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The Bolt Report | 30 July · The Bolt Report

• 0:11
  Speaker 1: This is the all night.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight an apology from the woman who made that sick
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: ABC film about sodomizing minor Gina Reinhardt. What an apology
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: you wait to you hear it? And where's the ABC's
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: also tonight? Fighting fake history. I talked to a former
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: serviceman trying to stop the Australian War Memorial honoring what
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: it claims are the Frontier Wars in which tens of
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  Speaker 2: thousands of Aborigines allegedly died fighting settlers. And Pauline Hansen's
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  Speaker 2: new lord of sub terrorists coming back to Australia.
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  Speaker 1: That's also coming up with the Albert.
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  Speaker 2: Easy government says we shouldn't even try an extraordinary development today.
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: But first talk about politicians behaving badly allegedly no wonder
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  Speaker 2: the people have lost so much respect for politics. First example,
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: although the third and last one is the most important.
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  Speaker 2: Federal Labor MP Luke Gosling was today arrested and charged
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  Speaker 2: with assaulting the Administrator of the Northern Territory, David Connolly,
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  Speaker 2: who's like, you know, the governor up there is the territory,
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  Speaker 2: so it gets a governor, the King's representative allegedly assaulted
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  Speaker 2: by a labor MP of the Northern Territories Thailand Grand Festival. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Goslin's lawyer was a bit cranky about all that.
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  Speaker 3: It's particularly concerning that in a matter of this type
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  Speaker 3: police resorted to the power of arrest where it could
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  Speaker 3: easily have been dealt with or noticed to a peer
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  Speaker 3: or a summons. It's a concern that that might have
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  Speaker 3: some political basis behind it. The charge is fully and
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  Speaker 3: completely contested, but we're unable to comment any further other
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  Speaker 3: than to say we are assistant police with their investigations
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  Speaker 3: and will cooperate fully.
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  Speaker 2: It's just amazing. Now, Lucky you just heard Gosling says
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  Speaker 2: is innocent. But the Prime Minister's a real problem here
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  Speaker 2: is is Anthony Albanez. He now going to make Gosling
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  Speaker 2: step aside. It's a special Envoy for Defense and all
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  Speaker 2: an Australian until this case has resolved. Other Liberal ministers
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  Speaker 2: Liberal ones have stood down during inquiries.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, but yes, you know we've got to.
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  Speaker 2: Remember the code innocent until proven guilty. Example too, this
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  Speaker 2: time from the other side of politics. On Tuesday, sprinter
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  Speaker 2: Lachlan Kennedy smashed the Australian record in coming second in
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  Speaker 2: one hundred meters sprint of the Comwealth Games and Federal Nationals.
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: Backbencher Lou O'Brien wrote an extraordinary post, headed.
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  Speaker 1: White men can sprint.
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  Speaker 2: He goes like this, I'll read it to you and
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  Speaker 2: as you listen, you'll hear it. It sounds like he was writing.
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  Speaker 2: As he was writing, was thinking, should I actually be
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: saying this? Which is a little voice he shouldn't have ignored,
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  Speaker 2: he wrote it was already. It was also encouraging to
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  Speaker 2: see a white Australian compete at this level, one of
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  Speaker 2: the world's premier sprint events. That observation isn't intended to
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  Speaker 2: diminish the extraordinary achievements of black athletes who have dominated
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  Speaker 2: the leads sprinty.
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  Speaker 1: For many years.
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  Speaker 2: It's simply an acknowledgement the Austraians of every background can
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  Speaker 2: take pregnancyeing someone who reflects their own heritage succeeded the
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  Speaker 2: highest levels. There's nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage,
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  Speaker 2: whether you're black or white. Pride and who you are
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  Speaker 2: is good when it doesn't come to the expense of
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  Speaker 2: respect for others. Opposition leadering this status today try to
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  Speaker 2: laugh it off.
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  Speaker 4: I congratulate all Australians who are competing for Australia and
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  Speaker 4: doing well. We love Australians winning medals. We love Australians succeeding.
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  Speaker 1: We always have.
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  Speaker 4: That's the country I believe in and I don't care
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  Speaker 4: what their background is. Well, what I make of mister
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  Speaker 4: O'Brien is like mayhe is supporting Australians to succeed.
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  Speaker 2: No, it is interesting that Kenny is the fastest white sprinter,
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  Speaker 2: but should all white Australians really be proud as whites?
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  Speaker 1: It was only the other day that the.
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  Speaker 2: Same lu O'Brien had a whack a pool Enhanson for
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  Speaker 2: attacking multiculturalism. You know that's a government policy to keep
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: us divided into cultural and racial ghettos.
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  Speaker 5: I think we're in, we live in a success for
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  Speaker 5: multicultural society.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's made our nation great.
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  Speaker 2: I think O'Brien, like MANI liberals, doesn't seem to realize
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  Speaker 2: that this race identification business is exactly what multiculturalism does.
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  Speaker 2: Lead to people identifying by race, which is a poison.
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  Speaker 2: Now Brian might well say, well, you know what about
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  Speaker 2: black pride, You know what about people saying, oh I
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  Speaker 2: proudly identify as this or that aboriginal tribe. But yes, sure,
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  Speaker 2: that is exactly what is pushing some whites to this
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  Speaker 2: white pride nonsense. It's stay white sprinter, and it's exactly
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  Speaker 2: what the left must expect if they push black pride.
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  Speaker 1: I mean action, reaction.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I've been against all of this nonsense for years,
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  Speaker 2: this tribalism, this my side, your side, and the liberals
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  Speaker 2: that they have got to learn a fight against it
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  Speaker 2: as well, fight this multi cultural madness that is dividing
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  Speaker 2: us like this. And to my third and last example
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  Speaker 2: of politicians behaving badly, throwing your money around like confetti,
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  Speaker 2: and today laughably dodging responsibility for the waste. In May,
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  Speaker 2: when Victoria's labor premier was the incompetent of Center Allen,
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister, tried to bail out her broke government
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  Speaker 2: by promising another three point six billion dollars for her
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: insanely expensive and useless suburban rail loop, claiming this was
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  Speaker 2: exactly what Melbourne needed. Fantastic plan.
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  Speaker 7: This is a project that will transform the way that
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  Speaker 7: Melbourne functions. And what we have as a federal government
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  Speaker 7: is thirteen billion dollars investing in suburban rail loop.
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  Speaker 2: So much of your money and project's being ripped off
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  Speaker 2: by corrupt union officials and organized crime games stealing a
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  Speaker 2: reported fifteen billion with a b billion dollars.
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  Speaker 1: But don't you worry about that, said Albanezi at the time.
