• 8:19
  I
• 8:20
  left
• 8:20
  everything
• 8:20
  to
• 8:21
  go
• 8:21
  to
• 8:21
  Bogota,
• 8:22
  to
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  capital,
• 8:23
  you
• 8:23
  know,
• 8:23
  with
• 8:23
  a
• 8:23
  big
• 8:24
  dream
• 8:24
  of
• 8:24
  being
• 8:25
  one
• 8:25
  of
• 8:25
  the
• 8:25
  best
• 8:26
  actresses.
• 8:26
  Right,
• 8:27
  right.
• 8:27
  And
• 8:27
  then
• 8:27
  I
• 8:28
  did
• 8:28
  it.
• 8:28
  So
• 8:29
  then,
• 8:29
  you
• 8:30
  know,
• 8:30
  I
• 8:30
  came
• 8:30
  here.
• 8:31
  I
• 8:31
  want
• 8:31
  to
• 8:31
  be.
• 8:34
  I
• 8:34
  want
• 8:34
  to
• 8:34
  continue
• 8:35
  my
• 8:35
  career.
• 8:36
  I
• 8:36
  want
• 8:36
  to
• 8:36
  be
• 8:37
  recognized
• 8:37
  by
• 8:38
  my
• 8:38
  acting
• 8:38
  and
• 8:39
  my
• 8:39
  music
• 8:39
  here.
• 8:40
  So
• 8:40
  then
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  won't
• 8:41
  leave
• 8:41
  this
• 8:41
  place
• 8:42
  until
• 8:42
  that.
• 8:43
  Well,
• 8:43
  you
• 8:43
  picked
• 8:44
  a
• 8:44
  good
• 8:44
  place.
• 8:44
  You
• 8:44
  know,
• 8:45
  I'm
• 8:45
  stuck
• 8:45
  in
• 8:46
  that.
• 8:47
  Wow,
• 8:47
  that's
• 8:47
  amazing.
• 8:48
  Yeah.
• 8:49
  Wow.
• 8:50
  You're.
• 8:50
  Jeez,
• 8:51
  you
• 8:51
  guys
• 8:52
  always
• 8:52
  laugh
• 8:52
  because
• 8:52
  I'm
• 8:52
  not.
• 8:53
  I
• 8:53
  have
• 8:53
  no
• 8:53
  emotions.
• 8:55
  I
• 8:55
  actually
• 8:55
  had
• 8:55
  a
• 8:56
  weird
• 8:56
  question
• 8:57
  just
• 8:57
  about
• 8:57
  Colombia
• 8:58
  in
• 8:58
  general,
• 8:58
  because
• 8:59
  there's
• 8:59
  a
• 8:59
  lot
• 8:59
  of
• 8:59
  stereotypes
• 9:00
  that
• 9:00
  come
• 9:00
  with
• 9:01
  Colombia,
• 9:02
  especially
• 9:02
  the
• 9:02
  two
• 9:02
  places
• 9:03
  you
• 9:03
  mentioned,
• 9:03
  Medellin
• 9:04
  and
• 9:04
  Bogota.
• 9:06
  Is
• 9:06
  it.
• 9:07
  What
• 9:07
  was
• 9:07
  your
• 9:07
  experience
• 9:08
  like
• 9:08
  growing
• 9:08
  up
• 9:08
  in
• 9:09
  Colombia?
• 9:09
  Was
• 9:10
  it
• 9:10
  anything
• 9:11
  like
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  narcos
• 9:12
  experience
• 9:12
  that
• 9:12
  I've
• 9:13
  seen
• 9:13
  on
• 9:13
  tv,
• 9:13
  or
• 9:14
  is
• 9:14
  it
• 9:14
  more
• 9:15
  just,
• 9:15
  you
• 9:16
  know,
• 9:16
  that
• 9:17
  stuff
• 9:17
  gets
• 9:17
  sensationalized
• 9:18
  in
• 9:18
  the
• 9:18
  news
• 9:18
  and
• 9:19
  it's
• 9:19
  not
• 9:19
  as
• 9:19
  crazy
• 9:20
  as
• 9:20
  someone
• 9:21
  like
• 9:21
  me
• 9:21
  has
• 9:21
  never
• 9:22
  been
• 9:22
  there.
• 9:23
  I
• 9:23
  think
• 9:25
  you
• 9:26
  guys
• 9:26
  have
• 9:26
  been
• 9:27
  watching
• 9:27
  amazing
• 9:28
  series.
• 9:28
  Yes.
• 9:30
  Yeah.
• 9:30
  But
• 9:30
  I
• 9:30
  would
• 9:31
  say
• 9:31
  I
• 9:31
  also,
• 9:32
  yeah,
• 9:32
  it
• 9:32
  was
• 9:33
  a
• 9:33
  really
• 9:34
  hard
• 9:34
  time
• 9:34
  in
• 9:34
  the
• 9:35
  80s.
• 9:35
  Yes.
• 9:36
  But
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  was
• 9:37
  so
• 9:37
  young,
• 9:38
  young
• 9:38
  at
• 9:39
  that
• 9:39
  time.
• 9:41
  So
• 9:41
  I
• 9:41
  would
• 9:42
  say
• 9:42
  my
• 9:42
  generation
• 9:43
  didn't
• 9:43
  realize
• 9:44
  until
• 9:45
  we
• 9:45
  saw,
• 9:46
  for
• 9:46
  example,
• 9:46
  the
• 9:47
  series.
• 9:47
  And
• 9:48
  I
• 9:49
  had
• 9:49
  actually
• 9:49
  a
• 9:50
  memory
• 9:50
  like
• 9:51
  my
• 9:51
  mom,
• 9:51
  every
• 9:52
  time
• 9:52
  that
• 9:52
  was
• 9:53
  seeing
• 9:54
  a
• 9:54
  taxi
• 9:55
  or
• 9:55
  a
• 9:55
  car
• 9:56
  stand
• 9:57
  there
• 9:57
  for
• 9:58
  a
• 9:58
  long
• 9:58
  time,
• 9:59
  they
• 9:59
  call
• 9:59
  the
• 9:59
  police.
• 10:00
  Because
• 10:00
  you
• 10:01
  never
• 10:01
  know.
• 10:01
  Exactly.
• 10:02
  But
• 10:02
  that
• 10:02
  was
• 10:03
  a
• 10:03
  long
• 10:03
  time
• 10:04
  ago.
• 10:04
  And
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  police
• 10:04
  would
• 10:05
  be
• 10:05
  like,
• 10:05
  that's
• 10:05
  one
• 10:05
  of
• 10:05
  our
• 10:05
  guys.
• 10:06
  Leave
• 10:06
  him
• 10:06
  alone.
• 10:06
  Yeah,
• 10:08
  yeah.
• 10:09
  Well,
• 10:10
  yeah,
• 10:11
  it
• 10:11
  was
• 10:11
  a
• 10:12
  tough
• 10:12
  time.
• 10:12
  But
• 10:13
  I
• 10:13
  would
• 10:13
  say
• 10:14
  Colombia
• 10:14
  has
• 10:14
  been
• 10:14
  changing
• 10:15
  a
• 10:15
  lot.
• 10:16
  And
• 10:16
  we
• 10:16
  have
• 10:16
  great
• 10:17
  artists,
• 10:18
  we
• 10:18
  have
• 10:18
  amazing
• 10:19
  people
• 10:19
  that
• 10:20
  have
• 10:20
  been
• 10:20
  talking
• 10:21
  about
• 10:21
  our
• 10:22
  culture.
• 10:23
  We
• 10:23
  are
• 10:23
  so
• 10:24
  rich
• 10:24
  in
• 10:24
  so
• 10:24
  many
• 10:25
  ways.
• 10:25
  And
• 10:26
  I
• 10:26
  think
• 10:26
  for
• 10:27
  that
• 10:27
  we
• 10:27
  have
• 10:27
  been
• 10:28
  suffering
• 10:28
  a
• 10:28
  lot,
• 10:28
  you
• 10:29
  know,
• 10:29
  Know,
• 10:29
  because
• 10:30
  that's
• 10:31
  what
• 10:31
  happened
• 10:31
  when
• 10:31
  you
• 10:32
  have
• 10:32
  so
• 10:33
  many
• 10:35
  elements
• 10:36
  to.
• 10:38
  Yeah,
• 10:39
  yeah,
• 10:40
  elements.
• 10:41
  So
• 10:41
  we
• 10:41
  have
• 10:41
  so
• 10:42
  much
• 10:42
  gold,
• 10:42
  we
• 10:43
  have
• 10:43
  so
• 10:43
  much
• 10:44
  nature.
• 10:46
  We
• 10:46
  have
• 10:46
  different
• 10:47
  places.
• 10:48
  We
• 10:48
  have
• 10:48
  the
• 10:49
  Amazon,
• 10:49
  but
• 10:50
  we
• 10:50
  have
• 10:50
  mountains.
• 10:51
  We
• 10:51
  have
• 10:52
  also
• 10:52
  the
• 10:53
  Pacific
• 10:53
  and
• 10:54
  the
• 10:55
  Caribbean.
• 10:56
  So
• 10:56
  we.
• 10:56
  We
• 10:57
  are
• 10:57
  full
• 10:57
  of
• 10:58
  different
• 10:58
  cultures.
• 10:59
  Music.
• 11:01
  Each
• 11:01
  place
• 11:01
  has
• 11:03
  typical
• 11:03
  food,
• 11:04
  typical
• 11:05
  dance,
• 11:05
  typical
• 11:06
  music,
• 11:07
  typical
• 11:07
  elements,
• 11:09
  you
• 11:09
  know,
• 11:10
  for
• 11:10
  music.
• 11:11
  So
• 11:12
  I
• 11:12
  would
• 11:12
  say
• 11:13
  we
• 11:13
  are
• 11:13
  more
• 11:14
  than
• 11:15
  what
• 11:15
  series
• 11:16
  absolutely
• 11:17
  are
• 11:17
  showing.
• 11:19
  And
• 11:19
  for
• 11:19
  that,
• 11:20
  I'm
• 11:21
  trying
• 11:21
  to
• 11:21
  expose
• 11:22
  another
• 11:23
  side
• 11:23
  of
• 11:24
  Colombia.
• 11:25
  We
• 11:25
  are
• 11:25
  not
• 11:25
  just
• 11:26
  prostitutes,
• 11:27
  drugs,
• 11:28
  and
• 11:29
  beautiful
• 11:30
  women.
• 11:30
  Yeah.
• 11:31
  We
• 11:31
  are
• 11:31
  also
• 11:32
  smart
• 11:32
  and
• 11:33
  intelligent
• 11:33
  people.
• 11:34
  Right.
• 11:34
  Wow.
• 11:35
  And
• 11:35
  we
• 11:35
  are
• 11:35
  people
• 11:36
  resilient,
• 11:37
  you
• 11:37
  know,
• 11:38
  because
• 11:39
  that's
• 11:39
  what
• 11:39
  happened
• 11:40
  when.
• 11:40
  When
• 11:41
  you
• 11:41
  are
• 11:41
  fighting
• 11:42
  against
• 11:42
  so
• 11:43
  many
• 11:43
  things.
• 11:43
  You
• 11:44
  died
• 11:44
  or
• 11:45
  you
• 11:45
  get
• 11:45
  stronger.
• 11:46
  Absolutely.
• 11:46
  And
• 11:47
  yeah,
• 11:47
  I'm
• 11:47
  here.
• 11:48
  I
• 11:48
  got
• 11:48
  stronger.
• 11:49
  So
• 11:50
  there
• 11:50
  are
• 11:50
  so
• 11:51
  many
• 11:51
  beautiful
• 11:52
  stories
• 11:53
  that
• 11:53
  we
• 11:54
  can
• 11:54
  talk
• 11:54
  about
• 11:54
  Colombia.
• 11:55
  And
• 11:56
  it's
• 11:56
  not
• 11:57
  just
• 11:57
  that.
• 11:57
  Right?
• 11:58
  Yeah.
• 11:58
  No,
• 11:58
  I
• 11:59
  just
• 11:59
  wanted
• 11:59
  you
• 11:59
  to
• 11:59
  talk.
• 11:59
  Yeah,
• 12:00
  yeah,
• 12:00
  yeah.
• 12:00
  No,
• 12:00
  but
• 12:00
  it's
• 12:01
  amazing
• 12:01
  to
• 12:01
  clarify
• 12:02
  that.
• 12:03
  Absolutely.
• 12:03
  Because
• 12:04
  there
• 12:05
  is
• 12:05
  that
• 12:05
  meat
• 12:06
  there.
• 12:06
  You
• 12:07
  know,
• 12:08
  it's
• 12:08
  sad,
• 12:08
  but
• 12:08
  I
• 12:09
  have
• 12:09
  noticed
• 12:09
  that
• 12:10
  some
• 12:10
  people
• 12:11
  think
• 12:12
  I'm
• 12:12
  from
• 12:12
  who
• 12:12
  knows
• 12:13
  where
• 12:13
  because
• 12:14
  I'm
• 12:14
  not
• 12:15
  like
• 12:15
  Colombian
• 12:16
  type
• 12:16
  of
• 12:16
  looking.
• 12:17
  And
• 12:17
  then
• 12:18
  when
• 12:18
  they
• 12:18
  realize
• 12:19
  I'm
• 12:19
  Colombian,
• 12:19
  I
• 12:20
  have
• 12:20
  noticed
• 12:20
  certain
• 12:21
  times
• 12:21
  like,
• 12:21
  oh,
• 12:22
  come
• 12:22
  on.
• 12:24
  You
• 12:24
  know,
• 12:25
  like,
• 12:25
  hey,
• 12:26
  just
• 12:26
  respect,
• 12:27
  you.
• 12:27
  Know,
• 12:28
  Listen,
• 12:28
  people,
• 12:29
  have
• 12:29
  some
• 12:29
  respect.
• 12:29
  Yeah.
• 12:30
  All
• 12:30
  people
• 12:30
  know
• 12:30
  is
• 12:30
  about
• 12:31
  Pablo
• 12:31
  Escobar.
• 12:32
  Yeah,
• 12:33
  yeah.
• 12:34
  But
• 12:34
  to
• 12:35
  illustrate
• 12:35
  to
• 12:35
  those
• 12:35
  that
• 12:36
  don't
• 12:36
  know
• 12:36
  how
• 12:36
  much
• 12:36
  of
• 12:37
  a
• 12:37
  dent
• 12:37
  that
• 12:38
  put
• 12:38
  in
• 12:39
  both
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  Colombian
• 12:40
  economy
• 12:40
  and
• 12:40
  just
• 12:41
  people's
• 12:41
  spirits.
• 12:41
  Pablo
• 12:42
  Escobar's
• 12:43
  people
• 12:43
  spent
• 12:43
  $2,500
• 12:46
  in
• 12:46
  90s
• 12:47
  money
• 12:47
  on
• 12:47
  rubber
• 12:48
  bands
• 12:48
  every
• 12:48
  month
• 12:49
  for
• 12:49
  their
• 12:49
  cash.
• 12:50
  Wow.
• 12:51
  Like,
• 12:53
  messed
• 12:53
  things
• 12:53
  up
• 12:53
  for
• 12:54
  a
• 12:54
  while.
• 12:54
  And
• 12:54
  it
• 12:55
  was
• 12:55
  very
• 12:55
  unfair.
• 12:56
  And
• 12:56
  it
• 12:56
  all
• 12:56
  had
• 12:56
  to
• 12:57
  do
• 12:57
  with
• 12:57
  the
• 12:57
  geography
• 12:58
  of
• 12:58
  where
• 12:58
  the
• 12:58
  plant
• 12:59
  grows.
• 12:59
  It
• 12:59
  would
• 13:00
  have
• 13:00
  been
• 13:00
  a
• 13:00
  different
• 13:00
  country.
• 13:01
  Right.
• 13:01
  If
• 13:02
  the
• 13:02
  coca
• 13:02
  plant
• 13:02
  grew
• 13:03
  elsewhere.
• 13:04
  So
• 13:04
  that's
• 13:05
  very
• 13:05
  unfortunate.
• 13:06
  But
• 13:06
  the
• 13:07
  thing
• 13:07
  about
• 13:07
  sad
• 13:08
  times
• 13:08
  is
• 13:08
  that
• 13:08
  they
• 13:09
  often
• 13:09
  create.
• 13:10
  Create
• 13:10
  great
• 13:11
  music,
• 13:12
  right?
• 13:12
  Absolutely.
• 13:13
  So
• 13:14
  a
• 13:14
  lot
• 13:14
  of
• 13:14
  great
• 13:14
  things
• 13:15
  have
• 13:15
  come
• 13:15
  out
• 13:16
  of
• 13:16
  that
• 13:16
  region
• 13:17
  in
• 13:17
  general.
• 13:17
  And
• 13:19
  so
• 13:20
  let's
• 13:21
  talk
• 13:21
  about
• 13:21
  the
• 13:21
  Latin
• 13:22
  Grammys
• 13:22
  a
• 13:22
  little
• 13:23
  bit.
• 13:24
  What?
• 13:25
  How?
• 13:26
  Because
• 13:27
  we
• 13:27
  don't
• 13:27
  know
• 13:27
  much
• 13:27
  about
• 13:27
  the
• 13:28
  Latin
• 13:28
  Grammys
• 13:29
  up
• 13:29
  here.
• 13:30
  Is
• 13:30
  it.