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  Speaker 8: How can you be sure this money you won't end
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  Speaker 8: up in the camp?
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  Speaker 7: Well, there's no place for crime in Australia in any form.
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: The corruption scandal, in fact turned out to be a
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  Speaker 2: big reason why Justinter Allen was forced out as premier
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  Speaker 2: this week.
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  Speaker 1: And the new Labor Premier has been Carroll.
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  Speaker 2: And he today may clear that he is thinking of
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  Speaker 2: scrapping what this, at least what he can of this
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  Speaker 2: white elephant of a rail project.
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  Speaker 9: I've got no announcements to make today.
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  Speaker 3: What i can say is that every dollar of my
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  Speaker 3: government will be invested where it delivers the greatest value
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  Speaker 3: for victorious.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, that's the background today.
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  Speaker 2: A miracle from the heavens Suddenly Albanize isn't saying this
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  Speaker 2: rail project he was giving thirteen million dollars through is
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  Speaker 2: just the transformation that Melbourne really needs.
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  Speaker 5: Would you be glad to see it go?
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  Speaker 10: I spoke with Ben Carrol yessay, and I welcome his
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  Speaker 10: election as Premier. I look forward to working with him
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  Speaker 10: for work constructive with the Victorian government to make sure
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  Speaker 10: that the interests of Victorians are looked after.
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  Speaker 2: You see that we've whoops, are not going there. So
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  Speaker 2: last week we had a project that he was saying, oh,
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  Speaker 2: billion dollars, it's not money well spent. This week May
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  Speaker 2: and here's the funny bit. The person who signs the
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: Avenezy government's checks is Finance Minister Katie Gallagher, who today
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  Speaker 2: and listen carefully for the hints today was dodging blame
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: and scapegoating Federal Transport Minister Madeline King instead.
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: I suspect they're not good friends. She did it twice. Listen.
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  Speaker 11: Those corruption concerns were well known when the federal cabinet
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  Speaker 11: decided to give extra three point eight billion dollars to
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  Speaker 11: the suburban rail Loop in this year's budget, did you
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  Speaker 11: discuss the possibility that some of that money could end
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  Speaker 11: up in the hands of organized crime.
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  Speaker 9: Well, this is a matter that Catherine King, as the
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  Speaker 9: Infrastructure Minister, has been responding to a fin minister.
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  Speaker 11: Were you concerned, given those stories were well known, The
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  Speaker 11: allegations of corruption.
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  Speaker 9: Well, we were very clear through the work that the IC,
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  Speaker 9: through Minister King, the decision of the federal government in
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  Speaker 9: relation to the allocation of funding for that project was
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  Speaker 9: for that project and that appropriate risk management and needed
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  Speaker 9: to be undertaken by the Victorian government.
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  Speaker 1: You heard a blame Catherine King. Everyone blame Catherine.
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  Speaker 6: Catherine.
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  Speaker 2: Katie's just the one who hands over the taxpayers cash.
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  Speaker 1: You can't blame her.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, guys, you earn that money and that's how
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: recklessly they spend it. That really is politicians behaving badly.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: One Nation leader to Pauline Hanson today presented draft laws
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  Speaker 2: to stop terrorists from coming home to Australia, something the
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  Speaker 2: ovenezy government claims is impossible.
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  Speaker 5: Thirteen men reportedly linked to the terrorist group ISIS are
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  Speaker 5: being held in a bag Dad prison and want the
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  Speaker 5: Labor government to bring them to Australia over says the
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  Speaker 5: law ties its hands. But behind closed doors they have
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  Speaker 5: been discussing ways to bring No One terrorists and ISAIS
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  Speaker 5: sympathizes back without the government being seen to help. That
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  Speaker 5: is a disgrace. One Nation has drafted a robust bill
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  Speaker 5: to keep dangerous foreign terrorist fighters out of Australia.
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  Speaker 2: The Hans's plan is to give the courts a role
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  Speaker 2: which the High Court insists on. When you know, in
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  Speaker 2: granting an exclusion order on a foreign FIGHTO, then the
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  Speaker 2: government can deny them any passport and make it a
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  Speaker 2: crime to help them come back. Now, I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: how the courts would grant such an order without hearing
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  Speaker 2: from the alleged terrorists leading then put their side in court.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, maybe it could be done.
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  Speaker 2: But Home Affairs miss the Tony Burke today didn't just
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  Speaker 2: say oh, look, no, no, no, the High Court's going
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  Speaker 2: to say no to this plan.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: Is going to say no in thirty seconds, he.
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  Speaker 2: Said even more extraordinary, Tony Burke said the whole idea
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  Speaker 2: was wrong because if you stopped foreign australia In terrorists
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  Speaker 2: from coming home, that could mean other countries would stop
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  Speaker 2: taking their criminal citizens back if we kick them out.
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  Speaker 12: Every country in the world has to take back its
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  Speaker 12: own citizens, and I would just say people should be
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  Speaker 12: very wary of letting go of the principle that countries
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  Speaker 12: have to take their citizens back.
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  Speaker 2: I don't recall the governor ever before saying we shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: even try to stop Australian terrorists coming back here from
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  Speaker 2: you know, Islamish state fartus. We shouldn't even stop them.
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  Speaker 2: I thought they were pretending that they were trying to
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  Speaker 2: stop them. Heaven's above. Joining me is Chris Merritt, Vice
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  Speaker 2: President of the Rule of Low Institute of Australia. Chris,
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  Speaker 2: always great to talk to you. Listen, I have not
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  Speaker 2: got a constitutional expertise here.
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  Speaker 1: You're the man now.
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  Speaker 2: Could Paulin Hansen's plan actually work to keep out terrorists?
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  Speaker 2: You know the party claims to consult the constitutional experts.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think they hardcourt would agree to this?
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you for having me on, Andrew.
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  Speaker 13: There's a lot of politicking involved in this. Let's get
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  Speaker 13: right to the point here. Much of what Pauline Hanson
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  Speaker 13: wants to achieve can already be achieved by laws that
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  Speaker 13: are already on the books. They're just not being used.
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  Speaker 13: The bottom line is what she wants to do is
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  Speaker 13: permanently exclude Australians who have conducted themselves in a way
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  Speaker 13: that aligns with terrorist groups. We already have temporary exclusion
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  Speaker 13: orders that can be used for a period of two
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  Speaker 13: years and repeated almost indefinitely to effectively achieve much the
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  Speaker 13: same thing. She's also proposing to have the government cancel
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  Speaker 13: the passports of people who are subject to exclusion orders.
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  Speaker 13: That's also possible now, but it's not being used. The
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  Speaker 13: Passports Act make that very clear. The other point I'd
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  Speaker 13: like to make too, is that the fact that these
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  Speaker 13: laws are on the books that we can exclude people temporarily,
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  Speaker 13: but whether we can repeat those orders, that tells me
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  Speaker 13: that Parliament has already decided when it enacted those laws,
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  Speaker 13: that there's a policy in place in those laws to
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  Speaker 13: exclude people to not take them back. So it's not
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  Speaker 13: something brand new. This is the policy of a law
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  Speaker 13: that's been on the books for a long time now.
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  Speaker 13: When mister Burke says that this proposal wouldn't last thirty seconds,
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  Speaker 13: I think he said in the High Court. I think
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  Speaker 13: he's on a bit of a winner there. I think
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  Speaker 13: the proposal to permanently exclude Australian citizens from Australia would
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  Speaker 13: mean overturning a series of precedents dating back to nineteen
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  Speaker 13: hundred and eight, so I think the Court would be
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  Speaker 13: a bit reluctant to do that. But the strength of
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  Speaker 13: what Pauline Hanson is trying to do, and it clearly
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  Speaker 13: reflects outside legal advice from constitutional experts. She wants to
• 14:14
  Speaker 13: have the court have a central role in this, the
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  Speaker 13: Federal Court presumably, So that's a step in the right direction.
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  Speaker 13: I just don't think the proposal to permanently exclude these
• 14:25
  Speaker 13: people would fly. But bottom line, it's not necessary. All
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  Speaker 13: that's necessary is that the existing law should be enforced.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: You raised two things for me. One is that it's
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  Speaker 2: not clear, and so why not run it past the
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: courts and let them cop the owners, you know, the
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: weight of saying yay or nay to make you sure
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  Speaker 2: it's safe or not. But the other thing is, if
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: we already have laws that can achieve much the same effect,
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  Speaker 2: except you know, you have to renew a temporary ban
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  Speaker 2: every two years, why isn't it being used. Does this
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: actually reflect the truth of what Tony Burke essentially said
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  Speaker 2: that he doesn't want them permanently excluded. This is, in fact,
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  Speaker 2: and a government that does not want to stop them.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's right.
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  Speaker 13: I think the fact that these powers have not been exercised,
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  Speaker 13: or they have been exercised in one case that I'm
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  Speaker 13: aware of quite recently, the woman who was proposing to
• 15:26
  Speaker 13: come back with the Isis brides. She was subject to
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  Speaker 13: a temporary exclusion order. So's the power has been used very,
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  Speaker 13: very sparingly. But look, there's a compromise possible here. There's
• 15:43
  Speaker 13: been some academic criticism about the fact that temporary exclusion
• 15:48
  Speaker 13: orders don't go at the moment to a court. It's
• 15:52
  Speaker 13: the government that effectively makes these orders unilaterally. The strength
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  Speaker 13: of what Senator Hanson has proparsed is involving the court
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  Speaker 13: in making these orders. So my suggestion would be a
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  Speaker 13: bit of a compromise and get the temporary exclusion orders
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  Speaker 13: run past the courts as well. Now that might sound
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  Speaker 13: a little bit cumbersome from a government point of view,
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  Speaker 13: but it might also prevent some very nasty surprises if
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  Speaker 13: ministerial exclusion orders are subsequently overturned and we finish up
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  Speaker 13: having to accommodate people who should not be accommodated.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think you make a point there, because I
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  Speaker 2: suspect eventually if you kept repeating a temporary protection order
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  Speaker 2: every two years, the High Court would step in and say,
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  Speaker 2: now listen, you know that is in fact effect you
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  Speaker 2: taking a permanent decision without jurisdiction without the courts having
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  Speaker 2: a say, and that is unconstitutional. So maybe I think
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  Speaker 2: they should just try that Paul and Hanson gambit and
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  Speaker 2: just see if it works. What's there to lose? Chris Merrit,
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time before the break.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: We got an apology today, well kind of from the
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  Speaker 2: woman who made that vile film fantasizing about sodomizing minor
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  Speaker 2: Gina Reina, a film the ABC not actually not even
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  Speaker 2: just showed on the ABC, but then defended.
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  Speaker 14: Because when the revolution comes, will you hide under your
• 17:26
  Speaker 14: bed or will you know exactly how to shove a
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  Speaker 14: stick right off Gena Reinhart's bottole, stirring it around Nixinger
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  Speaker 14: gots up nice and smooth.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Race around the World contestant Kate McGinnis, who made
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  Speaker 2: that film now says, well, the sense of humor featured
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  Speaker 2: in each of my films on the Race around the
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: World program is fascicle. In no way was it my
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  Speaker 2: intention to promote violence by writing this cartoonish and always satirical. Unfortunately,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: jokes do not land with everyone. Its purpose is to
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: be taken literally. I apologize to anyone I've offended. Now
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: a couple of things about that. First, why no apology
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  Speaker 2: directly to Gina Reinhardt, the woman most grievously offended and
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  Speaker 2: held up to ridicule in a fantasy of sodomizing her, etc.
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  Speaker 2: And again, how is that fantasizing of her fascicle? It
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: was just pure vicious hate, that's all. It was just hate.
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  Speaker 2: But the other thing, if even the filmmaker is sorry,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: brackets kind of, If even the filmmakers is a public sorry,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: why hasn't the ABC said sorry too? Why has it
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  Speaker 2: in fact defended it defended the film. Oh no, it's
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: within our guidelines. And why did it ever run this
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: abuse in the first place. Something is sick in the ABC.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: After the break, the scientists who helped terrify the world
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: about the virus, the Coronian, the COVID virus and clear
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: chain of blame even tried to do that is now
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: put on trial in the US Senate. Well here's breaking news.
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  Speaker 2: Australia's longer serving climate change minister has quit. Stop the cheering.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: It's not Chris Bowen, but it is someone just as radically,
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  Speaker 2: probably even more so, Lily Danbrosio with Victoria's she's been
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: climate change Minister since it was a baby, insisting she
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: was even more radical about climate change than the premiere
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: that she loyally served to center Allen, That tells you
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: something why Victoria is becoming a basket case too. She's
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: quit because the new premier is even less interested in
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: that kind of absolute nonsense.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: He's got a state to save and she's out, Thank Heavens.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you now, statistic lets you tell
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: you everything about the politicians and health experts who order
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: those devastating lockdowns during the COVID crisis. Devastating for the economy,
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  Speaker 2: devastating for children, devastating, emotionally, devastating to any trust that
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: we have in experts. Guess how many Australians started for
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: COVID in May. That's the last month for which we
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: have figures sixty six. Now, back during the COVID panic,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: you know that sixty six deaths in a month would
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: have had whole cities lockdown. Melbourne was locked down a
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: third time when there were zero deaths in Australia, in
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: all Australia in that whole month. But now you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: old people die every death. Then COVID in May was
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: in fact of people aged over sixty, three quarters of
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  Speaker 2: them over eighty. And like I said from the start,
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  Speaker 2: let us protect the elderly. They're the ones that are vulnerable.