• 13:31
  Is
• 13:31
  it
• 13:31
  an
• 13:31
  important
• 13:31
  event
• 13:32
  down
• 13:32
  there?
• 13:32
  Is
• 13:33
  it
• 13:33
  something
• 13:33
  everybody
• 13:33
  tunes
• 13:34
  in
• 13:34
  for?
• 13:35
  Or
• 13:36
  is
• 13:36
  it
• 13:36
  not
• 13:37
  something
• 13:37
  really
• 13:37
  that
• 13:38
  people
• 13:38
  pay
• 13:38
  attention
• 13:38
  to?
• 13:39
  How
• 13:39
  does
• 13:39
  it,
• 13:39
  how
• 13:39
  does
• 13:39
  it
• 13:40
  work?
• 13:40
  It
• 13:40
  is
• 13:40
  huge
• 13:41
  for
• 13:41
  Latin
• 13:42
  America,
• 13:42
  for
• 13:42
  sure.
• 13:44
  Yes,
• 13:45
  it
• 13:45
  is
• 13:45
  so
• 13:46
  important.
• 13:47
  But
• 13:47
  I
• 13:48
  would
• 13:48
  say
• 13:48
  I'm
• 13:49
  so
• 13:49
  disconnect
• 13:50
  to
• 13:50
  that.
• 13:50
  I'm
• 13:51
  not
• 13:51
  a
• 13:51
  following
• 13:52
  person
• 13:53
  because
• 13:53
  I
• 13:53
  have
• 13:54
  that
• 13:54
  theory
• 13:55
  and
• 13:55
  I
• 13:56
  try
• 13:57
  to
• 13:57
  apply
• 13:57
  this
• 13:58
  in
• 13:58
  my
• 13:58
  life.
• 13:58
  And
• 13:59
  even
• 13:59
  in
• 14:00
  small
• 14:00
  things
• 14:00
  like
• 14:01
  Instagram,
• 14:02
  you
• 14:02
  have
• 14:03
  the
• 14:03
  option
• 14:03
  to
• 14:03
  follow
• 14:04
  and
• 14:04
  follow
• 14:04
  and
• 14:05
  follow
• 14:05
  or
• 14:06
  create
• 14:06
  and
• 14:07
  create.
• 14:07
  And
• 14:08
  for
• 14:08
  being
• 14:09
  a
• 14:09
  creator,
• 14:10
  you
• 14:10
  need
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  be
• 14:10
  disconnect
• 14:11
  if
• 14:11
  you
• 14:12
  are
• 14:12
  thinking
• 14:15
  I
• 14:15
  want
• 14:16
  to
• 14:16
  win
• 14:16
  that
• 14:16
  award.
• 14:17
  And
• 14:18
  then
• 14:18
  you
• 14:18
  will
• 14:19
  start
• 14:19
  to
• 14:19
  do
• 14:19
  what
• 14:20
  people
• 14:20
  want
• 14:21
  you
• 14:21
  to
• 14:22
  do.
• 14:22
  And
• 14:24
  in
• 14:24
  my
• 14:24
  music,
• 14:25
  I
• 14:25
  have
• 14:25
  been
• 14:25
  doing
• 14:26
  just
• 14:26
  my
• 14:26
  own
• 14:27
  trip
• 14:27
  and
• 14:28
  my
• 14:28
  own
• 14:28
  trip
• 14:28
  is
• 14:29
  fusion
• 14:30
  music.
• 14:30
  I'm
• 14:31
  taking
• 14:31
  elements,
• 14:32
  different
• 14:33
  elements
• 14:33
  from
• 14:34
  everywhere,
• 14:34
  from
• 14:35
  Colombia,
• 14:36
  fusioning
• 14:37
  that
• 14:37
  with
• 14:37
  different
• 14:38
  elements
• 14:38
  from
• 14:38
  the
• 14:39
  world.
• 14:40
  For
• 14:40
  example,
• 14:41
  a
• 14:41
  Latin
• 14:42
  dance
• 14:42
  has
• 14:44
  fusion
• 14:45
  with
• 14:46
  hip
• 14:47
  hop
• 14:47
  and
• 14:47
  cumbia.
• 14:49
  It's
• 14:49
  a
• 14:50
  really
• 14:50
  rich
• 14:50
  fusion.
• 14:53
  And
• 14:54
  you
• 14:54
  know,
• 14:55
  I
• 14:55
  try
• 14:55
  to,
• 14:56
  as
• 14:56
  I
• 14:57
  told
• 14:57
  you,
• 14:57
  be
• 14:57
  just
• 14:59
  a
• 14:59
  little
• 14:59
  disconnect
• 15:00
  about
• 15:00
  all
• 15:00
  of
• 15:01
  that
• 15:01
  because
• 15:01
  I
• 15:01
  think
• 15:02
  at
• 15:02
  the
• 15:02
  end
• 15:02
  of
• 15:03
  the
• 15:04
  day,
• 15:04
  if
• 15:04
  you
• 15:04
  will
• 15:05
  receive
• 15:05
  an
• 15:06
  award,
• 15:06
  amazing,
• 15:07
  of
• 15:07
  course
• 15:08
  it
• 15:08
  is
• 15:08
  welcome.
• 15:09
  But
• 15:12
  in
• 15:12
  the
• 15:12
  process
• 15:13
  you
• 15:13
  need
• 15:13
  to
• 15:13
  be
• 15:14
  pure.
• 15:14
  As
• 15:15
  pure
• 15:15
  as
• 15:15
  you
• 15:16
  can.
• 15:17
  Yes.
• 15:18
  And
• 15:18
  I
• 15:19
  try
• 15:19
  to
• 15:19
  be
• 15:20
  so
• 15:20
  disconnect
• 15:21
  even
• 15:21
  about
• 15:21
  listening
• 15:22
  to
• 15:22
  music,
• 15:23
  because
• 15:23
  I
• 15:24
  think
• 15:24
  even
• 15:24
  in
• 15:25
  your
• 15:25
  subconscious
• 15:27
  you
• 15:27
  will
• 15:27
  start
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  took
• 15:29
  those
• 15:29
  influences.
• 15:30
  And
• 15:30
  I
• 15:30
  try
• 15:30
  to
• 15:30
  be,
• 15:31
  you
• 15:31
  know,
• 15:31
  just
• 15:31
  me.
• 15:32
  So
• 15:32
  what
• 15:32
  does
• 15:32
  that
• 15:33
  mean?
• 15:33
  You
• 15:33
  don't
• 15:33
  listen
• 15:33
  to
• 15:33
  music?
• 15:34
  I
• 15:34
  listen
• 15:35
  to
• 15:35
  music.
• 15:35
  But
• 15:36
  do
• 15:36
  you
• 15:36
  know
• 15:36
  what
• 15:36
  is
• 15:36
  my
• 15:37
  exercise?
• 15:37
  I
• 15:38
  don't
• 15:38
  listen
• 15:38
  to
• 15:39
  the
• 15:39
  same
• 15:39
  music
• 15:39
  all
• 15:40
  the
• 15:40
  time.
• 15:41
  And
• 15:41
  I
• 15:42
  love
• 15:42
  to
• 15:42
  listen
• 15:43
  to
• 15:43
  music
• 15:44
  that
• 15:44
  let
• 15:44
  me
• 15:44
  think,
• 15:45
  for
• 15:45
  example,
• 15:46
  shamanic
• 15:47
  music,
• 15:48
  music
• 15:49
  just
• 15:49
  with
• 15:50
  instruments
• 15:51
  or
• 15:51
  changing
• 15:52
  music
• 15:53
  like
• 15:54
  jazz
• 15:56
  soul
• 15:58
  to
• 15:58
  do
• 15:58
  exercise
• 15:59
  a
• 15:59
  little
• 15:59
  rakiton.
• 16:00
  Why
• 16:00
  not?
• 16:01
  You
• 16:01
  know,
• 16:01
  but
• 16:01
  just
• 16:02
  going
• 16:02
  around,
• 16:03
  not
• 16:03
  staying
• 16:04
  with
• 16:04
  any
• 16:05
  artist
• 16:05
  or
• 16:06
  any
• 16:06
  type
• 16:06
  of
• 16:06
  music,
• 16:07
  just
• 16:08
  being
• 16:08
  flexible.
• 16:09
  I
• 16:10
  think
• 16:10
  we
• 16:10
  need
• 16:10
  to
• 16:10
  be
• 16:10
  flexible
• 16:11
  as
• 16:11
  an
• 16:11
  artist.
• 16:12
  Absolutely.
• 16:13
  And
• 16:13
  I
• 16:14
  think
• 16:14
  it's
• 16:15
  like
• 16:16
  for
• 16:16
  me,
• 16:16
  I
• 16:16
  do
• 16:16
  it
• 16:17
  with
• 16:17
  Internet.
• 16:18
  Like
• 16:18
  if
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  don't
• 16:18
  know
• 16:19
  the
• 16:19
  language,
• 16:19
  I'll
• 16:19
  listen
• 16:20
  to
• 16:20
  music
• 16:20
  because
• 16:21
  then
• 16:21
  I'm
• 16:21
  not
• 16:21
  focused
• 16:21
  on
• 16:22
  the
• 16:22
  words.
• 16:22
  It's
• 16:22
  more
• 16:23
  just
• 16:23
  the.
• 16:23
  The
• 16:24
  actual
• 16:24
  production
• 16:25
  of
• 16:25
  the
• 16:25
  song
• 16:25
  and
• 16:26
  the
• 16:26
  melody
• 16:26
  itself.
• 16:26
  And
• 16:27
  I
• 16:28
  never
• 16:28
  thought
• 16:28
  about
• 16:29
  that,
• 16:29
  but
• 16:29
  that's
• 16:30
  I
• 16:30
  think
• 16:30
  anyone.
• 16:30
  That's
• 16:31
  great.
• 16:31
  Yeah.
• 16:31
  They
• 16:32
  definitely
• 16:32
  have
• 16:33
  to
• 16:33
  go
• 16:33
  outside
• 16:33
  of
• 16:33
  the
• 16:34
  genre.
• 16:35
  Yeah.
• 16:35
  And
• 16:35
  the
• 16:35
  comfort
• 16:36
  zone,
• 16:36
  we've
• 16:37
  noticed
• 16:37
  with
• 16:37
  a
• 16:37
  lot
• 16:37
  of
• 16:38
  people,
• 16:39
  the
• 16:39
  two
• 16:39
  of
• 16:39
  us
• 16:40
  tend
• 16:40
  to
• 16:40
  follow
• 16:41
  and
• 16:41
  listen
• 16:42
  to,
• 16:42
  and
• 16:42
  they
• 16:42
  often
• 16:42
  say,
• 16:43
  I
• 16:43
  don't
• 16:43
  read
• 16:43
  comments.
• 16:43
  I
• 16:44
  don't
• 16:44
  follow
• 16:44
  anybody.
• 16:45
  Right.
• 16:45
  I'm.
• 16:46
  I'm
• 16:46
  presenting
• 16:47
  something
• 16:47
  here.
• 16:47
  It's
• 16:48
  not.
• 16:49
  It's
• 16:49
  designed
• 16:49
  to
• 16:50
  be
• 16:50
  a
• 16:50
  two
• 16:50
  way
• 16:50
  street,
• 16:51
  but
• 16:51
  it
• 16:51
  doesn't
• 16:51
  have
• 16:52
  to
• 16:52
  be
• 16:52
  a
• 16:52
  two
• 16:52
  way
• 16:52
  street.
• 16:53
  Right.
• 16:54
  That's
• 16:54
  the.
• 16:55
  It's.
• 16:55
  It
• 16:55
  sort
• 16:55
  of
• 16:56
  takes
• 16:56
  away
• 16:56
  from.
• 16:57
  From
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  mystery
• 16:59
  when
• 16:59
  Bruno
• 16:59
  Mars
• 17:00
  responds
• 17:00
  to
• 17:00
  a
• 17:01
  tweet.
• 17:01
  Right,
• 17:01
  right.
• 17:02
  Well,
• 17:02
  I
• 17:03
  mean,
• 17:03
  it's
• 17:03
  cool,
• 17:04
  but.
• 17:04
  And
• 17:05
  then
• 17:05
  they
• 17:05
  feel
• 17:05
  obligated
• 17:06
  and
• 17:06
  then
• 17:06
  of
• 17:06
  course,
• 17:06
  there's
• 17:07
  trolls
• 17:07
  that
• 17:07
  come
• 17:07
  on.
• 17:08
  So
• 17:08
  it's
• 17:08
  kind
• 17:09
  of
• 17:09
  a
• 17:09
  better
• 17:09
  idea
• 17:09
  to.
• 17:10
  You
• 17:10
  can
• 17:10
  stay
• 17:11
  on
• 17:11
  social
• 17:11
  media
• 17:12
  and
• 17:12
  be
• 17:12
  busy,
• 17:13
  but
• 17:14
  not
• 17:15
  get
• 17:15
  caught
• 17:15
  up
• 17:16
  in
• 17:17
  all
• 17:17
  that
• 17:18
  mess,
• 17:19
  in
• 17:19
  the
• 17:19
  pollution.
• 17:20
  Yeah,
• 17:21
  but
• 17:21
  the
• 17:21
  point
• 17:21
  is
• 17:21
  even
• 17:23
  deeper.
• 17:23
  You
• 17:24
  know,
• 17:24
  I
• 17:24
  try
• 17:24
  to
• 17:25
  give
• 17:25
  20
• 17:25
  minutes
• 17:26
  after
• 17:26
  to
• 17:27
  each
• 17:27
  post
• 17:28
  to
• 17:28
  my
• 17:28
  followers
• 17:29
  responding,
• 17:30
  hey,
• 17:30
  have
• 17:30
  a
• 17:31
  good
• 17:31
  day.
• 17:31
  Thank
• 17:31
  you
• 17:32
  so
• 17:32
  much
• 17:32
  for
• 17:32
  your
• 17:32
  comment.
• 17:32
  Immediately
• 17:33
  after,
• 17:33
  yes,
• 17:34
  20
• 17:34
  minutes,
• 17:35
  no
• 17:35
  more.
• 17:36
  You
• 17:36
  know,
• 17:36
  it's
• 17:37
  the
• 17:37
  time
• 17:37
  that
• 17:37
  I'm
• 17:38
  giving
• 17:38
  to
• 17:38
  the
• 17:38
  people
• 17:39
  that
• 17:39
  follow
• 17:39
  me,
• 17:40
  that
• 17:40
  take
• 17:41
  care
• 17:41
  of
• 17:41
  me.
• 17:42
  And
• 17:43
  actually
• 17:43
  my
• 17:44
  followers
• 17:44
  are
• 17:45
  so
• 17:45
  special
• 17:46
  because
• 17:46
  they
• 17:46
  don't
• 17:46
  follow
• 17:47
  it.
• 17:47
  They
• 17:48
  don't
• 17:48
  follow
• 17:48
  me
• 17:49
  because
• 17:49
  of
• 17:49
  my
• 17:49
  ass
• 17:50
  or.
• 17:50
  No,
• 17:50
  no,
• 17:50
  no.
• 17:51
  They
• 17:51
  follow
• 17:52
  me
• 17:52
  because
• 17:52
  they
• 17:52
  really
• 17:53
  like
• 17:53
  what
• 17:54
  I
• 17:54
  have
• 17:54
  been
• 17:54
  doing.
• 17:55
  So
• 17:55
  they
• 17:55
  write
• 17:56
  to
• 17:56
  me
• 17:57
  so
• 17:58
  educated,
• 17:59
  with
• 18:00
  so
• 18:00
  much
• 18:00
  respect
• 18:01
  and
• 18:01
  I
• 18:01
  really
• 18:01
  appreciate
• 18:02
  that.
• 18:03
  Also,
• 18:04
  62%
• 18:05
  of
• 18:05
  my
• 18:06
  followers
• 18:06
  are
• 18:06
  women.
• 18:08
  That
• 18:08
  for
• 18:08
  a
• 18:08
  woman,
• 18:09
  it's
• 18:09
  so
• 18:10
  difficult.
• 18:10
  Right.
• 18:11
  You
• 18:11
  know,
• 18:11
  you
• 18:12
  usually
• 18:13
  don't
• 18:13
  get
• 18:15
  admiration
• 18:16
  by
• 18:16
  women.
• 18:17
  So
• 18:18
  I
• 18:18
  try
• 18:18
  to
• 18:19
  empower
• 18:20
  women
• 18:20
  and
• 18:20
  I
• 18:20
  try
• 18:21
  to
• 18:21
  give
• 18:21
  that
• 18:21
  time
• 18:22
  to
• 18:22
  respond
• 18:22
  and
• 18:23
  share.
• 18:23
  And
• 18:23
  they
• 18:23
  are
• 18:24
  so
• 18:24
  open
• 18:25
  to
• 18:25
  even
• 18:25
  say,
• 18:26
  like,
• 18:26
  hey,
• 18:26
  I
• 18:27
  have
• 18:27
  had
• 18:27
  a
• 18:27
  bad
• 18:28
  day.
• 18:30
  My
• 18:30
  auntie
• 18:30
  passed
• 18:30
  away.
• 18:31
  Passed
• 18:31
  away.
• 18:31
  And
• 18:32
  I
• 18:32
  felt
• 18:32
  this,
• 18:33
  whatever,
• 18:33
  like
• 18:34
  deepest
• 18:36
  content.