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  Speaker 2: Almost no one young dies of COVID. Let the young
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  Speaker 2: live their lives, which has what got me a blast
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  Speaker 2: from Prime Minister Scott Morrison.
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  Speaker 1: At the time, I was heartless.
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  Speaker 2: And now, of course no one trusts experts. That's been
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  Speaker 2: very damaging, including unfortunately the real ones. Perhaps the most
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: influential expert in the world at the time was yesterday
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: on trial, so to speak, for allegedly telling monstrous untruths
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: during the COVID scare. Who is doctor Anthony Fauci, who
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: was Donald Trump's chief medical advisor and also head of
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: And he was being grilled.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Yesterday by US senators and claimed they were so out
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to get him that he claimed his constitutional right to
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: silence one hundred and eleven times to protect himself.
• 21:48
  Speaker 15: Can you explain to the committee why you chose to
• 21:51
  Speaker 15: find this dangerous research in China.
• 21:55
  Speaker 16: On the Adviceive Council, I respectfully declined to answer, based
• 21:59
  Speaker 16: upon my writes under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Now as you heard just there.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Fauci was grilled on how he had covered up the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: fact that he had helped fund research by Chinese scientists
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: into making such viruses more deadly. In fact, funded scientists
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: in exactly the lab in Ruhan from which many experts
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: believe that virus escaped, although Fauci at the time play
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: that theory down as far fetched, highly unlikely.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: Anthony Fauci is shooting down theories that the coronavirus was
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: man made. He tells National Geographic everything about the step
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: wise evolution over time strongly indicates that this virus evolved
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: in nature and then jump species. Fauci added he does
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: not believe another theory that the virus occurred naturally but
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: was accidentally released into the public from a lab in China.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: A couple of years later, when the lab theory of
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the answer looked very much more likely, Fauci was still
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: hanging tough against it.
• 23:00
  Speaker 16: Look at the data.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: A group, a fairly large group, a very well.
• 23:05
  Speaker 16: Respected evolutionary virologists have examined epidemiological, virological or geospatial data
• 23:12
  Speaker 16: from Wuhan and have come to the conclusion not definitively
• 23:16
  Speaker 16: by any means, but feeling that it is much more
• 23:20
  Speaker 16: likely that it is a natural occurrence from an animal
• 23:23
  Speaker 16: to a human. However, since it hasn't been definitively proven,
• 23:27
  Speaker 16: we've got to keep a completely open mind.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: The fact is also a blasted for this claim during
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the COVID.
• 23:34
  Speaker 17: Panic, adverse events are unusual and rare as a matter
• 23:39
  Speaker 17: of fact, and clearly the benefit of protecting yourself from
• 23:43
  Speaker 17: COVID nineteen far outweighs any risk of adverse events.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Now there's so little trust and experts defending the COVID
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: vaccines and conspiracy theories.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Running wild on the internet. The FAUCCI was yes that
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I attacked like this.
• 23:59
  Speaker 15: Currently, worldwide, there have been almost one point seven million
• 24:03
  Speaker 15: adverage events reported to the Veryeous system. Of those, over
• 24:08
  Speaker 15: thirty nine thousand were doats, and of those douths, twenty
• 24:11
  Speaker 15: four percent occur on the day of vaccination. Within one
• 24:15
  Speaker 15: or two days I published it and people had me
• 24:19
  Speaker 15: on their sholves they would be censored by Facebook.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I mean settle in fact that Verius system actually says
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: you can't take there's report deaths alone as evidence of
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: a cause of the association between the vaccine and an
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: adverse event like death, and scientists here have confirmed when
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: you actually check the deaths that are reported most often,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: it isn't the vaccine that caused it. Our Therapeutic Goods
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: administration said, of the nine hundred and seventy six people
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: who died here after being vaccinated, just fourteen were killed
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: by the vaccine, mostly the astrosenica one that you remember
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: was withdrawn. Many more lives, in fact, were saved. But
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: who believes experts now? Right joining me is James Morrow,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: who hosts the US Report here on News twenty four
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: on Fridays at eight pm. It's Covit Fauci's here for
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the daily Tcoleograph and a great piece that I urge
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: you to read on the website right now. James Morrow,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Great to see you again. Found is actually given a
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: pound in advance by former President Joe Biden. So why
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: did he still refuse to give evidence to the Senate hearing.
• 25:19
  Speaker 18: Well, that's a great mystery here, Andrew, because once you
• 25:23
  Speaker 18: have been given a pardon like this, and there's a
• 25:25
  Speaker 18: Supreme Court case that goes back to eighteen ninety six
• 25:27
  Speaker 18: on this, if you're testifying in this sort of forum
• 25:31
  Speaker 18: and this pardon, by the way, covered the last ten
• 25:33
  Speaker 18: years of anything any federal crime that he had committed. Right,
• 25:38
  Speaker 18: so he if he was asked for anything, he could
• 25:41
  Speaker 18: admit to anything and not get in trouble for this,
• 25:43
  Speaker 18: he instead chose to say that he was invoking his
• 25:46
  Speaker 18: Fifth Amendment rights, which he does not have in that forum. Now,
• 25:51
  Speaker 18: the only thing we can think of is that, you know,
• 25:54
  Speaker 18: either this guy has such an egomaniac it would be
• 25:57
  Speaker 18: so embarrassing for him to reveal the truth and the
• 26:01
  Speaker 18: dissonance between his diary and what he actually did and
• 26:05
  Speaker 18: said about you know, everything from masks to lockdowns to
• 26:08
  Speaker 18: the deadliness of the virus, or or there's far more
• 26:12
  Speaker 18: sinister stuff that he doesn't want to set himself up
• 26:15
  Speaker 18: in a perjury trap over around who funded the work
• 26:20
  Speaker 18: at the Wuhan Institute of Virology where the virus is
• 26:24
  Speaker 18: thought to have emerged.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: So given all that and him not responding and all
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, what actually did we learn from
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: this hearing?