• 18:37
  So
• 18:37
  I
• 18:37
  try
• 18:37
  to,
• 18:38
  you
• 18:38
  know,
• 18:39
  give
• 18:39
  a
• 18:40
  place
• 18:40
  to
• 18:40
  that.
• 18:41
  But
• 18:43
  I
• 18:43
  unfollow
• 18:44
  so
• 18:44
  many
• 18:44
  people.
• 18:45
  Right.
• 18:45
  And
• 18:46
  I'm
• 18:46
  not
• 18:46
  checking
• 18:46
  his
• 18:47
  stories
• 18:47
  and
• 18:48
  I'm
• 18:48
  not,
• 18:48
  you
• 18:49
  know,
• 18:49
  I'm
• 18:49
  just
• 18:50
  more
• 18:50
  in
• 18:50
  my
• 18:50
  own
• 18:51
  words.
• 18:51
  Yeah.
• 18:52
  Because
• 18:52
  I
• 18:52
  realized
• 18:53
  at
• 18:54
  certain
• 18:55
  point
• 18:55
  you
• 18:55
  can
• 18:56
  get
• 18:56
  that
• 18:57
  contamination.
• 18:58
  Absolutely.
• 18:59
  Yeah.
• 19:00
  And
• 19:01
  Instagram
• 19:01
  is
• 19:02
  a
• 19:02
  fake
• 19:02
  platform.
• 19:03
  So
• 19:04
  you
• 19:04
  will
• 19:04
  feel
• 19:04
  like,
• 19:05
  hey,
• 19:05
  am
• 19:06
  I
• 19:07
  not
• 19:07
  doing
• 19:07
  enough?
• 19:08
  Right.
• 19:08
  We
• 19:08
  have
• 19:09
  been
• 19:09
  in
• 19:09
  a
• 19:09
  lockdown
• 19:10
  for
• 19:10
  how
• 19:10
  long?
• 19:11
  And
• 19:11
  I'm
• 19:11
  seeing
• 19:12
  people
• 19:12
  in
• 19:12
  Colombia
• 19:13
  with
• 19:13
  their
• 19:13
  careers.
• 19:14
  If
• 19:14
  I
• 19:15
  would
• 19:15
  be
• 19:15
  there,
• 19:15
  I
• 19:15
  would
• 19:16
  be
• 19:16
  doing
• 19:16
  this
• 19:16
  or
• 19:17
  that
• 19:17
  or,
• 19:17
  you
• 19:17
  know,
• 19:19
  it's
• 19:20
  too
• 19:20
  much.
• 19:21
  I
• 19:21
  think
• 19:21
  it's
• 19:22
  important
• 19:23
  to
• 19:23
  continue,
• 19:24
  like
• 19:24
  in
• 19:24
  the
• 19:25
  present
• 19:25
  yes.
• 19:26
  Personally,
• 19:27
  I
• 19:27
  follow
• 19:27
  Anthony
• 19:28
  for
• 19:28
  his
• 19:28
  ass.
• 19:30
  I
• 19:30
  don't
• 19:30
  have
• 19:30
  no
• 19:30
  Instagram.
• 19:31
  Oh,
• 19:31
  yeah,
• 19:32
  no,
• 19:32
  in
• 19:32
  person.
• 19:33
  Yes.
• 19:35
  That
• 19:35
  one
• 19:35
  was
• 19:35
  behind
• 19:35
  you
• 19:37
  live
• 19:38
  shows.
• 19:39
  Yes.
• 19:39
  I
• 19:39
  mean,
• 19:39
  you
• 19:39
  haven't
• 19:40
  had
• 19:40
  too
• 19:41
  much
• 19:41
  time
• 19:42
  to
• 19:42
  do
• 19:43
  live
• 19:43
  shows
• 19:43
  since
• 19:43
  2018
• 19:44
  because
• 19:44
  everything
• 19:45
  collapsed
• 19:45
  two
• 19:46
  years
• 19:46
  later.
• 19:47
  But
• 19:47
  what
• 19:47
  kind
• 19:48
  of
• 19:48
  live
• 19:48
  shows
• 19:48
  do
• 19:48
  you
• 19:48
  put
• 19:49
  on?
• 19:49
  Do
• 19:49
  you
• 19:49
  have
• 19:49
  a
• 19:50
  live
• 19:50
  band
• 19:50
  or
• 19:50
  do
• 19:51
  you
• 19:51
  like
• 19:51
  to
• 19:52
  really
• 19:52
  produce
• 19:52
  the
• 19:53
  music
• 19:53
  and
• 19:53
  then
• 19:53
  have
• 19:53
  that
• 19:54
  backing
• 19:54
  track
• 19:54
  play
• 19:54
  back
• 19:55
  to
• 19:55
  you
• 19:55
  exactly
• 19:55
  as
• 19:55
  you
• 19:56
  like
• 19:56
  it?
• 19:56
  What's
• 19:57
  the
• 19:57
  show
• 19:57
  like?
• 19:58
  I
• 19:58
  did
• 20:00
  last
• 20:00
  year,
• 20:01
  a
• 20:01
  concert
• 20:02
  for
• 20:02
  a
• 20:02
  Bong
• 20:03
  Latin
• 20:03
  festival
• 20:04
  and
• 20:05
  I
• 20:05
  did
• 20:05
  it
• 20:05
  with
• 20:05
  a
• 20:06
  guitar
• 20:06
  player
• 20:07
  and
• 20:08
  a
• 20:08
  dj.
• 20:10
  Yes.
• 20:11
  Also
• 20:11
  because
• 20:12
  of
• 20:12
  the
• 20:12
  restrictions,
• 20:13
  we
• 20:13
  couldn't
• 20:14
  have
• 20:14
  more
• 20:14
  people.
• 20:15
  But
• 20:15
  I
• 20:15
  would
• 20:16
  love
• 20:16
  to
• 20:16
  play
• 20:17
  my
• 20:17
  music
• 20:17
  with
• 20:17
  a
• 20:17
  band
• 20:18
  and
• 20:18
  I
• 20:19
  would
• 20:19
  love
• 20:20
  that.
• 20:20
  Yes.
• 20:21
  Anthony
• 20:21
  can
• 20:22
  help
• 20:22
  with
• 20:22
  that.
• 20:22
  Yeah,
• 20:23
  absolutely.
• 20:23
  Yeah.
• 20:23
  Well,
• 20:24
  we
• 20:24
  need
• 20:24
  to
• 20:24
  talk
• 20:24
  about
• 20:25
  it
• 20:25
  because.
• 20:26
  Yeah,
• 20:26
  I
• 20:27
  love
• 20:27
  that.
• 20:27
  You
• 20:27
  know,
• 20:29
  I
• 20:29
  think
• 20:29
  it's
• 20:29
  beautiful.
• 20:30
  And
• 20:31
  this
• 20:31
  is
• 20:31
  also
• 20:32
  like
• 20:32
  something
• 20:33
  that
• 20:33
  I
• 20:33
  want
• 20:33
  to
• 20:34
  bring
• 20:34
  back.
• 20:35
  It's
• 20:35
  like
• 20:36
  those
• 20:36
  times
• 20:36
  where
• 20:37
  the
• 20:37
  musicians
• 20:38
  had
• 20:39
  a
• 20:39
  place
• 20:39
  in
• 20:39
  the
• 20:40
  scenario
• 20:40
  too.
• 20:41
  Right.
• 20:42
  When
• 20:42
  the
• 20:42
  guitar
• 20:42
  player
• 20:43
  took
• 20:43
  his
• 20:44
  time
• 20:44
  to
• 20:44
  show,
• 20:45
  you
• 20:45
  know,
• 20:46
  what
• 20:46
  he
• 20:46
  does.
• 20:47
  And
• 20:48
  not
• 20:48
  just
• 20:48
  the
• 20:48
  singer
• 20:49
  being
• 20:49
  the
• 20:50
  big
• 20:50
  show.
• 20:51
  Right.
• 20:51
  The
• 20:51
  whole
• 20:52
  ensemble.
• 20:52
  Exactly,
• 20:53
  exactly.
• 20:54
  So,
• 20:54
  yeah,
• 20:55
  I
• 20:55
  would
• 20:55
  like
• 20:55
  to
• 20:56
  do
• 20:56
  something
• 20:56
  like
• 20:57
  that.
• 20:57
  Yeah,
• 20:57
  we'll
• 20:57
  look
• 20:57
  forward
• 20:58
  to
• 20:58
  that
• 20:58
  and
• 20:58
  hopefully
• 20:58
  put
• 20:59
  something
• 20:59
  together
• 20:59
  with
• 20:59
  you
• 21:00
  at
• 21:00
  some
• 21:00
  point.
• 21:00
  That'll
• 21:01
  be
• 21:01
  awesome
• 21:02
  here
• 21:02
  in
• 21:02
  Toronto
• 21:02
  too.
• 21:03
  Yeah,
• 21:03
  please.
• 21:04
  Actually,
• 21:05
  I
• 21:05
  did
• 21:06
  also
• 21:08
  a
• 21:08
  presentation
• 21:09
  for
• 21:09
  KANIF
• 21:10
  2021.
• 21:11
  Okay,
• 21:11
  nice.
• 21:12
  Yeah.
• 21:12
  And
• 21:12
  it
• 21:12
  was
• 21:13
  so
• 21:13
  special
• 21:14
  with
• 21:14
  that.
• 21:16
  In
• 21:16
  that
• 21:17
  occasion,
• 21:17
  I
• 21:18
  won
• 21:18
  best
• 21:18
  Music
• 21:19
  Video
• 21:21
  with
• 21:21
  the
• 21:21
  song
• 21:22
  Hero.
• 21:22
  That
• 21:23
  is
• 21:23
  the
• 21:23
  song
• 21:23
  that
• 21:24
  I
• 21:24
  did
• 21:24
  for
• 21:24
  my
• 21:24
  father.
• 21:25
  That's
• 21:25
  his
• 21:26
  tribute
• 21:27
  and
• 21:27
  it's
• 21:27
  a
• 21:27
  beautiful
• 21:28
  song.
• 21:28
  It
• 21:29
  has
• 21:29
  the
• 21:29
  English
• 21:30
  lyrics
• 21:30
  if
• 21:30
  you
• 21:31
  guys
• 21:31
  want
• 21:31
  to
• 21:31
  check
• 21:32
  it.
• 21:32
  And
• 21:32
  it's
• 21:32
  an
• 21:33
  impeccable
• 21:34
  film.
• 21:35
  Amazing.
• 21:35
  Yeah,
• 21:36
  congrats
• 21:36
  on
• 21:36
  that.
• 21:37
  Thank
• 21:37
  you
• 21:37
  so
• 21:37
  much.
• 21:38
  And
• 21:38
  so
• 21:38
  huge
• 21:38
  that
• 21:39
  you.
• 21:39
  You
• 21:40
  did
• 21:40
  that
• 21:40
  for
• 21:40
  your
• 21:41
  father
• 21:41
  and
• 21:41
  won
• 21:41
  the
• 21:42
  award
• 21:42
  that.
• 21:42
  I
• 21:42
  know
• 21:42
  you
• 21:43
  said
• 21:43
  awards
• 21:43
  don't
• 21:43
  mean
• 21:43
  as
• 21:44
  much,
• 21:44
  but
• 21:44
  obviously
• 21:44
  there's
• 21:45
  going
• 21:45
  to
• 21:45
  be
• 21:45
  some
• 21:46
  validation
• 21:46
  and
• 21:47
  I'm
• 21:47
  sure
• 21:48
  some
• 21:48
  really
• 21:48
  good
• 21:48
  feelings
• 21:49
  for
• 21:49
  you
• 21:49
  on
• 21:49
  that,
• 21:50
  so
• 21:50
  that's
• 21:50
  huge.
• 21:52
  I
• 21:52
  wanted
• 21:52
  to
• 21:52
  ask
• 21:52
  you
• 21:52
  because
• 21:53
  you
• 21:53
  talked
• 21:53
  a
• 21:53
  lot
• 21:53
  about
• 21:53
  your
• 21:54
  influences
• 21:54
  and
• 21:54
  now
• 21:54
  you're
• 21:55
  in
• 21:55
  Toronto.
• 21:55
  I
• 21:55
  know
• 21:56
  Toronto
• 21:56
  is
• 21:56
  a
• 21:56
  very
• 21:57
  diverse
• 21:57
  place
• 21:57
  and
• 21:58
  we've
• 21:58
  been
• 21:58
  in
• 21:58
  a
• 21:58
  lockdown,
• 21:59
  but
• 21:59
  have
• 21:59
  you
• 22:00
  managed
• 22:01
  or
• 22:01
  have
• 22:01
  you
• 22:01
  gathered
• 22:02
  any
• 22:02
  Toronto
• 22:03
  influence
• 22:03
  either
• 22:04
  to
• 22:04
  your
• 22:04
  style,
• 22:05
  your
• 22:05
  music,
• 22:05
  or
• 22:05
  anything
• 22:06
  at
• 22:06
  all
• 22:07
  so
• 22:07
  far?
• 22:07
  I
• 22:08
  like,
• 22:09
  I
• 22:09
  like
• 22:10
  so
• 22:10
  much.
• 22:10
  Classify.
• 22:11
  Classify.
• 22:12
  Yes.
• 22:13
  I
• 22:13
  like
• 22:13
  that
• 22:13
  guy.
• 22:14
  Interesting.
• 22:15
  Yeah.
• 22:15
  I
• 22:15
  told
• 22:16
  you
• 22:16
  I
• 22:16
  love
• 22:16
  hip
• 22:17
  hop.
• 22:18
  Where
• 22:18
  did
• 22:18
  that
• 22:18
  come
• 22:18
  from,
• 22:19
  by
• 22:19
  the
• 22:19
  way?
• 22:20
  Especially
• 22:21
  in
• 22:21
  Colombia.
• 22:23
  Colombia.
• 22:24
  I
• 22:25
  never
• 22:25
  heard
• 22:25
  about
• 22:26
  him
• 22:26
  in
• 22:26
  Colombia.
• 22:27
  No,
• 22:27
  no,
• 22:27
  just
• 22:27
  hip
• 22:27
  hop
• 22:28
  in
• 22:28
  general.
• 22:29
  Okay.
• 22:31
  The
• 22:32
  point
• 22:32
  is,
• 22:33
  because
• 22:33
  of
• 22:33
  my
• 22:34
  own
• 22:34
  investigations
• 22:35
  in
• 22:35
  music,
• 22:36
  I
• 22:36
  always
• 22:37
  listen
• 22:37
  to
• 22:38
  the
• 22:38
  music
• 22:38
  that.
• 22:38
  That
• 22:38
  anyone
• 22:39
  else
• 22:39
  was
• 22:39
  listening
• 22:40
  to.
• 22:41
  So
• 22:41
  my.
• 22:42
  My
• 22:43
  way
• 22:43
  of
• 22:43
  looking
• 22:44
  music
• 22:44
  at
• 22:45
  that
• 22:45
  time,
• 22:45
  it
• 22:46
  was
• 22:46
  like
• 22:46
  going
• 22:46
  to
• 22:47
  YouTube
• 22:47
  and
• 22:48
  put,
• 22:48
  you
• 22:49
  know,
• 22:49
  a
• 22:49
  word,
• 22:50
  for
• 22:50
  example,
• 22:51
  love.
• 22:51
  Right.
• 22:52
  And
• 22:52
  then
• 22:52
  so
• 22:53
  many
• 22:53
  songs
• 22:53
  with
• 22:54
  love.
• 22:54
  Or
• 22:55
  you.
• 22:55
  You
• 22:56
  are
• 22:56
  the.
• 22:57
  So,
• 22:57
  you
• 22:57
  know,
• 22:58
  and
• 22:58
  I
• 22:58
  was
• 22:58
  checking
• 22:59
  the
• 22:59
  artist,
• 23:00
  just,
• 23:01
  you
• 23:01
  know,
• 23:02
  giving
• 23:02
  that
• 23:02
  grace
• 23:03
  of
• 23:04
  30
• 23:04
  seconds,
• 23:05
  1
• 23:05
  minute,
• 23:05
  and
• 23:06
  say,
• 23:06
  like,
• 23:06
  wow,
• 23:07
  what
• 23:07
  a
• 23:07
  boys.
• 23:08
  I
• 23:08
  want
• 23:08
  to
• 23:09
  hear
• 23:09
  more
• 23:09
  of
• 23:09
  this
• 23:10
  guy.
• 23:10
  So,
• 23:10
  like,
• 23:11
  that
• 23:12
  I
• 23:12
  always
• 23:12
  discover.
• 23:13
  Discovered
• 23:14
  people.
• 23:15
  That's
• 23:15
  great.
• 23:15
  That's
• 23:16
  online.
• 23:16
  So
• 23:17
  who
• 23:17
  was
• 23:17
  the
• 23:17
  first
• 23:17
  guy
• 23:18
  you
• 23:18
  were
• 23:18
  like
• 23:18
  or
• 23:18
  girl
• 23:19
  that
• 23:19
  when
• 23:20
  you
• 23:20
  heard
• 23:20
  them,
• 23:20
  you're
• 23:20
  like,
• 23:21
  this
• 23:21
  is
• 23:21
  hip
• 23:21
  hop.
• 23:22
  I
• 23:22
  like
• 23:22
  hip
• 23:22
  hop.