• 26:36
  Speaker 18: Well, we learned that there's still a lot of anger
• 26:39
  Speaker 18: out there about COVID. That's for one thing. I mean,
• 26:41
  Speaker 18: people you know have this is this was a very
• 26:44
  Speaker 18: traumatic two years. The whole day was very weird for
• 26:47
  Speaker 18: me going back and you know, looking at old clips
• 26:49
  Speaker 18: of things and you know, everything we went through. And
• 26:52
  Speaker 18: after I put that piece up this morning on the
• 26:54
  Speaker 18: Daily Telegraph website, you know, I got more feedback on
• 26:57
  Speaker 18: that today than I've gotten on anything for a long time.
• 26:59
  Speaker 18: People to tell their stories about how, you know traumatic.
• 27:02
  Speaker 18: The whole thing was, how hard their lives were, what
• 27:05
  Speaker 18: happened to them, and how they were really hurt by
• 27:08
  Speaker 18: the government's responsible. I think the thing that we learned
• 27:10
  Speaker 18: is that, you know, there needs to be a reckoning
• 27:12
  Speaker 18: because we didn't get any recording out of Fauci, but
• 27:14
  Speaker 18: some sort of reckoning has to be made for I think,
• 27:17
  Speaker 18: you know, what everybody went through or the advice of
• 27:20
  Speaker 18: this guy that we know was really spurious.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's weird, isn't it?
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: In one way? James?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: You know, I always thought that once we went through,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: when we had went through all that trauma, most Australians
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: don't want to hear another word about it, right, They
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: don't even want to look Daniel Andrews in the eye.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: For instance, Victorian Premier was the most hard line on
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: that that man is a pariah in Victoria unbeaten an election.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Now that we oh my god, I couldn't even don't
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: want to look at him, don't want him in our
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: golf club. But it does it now persuade you, though,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the response you got and what you're seeing there, that
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: we do need a royal commission into how it was
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: we suffered such devastating lockdowns when the evidence from almost
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: the beginning was this was a virus that was not
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: transmitted out in the open.
• 28:11
  Speaker 18: And not only that, Andrew, we had a pandemic plan.
• 28:14
  Speaker 18: Tony Abbott authored it when he was Health minister, that
• 28:18
  Speaker 18: was on the shelf ready to go, that did not
• 28:20
  Speaker 18: call for any of the things that they did were
• 28:22
  Speaker 18: so damaging, you know, the lockdowns, the closing of the schools,
• 28:26
  Speaker 18: which was devastating to so many young people. It just
• 28:30
  Speaker 18: destroyed their education, everything else. You know, you ask about
• 28:33
  Speaker 18: a royal commission, Andrew, and the thing I would say
• 28:35
  Speaker 18: is this, we were spending a lot of time right now
• 28:38
  Speaker 18: talking about social cohesion and you know we're talking about
• 28:43
  Speaker 18: it in the context of multiculturalism and ethnic groups and religion. Fine,
• 28:47
  Speaker 18: but you know what else has happened in the last
• 28:50
  Speaker 18: five six years to really harbor our social cohesion. I'd
• 28:53
  Speaker 18: say two years of being locked up at home and
• 28:56
  Speaker 18: being told to snitch on our neighbors for our own good.
• 29:01
  Speaker 18: I think that as there's a big root cause for
• 29:04
  Speaker 18: a lot of the angst that we have in society
• 29:07
  Speaker 18: that's now expressing itself in other ways, a ural commission
• 29:11
  Speaker 18: would be traumatic. But I also think that letting this
• 29:14
  Speaker 18: fester is toxic.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Look, my wife has to deal with sometimes with children
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: of very poor families who have been didn't get the socialization,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: even the motor skills. Sometimes from that lockdown. It was
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: just we are living the trauma right now.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: James.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I think it's absolutely disgusting. But you know, I think
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: the reaction to your piece suggests that people do want
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: some sort of reckoning, don't they.
• 29:45
  Speaker 18: I would hope.
• 29:46
  Speaker 19: So.
• 29:46
  Speaker 18: I think that there's enough people out there, and I
• 29:48
  Speaker 18: think that for the political class to say, oh, well,
• 29:51
  Speaker 18: it's time to move on. Let bygones be bygones. You know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 18: we wouldn't let this be bygones if this was something
• 29:58
  Speaker 18: Trump had done. You know, we've got at Eykak hearing
• 30:01
  Speaker 18: about stuff that happened years ago that they're not letting
• 30:03
  Speaker 18: bygones be bygones On, but for some reason we just
• 30:06
  Speaker 18: say we get a pass on this. It's this expert
• 30:09
  Speaker 18: class that saw COVID as their ticket to power and
• 30:13
  Speaker 18: they screwed it up royally and they don't want to
• 30:16
  Speaker 18: be called to account for it.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Andrew, well, you know it, James, for Victoria, for Melbourne
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: to have gone into his third lockdown with no deaths
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: around the country, and for sixty six deaths who have
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: occurred in May sixty one the month before, and nothing
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: crickets tells you that we made a terrible, terrible, ghastly
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: mistake back then and no one's been held to account.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: James Murrow, thank you so much for your time, really
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. After the break, I talked to the ex
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: soldier finding the Australian War memorials plan to include so
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: called wars with Aborigines fake history.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: He says, our Australian.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: War Memorial in Canberra it was created in law to
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: honor servicemen and servicewomen who died in war for the
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: country for Australia. But in two years time the War
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Memorial will include new exhibits to commemorate Aborigines who died.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: What it claims were frontier wars against whites, against farmers,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: settler's colonial troops. As the director of the War Memorial
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: has put it, it is the Memorial's intention to expand
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: on the depiction and presentation of the violence committed against
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Aboriginal torres rate under people through an inclusive presentation of
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: frontier conflicts now. The War Memorial made this decision immediately
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: after SPS showed a three part series by activist filmmaker
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Rachel Perkins four years ago, series hailed by the left
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: media claiming one hundred thousand people that died in the
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: so called frontier wars here in the eighteen twenties.
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: There was a war.
• 32:03
  Speaker 19: It was a small war, but it was part of
• 32:06
  Speaker 19: a much greater war that lasted just over one hundred years.
• 32:11
  Speaker 19: But you wouldn't know it because there's no memorials here,
• 32:14
  Speaker 19: and no memorials to the tens of thousands of Australians
• 32:17
  Speaker 19: who lost their lives in the first wars. The nation
• 32:21
  Speaker 19: is silent on the matter.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Of course, I've been silent. What's the evidence of these
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: wars and all those deaths one hundred thousand actually happened.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Peter O'Brien is an author and a former serviceman who
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: has campaigned against what the Memorial is doing, and he's
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: gathered eleven thousand signatures so far supporting him. He's written
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: why the War Memorial is wrong and why it's acting
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: against his own charter by doing this. He's done that
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: in Quadred online. Have a look it up. Great peace,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: and he joined me earlier, Peter O'Brien, thank you so
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: much for joining me. What is wrong with this idea? Well,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: let's for a start, does it actually comply with the
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: law that sets up the War Memorial?