• 23:24
  Do
• 23:24
  you
• 23:24
  remember?
• 23:24
  Or
• 23:24
  one
• 23:25
  of
• 23:25
  the
• 23:25
  first
• 23:25
  ones.
• 23:25
  Yes.
• 23:27
  I'm
• 23:27
  scared
• 23:28
  to
• 23:28
  say
• 23:28
  the
• 23:28
  name,
• 23:29
  but
• 23:29
  please
• 23:29
  correct.
• 23:30
  Correct
• 23:31
  this.
• 23:31
  Okay.
• 23:32
  You're
• 23:32
  looking
• 23:32
  at
• 23:32
  me
• 23:32
  like
• 23:32
  I'm
• 23:33
  going
• 23:33
  to
• 23:33
  know.
• 23:33
  Okay.
• 23:34
  I
• 23:34
  would
• 23:34
  say
• 23:35
  Lauren
• 23:36
  Lauryn
• 23:36
  Hill.
• 23:38
  That's
• 23:39
  a
• 23:39
  great
• 23:39
  first
• 23:39
  one,
• 23:39
  dad.
• 23:40
  Woman.
• 23:41
  Her
• 23:42
  boys,
• 23:43
  her
• 23:43
  style.
• 23:45
  Everything
• 23:45
  is
• 23:45
  everything.
• 23:46
  I
• 23:46
  was
• 23:47
  a
• 23:47
  core
• 23:47
  memory
• 23:48
  for
• 23:48
  me.
• 23:48
  Like,
• 23:49
  you
• 23:49
  know,
• 23:49
  you
• 23:49
  have
• 23:49
  some
• 23:50
  memories.
• 23:50
  You're
• 23:50
  like,
• 23:50
  this
• 23:50
  made
• 23:50
  me
• 23:51
  a
• 23:51
  person.
• 23:51
  Seeing
• 23:51
  that
• 23:52
  video
• 23:52
  on
• 23:52
  repeat
• 23:53
  on
• 23:53
  TV
• 23:53
  did
• 23:54
  something
• 23:54
  to
• 23:54
  my
• 23:54
  head.
• 23:55
  Wow.
• 23:55
  Yeah.
• 23:55
  Of
• 23:56
  that
• 23:56
  record
• 23:56
  with
• 23:56
  the
• 23:56
  city
• 23:57
  on
• 23:57
  it.
• 23:57
  Yeah,
• 23:57
  yeah,
• 23:58
  yeah,
• 23:58
  I
• 23:58
  do.
• 23:59
  Who
• 23:59
  was
• 23:59
  your
• 23:59
  first,
• 24:00
  like,
• 24:00
  hip
• 24:00
  hop
• 24:01
  memory
• 24:01
  when
• 24:01
  you.
• 24:02
  Maestro
• 24:02
  Fresh
• 24:02
  West
• 24:03
  Canadian.
• 24:04
  I
• 24:05
  was
• 24:05
  my
• 24:05
  aunt.
• 24:06
  She
• 24:06
  was
• 24:06
  older.
• 24:07
  She
• 24:07
  bought
• 24:07
  me
• 24:09
  Symphony
• 24:09
  in
• 24:09
  Effect
• 24:10
  and
• 24:10
  cassette.
• 24:11
  That's
• 24:11
  how
• 24:11
  old
• 24:11
  I
• 24:12
  am.
• 24:12
  And
• 24:13
  what's
• 24:13
  a
• 24:13
  cassette?
• 24:15
  Some
• 24:15
  people.
• 24:15
  Some
• 24:15
  people
• 24:15
  are
• 24:16
  wondering.
• 24:16
  I
• 24:17
  ask
• 24:17
  for
• 24:17
  the
• 24:17
  people.
• 24:17
  Here
• 24:18
  you
• 24:19
  have.
• 24:20
  We'll
• 24:21
  take
• 24:21
  a
• 24:21
  picture.
• 24:22
  But
• 24:22
  yeah,
• 24:22
  that
• 24:22
  was
• 24:23
  my
• 24:23
  first
• 24:23
  exposure.
• 24:24
  Him
• 24:24
  and
• 24:24
  father
• 24:24
  mc.
• 24:25
  And
• 24:26
  that
• 24:26
  goes
• 24:26
  really,
• 24:27
  really
• 24:27
  far
• 24:27
  back.
• 24:27
  And
• 24:27
  then,
• 24:28
  like,
• 24:28
  you.
• 24:29
  You
• 24:29
  get
• 24:29
  to
• 24:29
  go,
• 24:29
  like,
• 24:30
  what
• 24:30
  else
• 24:30
  is
• 24:30
  there?
• 24:31
  Yeah,
• 24:31
  but
• 24:31
  Lauryn
• 24:32
  Hill.
• 24:32
  Wow,
• 24:32
  that's
• 24:32
  a
• 24:32
  great
• 24:33
  first
• 24:33
  pick.
• 24:33
  I
• 24:34
  mean,
• 24:34
  that
• 24:34
  album,
• 24:35
  was
• 24:35
  it
• 24:35
  the
• 24:35
  Fugees
• 24:36
  or
• 24:36
  was
• 24:36
  it
• 24:36
  her
• 24:36
  album
• 24:38
  the
• 24:38
  Fugees
• 24:39
  first?
• 24:40
  Then
• 24:40
  I
• 24:41
  started
• 24:41
  to
• 24:41
  check
• 24:42
  more.
• 24:42
  Yeah.
• 24:43
  About
• 24:43
  hair
• 24:43
  and
• 24:44
  all
• 24:44
  that.
• 24:45
  Yeah.
• 24:45
  But
• 24:46
  at
• 24:46
  that
• 24:46
  time
• 24:47
  in.
• 24:47
  In.
• 24:48
  In
• 24:48
  my
• 24:49
  adolescence,
• 24:49
  I
• 24:50
  was
• 24:50
  listening
• 24:50
  to
• 24:51
  so
• 24:51
  much
• 24:51
  rock
• 24:52
  too,
• 24:52
  right?
• 24:53
  Yeah.
• 24:53
  So
• 24:54
  English
• 24:54
  or
• 24:54
  Spanish?
• 24:55
  English.
• 24:56
  And
• 24:56
  then
• 24:56
  I
• 24:57
  came.
• 24:57
  I
• 24:58
  went
• 24:58
  to
• 25:01
  New
• 25:01
  punk
• 25:02
  and
• 25:02
  Spanish,
• 25:03
  like
• 25:04
  from
• 25:04
  Argentina
• 25:05
  and
• 25:06
  that
• 25:06
  type
• 25:06
  of
• 25:07
  rock.
• 25:08
  So.
• 25:08
  Yeah.
• 25:08
  Is
• 25:09
  that
• 25:09
  specific?
• 25:09
  Like,
• 25:10
  I'm
• 25:10
  a
• 25:10
  little
• 25:10
  ignorant
• 25:11
  to
• 25:11
  Argentina.
• 25:11
  No.
• 25:12
  Well,
• 25:13
  the
• 25:13
  point
• 25:13
  is,
• 25:13
  in
• 25:14
  Argentina,
• 25:14
  there
• 25:15
  was
• 25:15
  a
• 25:15
  huge
• 25:16
  movement
• 25:17
  with
• 25:17
  the
• 25:17
  rock.
• 25:18
  It
• 25:18
  was
• 25:18
  one
• 25:19
  of
• 25:19
  the
• 25:19
  first
• 25:20
  places
• 25:21
  in
• 25:21
  having
• 25:22
  rock
• 25:23
  in
• 25:23
  Espanol.
• 25:23
  Oh,
• 25:24
  okay.
• 25:24
  And
• 25:25
  what
• 25:25
  were
• 25:25
  some
• 25:25
  of
• 25:25
  the,
• 25:25
  like,
• 25:26
  bigger
• 25:26
  acts
• 25:27
  to
• 25:27
  come
• 25:27
  out
• 25:27
  of
• 25:28
  like
• 25:28
  some
• 25:28
  of
• 25:28
  the
• 25:28
  bigger
• 25:29
  Argentina
• 25:29
  rock
• 25:30
  bands.
• 25:30
  Are
• 25:31
  they
• 25:31
  known
• 25:31
  internationally?
• 25:33
  I
• 25:33
  don't
• 25:33
  know
• 25:33
  if
• 25:34
  they
• 25:34
  are
• 25:34
  known
• 25:34
  internationally.
• 25:36
  That's
• 25:36
  the
• 25:36
  thing
• 25:36
  about
• 25:37
  the
• 25:37
  Latin
• 25:37
  Grammys.
• 25:38
  There's
• 25:38
  some
• 25:38
  sort
• 25:38
  of
• 25:38
  divide
• 25:39
  where
• 25:39
  people
• 25:40
  from
• 25:41
  the
• 25:41
  north
• 25:41
  of.
• 25:42
  Of
• 25:42
  Mexico
• 25:43
  are
• 25:43
  just
• 25:43
  not
• 25:44
  interested,
• 25:44
  probably
• 25:45
  because
• 25:45
  of
• 25:45
  the
• 25:45
  language,
• 25:46
  which
• 25:46
  is
• 25:47
  so
• 25:47
  interesting,
• 25:47
  because
• 25:47
  who
• 25:47
  cares
• 25:48
  about
• 25:48
  the
• 25:48
  words?
• 25:48
  I
• 25:49
  think
• 25:49
  it
• 25:49
  might
• 25:49
  be
• 25:49
  by
• 25:49
  design
• 25:50
  too.
• 25:51
  I
• 25:51
  mean,
• 25:52
  it's
• 25:52
  a.
• 25:52
  It's
• 25:52
  a
• 25:52
  big,
• 25:53
  complicated,
• 25:53
  oh
• 25:53
  no
• 25:54
  system.
• 25:57
  So.
• 25:58
  Yeah,
• 25:58
  I
• 25:59
  think
• 25:59
  that's.
• 25:59
  That
• 25:59
  might
• 26:00
  be
• 26:00
  intentional.
• 26:00
  Yeah.
• 26:01
  That
• 26:01
  we
• 26:02
  don't
• 26:02
  know.
• 26:04
  I
• 26:04
  would
• 26:04
  say.
• 26:05
  I'm
• 26:05
  sorry.
• 26:05
  I
• 26:06
  think
• 26:06
  we
• 26:06
  have
• 26:07
  been
• 26:07
  more
• 26:08
  influential
• 26:09
  by
• 26:10
  you
• 26:11
  guys,
• 26:11
  North
• 26:11
  America,
• 26:13
  and
• 26:13
  the
• 26:13
  way
• 26:13
  that
• 26:13
  we
• 26:14
  have
• 26:14
  been
• 26:14
  open
• 26:15
  to
• 26:16
  listen
• 26:16
  to
• 26:16
  you,
• 26:16
  because
• 26:17
  you
• 26:17
  guys,
• 26:18
  of
• 26:18
  course,
• 26:19
  the
• 26:19
  countries
• 26:20
  are
• 26:20
  ahead,
• 26:21
  right?
• 26:21
  Yeah.
• 26:22
  Right.
• 26:23
  At
• 26:23
  the
• 26:24
  opposite
• 26:24
  side.
• 26:25
  I
• 26:25
  would
• 26:25
  say
• 26:26
  it's
• 26:26
  kind
• 26:26
  of
• 26:26
  like
• 26:27
  ignorant
• 26:28
  at
• 26:29
  certain
• 26:29
  point.
• 26:30
  I
• 26:30
  wouldn't.
• 26:30
  I
• 26:31
  won't
• 26:31
  say
• 26:32
  ignorance,
• 26:33
  but
• 26:33
  I
• 26:33
  would
• 26:33
  say
• 26:34
  you
• 26:34
  guys
• 26:35
  are
• 26:35
  so
• 26:36
  close
• 26:37
  in
• 26:37
  your
• 26:37
  own
• 26:38
  Babel.
• 26:39
  A
• 26:39
  certain
• 26:40
  way.
• 26:40
  I
• 26:40
  agree.
• 26:41
  Like.
• 26:42
  Well,
• 26:42
  yeah,
• 26:43
  yeah.
• 26:44
  It's
• 26:44
  something
• 26:44
  that.
• 26:45
  It
• 26:45
  doesn't
• 26:45
  hurt,
• 26:46
  you
• 26:46
  know,
• 26:47
  like
• 26:47
  we.
• 26:49
  I
• 26:49
  just
• 26:49
  learn
• 26:50
  English
• 26:50
  here.
• 26:50
  Right.
• 26:51
  So
• 26:52
  before
• 26:52
  I
• 26:53
  was,
• 26:53
  you
• 26:53
  know,
• 26:54
  singing
• 26:54
  the
• 26:55
  songs
• 26:55
  like,
• 26:56
  as
• 26:56
  I
• 26:56
  could
• 26:57
  in
• 26:57
  English
• 26:58
  in
• 26:58
  my
• 26:58
  own
• 26:59
  version,
• 26:59
  like
• 27:00
  Churi
• 27:00
  Chu,
• 27:01
  you
• 27:01
  know,
• 27:01
  like
• 27:02
  that.
• 27:02
  That's
• 27:02
  what
• 27:03
  happened.
• 27:05
  But
• 27:05
  what
• 27:05
  happened
• 27:06
  with
• 27:06
  you
• 27:06
  guys?
• 27:07
  Why
• 27:07
  you
• 27:07
  are
• 27:08
  not
• 27:08
  open
• 27:08
  to
• 27:09
  something
• 27:10
  different?
• 27:11
  What
• 27:12
  is
• 27:12
  the
• 27:14
  market
• 27:15
  doing
• 27:16
  into
• 27:16
  our
• 27:16
  heads
• 27:17
  that
• 27:17
  we
• 27:18
  are
• 27:18
  not
• 27:18
  open
• 27:18
  to
• 27:19
  explore?
• 27:21
  Even
• 27:21
  new
• 27:21
  sounds
• 27:22
  and
• 27:22
  new
• 27:23
  languages
• 27:23
  that
• 27:24
  you
• 27:24
  can
• 27:24
  just,
• 27:25
  you
• 27:25
  know.
• 27:25
  Because
• 27:26
  Spanish
• 27:26
  is
• 27:26
  so
• 27:27
  sexy.
• 27:27
  Yeah,
• 27:27
  yeah.
• 27:28
  And
• 27:28
  it's
• 27:28
  soft
• 27:29
  and
• 27:29
  it.
• 27:29
  It's
• 27:30
  easy
• 27:30
  to
• 27:31
  assimilate.
• 27:31
  Absolutely.
• 27:32
  I
• 27:32
  think
• 27:32
  it
• 27:33
  was
• 27:33
  entirely
• 27:34
  financial
• 27:35
  because
• 27:36
  now
• 27:36
  anybody
• 27:36
  can
• 27:37
  make
• 27:37
  a
• 27:37
  movie
• 27:37
  on
• 27:38
  their
• 27:38
  phone.
• 27:38
  Yeah.
• 27:38
  But
• 27:39
  before
• 27:39
  that,
• 27:39
  you
• 27:39
  needed,
• 27:40
  like,
• 27:40
  to
• 27:41
  make
• 27:41
  anything,
• 27:41
  an
• 27:42
  album,
• 27:42
  a
• 27:42
  movie,
• 27:42
  you
• 27:42
  needed
• 27:43
  like
• 27:43
  at
• 27:44
  least
• 27:44
  a
• 27:44
  fifth
• 27:44
  of
• 27:44
  a
• 27:45
  million
• 27:45
  dollars,
• 27:45
  you
• 27:46
  know,
• 27:46
  and
• 27:46
  only
• 27:47
  Canada
• 27:47
  didn't
• 27:47
  have
• 27:47
  that
• 27:48
  kind
• 27:48
  of
• 27:48
  money
• 27:48
  either.
• 27:48
  If
• 27:48
  we
• 27:48
  look
• 27:49
  back,
• 27:49
  we
• 27:49
  had
• 27:49
  what
• 27:50
  Rush
• 27:51
  and
• 27:51
  other
• 27:51
  American
• 27:52
  artists
• 27:52
  basically,
• 27:53
  that
• 27:53
  we
• 27:54
  worked
• 27:54
  on.
• 27:54
  I
• 27:54
  mean,
• 27:54
  there
• 27:55
  were
• 27:55
  a
• 27:55
  lot
• 27:55
  of.
• 27:55
  There
• 27:55
  was
• 27:55
  the
• 27:56
  guess
• 27:56
  who
• 27:56
  and
• 27:56
  everything,
• 27:56
  but
• 27:58
  America,
• 27:59
  particularly
• 28:00
  Hollywood
• 28:00
  and
• 28:00
  New
• 28:00
  York,
• 28:00
  had
• 28:01
  all
• 28:01
  the
• 28:01
  money
• 28:01
  to
• 28:01
  make.
• 28:01
  So
• 28:02
  then
• 28:02
  if
• 28:02
  people
• 28:02
  get
• 28:02
  used
• 28:03
  to
• 28:03
  that
• 28:03
  and
• 28:03
  then
• 28:04
  they
• 28:04
  see
• 28:04
  a
• 28:04
  music
• 28:04
  video
• 28:05
  from
• 28:05
  Columbia
• 28:05
  shot
• 28:06
  on
• 28:06
  a
• 28:06
  DV
• 28:07
  tape.
• 28:07
  Right.
• 28:07
  Which
• 28:08
  is
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  best
• 28:08
  they
• 28:08
  had
• 28:08
  access
• 28:09
  to.
• 28:09
  You
• 28:09
  immediately
• 28:10
  go,
• 28:10
  I.
• 28:11
  That's.
• 28:11
  I'm
• 28:11
  used
• 28:11
  to
• 28:12
  nicer
• 28:12
  things
• 28:12
  than
• 28:12
  this
• 28:13
  and
• 28:13
  you
• 28:13
  don't
• 28:13
  even
• 28:13
  give
• 28:13
  it
• 28:13
  a
• 28:13
  chance.
• 28:14
  But
• 28:14
  now,
• 28:14
  even
• 28:15
  on
• 28:15
  TikTok,
• 28:15
  if
• 28:15
  you're
• 28:16
  just
• 28:16
  scrolling
• 28:16
  randomly
• 28:16
  through
• 28:17
  TikTok
• 28:18
  and
• 28:18
  you
• 28:18
  listen,
• 28:18
  like,
• 28:18
  half
• 28:19
  the
• 28:19
  songs
• 28:19
  are
• 28:19
  in
• 28:19
  Russian.
• 28:20
  Yeah.
• 28:20
  There's
• 28:21
  songs
• 28:21
  in
• 28:21
  Spanish.
• 28:22
  Yeah.
• 28:22
  And
• 28:22
  people.
• 28:22
  Because
• 28:23
  now
• 28:23
  anybody
• 28:23
  can
• 28:24
  buy
• 28:24
  an
• 28:24
  HD
• 28:24
  camera
• 28:25
  or
• 28:25
  a
• 28:25
  4K
• 28:25
  camera.
• 28:26
  Anybody
• 28:26
  can
• 28:26
  buy
• 28:26
  a
• 28:26
  zoom,
• 28:28
  it's
• 28:28
  in
• 28:28
  your
• 28:28
  phone.
• 28:28
  So
• 28:29
  now,
• 28:29
  now
• 28:29
  that
• 28:29
  it's
• 28:30
  democratized,
• 28:31
  I
• 28:32
  think
• 28:32
  that's
• 28:32
  what
• 28:32
  the
• 28:32
  closed
• 28:33
  mindedness
• 28:33
  was.
• 28:33
  It
• 28:34
  was
• 28:34
  just
• 28:34
  every.
• 28:35
  Things
• 28:35
  like
• 28:36
  Russian
• 28:36
  movies
• 28:37
  used
• 28:37
  to
• 28:38
  be
• 28:38
  like,
• 28:38
  I
• 28:38
  don't
• 28:39
  want
• 28:39
  to
• 28:39
  finish
• 28:39
  this.
• 28:39
  It
• 28:39
  looks
• 28:40
  so
• 28:40
  weird.
• 28:40
  They'd
• 28:41
  like
• 28:41
  lit
• 28:41
  this
• 28:41
  with
• 28:41
  a
• 28:42
  table
• 28:42
  lamp.
• 28:42
  Yeah.
• 28:43
  But
• 28:43
  now
• 28:44
  like
• 28:44
  the
• 28:45
  equipment
• 28:45
  is
• 28:45
  so
• 28:45
  much
• 28:45
  cheaper.
• 28:46
  LED
• 28:46
  lights
• 28:46
  are
• 28:46
  cheaper,
• 28:47
  cameras
• 28:47
  are
• 28:47
  cheaper.
• 28:48
  And
• 28:48
  I
• 28:49
  think
• 28:49
  now
• 28:49
  if
• 28:49
  we
• 28:50
  wait
• 28:50
  10
• 28:50
  years,
• 28:51
  we'll
• 28:51
  really
• 28:51
  see
• 28:51
  what
• 28:52
  people
• 28:52
  are
• 28:52
  into
• 28:52
  and
• 28:52
  what
• 28:52
  they're
• 28:53
  not
• 28:53
  into.
• 28:53
  Because
• 28:53
  now
• 28:54
  anybody
• 28:54
  from
• 28:54
  anywhere
• 28:55
  can
• 28:55
  make
• 28:55
  a
• 28:56
  good
• 28:56
  sounding
• 28:56
  song.
• 28:57
  But
• 28:57
  I
• 28:57
  think
• 28:57
  she
• 28:58
  brought
• 28:58
  up
• 28:58
  a
• 28:58
  good
• 28:58
  point.
• 28:59
  Where
• 28:59
  the
• 28:59
  world
• 29:00
  will
• 29:01
  hear
• 29:01
  American
• 29:02
  music,
• 29:03
  but
• 29:03
  Americans
• 29:04
  don't
• 29:04
  hear
• 29:04
  world
• 29:05
  music
• 29:05
  as
• 29:05
  often.
• 29:05
  Like
• 29:06
  that
• 29:06
  exchange
• 29:06
  is
• 29:07
  really
• 29:07
  one
• 29:07
  sided.
• 29:08
  Where
• 29:08
  the
• 29:08
  world
• 29:08
  hears
• 29:09
  all
• 29:09
  of
• 29:09
  the
• 29:10
  popular
• 29:10
  US
• 29:10
  songs
• 29:11
  but
• 29:11
  we
• 29:11
  don't
• 29:11
  get.
• 29:11
  To
• 29:11
  hear
• 29:11
  because
• 29:12
  of
• 29:12
  the
• 29:12
  money,
• 29:13
  because
• 29:13
  of
• 29:13
  the
• 29:13
  cost
• 29:13
  of
• 29:14
  production,
• 29:14
  which
• 29:14
  has
• 29:14
  changed.
• 29:15
  Yes.
• 29:15
  But
• 29:15
  if
• 29:16
  you
• 29:16
  take
• 29:16
  that
• 29:16
  away,
• 29:17
  which
• 29:18
  is
• 29:18
  totally
• 29:18
  true
• 29:19
  and
• 29:19
  I'm
• 29:20
  with
• 29:20
  you.
• 29:20
  Yeah,
• 29:21
  I
• 29:21
  agree
• 29:21
  with
• 29:21
  this
• 29:21
  point.
• 29:23
  I
• 29:23
  would
• 29:23
  say
• 29:23
  is
• 29:24
  also
• 29:24
  kind
• 29:25
  of
• 29:25
  ego
• 29:26
  involved.
• 29:27
  Yeah,
• 29:27
  of
• 29:28
  course.
• 29:28
  Right,
• 29:29
  Absolutely.
• 29:30
  Yeah.
• 29:31
  That's
• 29:31
  the
• 29:31
  point
• 29:31
  is
• 29:32
  like
• 29:32
  if
• 29:33
  we
• 29:33
  are
• 29:33
  here,
• 29:34
  why
• 29:34
  we
• 29:35
  need
• 29:35
  to
• 29:35
  go
• 29:35
  down
• 29:36
  to
• 29:36
  see
• 29:36
  what
• 29:37
  is
• 29:37
  there.
• 29:37
  Exactly.
• 29:38
  And
• 29:39
  you
• 29:39
  know,
• 29:39
  in
• 29:40
  art
• 29:40
  you
• 29:40
  need
• 29:41
  to
• 29:41
  learn
• 29:41
  from
• 29:41
  everywhere
• 29:42
  the
• 29:42
  influences.
• 29:43
  Yeah.
• 29:43
  And
• 29:44
  I
• 29:44
  mean
• 29:44
  they
• 29:44
  do
• 29:45
  get
• 29:45
  validation.
• 29:45
  For
• 29:46
  example,
• 29:46
  we
• 29:46
  talked
• 29:46
  about
• 29:46
  Eurovision
• 29:47
  with
• 29:48
  Mihaela
• 29:49
  and
• 29:49
  one
• 29:49
  thing
• 29:50
  that
• 29:50
  I've
• 29:50
  noticed,
• 29:51
  because
• 29:51
  Eurovision.
• 29:51
  Have
• 29:52
  you
• 29:52
  heard
• 29:52
  of
• 29:52
  Eurovision?
• 29:53
  It's
• 29:53
  like
• 29:53
  a
• 29:53
  music
• 29:54
  Olympics
• 29:54
  for
• 29:55
  Europe.
• 29:56
  Every
• 29:56
  year
• 29:56
  all
• 29:57
  the
• 29:57
  countries
• 29:58
  present
• 29:58
  their
• 29:58
  song
• 29:59
  and
• 29:59
  then
• 30:00
  the
• 30:00
  winner
• 30:00
  hosts
• 30:01
  it
• 30:01
  next
• 30:01
  year.
• 30:02
  And
• 30:02
  it
• 30:02
  used
• 30:02
  to
• 30:02
  be
• 30:03
  that
• 30:03
  every
• 30:03
  country
• 30:03
  came
• 30:04
  with
• 30:04
  a
• 30:04
  song
• 30:04
  in
• 30:04
  their
• 30:04
  own
• 30:05
  language,
• 30:05
  with
• 30:05
  their
• 30:06
  own
• 30:06
  culture.
• 30:07
  And
• 30:07
  now
• 30:07
  if
• 30:07
  you
• 30:07
  watch
• 30:08
  Eurovision,
• 30:08
  we
• 30:08
  should
• 30:08
  watch
• 30:09
  this
• 30:10
  year.
• 30:10
  It's
• 30:11
  all
• 30:11
  Americanized,
• 30:12
  quote,
• 30:12
  unquote
• 30:12
  music.
• 30:13
  The
• 30:13
  Greeks
• 30:13
  are
• 30:14
  singing
• 30:14
  in
• 30:14
  English
• 30:15
  and
• 30:15
  doing
• 30:15
  like
• 30:16
  pop
• 30:16
  moves
• 30:16
  and
• 30:16
  stuff.
• 30:17
  Everybody's
• 30:17
  just
• 30:18
  trying.
• 30:18
  And
• 30:18
  Americans
• 30:19
  watch
• 30:19
  this
• 30:19
  and
• 30:19
  go,
• 30:20
  okay,
• 30:20
  so
• 30:20
  we
• 30:20
  are
• 30:21
  the
• 30:21
  best.
• 30:21
  Right.
• 30:22
  I
• 30:22
  think
• 30:22
  now
• 30:23
  that
• 30:24
  everybody
• 30:25
  can
• 30:26
  make
• 30:26
  music
• 30:26
  in
• 30:26
  their
• 30:27
  bedroom.
• 30:28
  It's
• 30:28
  time
• 30:28
  that
• 30:28
  people
• 30:29
  from
• 30:29
  other
• 30:30
  countries
• 30:31
  make
• 30:31
  music
• 30:31
  not
• 30:32
  in
• 30:32
  English
• 30:32
  on
• 30:33
  purpose
• 30:33
  and
• 30:33
  go
• 30:33
  deal
• 30:33
  with
• 30:34
  this.
• 30:34
  I
• 30:34
  think
• 30:34
  that's
• 30:35
  what's
• 30:35
  happened
• 30:36
  and
• 30:36
  that's.
• 30:36
  What
• 30:36
  you're
• 30:36
  doing
• 30:36
  too.
• 30:37
  Well,
• 30:37
  the
• 30:37
  point
• 30:38
  is,
• 30:38
  yeah,
• 30:39
  you
• 30:39
  want
• 30:40
  to
• 30:41
  be
• 30:41
  easy
• 30:41
  to
• 30:42
  digest,
• 30:43
  but
• 30:43
  not
• 30:43
  for
• 30:44
  that.
• 30:44
  You
• 30:44
  need
• 30:44
  to
• 30:44
  lose
• 30:45
  your
• 30:45
  essence.
• 30:46
  Essence,
• 30:46
  yeah.
• 30:47
  So,
• 30:47
  yeah,
• 30:48
  I'm
• 30:48
  trying
• 30:48
  to
• 30:48
  put
• 30:49
  something
• 30:49
  in
• 30:50
  English
• 30:50
  because
• 30:51
  I'm
• 30:52
  trying
• 30:52
  to
• 30:52
  be
• 30:53
  empathy
• 30:53
  with
• 30:54
  you
• 30:54
  guys.
• 30:54
  And
• 30:54
  I
• 30:55
  would
• 30:55
  say,
• 30:55
  okay,
• 30:55
  if
• 30:56
  it's
• 30:56
  everything
• 30:56
  in
• 30:56
  Spanish.
• 30:58
  I
• 30:58
  would
• 30:58
  like
• 30:59
  a
• 30:59
  piece
• 31:00
  that
• 31:00
  I
• 31:00
  can
• 31:01
  sing
• 31:01
  and
• 31:02
  understand.
• 31:03
  So
• 31:03
  then
• 31:04
  I
• 31:04
  put
• 31:04
  that
• 31:05
  in
• 31:05
  the.
• 31:06
  In
• 31:06
  the
• 31:06
  Latin
• 31:07
  dance
• 31:07
  and
• 31:07
  the
• 31:08
  songs
• 31:08
  that
• 31:08
  are
• 31:08
  coming.
• 31:09
  And
• 31:09
  I
• 31:10
  think
• 31:10
  they
• 31:10
  have
• 31:11
  like
• 31:12
  a
• 31:12
  North
• 31:12
  American
• 31:13
  influence,
• 31:14
  but
• 31:15
  also
• 31:15
  something
• 31:16
  new
• 31:16
  to
• 31:17
  bring
• 31:17
  into
• 31:18
  the
• 31:18
  table.
• 31:18
  Yeah.
• 31:20
  So
• 31:20
  I
• 31:21
  don't
• 31:21
  know.
• 31:21
  I
• 31:21
  think
• 31:22
  is.
• 31:22
  That's
• 31:23
  the
• 31:23
  point
• 31:23
  in
• 31:24
  art.
• 31:24
  We
• 31:24
  should
• 31:25
  be
• 31:25
  more
• 31:25
  open
• 31:26
  because
• 31:26
  there
• 31:26
  is
• 31:27
  no
• 31:27
  rule.
• 31:27
  Yeah.
• 31:28
  We
• 31:28
  can
• 31:28
  mix
• 31:28
  everything
• 31:29
  with
• 31:29
  everything
• 31:30
  in
• 31:31
  have
• 31:32
  like
• 31:32
  thousands
• 31:33
  and
• 31:33
  millions
• 31:34
  of
• 31:34
  combinations.
• 31:35
  And
• 31:36
  yes,
• 31:36
  everyone
• 31:37
  has
• 31:37
  a
• 31:37
  platform
• 31:38
  to
• 31:38
  do
• 31:38
  everything.
• 31:39
  I
• 31:39
  don't
• 31:40
  know
• 31:40
  if
• 31:40
  that
• 31:40
  is
• 31:40
  good
• 31:41
  or
• 31:41
  not.
• 31:42
  I
• 31:42
  think
• 31:42
  we
• 31:42
  are
• 31:43
  having
• 31:43
  so
• 31:43
  much.
• 31:44
  It's
• 31:44
  good
• 31:44
  for
• 31:44
  bursting
• 31:45
  the
• 31:45
  bubble.
• 31:45
  It
• 31:46
  definitely
• 31:46
  bursts
• 31:46
  the
• 31:46
  bubble.
• 31:47
  So
• 31:47
  that's
• 31:47
  a
• 31:47
  plus.
• 31:48
  Yep.
• 31:48
  Yeah.
• 31:49
  And
• 31:49
  not
• 31:50
  again.
• 31:51
  UD
• 31:51
  said
• 31:52
  like
• 31:53
  your
• 31:53
  algorithm
• 31:54
  is
• 31:55
  giving
• 31:55
  you
• 31:55
  what
• 31:55
  you
• 31:55
  are
• 31:56
  watching.
• 31:56
  So
• 31:56
  what
• 31:57
  is
• 31:57
  your
• 31:57
  bubble?
• 31:57
  What
• 31:58
  is
• 31:58
  my
• 31:58
  bubble?
• 31:58
  Is
• 31:59
  the
• 31:59
  same
• 31:59
  one.
• 32:00
  No,
• 32:00
  it's
• 32:01
  a
• 32:01
  bubble.
• 32:02
  So
• 32:02
  I
• 32:03
  don't
• 32:03
  know.
• 32:03
  I
• 32:04
  think
• 32:04
  we
• 32:04
  are
• 32:05
  having
• 32:05
  so
• 32:06
  much
• 32:06
  information
• 32:06
  at
• 32:07
  the
• 32:07
  time
• 32:07
  that
• 32:07
  is
• 32:08
  coming.
• 32:08
  Like
• 32:09
  a
• 32:09
  misinformation.
• 32:10
  Yeah.
• 32:10
  It's
• 32:11
  dangerous.
• 32:11
  Yes.
• 32:12
  Very
• 32:12
  dangerous.
• 32:13
  And
• 32:13
  we
• 32:14
  are
• 32:14
  having
• 32:15
  people
• 32:15
  that
• 32:16
  has
• 32:16
  all
• 32:16
  the
• 32:17
  money
• 32:17
  to
• 32:17
  put
• 32:17
  a
• 32:18
  song
• 32:18
  every
• 32:18
  15
• 32:19
  days.
• 32:19
  And
• 32:20
  most
• 32:20
  of
• 32:20
  the
• 32:20
  music
• 32:21
  right
• 32:21
  now
• 32:21
  is
• 32:22
  like
• 32:22
  garbage.
• 32:23
  And
• 32:23
  I'm
• 32:24
  sorry,
• 32:24
  it's
• 32:24
  like
• 32:24
  you
• 32:25
  just
• 32:25
  listen
• 32:25
  to
• 32:26
  that
• 32:26
  song,
• 32:26
  it's
• 32:26
  a
• 32:26
  hit
• 32:27
  for
• 32:27
  one
• 32:27
  month
• 32:28
  and
• 32:28
  then
• 32:28
  to
• 32:29
  the
• 32:29
  garbage.