• 33:07
  Speaker 20: Well, thank you, Andrew. My belief is that it doesn't.
• 33:10
  Speaker 20: I think that it's operating against its charter as laid
• 33:13
  Speaker 20: out in the Act, and I have sought legal advice
• 33:16
  Speaker 20: with a view to possibly a court challenge. Having said that,
• 33:20
  Speaker 20: I know that the War Memorial Board have also received
• 33:25
  Speaker 20: some legal advice which are keeping close to their chest.
• 33:28
  Speaker 20: So I suspect that their advice is not fully unequivocal.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Now, was there, in fact what can be fairly called
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: a frontier war or wars?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Plural?
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Filmmaker Rachel Perkins, the average of activist claims there were
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: in not just that that claims that one hundred thousand
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: people died in them, which is a surprise to me.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: So frontier wars were they that or were they something else?
• 33:56
  Speaker 20: No, the whole idea of the frontier wars, which they
• 34:00
  Speaker 20: put across as a sort of co coordinated effort over
• 34:02
  Speaker 20: many years in which one hundred thousand people died, is
• 34:05
  Speaker 20: just ludicrous.
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: That did not happen.
• 34:08
  Speaker 20: Certainly, there was conflict in the frontier. There were skirmishes,
• 34:12
  Speaker 20: and there were atrocities on a small scale, but the
• 34:15
  Speaker 20: overall and the reason why they are pushing this line
• 34:19
  Speaker 20: is to try to embed the idea that Australia was
• 34:21
  Speaker 20: invaded rather than settled. And although there were skirmishes and conflict,
• 34:27
  Speaker 20: the vast majority of the continent was settled. The Aboriginal
• 34:31
  Speaker 20: people accepted what was happening. They came in and they
• 34:35
  Speaker 20: joined in with what was happening. They were able to
• 34:37
  Speaker 20: see the benefits from it. So, no, there were no
• 34:40
  Speaker 20: frontier wars that we would consider in the modern context
• 34:43
  Speaker 20: of a war.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Well, how would you describe them.
• 34:48
  Speaker 20: Well, wherever in the early days, and let's say in
• 34:51
  Speaker 20: the first half of the nineteenth century where there were conflict,
• 34:56
  Speaker 20: that was what we would call a police action or
• 34:58
  Speaker 20: aim of the civil power the military were exercising, or
• 35:02
  Speaker 20: a function which is an eligitimate function of the defense
• 35:05
  Speaker 20: force called aid to the civil power, and that is
• 35:08
  Speaker 20: not war.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I would have thought too that some of the things
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: that have been dressed up as wars were like raids
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: by some Aboriginal people for food or something, reprises by farmers.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Hardly war. I mean regrettable theft on one side and
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: revenge on the other. Self defense what everyone to call it.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: But war seemed to be right over the top.
• 35:35
  Speaker 20: Yes, that's true. There were acts of brigandage on the
• 35:39
  Speaker 20: part of Aborigines. Often Oftentimes the Aboriginal people accepted the
• 35:43
  Speaker 20: fact that there were settlers nearby, and they took advantage
• 35:47
  Speaker 20: of that. They were given food and looked after, they
• 35:51
  Speaker 20: were given jobs. But every now and again the temptation
• 35:55
  Speaker 20: would overcome them and there would be a spearing of
• 35:57
  Speaker 20: a sheep, for example, which the settlers often dealt with
• 36:01
  Speaker 20: summarily and harshly and illegally in some cases. But they
• 36:06
  Speaker 20: were just isolated incidents. There was no coordination of the
• 36:10
  Speaker 20: sort that we would expect of a war. The Aboriginal
• 36:13
  Speaker 20: people did not have some kind of command structure. They
• 36:16
  Speaker 20: weren't in uniform, they had no discipline. It was just
• 36:20
  Speaker 20: a random series of unfortunate events.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: What's been the War Memorial's defense to doing.
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: This, Well, I don't know what.
• 36:33
  Speaker 20: The defense is. They just they seem to have this
• 36:35
  Speaker 20: idea that what happened in the Frontier is part of
• 36:39
  Speaker 20: our military history, which it is not, and therefore, if
• 36:43
  Speaker 20: it's part of our military history, it should be covered
• 36:45
  Speaker 20: by the Australian War Memorial. The bottom line is, if
• 36:48
  Speaker 20: there were one hundred thousand casualties, that's a scale that
• 36:54
  Speaker 20: equates to the war the World Wars, and that equates
• 36:58
  Speaker 20: roughly to the number of US Radians who've died on
• 37:01
  Speaker 20: active service since the since federation. So they what they're
• 37:05
  Speaker 20: trying to do is to say, look at the scale
• 37:07
  Speaker 20: of this war. If we're going to have the warm Memorial,
• 37:12
  Speaker 20: then it must include the Aboriginal Frontier wars. And that
• 37:16
  Speaker 20: is an absolute sacrilege because it just undermines and devalues,
• 37:21
  Speaker 20: trivializes the sacrifice that over one hundred thousand Australian men
• 37:26
  Speaker 20: and women have made.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: If it's not one hundred thousand, what do you think
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 37:32
  Speaker 20: Well, the most authoritative source for Aboriginal deaths is the
• 37:36
  Speaker 20: University of Newcastle Massacre Map that was set up under
• 37:40
  Speaker 20: the late professor Lendel Ryan. Now, hundreds of researchers spent
• 37:45
  Speaker 20: thousands of research hours, coming through all the records, all
• 37:49
  Speaker 20: the newspapers, all the diaries and so on, and they
• 37:52
  Speaker 20: came up with the figure of eleven thousand deaths. Researchers
• 37:57
  Speaker 20: such as Keith win Shuttle, Michael Connor, myself Karje have
• 38:01
  Speaker 20: been through various entries in that and we believe that
• 38:04
  Speaker 20: that figure is exaggerated by a fair amount. But nonetheless,
• 38:08
  Speaker 20: if we accept that was in that ballpark, that raises
• 38:12
  Speaker 20: the question, how did these researchers miss ninety thousand deaths?
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: It's just not believable, and in fact, the Little Rhyan's
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: claims have been heavily criticized, as you suggest, exaggerated as well.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: If people want to join you in resisting this attempt
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: to turn history on its head and feed the guilt
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: and shame complex, what should they do?
• 38:44
  Speaker 20: Well, the first thing they can do is sign my petition.