• 32:30
  Nothing
• 32:30
  like
• 32:31
  80,
• 32:32
  70s,
• 32:32
  90s
• 32:33
  when
• 32:33
  you
• 32:33
  listen
• 32:34
  to
• 32:34
  the
• 32:34
  song
• 32:35
  even
• 32:35
  now.
• 32:36
  Yeah.
• 32:36
  We
• 32:36
  don't
• 32:36
  have
• 32:37
  timeless
• 32:37
  classics
• 32:37
  anymore.
• 32:38
  And
• 32:38
  it's
• 32:38
  unfortunate.
• 32:39
  So
• 32:40
  that's
• 32:41
  my
• 32:41
  point.
• 32:41
  And
• 32:42
  you
• 32:42
  know,
• 32:42
  it's
• 32:43
  like
• 32:44
  it's
• 32:44
  not
• 32:44
  easy
• 32:45
  to
• 32:45
  survive
• 32:46
  and
• 32:47
  pay
• 32:47
  and
• 32:47
  do
• 32:48
  music.
• 32:49
  As
• 32:49
  an
• 32:49
  actress,
• 32:50
  I
• 32:50
  would
• 32:50
  say,
• 32:51
  like,
• 32:51
  it
• 32:51
  was
• 32:52
  amazing.
• 32:52
  I
• 32:52
  always
• 32:53
  received
• 32:53
  money.
• 32:54
  Yeah.
• 32:55
  As
• 32:56
  a
• 32:56
  singer,
• 32:56
  I
• 32:56
  would
• 32:57
  say,
• 32:57
  you
• 32:57
  know
• 32:57
  what?
• 32:58
  Where
• 32:58
  is
• 32:58
  my
• 32:58
  money?
• 32:59
  I
• 32:59
  have
• 32:59
  been
• 32:59
  invested
• 33:00
  in
• 33:00
  this.
• 33:01
  So
• 33:02
  it's
• 33:02
  not.
• 33:02
  Not
• 33:02
  easy.
• 33:03
  I
• 33:03
  would
• 33:03
  say,
• 33:04
  and
• 33:04
  I
• 33:04
  hope
• 33:04
  is
• 33:05
  not
• 33:05
  impossible,
• 33:06
  but
• 33:06
  we
• 33:07
  have
• 33:07
  so
• 33:08
  much
• 33:08
  to
• 33:08
  do
• 33:09
  to.
• 33:10
  To
• 33:10
  put
• 33:11
  again,
• 33:12
  some
• 33:12
  good
• 33:13
  products.
• 33:14
  More
• 33:14
  than
• 33:15
  put
• 33:15
  products.
• 33:16
  And
• 33:16
  more
• 33:16
  and
• 33:16
  more
• 33:16
  and
• 33:17
  more.
• 33:17
  We
• 33:17
  had
• 33:17
  a
• 33:17
  music
• 33:18
  historian
• 33:18
  on
• 33:18
  the
• 33:18
  show.
• 33:19
  I
• 33:19
  call
• 33:19
  him
• 33:19
  a
• 33:19
  music
• 33:19
  historian,
• 33:20
  Alan
• 33:20
  Cross,
• 33:21
  that
• 33:21
  said
• 33:22
  exactly
• 33:22
  that.
• 33:22
  He
• 33:22
  said,
• 33:23
  look
• 33:23
  at
• 33:23
  the
• 33:23
  top
• 33:24
  10
• 33:24
  Billboard
• 33:24
  artists
• 33:25
  of
• 33:25
  last
• 33:25
  year.
• 33:25
  All
• 33:26
  the
• 33:26
  Grammy
• 33:26
  winners
• 33:26
  of
• 33:26
  last
• 33:27
  year.
• 33:27
  You
• 33:27
  don't
• 33:28
  remember
• 33:28
  half
• 33:28
  of
• 33:28
  them.
• 33:29
  Right.
• 33:29
  More
• 33:29
  than
• 33:30
  half.
• 33:30
  They
• 33:30
  had
• 33:30
  one
• 33:30
  hit
• 33:31
  and
• 33:31
  they're
• 33:31
  gone.
• 33:31
  And
• 33:32
  that
• 33:32
  used
• 33:32
  to
• 33:32
  be
• 33:33
  something
• 33:33
  that
• 33:34
  we
• 33:34
  would
• 33:34
  call
• 33:34
  one
• 33:35
  hit
• 33:35
  wonder.
• 33:35
  Yeah.
• 33:35
  Now
• 33:36
  it's
• 33:36
  called
• 33:36
  having
• 33:37
  a
• 33:37
  career.
• 33:37
  Yeah.
• 33:38
  Right.
• 33:38
  Which
• 33:38
  means
• 33:39
  that.
• 33:39
  And
• 33:39
  then
• 33:40
  whatever
• 33:40
  comes
• 33:40
  next,
• 33:41
  only
• 33:41
  fans.
• 33:42
  I
• 33:42
  don't
• 33:42
  know
• 33:42
  what's
• 33:42
  next
• 33:43
  in.
• 33:43
  In
• 33:43
  that
• 33:43
  situation.
• 33:44
  But
• 33:45
  it's
• 33:45
  true.
• 33:46
  There's
• 33:46
  less
• 33:46
  longevity.
• 33:47
  And
• 33:47
  part
• 33:48
  of
• 33:48
  it
• 33:48
  is
• 33:48
  that
• 33:48
  people
• 33:48
  just
• 33:48
  keep
• 33:49
  on
• 33:49
  scrolling.
• 33:49
  No
• 33:49
  one's
• 33:50
  going
• 33:50
  to
• 33:50
  listen
• 33:50
  to.
• 33:50
  I
• 33:50
  miss
• 33:51
  albums.
• 33:51
  Yeah.
• 33:52
  I
• 33:52
  miss
• 33:53
  them.
• 33:53
  And
• 33:53
  now
• 33:53
  I
• 33:54
  find
• 33:54
  that
• 33:54
  not
• 33:54
  only
• 33:55
  is
• 33:55
  my
• 33:56
  attention
• 33:56
  span
• 33:56
  lower
• 33:57
  and
• 33:57
  it's
• 33:57
  harder
• 33:57
  for
• 33:57
  me
• 33:57
  to
• 33:57
  listen
• 33:58
  to
• 33:58
  an
• 33:58
  album.
• 33:58
  When
• 33:58
  I
• 33:59
  do
• 33:59
  listen
• 33:59
  to
• 33:59
  an
• 33:59
  album,
• 33:59
  I
• 33:59
  feel
• 34:00
  like
• 34:00
  the
• 34:00
  person
• 34:00
  that
• 34:00
  made
• 34:00
  it
• 34:01
  no
• 34:01
  longer
• 34:01
  made
• 34:01
  it
• 34:01
  as
• 34:02
  an
• 34:02
  album.
• 34:02
  Yeah.
• 34:03
  It
• 34:03
  just
• 34:03
  feels
• 34:03
  like
• 34:03
  here's
• 34:04
  10
• 34:04
  songs.
• 34:05
  But
• 34:05
  you
• 34:05
  have
• 34:05
  to
• 34:06
  consider
• 34:06
  the
• 34:06
  flow.
• 34:07
  Like
• 34:07
  we
• 34:07
  used
• 34:07
  to
• 34:07
  have
• 34:08
  charts
• 34:08
  when
• 34:08
  we
• 34:08
  had
• 34:09
  all
• 34:09
  of
• 34:09
  our
• 34:09
  songs
• 34:09
  written
• 34:10
  and
• 34:10
  we
• 34:10
  tried
• 34:10
  to
• 34:10
  put
• 34:10
  them
• 34:10
  on
• 34:11
  an
• 34:11
  album.
• 34:11
  Our
• 34:11
  band
• 34:12
  or
• 34:12
  anybody
• 34:12
  else
• 34:12
  that
• 34:12
  comes
• 34:13
  in
• 34:13
  here
• 34:13
  and
• 34:13
  we
• 34:13
  actually
• 34:14
  match.
• 34:15
  Yeah.
• 34:15
  Each
• 34:16
  member
• 34:16
  writes
• 34:16
  their
• 34:16
  own
• 34:16
  order
• 34:17
  and
• 34:17
  then
• 34:17
  we
• 34:17
  compare
• 34:18
  and
• 34:18
  sometimes
• 34:18
  it's
• 34:18
  the
• 34:18
  same,
• 34:19
  which
• 34:19
  is
• 34:19
  cool
• 34:20
  to
• 34:20
  be
• 34:20
  like
• 34:20
  this
• 34:20
  flows
• 34:21
  into
• 34:21
  this.
• 34:21
  And
• 34:21
  sometimes
• 34:22
  you
• 34:22
  have
• 34:22
  to
• 34:22
  talk
• 34:22
  about.
• 34:22
  Yeah,
• 34:23
  but
• 34:23
  the
• 34:23
  experience
• 34:23
  would
• 34:23
  be
• 34:24
  different
• 34:24
  if
• 34:24
  this
• 34:24
  song
• 34:24
  came
• 34:25
  after
• 34:25
  this
• 34:25
  song
• 34:25
  and
• 34:25
  it's
• 34:26
  part
• 34:26
  of
• 34:26
  it.
• 34:26
  Yeah.
• 34:27
  You
• 34:27
  know,
• 34:27
  you
• 34:28
  ever.
• 34:28
  With
• 34:29
  songs
• 34:29
  that
• 34:29
  you've
• 34:29
  listened
• 34:29
  to
• 34:30
  back
• 34:30
  in
• 34:30
  the
• 34:30
  album
• 34:30
  days,
• 34:30
  when
• 34:31
  that
• 34:31
  song
• 34:31
  is
• 34:31
  over
• 34:31
  in
• 34:32
  your
• 34:32
  mind
• 34:33
  playing
• 34:33
  the
• 34:33
  next
• 34:33
  song,
• 34:35
  it's.
• 34:35
  It's
• 34:35
  part
• 34:36
  of
• 34:36
  the
• 34:36
  experience.
• 34:36
  So
• 34:36
  that's
• 34:37
  too
• 34:37
  bad.
• 34:37
  But
• 34:37
  at
• 34:37
  the
• 34:37
  same
• 34:38
  time,
• 34:39
  people
• 34:39
  are
• 34:39
  getting
• 34:40
  better
• 34:40
  with
• 34:40
  the
• 34:40
  long
• 34:41
  format
• 34:41
  podcasts
• 34:42
  like
• 34:42
  this.
• 34:43
  I
• 34:43
  don't
• 34:44
  think
• 34:44
  that
• 34:44
  people
• 34:45
  had
• 34:45
  the
• 34:45
  patience
• 34:46
  before
• 34:46
  to
• 34:46
  listen
• 34:47
  to
• 34:47
  just
• 34:47
  people
• 34:48
  talking
• 34:48
  for
• 34:48
  40
• 34:49
  minutes
• 34:49
  and.
• 34:50
  No,
• 34:50
  they
• 34:50
  would.
• 34:50
  They
• 34:51
  would
• 34:51
  tune
• 34:51
  into
• 34:51
  talk
• 34:52
  radio
• 34:52
  and
• 34:52
  they'd
• 34:52
  be
• 34:53
  weird
• 34:53
  older
• 34:53
  people.
• 34:53
  Right,
• 34:54
  Right.
• 34:55
  So
• 34:55
  even
• 34:55
  like
• 34:56
  Rogan's
• 34:56
  format,
• 34:57
  like
• 34:57
  you'd
• 34:57
  never
• 34:57
  think
• 34:57
  people
• 34:58
  be.
• 34:58
  And
• 34:58
  he's
• 34:59
  the
• 34:59
  most
• 34:59
  popular.
• 35:00
  He's
• 35:00
  like
• 35:00
  two,
• 35:01
  three
• 35:01
  hour
• 35:01
  long
• 35:02
  formats
• 35:02
  of
• 35:02
  just
• 35:03
  long
• 35:03
  unscripted
• 35:04
  stuff
• 35:05
  and
• 35:05
  he
• 35:05
  gets
• 35:06
  hundreds
• 35:06
  of
• 35:06
  millions
• 35:07
  of
• 35:07
  downloads
• 35:07
  a
• 35:07
  month.
• 35:08
  So
• 35:09
  how
• 35:09
  do
• 35:09
  you
• 35:09
  get
• 35:09
  someone
• 35:09
  to
• 35:10
  listen
• 35:10
  to
• 35:10
  your
• 35:10
  album
• 35:11
  these
• 35:11
  days?
• 35:11
  It's
• 35:12
  a
• 35:12
  good
• 35:12
  question.
• 35:13
  I
• 35:13
  don't
• 35:13
  know
• 35:14
  because
• 35:14
  we
• 35:15
  don't
• 35:15
  have
• 35:15
  people
• 35:15
  living
• 35:16
  the
• 35:16
  present
• 35:17
  and
• 35:17
  even
• 35:18
  in
• 35:18
  videos
• 35:19
  they.
• 35:20
  We
• 35:20
  know
• 35:20
  like
• 35:21
  in
• 35:21
  a.
• 35:21
  In
• 35:21
  a
• 35:22
  video
• 35:22
  you
• 35:22
  should
• 35:23
  move
• 35:24
  everything.
• 35:25
  Yeah.
• 35:26
  Because
• 35:26
  we
• 35:26
  are
• 35:27
  seeing
• 35:27
  that
• 35:27
  in
• 35:27
  Hollywood.
• 35:28
  So
• 35:29
  more
• 35:29
  quiet
• 35:30
  you
• 35:30
  are,
• 35:31
  less
• 35:31
  possibilities
• 35:32
  you
• 35:32
  have.
• 35:32
  And
• 35:33
  for
• 35:33
  that
• 35:33
  the
• 35:34
  first,
• 35:35
  even
• 35:35
  not
• 35:36
  30
• 35:36
  seconds
• 35:36
  anymore,
• 35:37
  it's
• 35:37
  like
• 35:38
  five
• 35:38
  seconds.
• 35:39
  You
• 35:39
  need
• 35:39
  to
• 35:39
  sell
• 35:40
  your
• 35:40
  product.
• 35:41
  That's
• 35:41
  impossible.
• 35:42
  Yeah.
• 35:42
  That
• 35:44
  effect
• 35:44
  of
• 35:45
  how
• 35:45
  songs
• 35:46
  are
• 35:46
  written
• 35:46
  and
• 35:46
  that
• 35:46
  you
• 35:47
  have
• 35:47
  to
• 35:47
  get
• 35:47
  to
• 35:47
  the
• 35:48
  interesting
• 35:48
  part
• 35:48
  immediately
• 35:49
  kills
• 35:50
  the
• 35:50
  vibe
• 35:50
  a
• 35:50
  little.
• 35:50
  Because
• 35:51
  some
• 35:51
  songs
• 35:52
  you
• 35:52
  want
• 35:52
  to
• 35:52
  like,
• 35:53
  you
• 35:53
  know,
• 35:53
  tool
• 35:54
  has
• 35:54
  songs
• 35:54
  that
• 35:55
  take
• 35:55
  like
• 35:55
  two
• 35:55
  minutes
• 35:55
  to
• 35:56
  rev
• 35:56
  up
• 35:56
  and
• 35:57
  that's
• 35:57
  part
• 35:57
  of.
• 35:58
  Of
• 35:58
  the
• 35:58
  feel
• 35:59
  you.
• 35:59
  Yeah.
• 36:00
  Cold
• 36:00
  Little
• 36:00
  Heart
• 36:00
  by
• 36:01
  Michael
• 36:01
  Kiwanuka.
• 36:02
  The.
• 36:02
  The
• 36:03
  intro
• 36:03
  is
• 36:03
  like
• 36:03
  two
• 36:03
  and
• 36:04
  a
• 36:04
  half
• 36:04
  minutes
• 36:04
  of
• 36:05
  just
• 36:05
  violin.
• 36:06
  And
• 36:06
  so
• 36:07
  for
• 36:08
  like
• 36:08
  a
• 36:08
  long
• 36:08
  time
• 36:09
  it's
• 36:09
  such
• 36:09
  a
• 36:09
  Long
• 36:10
  buildup.
• 36:11
  Yeah.
• 36:11
  It
• 36:11
  pays
• 36:12
  off
• 36:12
  in
• 36:12
  the
• 36:12
  end
• 36:12
  if
• 36:13
  you're
• 36:13
  patient
• 36:13
  and
• 36:13
  you
• 36:14
  listen
• 36:14
  to
• 36:14
  that
• 36:14
  whole
• 36:14
  intro
• 36:15
  when
• 36:15
  the
• 36:15
  song
• 36:15
  comes
• 36:15
  in,
• 36:16
  you're
• 36:16
  like
• 36:16
  your
• 36:16
  hair
• 36:17
  stand
• 36:17
  up,
• 36:18
  you
• 36:18
  know,
• 36:18
  it's
• 36:18
  beautiful.
• 36:19
  But
• 36:19
  that's
• 36:19
  a
• 36:20
  good
• 36:20
  point.
• 36:20
  But
• 36:20
  I
• 36:21
  would
• 36:21
  say
• 36:21
  I
• 36:22
  have
• 36:22
  a
• 36:22
  hope
• 36:24
  that
• 36:24
  with
• 36:24
  this
• 36:24
  pandemic
• 36:26
  we
• 36:26
  have
• 36:26
  learned
• 36:27
  something.
• 36:27
  And
• 36:28
  I
• 36:28
  think
• 36:28
  part
• 36:28
  of
• 36:29
  that
• 36:29
  is
• 36:29
  going
• 36:30
  a
• 36:30
  little
• 36:30
  to
• 36:31
  the
• 36:31
  roots.
• 36:31
  You
• 36:32
  know
• 36:32
  that
• 36:32
  roots.
• 36:33
  I
• 36:33
  mean,
• 36:33
  living
• 36:34
  in
• 36:34
  the
• 36:34
  present.
• 36:35
  Sometimes
• 36:36
  don't
• 36:36
  do
• 36:37
  anything.
• 36:37
  Just
• 36:38
  be.
• 36:39
  Be.
• 36:39
  Yeah.
• 36:40
  Just
• 36:40
  breathe.
• 36:41
  Yeah.
• 36:42
  Like
• 36:42
  we
• 36:43
  are
• 36:43
  so
• 36:43
  contaminated
• 36:44
  by
• 36:45
  funds,
• 36:46
  publicity,
• 36:47
  you
• 36:47
  know,
• 36:47
  like
• 36:48
  everything.
• 36:49
  And
• 36:50
  we
• 36:50
  are
• 36:50
  not
• 36:50
  taking
• 36:50
  the
• 36:51
  time.
• 36:52
  It's
• 36:52
  like
• 36:53
  we
• 36:53
  don't
• 36:54
  think
• 36:54
  even
• 36:55
  we
• 36:55
  deserve
• 36:55
  the
• 36:56
  time
• 36:56
  to
• 36:56
  listen
• 36:57
  to
• 36:57
  a
• 36:57
  podcast
• 36:58
  to
• 36:58
  ours.
• 36:59
  Because
• 37:00
  you
• 37:00
  are
• 37:00
  losing
• 37:00
  your
• 37:01
  life
• 37:01
  and
• 37:02
  no,
• 37:02
  you
• 37:02
  are
• 37:02
  not
• 37:02
  losing
• 37:03
  anything.
• 37:03
  You
• 37:04
  are
• 37:04
  earning
• 37:05
  something.
• 37:06
  You
• 37:06
  know,
• 37:06
  you
• 37:06
  are
• 37:06
  giving
• 37:07
  something
• 37:07
  to
• 37:08
  yourself.
• 37:08
  But
• 37:09
  who
• 37:09
  are
• 37:09
  thinking
• 37:10
  like
• 37:10
  that?
• 37:10
  Not
• 37:11
  too
• 37:11
  many.
• 37:11
  Yeah,
• 37:12
  there
• 37:12
  is.
• 37:13
  Sorry.
• 37:13
  Please,
• 37:14
  please,
• 37:15
  please.
• 37:15
  Okay.
• 37:17
  I
• 37:17
  love
• 37:17
  the
• 37:17
  Canadian
• 37:18
  off.
• 37:21
  I
• 37:21
  gonna
• 37:22
  just
• 37:22
  to
• 37:22
  piggyback
• 37:23
  on
• 37:23
  what
• 37:23
  you
• 37:23
  said,
• 37:23
  I
• 37:23
  was
• 37:23
  just
• 37:23
  gonna
• 37:23
  say
• 37:24
  that
• 37:24
  if
• 37:24
  you
• 37:24
  don't
• 37:25
  give
• 37:25
  to
• 37:25
  yourself,
• 37:26
  if
• 37:26
  you
• 37:26
  don't
• 37:26
  treat
• 37:27
  yourself
• 37:27
  right
• 37:27
  and
• 37:28
  develop
• 37:28
  and,
• 37:28
  you
• 37:29
  know,
• 37:29
  self
• 37:29
  love
• 37:30
  and
• 37:30
  so
• 37:31
  into
• 37:31
  your
• 37:31
  own
• 37:32
  future
• 37:32
  and
• 37:33
  your
• 37:33
  own
• 37:33
  being,
• 37:34
  then
• 37:34
  you
• 37:35
  have
• 37:35
  nothing
• 37:35
  to
• 37:35
  offer
• 37:35
  anyone
• 37:36
  else,
• 37:36
  really.
• 37:36
  Right.
• 37:37
  So
• 37:37
  that's
• 37:37
  always
• 37:37
  my
• 37:38
  thing.
• 37:38
  We
• 37:38
  can
• 37:39
  be
• 37:39
  everybody
• 37:40
  for
• 37:40
  everyone
• 37:40
  else.
• 37:41
  But
• 37:41
  at
• 37:41
  the
• 37:42
  end,
• 37:42
  if
• 37:42
  you're
• 37:42
  not
• 37:43
  being
• 37:43
  true
• 37:43
  to
• 37:43
  yourself,
• 37:44
  then
• 37:44
  what
• 37:45
  you're
• 37:45
  giving
• 37:45
  is
• 37:45
  not
• 37:45
  real.
• 37:46
  And
• 37:46
  what
• 37:46
  you're
• 37:46
  giving
• 37:47
  isn't
• 37:47
  really
• 37:48
  gonna
• 37:48
  be
• 37:48
  as
• 37:48
  beneficial
• 37:49
  as
• 37:49
  what
• 37:49
  it
• 37:49
  could
• 37:49
  have
• 37:49
  been
• 37:50
  had
• 37:50
  you
• 37:50
  taken
• 37:50
  the
• 37:51
  time
• 37:51
  for
• 37:51
  yourself.
• 37:52
  Yeah,
• 37:52
  that's
• 37:53
  beautiful.
• 37:53
  Yeah.
• 37:54
  Well,
• 37:55
  I
• 37:55
  have
• 37:55
  an
• 37:55
  idea.
• 37:56
  Sure
• 37:57
  this
• 37:58
  is
• 37:58
  gonna
• 37:58
  be
• 37:58
  good?
• 37:59
  Well,
• 37:59
  no,
• 37:59
  because
• 37:59
  we're
• 38:00
  talking
• 38:00
  about
• 38:00
  artists
• 38:01
  that
• 38:01
  have
• 38:01
  to
• 38:02
  write
• 38:02
  songs
• 38:03
  that
• 38:03
  start
• 38:03
  quicker.
• 38:03
  And
• 38:04
  I
• 38:04
  would
• 38:04
  argue
• 38:04
  that
• 38:05
  a
• 38:05
  big
• 38:05
  part
• 38:05
  of
• 38:05
  that
• 38:06
  is
• 38:06
  economics.
• 38:07
  Because
• 38:07
  when
• 38:08
  Spotify
• 38:09
  pays
• 38:09
  0.000014
• 38:13
  cents
• 38:14
  per
• 38:15
  song.
• 38:15
  Yeah,
• 38:16
  that's.
• 38:17
  See,
• 38:17
  the
• 38:18
  thing
• 38:18
  is,
• 38:18
  I
• 38:18
  don't
• 38:18
  want
• 38:18
  to
• 38:18
  say
• 38:19
  actual
• 38:19
  numbers
• 38:19
  because
• 38:20
  whenever
• 38:20
  you're
• 38:20
  listening
• 38:21
  to
• 38:21
  this,
• 38:21
  the
• 38:21
  numbers
• 38:21
  are
• 38:21
  going
• 38:21
  to
• 38:21
  change.
• 38:22
  But
• 38:22
  as
• 38:23
  it
• 38:23
  stands
• 38:23
  right
• 38:23
  now,
• 38:23
  there
• 38:24
  are
• 38:24
  certain
• 38:24
  platforms
• 38:25
  that
• 38:25
  pay
• 38:26
  essentially
• 38:27
  nothing.
• 38:27
  It
• 38:27
  really
• 38:28
  is
• 38:28
  nothing.
• 38:28
  I've
• 38:29
  received
• 38:29
  Spotify
• 38:29
  checks
• 38:30
  for
• 38:30
  less
• 38:30
  than
• 38:30
  8
• 38:30
  cents.
• 38:31
  Are
• 38:31
  you
• 38:32
  kidding
• 38:32
  me?
• 38:32
  Leave
• 38:32
  me
• 38:32
  alone.
• 38:34
  But
• 38:34
  there
• 38:35
  are
• 38:35
  other
• 38:35
  platforms
• 38:36
  that
• 38:36
  pay
• 38:36
  a
• 38:37
  penny
• 38:37
  per
• 38:37
  play,
• 38:38
  which
• 38:38
  is
• 38:38
  still
• 38:39
  very
• 38:39
  little,
• 38:39
  but
• 38:40
  it's
• 38:41
  like
• 38:41
  30
• 38:42
  or
• 38:42
  100
• 38:42
  times
• 38:43
  more.
• 38:44
  So
• 38:44
  I
• 38:44
  would
• 38:45
  suggest
• 38:45
  voting
• 38:46
  with
• 38:46
  your
• 38:46
  wallet,
• 38:47
  looking
• 38:47
  at
• 38:47
  which
• 38:47
  plat
• 38:48
  platform
• 38:48
  pays
• 38:49
  the
• 38:49
  artists
• 38:50
  more
• 38:50
  and
• 38:50
  switching
• 38:51
  to
• 38:51
  that
• 38:51
  one.
• 38:51
  Because
• 38:52
  the
• 38:52
  more
• 38:53
  we.
• 38:53
  We
• 38:54
  pay
• 38:54
  artists
• 38:55
  and
• 38:55
  help
• 38:55
  them
• 38:55
  pay
• 38:55
  their
• 38:56
  rent
• 38:56
  and
• 38:56
  live,
• 38:57
  the
• 38:58
  more
• 38:58
  Comfortable
• 38:58
  they're
• 38:58
  going
• 38:59
  to
• 38:59
  feel
• 38:59
  making
• 38:59
  the
• 38:59
  music
• 39:00
  that
• 39:00
  they
• 39:00
  want
• 39:00
  to
• 39:00
  make
• 39:00
  and
• 39:01
  not
• 39:01
  music
• 39:01
  that
• 39:02
  economically
• 39:02
  makes
• 39:03
  sense.
• 39:03
  Right.
• 39:03
  And
• 39:04
  that's
• 39:04
  what's
• 39:04
  happened
• 39:05
  is
• 39:05
  people
• 39:05
  just
• 39:06
  make
• 39:06
  money
• 39:06
  or
• 39:06
  make
• 39:07
  music
• 39:08
  and
• 39:08
  make
• 39:08
  lots
• 39:09
  of
• 39:09
  it
• 39:09
  and
• 39:10
  dilute
• 39:10
  it
• 39:10
  because,
• 39:11
  like,
• 39:11
  even,
• 39:11
  like,
• 39:11
  there's
• 39:12
  some
• 39:12
  art.
• 39:12
  I
• 39:12
  don't
• 39:12
  want
• 39:12
  to
• 39:12
  say
• 39:12
  names,
• 39:13
  but
• 39:13
  some
• 39:13
  artists
• 39:14
  now
• 39:14
  in
• 39:14
  their.
• 39:15
  Their
• 39:15
  releases,
• 39:15
  they're
• 39:16
  putting
• 39:16
  out
• 39:16
  like
• 39:16
  20,
• 39:17
  30
• 39:17
  songs.
• 39:18
  You're
• 39:18
  like,
• 39:18
  why
• 39:18
  are
• 39:18
  you
• 39:18
  putting
• 39:19
  this
• 39:19
  many?
• 39:19
  But
• 39:19
  it's
• 39:20
  a
• 39:20
  numbers
• 39:20
  game
• 39:20
  to
• 39:20
  them,
• 39:21
  and
• 39:21
  it's
• 39:21
  sad
• 39:21
  that
• 39:22
  it's
• 39:22
  come
• 39:22
  to
• 39:22
  that.
• 39:22
  Yeah.
• 39:23
  If
• 39:23
  you
• 39:23
  want
• 39:23
  to
• 39:23
  help,
• 39:24
  do
• 39:25
  a
• 39:25
  tally.
• 39:25
  Whenever
• 39:26
  it
• 39:26
  is
• 39:26
  you're
• 39:26
  listening
• 39:26
  to
• 39:26
  this,
• 39:27
  see
• 39:27
  which
• 39:27
  streaming
• 39:28
  service
• 39:28
  that
• 39:28
  you
• 39:28
  can
• 39:29
  tolerate.
• 39:29
  I
• 39:29
  think
• 39:29
  we
• 39:29
  stand
• 39:30
  for
• 39:30
  them.
• 39:30
  Could
• 39:31
  be
• 39:31
  titled
• 39:32
  Apple
• 39:32
  is
• 39:32
  actually
• 39:32
  pretty.
• 39:33
  Good
• 39:33
  right
• 39:33
  now,
• 39:33
  really.
• 39:34
  But
• 39:34
  that
• 39:34
  might
• 39:35
  change
• 39:35
  and
• 39:35
  go
• 39:35
  for
• 39:36
  that
• 39:36
  one.
• 39:36
  And
• 39:36
  if
• 39:36
  you
• 39:36
  really
• 39:36
  want
• 39:36
  to
• 39:37
  help.
• 39:37
  We
• 39:37
  talked
• 39:37
  about
• 39:37
  this
• 39:37
  too.
• 39:38
  Buy
• 39:38
  an
• 39:38
  album
• 39:38
  every
• 39:38
  now
• 39:39
  and
• 39:39
  then,
• 39:39
  go
• 39:39
  on
• 39:39
  itunes,
• 39:40
  go
• 39:40
  on
• 39:40
  bandcamp.
• 39:41
  Even
• 39:41
  if
• 39:41
  you
• 39:41
  can
• 39:42
  stream
• 39:42
  it,
• 39:42
  just.
• 39:42
  Just
• 39:42
  buy
• 39:42
  it.
• 39:43
  Just
• 39:43
  help
• 39:43
  them
• 39:43
  out.
• 39:44
  And
• 39:45
  if
• 39:45
  enough
• 39:46
  of
• 39:46
  us
• 39:46
  do
• 39:46
  that,
• 39:46
  we'll
• 39:46
  notice
• 39:47
  music
• 39:47
  becoming
• 39:48
  more
• 39:48
  for
• 39:49
  the
• 39:49
  music
• 39:49
  than
• 39:49
  anything
• 39:50
  else.
• 39:50
  That's
• 39:50
  a
• 39:50
  great
• 39:51
  point.
• 39:51
  Yeah.
• 39:51
  Let's
• 39:52
  do
• 39:52
  a
• 39:52
  social
• 39:52
  experiment
• 39:53
  here.
• 39:53
  No,
• 39:53
  that's
• 39:54
  amazing.
• 39:55
  But
• 39:55
  I
• 39:55
  think
• 39:56
  there
• 39:56
  are
• 39:56
  so
• 39:57
  many
• 39:57
  things
• 39:57
  around.
• 39:58
  And
• 39:59
  for
• 39:59
  example,
• 39:59
  when
• 40:00
  you
• 40:00
  start
• 40:00
  in
• 40:01
  a
• 40:01
  label,
• 40:02
  what
• 40:02
  happened
• 40:02
  there?
• 40:02
  Do
• 40:03
  you
• 40:03
  have
• 40:03
  the
• 40:03
  freedom
• 40:04
  to
• 40:04
  be
• 40:04
  yourself?
• 40:05
  And
• 40:06
  I
• 40:06
  would
• 40:06
  like
• 40:07
  to
• 40:08
  finish
• 40:08
  your
• 40:09
  thought
• 40:09
  that.
• 40:09
  I
• 40:10
  love
• 40:10
  it.
• 40:11
  Please
• 40:11
  do,
• 40:11
  Anthony.
• 40:12
  I
• 40:12
  would
• 40:13
  say,
• 40:13
  you
• 40:13
  know,
• 40:14
  there
• 40:14
  is
• 40:15
  something
• 40:15
  that
• 40:15
  I
• 40:16
  always
• 40:16
  try
• 40:16
  to
• 40:17
  keep
• 40:18
  with
• 40:18
  myself
• 40:18
  and
• 40:19
  is
• 40:19
  be
• 40:19
  loyal
• 40:20
  to
• 40:20
  yourself.
• 40:21
  There
• 40:22
  is
• 40:22
  no
• 40:22
  price
• 40:23
  that
• 40:23
  can
• 40:24
  compensate
• 40:24
  that.
• 40:25
  And
• 40:25
  that
• 40:25
  happened
• 40:26
  with,
• 40:26
  you
• 40:27
  know,
• 40:27
  we
• 40:27
  are
• 40:27
  seeing
• 40:28
  the
• 40:28
  same
• 40:28
  artist
• 40:29
  with
• 40:29
  the
• 40:30
  same
• 40:30
  labels
• 40:31
  doing
• 40:31
  the
• 40:31
  same
• 40:32
  thing.
• 40:32
  Yeah.
• 40:32
  With
• 40:33
  the
• 40:33
  same.
• 40:35
  You
• 40:35
  know,
• 40:37
  I
• 40:37
  don't
• 40:38
  know
• 40:38
  how
• 40:38
  to
• 40:38
  say
• 40:38
  this.
• 40:39
  Like,
• 40:39
  the
• 40:40
  fixings
• 40:40
  around,
• 40:41
  the
• 40:41
  voices,
• 40:42
  the
• 40:42
  melodies,
• 40:43
  everything
• 40:44
  the
• 40:44
  same.