• 38:46
  Speaker 20: I started a petition. It now has over eleven thousand
• 38:50
  Speaker 20: signatures and every signature helps. Now that a petition isn't
• 38:53
  Speaker 20: going to change the minds of these unelected bureaucrats they
• 38:57
  Speaker 20: are unaccountable, but will help the petition is that change
• 39:03
  Speaker 20: at all, and you just have to look for hands
• 39:05
  Speaker 20: off the Australian War Memorial and add your name to it.
• 39:09
  Speaker 20: But I'm asking for more than that. I'm asking for
• 39:11
  Speaker 20: people to get emotionally involved in it as well, and
• 39:15
  Speaker 20: to spread the message as far as they possibly can.
• 39:18
  Speaker 20: That's why it would be good if people could read
• 39:20
  Speaker 20: my article and understand all the issues that this comes
• 39:25
  Speaker 20: down to. Last night you interviewed Gary Johns about the
• 39:29
  Speaker 20: new book Apartheid Australia. I'm a contributor to that book,
• 39:33
  Speaker 20: and that book is not just a series of essays.
• 39:35
  Speaker 20: It's a call to arms because we need to stop
• 39:38
  Speaker 20: this creeping aboriginalization of all aspects of our society, and
• 39:43
  Speaker 20: the War Memorial is merely one of them. People need
• 39:45
  Speaker 20: to become exercised about it and we need to make
• 39:48
  Speaker 20: it a political issue. So I'm also asking people to
• 39:51
  Speaker 20: talk to their local member and every other avenue that
• 39:54
  Speaker 20: they can think of to raise public awareness.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Peter O'Brien, thank you so much for your time.
• 40:00
  Speaker 20: Thank you very much, Andrew, do.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: You know this strain Electric Commission is already onto this bandwagon.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: These things go away, don't they. They picked the next court.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: This is the next course. So you recall that a
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago the Electoral Commission renamed the seat
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: of Franklin in se Tasmania after what it called the
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: aboriginal warrior Tongue Longita, and it actually has this in
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the as the reason for it. Tongue Longita's leadership during
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: the Black War. So now it's a war his role
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: in defending country. So he wasn't abandoned. He was defending
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: country and it's enduring significance since Tasmanian history. Few people
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: actually know of him, provide strong grounds for recognizing his
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: contribution through the naming of an electorate.
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  Speaker 1: It's on.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: It's a war against any pride in this country, and
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: it's a war against history. After the break, Bombshell claims
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: that China is sending your own weapons to fight the
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: US quickly, a very disturbing development in the war in Iran.
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  Speaker 2: A Roighteous investigation says China is smuggling more weapons to
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  Speaker 2: reportedly include up to four hundred shoulder fired missiles including
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the q W twelve and the advanced FN sixteen, which
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: means Iran would be able to not just shoot down
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: planes and helicopters, that even low flying missiles. Donald Trump says,
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  Speaker 2: hang on, Chinese president told me you wouldn't be arming Iran.
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  Speaker 1: He told me very strongly he wouldn't point take.
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  Speaker 19: That.
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  Speaker 1: He knows I'd be quite disappointed now.
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  Speaker 2: To be fair, China and Pakistan both officially denied this story,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: to which you might say they would, wouldn't they. Meanwhile,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: the invasion continues. By that, I mean the invasion of
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Britain of illegal immigrants taking boats from France with the
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: help of women, in this case from British charity, while
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: French soldiers on the French coast just stand on the
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: beach and watch them sail away.
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  Speaker 6: Why have you allowed the migrants into the water. Why
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  Speaker 6: haven't you stopped them?
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  Speaker 9: Born are order?
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  Speaker 18: Yeah, Tom, your orders to let them go?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: That man asking the questions of the French police was
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: actually Chris Philp the Conservatives. The UK Conservatives Shadow Home
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Secretary joining me from London is star gb host Patrick
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Christis Patrick. Always great to see you. Those are extraordinary
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  Speaker 2: scenes and I know you've seen much like you've reported.
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  Speaker 2: I think we've run some of your film from the
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: French coast just you know that that way to Britain boys,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: And it's just as stupid as watching your supposed border
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: force yesterday acting like a taxi service for both people
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: that had picked up in the English Channel.
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  Speaker 1: What is going on? Well?
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  Speaker 21: In the two days, a French naval ship has fired
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  Speaker 21: warning shots at a democratically elected British politician in the channel,
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  Speaker 21: a new illegal up routers opened up, setting off seventy
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  Speaker 21: miles further south in France than ever before, sixteen hundred
• 43:13
  Speaker 21: illegals across in the last week, and now the French
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  Speaker 21: police is saying that they're under orders not to stop
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  Speaker 21: the boast, despite British taxpayers giving them one billion pounds
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  Speaker 21: worth of our money to actually stop them. You also
• 43:24
  Speaker 21: saw those charity workers there. They seem to almost all
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  Speaker 21: be women, which I think is the definition of civiicidal empathy,
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  Speaker 21: helping to feed, clothe and wave off these illegal men.
• 43:34
  Speaker 21: And of course, sadly we keep seeing horrific cases in
• 43:36
  Speaker 21: Britain of what some of them do when.
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  Speaker 8: They get here.
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  Speaker 21: And I often wonder how these charity workers feel when
• 43:41
  Speaker 21: they read those news stories. But these are llegal migrants
• 43:45
  Speaker 21: in the human traffickers. They're not stupid. They know that
• 43:48
  Speaker 21: there is any prime minister. They know that he's soft.
• 43:50
  Speaker 21: They know that he might actually let them work without
• 43:53
  Speaker 21: them having been granted asylum yet. And I think we're
• 43:56
  Speaker 21: going to go on now, aren't we, and talk a
• 43:58
  Speaker 21: little bit about the type of people who are actually
• 44:00
  Speaker 21: coming to Britain illegally and how much of a warning
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  Speaker 21: that should be to everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yes, indeed, I mean I do wonder a bit.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: You know, you said suicidal empathy. Here is one of
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: those people that are coming over in boats. Both dup Ding,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: who speaks no English, came illegally from Sudan where he
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: lift his wife and child. So clearly is not fleeing
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: some sort of you know, for his life. What has
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: he been up to in his new home in Britain.
• 44:30
  Speaker 21: Oh, absolutely beggars belief. He was denied asylum three times.
• 44:34
  Speaker 21: He was given a house, food money, we paid for
• 44:36
  Speaker 21: his legal aid. He then went into a school with
• 44:39
  Speaker 21: a knife, a hammer, a hatchet and half of jerry
• 44:42
  Speaker 21: cansworth of petrol, having already tried to get into another
• 44:45
  Speaker 21: school now thankfully it was the school holidays. But I mean, look, realistically,
• 44:50
  Speaker 21: he won't have known that, Willie. And he said he
• 44:53
  Speaker 21: just wanted attention because the Home Office wasn't helping him enough.
• 44:57
  Speaker 21: I mean, that's not the way you get attend to,
• 44:58
  Speaker 21: suppause it is the way you get to But it's
• 45:00
  Speaker 21: not really the kind of thing that we do here,
• 45:02
  Speaker 21: is it. I mean, this could have been an absolute massacre.
• 45:05
  Speaker 21: It doesn't bear thinking about, does it. What could have
• 45:07
  Speaker 21: happened there? He said that, oh, I just wanted to
• 45:10
  Speaker 21: be allowed to work. Well, I suppose he had a
• 45:12
  Speaker 21: knife with him, so maybe he is a surgeon, he
• 45:15
  Speaker 21: had a hammer with him, maybe he's an engineer. But
• 45:17
  Speaker 21: he was only sentenced to two years in prison for that.
• 45:22
  Speaker 21: But because he's been held on remand until now, he
• 45:25
  Speaker 21: could be out next week. And in terms of the response, nothing,
• 45:29
  Speaker 21: we're almost definitely not going to deport him. I'm sorry,
• 45:33
  Speaker 21: but you have to ask yourself, what on earth is
• 45:35
  Speaker 21: going on here?
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I find that absolute extraordinary.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: So when I thought when you said they're going to
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: let him out any day now, I thought you meant
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: out to Sudan. But stupid me, stupid me out in Britain.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Of course, Look you mentioned you've got this new prominent
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Sandy Burne, and you said it is soft and soft
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: and soft. But listen, he must read the polls as well.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Any sign that he change anything here at least you know,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: in term for the next selection.
• 46:04
  Speaker 21: What's happening at the moment is because Kirs Starmer was
• 46:06
  Speaker 21: such an awful communicator and a very very kind of
• 46:10
  Speaker 21: cold person, Andy Burnham has coming and he is just
• 46:13
  Speaker 21: more human. So the natural initial human response to Andy
• 46:17
  Speaker 21: Burnham is to go, well, I quite like this guy,
• 46:19
  Speaker 21: or I at least prefer him to the one we
• 46:21
  Speaker 21: had before.
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: So there is a little bit of a bounce in
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: the polls.
• 46:24
  Speaker 21: But the big problem for Andy Burnham is he's not
• 46:26
  Speaker 21: confronting legal or illegal immigration, and the only noises he's
• 46:29
  Speaker 21: making is that he's going to be softer on that.
• 46:32
  Speaker 21: If the numbers keep crossing the channel in the way
• 46:34
  Speaker 21: that they are and we keep having crimes like we've
• 46:36
  Speaker 21: had as a result of that, at some point he's
• 46:38
  Speaker 21: going to have to tell us what he feels about it,
• 46:40
  Speaker 21: and I suspect that he feels that actually it's not
• 46:43
  Speaker 21: that big a deal. The other problem for Andy Burnham
• 46:46
  Speaker 21: is he's coming out with some nice policies at the moment. Look,
• 46:49
  Speaker 21: we need to do more for adult social care, we
• 46:51
  Speaker 21: need to do more for elderly people when they're in
• 46:53
  Speaker 21: their dotage you've got dementia and things. Absolutely, of course
• 46:56
  Speaker 21: we do, but he's not yet answering the questions about
• 46:59
  Speaker 21: how on earth we're going to pay for any of
• 47:01
  Speaker 21: this stuff. For example, we've got too many people going
• 47:04
  Speaker 21: to university in Britain. We need more people to get
• 47:06
  Speaker 21: practical trades. He said that he's going to encourage people
• 47:09
  Speaker 21: to do that. We found out that the way he's
• 47:11
  Speaker 21: going to encourage people to do that is if you
• 47:13
  Speaker 21: are already on benefits as a family and you're telling
• 47:17
  Speaker 21: your child not to go out to work because your
• 47:19
  Speaker 21: family would lose benefits, He's going to give you four
• 47:21
  Speaker 21: and a half thousand.
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: Pounds to tell your child to get off their backside
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: to go to work. Well, I'm sorry, but I.
• 47:27
  Speaker 21: Don't really want to have to pay for that when,
• 47:29
  Speaker 21: you know, when I just wanted to go out and
• 47:31
  Speaker 21: work myself. So, you know, we are bounce in the polls,
• 47:34
  Speaker 21: but that might dip when the cold hard reality of
• 47:36
  Speaker 21: who's paying for everything finally kicks in.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: It's so strange, Patrick, I mean we've seen, you know,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: the rise of the hard lift in America. Now even
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: in New York where the me and m danmi is
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Mandani is a socialist, it's just unveiled the first government
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: owned shop supermarkets.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Can you believe it?
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Sitting government prices? In Australia you've got the Greens and
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: the governing party is again in this Texas spinned stuff,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: no idea of how to earn it. What on earth
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: has happened with? You know, your guy goes up and
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: the first thing he does is trash. Margaret Thatcher, who
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: at least put Britain Beck on his economic feet.
• 48:19
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean he said something like, you know, I
• 48:21
  Speaker 21: wanted to take us back to the nineteen seventies. Well,
• 48:23
  Speaker 21: he forgets the fact that we had rolling electricity blackouts
• 48:26
  Speaker 21: in the nineteen seventies. We seem to have, you know,
• 48:30
  Speaker 21: quite a lot of negativity here, actually a huge economic
• 48:34
  Speaker 21: decline as well. I think grave diggers went on strike
• 48:37
  Speaker 21: at one point as well, so bodies were piling up.
• 48:39
  Speaker 21: So you know, look, it's it's not the kind of
• 48:43
  Speaker 21: housey in days that many people would have been thinking
• 48:44
  Speaker 21: about but but but look, I mean we're going to
• 48:47
  Speaker 21: have a big start choice to make in this country.
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: You know, are we actually seriously a socialist country?
• 48:51
  Speaker 21: And if he wants to do any of this stuff,
• 48:52
  Speaker 21: eventually he's going to have to have a general election
• 48:54
  Speaker 21: because you cannot keep announcing things spending loads of other
• 48:57
  Speaker 21: people's money. We were getting rid of our only space telescope.
• 49:00
  Speaker 21: Our space telescope cost two point eight million quit a
• 49:03
  Speaker 21: year to run. We've spent five on the legal immigration.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Well, honestly, Patrick, we've forgotten how socialism does not work.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Patrick. Christie's coming up next, Sherry Maxon.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: But for me, it's good night.