• 40:45
  It's
• 40:46
  so
• 40:46
  difficult
• 40:47
  even
• 40:48
  recognize
• 40:49
  who
• 40:49
  artist
• 40:50
  is
• 40:52
  in
• 40:53
  the
• 40:53
  same
• 40:53
  type
• 40:54
  of
• 40:54
  music.
• 40:55
  So
• 40:56
  I
• 40:56
  think
• 40:57
  it
• 40:57
  is
• 40:58
  kind
• 40:58
  of
• 40:58
  like
• 40:58
  a
• 40:59
  revolution
• 41:00
  by
• 41:00
  us,
• 41:01
  by
• 41:01
  the
• 41:03
  singers,
• 41:03
  by
• 41:04
  the
• 41:04
  musicians
• 41:04
  saying,
• 41:05
  like,
• 41:05
  you
• 41:05
  know,
• 41:05
  yes,
• 41:06
  we
• 41:06
  need
• 41:06
  to
• 41:06
  live,
• 41:07
  but
• 41:08
  also
• 41:08
  we
• 41:08
  need
• 41:08
  to.
• 41:08
  To
• 41:09
  be
• 41:09
  happy.
• 41:09
  And
• 41:10
  even
• 41:10
  if
• 41:10
  we
• 41:11
  want
• 41:11
  to
• 41:11
  follow
• 41:12
  the
• 41:12
  system,
• 41:13
  the
• 41:13
  system
• 41:14
  is
• 41:15
  not
• 41:15
  putting
• 41:15
  us
• 41:15
  there
• 41:16
  yet.
• 41:17
  Right.
• 41:17
  Unless
• 41:18
  you.
• 41:19
  You
• 41:20
  are.
• 41:20
  Let's
• 41:21
  one
• 41:21
  say
• 41:21
  names,
• 41:22
  but
• 41:22
  you
• 41:23
  are.
• 41:23
  Who
• 41:23
  knows?
• 41:24
  And.
• 41:25
  And
• 41:25
  then
• 41:26
  you
• 41:26
  need
• 41:26
  to
• 41:26
  follow
• 41:26
  the
• 41:27
  same
• 41:27
  system
• 41:28
  of
• 41:28
  dressing
• 41:28
  and
• 41:29
  do
• 41:29
  the
• 41:29
  same
• 41:29
  videos.
• 41:30
  So
• 41:30
  I
• 41:31
  think
• 41:31
  the
• 41:31
  point
• 41:31
  is
• 41:32
  try
• 41:32
  to
• 41:32
  be
• 41:33
  loyal
• 41:33
  to
• 41:34
  yourself
• 41:35
  and.
• 41:35
  And
• 41:36
  just
• 41:37
  find
• 41:38
  your
• 41:38
  own
• 41:39
  niche.
• 41:39
  There
• 41:40
  is
• 41:40
  people
• 41:40
  for
• 41:41
  everything
• 41:41
  and
• 41:42
  for
• 41:42
  everyone.
• 41:43
  Like
• 41:43
  Master
• 41:43
  Ace.
• 41:44
  Right?
• 41:45
  That
• 41:45
  guy
• 41:46
  from
• 41:46
  here.
• 41:47
  From
• 41:47
  Toronto.
• 41:48
  No,
• 41:48
  New
• 41:48
  York.
• 41:49
  Sorry,
• 41:49
  New
• 41:50
  York.
• 41:52
  You
• 41:52
  know,
• 41:52
  like
• 41:53
  old
• 41:53
  guys
• 41:54
  that
• 41:54
  have
• 41:55
  been
• 41:55
  doing
• 41:55
  the
• 41:56
  best.
• 41:56
  People
• 41:57
  respect
• 41:57
  them,
• 41:58
  follow
• 41:58
  them.
• 41:59
  And
• 41:59
  they
• 42:00
  are
• 42:00
  not
• 42:01
  Shakira.
• 42:02
  Not
• 42:02
  everyone
• 42:03
  knows
• 42:04
  about
• 42:04
  them,
• 42:05
  but
• 42:06
  they
• 42:06
  have
• 42:06
  their
• 42:07
  own
• 42:07
  followers.
• 42:08
  So
• 42:08
  that's
• 42:09
  my
• 42:09
  point,
• 42:09
  you
• 42:09
  know,
• 42:10
  like,
• 42:10
  when
• 42:10
  I
• 42:11
  decided
• 42:11
  to
• 42:11
  start
• 42:12
  my
• 42:12
  music,
• 42:13
  I
• 42:13
  knew
• 42:14
  that
• 42:14
  I
• 42:15
  don't
• 42:15
  know
• 42:15
  if
• 42:15
  I
• 42:15
  will
• 42:16
  get
• 42:16
  the
• 42:16
  same
• 42:17
  fame
• 42:17
  or
• 42:18
  recognition
• 42:19
  that
• 42:20
  I
• 42:20
  got
• 42:20
  in
• 42:20
  my
• 42:21
  acting,
• 42:21
  but
• 42:21
  I'm
• 42:22
  sure
• 42:23
  that
• 42:23
  I
• 42:23
  want
• 42:23
  to
• 42:24
  do
• 42:24
  with
• 42:24
  the
• 42:24
  music
• 42:24
  is
• 42:25
  give
• 42:26
  a
• 42:26
  message,
• 42:27
  express
• 42:27
  what
• 42:27
  I'm
• 42:28
  feeling.
• 42:29
  And
• 42:29
  I
• 42:30
  won't
• 42:30
  be
• 42:31
  fake
• 42:31
  on
• 42:32
  that.
• 42:32
  I
• 42:33
  can't
• 42:33
  because
• 42:34
  it's
• 42:34
  my
• 42:34
  own
• 42:34
  voice.
• 42:35
  It's
• 42:35
  my
• 42:35
  name.
• 42:35
  Right,
• 42:36
  right.
• 42:36
  And
• 42:37
  I
• 42:37
  think
• 42:37
  there's
• 42:38
  a
• 42:38
  lot
• 42:38
  to
• 42:38
  gain
• 42:39
  potentially
• 42:39
  with
• 42:39
  music.
• 42:40
  Trying
• 42:40
  to
• 42:40
  get
• 42:40
  the
• 42:41
  quick
• 42:41
  hit,
• 42:41
  making
• 42:41
  a
• 42:41
  lot
• 42:42
  of
• 42:42
  money.
• 42:42
  Yeah.
• 42:42
  But
• 42:43
  I
• 42:43
  think
• 42:43
  that
• 42:43
  there's
• 42:43
  a
• 42:43
  lot
• 42:43
  more
• 42:44
  to
• 42:44
  lose.
• 42:46
  Like,
• 42:46
  there's
• 42:46
  a
• 42:46
  high
• 42:47
  cost
• 42:47
  if
• 42:48
  you're
• 42:48
  selling
• 42:48
  yourself
• 42:49
  out.
• 42:49
  Yeah.
• 42:50
  So
• 42:50
  then
• 42:50
  it's
• 42:50
  like,
• 42:51
  what
• 42:51
  do
• 42:51
  you
• 42:51
  really
• 42:51
  want?
• 42:52
  Do
• 42:52
  you
• 42:52
  want
• 42:52
  to
• 42:52
  be
• 42:52
  true
• 42:52
  to
• 42:52
  yourself,
• 42:53
  or
• 42:53
  do
• 42:53
  you
• 42:54
  want
• 42:54
  to
• 42:54
  take
• 42:54
  a
• 42:54
  big
• 42:54
  chance
• 42:54
  of
• 42:55
  losing
• 42:55
  yourself
• 42:55
  and
• 42:56
  gaining
• 42:57
  nothing?
• 42:57
  So.
• 42:59
  And
• 42:59
  I
• 42:59
  don't
• 43:00
  mean
• 43:00
  to
• 43:00
  take
• 43:00
  this
• 43:00
  to
• 43:01
  a
• 43:01
  dark
• 43:01
  place,
• 43:01
  but
• 43:01
  I
• 43:02
  always
• 43:02
  like
• 43:02
  to
• 43:02
  remind
• 43:03
  myself
• 43:03
  that
• 43:03
  I'm
• 43:04
  gonna
• 43:04
  die
• 43:04
  one
• 43:05
  day,
• 43:05
  and
• 43:05
  on
• 43:05
  my
• 43:05
  deathbed,
• 43:06
  I
• 43:06
  don't
• 43:06
  want
• 43:06
  to
• 43:06
  listen
• 43:07
  to
• 43:07
  what
• 43:07
  I've
• 43:07
  worked
• 43:07
  on
• 43:07
  and
• 43:08
  go,
• 43:08
  yeah,
• 43:09
  sell
• 43:09
  out.
• 43:09
  Yeah,
• 43:10
  true.
• 43:11
  You're
• 43:11
  absolutely
• 43:12
  right.
• 43:12
  I
• 43:12
  was
• 43:13
  just
• 43:13
  gonna
• 43:13
  say
• 43:13
  that.
• 43:13
  I
• 43:14
  think
• 43:14
  people
• 43:14
  want
• 43:15
  to
• 43:15
  know
• 43:15
  what
• 43:16
  you've
• 43:16
  acted
• 43:16
  in
• 43:16
  so
• 43:17
  they
• 43:17
  can
• 43:17
  look
• 43:17
  it
• 43:17
  up.
• 43:18
  If
• 43:18
  you
• 43:18
  could
• 43:19
  let
• 43:19
  us
• 43:19
  know
• 43:19
  about
• 43:19
  that,
• 43:19
  where
• 43:20
  people
• 43:20
  could
• 43:20
  find
• 43:20
  you.
• 43:21
  Your
• 43:21
  Instagram
• 43:22
  handles
• 43:22
  your
• 43:23
  website,
• 43:23
  names
• 43:24
  of
• 43:24
  your
• 43:24
  songs,
• 43:24
  anything
• 43:25
  you
• 43:25
  want
• 43:25
  our
• 43:25
  listeners
• 43:25
  to
• 43:26
  know.
• 43:26
  Yes.
• 43:27
  So
• 43:27
  people
• 43:28
  can
• 43:28
  follow
• 43:28
  me
• 43:29
  in
• 43:29
  at
• 43:29
  Lopez
• 43:30
  Carupe.
• 43:33
  L,
• 43:33
  O,
• 43:33
  P.
• 43:34
  If
• 43:34
  you
• 43:34
  can
• 43:35
  help
• 43:35
  me.
• 43:35
  L,
• 43:36
  O,
• 43:36
  P,
• 43:37
  E,
• 43:38
  C.
• 43:39
  Right.
• 43:39
  Yeah.
• 43:39
  Set.
• 43:40
  Yep.
• 43:42
  C,
• 43:42
  A,
• 43:43
  R,
• 43:43
  O,
• 43:44
  P.
• 43:45
  Oh,
• 43:46
  caro
• 43:46
  P.
• 43:47
  Okay.
• 43:47
  Yes.
• 43:48
  Lopez
• 43:49
  Carol.
• 43:49
  It'll
• 43:50
  be
• 43:50
  in
• 43:50
  the
• 43:50
  description.
• 43:51
  Yeah.
• 43:51
  Thank
• 43:51
  you.
• 43:52
  And
• 43:53
  then
• 43:53
  people
• 43:53
  can.
• 43:54
  Can
• 43:54
  find
• 43:55
  my
• 43:55
  music
• 43:55
  as
• 43:56
  a
• 43:56
  Caro
• 43:57
  Lopez
• 43:58
  on
• 43:58
  Spotify,
• 43:59
  all
• 43:59
  platforms.
• 44:00
  And.
• 44:01
  Yeah,
• 44:01
  you
• 44:01
  too,
• 44:01
  have
• 44:01
  to.
• 44:02
  What
• 44:02
  are
• 44:02
  you
• 44:03
  currently
• 44:03
  working
• 44:03
  on?
• 44:03
  Just
• 44:04
  out
• 44:04
  of
• 44:04
  curiosity,
• 44:04
  before
• 44:05
  we
• 44:05
  let
• 44:05
  you
• 44:05
  go,
• 44:05
  is
• 44:05
  there
• 44:05
  any
• 44:06
  new
• 44:06
  music
• 44:06
  coming?
• 44:07
  Yes,
• 44:08
  new
• 44:08
  music.
• 44:09
  There
• 44:10
  is
• 44:10
  a
• 44:10
  new
• 44:10
  fusion
• 44:11
  that
• 44:11
  I'm
• 44:11
  so
• 44:12
  excited
• 44:12
  working
• 44:12
  on.
• 44:14
  It's
• 44:15
  some
• 44:16
  variations
• 44:17
  about
• 44:18
  indigenous
• 44:20
  flus.
• 44:20
  And.
• 44:21
  And
• 44:21
  there
• 44:21
  are
• 44:21
  so
• 44:22
  many
• 44:22
  things
• 44:22
  that
• 44:22
  are
• 44:23
  coming.
• 44:23
  It's
• 44:24
  a
• 44:24
  powerful
• 44:26
  women's
• 44:26
  song
• 44:27
  and.
• 44:27
  Yeah.
• 44:28
  Working
• 44:28
  in
• 44:29
  a
• 44:29
  couple
• 44:29
  of
• 44:29
  songs
• 44:30
  that
• 44:30
  are
• 44:30
  coming.
• 44:30
  Yes.
• 44:31
  With
• 44:31
  some
• 44:32
  English.
• 44:32
  I
• 44:32
  promise
• 44:33
  we're
• 44:34
  gonna
• 44:34
  do.
• 44:34
  Only
• 44:34
  if
• 44:35
  you
• 44:35
  want
• 44:35
  to
• 44:35
  do
• 44:36
  it
• 44:36
  in
• 44:36
  English.
• 44:36
  Yeah,
• 44:37
  not
• 44:38
  for
• 44:38
  us.
• 44:38
  We'll
• 44:39
  learn
• 44:39
  Spanish.
• 44:39
  Okay.
• 44:41
  Next
• 44:41
  time,
• 44:41
  the
• 44:42
  interviews
• 44:42
  in
• 44:42
  Spanish.
• 44:43
  You
• 44:43
  know
• 44:43
  what?
• 44:44
  You
• 44:44
  know
• 44:44
  what?
• 44:45
  Spanish.
• 44:45
  Because
• 44:45
  people
• 44:46
  say,
• 44:46
  keep
• 44:46
  saying
• 44:46
  Spanish
• 44:47
  is
• 44:47
  a
• 44:47
  fairly
• 44:48
  easy
• 44:48
  language
• 44:48
  to
• 44:48
  learn.
• 44:49
  And
• 44:49
  the
• 44:50
  other
• 44:50
  day
• 44:51
  I
• 44:51
  put
• 44:52
  on
• 44:52
  a
• 44:53
  Spanish
• 44:53
  show
• 44:53
  with
• 44:54
  English
• 44:54
  subtitles,
• 44:55
  and
• 44:55
  I
• 44:55
  was
• 44:55
  like,
• 44:55
  I
• 44:55
  understand
• 44:56
  everything.
• 44:57
  So
• 44:57
  I'm
• 44:57
  just
• 44:57
  going
• 44:57
  to
• 44:58
  keep
• 44:58
  doing
• 44:58
  that
• 44:58
  until
• 44:58
  I
• 44:58
  learn
• 44:59
  Spanish.
• 44:59
  That's
• 44:59
  how
• 44:59
  I
• 44:59
  learned
• 45:00
  English.
• 45:00
  Yeah,
• 45:00
  it
• 45:01
  helps,
• 45:03
  you
• 45:03
  know,
• 45:03
  it
• 45:03
  doesn't
• 45:04
  hurt
• 45:05
  to
• 45:05
  get
• 45:05
  another
• 45:06
  language.
• 45:07
  It's
• 45:07
  amazing
• 45:07
  to.
• 45:08
  To
• 45:09
  say
• 45:09
  whatever
• 45:10
  word
• 45:10
  you
• 45:10
  know.
• 45:11
  It
• 45:11
  just
• 45:11
  helps
• 45:12
  you
• 45:12
  to
• 45:12
  communicate
• 45:13
  better
• 45:13
  with
• 45:14
  the
• 45:14
  person.
• 45:15
  Accepted.
• 45:15
  Guys,
• 45:15
  Guys,
• 45:16
  do
• 45:16
  we
• 45:16
  all
• 45:16
  want
• 45:16
  to
• 45:17
  learn
• 45:17
  Spanish?
• 45:18
  I
• 45:18
  was
• 45:18
  supposed
• 45:19
  to.
• 45:19
  Ten
• 45:19
  years
• 45:19
  ago,
• 45:20
  I
• 45:20
  downloaded
• 45:20
  Duolingo
• 45:21
  a
• 45:21
  few
• 45:21
  times,
• 45:21
  and
• 45:22
  I
• 45:22
  try.
• 45:22
  I
• 45:22
  still
• 45:22
  have
• 45:23
  Duolingo.
• 45:23
  Let's
• 45:23
  do
• 45:24
  it.
• 45:24
  We're
• 45:24
  going
• 45:24
  to
• 45:24
  figure
• 45:24
  this
• 45:24
  out.
• 45:24
  I'll
• 45:25
  get
• 45:25
  better.
• 45:25
  I
• 45:25
  know
• 45:25
  better.
• 45:26
  Throw
• 45:26
  some
• 45:26
  Spanish
• 45:26
  in
• 45:27
  there.
• 45:27
  Well,
• 45:27
  you.
• 45:27
  You
• 45:28
  have
• 45:28
  a.
• 45:28
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• 45:28
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